Very interesting development ‼I filmed this video MANY Months ago AND now Famous Atheist Richard Dawkins Says He Considers Himself a ‘Cultural Christian’ and is having regrets about promoting Atheism...The cultural Christian position rejects the beliefs of Christianity but glorifies all of its fruits.🙏☦ Pray for Richard Dawkins ✨☦
Have you ever listen to Bill donahues teachings? He has some interesting views. I'm currently in catechumen and have yet to see an orthodox talk about him. Could you check him out?
Christianity is great for the working class because it helps them cope with how crappy their life is but as a member of the ownership class I don't have any inclination to believe in any of it. But if Christianity is what it takes for people to work hard for little money and accept all sorts of hardship I guess I'll just have to deal with living in Christian taliban if that keeps my dividends coming.
@@michaelbeach7988 - We don't even know what the original Buddhists taught because their earliest religious texts are 300 years after Buddha's death. Buddhism also underwent some changes during the 4th century, after Christians had visited India, suggesting that Buddhism attempted to copy Christianity. This is why there are no "similarities" between Buddha and Jesus until the 4th century. Meanwhile, the New Testament is literally the most reliable ancient source, written within 100 years of Jesus's life, and the gospels offer reliable eyewitness accounts. Christianity is also the fulfillment of Old Testament (not modern) Judaism, making it roots far older than Buddhism.
@@josephb.4640 I’m converting to orthodoxy. You don’t have to convince me the New Testament is reliable. I’m just saying that appealing to the age of a religion showing it’s truth is not a good point
Hi guy lovely content . He is being ignorant on saying that Which god ? I see that the same god has been interpreted differently . Hinduism isnt a polytheistic ideology its a polymorphision . Its said that a god which is all powerful and all prevading and is in every on of us has different forms . Forms to punish the unrightousness and the forms to show us the paths of true rightousness and do a greater good . Its believed that Krishna is the supreme couciousness and the one who has diffrent forms , All knowledge leads to him and without knowledge you cant understand him . I am not trying to convert as there is no type of conversion thing in The hindu culture its said that the world is your family and the greatest myth is that hinduism is a religion , it isnt , its more important to perform your Dharma than to believe in god . Believe in god is done to move forward and to be deattached from your actions fruits . All i am trying to convey is that richard dawkins is wrong when he says that "Which god" cause every belief says and talks about one true god even hinduism .
There are atheists right now who are atheistic towards religions that even you would regard as false. Nothing about them seems absurd. If the only religion I was aware of was mormonism, or the cannibal Agori tribe in India, I'd definitely be an atheist.
@@lordberossus2545 - That's...not the definition of atheism. Atheism posits that there's no God. Rejecting certain religions means that you reject certain models of God (or gods), but you can still believe in God. I kind of see your point, as some people may simply be unaware of a coherent model of God, but ultimately, this is just a rephrased version of the "you reject all the gods too; I only reject one more God than you!" fallacy.
@@josephb.4640 *"I kind of see your point, as some people may simply be unaware of a coherent model of God"* Most people are. They accept the ontology of gods existence without being able to epistemologically lead themselves there. *"but ultimately, this is just a rephrased version of the "you reject all the gods too; I only reject one more God than you!" fallacy."* It's not a fallacy because its not an argument. Pointing out that you are entirely aware of what it feels like to off handedly reject peoples obviously mythological stories isn't an argument. It's a fact. If I told you anything about norse mythology it would sound as if I'm describing a marvel movie.
@@lordberossus2545 - Except, of course, Christianity is extremely well-substantiated by the historical record and cannot be accurately described as "mythology."
It’s interesting. As a kid I was a cultural Christian and nothing more. Richard Dawkins is the one that made me admit to myself that I was an atheist at heart and made me search for God in earnest. So I kinda owe my real faith to Dawkins. Interesting how that happened
"I'm ashamed to admit I was wrong and I can't believe there's forgiveness for me so I'll act like the people I was laughing at without being one of them" crazy stuff
"life on earth could be designed by a supremely intelligent being, but it just can't be God because I don't like God, it could be an alien tho" ~le smart atheist man
@@kano1652 1) how would you know that? Are you saying you have faith in benevolent alien gods? 2) so you aren't rejecting God based on the evidence, since you acknowledge that life on earth seems to be designed, you just reject God because you don't like God. Your personal preference doesn't determine what's true.
