"I studied Japanese in university" It was at this moment that I knew 1010 was gonna have a massive skill issue. Not even 10 seconds later he mistakes 着る for 好き Sadge
Japanese is kinda hard, and these apps are good at entrapping people. If anyone seriously wants to learn, there are a number of things I recommend. 1. Any kana resource, expect this to be the easiest part. 2. Some sort of kanji resource. Kanji is the biggest gateway for beginners, so something like Wanikani, KKLC, or a shortened Recognition RTK are good. If you can learn to recognize the most common 1000 kanji and apply a meaning to them, that's plenty and you can get the rest from immersion. Get Anki and do flashcards for these daily. 2. Some kind of grammar resource. I've only used Cure Dolly (bless her soul) and nihongokyoshi (advanced but look for 文法) and highly recommend them. No need for active study, just watch/read grammar rules and come back occasionally to refresh or look up specific grammar. 3. Some kind of Anki sentence deck for vocabulary, preferably with audio. If you consume Japanese content, you passively have some common Japanese vocab and can quickly recognize and apply it. The audio will help contextualize it and get your foot in the door. 4. Some kind of immersion tool. Preferably several. Watch Japanese content on youtube and use Language Reactor and Yomichan, insert Kitsunekko subtitles into streaming anime using Substital and parse them with Yomichan, read a Visual Novel connected to Textractor connected to Clipboard Inserter connected to an empty site connected to Yomichan, read simple articles using Yomichan, join a JP server in browser Discord with Yomichan. Use AnkiConnect and Yomichan can now import vocabulary sentences to Anki with audio. 5. Some very concrete goal. Japanese is hard. It's not for everyone but if you find a reason to want it enough you can push through. Listen to music, watch shows, read folklore, follow creators, make a travel plan, etc. Take things one day at a time and remember everything is part of the process. You just gotta keep running. Good luck.
Keep in mind these are just resources I've used and seen success with. There's an endless amount out there, and if you find these steps too much to deal with, there are still good apps to provide daily incremental progress. I've heard good things about LingoDeer, Renshuu, JapanesePod101, Pimsleur, and so on. If you can only do one thing, just find a good app you can stick to. Eventually you can decide to add more resources as you progress.
I never liked Japanese very much. I studied for a long time just a little bit at a time and the more I learned the more I disliked it. I didn't know about "synthetic" languages before I decided to study, and realized I absolutely hate that style. Even further though, design wise, JP is the synthetic nature of Korean with none of its simplicity, and the complexity of Chinese with none of its consistency. The mere fact every character has numerous readings is... I don't really know what to say. You have the most complicated characters in the world and yet they can't pick one way to say them like in Chinese. So essentially, people say that Chinese is hard because you learn more characters but Japanese has on average something like, what, 3 ways to say each character? Even if you know what the character means, know exactly what the word means, which has happened to me many times, I still don't know what the hell the word is. Because it changes how it's pronounced in every context. Because of this, even though JP "only" needs, like, 2000 kanji or whatever it is, how much are you really learning? 2000*3? So ~6000 because every character changes in context. What's really easier? Memorizing some thousand for Chinese or memorizing thousands of characters and their multiple readings? Honestly, I call bullshit and say Chinese is easier. I don't have any reason to learn Chinese, but I know what language I prefer. Wouldn't recommend JP to anyone that isn't a massive weeb planning on moving to Japan and getting an authentic Japanese girlfriend because you can't handle anything other than an authentic Japanese woman
@@CyrilCommando There's certainly truth to what you're saying, but it's important to have some perspective and try to maintain a healthy mindset. A problem with learning Japanese more slowly is that it takes longer to get into a flow state, which allows the learner to be challenged and have the satisfaction of engaging and achieving things with the language. So if that never happens, it becomes very easy to hyperfixate on the negatives of the language. Like imagine learning English and having to deal with all the inconsistent rules, the different dialects, the stresses, the infinite amount of vocabulary. Why the hell are there 50 synonyms for everything?! I'm reading a psychology textbook and the terminology is so dense I look up definitions for words in definitions. But I enjoy when I can engage with the language in a meaningful way, when I learn those difficult concepts, when I can share knowledge with others. And it's the same with Japanese. Sure, it was absolute suffering learning sometimes. But life is full of pain, and trying to give meaning to the suffering. It doesn't have to be something like functionally becoming Japanese. There's soulful music, thousands of years of culture, wonderful people with zany humor, and all of it is connected by a beautiful albeit flawed language. It's just another reflection of humanity. I guarantee it gets easier eventually, but you have to find a reason to love it. It doesn't matter how hard something is if you love it. And if you can't find one, that's fine.
