Samsung Washer SPIDER ARM Replacement
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- Welcome! We will be replacing a Samsung Washer spider arm in this video. Starting off with some symptoms, and then digging into the heart of the machine. The machine is 14 years old and getting it's second spider arm. On average the part lasted 7 years before needing replacing. It seems like a huge task, but if you go one step at a time it is very doable. No special tools needed. Get some basic tools together and let's get this DONE!
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Thank you so much for this video! I was gifted this washer and for years it has no issues. It suddenly had an issue where it no longer turned. I looked into buying new ones and got sticker shock.
I watched your video and felt confident I could do it. I bought the part on Amazon for $86 vs buying a new washer. You’re amazing! Thank you 🙏🙏
Great to hear you got it repaired! Saving that new washer money is awesome. Nice Job!
I would recommend painting the spider arm. If you replace the bearings, it will help it last longer
Not a bad idea! Maybe powder coat. I planned on changing the bearing and seal, but decided used oem might be a better option. Thanks!
Love your style, thank you for being the perfect assist for me to replace mine. IMO, this is on the high end of moderate difficulty for a standard DIY'er. I really think your breakdown helped some find the confidence to tackle this. I can say you certainly cut my reassemble time in half.
Keep up the good work brother. You're helping some hard working folks save some $.
Thanks for the great comment! Good to hear this video is helping save money, and happy to assist!
Holy crap! I've got an ancient Speed Queen, and have replaced nearly every part on there a few times over. A LOT simpler. Great job!
Great machine! The spider arm is one of the toughest parts to replace on this machine, but gotta go it. Thanks!
Truly good work with showing all steps from start to finish.
Plus very good audio and video footage 👍
Keep them coming!
Thanks for the nice comment, looking forward to some more broken things.
This video is outstanding! Literally step by step. Thank you!!
Hope it helps! Thank you
True master...if the replaced parts are also acceptable for the price, then the car will "turn" 21 years more than sure...those aluminum arms (the tripod) cannot be protected with any special paint, protective varnish or something else that would offer a longer lifespan?... today, I gave my old washing machine (Whirpool) that had "turned" the honorable age of 18 years... the fault was in the control panel, an integrated circuit which is no longer manufactured and I couldn't find it at the "junk market" or online...thank you for the real lesson that you were kind enough to share with those who needed something like this...God bless may he give you good health and good luck in the future...my respect for you, Dan....P.S. May I copy this lesson on my old computer (from which I am writing now) with a C2D E5700 processor, 2G Ram and 160G HDD?
That Whirlpool machine served you well, what a trooper. Coating the arm sounds like a good idea, but I think when the coating starts peeling it could be a mess. Thanks for the blessings! P.S. Nice computer
Super video and truly usefull. Thanks
Thank you, really like hearing that it came in handy!
Omgosh what a job !
Thanks!
Thanks for showing that clean up. Just got a new machine and this convinced my wife to ditch the softener.
It was dirty! I quit the softener too, the clothes seem to feel the exact same. I think my wife might use some when doing sheets for the scent. Good choice!
The downy scent beads do a good job of adding that scent back without the garbage. @@CarlosPadillaCentex
Great job! Cultivating that evergreen content.. AND THAT'S how you save $$$ for fishing! I don't have a Samsung washer but the right person is gong to owe you big for this video!! Strong work!
Hey Stephan, thanks! I hope sharing this repair helps keep a few more washers running.
@@CarlosPadillaCentex No washer left behind! Hell of a rescue mission!🫡
Fantastic video! We just fixed our washer!
Happy to hear that! Hope you get a few more years out of it. Thanks for the comment!
I thought I was the only crazy son of a bi*ch to tackle this kind of diy stuff !
You must be a mechanic? Auto body tech here 💪 I'm pretty sure I have this same issue with my LG, different but close enough to where your instructions gave me confidence to do the job, thanks brother!
You right about that, use to do engine swaps and drive drifting machines. Auto body takes some skill, I’m pretty sure you will knock out the LG! Thanks!
@@CarlosPadillaCentex hey, thanks again! I rebuilt my wife's Buick Lacrosse transmission a couple years ago watching TH-cam, lol that was a first! I figured if some of them goons at repair shops can do then I have a pretty good chance 😅
Still running good 👍
Great video. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the comment, and happy to share!
Awesome video. I will be doing this in the near future hahaha. Thank you for recording all the details brother.
Thanks, glad it helps. When you do knock it out, I hope it goes really smooth and you save a lot of money!
Great job mate!
Thanks for watching, thanks mate!
super helpful and well done. i'll give it a crack and see if i can get a few more years out of it.thanks!
Thank you, I think the cleaning part took the longest. The rest is straight forward. Good Luck!
Thanks for sharing very detailed good video, I watch many times ❤❤❤
Hope you got the job done! Thank you
next time you have to take that door gasket spring off, use a terminal screwdriver in the loop to pull it off and use needle nose vice grips around that same loop to stretch the spring to get it back on. Much easier!
