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Hi @marksimmons4414 as we discuss in the video, I think the key here is to ask: What would have made sense to the original author and audience? Using the two systems preserves the integrity of the original records rather than retrofitting them into one standardised system that would distort the historical context.

Hey @LM-jz9vh - Truth doesn’t depend on who speaks it; it stands or falls on its own merit. Valuing ideas based on their logic, evidence, and substance-rather than the identity, status, or authority of the speaker-is the foundation of genuine scholarship and intellectual integrity.

Hey @charlesbrowniii8398 I'm not sure if you watched through, but we address this at 02:01:28. It is one of the simpler alleged contradictions to deal with.

@@drcdeane Sorry, I didn't get that far in the video, but have watched it now. Your argument seems to be that there probably was a longer ending that eliminated the contradiction, but it just got lost. You are correct in that it is a very simple way to deal with any contradiction - trust us, it used to say what we want. As for, "well it says they didn't tell anyone, but they probably did," the text is very clear, and I wonder if you would be so willing to read your own meaning into other parts like the creation account or global flood.

Hey ​@charlesbrowniii8398 , no worries. Perhaps there's a misunderstanding here. It's not a matter of reading a meaning into the text, it is far and away the scholarly consensus that Mark 16:9-20 isn't original. Extant manuscript evidence (eg, Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus, other marginal notes re. authenticity), stylistic differences, early church father attestation, all feed into theories of theological motivation for a later scribal addition. And the text is not as clear as you suggest - v. 7 is an instruction to tell the disciples.

Is the Bible sound enough to understand most of the history of the Jewish People? No! 40 years wondering the desert for a trek that would a month! Is the Bible sound enough to serve as a source for personal introspection? No! If you rape my daughter you must marry her. Is the Bible sound enough to be the one and only guide for my life and afterlife? No! You may beat your slave as long as they live. What Nuance?

The problem is that if the supposed all powerful creator of everything, isn't capable of communicating its message in a coherent non contradictory way, by what mechanism do you decide what parts can be relied upon. You become nothing more than a cafeteria Christian choosing from a menu of over 32 thousand verses only those that align with your theology.

@@downenout8705 I mostly agree. My main point is that human languages are, by their very nature, contradictory, ambiguous, subjective, vague, and metaphorical, among other properties. If a god wants to send us a non-contradictory message, the first thing he has to do is transmit it somehow other than in a book. In my opinion, the Bible is a very poorly written book, but even if it was a million times better written, it would still be lacking as a transmission method for a god.

The content suggests otherwise.

I continue to examine the Bible with critical inquiry, an application of my emotions regarding compassion, love, mercy, patience, and justice. But the "God" depicted in the Bible violates my idea of a moral being and thus, undeserving of my worship. Hell, of course is the mother of all of my problems with the bible. It perhaps, paints the most despicable and hideous of all the Christian God’s crimes. Indeed, the cruelest of all concentration camps. (Certainly, far worse than the ones created by the Nazis.). Any true loving being, especially one that proclaims himself to having the very essence of forgiveness, would never condemn his own children to everlasting torment, especially for something as menial as lack of faith. But there it is, described biblically as the “lake of fire”, “the place of eternal torment with weeping and gnashing of teeth” Jesus said in Mark 9:42-48 That it is better to commit suicide or self-maiming than to be delivered unto hell. There are many, many more topics that I find objectionable regarding the bible, such as sexism, infanticide, homophobia, and the likes. But they all violate my morality to worship a hypocritical, judgmental, self-righteous murderer. Yeah, I understand; in punishment, it could send me to the hell it’s made for those it dislikes. But if there were no other choice but worshiping it, I would walk in proudly.

