Sennheiser updated the Ambeo firmware to 1.0.237 and also overhauled the Smart Control App. It now supports not only Chromecast, but also Tidal Connect, Spotify Connect and Apple AirPlay 2. They really care about their products.
@@ROCCATEER92 Thanks for replying on that. Im moving houses in 4 months and am looking to buy this soundbar. Only fear I have is that 2 months later they will announce a newer version. But on the other hand, when it comes to tech, there will always be something newer.
Don't you think you should have updated the title and at least noted in the comments that there was a firmware update a long time ago that solved the latency issue...? As you can see from the comments, people who watch this old review are not aware of that fact.
I have this soundbar running with my Sony 75” X950G and I don’t have these issues. I spent a day going around Sydney checking soundbars and getting them to demo them for me I ended up choosing the Sennheiser. When I first set it up with my tv I was blown away with the amount of sound filling the room and it dose amazing job of up mixing 5.1 we are watching old movies now with it. Love it!
Your TV has eARC, probably that's why it works well. I wonder which TV models were tested with the bar that had the latency issue. It isn't mentioned in the video and the full review.
Edward Chung They certainly didn’t test TVs with HDMI 2.1. A TV with HDMI 2.0 ARC can’t even pass through 3D sound formats so it’d be moronic not to plug your sources into the bar.
My Ambeo is connected yo 10 yr old Samsung TV with no ARC. Just normal Hdmi. Works great. All sources straight into bar Roku box and cd/dvd player and 1 cable out from Ambeo's eArc hdmi into TV hdmi. No issues at all even indicates on Smart App that Atmos signal coming from Roku box. Also, paired with Klipsch sub. Wonderful
No latency issues with mine. My Ambeo is connected yo 10 yr old Samsung TV with no ARC. Just normal Hdmi. Works great. All sources straight into bar Roku box and cd/dvd player and 1 cable out from Ambeo's eArc hdmi into TV hdmi. No issues at all even indicates on Smart App that Atmos signal coming from Roku box. Also, paired with Klipsch sub. Wonderful
@@thenote2367 He clearly said the is if your sound is coming from the tv to the soundbar.....that is if u are using eARC/ARC from your tv to send sound the soundbar. Since u connected all your sources directly to the soundbar....you don't have latency issues.
I've been using mine for about a week now. It's connected to a Sammy 75Q9FN via ARC to the Ambeo's eARC...no lip sync issues at all viewing from Netflix, prime Video, FIOS TV or my Xbox1x. Expensive, but excellent sound for movies and music in a single package.
@@matthiasv.5469 Yes, from the Sennheiser Smart Control app, you select input settings under source and there is a lip sync adjustment range of 1ms through 100ms.
@@ryanwaniata690 I am not experiencing the lip sync issue with a Q9FN connected via the TV ARC to the Ambeo eARC using a Belkin Ultra High Speed HDMI cable. I'm speculating, but it could be an issue with the copy that you reviewed. I'd definitely recommend reaching out to Sennheiser to see if you can re-test with a different copy. Can you share the brands of the three panel manufactures and models that were tested with the bar?
@@danalus6016 We tested on an older Samsung TV, and new models from TCL and Hisense. Also tested another bar on those TVs to isolate the issue. I reached out to Sennheiser ahead of the review, but have not gotten any indication about an isolated issue. But very glad it's working for you!
That $2,500 can be put into a 7.1 surround or either a 5.1.4 or 7.1.2 Atmos/DTS:X Klipsch home theater speaker setup. If you still want a good Atmos/DTS:X soundbar, save a few hundred dollars and just get either the LG SL10YG or the Samsung Q90R.
@couldn't think of a username True dat but still. Why spend $2,500 for the Sennheiser when the LG SL10YG can be had for $1,000, the Samsung Q90R for $1,499, and the Nakamichi 9.2.4 SSE for $1,399. All three Atmos/DTS:X soundbars with performance just as good as the Sennheiser and much cheaper too.
@couldn't think of a username it is. It's got the sound projection capabilities of the Yamaha 5600 with musicality unrivalled in the soundbar market. It's huge & very heavy however & that put me off.
@@coloniellizardt4191 It is only an option to go with a full system when you have the space and the desire to do so. So people may not have that option.
Excellent review! Finally a soundbar that can rival/supplant the ML Vision soundbar! 4” drivers make such a huge difference. All other manufacturers need to take note!
ok i had a quick talk to the reviewer of the dutch magazine and this was his short and clear answer : - I did not read that review and I did not experience any latency problems, but I did speak to European colleagues who experienced the same thing. We concluded that the problem was with TVs. The solution was quickly found: the lip sync setting in the Sennheiser app makes it possible to tackle those latency problems.
@@ryanwaniata690 As he mentioned to not had any latency problems for his test of the unit so he did not use the app for that purpose. Problem may lay in the comptability with earc and arc of new tv units. The firmware update's may resolve these problems in the future. Fingers crossed.
"Best Sounding Soundbar You Probably Shouldn't Buy"...but is too big and heavy to shoplift! But seriously folks, coming from the 'vintage component audio' world (Sansui receiver/amp & Klipsch R41 speakers...etc) and planning a move overseas from US, (thereby needing to slim down the belongings), I was able to find one of these for $1900 US as a barely used demo unit. UP front I'll say that I'm NOT really a movie/TV guy, so this was meant to be the all-in-one AV solution, not a "home theatre". I was impressed by the audio specs/input options & the sheer number of cones on this thing. For the few months I had it before the move, I had a Polk Audio 12" sub attached and it (the Senn) was fed by my Mac using a 1/8" to stereo RCA cable. Lemme tell you...during party time, this thing SHOOK the building! Seriously. Whether it was classic rock, industrial, rap, classical or even Merzbow (if you don't know it, look it up!), this thing really rocks with no distortion. Sounds very clean, very lively & powerful. Now living in a high-rise flat with too many neighbours, I can no longer listen at wall-shaking volume, but that's ok because this beast sounds AWESOME even at a moderate volume & WITHOUT a sub. I was in fact surprised at how well and how deeply those six 4" woofers render bass. There were a few other options I'd considered before this (the Bang & Olufsen Beosound Stage or the iFi Aurora speaker) both of which I'm certain are great products, but I'm quite happy that I went the the Senn.
You are right. I had audition others soundbar such as the complete set of Sonos Arc, Samsung HW-Q950T, LG SN11RG and Ambeo is the most musical soundbar among all of them. If Sennheiser willing to develop a seperate independant rear unit with up-firing Dolby Atmos, IMHO this Ambeo may eventually become overall champ because the main soundbar itself come with a subwoofer pre-out that can connect to an external subwoofer such as the famous REL subwoofer. Since Ambeo itself and REL both character also bias to musical. Hope Sennheiser able to see this.
Primary function of a sound bar is to use it in conjunction with your tv. If there’s a latency issue when it’s used with a tv then It shouldn’t have been rolled out for consumer purchase.
Sound bar lip sync issues are usually caused by the TV. Why are you getting an Atmos sound bar if you’re going to run your sources through a TV without HDMI 2.1 anyway?
No soundbar can currently compare to the quality. I own this , after firmware update your good to go. Also , to complete the setup get a good sub. To get best quality you need eARC from your tv.