Sounds like a really good method. Might have to purchase that tool soon. I will keep that in mind. Thanks!
Good job👍
Thanks buddy, just sharing with youtube. Learned a lot from it.
Awesome video
Appreciate the comment!
I've been working on this myself, always nice to see a video of someone else going through the same thing! Thanks for posting. I was just wondering though - what's the purpose of adding dish soap to the seal and the bearing? Wouldn't that mess with the grease?
Soap on the seal is just for lube so the spindle doesn’t catch on the rubber. Soap on the bearing probably not the greatest idea, but I was thinking about how I had to hammer it out. A touch of WD-40 is a better idea. Thanks
Good job
Thanks, hope it helps
Great job!💪🏻 The only question… Honestly, how much time did the project take? Thank you.
Hi, Without shooting footage I would estimate 4-6 hours. Disassembly and assembly is very fast. It comes down to how easy the spider arm comes off and goes on, and the cleaning process. Thanks!
Mine just broke to other day, needs the Spider Arm as well. I put it up on Face book for FREE. I don't have the time to fix it. Going to the curb Monday...
Not a bad idea, the newer machines don’t suffer this issue.
Unreal video. Not fishing related but couldn't stop watching. You the man I know you talked about doing another video on wiring on your boat, could you show how to use a multimeter to check your wiring and fuses. I can't stand the videos that are on youtube.
Thanks buddy, I’ll try to hit on all aspects of the boat, especially wiring
Thank you for the video. I did change my and the shocks the problem is it won’t spin now. And it won’t calibrate.. any advice brotha?
Any error codes? Check the wiring to the motor and sensor, inspect the plugs in the back panel. Also the ground on the motor.
Wonder if you placed oven cleaner on it first for better clean up
That sludge was matted. A pressure washer would work really good.
Within the next year or so you'll be tearing this machine apart to replace the bearings, adding the dish soap maybe wasn't the best idea and when you showed the drum being placed back in to the tub you could see rusty water coming from the bearing
Very possible, I really hope it lasts a few more years. I’m almost at the point of getting a new set just for the extra cubic feet the new machines have.
@@CarlosPadillaCentex My grandmother was the same way about her LG washing machine it was bought in 2006 but it did everything she wanted, i had to change collapsed bearings and a slightly cracked spider earlier this year
Yep, save the detergent for the dishes. Should have packed the seal between the inner and outer lips with waterproof grease to lubricate it, I used a silicon grease when I changed the bearings and seal on mine, but I believe they usually recommend white grease. I would have changed the water seal and bearings anyway considering the amount of work stripping it down, but especially after getting penetrating oil on them because it thins the grease in the bearings.
hello where to get the parts
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You forgot to change the Balance ring!
Was going for the spider arm!
This seems to be a design flaw with these front loading machines, and the manufacturer doesn't want to fix. Maybe if the spider was made out of a heavy teflon it wouldn't fail like it does. I read that what can cause the spider to fail is a chemical reaction from laundry soap an fabric softner combined. Thanks for the video.!!!
Some think it’s chemical and some say it’s the different metals passing current like a car battery terminal post rotting. A stainless arm would work, but it would be very heavy and expensive. Composite materials have come a long way. Great comment
It is mainly oxygen concentration cell corrosion, also known as crevice corrosion, which occurs if the alloy spider gets coated with grime (bacteria, mould, detergent and fabric conditioner residue, dirt, grease, lint etc). This biofilm excludes oxygen, creating variations in oxygen concentration across the surface which creates a potential difference between locations with lower and higher oxygen concentrations, so currents flow and the lower oxygen locations become anodic and get eaten away. It doesn't require dissimilar metals.
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I think most washing machine manufacturers intentionally use aluminum for the spider arm as it corrodes over time from detergent in water, so that it breaks after several years of use and the customer buys a new washing machine if it's too expensive to repair. They could have used stainless steel which shouldn't add much to the manufacturing cost.
That could be the case. I looked at a few a new washers when the spider arm went bad. They were anywhere between $700 to $1,200 without a pedestal. Then the dryer wouldn’t match. The dryer has been through 4 elements, 2 belts, thermal fuses, thermostat, and burnt wires. It was an easy choice to go on and repair the washer. It was less than $100 and about 6 hours.
Stainless would most likely cost quite a bit more than aluminum and last forever, those two things affect their profits
I have a WF331ANR/XAS 02 washer so far only replaced the door lock I'll be saving this video in case
Great job on showing all the steps clearly teardown and putting it back together!
What did you use to get the spider arm bolts out, mine won’t budge
Hi, on 4 out of the 6 bolts the heads broke off. On 2 of them I had to grind the heads down to the threads. Put a flat tip screw driver or small pry bar between the drum and spider arm prying the drum out and spider arm up.