I watch the occasional anime, so you could consider me something of an expert. Nani subarashii chotto matte yare yare That means "You should build your Xiangling" in Japanese.
@@athenalee5524 oh u speak jp? nice what does it say? all i know is yare yare is give me a break bc of jjba (im pretty sure chotto matte is 'wait a minute' from that one ganyu pulling video and nani is 'what')
lmao duolingo love to see it 32 day streak rn on german, using it along w/ german classes @ school n just personal studying/immersion of the language too. Actually i quite like duolingo, great for keeping you going + keeping track of things. gets too much flack from experienced language-leaners imo. ich bin lernen deutsch für meine beste mädchen und frau venti, er ist sehr lieb, schlank, elegant und schön~ ich liebe venti, ich will ihn essen.
He don't review 5 star weapons because they are already best - he write BiS in his excel sheet Event polearm is okay and slightly lower than R5 white tassel Best 4* is deathmatch
im wondering where do japanese learners go afterwards? (i dont learn japanese atm, ich bin lernen deutsch für meine beste mädchen und frau venti, (yes that is actually my reason) but i might wanna learn jp when im older. (15 rn) where do you go to learn japanese?
@@juice3287 Memrise is a good place to start if you need vocab. For grammar, I recommend Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese. It teaches you from basic to advanced stuff. After that you can mostly hop from one resource to another. Though if possible I recommend going to wikipedia as well to learn about Japanese syntax, phonology, etc. It'll help you a lot
@@juice3287 - first you have to learn kana(Hiragana + katakana) which are like alphabets in English. Japanese have 3 scripts: 1. Hiragana - used for local words and particles(like grammer) 2. Katakana - used for non-japanese words 3. Kanji - Chinese characters - Learn some basic kanji but focus on learning words more than remembering kanji - learn common phrases like greetings, self introduction, etc - make yourself involved in the culture like listening j-pop or reading manga in JP with using Google lens You can learn this much by just youtube
The problem with Duolingo is that it doesn't teach you to, nor test your ability in, comprehending or thinking in Japanese. It forces you to learn to translate English into Japanese and vice versa. Very rigidly, at that. This is bad because if you go up to someone and are thinking "how do I say this English thing in Japanese?" you have already lost. You will get lost in the English grammar and be unable to recall things properly, by adding this step. The rigidity also means you will get stuck in a distraction loop, constantly questioning if an alternate way of saying something that duolingo has marked as incorrect, is actually valid or not. You will waste far too much time on the forums/comments of the questions. And if you aren't, it means you will be taught many incorrect things or things without proper context. Duolingo's grammar is also not properly taught. All nuance is lost. The only thing you will come away with is some vocab, which could have been more efficiently acquired via a ~2000 word general anki deck, or a deck based on a textbook. If you want something like duolingo quizzes, there's also a set of anki decks of sentences, set to different levels. They are referred to as N5-N1 anki sentence decks, if you are looking online. More on Duolingo and Japanese: th-cam.com/video/71ILe6jcguk/w-d-xo.html
"I studied Japanese in university"
It was at this moment that I knew 1010 was gonna have a massive skill issue. Not even 10 seconds later he mistakes 着る for 好き Sadge
He's gonna do real great in Kanji tho :)
Yeetcrafter lmao
doulingo its actually a green daruma doll
or a sensei english teacher.
Is no one else gonna mention how he kept calling the duolingo mascot a frog and not an owl?
Ikr. I wonder how he's survive that menace owl
Don't worry Duo has already dispatched assassins after him
Japanese is kinda hard, and these apps are good at entrapping people. If anyone seriously wants to learn, there are a number of things I recommend.
1. Any kana resource, expect this to be the easiest part.
2. Some sort of kanji resource. Kanji is the biggest gateway for beginners, so something like Wanikani, KKLC, or a shortened Recognition RTK are good. If you can learn to recognize the most common 1000 kanji and apply a meaning to them, that's plenty and you can get the rest from immersion. Get Anki and do flashcards for these daily.
2. Some kind of grammar resource. I've only used Cure Dolly (bless her soul) and nihongokyoshi (advanced but look for 文法) and highly recommend them. No need for active study, just watch/read grammar rules and come back occasionally to refresh or look up specific grammar.
3. Some kind of Anki sentence deck for vocabulary, preferably with audio. If you consume Japanese content, you passively have some common Japanese vocab and can quickly recognize and apply it. The audio will help contextualize it and get your foot in the door.
