Making a cabinet for my 3D printers
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ย. 2019
- This week I made a cabinet for my two Ultimaker 3d printers. The cabinet is fully sound insulated and has air circulation as well as temperature monitoring built inn.
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Eventually you start hearing them even when they are on the other side of the building...and turned off...
THIS IS ME
I still hear mine and it's on the other side of the city...
Is there a name for this phenomena? Is like Tetris Effect but for sound.
gunnerkobra it happened to me too. I believe it’s called ear worm
bruh... got my printer like a month ago... and swear to god... this is happening
Woah nice cabinet. You could probably also use some strong Neodymium Magnets to keep the doors closed! It would look even cleaner!
Push in pop out magnets are probably better. No need to pull the door open with a handle.
Cleaner indeed, but i would be worried that it pops open once unobserved - some huge abs print might fail then - but nice idea anyways!
@@Cruto94 It's not a novel idea and the mechanism works in the same manner as a retractable pen. It's very common on glass doors without handles. It's tried and tested. As for magnet strength, spec it for the application and you will never have issues.
After spending a few minutes modding a printer to reduce noise this weekend, I certainly appreciate this.
Remarkable difference in the ambient sound! good job
My wife and I love the sound of our 3 3D printers running. They are little robots working in the background, right in the living room. LOL I have 2 of the Creality Ender 3 Pro, and Ender 5 Plus.
Exactly, 3D printers don't produce noise, that's a melody....:D
it's not noise. It's singing to me about how happy it is
Noooooo, not those ugly latches!! :(
When a saw the strip in the gap of the doors i thought that you would keep the doors shut with magnets.
Place the magnets on the strip and then on the doors.
was thinking the same thing, perfect hidden latch opportunity..
Came to say the same thing. Everything is crazy well done then he just throws some garden gate latches on it
Yes me too, that downgraded the project. I would have gone with the push pull magnetic latches hidden on the inside
Push to latch/unlatch style latches.
While I agree they don't look awesome, you can see he applies a fair amount of force when closing the doors in order to get a good seal against the weatherstripping. It would probably need to be something more substantial than magnets. There are other options, though.
You’re so amazing!! I’ve watched ALL your videos. SO good and SO inspiring and informative. Learning a ton. You’re wonderful. ❤️❤️❤️
Okay, the little whistle the doors make when you close them is amazing (heard a smidge before 13:00)
Clean&simple. Is it awesome? Yes, it is.
Thanx
YES. about time. Keep em coming
great idea.. I also had two printers who produce a lot of sound.. Building a cabinet around it is a good idea.. Especially the rails to slide the printers out
now your channel starts to grow!!
All the best for you.
I am soo impressed with your channel, I’m glad I subscribed 🤗
Amazing job! Amazing video! Amazing soundtrack! subscribed :) cheers from Brazil!
Always great projects!
Sometimes the printers can overheat if there's not enough ventilation in a cabinet. ABS needs to print hot, but some videos have shown that an enclosure isn't really necessary, and can be worse than open air on the printer. I'm glad you addressed that problem. Good work.
I love the project!, I need to build something similar for other purposes, however, if you want to lower the noise down from a 3d printer you can also look for solutions like SKR mini e3 boards and using less noisy fans. I've got an Ender 3 Pro with the SKR mini e3 v1.2 and it definitely lowered the noise by a LOT, it is now barely noticeable.
Good job, btw that pyramid foam is not sound absorbing but it rather prevents sound from reflecting from it. the foam on the door is much better for sound isolation
What's the technical name for the foam he placed in the door? I've been looking arround and mainly find the sound absortion tiles used in the music industry (I'll be using those for the walls and ceiling of my box)
I'm looking for that foam to place under the printer to reduce the vibration of the printer itself
Let me just say it is way better than I could do. Just like to point out a tip I got from a professional cabinet printing maker is that 3d printing likes to be at a constant temp. Best way to do that is to recirculate the air out then back into the printing environment, in a closed loop. The air going out along a piece of ducting is enough to reduce its temp by a degree or two before getting pumped straight back in. Currently you are pulling cold air greater than a few degrees in to replace the hot air, and printing material doesn't like that. :) That said, it is working well so totally thumbs up from me and cheers for the vid 👍
oh man, this is a beatitull workshop, an this proyectis awesome
I did go the IKEA way for a cabinet for my 3d printer. I used a IKEA kitchen cabinet 60*204 made for build in oven. Have drawers under the printer and shelf above to hold the rolls of plastic. But nice work 👍
yeah thinking doing the same, something from Ikea, to just buy everything ready do go. Can though use the insulation foam and seal around door, and pull out shelf to that. very smart. Window i don't need, even though it could also be done.