As a child I used to think about hell and it seemed unfair to me that God would send people there. God seemed like an awful bully. It wasn’t until I got saved that I finally understood that I deserve to go to hell, and that despite me deserving it, God saved me from that fate. For me to really be so ignorant of my own evil doings through my entire life span and act like I’m a saint, would be dishonest and hypocritical of me to say. People like to think god is playing games with us and “testing us” but the truth we’re the ones who do that daily. God has laid it out so simple for us. He gave us his word, his commandments and told us how to live because anything else brings consequences here on earth. All we humans have done is tear each other down with war and betrayal. All he asks is to give glory to him and fallow him so that we won’t live that way. It’s that simple, no games. The reason god seemed like some bully at times is because we humans have always rebelled against him and we still do to this day. Science has also never DISPROVEN god. True Christianity is not a religion, it’s a relationship with Christ it’s not meant to be churchianity where you only attend a church building. The word church in Greek means “assembly or gathering”, it refers to people of the faith who you connect with coming together, not a building. The Bible is the word of god to equip any person not just “weak minded” to go against the evil of this world that society tries to brain wash us with. It doesn’t matter how many times you read the bible, to the natural man the bible will sound foolish. It’s only until you humble yourself and you are saved that these things will make sense. 1 Corinthians 2:14 & James 4:6

​@@BenjiBeats Science does not have the process to prove or disprove the existence of a God or gods. The burden of proof relies strongly on the one claiming of its existence. "God" is endowed by his followers with the following attributes: He is eternal, all-powerful, and created everything. He created all the laws of nature and can change anything by an act of will. He is all-good, all-loving, and perfectly just. He is a personal God who experiences all of the emotions a human does. He is all-knowing. He sees everything past and future. "God is the Alpha and the Omega". Loosely defined, it means the beginning and the end, the all knowing. This of course, implies that all of his actions and the results are fore known to him. On a personal level, I have a real problem with this notion. For if God was to know ahead of time my suffering as a child and then someday he would send me to hell for a simple lack of faith, I ask, what was the purpose in him creating me in the first place? Was it simply to watch me be tortured again and again and then again? According to believers, and based on your thoughts, God's creation was originally perfect, but humans, by disobeying him, brought imperfection into the world. Humans are evil and sinful, and must suffer in this world because of their sinfulness. God gives humans the opportunity to accept forgiveness for their sin, and all who do will be rewarded with eternal bliss in heaven, but while they are on earth, they must suffer for his sake. All humans who choose not to accept this forgiveness must go to hell and be tormented for eternity. Allow me to ask, what did God do during that eternity before he created 'everything'? If God was all that existed in the beginning of time, what disturbed the eternal equilibrium and compelled him to create? Was he bored? Was he lonely? God is supposed to be perfect. If something is perfect, it is complete--it needs nothing else. We humans engage in activities because we are pursuing that elusive perfection, because there is disequilibrium caused by a difference between what we are and what we want to be. If God is perfect, there can be no disequilibrium. There is nothing he needs, nothing he desires, and nothing he must or will do. Why then such a need to be followed and glorified by imperfect humans? A God who is perfect does nothing except exist. Therefore, a perfect God doesn't exist.

For some denominations I completely agree, but I urge you to check out your local congregation of the Church of Christ. While I can’t speak for humanity and say we all try to live in a way that reflects the character of God, I can say as someone who was a skeptic of the Christian faith after growing up in denominationalism that after 4 studies with an elder from the church of Christ I was on fire with zeal and could not study enough. Some more advice I will part with, just read. Set apart time to open the Bible and read. God loves you and desires to for you to be in the Kingdom!

And goats too.. And his disciples too.. are they god too??!

@Dialogos1989 yes they do. The stand in the presence of Jesus as priest, prophet and King. "Jesus laid hands on them and said. Who's sins you forgive will be forgiven and who's sins you retain I will retain." Jesus ordained then in the priestly role to hold bond and absolve. Every single time.

Matthew 7:12 KJV [12] Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Really not that hard now, is it? I'd also suggest this verse: And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:16

Elaborate?