Hi I will like to buy this soundbar also. I have question about if it's make any sense to buy it for apartment building, and not a private house. Can i really use the potential of the soundbar without disturb the neighbors? Or it's just to much for apartment building?
as an Ambeo Owner now! there is no DELAY AT ALL! I also have Sony 4K TV in 2017 the X940e led, Creme de la creme of 2017 and it works great. I recommend this soundbar if money is no issue and if you want to use your own subwoofer! LOVE THIS SOUNDBAR! its sounds so beautiful Here's my take Dialogue is clear and accurate! it's not over boosted or saturated! its how you would hear dialogue if you were there in person! now it all depends on the mix! some movies just have terrible Dialogue but its very rare, and during action scenes dialogue is clear but also when its not clear its because of how it was more likely intended without vocals over boosted. You will hear and enjoy things in movies that you will never have heard before! and hear such substance! I love rewatching movies like Jurassic park, Matrix, and now I was rewatching black hawk down and I was astounded! the same with Saving Private Ryan! Then I was watching Kimi on HBO Max and I was just blown away by the clarity and just overall sound stage and presence! it is something you have to hear and experience! Having a Subwoofer is a must! you will enjoy this sound bar a lot! you will hear things in movie mixes that you never heard before! Also Ready Player One the car racing scene is just EPIC! I have a little demo I recorded with my Iphone 13 pro in 4k and the recording does not do its justice! you have to buy one and just experience it! The best sound I've heard and super super simple to setup! Here are Pros 1. Sound Stage is HUGE! Power is impressive, Volume is stellar, you can listen to this soundbar in low to high volumes and you will have an enjoyable experience. 2. Vocals sound natural and do not dominate the sound 3. Surround sound and sound bouncing off walls and ceiling is amazing! it is room dependent but its exceptional in my area 4. Real Speaker Drivers! there is no replacement for displacement and the same is with Speakers 5. It's Sennheiser! the make the best surround sound DSP for consumers 6. it comes with simple and well built controller 7. Able to use any subwoofer with a subwoofer out line, Stand alone subwoofers are always better than soundbars that are limited to their subwoofer 8. Music sounds amazing! super accurate and natural sounding! just as good as listening to 2.1 system 9. Ambeo 3D surround effects is super immersive. You will hear things you haven't heard before in many movies! 10. Different sound profiles and ability to change EQ settings for each one. 11. Having dedicated HDMI connections directly to the SOUNDBAR, being able to plug in your devices into the sound bar is huge! its non compressed and does not need to pass through ARC or EARC. So its able to push out the best CODEC without relying on our TV to process the sound codec. Cons 1. It's LARGE and HEAVY! you will more likely need another person to set this up! and I recommend mounting your TV to clear the soundbar size 2. App could be better, always have to reconnect to the bar if the app falls asleep on the phone 3. It always defaults to HDMI TV (EARC/ARC) when turning on majority of the time, so I have to use app or controller to change source to watch Xfinity 4k 4. It gets warm, so make sure you have enough room for it to breathe 5. Wish the speaker grill was magnetic so I can see the woofers in action 6. Your ears will get use to the sound and there is a break in period, it's impressive from the get go, but now dialogue is getting clearer and clearer as well as all the other details, or maybe my ears are getting more and more used to it. 7. Sennheiser Ambeo should release wireless rear speakers for us to truly experience a surround bubble, but it's not needed! but it would just be ICING on the cake! I highly recommend giving this Soundbar a Try! Sennheiser knows that they are doing! and the price is justified. I paid 2k since it was on sale a week or so ago and it's been amazing and I always look forward to watching movies, tv, youtube, etc.
Hi I will like to buy this soundbar also. I have question about if it's make any sense to buy it for apartment building, and not a private house. Can i really use the potential of the soundbar without disturb the neighbors? Or it's just to much for apartment building?
@@khshgsi you need private space or be in an apartment that has good noise isolation! You’re only going to enjoy it with some volume and a stand alone subwoofer
I have to disagree with you on the lip sync issues,, I recently bought the Sennheiser Ambeo and the Samsung Q85R, and when I watched Netflix via the built-in Tv app via the soundbar, I found NO issues at all. And since most people will watch tv via cable boxes or 4 k Blu ray player( which DEFINITELY has no issues either) so the point you are making is REDUNDANT. Just get a better tv?. If you are spending $2500 on a soundbar your tv needs to be at least the price or more than the soundbar to weed out inferior TVs with crappy connections as a starting point. Who the hell will buy a soundbar costing more than the TV, should be the other way round right?
So from reading your full review - it sounds like every TV that you connected it with was one without eARC compatibility, which means you'd be connecting the ARC port from your TV to the eARC of the Ambeo Soundbar. It kind of makes the "lip-sync" concern a moot point, as eARC supports mandatory lip-sync, making it a non-concern for newer sets. Pretty surprised that wasn't tested, or mentioned in this review.
It was! Look for the part where I talk about eARC and explain exactly that (around the 2:50 mark in the video and paragraph 11 in the review). Problem is that, as explained in both the review and the video, there aren't many TVs with eARC out there and it's also tough to mandate people buy a new TV to fix sync.
Ryan Waniata - Appreciate you taking some time to reply to my comment my man. It’s definitely true! Requiring someone to essentially buy a TV that will cost $2K+ in order for your $2.5K soundbar to work is a bit extravagant haha.
It’s typically caused by the TV... use the HDMI ports until you get a TV with HDMI 2.1. You can’t listen to Atmos/DTS:X if you run sources through the TV anyway...
Samuel Brownfield you can listen to Atmos and DTS X with eARC which 2019 Tvs brought into play. My 2019 Sony tv is Hdmi 2.0b but Sony made one of the ports eARC anyways. Now I haven’t tested how eARC exactly works if every device needs to be eARC compatible or if only the soundbar and the tv needs to be.
It's had an update . All issues fixed. Iam going to get it.The best sounding bar out there. I don't want separate speakers and wires all-around. You get want you pay for.
My Ambeo is connected yo 10 yr old Samsung TV with no ARC. Just normal Hdmi. Works great. All sources straight into bar Roku box and cd/dvd player and 1 cable out from Ambeo's eArc hdmi into TV hdmi. No issues at all even indicates on Smart App that Atmos signal coming from Roku box. Also, paired with Klipsch sub. Wonderful
Thanks for this review. i seen few month ago your review about the yamaha YSP5600 . as far as i ve heard, this is one of the best sound bar (5 chanel souround capable) for music and movies. maybe the old panorama 2 (i actually have). how do you compare this senheisser to the mentioned yamaha model? best regards
I ditched my soundbar and connected my Harmon Kardon Aura in right in the center of the room. It's better than HK's latest once and I connected it bluetooth to Alexa. So if I want to play the sound through the tv, I simply say, "Alexa disconnect" and it connect to the tv's sound (which is plugged/wired in direct to the HK Aura). It has a microphone so it acts as a second ear for Alexa.
hello and happy new year, I wanted to ask you for information about the possibility of inserting a svs sb 4000 subwoofer to the Sennheiser ambeo sb01 soundbar. do you think it is a good match or maybe it is too excessive? do you think that with the addition of this sub it can improve listening to movies? thank you in advance for your kind reply
Henry It’s a very good soundbar but because of the lack of hdr passthrough, it’s not a good deal to buy it at its retail price. I’d like to sell it and take the Ambeo instead...
2 scenarios. Soundbar used is ambeo and tv is SONY XR A95( XR-65A95K) 1. If I connect amazon firestick 4k to hdmi in of the soundbar and then tv's hdmi earc port with hdmi out of soundbar via hdmi 2.1 cable, the sound of, let's say a movie on Netflix, isn't that great. 2. I connect amazon firestick 4k to any hdmi in port of TV. Tv 's hdmi earc port remains connected to hdmi out (earc) port of soundbar via hdmi 2.1 cable. And then I play movies on Netflix app of firestick 4k. Sound is completely different and better. I tested ambeo with these. In the first setting, even ambeo didn't sound great. What are your thoughts?
I have a LG C9 with a Sonos bar and have the unfixable lip sync issue with the image ahead of audio. Googling reveal it's a long standing issue with LG OLED tv. It might be what they are experiencing.
One of the things I liked about the Yamaha was the different sound modes. It has a special mode that can enhance speech by using the "my beam" feature. My wife, who is not a native English speaker found this very useful. In fact, she doesn't like the other modes since, by comparison, the speech get's lost. Does the Ambeo have any special modes that could enhance speech?
