I never understood why the fact that an obviously really shaken husband not seing the stab wounds could become a proof of guilt. Plus he had many alibi witnesses… shameful
@@nightwithout-stars1951 sorry, English is not my first language. I guess what I really meant was, I couldn’t wrap my mind around the fact that the prosecutor….
@sue ack Stevie Wonder could have seen that she DID murder her mother. I looked at the crime scene pictures and coupled with the drugs in her mother's blood..... She drugged her mum, kicked the railings until they broke then kept carers from checking on her mum to ensure there would be no chance of resuscitation. She's a nutso murderer.
Really makes you think about just how many other injustices are committed by sloppy police/detective work and blatant malpractice on the part of a DA that go unresolved. Innocent individuals sitting in prison or worse (death row)and the chances of them ever getting their cases overturned or even just have an opportunity to argue their case again in front of a judge is miniscule at best. Very sad and scary.
Pam wasn't satisfied that Betsy was gone she just had to ruin a family and frame a grieving husband! What a botched, sad, disturbing case. I hope Russ gets justice but nothing can take back the time he spent defending himself.
I know a woman just like her in Arvada. Its all about money. The woman I know hasn't killed anyone, but that's because she found neither of her parents had any money.
All involved in the illegal conviction of Russ Faria should be charged federally with corruption. The judge, prosecutors and police took the law into their own hands, thus denying a fair trial to Russ. His stepdaughters were also affected as they were denied the insurance money that was robbed from them by the courts. It also ruined their relationships with Russ when they all needed one another the most. Due to the ineptness of this mess they referred to as the (in)justice system, one and possibly two more people lost their lives by the last person they were known to be seen with. All involved should lose their pensions and abilities to to continue in their career fields. Put them in the federal prisons for life, which means no parole. Their corruption led to the proven death of another victim.
Alison is my favorite guest on true crime daily podcast - I would love to have her as a permanent! Such good, strong opinions and I love the sound of her voice it’s so distinctive.
Imagine these two after a bad guy in a court room. We might have some thinking, expanding those minds. Hell we might even find some justice in a system that is to be tipping side ways more and more.
This is what baffles me about our legal system, how can the police and DA get this SO WRONG! 3 yrs of a mans life! 3 yrs!! Why this man isn’t compensated for these 3 yrs, 100% of his cost! This freaks me out even though I’ve not even had a speeding ticket! So many judges aren’t qualified to do the job!
I am so fed up of hearing of the Corrupt System of convicting the wrong Person, with Police turning a blind eye to the Real Alibis and taking only their own accounts of timelines etc etc.
I love how Allison thinks of how lucky she is to be on the road with her son while being able to participate as a guest on the show too. Sooo optimistic, and agree with her line of thinking. Which I imagine is difficult when you are a criminal defense attorney like she is.
Im sorry but I disagree with Alison... when people are convicted and do what this guy did ... you should lose all privacy rights and that phone should be unlocked asap
I think it should be on a case by case basis. This case definitely deserves a search warrant, of that there is no doubt, but we have to have a balance. As for our info being sold..I don't think our info should be mined and sold, apparently none of the apps are free because we are paying by having our personal information stolen.
The problem is that that's a slippery slope. If we could have it both ways I'd be so, so down. But we can't. Government overreach is already an enormous problem in this country.
I generally scoff at conspiracy theories, but the Pam Huff case is just disgusting and shows that they do happen. The fact that the Prosecutor was ACTIVELY involved in coaching Pam on exactly what to say, what to do with the money to make her look good, manufacturered evidence, AND ignored all the alibi witnesses is just disgusting. There really should be consequences to Prosecutors who KNOWINGLY lie and withhold evidence to wrongfully convict people.
I remember after Russ was exonerated, Betsys mother still said on the news that she thought he was guilty ... I wonder if she has retracted any of that now ?