@@joeyn985 Well god clearly stated that hes gonna throw people into the pit of fire if i wont believe in him and im sorry but i never saw him,never heard him talk and the scriptures? Please,they were written my men without any divine inspiration,i never claimed that i believed that everything is designed,how are disabled people designed exactly? People with the most fucked up ilnesses since birth? Yea god designed them real good 🤦🏻♂️ If i was god i would never ever throw my own creation into eternal torture for such a petty thing like believing in me
I remember talking to an elder while waiting at my tribal health clinic. He was a Rocket scientist from the 70s through to the late 90s and even had creds. He asked me point blank if i believed in God. I wasnt too kin on God at the time because I was freshly out of the JWs and Christianity had a bad taste in my mouth. It took me back and I listened to him as he told me that most scientists believes in God and to not believe the sterotype that scientists and medical people are atheists. He said everything is too finely tuned for all of this to happen by random chance. I was about 20 at that time and now im in my early 30s and still think about that encounter.
He had a whole battle purely about semantics, and then after the other person was sufficient confused he hit em with the your position is self refuting get a better education... what a joke 😂 listening to that was painful just because of how fruitless it was. and I'd be suprised if anyone could untangle the mess of words he spewed into an actual concise response.
@@mintyfresh524when your opponent have low education, the first thing you do is teach them the correct semantics. Cult tactics always pervert the meaning of word to confuse audience, that is their only way to avoid embarrassment
Someone needs to make a video of people trying to guess which quotes are from Dawkins and which are from Hannibal Lecter. I can pretty easily imagine a video playing clips of both mixed with some Dawkins inpressions from Jay.
"I don't have to prove anything" was my favorite thing to say in the third grade when I was being argumentative while knowing I was wrong. Funny to see Dawkins is a celebrated intellectual renowned for arguing like a child.
I think the worst part is he's assuming god cannot be created, and must have an origin. But this is literally just putting God into a box, the bible literally states he's eternal and uncreated
No itd always Theist logic that everything needed a creator. An Atheist says if that is so then why dont need a creator. Look until now we havent found any solid proof how universe was created. However, religion also have no proof how their god created universe and where is god? If we dont know about anuthing, isnt it fair to say, "we dont know". Science says that, "we dont know yet how universe was created, we are still seeking proof and traces". Until we dont found one, why do we need to believe god. Eitherway, An Atheist is living a wonderful life without believing in god. So is there even any benefit in believing in god?
@@joeyn985then they'll say some shit that there could be mulitple universes with infinite possibilites, yet dont account for the fact God would be in one of them, therfore, he would be in all of them as he is all powerful
@@cod3368 that's a good one lol. If there are infinite universes then theoretically there is a universe where Jesus was actually God in the flesh and resurrected. And if there's one universe where God exists, He's infinite and eternal, so He's real in all of them
@@redwojak5182 I’m not new to Eastern orthodoxy and I learned about it from Greek Orthodox family members. While I respect it and prefer it to Catholicism, I just don’t see myself joining anytime soon. God bless ✝️☦️
@@thephotoshopper5908why not? Protestantism has no Epistemology beyond personal Bible interpretation, and technically absolutely nothing, even the Biblical canon is binding
I had a argument with and atheist that logic doesn’t prove anything and I told him that there is no point in arguing then then he was like “no” very eye opening
@@mrhackerdz5431 1) we live in a fallen world, bad things happen because we chose to violate the rules given to us, (or if demons/Satan causes these bad things to happen) 2) hell is the one place without God, you either choose to be with him or without him.