Have you heard the bowers and Wilkins formation bar and how would you compare it with this one. I know for cinema this one is better, but music from the other I felt surpassed this one. Can you tweak this to get their sound quality? What do you think?
If there was no lip sync issue the sound bar would be pretty good i guess. Its just very over priced and does not come with a subwoofer? But he major thickness does make it seem like a good quality soundbar from that alone.
Nice review. Im curious how well it does with intermediate surround formats like dolby true hd and Dts-hd which youll find on the majorityon bluray movies and while not as advanced as the latent formats brings a substantial improvement in audio quality compared to the older dolby digital and dts. Atmos is backwards compatible off course but still, would be great to know if theres some compatibility issue or bigger drop in quality since the soundbar scene still is a bit ned and uncharted territory.
hello I would like to ask you if it is possible to connect a receiver to this soundbar and use the soundbar as a center speaker and front speakers. Thank you for your answer
Hi, thanks for the review. I’m considering a cinema system... would a Sonos playbar with a sub and two speakers at the back have the same “3D” sound - like all round sound as this? You mention like rain drops coming from over your head! Thanks in advance!
I went to listen to this yesterday at a local electronics store where the soundbar was placed in an ideal scenario - a small square room setup. I have a Sonos 5.1 setup with the Beam. The Ambeo sounded pretty good and it does sound considerably “3D” or surround-like for being a one bar solution, but not impressively so to the point where I thought that its worth $2500+ which is over $1,000 more than the Sonos setup. I think you still get much better surround with the Sonos rear speakers - it’s difficult to beat physical location - and dialogue was not very clear on the Ambeo but maybe one of the Ambeo settings could change that - they lost the remote. :) Dont think there’s any way I’ll drop $2,500 on this when my much cheaper Sonos setup sounds similar, comes with a sub and has individual components that can be replaced or upgraded. Hopefully Sonos will release an Atmos bar themselves soon to make it even better.
Can you please tell me if when listening to music on this with it set to music did you find that sound was mainly coming from the right sided speaker and the left side was a lot quiter
Ryan, Is there a way to work around having a TV that doesn't have E-ARC? Like can I hook up through an XBox or do I definitely have to have an E-ARC TV in order to get Atmos to work through one of these soundbars or the Samsung Q90R?
My Ambeo is connected yo 10 yr old Samsung TV with no ARC. Just normal Hdmi. Works great. All sources straight into bar Roku box and cd/dvd player and 1 cable out from Ambeo's eArc hdmi into TV hdmi. No issues at all even indicates on Smart App that Atmos signal coming from Roku box. Also, paired with Klipsch sub. Wonderful
I just picked up my Sennheiser for $2140 and I was wondering if you guys could do a video talking more about the different settings in the app from light to standard to boost in movie mode in particular and if there are any manual adjustments you guys find beneficial.... I’m trying to figure out what the differences are between the settings and what adjustments you can make for a more optimal experience. Eventually I’ll need to pick up a TV with eArc but till then I am running with an optical cable since I don’t believe anHDMI works. I’m trying to get that overhead affect but I think that comes with movies with Atmos Any feedback is greatly appreciated!
My Ambeo is connected to 10 yr old Samsung TV with no ARC connection... Just a normal Hdmi. Works great. All the sources straight into soundbar. The Roku box and cd/dvd player into the bar and then 1 cable out from Ambeo's eArc hdmi into the TV hdmi slot. No issues at all...it even indicates on Smart App and display on bar that Atmos signal is coming through from Roku box. Also, paired with Klipsch sub. Wonderful.
@@thenote2367 My Ambeo's been working really well..... I have it connected via normal HDMI as well since my TV doesn't have eARC, I have it connected to a REL Subwoofer and it sounds amazing.... as of late though the REL Sub has a much stronger bass then it usually does a little overwhelming and doesn't sound the best even though none of my settings on the sub changed so I'm in the process of seeing what's going on and fixing it; just happened out of the blue
@@justinrice1171 Cool. I was thinking of moving my small 10" Klipsch 100sw sub to basement and replacing with a REL sub. Paul at the PS Audio channel recommends REL subs for their nuance and musicality. May I ask, what kind of REL sub do you have ? I have an open floor plan with vaulted ceilings. By the way, what do you think of the recently updated Smart control app ? I preferred the old one . This new one won't download to my tablet. But it did download on my phone.
Any idea where the latency issue arises? (The sound signal lags the video, I'm figuring.) Is this the case with all interconnections or only HDMI? Was any comparison done to other audio outputs/inputs? Is this a TV issue or the soundbar? (Did they try any other TVs?) Any variability with the signal source (player, cable box, AppleTV box?) Was this present with Atmos-encoded material or others as well? Latency is certainly something that needs to be explained if not fixed, given the pricing expectations Sennheiser has established.
We're currently working further to find out more about how, when, and why the latency arises. It's something we're seeing crop up more in newer soundbars, and it's a complex issue that stems from both TVs and AV devices, making it extremely difficult to isolate. All AV devices will have some latency until eARC is standard (which will hopefully fix the issue for good), but it appears to be getting more notable with newer virtualization methods. We tested the Ambeo on three different TV brands (samsung, TCL, and Hisense), including new and old models. We will be continuing to test on more TVs, so please stay tuned. And thanks for your questions!
Ha! My Sonos Beam + 5.1 setup sounds Much better than the Sony HT-ST5000. Had the Sony for a week, sounded awful - flat and with very poor dialogue. Only so much you can do when you’re playing the center channel audio with one, tiny woofer.
Surely the sync issue can be fixed via firmware update. I'm no expert. My TV has setting to alter sound video sync option anyway. Whilst I take the point entirely that this shouldn't be an issue out of the box... Ambi missing something by suggesting your other hardware should be able to compensate?
Most TVs don't allow to slow video, only audio, so that's not a fix. As noted above, however, there is latency present in all AV devices. It's just that, as noted on Dolby's own website, it appears that it's becoming more notable with newer virtualization techniques. The fact that it is an issue that is compounded by both the TV and the AV device makes it more difficult to isolate, but we're currently undergoing more testing to see if it's less notable when using Ambeo in conjunction with higher-end TV models, etc. Stay tuned and thanks for your question!
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I have the same Bose 700 system with the rears and sub. It really sounds incredible. I would find it hard for the base on this system could compare to the dedicated sub. Did you end up buying one over the other?
Where did you get that latency thing from? You keep talking about it and you haven’t even demonstrated or showed it. I bought it and I have no latency whatsoever!
We can't really show latency in a video, unfortunately, as you can't record TV audio with a lapel mic very successfully. We tested it on three different TVs, all of which had the problem with this bar, and not with other bars so I can only reveal my experience. But I'm glad you're not having the issue!
Ryan Waniata latency, isn’t a lag or audio sync, if it’s the case so yes you can still show that subtitles or even the lip movement would be out of sync. Am I missing something?
@@ConClavi If we tried to show you the minor latency on a video, you'd also get latency from your own machine while viewing said video via TH-cam so it wouldn't be accurate. You'd have to see it in person, and since it is minor, even then it may not bother you.
Hi so I am looking to the sennheiser and add a sub woofer But I am also thinking of the bose 700 plus sub en 700 rears I heard a demo in an audio store the retailer played a Dolby atmos demo and I know bose has no Dolby atmos but it definitely created the atmos effect when I heard that leaf above me So what is your opinion the bose or sennheiser please help me 🙏
Buy bose 700 with bass module and surround. In ambeo there are no back sound effect which movies have 5.1 now days. Ambeo has more clarity but if you wanna hear sounds from rear.. bose is better ! I have both of them.
If someone is seriously considering a soundbar they're doing so because of its tiny footprint. It's a niche product trying to appeal to a mainstream audience. At that price, one could go with Q950's + center channel and be much better off.