Pam Hupp has proven she will do or say absolutely anything to get what she wants- hopefully justice prevails and she’s never able to hurt anyone else. I think she’s psychotic enough to go after her own family (research her mother’s suspicious death). She needs to be watched closely, even inside prison.
Keith Morrison did a 6-7 part podcast on Pam. Quite the story-this woman is quite a piece of work! He’s only done a podcast like that with one other subject-Lori Vallow.
In the very first show I watched on the guy convicted, it was so obvious she was guilty and the detective was incredibly stupid when telling her what to say. I was incredulous!
Russ had an alibi. 3 of his friends. And they cops completely ignored them. They were incenced that tge cops thought all three would lie for him. The prosecution also showed questionable behaviour when trying to convince hup to put the insurance money in the kids name bf the trial. Wrong on sooo many levels
Pam Hupp story IS twisted and she's twisted. Is such a true statement! Btw loving how cute the casual look with a ponytail is on you Anna Garcia. Beautiful!! Thanks for giving us another great video.
She’s been convicted of murdering Mr Gumpenberger (she did that to reframe the husband of Betsy). Now they must have found enough evidence to finally charge her with Betsy’s murder. Hupp was the last person to see Betsy alive, beneficiary of her Betsy’s insurance and the main witness used to convict Russell. I’m hoping charges for murdering her own mother (who also died very suspiciously) next. Finally some justice is coming down on this serial killer!
As far as the first case, the only thing I have to say is...who needs enemies when you have friends like Pam Hupp? I hope she rots behind bars. I feel bad for the victim's husband. Thank God the truth finally came out
I totally think it's a crime to intentionally ignore or conceal evidence.... especially if it's exculpatory to the defendant! Granted I have ZERO education in the law, I'm saying from a decidedly logical perspective - this makes sense and the officials involved should MOST CERTAINLY be penalized accordingly!! If an everyday citizen withheld critical information in a murder case, there would some pretty serious consequences 100%
I'm happy to hear the new prosecutor following the Russ Faria trial saying that he/they are going to investigate the possibility of criminal acts on the part of the police. I hope he's not just blowing smoke about that. But, IMHO, he/they also need to include in that investigation the judge and the prosecuting attorney.
I wonder if Pam told Betsy that Russ was cheating & if SHE got the life insurance, it could go to the daughter (because Russ might spend it on the girlfriend)... If Betsy wasn't in her right mind with depression/pain meds, it's possible to trick her into anything
Hi Ana! I just wanted to say I love this show. The discussion-like way it is is more real and less stylized/gossipy than other shows. I appreciate the lawyer’s input too. ❤️
I live about an hour from Cayce, SC. I remember the Amber Alert coming through my phone when Faye went missing. Saw signs on I-20 with information. I remember the fevered speculation and search for her. I've got a 4 year old and I wouldn't let her out of my sight, going so far as to check on her in the middle of the night thinking some lunatic is in my area snatching children from their yards.
What about charges for the police investigators?? They put an innocent man in prison and nothing happens to them??? Not fair...they make and break rules? Why??
Please tell me he sued the shit out of the Police Department, District Attorney Office and the city. Any updates on Russ' family? Do they talk to him? What about his children? Would like to know if they stood behind him the whole time and if not, how do they feel now?
This was such a great episode. Always enjoy hearing Alison’s insight. I’m dying to know how the case turns out with the investigation surrounding Russ Faria’s wrongful conviction. Keep up the great work! 👍
In the series with Renee, Pam was drying money from a woman she befriended and died in Florida and was in a fat hurry to move back to Missouri. What happened to that woman?
The prosecutor in Russ’s case and any prosecutor who behaves in this way should be charged, convicted and get LIFE in prison for this criminal nonsense. This is outrageous and has the potential to make Americans distrust even more, the justice system. I can’t restate enough, this is OUTRAGEOUS. The criminals are operating within the “justice” system.