@@EnglishOrthodoxAh yes , a loving parent . Thousands of years looking for space milk and punishing the kids for not loving him back. Not a good father figure I reckon
24:44 This confuses me about Philo classes (assuming the atheist is taking Philo classes). The dude Jay is talking to is referencing figures like Descartes and Hume but only read "some" of Plato. Shouldnt Philo classes start with people like Aristotle and Plato? Genuine question cause I never took a Philosophy class
I am a believing orthodox christian so do not think I am an atheist coming with critique. I do have one question though, specifically how does the transcendental argument for God prove God?
I love the clip going over the argument against materialism. Please share more like this I love your atheist series!!! Seriously you're one of the best youtube channels out there. I'm not orthodox nor do I condone people converting but I love your channel
I think you should reduce the segment of putting Dyer in your videos, we get it you have a celebrity crush but thats why we have dyer's clips channel. Create your own content or refer to him in the end.
I add in other creators because I think it is useful to make a point AND it promotes their channel... For example, I have included Jay Dyer, Anandaapologetics, Jeemapologetics, Drew in my Mormon video, my friend Jon in my best Christian movies video, Fr Peter heers, etc etc
The big problem that jumps out at me from the logic thing is that even within our own universe things happen that we don't consider to be logical at a very small scales in the form of Quantum Mechanics
1) Logic is necessarily true, because we deem it to he necessarily true, we can say logic governs logic, but that's circular, and that's fine because it's supposed to be, the issue arises, when we try to our logical tools are actually 1 to 1 correspondences to reality. Which isn't necessarily true. And even if we go off observation or empirical evidence, these are just inductions. 2) assuming creation that needs a creator is only implied to be within the vacuum of the universe and not the universe itself, it's begging the question if you just assume it to apply to the container of reality to the the substance within the container, and that's also assuming the universe began to begin with ~ the rule of God being eternal could just be applied to the universe, the big bang is only evidence of the expansion all else is speculation without further evidence, and the universe within a 4D or 5D perspective could be eternal, while we 4D being experience time linearly Kinda lazy to finish the rest
An answer is the foundational law of chemistry ( Lavoisier), handreds of years, and 2.7 thousand years in Democritos: "Nothing comes from no existense"
Islam also claims if you choose wrong you will be burned forever yet you pass off those claims and are sure you're going to heaven but we could live the same life over and over again we could be reincarnated we could go to heaven hell we could just die and be gone no one knows the details of the afterlife except those who are dead but the fact consciousness likely cannot continue without a physical brain suggests there be nothing after death which is something
You see a young man folding an old man, supposed "intellectual", into a pocket with simple questions. How an old man without God in his life is blind, even though he has much more living experience than that young man. For that i can only remind you of Matthew 11:25 - At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. How amaizing that is. All glory to the Lord!
Sftu for fu*k sake dude, folding ?? Dude used the bible as a source, if anything more stupid to back up your argument with is this fairy tale book you mfs believe in, and say we blinded ?? Yes if being not restarted and not believing in your fairy book brings blindness so be it, all you guys do is play with words and feelings which is sick
If a woman pursues a relationship with me. We then get married. I then show her no attention, care, consideration, or even speak to her once during our marriage. She then divorces me bc of this. I then proceed to set her on fire for divorcing me. Did I love my wife?
All your logic is flawed from the very beginning, you are just arguing that “because we don’t know what created the universe, it MUST be god,” also how can you simply just not accept the theory of evolution? Have you opened a book besides the Bible??
There’s always a creator, it doesn’t matter “what” created the universe, whatever that thing is - we call God. It’s the purest form of logic you can get, it’s not flawed.
@@eagle5818 it's still presuppositional fallacy. It's absolutely dishonest to make such assumptions. It's like "here's an idea that I really like and have an emotional attachment to, which has to be true, because I say so and if you don't agree, you're wrong because I'm automatically right!"
@@eagle5818 What is here on earth is not similar to what is out there in the entire universe. You simply can't understand how most of it functions. And you've come to a conclusion it surely has a creator because your Laptop has one? What we can see is a very small part of the whole. This is where we come up against what is so far an impenetrable wall in our knowledge. We have to break through this before we can make any more real progress.
Also the coconut thing doesn't really work. The set is the coconuts. The fact that there are 7 coconuts makes those coconuts able to now be called a set. The set is material, because it is the coconuts.
