Thanks for this conversation. I really enjoyed it. One thing that interests me is the relationship of the Apostle Paul and the historical Jesus (and the Gospels). There are allusions and quotes to the Gospels in the letters of Paul, but it's not as thoroughgoing or as detailed as some perhaps might have expected. Did you want to have any comment on that relationship at all? Thanks.
Hey Robert, appreciate the comment. We've recently put out a short (~7min) on whether Paul corrupted Jesus' gospel, a claim often made by Muslims, Judaisers, and Jesus Mythicists. Hope its helpful :) th-cam.com/video/nlU-9rWoREg/w-d-xo.html
Agreement all over the Empire? You mean a few Mediterranean cities? It took one week to sail from Rome to Alexandria. No one disputed Luke's authorship? We know at the very least Marcion of Sinope and his followers did.
Messianic Prophecies: God claimed he fortells the future, especially about who the Messiah will be in the Hebrew Scriptures. “Declare to us the things to come, tell us what the future holds, so that we may know that you are gods.” (Isa. 41:23) “Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, the Lord?” (Isa. 45:21) Peter - Acts 3:18,22 those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren (Deu 18:15)'. Jesus - John 5:46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. Luke 24:44,46 Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me. This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day Birth/Life As Moses had to escape infanticide, and was made to return to his land, and as Moses turned water to blood as his first sign and commanded the sea and fed many in the wilderness, so was Jesus, and as Moses established the memorial of the slain lamb to remember their deliverance, so was Jesus. Titles: Messiah would be a prophet (Deu18:15), a priest (Zec6:13); called King (Ps2:6), declared the Son of God (Ps2:7); Messiah would be God (Isa9:6) Birth: born in Bethlehem (Micah5:2); born of a virgin (Isa7:14); come before the destruction of the second temple at AD 70 (Mal3:1). Descendants: come from the line of Abraham (Gen22:18), Issac (Gen17:19), Jacob (Num24:17), from the tribe of Judah (Gen49:10), heir to the throne of King David (Isa9:7); Miracles: Ministry begins in Galilee (Isa9:1); Will heal the blind, deaf, lame and raise the dead (Isa35:5); Will teach the people using parables (Ps78:2); enter Jerusalem on a donkey (Zec9:9); usher in a new covenant (Jer31:31) Crucifixion As Joseph was betrayed and sold by his own and later was exalted, so was Jesus. As Moses lifted up the bronze serpent so that those who look to it are saved, so was Jesus. As Psalm 22 & Isaiah 53 describe crucifixion and as the Passover lamb which was to be eaten and its blood on the door saved them and as the sacrificial lamb symbolized the atoning for sins, so was Jesus. As the high Priest in the tabernacle sprinkles the blood of the sacrifice on the golden mercy seat in the holy of holies, so was Jesus. Betrayed: betrayed for 30 pieces of silver (Zec11:13); Crucifixion: be rejected by His own people; pierced & atone for our sins (Isa53:3-10) Sacrifice: bring an end to sin (Dan9:24) Resurrection As Jonah spent three days and three nights in the belly of a great fish, so was Jesus' resurrection from the dead on the third day. As Issac was to be sacrificed on the third day and was delivered from death, so was Jesus. Resurrection: rise from the dead (Ps16:10); After ascension: become a Light to the Gentiles and all nations (Isa60:3); worshipped by all nations (Dan9:14)
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In conclusion, Christ is King.
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Amen! Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords!
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Thanks for this conversation. I really enjoyed it. One thing that interests me is the relationship of the Apostle Paul and the historical Jesus (and the Gospels). There are allusions and quotes to the Gospels in the letters of Paul, but it's not as thoroughgoing or as detailed as some perhaps might have expected. Did you want to have any comment on that relationship at all? Thanks.
Hey Robert, appreciate the comment. We've recently put out a short (~7min) on whether Paul corrupted Jesus' gospel, a claim often made by Muslims, Judaisers, and Jesus Mythicists. Hope its helpful :)
th-cam.com/video/nlU-9rWoREg/w-d-xo.html
Agreement all over the Empire? You mean a few Mediterranean cities? It took one week to sail from Rome to Alexandria. No one disputed Luke's authorship? We know at the very least Marcion of Sinope and his followers did.
Messianic Prophecies: God claimed he fortells the future, especially about who the Messiah will be in the Hebrew Scriptures. “Declare to us the things to come, tell us what the future holds, so that we may know that you are gods.” (Isa. 41:23) “Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, the Lord?” (Isa. 45:21)
Peter - Acts 3:18,22 those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. For Moses truly said to the fathers, ‘The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your brethren (Deu 18:15)'. Jesus - John 5:46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. Luke 24:44,46 Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me. This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day
Birth/Life
As Moses had to escape infanticide, and was made to return to his land, and as Moses turned water to blood as his first sign and commanded the sea and fed many in the wilderness, so was Jesus, and as Moses established the memorial of the slain lamb to remember their deliverance, so was Jesus.
Titles: Messiah would be a prophet (Deu18:15), a priest (Zec6:13); called King (Ps2:6), declared the Son of God (Ps2:7); Messiah would be God (Isa9:6)
Birth: born in Bethlehem (Micah5:2); born of a virgin (Isa7:14); come before the destruction of the second temple at AD 70 (Mal3:1).
Descendants: come from the line of Abraham (Gen22:18), Issac (Gen17:19), Jacob (Num24:17), from the tribe of Judah (Gen49:10), heir to the throne of King David (Isa9:7);
Miracles: Ministry begins in Galilee (Isa9:1); Will heal the blind, deaf, lame and raise the dead (Isa35:5); Will teach the people using parables (Ps78:2); enter Jerusalem on a donkey (Zec9:9); usher in a new covenant (Jer31:31)
Crucifixion
As Joseph was betrayed and sold by his own and later was exalted, so was Jesus. As Moses lifted up the bronze serpent so that those who look to it are saved, so was Jesus. As Psalm 22 & Isaiah 53 describe crucifixion and as the Passover lamb which was to be eaten and its blood on the door saved them and as the sacrificial lamb symbolized the atoning for sins, so was Jesus. As the high Priest in the tabernacle sprinkles the blood of the sacrifice on the golden mercy seat in the holy of holies, so was Jesus.
Betrayed: betrayed for 30 pieces of silver (Zec11:13);
Crucifixion: be rejected by His own people; pierced & atone for our sins (Isa53:3-10)
Sacrifice: bring an end to sin (Dan9:24)
Resurrection
As Jonah spent three days and three nights in the belly of a great fish, so was Jesus' resurrection from the dead on the third day. As Issac was to be sacrificed on the third day and was delivered from death, so was Jesus.
Resurrection: rise from the dead (Ps16:10);
After ascension: become a Light to the Gentiles and all nations (Isa60:3); worshipped by all nations (Dan9:14)