Fly high, sweet Faye. 🙏 As a South Carolinian, I remember this case well. Now we need justice for Harlee Lewis. Harlee’s mom was arrested for killing her after she claimed someone assaulted her and abducted Harlee.
Normally, the police couldn't care less if a person is innocent. They do the least amount of work possible and if someone is an easy target, then that's who they go for. It happens over and over again. That's reality.
Chandler Police believing Alex Coxx's lies makes me never want to go to Chandler Az. Especially after Charles Vallow even asked police for help that Lori was going to kill him. Sure diff police but computers would have death threats I hope. Look at all who died cuz of Chandler dum cops!
Did Betsy actually sign over that life insurance policy? I heard that Pam had some lady at a library sign a paper - acting as a witness to Betsy signing the new paperwork - and the lady didn't really pay attention to what she was signing. Why would the police look into the sudden change of beneficiary when they aren't even looking at Pam at all. Even later on, there's nothing that has said that Betsy does in fact change the paperwork. Like mentioned, why the hell would Betsy do that? Why not to the girls themselves or someone in her immediate family if she and Russ where having problems? I do believe Pam killed her own mother, of course the poor guy she picked up and framed, and absolutely Betsy!
Pam's behavior speaks volumes. My daughter died the same time as Betsy. My daughter was terminally ill also. Pam and my ex son in law could be buddies. Murderers have their own rationale.
It's called CONFIRMATION BIAS. These officers had this in the case agains Russ. They could not see past his "guilt" and therefore they missed all the red flags and signs of Pam's guilt.
Ana comes through every week “menstrual pads on her neck” 😭😂 i do believe when explaining extremely dark and difficult stories that are a reality every day and can happen to anyone is important.
This lady is one of my faves on your channel along with Dr Judy Ho. These 3 ladies, Dr Judy, Alison and Ana are intelligent, beautiful AND humble which is a rare combination. God bless and love to you Ana and Alison from Kerry in the UK ❤
This woman is pure evil. I’m the caregiver for my mentally handicapped Aunt. She’s so sweet and innocent… so Pam tricking this man and then killing him , really breaks my heart. How she fooled the police with all this is unbelievable! I’m so thankful Russ is out and is able to have a chance at a good life. I truly believe Pam killed her mother and Betsy. Great work Ladies!!!!
I like this lady guest you have on ur show this episode! I like her a LOT! I really enjoy her personality & how she doesn't hesitate to engage in conversation. Please keep having her come back on the show & anyone else like her! :)
You two agree to disagree so darn gracefully.Ana I tip my hat off for going up against Allison who KNOWS THE LAW, lol. I have been your fan since you were knocking on doors. Both of you are so smart and beautiful and keep it real, and that’s why we all continue to come back!
All Pam had to do was tell Betsy she could avoid inheritance tax (real or imaginary) by making her the beneficiary for the daughters. Quite simple this has seen and carried out as a manipulation tactic, a good one. As well if Betsy was on painkillers of chemotherapy and thought she was signing something else that too is possible.
Alison, thank you so much for openly saying that PH is a strange woman. You sound like an authentic human! These days one must assign a dozen diagnoses to somebody, and describe everything about them as neutral as possible. FFS. You're a breath of fresh air.
I live in St Louis, one second into this case my husband and I said, ooo that lady is shady! She, indeed, was. Her daughter is on tik tok. It's such a sad story. The Cops turned her against Russ and now she tells her story. She's one of the best creators on tik tok. Thankful they found her guilty and Russ is free.
I agree with ana on the phone topic🤦 like if my family member is dead and I know who it is, I wanna know if that person has any more evidence on their phone like a bragging text about whether they did it or not
Just because a document bare’s a person’s true signature, do not for one minute believe that cannot be forged. It is as easy as using a glass coffee table and shining a flashlight up through a paper that bears the signature. There ya go! Exact and perfect tracing. I know because I watched someone demonstrate it once and I was surprised how effortless it was.