Great work. Given the stuff stuck to the back of that arm and drum, you are likely using way too much detergent, and fabric softener will make this issue even worse.
We use a lot of hot hard Texas water from the city. Something that did change is about 1 1/2 years ago we started using dreft detergent, softener, and scent beads for baby clothes. No clue if that had something to do with it. Good thing is the part is available and repairable. It’s probably a good thing the spider breaks, so the washer can get a good cleaning and bearing/seal inspection. Thanks
Fabric softener is basically adding an coating for fabric and it sticks to everything. It also creates a perfect environment for mold/mildew to fester in the machine. People figured it out decades ago and the product was in decline, but clever marketing and a new generation of people has caused it to come back in favor. It's like meet tenderizer, and while your stuff will feel softer, it impacts water absorption, so bath towels don't work as well. If used with workout clothes, it wrecks the special properties that help with wicking. Basically, it's evil stuff.
I would have replaced the seal and bearing while it was apart. The new spider arm spindle may not mate the same way, and replacing the stuff is cheap insurance. My dad would always say, "While it is in pieces, do the other stuff now to save having to do it all again later."
Nice Orange sludge
Something odd about the sludge is it didn’t really smell that bad. Looked like the inside of a sewer pipe though.
how much would you charge for a job like this ?
I don’t like to charge anyone, just sharing how I did it. Thanks!
what were all the parts/part numbers you bought?
Dc97-15491a spider arm with bolts, the bearings and seal I chose from amazon usually purchased together section, under the spider arm. Hope that helps
Mine is 10yrs old and still original. I never use bleach.
It’s still a debate what causes this. We use tide and fabric softener. Maybe a water softener would help some. Glad to hear you got a good machine!
My washing machine is 15 years old and the spider is original, but I had to change the bearings after 10 years because the bearing water seal leaked letting water in the inner bearing, seizing it up. After 10 years of use, the spider was as good as new and drum and tub in mine was gunge free and spotless, bar a few patches of hard limescale deposits from not descaling the machine often enough. I have very hard water here and I suspect the hard inflexible limescale deposit coating the rubber bearing seal might have been a factor for it wearing out after only 10 years.
I use powder detergent which has oxygen bleach in it for much of my washing and mostly use the 40°C wash and do the occasional 60°C+ wash to help clean the machine, despite using fabric conditioner. Descaling it at least once a year and leaving the door and draw open between washes so it dries out also helps keep the internals clean. Never used chlorine bleach, UK machines don't even have a dispenser for it. Oxygen bleach kills bacteria and mould and helps clean the machine as well as removing stains, probably best only used in light colours and white washes as it can noticeably fade darks.
According to the evidence whirlpool provided in the US class action lawsuits against them, the main cause of spider failure is crevice corrosion caused by a build up of biofilm in the machine typically as a result of cold washes, using fabric conditioner and liquid detergents, which provides a medium for bacteria and mould to grow in, which can also causes a bad smell,. Also excessive use of chlorine bleach which can cause pitting through the aluminium oxide surface layer, and I believe the chlorine ions can speed up crevice corrosion. Another contributory factor in their oldest machines was using an aluminium alloy with a higher amount of copper (gives better ductility), which resulted in intergranular corrosion.
Mines a model number WF405 and couldn’t find a spider unit to fit it….
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how much did the spider arm cost?
It’s not an original part. It was on Amazon for $86 with 6 bolts and O ring.
How many hours to do this job? Pretty sure my washer needs a spider arm. I hate to buy a new one as the machines today are garbage.
It was 8 hours total including moving the washer and dryer out of the room, clean, and reinstall. Without shooting footage and having tools ready I would estimate 3 to 5 hours👍🏽
Where did you get the parts
Blutoget DC97-15491A Washer Flange Shaft Assembly with 6 Packs of DC60-40137A Spider Hex Bolt - Fit for Samsung Washing Machine flange shaft assembly - Replaces 2077008 AP4458785 PS4220876 EAP4220876
AMAZON
@@CarlosPadillaCentex MODEL: WF42H5600AP/A2
S/N: 0BZU5AEF804964N this my model number
Why was there so much dirt and debris in there?
The filter was full of corrosion from the spider arm, and some pebbles that were in my pants pockets. They fall into the tub drain when the washer is draining. The coating on the drum is dirt from clothes mixed with water and becomes matted up between the drum and tub.
@@CarlosPadillaCentex You got some dirty clothes, my man. Do you ride? Quad, dirt bike, etc?
Most of it is probably saw dust and grass clippings. No cool toys like that yet
Not changing the bearings is a big mistake
Probably, I really didn’t want to risk a new leak or a new bearing fitting too loose or tight.
Any tips on finding the right spider arm? I need to do this on a Samsung WF45R6300AW but can’t seem to find the right spider arm for my model.
Mine crapped out in less than 3 years from brand new, what a POS!!!
Hope you get it up and running, new ones are getting very expensive
Very good job❤
Appreciate it! Have a great weekend