Brilliant idea. Like it
Lol. Most people are swapping out the motor drivers and fans. This is so overbuilt, and so well done.
watching this with my printer whurring away next to me :P
good idea, Im making one ofthose for mine
This is absolutely amazing, your a genius. The only thing i would have done differently is embed magnets in the gap filler to get a seamless front.
You could have a webcam in the cabinet so that you can check your print remotely.
I use an Ikea Ivar plus Ikea Norden-sized table top as an enclosure for my large Lulzbot Taz printer (not a mini) covered with plastic panels. A lot quicker, easier and cheaper. I used 3M Velco for the door to it keep 'airtight'. I keep all other 3d printing filament and stuff in additional Ikea Ivar shelves.
How cool!
New sub here. YT has been showing me a bunch of your videos as suggestions, and being that I'm curious about "random building of things" this particular video pulled the trigger. I've got a brand new Ender 3 V2 that needs a home like this, not for noise but for storage of filaments and protection from someone accidentally bumping it, and, to get my darned work bench back. :)
I see that this video is quite old now, so you might already know this by now, but in case you don't: at least one of your printer needs a new set of belts. The belts you have are worn out and have stretched and thus they ride on the high points of the pulleys and the fall down again, making that clocking sound.
This of course affects the print quality.
Just let me know if you have any questions about the printers. I have worked with repairing Ultimaker for the Swedish company that distributes them in the Nordic 😉
And by the way, I really like your videos!
I have soon watched all your old ones and like the new as well 😀
Thank you! I've experienced the same problem. A new set of belts makes the printer nice and quiet again.
Great cabinet. i made mine for my JG Maker Magic 3-D printers out of 2"x2" and scrap pieces of plywood and MDF that was laying around! i made the door out of plexiglas and some scrap 1"x2" pieces...
What about keeping dry the filament?
I really thought that the 3rd compartment was tightly sealed silica gel filled storage box with rolls ready for print...
Outstanding
You kind of look like Ibrahimovic the soccer player :) You make great stuff my man, good job!
3:23 - you could print an adapter for your tracksaw that points the hose upwards so its less likely to catch on things
You deserve much more views
That's a great build, man, congrats! Putting everything in a wooden box is one thing, but padding the whole thing with the foam is another - aren't you concerned with fire safety, though? A CO alarm, at least, maybe?
What could be producing CO in this setup? Or do you mean that the CO might be produced in case of a fire?
@@binaryteddybear8741 Yes, I meant a fire alarm - sorry :)
very dope build. I used Ikea kitchen bottom cabinets. Have yet to install the drawer railings and a baseplate. Also need to do some work on the back wall as it is thin as shit.
Don’t work with wood, but love watching other people making things.
15:20 Noctua :D
thats how you know they are the best :))
@@toootankhamooon as long as it isn't their industrial fans. Those are probably silent compared to other industrial fans, but I'm never going to use Noctua Industrial fans on a PC ever again. They were only quiet when they ran on so low power that they practically were off. Switched to Be Quiet!s Pure Wings and already rocks some Silent Wings too. However, Noctua still makes some pretty OP fans and the sound difference between Noctua and Be Quiet! is practically non existing. Be Quiet does though not produce fans smaller than 120 mm, so I'll definitely rock the Noctua fans for my E3 Pro upgrades
@@Arterexius awesome , hope you enjoy the upgrades , its always the best time of the year :))) and about the be quiet fans , its the forst time for me to hear about them , but then im not that knowledged about fans and stuff , but appreciate the exta info , thanks
Awesome work, would've chosen a nicer lock thou, since the cabinet is so well made.
Hi. Great work men. Love your videos! Are you using the fans to blow in or out the air?
Really good work. Just a note about the locking system. I would have preferred a magnetic push-pull solution. More elegant.👍🤝🤝🤝
Love your vids! :)
Project idea: Making a motorized standing-sitting desk. I don't know if you're as capable with electronics and soldering, but I'm certain it would make for a great video :)
Great video bro!
Computer fans aren't really intended to push air through columns.
I believe blower-type fan designs may perform better at pushing air through enclosed columns, though if someone knows better than I, please let us know!