Its a shame it does. Having experience with what this technology does, its well worth it. Conventional stereo, and even typical surround sound systems just wont be able to do what it does: Namely reproduce the actual _sound field_ itself and not just the sound. Without it, even the best speakers will not sound truly real down to how the auditory system processes sound. But Sennheiser likely has all the IP under lock and key so we wont see much out of this in the near future. That said, this is the next step in the evolution of sound reproduction. Even if its slightly broken I still want one so I can dissect it and take measurements to see how their implementation works. I suspect the latency is likely down to the large amount of DSP processing that's needed, not to mention other things that need to happen for it to work its magic.
So if I connect this to C9 which has eARC should I have lip sync issue or not, I didn't get that part right? If yes, where should I connect the sources, to the bar or to the TV to utilize this feature?
Worst product spin ever? Other reviewers have commented on the etched brightness and sibilant highs due to its metal dome tweeters. Great for movie dialogue and special effects like breaking glass but terrible for music. Did you even compare this to anything else in the $1,000 range?
I read one review that talked about that, and I happen to disagree. That said, if it is too sibilant for you, that's adjustable thanks to a four-band EQ in the app for any of the sound modes. There are tons of well-reviewed, high-performance speakers that use aluminum dome tweeters (including some of my favorite for the money, the SVS Prime Series www.digitaltrends.com/speaker-reviews/svs-prime-series-review/), so this alone is certainly not a recipe for sibilance or strident sound in the upper register. Moreover, most soundbars naturally offer more bite to the upper register than equivalently priced traditional speakers due to the size constraints and the amount of pressure put on their smaller drivers to reproduce all frequencies. Thanks to larger drivers, the Ambeo does better than the vast majority of soundbars I've heard in this department. It's all relative, of course, and sound is subjective so it could well be that the Ambeo isn't for you. For me, it sounds blissfully clear and full. I hope that clears things up. Thanks for watching!
Seriously no AptX??? I ended up impulse buying a Bose Smart Sound 300 Soundbar. It’s impressive for its size, but I refuse to further invest in an overpriced proprietary subwoofer and mediocre audio system. In the end I wall mounted my Audioengine HD3’s, and paired up using AptX Bluetooth... So far it’s the best I’ve heard, not impressed with soundbars whatsoever. Unfortunately I bought the Bose 300 from a smaller store, and their refund policy is absolute ****.
Can you explain how Nakamichi sends 9.2.4 sound to the tv and then to the soundbar. I would be very interested to know considering their are no codec or formats to do that as of yet.
How on earth was the latency not picked up during testing ? All the development and research has been completely undermined by releasing it whilst not perfect. They’ll end up discounting the hell out of these, even after the fix that’s hopefully coming
Just use the HDMI inputs... You shouldn’t even be getting this bar right now if you don’t plan to run your devices through the bar. ....Atmos/DTS:X does not carry through HDMI 2.0 ARC ports!
Secondly, The lip sync issues are typically caused by TVs. The bar plays the sound the second it receives it - many TVs are just often late in providing the sound to the bar. This is why the lip sync fix feature usually makes things worse - because the delay is coming from the TV itself. This bar isn’t an outlier - nearly every sound bar has issues with some number of TVs when running sources through the set. Some have already commented that they do not have a problem with their set as expected. Just run your devices through the bar until you get a TV with HDMI 2.1 which allows transmission of uncompressed audio....
@@rainergieringer7600 huh? No it's not, it still says "the best sounding sound bar you probably shouldn't buy??" still off and misleading just for clicks
Shame... I was actually looking to buy this. I know I can get a full out Atmos surround for less but I'm in the market for the best sound from the least amount of wiring possible. That's why a soundbar is better for me, just a shame this has that back breaker issue.
“Real detailed authentic Sennheiser sound”, now what is that? Sennheiser's product range before this one is 49,5 % headphones and 49,5 % microphones (plus a few other products). So what you are telling us is that this soundbar sounds like a pair of headphones?
@@ryanwaniata690 Thanks Ryan! I did get that but I'm not sure what a Sennheiser sound would be since all products have their own characteristics. But I appreciate the effort to describe the sound. Not an easy task : )
Right, and audiophiles know this, but one can buy a premium Atmos receiver and pay for professional custom speaker install at that price point for far less and be more aesthetically pleasing.
Sennheiser updated the Ambeo firmware to 1.0.237 and also overhauled the Smart Control App. It now supports not only Chromecast, but also Tidal Connect, Spotify Connect and Apple AirPlay 2. They really care about their products.
Did they sort out the lip sync issue?
@@ZeoKZ666 They did that a long time ago with update 1.0.16 in August 2019.
@@ROCCATEER92 Thanks for replying on that. Im moving houses in 4 months and am looking to buy this soundbar.
Only fear I have is that 2 months later they will announce a newer version. But on the other hand, when it comes to tech, there will always be something newer.
@@ZeoKZ666 I mean a new Bar doesn’t make old sound worst (:
Don't you think you should have updated the title and at least noted in the comments that there was a firmware update a long time ago that solved the latency issue...? As you can see from the comments, people who watch this old review are not aware of that fact.
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oh nice! thanks mate
I have this soundbar running with my Sony 75” X950G and I don’t have these issues. I spent a day going around Sydney checking soundbars and getting them to demo them for me I ended up choosing the Sennheiser. When I first set it up with my tv I was blown away with the amount of sound filling the room and it dose amazing job of up mixing 5.1 we are watching old movies now with it. Love it!
damn..nice setup you got there
trippplefive thanks
Your TV has eARC, probably that's why it works well. I wonder which TV models were tested with the bar that had the latency issue. It isn't mentioned in the video and the full review.
Edward Chung They certainly didn’t test TVs with HDMI 2.1. A TV with HDMI 2.0 ARC can’t even pass through 3D sound formats so it’d be moronic not to plug your sources into the bar.
My Ambeo is connected yo 10 yr old Samsung TV with no ARC. Just normal Hdmi. Works great. All sources straight into bar Roku box and cd/dvd player and 1 cable out from Ambeo's eArc hdmi into TV hdmi. No issues at all even indicates on Smart App that Atmos signal coming from Roku box. Also, paired with Klipsch sub. Wonderful
If it has lip sync issues, all the bells and whistles aren't going to make up for that no matter how good it sounds.
The latency issue was fixed a while back
@@dylant4808 how?
@@i_got_worms7106 A firmware update in August of 2019 fixed the "issue".
No latency issues with mine. My Ambeo is connected yo 10 yr old Samsung TV with no ARC. Just normal Hdmi. Works great. All sources straight into bar Roku box and cd/dvd player and 1 cable out from Ambeo's eArc hdmi into TV hdmi. No issues at all even indicates on Smart App that Atmos signal coming from Roku box. Also, paired with Klipsch sub. Wonderful
@@thenote2367 He clearly said the is if your sound is coming from the tv to the soundbar.....that is if u are using eARC/ARC from your tv to send sound the soundbar. Since u connected all your sources directly to the soundbar....you don't have latency issues.
I've been using mine for about a week now. It's connected to a Sammy 75Q9FN via ARC to the Ambeo's eARC...no lip sync issues at all viewing from Netflix, prime Video, FIOS TV or my Xbox1x. Expensive, but excellent sound for movies and music in a single package.
And even If there WERE lip sync issues, isn't there a button on the remote to tackle this problem?
@@matthiasv.5469 Yes, from the Sennheiser Smart Control app, you select input settings under source and there is a lip sync adjustment range of 1ms through 100ms.
@@danalus6016 Unfortunately, this only further delays audio so it won't fix the issue we experienced.
@@ryanwaniata690 I am not experiencing the lip sync issue with a Q9FN connected via the TV ARC to the Ambeo eARC using a Belkin Ultra High Speed HDMI cable. I'm speculating, but it could be an issue with the copy that you reviewed. I'd definitely recommend reaching out to Sennheiser to see if you can re-test with a different copy. Can you share the brands of the three panel manufactures and models that were tested with the bar?