4. Some kind of immersion tool. Preferably several. Watch Japanese content on youtube and use Language Reactor and Yomichan, insert Kitsunekko subtitles into streaming anime using Substital and parse them with Yomichan, read a Visual Novel connected to Textractor connected to Clipboard Inserter connected to an empty site connected to Yomichan, read simple articles using Yomichan, join a JP server in browser Discord with Yomichan. Use AnkiConnect and Yomichan can now import vocabulary sentences to Anki with audio.
5. Some very concrete goal. Japanese is hard. It's not for everyone but if you find a reason to want it enough you can push through. Listen to music, watch shows, read folklore, follow creators, make a travel plan, etc. Take things one day at a time and remember everything is part of the process. You just gotta keep running. Good luck.
Very helpful, bless you 🙏
I'm taking notes on this, didn't expect a genuine advice on our favorite skill issue strimer video lol, have a good day king 🙏
Keep in mind these are just resources I've used and seen success with. There's an endless amount out there, and if you find these steps too much to deal with, there are still good apps to provide daily incremental progress. I've heard good things about LingoDeer, Renshuu, JapanesePod101, Pimsleur, and so on. If you can only do one thing, just find a good app you can stick to. Eventually you can decide to add more resources as you progress.
I never liked Japanese very much. I studied for a long time just a little bit at a time and the more I learned the more I disliked it. I didn't know about "synthetic" languages before I decided to study, and realized I absolutely hate that style. Even further though, design wise, JP is the synthetic nature of Korean with none of its simplicity, and the complexity of Chinese with none of its consistency. The mere fact every character has numerous readings is... I don't really know what to say. You have the most complicated characters in the world and yet they can't pick one way to say them like in Chinese. So essentially, people say that Chinese is hard because you learn more characters but Japanese has on average something like, what, 3 ways to say each character? Even if you know what the character means, know exactly what the word means, which has happened to me many times, I still don't know what the hell the word is. Because it changes how it's pronounced in every context. Because of this, even though JP "only" needs, like, 2000 kanji or whatever it is, how much are you really learning? 2000*3? So ~6000 because every character changes in context. What's really easier? Memorizing some thousand for Chinese or memorizing thousands of characters and their multiple readings? Honestly, I call bullshit and say Chinese is easier. I don't have any reason to learn Chinese, but I know what language I prefer. Wouldn't recommend JP to anyone that isn't a massive weeb planning on moving to Japan and getting an authentic Japanese girlfriend because you can't handle anything other than an authentic Japanese woman
@@CyrilCommando There's certainly truth to what you're saying, but it's important to have some perspective and try to maintain a healthy mindset. A problem with learning Japanese more slowly is that it takes longer to get into a flow state, which allows the learner to be challenged and have the satisfaction of engaging and achieving things with the language. So if that never happens, it becomes very easy to hyperfixate on the negatives of the language. Like imagine learning English and having to deal with all the inconsistent rules, the different dialects, the stresses, the infinite amount of vocabulary. Why the hell are there 50 synonyms for everything?! I'm reading a psychology textbook and the terminology is so dense I look up definitions for words in definitions. But I enjoy when I can engage with the language in a meaningful way, when I learn those difficult concepts, when I can share knowledge with others. And it's the same with Japanese. Sure, it was absolute suffering learning sometimes. But life is full of pain, and trying to give meaning to the suffering. It doesn't have to be something like functionally becoming Japanese. There's soulful music, thousands of years of culture, wonderful people with zany humor, and all of it is connected by a beautiful albeit flawed language. It's just another reflection of humanity. I guarantee it gets easier eventually, but you have to find a reason to love it. It doesn't matter how hard something is if you love it. And if you can't find one, that's fine.
I watch the occasional anime, so you could consider me something of an expert.
Nani subarashii chotto matte yare yare
That means "You should build your Xiangling" in Japanese.
google translate says its "what a wonderful wait a minute do it" 😭😭😭
@@juice3287 not entirely correct but eh it's google translate 😂
@@athenalee5524 oh u speak jp? nice
what does it say? all i know is yare yare is give me a break bc of jjba
(im pretty sure chotto matte is 'wait a minute' from that one ganyu pulling video and nani is 'what')
@@juice3287 Subarashii means wonderful
香菱を育成した方が良いよ。
I think that’s how you say “you should build Xiangling” for anyone curious.
Totally called the Chinese kanji bit lol
This was actually more fun to watch then I expecting going into it
lmao duolingo love to see it
32 day streak rn on german, using it along w/ german classes @ school n just personal studying/immersion of the language too. Actually i quite like duolingo, great for keeping you going + keeping track of things. gets too much flack from experienced language-leaners imo. ich bin lernen deutsch für meine beste mädchen und frau venti, er ist sehr lieb, schlank, elegant und schön~ ich liebe venti, ich will ihn essen.