Every time I watch one of your builds I think to myself "that guy should sell that stuff". The quality of your products visually and functionally is amazing.
He does sell most of the plans for his projects. Check this out:
www.alch.shop/shop/plans
Beautiful done ;-)
you might want to look into etiher moving the electronics and psu out of the enclosure or adding some form of cooling since high temps can damage or degrade them
Just an observation: Do you have a Pathway(filtered) for air to pass through the cabinet? If not then you are simply trying to create a negative pressure chamber vs. moving air through to remove warmed air. That is possibly why you have noticed very little/zero internal ambient temperature changes. Did I miss that (installation of adequate filtered through venting somewhere in the video? You may notice more issue once printing very toxic off-gassing mat'l.
thanks!
He has one fan and one duct to the air ventilation, I'm guessing that the fan sucks the air in and the ventilation suckes it out?
@@melissahill7930 not quite the chimney effect is caused by air blowing over the top of the chimney causing a lower pressure within the chiney creating a suction effect which draws smoke and heat up the chimney
chimneys actually suck air even when the fire is off
Sick cabinet but yeah new drivers/boards would me em silent
Nice but probably pretty expensive :) keep up the good videos they are really good.
wow nice!
would you consider making this project files purchasable? I really love the idea and execution you have here. Doing something similar would really help with dust accumulation and noise in my office space :)
coming back in hopes of making the files available :D
Great video
Look at the grain of those 2x4s, actually some real wood and not the crap we have here in the US, also looks like a real 2x4. Awesome im jealous
Nice project how haven't you got a mil subs
so a little late to the party. but for a fan controller you can use one made for 5.25 in drive bay. they usually have additional temperature sensors and you can do per area cooling with up to 5 fans. as for printing what about using something like a lenovo mini (like the m900) to act as a central server to store prints before sending them off to the printer, and remote in to begin them. i know these printers usually have wifi or sd card slots but it might be a nice addition.
Nice build, my only concern is the fire hazard. Personally would have done it with fireproof sound isolating foam. Other than that great work. // Neighbour from Sweden :)
It'll need an open flame to catch fire. The black insulation is most likely bought here, as I have some of it myself:
www.thomann.de/dk/adam_hall_acoustic_foam_absorber_30mm.htm
The thicker insulation is just Car insulation from Biltema. It'll need some pretty high temperatures to catch fire. Higher than what most 3D printers can produce, unless you place the Titan Aqua/Aero hotend from e3D directly on the insulation and heats it up to the 500 degrees it can reach.
I'd use magnets to hold the doors in place. :)
Hey nice video. The only thing i would add to your video is a Gimbal to tonedown those shakky bits from your movements. Cheers.
What program do you use when making paper templates? i would like to use this idea but unsure what program to use to get accurate print outs. Great video as always! keep it up!
This is nearly a year later, but you could use a 2D CAD program with a printer and/or Plotter (depending on paper size) as well as light spray-adhesive on the paper to help it stick.
Search 'Matthias Wandel Bigprint' - this program can print full size drawings of any size on multiple sheets, I use it all the time, well worth buying.
Did I just watch ironing B-roll ?!? :D
Love the cabinet - but what about automating switching on the fans?
I have a $270 creality ender 3 v2.. its so quiet and actually set it up right outside my bedroom (has silent motor drivers, all you hear is the fans). Also, recently subscribed/really like the channel. That cam arm you made was awesome!
12:52 why not use magnetic catches/latches, push to open, push to lock... it will give more clean look
the shiny foil on the insulation is suppose to reflect and difuse infrared light and heat..
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For cabinet you could have used Boxjoint may be best strength & superb
The planer knife was a nice technique!
"Couple drops of superglue" --proceeds to slather it on-- lmao. Your videos have come such a long way. I'm just eagerly waiting for new videos now...
Add louvers to the fan ports for better temperature control.
Not enough 3D printing solutions used to build the printer enclosure for my likeing.. decent vid to build a cabinet tho 👍👍
you could've just changed the stepper motor drivers and fans on the printer to quieter ones. Anyways, nice video!
Jeah that's true, but considering how much the printers are I'd prefer not to mess with them to much :P
You don't get Ultimakers to mess around with them. You get them because they are absolutely rock solid and just keep going hour after hour. At least with a few minor upgrades. The most advanced maintenance I do on mine is recalibrate the bed every few hundred hours or so.