7:27 is the one on the right the one where YHWH appears as a fire at night and smoke during the day? Now you're right that scientific fact can't in principle be used to argue against a claim of a miracle but by the same logic a miracle can not be used to argue in favour of anything at all
Why do people try to convince others to agree with their views? If one were truly confident of one’s faith, one would not try to seek affirmation from others. This is akin to seeking validation. Do we fallen humans need the permission of other fallen humans to seek unity with the Creator?
It its love for wha you believe and for God, if God exist you would like to have the betterunderstanding possible of him wouldnt you? We are fallen humans as you say, and we cant know everything, when we talk with each other and understand others positions we get a better understanding of what we think its true, you would make the same with math, with biology, etc, thats real skepticism, you know that you can be worng but atrongly believe in that, so you get all the proofs and all the things that disprove your beliefe in order to make a stronger belief, its theology, its loving your belief, and studying something, you cant learn if you assume you have everything right, so you learn from others in your fallen nature, guide through the Holy Spirit
As well if God exist, and there is someone that doesnt believe in him for diferent reasons, wouldt it be respomsable for us to teach to that person about God? At the same time, we dont believe in hin because he force us, because we have free will and that has its consequences, even if you would see directly God, you could say that it was an allucination, so rationality its the best way to believe, and humans are usually only convience by other humans or by themselves, as some atheist put, they even would not believe in God if there were Crushing proofs
@@juandavidguarnizogutierrez4566, Why is it your responsibility to “teach” others anything? Why would a person get a “better” understanding from another person? That presupposes the other person is “more” knowledgeable.
@@pmaitrasm Because we all get from diferent backgrounds, and even if other person is "less" knowledgeable, even in that case you can learn about that experience and support your own knowledge, we build knowledge as humans together, even if You Believe in God or Not, the nature of Knowledge its Collective, for example without The work of Euclid Newton would not be abble to develop Calc. Its humbling One self and understanding that one self doesnt Have all the asnwers, because we have a limit mind, knowledge its bigger than any human brain, and needs time to develop, knowledge about something depends on time, and learning from others helps us. The same its with Faith, we take some Axiom, and then we build upon there with collective knowledge and understanding of logic and faith working together
I love Richard Dawkins. He’s like the drunk atheist uncle I never had and he’s got an Oxford accent to boot. Every time I see him I just wanna have a beer with him and watch Star Trek. I wouldn’t argue with the guy. See I’d tell him “You know, you and I have something in common, neither of us is willing to be convinced. But I don’t like to argue with anyone when I wouldn’t be willing to concede thier point even if they were right. So what do you say we forget the apologetics and do something fun, eh Dick?”
The meme of a Robot created by X company and human without a creator is one of the worst pieces of content you can use to try to make people believe anything
Μπορεί κάποιος να μου εξηγήσει στα ελληνικά το παράδειγμα του Jay με τις καρύδες και τις μπανάνες; Δυσκολεύομαι να καταλάβω μερικούς όρους. Much love Kyle❤
Looking for new Reddit Atheist™ content to deboonk? Try looking at some of Ocean Keltoi's content. You'll get some really good content of your own out of it.
TAG might prove that logic is transcendental; it proves that transcendentals exist. Period. It should be be called the TAT (Transcendental argument for transcendentals). Establishing transcendentals as a legitimate category doesn’t in and of itself prove any particular transcendental entities; those require further demonstration. If you say God is not a transcendental entity, but is required to ground them, I ask how? How does God ground them. As far as I know, it is simply an assertion without justification. If you want to define God as “that which grounds transcendentals”, that is fine. But then you would have to argue how this “God” is the same “God” of any particular revelation. “The axiom of logic” and “the God in the burning bush” need to have a lot of dots connected.