I never understood why the fact that an obviously really shaken husband not seing the stab wounds could become a proof of guilt. Plus he had many alibi witnesses… shameful
@Annece, the prosecutor accused his alibi witnesses of helping him cover up the crime, even though she had no proof of a conspiracy.
@@nightwithout-stars1951 sorry, English is not my first language. I guess what I really meant was, I couldn’t wrap my mind around the fact that the prosecutor….
I still believe Pam killed her mother - they should look into that.
She basically confessed to it before she even did it
I do too, that railing was altered.
𝙵𝚊𝚌𝚝𝚜!
@sue ack Stevie Wonder could have seen that she DID murder her mother. I looked at the crime scene pictures and coupled with the drugs in her mother's blood..... She drugged her mum, kicked the railings until they broke then kept carers from checking on her mum to ensure there would be no chance of resuscitation. She's a nutso murderer.
I think she did kill her mom as well!!!
Criminal conduct, judge, prosecutor, detectives, and police all should be charged will criminal conduct. Lose their jobs, be jailed and sued.
Really makes you think about just how many other injustices are committed by sloppy police/detective work and blatant malpractice on the part of a DA that go unresolved. Innocent individuals sitting in prison or worse (death row)and the chances of them ever getting their cases overturned or even just have an opportunity to argue their case again in front of a judge is miniscule at best. Very sad and scary.
Many innocent people are in prison because of tunnel vision by LE. It’s sad indeed.
If someone can think and have some common sense...
Pam wasn't satisfied that Betsy was gone she just had to ruin a family and frame a grieving husband! What a botched, sad, disturbing case. I hope Russ gets justice but nothing can take back the time he spent defending himself.
To top it off the police state attorney was corruption
Pam Hupp is one of the world’s scariest psychopaths
I know a woman just like her in Arvada. Its all about money. The woman I know hasn't killed anyone, but that's because she found neither of her parents had any money.
@@pbrecheisen be wary around her!
Those investigator, policeman or whoever was involve should be in prison for not doing their job right and an innocent person paying for it.
Restitution
That's right. Judge, prosecutor, detectives, and police.
I think Leah Askey is being charged or investigated.
They should but of course didn't.. his settlement wasn't even that great. All the murders after Betsy's is totally on them
All involved in the illegal conviction of Russ Faria should be charged federally with corruption. The judge, prosecutors and police took the law into their own hands, thus denying a fair trial to Russ. His stepdaughters were also affected as they were denied the insurance money that was robbed from them by the courts. It also ruined their relationships with Russ when they all needed one another the most. Due to the ineptness of this mess they referred to as the (in)justice system, one and possibly two more people lost their lives by the last person they were known to be seen with. All involved should lose their pensions and abilities to to continue in their career fields. Put them in the federal prisons for life, which means no parole. Their corruption led to the proven death of another victim.
Alison is my favorite guest on true crime daily podcast - I would love to have her as a permanent! Such good, strong opinions and I love the sound of her voice it’s so distinctive.
Me too and most comments here are to say the same. Love Judy Ho too.
@@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey yes love her too!
I love her voice, too! This was a great episode!
Alison is like no other. FANTASTIC!
Oh Man, I like this guest but wouldn’t wanna tangle with her- She is tough as nails.
I like her too, she's a no bullshit type and that's always a pleasure to experience. Ana seems to vibe with her really well too.
Totally dig her an Ana👍💚
My favourite guest! Love them together 👌
I like her too.
Imagine these two after a bad guy in a court room. We might have some thinking, expanding those minds. Hell we might even find some justice in a system that is to be tipping side ways more and more.
I would like to know how the jurors feel today about finding Russ guilty.
This is what baffles me about our legal system, how can the police and DA get this SO WRONG! 3 yrs of a mans life! 3 yrs!! Why this man isn’t compensated for these 3 yrs, 100% of his cost! This freaks me out even though I’ve not even had a speeding ticket! So many judges aren’t qualified to do the job!
