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IMHO this gentleman is the best in the business! This is why you're at 7K in just a few months. The way you explain and show examples are always clear and concise. The forum only expands on every video you have. Just great content all around.
Thank you so much WT! You're making me blush! 🤪
I completely agree with you, Rich is a great guy i have learnt alot from his videos. cant wait for Rich to start using the co2 laser, as that's what i have now,so great things to come,for light burn best software on the market, as its 25th hope you all had a great Christmas and Rich as always keep up the great work .
@@David-ws6zr Thank you Sir!
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Your most welcome Rich
Perfect video....I'm about to make a Christmas present and needed this info!!! Thank you so much!!!! Another awesome video. Keep them coming and I wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New year as well as a speedy recovery!!
Thanks so much Doc! Merry Christmas to you and yours! Hope that present comes out nice! 🎅
I have been watching your videos and have found them a refreshing change as well as informative, I am now one of your growing list of subscribers and look forwards to your next video. Keep up the great content. 👍🇬🇧👍
Wonderful Tony! Glad to have you aboard Sir! 🎅
Happy Christmas Rich, love your vids, they are so helpful
Same to you Chris! Thanks so much!
Thanks for sharing this! Great info that I can't wait to try out. Happy holidays.
Happy holidays to yo too Michael!
I always learn so much from you. You have such a simplistic way of describing how to use Lightburn. Thank you. This video solved an ongoing project that may actually get completed. Thank you again.
Glad it was helpful!
Rich thanks for the the lesson. Take care of yourself and get to feeling better. Merry Christmas
Thank you John, I will. Merry Christmas!
Thanks for another informative video Rich. Merry Christmas to you and your family. Get we’ll soon.
Thank you Mike! Same to you!
Great video Rich! I just found out before watching about the goodness of the Lightburn adjust image function. Thanks for all you do!
Thanks for watching Scott!
Thanks again Rich. I hope you feel better and Happy Holidays. See you in '22. Cheers!
Happy holidays Christopher! I'll be back again in 2021! 🎅
Great video, you have helped to clear things up. As I engrave wood a lot you have helped me understand better so thank you!!
Glad to help!
Rich, I hope you are soon feeling better after your dose of Covid and you are all clear to enjoy Christmas. So, Merry Christmas to you and yours, and thank you for all the help your videos have given me (and 6,999 + others) Looking forward to seeing more in the New Year.
Thanks so much Ian! A very Merry Christmas to you and your family as well!
Thank you, I am always learning from your explanations and demonstrations. Eyeball test Fantastic!
Glad it was helpful Chad!
Great video. Thanks for the advice! Really helpful.
Glad it was helpful John!
Thank you. Merry Christmas. Get well soon!
Thank you! You too Kenny! I appreciate ya!
Thank you for the video Rich! Get well soon!
Thank you for watching Ted! I'll be back in shape in no time! 👍
Great video. Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Same to you Karl! Thank you!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours!
Same to you Terry, thank you!
hi rich hope you are feeling better another great video as always and a big happy Christmas to you and your family
Thank you! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!
Thank you! Everything I know I have learned from you! Grateful
You are so welcome!
Awesome Video. Hope you feel better
Thank you so much! Time will take care of it.... 🖖
Merry Christmas to you and your family! Hope you get better soon.
Thank you John! Merry Christmas to you and yours too! 🎅
Merry Christmas to you Rich and the family. Another enjoyable video that I have to agree with, I do my processing in Lightburn too. I mostly use grayscale though. Thanks for the video!
Merry Christmas to you and your family too George! Thanks for watching!
Hope you feel better and Merry Christmas to you
Thank you Bob! A very Merry Christmas to you too!
I wish you a speedy recovery. Merry Christmas
I appreciate that, thank you! Merry Christmas!
Thank you Rich, for another successful lesson. You are absolutely right. LightBurn is the only program you need for laser engraving. I've been working with it a bit more the last few days and it keeps coming up with fantastic new ways to tweak or edit my projects. Thank you for your dedication and work that you share with us. My friend, take care of yourself and get well soon. I wish you and your family a blessed Christmas and all the best for the New Year.
Thank you *Sir Jürgen!* 👍 Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to you and yours too!
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Thank you too Sir.
Thanks for sharing Rich! Absolutely perfect timing too, my next project is engraving a photo onto plywood for my mom. Never attempted photos so far and this was very helpful!
That is awesome Ben! Your Mom is going to love it!
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy thanks! Hope you feel better soon. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
@@percivalthegreat Back at you Sir! 🎅
Thanks for this video I have Lightburn and was thinking of using ImagR but Not any more.
Awesome Ed!
Great info. Thanks
Glad you liked it Martin! Thanks for watching!
Merry Christmas to you and your family, stay safe and get well soon.