I see atheism of more of not confirming to God rather than saying he doesnt exist (even though thats what it is at its core), whats the best way of not confirming to something? believing it doesnt exist at all. because once you have the knowledge that there is a divine, omnipotent all powerful all knowing being that is the source of existence in all its meaning, what can you possibly do with that information? ...trying to have a relationship with that being would be the first step, the first of many winding steps. I feel like most arguments for atheism come from a place of hubris, others come from a place of hurt or mistreatment. But one from logic? never come across one (atleast not yet lol)
LOL I love theists man. The laws of logic wouldn't matter at all if you removed the humans 😭Math is immaterial yet it would still exist even if humans were gone. Who else is going to use it? The concept of time is immaterial yet it would still exist in humans were gone. Who else is going to use that? Why does it need any justification anyway? You're working on an assumption that it NEEDS to be justified and I find it funny that you want to bash another's interpretation of philosophy when yours isn't any better. Logic is literally a product of a sophisticated brain that holds value to us simply because we think it holds value on us. It doesn't hold value to a plant. It doesn't hold value to a fish. It holds value to us because we've built our world around logic. However, it's lack of physical state and it's lack of quantification doesn't point to God. You would never be able to attribute it to him because there is an equal probability that other gods, for example, made it. I say equal probability because there is no difference in evidence for god compared to other gods. Even if logic is as inexplicable as you say, why does logic necessarily have to point to a divine being? Why does it point to your God? There is no evidence for the divinity of Jesus or God himself lol. You guys also glaze statistical feats and appeal to ridicule to prove him. The fact that the universe happened, the argument of the "fine-tuned" constants of the universe, etc. are genuinely statistical feats, but that doesn't mean that we should attribute it to a divine being. There are many things that are seen as impossible yet statistically, in terms of the universe, there was a chance for it to happen. Even if the universe was created by a divine being, again, what points to your god being that divine being?
as a Christian myself, i find it so interesting that Atheists will try to debunk the existence of God the Father, a being not one single person on this earth has ever seen before, but yet they still for whatever reason hold tightly to His existence. if God didn’t want us knowing about Him, He wouldn’t have allowed us to conceive of Him. Atheists try so hard to disprove of God’s existence, but with their line-of-thinking, what is there for them to disprove? if God doesn’t exist, why bother? God created humans, and the human heart is incredibly deceitful. it lies, cheats, judges, and there are people who follow their hearts. i wonder where that might get them when looking for God, or lack thereof.
People disprove your fairy's existence to make your people shut up and stop annoying them. Since you're admitting no-one has seen your fairy and also knowing nothing with the scientific method can even point towards your fairy it's safe to say your fairy isn't a real thing.
Kyle know body truly knows if there is a god no body and to say you know is pure dishonesty knowbody knows what happens after death we will just have to find out when we die.
hi fellow traveler! on the topic of logic: if we don't agree on logic, we will have a hard time agreeing on anything in the material reality. i assume you don't really refuse those premises, for otherwise a madman would be hard to distingiush. you frame atheists as "deniers of god" which is an incorrect use of the term. atheists infact just don't need a god that matches your believe system for their worldview to align. this leads to you arguing against a strawman that is not atheism (alex oconnor is a great example arguing for this case). science cannot explain everything - agreed. the keyword you are looking for here is "god of the gaps" - the thing is, just because i don't know certain specifics that doesn't make your theory true by default. you can call it god or big bang, but very soon afterwards physics etc. account for a lot of the defining features of what we experience all the time. yes, most people have religious experiences of various kinds, that doesn't help argue for your specific believe system though. so you did check out some of alex's content, awesome! 9:10 "through revelation we know" - you quoted epistemology earlier in the video, so i assume you have your's somewhat straight. i'll leave you a question for yourself: is the kind of revelation you experience a good way to get a common understanding of truth between humans? another hard one to bite: determinism now you make up another strawman: "darwinian evolution is just random" - check out Forrest Valkai for detailled explanations on how evolution works and what evidence we have for those theories credits for calling out the bs on "there are no immaterial things". that was a very stupid sentence indeed. seems like most of the rest of the video is you cornering him over a silly point derived from that. poor guy, you sliced him like a corner stand sausage, but also not very entertaining. hearts and hugs
Very interesting development ‼I filmed this video MANY Months ago AND now Famous Atheist Richard Dawkins Says He Considers Himself a ‘Cultural Christian’ and is having regrets about promoting Atheism...The cultural Christian position rejects the beliefs of Christianity but glorifies all of its fruits.🙏☦ Pray for Richard Dawkins ✨☦
Maybe Richard Dawkins redemption arc
Have you ever listen to Bill donahues teachings? He has some interesting views. I'm currently in catechumen and have yet to see an orthodox talk about him. Could you check him out?