@@danalus6016 We tested on an older Samsung TV, and new models from TCL and Hisense. Also tested another bar on those TVs to isolate the issue. I reached out to Sennheiser ahead of the review, but have not gotten any indication about an isolated issue. But very glad it's working for you!
That $2,500 can be put into a 7.1 surround or either a 5.1.4 or 7.1.2 Atmos/DTS:X Klipsch home theater speaker setup. If you still want a good Atmos/DTS:X soundbar, save a few hundred dollars and just get either the LG SL10YG or the Samsung Q90R.
Agree , i dont really see them to many people these
Lol sorry i dont really see to many people buying this soundbar i was at work,typing at the same time working
@couldn't think of a username True dat but still. Why spend $2,500 for the Sennheiser when the LG SL10YG can be had for $1,000, the Samsung Q90R for $1,499, and the Nakamichi 9.2.4 SSE for $1,399. All three Atmos/DTS:X soundbars with performance just as good as the Sennheiser and much cheaper too.
@couldn't think of a username it is. It's got the sound projection capabilities of the Yamaha 5600 with musicality unrivalled in the soundbar market. It's huge & very heavy however & that put me off.
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It is only an option to go with a full system when you have the space and the desire to do so. So people may not have that option.
Excellent review! Finally a soundbar that can rival/supplant the ML Vision soundbar! 4” drivers make such a huge difference. All other manufacturers need to take note!
ok i had a quick talk to the reviewer of the dutch magazine and this was his short and clear answer :
- I did not read that review and I did not experience any latency problems, but I did speak to European colleagues who experienced the same thing. We concluded that the problem was with TVs. The solution was quickly found: the lip sync setting in the Sennheiser app makes it possible to tackle those latency problems.
The lip sync setting in the app unfortunately only delays audio further, so not a solution.
@@ryanwaniata690 As he mentioned to not had any latency problems for his test of the unit so he did not use the app for that purpose. Problem may lay in the comptability with earc and arc of new tv units. The firmware update's may resolve these problems in the future. Fingers crossed.
"Best Sounding Soundbar You Probably Shouldn't Buy"...but is too big and heavy to shoplift! But seriously folks, coming from the 'vintage component audio' world (Sansui receiver/amp & Klipsch R41 speakers...etc) and planning a move overseas from US, (thereby needing to slim down the belongings), I was able to find one of these for $1900 US as a barely used demo unit. UP front I'll say that I'm NOT really a movie/TV guy, so this was meant to be the all-in-one AV solution, not a "home theatre". I was impressed by the audio specs/input options & the sheer number of cones on this thing. For the few months I had it before the move, I had a Polk Audio 12" sub attached and it (the Senn) was fed by my Mac using a 1/8" to stereo RCA cable. Lemme tell you...during party time, this thing SHOOK the building! Seriously. Whether it was classic rock, industrial, rap, classical or even Merzbow (if you don't know it, look it up!), this thing really rocks with no distortion. Sounds very clean, very lively & powerful. Now living in a high-rise flat with too many neighbours, I can no longer listen at wall-shaking volume, but that's ok because this beast sounds AWESOME even at a moderate volume & WITHOUT a sub. I was in fact surprised at how well and how deeply those six 4" woofers render bass. There were a few other options I'd considered before this (the Bang & Olufsen Beosound Stage or the iFi Aurora speaker) both of which I'm certain are great products, but I'm quite happy that I went the the Senn.
You are right. I had audition others soundbar such as the complete set of Sonos Arc, Samsung HW-Q950T, LG SN11RG and Ambeo is the most musical soundbar among all of them. If Sennheiser willing to develop a seperate independant rear unit with up-firing Dolby Atmos, IMHO this Ambeo may eventually become overall champ because the main soundbar itself come with a subwoofer pre-out that can connect to an external subwoofer such as the famous REL subwoofer. Since Ambeo itself and REL both character also bias to musical. Hope Sennheiser able to see this.
I would like to know how this holds up to the B&O Beosound Stage.
Primary function of a sound bar is to use it in conjunction with your tv. If there’s a latency issue when it’s used with a tv then It shouldn’t have been rolled out for consumer purchase.
Sound bar lip sync issues are usually caused by the TV. Why are you getting an Atmos sound bar if you’re going to run your sources through a TV without HDMI 2.1 anyway?
No soundbar can currently compare to the quality. I own this , after firmware update your good to go. Also , to complete the setup get a good sub. To get best quality you need eARC from your tv.
Hi
I will like to buy this soundbar also.
I have question about if it's make any sense to buy it for apartment building, and not a private house. Can i really use the potential of the soundbar without disturb the neighbors? Or it's just to much for apartment building?
as an Ambeo Owner now! there is no DELAY AT ALL! I also have Sony 4K TV in 2017 the X940e led, Creme
de la creme of 2017 and it works great.
I recommend this soundbar if money is no issue and if you want to use your own subwoofer! LOVE THIS SOUNDBAR! its sounds so beautiful
Here's my take
Dialogue is clear and accurate! it's not over boosted or saturated! its how you would hear dialogue if you were there in person! now it all depends on the mix! some movies just have terrible Dialogue but its very rare, and during action scenes dialogue is clear but also when its not clear its because of how it was more likely intended without vocals over boosted. You will hear and enjoy things in movies that you will never have heard before! and hear such substance! I love rewatching movies like Jurassic park, Matrix, and now I was rewatching black hawk down and I was astounded! the same with Saving Private Ryan! Then I was watching Kimi on HBO Max and I was just blown away by the clarity and just overall sound stage and presence! it is something you have to hear and experience! Having a Subwoofer is a must! you will enjoy this sound bar a lot! you will hear things in movie mixes that you never heard before!
Also Ready Player One the car racing scene is just EPIC! I have a little demo I recorded with my Iphone 13 pro in 4k and the recording does not do its justice! you have to buy one and just experience it!
The best sound I've heard and super super simple to setup!
Here are Pros
1. Sound Stage is HUGE! Power is impressive, Volume is stellar, you can listen to this soundbar in low to high volumes and you will have an enjoyable experience.
2. Vocals sound natural and do not dominate the sound
3. Surround sound and sound bouncing off walls and ceiling is amazing! it is room dependent but its exceptional in my area
4. Real Speaker Drivers! there is no replacement for displacement and the same is with Speakers
5. It's Sennheiser! the make the best surround sound DSP for consumers
6. it comes with simple and well built controller
7. Able to use any subwoofer with a subwoofer out line, Stand alone subwoofers are always better than soundbars that are limited to their subwoofer
8. Music sounds amazing! super accurate and natural sounding! just as good as listening to 2.1 system
9. Ambeo 3D surround effects is super immersive. You will hear things you haven't heard before in many movies!
10. Different sound profiles and ability to change EQ settings for each one.
11. Having dedicated HDMI connections directly to the SOUNDBAR, being able to plug in your devices into the sound bar is huge! its non compressed and does not need to pass through ARC or EARC. So its able to push out the best CODEC without relying on our TV to process the sound codec.
Cons
1. It's LARGE and HEAVY! you will more likely need another person to set this up! and I recommend mounting your TV to clear the soundbar size
2. App could be better, always have to reconnect to the bar if the app falls asleep on the phone
3. It always defaults to HDMI TV (EARC/ARC) when turning on majority of the time, so I have to use app or controller to change source to watch Xfinity 4k
4. It gets warm, so make sure you have enough room for it to breathe
5. Wish the speaker grill was magnetic so I can see the woofers in action
6. Your ears will get use to the sound and there is a break in period, it's impressive from the get go, but now dialogue is getting clearer and clearer as well as all the other details, or maybe my ears are getting more and more used to it.
7. Sennheiser Ambeo should release wireless rear speakers for us to truly experience a surround bubble, but it's not needed! but it would just be ICING on the cake!
I highly recommend giving this Soundbar a Try! Sennheiser knows that they are doing! and the price is justified. I paid 2k since it was on sale a week or so ago and it's been amazing and I always look forward to watching movies, tv, youtube, etc.