Same to you and yours Bob! Thanks for watching!
Well you talked me out of getting Imag-r. Thanks Rich 😊
Better to create your own presets in Lightburn.
Your content is awesome and your voice is so soothing.🤷♂️😬✌️
I appreciate that, *thanks!*
Merry Christmas Rich.
Get well soon.
Thanks, you too Chip!
Interesting. This video reconfirms the fact that if I want to do a project, you've probably already done a video on it, and to look first. Also, this video reconfirms your dedication to the channel and your subscribers. Let's Go!, 20k subscribers!! lol
Thanks Jeffrey! I find it hard to believe so many people are interested in watching me play with my hobby, but I'm glad y'all are along for the ride! 👍
Merry Christmas to you. Get Well
Merry Christmas to you too! Thank you!
Thanks so much, you are the best
You're welcome!
Thank you for another good video. Do you have an image of the eyeball to use for your test? Is it on your forum?
Yes, there is a library with the eyes in it. I think it's called test grids.
Hi Rich just wondered do you have a template of your "eyeball test" ?? once again another great vid ;)
It's part of the universal test card on the forum.
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy ive just found it !!🤦♂️🤦♂️
Thank you Rich .. You are the man 🙏
Great video
Thanks for the visit!
dont forget to put a cover on that outlet in the wall behind you LOL!!! love your videos thanks for all the help i think i would have given up by now with out you
It's on my list Robert! I'm missing about 12 covers in the new space! I'm going to make them on the CNC and engrave them on the laser. Just been backed up with the holidays and all.
Merry Christmas everyone.
Merry Christmas!
Look after yourself brother and Merry Christmas to you and the family.
Thanks so much! And a Merry Christmas to and yours as well! 🎅
Hay, Rich I have a question, I have tried to do the white paint on tile then wait to dry and pain black on top
of white. my problem is that I clean the tile real good then I paint it white I Waite until the next day then I spray the black and as soon as I spray with black the paint starts to crinkle up. don't know why I'm using the same brand of paint, any help would be great Thank You for your time Sir..
The paint is incompatible Andy.
Merry Christmas Rich! Have you done a video about how to set up your laser so that it starts at the same place? I've had to burn a circle on my wasteboard around where I am going to laser. It seems every time I try to do a different project. That burn spot doesn't work. I've made a template, but after I use it once, the spots where I laser have changed. Thanks!
You're probably set to current position or user origin on the laser tab SG. When using templates, you have to choose a reference origin point in absolute coordinates.
get well brother! we need you
Getting better every day Gene! Thanks!
Great video. I've just started engraving photos and knowing newsprint works well is helpful. Literally running a newsprint engraving in wood as I type this. The Jarvis version of the same photo on the same wood looks too chipped away with less detail. I've also just started messing with imag-r for this purpose and it's great to know I don't really need it. Thanks!
Great to hear! I like Newsprint and Jarvis.
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy literally just finished my 5th variation of the same photo and without using imag-r and just tweaking the contrast, brightness, gamma, and sharpen in lightburn it came out great on newsprint. Now that I got that down I'll try Jarvis again as it actually did have potential once I looked at it closer. Seems we have the same idea of what looks good! Thanks again!
I just started engraving, and every question I have you either have a video or are making one! I was wondering if using 2 different image processors are necessary, thanks for answering! I wish you would have shown the finished product on the wood though.
Thank you! No, Lightburn has all the image tools you need.
Get welĺ soon love your videos
Thank you Mark! I appreciate it!
Thanks!
You bet! Thanks so much for the support @ericfinley3384!
Hello i buy ortur master pro 6 days ago but my laser power is not like yours it was same maybe 4 days. How to fix that can i change that is setings maybe i do something wrong in light burn please help me.Thank you.
If you join my free forum, you can get plenty of help there. lahobbyguy.com/bb/
Thanks for this great video. I haven't messed with my laser in 3 years, and back then I don't recall Lightburn having all these options, and everyone used image-R, looks like no need to use that any more.
Lightburn has come a LONG way in 3 years Shawn!
Would like to know the differnt setting between burning and cutting power and speed
I can't tell you your settings.
I asked myself the same question. What is the difference between the Lightburn process and the imagr process? Thank you for your tests Rich and Merry Christmas.
Thanks Sam, Merry Christmas to you too!
Some of my wood sheets are curling /bowing a bit. So i have to raise the lazer a mm or two to prevent it from knocking the sheet out of position. Any tips?
I have plans on building a platform that i can anchor the corners to but waiting on the new frame.
Yes, store them in a bag with a weight on top otherwise they will bow out. To use bowed pieces, you need to have a honeycomb bed with hold down pins. Or you can use a metal bed with magnets. All wood warps with the humidity.
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
Honeycomb is in the works also.