Amen! Tunnel vision and incompetence!
And the balls she had keeping that money from Betsys girls...
I am so fed up of hearing of the Corrupt System of convicting the wrong Person, with Police turning a blind eye to the Real Alibis and taking only their own accounts of timelines etc etc.
Well the new prosecutor is going out of the old prosecutor and the people that live in this case and he’s going to charge them with felonies!!!
i remember when faye went missing. she was in my nephew’s class. it’s absolutely devastating what happened to her.
Oh my, it was must be so frightening for the other children. Just horrible. Thanks for joining us AnaG 🙏🏼
I love how Allison thinks of how lucky she is to be on the road with her son while being able to participate as a guest on the show too. Sooo optimistic, and agree with her line of thinking. Which I imagine is difficult when you are a criminal defense attorney like she is.
I would be very curious about how Pam’s ex husband And 2 children feel and what they experienced having a psychopath has a wife/ mother
Some cases are just so sad to look at in hindsight, to see the victim trusting the wrong person. I wish we could go back in time and warn them.
Sadly, most of them still wouldn't listen.
Im sorry but I disagree with Alison... when people are convicted and do what this guy did ... you should lose all privacy rights and that phone should be unlocked asap
Katelyn- I am with you! AnaG
I think it should be on a case by case basis. This case definitely deserves a search warrant, of that there is no doubt, but we have to have a balance. As for our info being sold..I don't think our info should be mined and sold, apparently none of the apps are free because we are paying by having our personal information stolen.
The problem is that that's a slippery slope. If we could have it both ways I'd be so, so down. But we can't. Government overreach is already an enormous problem in this country.
I generally scoff at conspiracy theories, but the Pam Huff case is just disgusting and shows that they do happen. The fact that the Prosecutor was ACTIVELY involved in coaching Pam on exactly what to say, what to do with the money to make her look good, manufacturered evidence, AND ignored all the alibi witnesses is just disgusting. There really should be consequences to Prosecutors who KNOWINGLY lie and withhold evidence to wrongfully convict people.
Not the police surely,not the good ol'boys putting Russ through this
🙄.
I remember after Russ was exonerated, Betsys mother still said on the news that she thought he was guilty ... I wonder if she has retracted any of that now ?
Pam Hupp has proven she will do or say absolutely anything to get what she wants- hopefully justice prevails and she’s never able to hurt anyone else. I think she’s psychotic enough to go after her own family (research her mother’s suspicious death). She needs to be watched closely, even inside prison.
Excellent foresight, as we now all know!
Yes.
Keith Morrison did a 6-7 part podcast on Pam. Quite the story-this woman is quite a piece of work! He’s only done a podcast like that with one other subject-Lori Vallow.
I love when Allison is a guest!
In the very first show I watched on the guy convicted, it was so obvious she was guilty and the detective was incredibly stupid when telling her what to say. I was incredulous!
The House on Sumac Drive
A Dateline story
I agree, I was convinced immediately and he was still in prison.
Russ had an alibi. 3 of his friends. And they cops completely ignored them. They were incenced that tge cops thought all three would lie for him. The prosecution also showed questionable behaviour when trying to convince hup to put the insurance money in the kids name bf the trial. Wrong on sooo many levels
Pam Hupp story IS twisted and she's twisted. Is such a true statement! Btw loving how cute the casual look with a ponytail is on you Anna Garcia. Beautiful!! Thanks for giving us another great video.
Eh em, that's Ana with 1 "n" ☝️
😆😎 i totally thought the same tho. She looked so damn cute with the pony!!
Thank you ladies - sometimes you just have to pull the hair back!!
Have a great week! Ana G 🙏🏼
I thought this case was already decided, the one with Hupp? She's a psychopath
She’s been convicted of murdering Mr Gumpenberger (she did that to reframe the husband of Betsy). Now they must have found enough evidence to finally charge her with Betsy’s murder. Hupp was the last person to see Betsy alive, beneficiary of her Betsy’s insurance and the main witness used to convict Russell. I’m hoping charges for murdering her own mother (who also died very suspiciously) next. Finally some justice is coming down on this serial killer!
