Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa V4 SP - the best trackday tyre in the world? | MCN Review
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Chief Road Tester Michael Neeves gives his verdict on the latest Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa V4 SP. Watch the video now!
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My 2cents worth. I do agree.
Having the 2022V4SP. I gave the bike a real serving recently. This is only to find that the tires still look like I've done a local coffe shop run.
My mates tires look all torn up like ragged and ready for the bin. The other tires were Mitch, and Bridge. Just so impressive the PDSC4 tire
I really do appreciate the latest "sportbike" related videos you've recently put out, keep em coming
I’m waiting for my first set to arrive. I love the V 3 series, having used them extensively on road and on track. The way they handle ambient temperature is actually much better than claimed (I did a 3,600 mile trip on a set, including riding in high country with snow on the roadside, with no issues). My bikes (Panigale iterations) do “consume” the Supercorsas at a rate that would make a wallet snap shut in terror, but it’s a fair trade off for the insane grip, especially on corner exit. And, in fact, I used a set of a competitor’s tires (Q 5) which initially felt similar to the Supercorsa tires but diminished more quickly and also wore out (past the tread indicator) in fewer track days. For me, the key is to assiduously monitor the tire pressure, checking it after each session. The rear routinely goes up 8 psi each time, in warm to hot weather. With that, the wear is very even and tire life is maximized.
The Rosso IV Corsa review said the exact same things, more or less. What is the difference, and what's the differentiating factor between the two?
Trust me these are far stickier
I'd say this are a bit grippier, but a bit worse on wet roads and durability.. I'd say the Rosso's would still be the better bang for the buck too.
How much horsepower your bike throws out probably. Liter vs 600?
Mine is a 600 and they grip up awesome 😎
I had both on my S1000RR. My opinion: supercorsa has an advantage on the track, simply more grip. I like the rosso 4 corsa for the street because it still has quite some wet performance, which the other lacks.
Any tyres that kick tyre-warmers into touch have to be a good thing. Great video.
Comparing the new V4 SP front in particular, visually it appears to be more rounded and less pointy than the V3 I guess making it marginally slower to turn in / drop into a corner but more stable? Maybe hard to tell without a back to back test but did you feel any evidence of this at all?
How do they compare with Metzeler Racetec RR or Conti Raceattack Street 2 ? What is for a 120 front wheel the best longevity option for the stickiest road legal compound considering all existing brands?
Please share at least your personal subjective opinion. Thank you!
Thanks for doing this informative video!
Sc3 compound on the shoulders means racing compounds.how can you use it without tyrewarmers and how is that going to work on the street? i can't understand.
If I go and buy SC racing tyres with Sc3 compound(the same as supercorsa v4) can I use it on the street or without tyre warmers? I believe not, so I can't see the use of them.
That's a very good Question
They need to get hot to work, so unless you're flogging it everywhere, they're not the tyre for you on the street.
s polovnim slikovima se do karlobaga ide na lakat kamoli ne s ovim novima
Sc3 can be used on the street on warm, dry days.
Its silica in the Middle wich heats up quickly and that is spreading to the sides, so its not total as sc3 alone on the hole tire when it comes to heating it up..
If I’m riding on the street in 50° F temps (10C) is the grip still higher than Rosso 4 Corsa? I love the plushness and grip of the supercosa in warmer temps but not sure if that changes and I’m taking more risk than I think at lean in colder temps. Is 50° high enough for get the most of out of these or close to it? (Panigale V4)
The old supercorsa's were a pain to warm up and keep in a decent window on the streets. How do these compare, and would you be better off on Rosso Corsa IIs if you were mainly street riding?
I was going to ask the same question so…following. Thank you.
If you are having issues keeping them warm, you don't need supercorsas.
@@Mudux100%
Rosso 4 corsa>rosso 2 corsa
@@ayowser01 Rosso 4 Corsa's are a lower performance tire than the Rosso Corsa IIs.
I tried the back tyre and it only lasted 1200ks on rural backroads (Australia, 24-30°, 26 psi) I tried 2 in a row. I usually run an SC2 V3 and I get about 400ks more out of those. The new bridge in the middle of the flash is where the new SP V4's wear, which is about where the 2 compounds meet. The tires wore out in these areas first, I have never had tyres wear out there before the middle. The grip on the new SP is a lot better than the last model SP. The SC2 V3 and this new SP V4 have similar grip. They have changed the flash patterns and also the compounds I believe. I've gone back to the SC2 V3 (SC1 fronts) on my GSXR1000R.
26psi rear on the road? That’s at least 10psi too low…
@neevesybikes I think they recommend 30psi warm with the SPV4 (track and hard riding) I checked it out on the roads after 12ks (6 ks hard riding) and it came out as that (it actually read 31psi). I run 26psi cold on the SC2. I think they recommend 26-28psi cold on that for track and hard riding. I only use my bike for hard riding, lucky to live near empty rural roads.