Hi
I will like to buy this soundbar also.
I have question about if it's make any sense to buy it for apartment building, and not a private house. Can i really use the potential of the soundbar without disturb the neighbors? Or it's just to much for apartment building?
@@khshgsi you need private space or be in an apartment that has good noise isolation! You’re only going to enjoy it with some volume and a stand alone subwoofer
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You mean you recommend to buy with it subwoofer? Cous senhizer just make one
@@khshgsi that new sennheiser subwoofer I don’t think 🤔 it’s compatible with the sennheiser ambeo aka ambeo max
@@KuyaArbee
Why not?
They also make a new soundbar ambeo plus 7.1
has the latency issue been resolved in firmware? 👀
I have to disagree with you on the lip sync issues,, I recently bought the Sennheiser Ambeo and the Samsung Q85R, and when I watched Netflix via the built-in Tv app via the soundbar, I found NO issues at all. And since most people will watch tv via cable boxes or 4 k Blu ray player( which DEFINITELY has no issues either) so the point you are making is REDUNDANT. Just get a better tv?. If you are spending $2500 on a soundbar your tv needs to be at least the price or more than the soundbar to weed out inferior TVs with crappy connections as a starting point. Who the hell will buy a soundbar costing more than the TV, should be the other way round right?
not really a good sound system will most the time cost more then the tv 🤷♂️🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
@@marcfavell yeah I think a good 75 inch for 800 dollars is fine....
So from reading your full review - it sounds like every TV that you connected it with was one without eARC compatibility, which means you'd be connecting the ARC port from your TV to the eARC of the Ambeo Soundbar. It kind of makes the "lip-sync" concern a moot point, as eARC supports mandatory lip-sync, making it a non-concern for newer sets. Pretty surprised that wasn't tested, or mentioned in this review.
It was! Look for the part where I talk about eARC and explain exactly that (around the 2:50 mark in the video and paragraph 11 in the review). Problem is that, as explained in both the review and the video, there aren't many TVs with eARC out there and it's also tough to mandate people buy a new TV to fix sync.
Ryan Waniata - Appreciate you taking some time to reply to my comment my man. It’s definitely true! Requiring someone to essentially buy a TV that will cost $2K+ in order for your $2.5K soundbar to work is a bit extravagant haha.
Do you think the Best Buy Magnolia stores will carry this? Would love to give it a listen.
have they fixed the latency issue by 2023 ? thinking about upgrading to a more audiophile high fidelity soundbar
It's unacceptable for ANY soundbar to present latency and even worse for a $2500 one!
It’s typically caused by the TV... use the HDMI ports until you get a TV with HDMI 2.1. You can’t listen to Atmos/DTS:X if you run sources through the TV anyway...
Samuel Brownfield you can listen to Atmos and DTS X with eARC which 2019 Tvs brought into play. My 2019 Sony tv is Hdmi 2.0b but Sony made one of the ports eARC anyways. Now I haven’t tested how eARC exactly works if every device needs to be eARC compatible or if only the soundbar and the tv needs to be.
It's had an update . All issues fixed. Iam going to get it.The best sounding bar out there. I don't want separate speakers and wires all-around. You get want you pay for.
My Ambeo is connected yo 10 yr old Samsung TV with no ARC. Just normal Hdmi. Works great. All sources straight into bar Roku box and cd/dvd player and 1 cable out from Ambeo's eArc hdmi into TV hdmi. No issues at all even indicates on Smart App that Atmos signal coming from Roku box. Also, paired with Klipsch sub. Wonderful
Thanks for this review. i seen few month ago your review about the yamaha YSP5600 . as far as i ve heard, this is one of the best sound bar (5 chanel souround capable) for music and movies. maybe the old panorama 2 (i actually have). how do you compare this senheisser to the mentioned yamaha model? best regards
I ditched my soundbar and connected my Harmon Kardon Aura in right in the center of the room. It's better than HK's latest once and I connected it bluetooth to Alexa. So if I want to play the sound through the tv, I simply say, "Alexa disconnect" and it connect to the tv's sound (which is plugged/wired in direct to the HK Aura). It has a microphone so it acts as a second ear for Alexa.
hello and happy new year, I wanted to ask you for information about the possibility of inserting a svs sb 4000 subwoofer to the Sennheiser ambeo sb01 soundbar. do you think it is a good match or maybe it is too excessive? do you think that with the addition of this sub it can improve listening to movies? thank you in advance for your kind reply
In light of the latency issue one does wonder how this was allowed to leave the factory.
@@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear Not my YSP 5600
@@hanonimat1844 How does it sound?
Henry It’s a very good soundbar but because of the lack of hdr passthrough, it’s not a good deal to buy it at its retail price. I’d like to sell it and take the Ambeo instead...
@@HenryTheBoilermaker3rdYear. Mine dont
It should be one of the first things they test. Latency should be at the top of list, even slight latency is frustrating.
I really appreciate your review…. I would like to know whether we can give input (7.1) from any Digital Audio Work station? like ProTools etc?
2 scenarios. Soundbar used is ambeo and tv is SONY XR A95( XR-65A95K)
1. If I connect amazon firestick 4k to hdmi in of the soundbar and then tv's hdmi earc port with hdmi out of soundbar via hdmi 2.1 cable, the sound of, let's say a movie on Netflix, isn't that great.
2. I connect amazon firestick 4k to any hdmi in port of TV. Tv 's hdmi earc port remains connected to hdmi out (earc) port of soundbar via hdmi 2.1 cable. And then I play movies on Netflix app of firestick 4k. Sound is completely different and better.
I tested ambeo with these. In the first setting, even ambeo didn't sound great. What are your thoughts?
I really want to know how it compares to the Yamaha YSP-5600 Digital Sound Projector
I dont know the difference but i love my ysp 5600
Nothing about about "you probably shouldn't buy" it's all about how good this soundbar really is
Gotta love clickbait, so arguably the best soundbar is one you shouldn’t buy lol
It would have been really nice to have seen it mounted and to know if it comes with the mount which it should given the price.
I have a LG C9 with a Sonos bar and have the unfixable lip sync issue with the image ahead of audio. Googling reveal it's a long standing issue with LG OLED tv. It might be what they are experiencing.
I'd love to see someone do a video on the Sennheiser Ambeo Max vs the Samsung Q990b (can't find one anywhere online).
I'm trying to choose between the Sennheiser Ambeo, Sonos Arc, and an actual Focal sib evo surround sound. What would you think is the best choice?
Did the TV have an eARC port also?
One of the things I liked about the Yamaha was the different sound modes. It has a special mode that can enhance speech by using the "my beam" feature. My wife, who is not a native English speaker found this very useful. In fact, she doesn't like the other modes since, by comparison, the speech get's lost. Does the Ambeo have any special modes that could enhance speech?
Have you heard the bowers and Wilkins formation bar and how would you compare it with this one. I know for cinema this one is better, but music from the other I felt surpassed this one. Can you tweak this to get their sound quality? What do you think?
The background music gives me anxiety. I rarely experience anxiety 😳
Great Review! Kindly do a review for the Nakamichi 9.2 SSE. Thanks.
Peterson Wanyoike ha! It must be made from Aldi stores. Gladly it ain’t coming to Australia
How does this soundbar compare to the Nakamichi Shockwave Ultra 9.2.4 SSE Soundbar?
Read a few reviews no one noted the lip-sync issues? Oh well going to demo this by my local dealer anyway before making a decision.
If there was no lip sync issue the sound bar would be pretty good i guess. Its just very over priced and does not come with a subwoofer? But he major thickness does make it seem like a good quality soundbar from that alone.
Any news on rear channel addition on this one? It would be steel if that happens.
Has the latency issue been fixed yet?