Happy Holidays from Washington. I've been milling dark mahogany to about 1/8" and the contrast on a burn is amazing- try it!
Happy holidays! I've done vectors on mahogany, but not images. I'll have to try it!
Show us what you are making.
@@teddodgin9644 I'm going to start posting behind the scenes pics on Instagram Ted. Follow me there @louisianahobbyguy
I'll try that, I usually use photogav to adjust images
Hey, whatever works Bob! I'm just sharing my opinion! I really have very little experience with engraving images.
I feel the same way about engraving photos using a laser, I'm not a fan of it. I do love B&W photography though. Not to say that there isn't a need or reason why anyone would do it. I haven't explored the possibility of engraving a photo yet but if I did I would likely use Photoshop only because I've been using that software for 24 years, and I'm very comfortable using it. If someone were to ask me if they needed to use outside software I would tell them no and send them your video :)
Hope you are recovering well from being sick and had a wonderful Christmas!
Thank you Jason! And I agree. As a Corel user since... well since Corel started, it was hard for me to break the habit when it came to the laser, but once I learned the Lightburn image processes, I haven't looked back. That's not to say I don't use Corel anymore, just not with my laser graphics. Thanks for the comments!!
I couldn't agree more. Lightburn does, IMO, a much better job of processing photos for burning. It took a lot of hours, a lot of material and a lot of failures to finally figure out the processing because I listened to too many "experts" in the beginning. I was never happy with the results from Imag-R even though everyone raved about it but once I trained my eye to see the adjustments, I've not had a bad photo result since.
Good to hear Karen! I used to waste a lot of material myself, so I know the feeling.
Hi. I’m new to the co2 laser game. Stumbled upon you on TH-cam and like your calmness in explaining things. I have Rdworks software. Bought imagR and now hearing all about lightburn. Please could you give me some tips and advice onengraving photos on ply wood and slate. Thanks hobby guy
I can't in a quick text Allan, but you can ask on my forum: lahobbyguy.com/bb
I have to agree with you 100%. I don't use outside software then import to LightBurn. However, I use Lightburn and export to other software because LightBurn is a superior piece of software.
Yes Kris! Good point! I missed that one! I start a lot of my graphics in Lightburn and export them to svg & ai!
Take care of yourself. As with any virus, drink lots of liquids, keep your system 'flushed' but hydrated.
Regarding burning images, if your system can do grayscale, that is what should be used. You should 'profile' the material to find the power / speed combination that gives you the first full black (max power) and just barely noticeable burn (min power) for the same speed and set your power levels and speed accordingly. Remember to run your profile at max power = 100% and min power = 0. Determining the correct endpoints will give you the greatest grayscale for that material.
If you are doing wood, the direction of the grain can also influence the results; try burning horizontal, vertical and diagonal to see what works best for that material.
It looks like a lot of work, but it is worth figuring out what works best for each specific material for YOUR machine. Once that is determined, burns become almost mindless, no brightness, contrast, gamma or other settings to fool with unless you want to alter the image.
Yeah, I've done all that Edward, and I have never gotten good results with grayscale except on dark wood. I do practice what I preach! 🤪
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy Same here. Grayscale can produce odd artifacts that can be hard to trace. I do a lot of tiles, and I get the best result with newsprint.
@@baldeagle5297 News is my go-to in most cases, depending on the shades of gray.
I also use grayscale almost exclusively but my materials are painted canvas and slate mostly with the occasional piece of maple or light cherry.
I didn’t even realize that adjusting the image allowed me to see the different results for the different methods until I went back in and checked. Totally gonna use Lightburn from here on out, Lightburn takes into account the method you use, Imag-r does not!
Try posting on my free forums. lahobbyguy.com/bb This is too much to answer in a comment.
I'm really struggling with photo engraving on slate,I've followed your video and many others to the tee and I've played with contrast and brightness till the cows come home but I'm still getting really white engravings,what am I doing wrong it's driving me bananas??
Likely a power issue. You have to run test grids to get your speeds and power Gerard.
Does this still hold true? I've been looking at beautiful slate images made with imag-r AND lightburn, are these possible with lightburn only.
I have much better luck with Lightburn Terry.
Question: I have a neje 2 master max, I’m very new to this. I set up a logo and it looks pretty good, but the font is coming out backwards just like you mirrored it ? On the screen your designing it reads correctly. How to correct this? I’m running windows 10. Thanks, ronnie
Do you have invert image ticked off in the preview tab?
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy tell me where to go ??
From the top menu, Window --> Preview, or click the little TV screen icon up top.
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy
I checked it and it’s turned off ?
Just for the heck of it I opened lightburn and printed on my printer and it came out correct.
Newsprint actually does look good. I haven't tried that yet.