@@GSXR.Knightman I’d use road pressures, if I were you. You’ll get better steering and wear. You’ll never keep the heat in them on the road with track pressures, even if you ride fast 👍
We were running road pressures at this test on track at the Pergusa circuit in Sicily…
@neevesybikes what PSI cold were you running? I'm always keen to try. I have since gone back to the SC2 now though. I'm running an SC1 V3 on the front at 29 cold. I really liked the SP V4 but it just didn't last. I have tried the SC1 V3 on the back (26psi cold) that only lasted 1200ks aswell. The shop accidentally ordered the SP V4 first time round... and the second time ha ha.
'Almost unmarked after a day on the track'? Wow. What gas did the Pirelli guys you were with fill them with? Chemically pure antiwearium? I put these on for a Castle Combe trackday - 100 mile steady road ride to the circuit, maybe 100 miles on track, 100 mile steady road ride home. The right side of the rear was down to the wear indicators nearest the edge after a day on track, English summer weather - sunny spells, 20ish, some drizzle. Yes, amazing grip and feel - including in one session that was drizzling: I'm a ham-fisted lunk who leans on the TC, and I could hardly get the TC on all day - fantastic grip, and they feel so safe to take and change any line you want. But, since the wear on the road was basically zero, the rear tyre cost £2 per track mile. Oof.
im so torn between getting these and the rosso IV corsas for my 675r. Is the difference in how long they last pretty similar with the IV corsas lasting a little longer?
Yeah the Rosso C's will last longer, and be a better road tyre, and tbh for most riders a better track tyre too. The SP's will in theory be better on track but you'd wanna be at a decent level to notice.
I got 4k miles out of my SuperCorsas before the metal started showing. Stick to the Rosso Corsas
Would you recommend them for a 2020 Katana? Or a 2022 Busa?
I'm in Florida so I'm sure they'd be ok in the winter here 😂
You don’t have curves there, you will erase center tire in no time, take Rosso4 ( i have it) its has more mileage..
@@SpeedDemon92
Au contraire mon ami. Florida is home to one of the most challenging curvy roads in the world. It's called the Tail of the gecko.
11 curves in 318 miles. The challenge is staying awake. 😆😆😆
How do these last compared to the version 3 improved grip and mileage or the same?
Would you recommend this for a sport tourer being tracked like a 1000sx?
I just got a set of these gonna try them out at the track
Rode them this season on my SF V4 SP and loved them. So much better than the Rosso II Corsa which she came with.
hello,
for a first track day tyre what would people recommend? Pirelli Diablo Rosso IV Corsa or the Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP V4. would appreciate the help. Thanks
Just get the standard rosso 4; it also has sc3 shoulders.
@@ayowser01NO not the front, its full silica
@@livetborjarefter1504 why does silica in the front matter?
@@targetoz5470you dont have the same grip after a sertin tempeture
have to say NO! the V3 I used offered more grip, for sure, even tho I ONLY have around hundred break in miles at this point the V3 was significantly grippier . . on my busa in the tight canyons, 3rd night in row, same corner about 85%-90% the back stepped out same spot, an odd camber deal where the V3 ate it up even at 100% could it be cuz I have about 1/4" strip remaining and have yet to get it all the way over yet? if I remember I went right after the V3, never had this issue its a canyon I hit at will like a mile away, 58 tuners in 13 miles form super tight to 120 mph long sweepers..
I haven't experienced it on the right side but 3 times on the left? WTF? 95 degrees today so should be plenty hot but I hit in 3 different temps 70 degrees, 80, then 95 about the same result save the last one it dint step out as much, not really trying to slide around these turns cuz everyone's freeked out enough as it is and sliding by them would be the end of it for sure... I like the sure grip but if its the nature of the V4 then I'll have to work with it, spendy too, I figured it have more grip than the V3, same exact size, 200/60 I have no issues in the middle of the side tho ..
I'll bring it all the way down and scrub it in good see if its still does it.. maybe its a bad tire?
What tire pressures do you recommend for the track I'm just a beginner
Cold 30f 22r
Hi Neevsey, for one of your reflection videos. I am a guy of a certain age who's been riding an older 2009 BMW R1200RT-P with my girl (also of a certain age)... She has been pretty vocal for us to be faster (I know, right?) (Disclaimer, we are in a top 20% of the fast people in my group of guys who ride outright BMW A1000RR and such, so we do not dilly dally).
Here's my question. I bought a pretty clean 2001 GSX-R1000 for basically a song because it needed work. Work done and comparing to my old 2000 GSX-R750 in my 20's, it is a violent beast as much as I remember. And now to the real question. Considering it runs about 140/150 whp with zero electronics, how would you compare it to these new fancy pants electronically restricted bikes?
Where I am concerned the 750 is like a painting by Picasso while the 1000 is something Jackson Pollock threw at the wall...
Still want to go to the dealer for a service, so slicks are too far for me. so this will be the tires for me due this video
can you do a comparison on the sp v4 and the Dunlop Q5? that would be a good video!
which is better for you guys? Super Corsa SP V4 or Diablo Rosso Corsa 4? :)
Jolie vidéo merci ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️
Pirelli or Michelin?
How do they perform in the wet? Pirelli claim they’re good