Nice review. Im curious how well it does with intermediate surround formats like dolby true hd and Dts-hd which youll find on the majorityon bluray movies and while not as advanced as the latent formats brings a substantial improvement in audio quality compared to the older dolby digital and dts. Atmos is backwards compatible off course but still, would be great to know if theres some compatibility issue or bigger drop in quality since the soundbar scene still is a bit ned and uncharted territory.
I forgot my room and 27 mt 3 do you think that the svs sb 4000 subwoofer is too excessive or is it ideal for this size?
Would a wireless interface work with the sub input/output cable port?
hello I would like to ask you if it is possible to connect a receiver to this soundbar and use the soundbar as a center speaker and front speakers. Thank you for your answer
Hi, thanks for the review. I’m considering a cinema system... would a Sonos playbar with a sub and two speakers at the back have the same “3D” sound - like all round sound as this? You mention like rain drops coming from over your head! Thanks in advance!
I went to listen to this yesterday at a local electronics store where the soundbar was placed in an ideal scenario - a small square room setup. I have a Sonos 5.1 setup with the Beam. The Ambeo sounded pretty good and it does sound considerably “3D” or surround-like for being a one bar solution, but not impressively so to the point where I thought that its worth $2500+ which is over $1,000 more than the Sonos setup. I think you still get much better surround with the Sonos rear speakers - it’s difficult to beat physical location - and dialogue was not very clear on the Ambeo but maybe one of the Ambeo settings could change that - they lost the remote. :) Dont think there’s any way I’ll drop $2,500 on this when my much cheaper Sonos setup sounds similar, comes with a sub and has individual components that can be replaced or upgraded. Hopefully Sonos will release an Atmos bar themselves soon to make it even better.
Samuel Brownfield thanks for your reply bro
Samuel Brownfield and they did. Sonos Arc !
Can you please tell me if when listening to music on this with it set to music did you find that sound was mainly coming from the right sided speaker and the left side was a lot quiter
Ryan does the Senniheier Ambeo movie performance better the Sony HT 5000 soundbar ?. Great review thanks .
Ryan,
Is there a way to work around having a TV that doesn't have E-ARC?
Like can I hook up through an XBox or do I definitely have to have an E-ARC TV in order to get Atmos to work through one of these soundbars or the Samsung Q90R?
My Ambeo is connected yo 10 yr old Samsung TV with no ARC. Just normal Hdmi. Works great. All sources straight into bar Roku box and cd/dvd player and 1 cable out from Ambeo's eArc hdmi into TV hdmi. No issues at all even indicates on Smart App that Atmos signal coming from Roku box. Also, paired with Klipsch sub. Wonderful
All I needed to hear was "lip sync issue" and I was officially done. Hopefully 2020 will bring some improvements in that department.
I just picked up my Sennheiser for $2140 and I was wondering if you guys could do a video talking more about the different settings in the app from light to standard to boost in movie mode in particular and if there are any manual adjustments you guys find beneficial.... I’m trying to figure out what the differences are between the settings and what adjustments you can make for a more optimal experience.
Eventually I’ll need to pick up a TV with eArc but till then I am running with an optical cable since I don’t believe anHDMI works. I’m trying to get that overhead affect but I think that comes with movies with Atmos
Any feedback is greatly appreciated!
My Ambeo is connected to 10 yr old Samsung TV with no ARC connection... Just a normal Hdmi. Works great. All the sources straight into soundbar. The Roku box and cd/dvd player into the bar and then 1 cable out from Ambeo's eArc hdmi into the TV hdmi slot. No issues at all...it even indicates on Smart App and display on bar that Atmos signal is coming through from Roku box. Also, paired with Klipsch sub. Wonderful.
@@thenote2367 My Ambeo's been working really well..... I have it connected via normal HDMI as well since my TV doesn't have eARC, I have it connected to a REL Subwoofer and it sounds amazing.... as of late though the REL Sub has a much stronger bass then it usually does a little overwhelming and doesn't sound the best even though none of my settings on the sub changed so I'm in the process of seeing what's going on and fixing it; just happened out of the blue
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Cool. I was thinking of moving my small 10" Klipsch 100sw sub to basement and replacing with a REL sub. Paul at the PS Audio channel recommends REL subs for their nuance and musicality. May I ask, what kind of REL sub do you have ? I have an open floor plan with vaulted ceilings. By the way, what do you think of the recently updated Smart control app ? I preferred the old one . This new one won't download to my tablet. But it did download on my phone.
Any idea where the latency issue arises? (The sound signal lags the video, I'm figuring.) Is this the case with all interconnections or only HDMI? Was any comparison done to other audio outputs/inputs? Is this a TV issue or the soundbar? (Did they try any other TVs?) Any variability with the signal source (player, cable box, AppleTV box?) Was this present with Atmos-encoded material or others as well? Latency is certainly something that needs to be explained if not fixed, given the pricing expectations Sennheiser has established.
We're currently working further to find out more about how, when, and why the latency arises. It's something we're seeing crop up more in newer soundbars, and it's a complex issue that stems from both TVs and AV devices, making it extremely difficult to isolate. All AV devices will have some latency until eARC is standard (which will hopefully fix the issue for good), but it appears to be getting more notable with newer virtualization methods. We tested the Ambeo on three different TV brands (samsung, TCL, and Hisense), including new and old models. We will be continuing to test on more TVs, so please stay tuned. And thanks for your questions!
How does it compare to Sony HT-ST5000? Have you tried to ask Sennheiser if they are aware of the syn issue?
Babak H. I guarantee the ST5000 is hands down the best bar to date. Price point and quality of sound. Trust me. And it’s from 2017.
Ha! My Sonos Beam + 5.1 setup sounds Much better than the Sony HT-ST5000. Had the Sony for a week, sounded awful - flat and with very poor dialogue. Only so much you can do when you’re playing the center channel audio with one, tiny woofer.
So you say that there is a delay in sound when sources from TV but you don´t show an example, that makes no sense.
How does this compare to the Yamaha YSP5600 ?? Thank you
Surely the sync issue can be fixed via firmware update. I'm no expert. My TV has setting to alter sound video sync option anyway. Whilst I take the point entirely that this shouldn't be an issue out of the box... Ambi missing something by suggesting your other hardware should be able to compensate?
Most TVs don't allow to slow video, only audio, so that's not a fix. As noted above, however, there is latency present in all AV devices. It's just that, as noted on Dolby's own website, it appears that it's becoming more notable with newer virtualization techniques. The fact that it is an issue that is compounded by both the TV and the AV device makes it more difficult to isolate, but we're currently undergoing more testing to see if it's less notable when using Ambeo in conjunction with higher-end TV models, etc. Stay tuned and thanks for your question!
I have no problem with lyp sinc with my ambeo
Bose soundbar 900 Vs Ambeo which one we can go for?
Boa Noite amigo
Quanto que Custa está Sond Bar?
Qual é o Modelo de 2023 é também quanto que Custa ?
Grande abraço de Toda à Galera do Rio de Janeiro no Brasil
I have a bose 700. Will need another one for my basement. Wondering how ambeo fair against bose 700?
It utterly destroys it. ;)
I have the same Bose 700 system with the rears and sub. It really sounds incredible. I would find it hard for the base on this system could compare to the dedicated sub. Did you end up buying one over the other?
Where did you get that latency thing from? You keep talking about it and you haven’t even demonstrated or showed it.
I bought it and I have no latency whatsoever!
We can't really show latency in a video, unfortunately, as you can't record TV audio with a lapel mic very successfully. We tested it on three different TVs, all of which had the problem with this bar, and not with other bars so I can only reveal my experience. But I'm glad you're not having the issue!
Ryan Waniata latency, isn’t a lag or audio sync, if it’s the case so yes you can still show that subtitles or even the lip movement would be out of sync. Am I missing something?
@@ConClavi If we tried to show you the minor latency on a video, you'd also get latency from your own machine while viewing said video via TH-cam so it wouldn't be accurate. You'd have to see it in person, and since it is minor, even then it may not bother you.