1010 can you please make a video on Staff of Scarlet Sands?
Also the free polearm from the new event pls...
He don't review 5 star weapons because they are already best - he write BiS in his excel sheet
Event polearm is okay and slightly lower than R5 white tassel
Best 4* is deathmatch
8:21 "京東" lmao even cantonese is bad
Not using Duolingo for language, might try out their upcoming math app and speedrun it.
there is eight table... wow... *dies inside*
duolingo frog 😭
for beginners, duolingo is only good for first few days just to get you started. It was actually good for learning stroke orders of kana characters
im wondering where do japanese learners go afterwards? (i dont learn japanese atm, ich bin lernen deutsch für meine beste mädchen und frau venti, (yes that is actually my reason) but i might wanna learn jp when im older. (15 rn) where do you go to learn japanese?
@@juice3287
Memrise is a good place to start if you need vocab. For grammar, I recommend Tae Kim's Guide to Japanese. It teaches you from basic to advanced stuff.
After that you can mostly hop from one resource to another. Though if possible I recommend going to wikipedia as well to learn about Japanese syntax, phonology, etc. It'll help you a lot
@@juice3287
- first you have to learn kana(Hiragana + katakana) which are like alphabets in English. Japanese have 3 scripts:
1. Hiragana - used for local words and particles(like grammer)
2. Katakana - used for non-japanese words
3. Kanji - Chinese characters
- Learn some basic kanji but focus on learning words more than remembering kanji
- learn common phrases like greetings, self introduction, etc
- make yourself involved in the culture like listening j-pop or reading manga in JP with using Google lens
You can learn this much by just youtube
@@Antyla thanks dude, will keep in mind :)
@@RR-ts9qe thanks! screenshotted & will keep in mind, much appreciated
10:12 the ending is cute, I like noelle's expression
This was definitely interesting. I hope you will make another video about duolingo haha. Unless you genuinely dont like it of course!
Pretty sure I've heard you speak better japanese in other videos🤣🤣
As a Chinese, Kanji is indeed very easy
You also just gotta dunk into your inner Yamato and Shintō. Half the time, you gotta ask if you read it the Japanese way or the normal way.
Shirley cannot go wrong
I heard somewhere that "tenten" means those little " on some japanese characters to change their sound like SU to ZU and etc.
Rare to see
Yasai wa suki
Usually 'ga' for suki
predicting a fail cuz he cant even speedrun abyss LUL
5:50 fuck this tips yo!
🌸😹It would be a sped run of speed runs, to end all speed runs!😹🌸
kek
i am only at n3 also, but i haven't tried n2 and n1 so i can't say but i don't remember being this bad on the first part when i tried
broo the clown is got left behind
1010 japanese teaching stream when
The problem with Duolingo is that it doesn't teach you to, nor test your ability in, comprehending or thinking in Japanese. It forces you to learn to translate English into Japanese and vice versa. Very rigidly, at that. This is bad because if you go up to someone and are thinking "how do I say this English thing in Japanese?" you have already lost. You will get lost in the English grammar and be unable to recall things properly, by adding this step.
The rigidity also means you will get stuck in a distraction loop, constantly questioning if an alternate way of saying something that duolingo has marked as incorrect, is actually valid or not. You will waste far too much time on the forums/comments of the questions. And if you aren't, it means you will be taught many incorrect things or things without proper context.
Duolingo's grammar is also not properly taught. All nuance is lost. The only thing you will come away with is some vocab, which could have been more efficiently acquired via a ~2000 word general anki deck, or a deck based on a textbook. If you want something like duolingo quizzes, there's also a set of anki decks of sentences, set to different levels. They are referred to as N5-N1 anki sentence decks, if you are looking online.
More on Duolingo and Japanese: th-cam.com/video/71ILe6jcguk/w-d-xo.html
I LOVE YOU
Perfection
You don't really need Japanese to go to Japan.. well, except his English is also terrible, so he might as well
5:38 how to know kanji
10:02 is he studying vtubers as well?
I think I would score higher than 1010 on this test. 🤣 I'm worse in Japanese than I thought.
1010 has skill issue in dualingo too
Use me as a COPIUM button 🤣
Skill Issue Speedrun
スキルの問題
テンテンはスキルの問題がある、可哀想 (じょうだん)
What is tenten’s native language?
Cantonese (he's from HK).
Nice
I was able to get venti
wætashi wâ hahaha
Javanese
Yessur
skill issue
Soo much skill issue
な
Skill issue?
ま