That said, I've basically replaced the entire feeder and hotend assembly on mine because if the UM2s have a fault, it's the horrid 2,85mm filament. The filament size was easily the cause of 95% of the headache I had with mine.
@@jonatanrullman woot? explain the 2.85 problems plz
I believe he means that most printers don’t run on 2.85mm leaving him to only use low quality filament leading to a whole host of problems
The guys who put their printers in closed cabinets mostly forget that the kill theyr printers power supply over short time. Every 10 °K you cut the lifetime of the builtin Caps by half. Its getting TOOO HOT inside the cabinet to drive the powersupply savely.
did you watch the video to the end?
@@sammytron6628 Yes but nevertheles i wanted to say it LOUD ;) Because its important, and i wanted you to understandy why.
Hey mate, love your work. As many already wrote, you have way to few subscribers!
I´ll adapt your idea as soon as my workshop is build up. But I´ll add a camera with a rasbpi, did you thought about this as well?
Keep your work up, you won a subscriber with me today! :)
Хорошо сделано. Всё продумано - и шумоизоляция, и вентиляция, и защита от сквозняков, и хранение филамента. Осталось наверно добавить свет, чтобы видеть, что печатается внутри.
Давно думаю и себе собрать шкаф для фрезера.
yea thats not a normal sound for 3d printers. i reccomend loosening/tightning the belts lol or depending on how long youve had them maybe new moters
So if I build one of these, can have a 3d printer in my condo/apartment unit, without bother neighbors'?
Don't forget to install your smoke detectors. Always good to seal mdf too. Formaldehyde has no place in your bloodstream. Repetier server / PI and cam to view.......
Did you ever explain the cubby on the right? I suspect you are storing filament and other supplies, but I don't remember seeing you mention it.
I really love your video's, but dynamic filming is something different that shaking the camera like there is an earthquake.
Could you please try using stabilization or a tripod?
Having the Ultimakers resting on foam, the electronics below will get really hot. The drivers don't like that. (Mine have clearly visible burn marks on the PCB after a few years)
I'm not familiar with Ultimaker (having an Ender 3 Pro myself), but it should be possible to move the electronics to an uninsulated part of the cabinet and run wires from the electronics and to the printer with extensions. There's a lot of Ender 3 and E3 Pro owners who do that, myself included. It should be possible to find extension cables online and then possibly print (or make) a new case for the electronics.
@@Arterexius That's entirely possible but with the design of the UM2 it would be much easier to just remove the foam and place them directly on the drawer. That would at least allow some airflow to the electronics underneath. Since they're in a sound proof cabinet you can also add a cooling fan for the board without worrying about the increase in noise.
Fixing? There's nothing to fix, imo. I LOVE that noise... So comforting. But I also purposely play recording of hairdryers, fans, etc.
Also, you're always listening to something in headphones while you work (or at least you always seem to be in your montages). Are you saying that you can still hear the printers while wearing headphones?
Project\video idea here. Switch\Relay or Arduino activated blast gates for closing off the vent when the fans are turned off or something like that. It's an quality of life improvement that could make for a decent video.
Nice build, I am however disappointed that you didn't use a neodymium Magnet latch. Ill let i go this time.... lol
Комментарий в поддержку видео и канала, а также труда мастера сделавшего эту шумоизоляцию.
where are the links for the 3d print files? specifically looking for the bins but may be interested in the jigs and things you made thx
Is there a reason to use the better sound absorption foam on the door only and not all the way around?
Could you make a Video about "How to start 3d Printing" or so?
Nice projekt!
In case you haven't found those channels yet and still want to get into 3D printing, I highly recommend these 3 channels:
Maker's Muse
Thomas Sanladerer
3D Printing Nerd
@@Arterexius thanks!
What about the mainboard and the power supply ? How did you manage this ?
What are you using to do that time lapse where the camera moves?
tbh, I prefer using LCD or SLA 3d printers as they are very very quiet and produce amazingly detailed 3d prints and with a tough resin it's perfect...
Edit: also, the printer prints much much faster than normal FDM Printers.
Could you show what camera rig you use, please? Thanks
Amazing work! Sorry, I'll probably steal some ideas for my own future 3d printing cabinet. Actually most of ideas! :) By the way, why not using magnets for tight closing the doors?
Magnet for close door's?
What was that spotted foam you used to dampen the inside of the doors?
I am planning to build a similar cabinet for my two printers, but I was not planning to put a divider between them. How important is the divider?
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