@@fg5137 There is no evidence of omniscience in Abrahamic text. Nor is there any evidence that an individual, or multiple individuals, were or continue to be in relationship with an omniscient being in any of the Abrahamic texts. Mutatis mutandis the utterances of any one Abrahamic adherent, or multiple Abrahamic adherents. Whether the individual, or multiple ideviduals adhere to Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.

And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 21:16 Matthew 7:12 KJV [12] Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Got any more lies you wanna share?

@@MrSeedi76 The prohibition in Exodus 21 was against kidnapping fellow Hebrews. All of Exodus 21 is about how Hebrews should treat fellow Hebrews. The Israelites kidnapped non-Hebrews all the time, and kidnapping was not the only means of obtaining slaves. So the Exodus 21 in no way opposes slavery. So....got any more ignorance you wanna share?

Nope. You need to understand what chattel slavery actually is. Chattel slavery is defined as "the enslaving and owning of human beings and their offspring as property, able to be bought, sold, and forced to work. Another definition is: "The condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude." Leviticus 25 explicitly describes and condones chattel slavery. "44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour." The Bible condones and promotes chattel slavery. Educate yourself.

You will not find one scripture where the God of the Bible talks about slavery as being a bad thing and putting a stop to it. Did the God of the Bible stop slavery in the New Testament. No, he did not.! And let’s not forget when you talk about servitude what happened to the non-Hebrew slaves in the Bible you know the ones that were slaves for life. Their children became slaves for life. A newborn child was automatically born into being a slave for life, and this continued for generation after generation , and this is all endorsed by the loving and caring God of the Bible. One person owning another person as their property is immoral it is evil and it is cruel, but what even makes it worse is when I listen to Christian apologists like yourself making excuses for such actions.

@Bugsy0333 if you hate God, just say so. Just remember there will be an end to your hatred, you'll be judged by your own words, and condemned by your own words, but you won't listen to me, you will continue to hate God your entire life up to the very end, that is when you will find out just how wrong you were. Because that place you send yourself will not be as nice nor accommodating as you want it to be. No argument with your rants about God.

@ I never mentioned anything but hate and please stop the fear mongering it really serves you no justice in life. What happens when you finally find out that you’re wrong or as a Christian is that not possible? We won’t listen to me you know everything and you just cannot be incorrect . I truly feel sorry for you, but I respect you as a person.

Hey mate. Don’t think so. Comments are welcome. Are you sure it was on this video?

​@@qcsocialsstrange. Yes. Just commented a short time ago. Maybe a TH-cam "hiccup". I think comments disappear quite often without the fault of the channel owner.

@@MrSeedi76 TH-cam automatically deletes comments deemed offensive or spam (including lengthy comments). An effective way to get around a lengthy response being automatically removed is to post something short and then later edit it. That does not allow you to use "offensive" words and terms.

Not quite. ‘Not by sight’ refers to not being able to see what the future holds. Christian faith, as Dan explained, is based on what we already know from the Bible. Biblical faith is not blind, it is just based on evidence that some people don’t find acceptable.

@rebekahearly1144 So "not by sight" is not "blind"?

​​​​​​@@11kravitznThat would be based on reasonable inference from what you already see available as evidence, trusting in that such as you with a possible partner/spouse for the rest of marriage, it's as "blind" as that in the same sense. It's also possible some Christians might have or still do operate solely under blind-faith (since there was a commenter who implied that in an earlier short from Dan) but it's not *actually* biblically warranted regardless of whether you're an unbeliever anyway.

You are a idiot

Explaining how people came to act morally, and then grounding goodness ontologically in something more than mere emotivism or relative sociocultural standards, are two different things. I intentionally say “difficult” in the video to reflect the challenge, fully aware that there are a few proposals on the philosophical table. Hope that helps.

I agree there are three levels of motivation spoken about in Scripture: fear, rewards, and love. But I do think they are ordered, with love being the highest form.

​@@qcsocialsthat's definitely true.

Just like your opinion is useless and meaningless. But nice to see another display of the superior atheist ethics and demeanor 😂.