Every picture is different, so I usually do a side-by-side of my top 3 formats on the same material. Then I compare the results. On light wood, New wins every time for me.
Hey rich, love your videos. Just wanted to add that if you're using the free version of imag-r it couldn't possible compare. Lightburn would win everytime. I tried the free version about a year ago and didn't see the value at all! However, if you used the paid version, running an image with something the kasia algorithm is a game changer. I used to have such a hard time with photos and I was skeptical of using another paid subscription but they do have a lifetime license available. I would love to see you do a comparison of the paid version. It's $8 a month or $24 for 6 months. I'm not an affiliate btw.
Not a fan of monthly subscription software J.
I agree with you Rich, I not a fan of subscription software, Lightburn has this correct if you ask me. You buy Lightburn and it is ours if after a year you want the updates it is $30.00 for another year of updates. I did purchase imag-R for $33.15 with a 15% discount from lasernoob the subscription is for one year, I bought it a few hours ago and so far the jury is out.
I think that it takes a lot of practice and be sure to document what you did and run test to get the results one is looking for.
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Rich, I have to disagree with your conclusion. Lightburn did a good j
ob with the image but lmag-r did do imho a slightly better job. This is noticeable mostly in the background detail in the imag-r version. The lightburn version acted like the bokeh was changed on the photo and detail was lost. In the end it come dopwn to what you are trying to accomplish in the burn. You may well be able to spend a bit more time in lightburn and match the results closer. A very interesting example and comparision and should be very helpful to most laser users! Well done as usual.
Thanks Mike, but this was just a quick demonstration. Imag-r is just a script, Lightburn gives you full control over every aspect of the tuning of the photo.
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Photos CAN be difficult
Takes LOTS of trial and error Lonnie!
I’m having trouble doing a badge for a police officer. I am doing the badge on a bottle opener and I had to make it 3/4 of an inch round to fit. It comes out kinda blurry and none of the words show up. I’m new to the image game but I’m not sure if it’s me trying too small of an image or just not tracing it well.
It could be a combination of both Ryan. I find police badges don't engrave well under 3" or so. Start with a really high resolution photo, that might help.
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy thank you for the response! I did them as clear as can be for the size. He said looks good to him 👍🏼👍🏼
@@Ryan82288 That's all that matters! 👍
I processed my image in imagr with white tile, imported with passthrough on lightburn ..but my image came out grainy
Can't help, I don't use Imag-r.
Unless it looks different in person, the imagr is the better pic. I work in the printing industry. But that being said, you could of spent another 10 seconds in lightburn and made it better than the imagr version.
😜 Not for laser engraving it isn't!
When choosing a photo do I need to convert to png or bmp before bringing it to lightburn?
Lightburn recognizes almost all formats of photos Gerard.
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy thanks for that👍
Is the “eyeball test template” available for download?
There's an art library with the templates in it on my Forum.
Thanks bud. 👍
Can you help me please, l can't find adjust image
Right click on the image or from the toolbar click, Tools --> Adjust Image.
How do you remove back ground from image ?
Draw a mask around the whatever you want to crop with the line tool. I have a video somewhere on it. Select both. Flatten image mask.
Thanks for the video!! I did try to join your web page because I want to make a puzzle for my grandson who is Autistic and I tried a second time and I never get the authentication email. I have tried twice have verified my info and nothing. Can you give me suggestions? Please, I love your channel, who cant do much anymore (am a disabled Navy Vet from the Vietnam and Cold War eras.
Pretty sure the email server is fixed now... maybe 🤪 You can send me an email with your username and I'll check on your account Brad. thelahobbyguy@gmail.com
Probably dial in your laser, all of your outcomes doesn‘t look nearly good.
Okay 🤪
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy happy you didn‘t deleted it, like the last comments :)
@@ImagR-Laser I have never deleted a comment. I know TH-cam does sometimes, even mine! Go check out my Instagram at louisianahobbyguy and look at some of my work there.
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But none of your tests make use of the variable power of a diode laser. you just burn 85% or nothing. Have you tried using variable power and dispensing entirely with conversion to mono pattern algorithms ? I've found I get far better results by making full use of the dynamic range my laser is capable of. This is true even with slate, where I can achieve around 4-5 different shades.
Yes I have, but this video was just about comparing images.
Is this a serious video?
Are you kidding? The quality of all the images were literal crap.
I think it's impossible for them to be _"literal"_ crap 🤪 You might not want to use that word....
What shows up in the software is not what shows up on the wood. Why did you not show the wood after engraving?
Because I was showing an image editing comparison.
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy but isn't the point to show which ends up best on the wood after laser engraving? That seems like the real test, right? It can look great on the computer but if it doesn't look good printing, what's it matter, and vice versa. Just my 2 cents. Sorry to offend.