@@Roseb3 it’s so sad!!! I have to drive by where she found that poor man just about everyday…
@@ccole99 so sad! The way she hunted, manipulated, used and murdered Louis should be considered a hate crime in my opinion.
@@Roseb3 yeah that’s a good point!!!
As far as the first case, the only thing I have to say is...who needs enemies when you have friends like Pam Hupp? I hope she rots behind bars. I feel bad for the victim's husband. Thank God the truth finally came out
IMO, Pam forged Betzy’s signature.
If Pam got charged with Betsy's death to begin with, she would have not been around to murder that innocent man nor her mother.
Love Ana and Alison. Two smart and classy ladies.
Prosecutor liagh asky needs to be charged. Hope Russ is ok
Yeah she was a shady bitch to
Her poor husband.
I totally think it's a crime to intentionally ignore or conceal evidence.... especially if it's exculpatory to the defendant! Granted I have ZERO education in the law, I'm saying from a decidedly logical perspective - this makes sense and the officials involved should MOST CERTAINLY be penalized accordingly!!
If an everyday citizen withheld critical information in a murder case, there would some pretty serious consequences 100%
I'm happy to hear the new prosecutor following the Russ Faria trial saying that he/they are going to investigate the possibility of criminal acts on the part of the police. I hope he's not just blowing smoke about that. But, IMHO, he/they also need to include in that investigation the judge and the prosecuting attorney.
I wonder if Pam told Betsy that Russ was cheating & if SHE got the life insurance, it could go to the daughter (because Russ might spend it on the girlfriend)... If Betsy wasn't in her right mind with depression/pain meds, it's possible to trick her into anything
Hi Ana! I just wanted to say I love this show. The discussion-like way it is is more real and less stylized/gossipy than other shows. I appreciate the lawyer’s input too. ❤️
I live about an hour from Cayce, SC. I remember the Amber Alert coming through my phone when Faye went missing. Saw signs on I-20 with information. I remember the fevered speculation and search for her. I've got a 4 year old and I wouldn't let her out of my sight, going so far as to check on her in the middle of the night thinking some lunatic is in my area snatching children from their yards.
Yeah, the prosecutors investigated themselves. They're not guilty. Poor Russ! I can't imagine.
What about charges for the police investigators?? They put an innocent man in prison and nothing happens to them??? Not fair...they make and break rules? Why??
People like Pam Hupp are SCARY as hell!😳
Some people have lost the right to privacy
Everyone did, a long time ago.
Please tell me he sued the shit out of the Police Department, District Attorney Office and the city. Any updates on Russ' family? Do they talk to him? What about his children? Would like to know if they stood behind him the whole time and if not, how do they feel now?
Ana and Alison have such a wonderful dynamic together. Great episode Ana, Alison and the true crime daily crew! Thank you!
Makes me wonder if maybe Pam didnt pay someone off? Bc this PD is kind beyond the good ol boys type of behavior. Destroy all the evidence? Wtf
Sort of like Stephane Lazarus
@@Mystery207 totally reminds me of her!
If she did, we certainly know how she was able to do so.
@@Mystery207 very much like Stephanie Lazarus!!!
@@a.harris3972 exactly
Pam Hupp was described as having a normal upbringing, married young, divorced ad happily remarried. When and what flipped the switch?
Sounds like a lot of innocent people are locked away for various reasons. It's good that people are helping them
This was such a great episode. Always enjoy hearing Alison’s insight. I’m dying to know how the case turns out with the investigation surrounding Russ Faria’s wrongful conviction. Keep up the great work! 👍
This one we are watching and will update. Thanks for joining us AnaG 🙏🏼
Can I just point out how cute you are? I mean, if that is your real picture on your YT page.