Can you add (Samsung) rear atmos wireless speakers and connect via bluetooth ?
Why is the "Ambeo" light so bright, very annoying?
Can you please review the Creative Sonic Carrier X-Fi soundbar and compare it with Ambeo and give us your feedback? Thanks.
So why not get it again, given latency issue is fixed?
Hi so I am looking to the sennheiser and add a sub woofer
But I am also thinking of the bose 700 plus sub en 700 rears I heard a demo in an audio store the retailer played a Dolby atmos demo and I know bose has no Dolby atmos but it definitely created the atmos effect when I heard that leaf above me
So what is your opinion the bose or sennheiser please help me 🙏
Buy bose 700 with bass module and surround. In ambeo there are no back sound effect which movies have 5.1 now days. Ambeo has more clarity but if you wanna hear sounds from rear.. bose is better ! I have both of them.
If someone is seriously considering a soundbar they're doing so because of its tiny footprint. It's a niche product trying to appeal to a mainstream audience. At that price, one could go with Q950's + center channel and be much better off.
Its a shame it does. Having experience with what this technology does, its well worth it. Conventional stereo, and even typical surround sound systems just wont be able to do what it does: Namely reproduce the actual _sound field_ itself and not just the sound. Without it, even the best speakers will not sound truly real down to how the auditory system processes sound. But Sennheiser likely has all the IP under lock and key so we wont see much out of this in the near future. That said, this is the next step in the evolution of sound reproduction. Even if its slightly broken I still want one so I can dissect it and take measurements to see how their implementation works. I suspect the latency is likely down to the large amount of DSP processing that's needed, not to mention other things that need to happen for it to work its magic.
how does it compare to those kefs?
What about yamaha ysp 5600 soundbar?
So if I connect this to C9 which has eARC should I have lip sync issue or not, I didn't get that part right?
If yes, where should I connect the sources, to the bar or to the TV to utilize this feature?
MrMilanina People who own it say that the issue with ARC, not eARC.
@@Starplatinium So C9 it is :)
Thanks.
Worst product spin ever? Other reviewers have commented on the etched brightness and sibilant highs due to its metal dome tweeters. Great for movie dialogue and special effects like breaking glass but terrible for music. Did you even compare this to anything else in the $1,000 range?
I read one review that talked about that, and I happen to disagree. That said, if it is too sibilant for you, that's adjustable thanks to a four-band EQ in the app for any of the sound modes. There are tons of well-reviewed, high-performance speakers that use aluminum dome tweeters (including some of my favorite for the money, the SVS Prime Series www.digitaltrends.com/speaker-reviews/svs-prime-series-review/), so this alone is certainly not a recipe for sibilance or strident sound in the upper register. Moreover, most soundbars naturally offer more bite to the upper register than equivalently priced traditional speakers due to the size constraints and the amount of pressure put on their smaller drivers to reproduce all frequencies. Thanks to larger drivers, the Ambeo does better than the vast majority of soundbars I've heard in this department. It's all relative, of course, and sound is subjective so it could well be that the Ambeo isn't for you. For me, it sounds blissfully clear and full. I hope that clears things up. Thanks for watching!
Seriously no AptX??? I ended up impulse buying a Bose Smart Sound 300 Soundbar. It’s impressive for its size, but I refuse to further invest in an overpriced proprietary subwoofer and mediocre audio system.
In the end I wall mounted my Audioengine HD3’s, and paired up using AptX Bluetooth... So far it’s the best I’ve heard, not impressed with soundbars whatsoever.
Unfortunately I bought the Bose 300 from a smaller store, and their refund policy is absolute ****.
Nakamichi 9.2.4 is 1.2k and has no issues. At 2.5k senheisser needs to get their s... together.
Can you explain how Nakamichi sends 9.2.4 sound to the tv and then to the soundbar. I would be very interested to know considering their are no codec or formats to do that as of yet.
Even if it had no issues with latency, I wouldn't buy something that frigging big.
No subwoofers? No rear speakers? 😓
couldn't think of a username how? Can U pls elaborate details? Thanks in advance
$4000 for just a soundbar. Oh dear
How on earth was the latency not picked up during testing ? All the development and research has been completely undermined by releasing it whilst not perfect. They’ll end up discounting the hell out of these, even after the fix that’s hopefully coming
Because right now the technology does not exist for dolby atmos to be passed through the TV.
is it better now?
@@chiki2273 I’m sorry I don’t know , but I’m sure a retailer that is demoing it could tell you
Bruh, 2500 bucks with lip sync issues?
why is no one doing a comparison between Bose soundbar 900 & Sennheiser Ambeo???
No physical rear channels otherwise it would be on my list, come on Nakamichi, get that Dragon out!
For that level of cost I would rather go with a full surround sound system.
If you have the space that allows you then do it other wise this maybe the only option.
Just use the HDMI inputs... You shouldn’t even be getting this bar right now if you don’t plan to run your devices through the bar. ....Atmos/DTS:X does not carry through HDMI 2.0 ARC ports!
Secondly, The lip sync issues are typically caused by TVs. The bar plays the sound the second it receives it - many TVs are just often late in providing the sound to the bar. This is why the lip sync fix feature usually makes things worse - because the delay is coming from the TV itself. This bar isn’t an outlier - nearly every sound bar has issues with some number of TVs when running sources through the set. Some have already commented that they do not have a problem with their set as expected. Just run your devices through the bar until you get a TV with HDMI 2.1 which allows transmission of uncompressed audio....
You're doing a diservice to Sennheiser by keeping this up or not amending the title, I almost clicked out before reading the comments.
Did they fix it?
Yes it’s fixed
@@rainergieringer7600 huh? No it's not, it still says "the best sounding sound bar you probably shouldn't buy??" still off and misleading just for clicks
Terry Uy I meant sennheiser fixed the issue.
@@rainergieringer7600 oh ok thanks! sorry i misunderstood what you meant
Come on yamaha ysp 5100 was doing this 7 years ago...and the current replacement for 5100 is doing still..........
Shame... I was actually looking to buy this. I know I can get a full out Atmos surround for less but I'm in the market for the best sound from the least amount of wiring possible. That's why a soundbar is better for me, just a shame this has that back breaker issue.
I call it the "not too many wires or my wife won't let me get one" issue...
Nobody connects a dolby atmos sound system via a TV. It makes no sense.
So this is totally not for video game consoles. For video game we need the sound to be in sync
$1699 This is the only soundbar that even has a shot at quality sound.
No sound-bar should have lip sync issues, end of story. That’s a fail and and an expensive one at that.
is sennheiser ambeo better than JBL BAR 9.1?
Anybody know about that lip sync lag issue? I was going to buy this but now I’m not sure. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Hi, I updated the firmware while installing and no issue at all. Works perfect
“Real detailed authentic Sennheiser sound”, now what is that? Sennheiser's product range before this one is 49,5 % headphones and 49,5 % microphones (plus a few other products).
So what you are telling us is that this soundbar sounds like a pair of headphones?
I'm referring to the sound signature.
@@ryanwaniata690 Thanks Ryan! I did get that but I'm not sure what a Sennheiser sound would be since all products have their own characteristics. But I appreciate the effort to describe the sound. Not an easy task : )
corner liston Search for Ambeo 3d test, put a headset on. That’s the kind of effect the soundbar will produce.
Right, and audiophiles know this, but one can buy a premium Atmos receiver and pay for professional custom speaker install at that price point for far less and be more aesthetically pleasing.
$2500 should give you dolby Atmos surrounds and a subwoofer.
Does this soundbar have a headphone jack?
SIR RYAN WANIATA PLEASE REVIEW NEW KEF Q SERIES SPEAKERS.
its an insane money for a sound bar
It’s still a sound bar. 5.1 will always sound better.
Never had an issue with lip sync..so sorry you are wrong. Update your review.
It should have been useful to make a test around a few seconds....