In the series with Renee, Pam was drying money from a woman she befriended and died in Florida and was in a fat hurry to move back to Missouri. What happened to that woman?
Yes! That's what I would like to know!! The neighbors told her she had to move, they wanted nothing to do with her.
I am fascinated with this crime podcast. It is very informative, intelligent and enlightening. Anna is amazing and factual.
I never miss this podcast! Love it!
Lori Vallow is the love child of Pam Hupp and Charlie Manson 🤣
Alison, I agree. We are losing freedom every minute of every day.
The prosecutor in Russ’s case and any prosecutor who behaves in this way should be charged, convicted and get LIFE in prison for this criminal nonsense. This is outrageous and has the potential to make Americans distrust even more, the justice system. I can’t restate enough, this is OUTRAGEOUS. The criminals are operating within the “justice” system.
Fly high, sweet Faye. 🙏
As a South Carolinian, I remember this case well. Now we need justice for Harlee Lewis. Harlee’s mom was arrested for killing her after she claimed someone assaulted her and abducted Harlee.
I'm in Hilton head island. What part of you from in south Carolina?
@@kenyettaready Chesterfield Co. I previously lived in MB and Rock Hill too.
Kershaw County checking in. Hope our state's Casey Anthony gets the max.
@@bronsontolliver9027 as do I! She infuriates me so much. 😡
Wow sounds alot like the Gannon stauch case. How sad 😔
Fireworks inside is absolutely stupid, plain and simple.
Normally, the police couldn't care less if a person is innocent. They do the least amount of work possible and if someone is an easy target, then that's who they go for. It happens over and over again. That's reality.
Chandler Police believing Alex Coxx's lies makes me never want to go to Chandler Az. Especially after Charles Vallow even asked police for help that Lori was going to kill him. Sure diff police but computers would have death threats I hope. Look at all who died cuz of Chandler dum cops!
Absolutely love this collaboration!
Ana love you and Alison💖. Have a GREAT weekend ladies🌹.
Did Betsy actually sign over that life insurance policy? I heard that Pam had some lady at a library sign a paper - acting as a witness to Betsy signing the new paperwork - and the lady didn't really pay attention to what she was signing. Why would the police look into the sudden change of beneficiary when they aren't even looking at Pam at all. Even later on, there's nothing that has said that Betsy does in fact change the paperwork. Like mentioned, why the hell would Betsy do that? Why not to the girls themselves or someone in her immediate family if she and Russ where having problems?
I do believe Pam killed her own mother, of course the poor guy she picked up and framed, and absolutely Betsy!
Love how you two women go back and forth , you have to get together and do more shows together , Love you guts best show ever !! 👍😃 till next time
We’ve known each other a long time so I think we are comfortable going at it!! Thanks for joining us AnaG 🙏🏼
What about the judge?, why the suppression of evidence
Pam's behavior speaks volumes. My daughter died the same time as Betsy. My daughter was terminally ill also. Pam and my ex son in law could be buddies. Murderers have their own rationale.
It's called CONFIRMATION BIAS. These officers had this in the case agains Russ. They could not see past his "guilt" and therefore they missed all the red flags and signs of Pam's guilt.
And this is the only reason why i am not in favour of the death penalty. Everyone involved in Mr. Faria's trial, should be prosecuted.
Ana comes through every week “menstrual pads on her neck” 😭😂 i do believe when explaining extremely dark and difficult stories that are a reality every day and can happen to anyone is important.
This lady is one of my faves on your channel along with Dr Judy Ho. These 3 ladies, Dr Judy, Alison and Ana are intelligent, beautiful AND humble which is a rare combination.
God bless and love to you Ana and Alison from Kerry in the UK ❤
How are the woman in prison with Pam going to be protected from her?
Once again,thankyou for a well presented podcast as you are my Saturday morning fix.
This woman is pure evil. I’m the caregiver for my mentally handicapped Aunt. She’s so sweet and innocent… so Pam tricking this man and then killing him , really breaks my heart. How she fooled the police with all this is unbelievable! I’m so thankful Russ is out and is able to have a chance at a good life. I truly believe Pam killed her mother and Betsy. Great work Ladies!!!!
I'd definitely have Alison on my side hands down. You rock Alison. One heck of a Lady. 🙌🤗⚖️
I like this lady guest you have on ur show this episode! I like her a LOT! I really enjoy her personality & how she doesn't hesitate to engage in conversation. Please keep having her come back on the show & anyone else like her! :)
She's been on a few times, have a look at previous episodes. She's my favourite also.
@@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey
I absolutely love your TH-cam name omg! So awesome!
@@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey
And I will definitely check back on previous episodes to see if I can find this guest again! Thank u!
Russ needs to SUE the crap out of the police department!!! Seriously!! i hope he did!
You two agree to disagree so darn gracefully.Ana I tip my hat off for going up against Allison who KNOWS THE LAW, lol. I have been your fan since you were knocking on doors. Both of you are so smart and beautiful and keep it real, and that’s why we all continue to come back!
Helps that we are friends🙏🏼
All Pam had to do was tell Betsy she could avoid inheritance tax (real or imaginary) by making her the beneficiary for the daughters. Quite simple this has seen and carried out as a manipulation tactic, a good one. As well if Betsy was on painkillers of chemotherapy and thought she was signing something else that too is possible.
I truly dislike that hupp woman.
Alison, thank you so much for openly saying that PH is a strange woman. You sound like an authentic human! These days one must assign a dozen diagnoses to somebody, and describe everything about them as neutral as possible. FFS. You're a breath of fresh air.
So can a warrant get the phone pass code?
I live in St Louis, one second into this case my husband and I said, ooo that lady is shady! She, indeed, was. Her daughter is on tik tok. It's such a sad story. The Cops turned her against Russ and now she tells her story. She's one of the best creators on tik tok. Thankful they found her guilty and Russ is free.
I agree with ana on the phone topic🤦 like if my family member is dead and I know who it is, I wanna know if that person has any more evidence on their phone like a bragging text about whether they did it or not
A phone should be like a house search - get a warrant. Why is the phone more protected than any files or my computer?
You were a great duo!
Thanks to both of you! Great show and hey I live in LA County too!!
Love the levels of detail you bring to your cases, inspiring to the true crime cases I'm covering for sure!
Is there medication to debrief Vallow from her cult thinking 🤔
Definitely misconduct! Those players in the justice system responsible need jail time too! Did Russ sue?
You both did great coverage on the Pam Hupp case. Thank you and hope to see more soon.
I hope he sues their ass. Overlooking or suppressing evidence with an innocent man’s life hanging in the balance is absolute BS. Incompetence.
I just hope there serious about charges against the authorities
Hypo was fired in Florida for forging signatures. How is Betsy’s signature on that policy not suspect?
That mugshot is hilarious 😂 I laugh so hard whenever i see it. She said it looks like she has Maxi Pads around her neck.
Why would someone kill someone with cancer? Why not just wait until they die from the cancer? Oh yeh, money! Still unnecessary!
Alison is so very right regarding the privacy of people's personal telephones.
R.I.P sweet little angel
Just because a document bare’s a person’s true signature, do not for one minute believe that cannot be forged. It is as easy as using a glass coffee table and shining a flashlight up through a paper that bears the signature. There ya go! Exact and perfect tracing. I know because I watched someone demonstrate it once and I was surprised how effortless it was.
I BET SHE GOT HER TO SIGN IT WHILE SHE WAS HIGH ON PAIN KILLERS AND MEDICINE FROM CANCER TREATMENT
Alison best of your guests
Hi Ana, thank you!
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Alison is my favorite guest but I completly disagree about the privacy issue. ✌🏻
Clever, witty and pretty, Alison you're a triple threat! love ya x