As he said it long time ago
It would be such a historical moment if he got to have a conversation/debate with any decent and competent Orthodox apologist out there
Christianity is great for the working class because it helps them cope with how crappy their life is but as a member of the ownership class I don't have any inclination to believe in any of it. But if Christianity is what it takes for people to work hard for little money and accept all sorts of hardship I guess I'll just have to deal with living in Christian taliban if that keeps my dividends coming.
Bro really made a top 5 video trying to debunk thousands of years of theology.
Well at least he’s a bro
I know, those thousands of years of theology are so lame, I don't think you need 5 to debunk them 😎
Become an agnostic atheist
Buddhism is 2,500 years old, bad point
@@michaelbeach7988 - We don't even know what the original Buddhists taught because their earliest religious texts are 300 years after Buddha's death. Buddhism also underwent some changes during the 4th century, after Christians had visited India, suggesting that Buddhism attempted to copy Christianity. This is why there are no "similarities" between Buddha and Jesus until the 4th century.
Meanwhile, the New Testament is literally the most reliable ancient source, written within 100 years of Jesus's life, and the gospels offer reliable eyewitness accounts. Christianity is also the fulfillment of Old Testament (not modern) Judaism, making it roots far older than Buddhism.
@@josephb.4640 I’m converting to orthodoxy. You don’t have to convince me the New Testament is reliable. I’m just saying that appealing to the age of a religion showing it’s truth is not a good point
Jesus Christ is the King of kings, and the only hope of salvation for mankind
-Richard Dawkins, 2025
pray for Dawkins 🙏
We can only hope and pray 🙏🏾
Hope he'll repent like King Manasseh
2026: Richard Dawkins: i'm considering retaking Constantinople 😂
Hi guy lovely content . He is being ignorant on saying that Which god ? I see that the same god has been interpreted differently . Hinduism isnt a polytheistic ideology its a polymorphision . Its said that a god which is all powerful and all prevading and is in every on of us has different forms . Forms to punish the unrightousness and the forms to show us the paths of true rightousness and do a greater good . Its believed that Krishna is the supreme couciousness and the one who has diffrent forms , All knowledge leads to him and without knowledge you cant understand him . I am not trying to convert as there is no type of conversion thing in The hindu culture its said that the world is your family and the greatest myth is that hinduism is a religion , it isnt , its more important to perform your Dharma than to believe in god . Believe in god is done to move forward and to be deattached from your actions fruits . All i am trying to convey is that richard dawkins is wrong when he says that "Which god" cause every belief says and talks about one true god even hinduism .
Honestly I love Dawkins now because he is just making atheism more absurd
There are atheists right now who are atheistic towards religions that even you would regard as false. Nothing about them seems absurd. If the only religion I was aware of was mormonism, or the cannibal Agori tribe in India, I'd definitely be an atheist.
@@lordberossus2545 - That's...not the definition of atheism. Atheism posits that there's no God. Rejecting certain religions means that you reject certain models of God (or gods), but you can still believe in God.
I kind of see your point, as some people may simply be unaware of a coherent model of God, but ultimately, this is just a rephrased version of the "you reject all the gods too; I only reject one more God than you!" fallacy.
@@josephb.4640 *"I kind of see your point, as some people may simply be unaware of a coherent model of God"*
Most people are. They accept the ontology of gods existence without being able to epistemologically lead themselves there.
*"but ultimately, this is just a rephrased version of the "you reject all the gods too; I only reject one more God than you!" fallacy."*
It's not a fallacy because its not an argument. Pointing out that you are entirely aware of what it feels like to off handedly reject peoples obviously mythological stories isn't an argument. It's a fact. If I told you anything about norse mythology it would sound as if I'm describing a marvel movie.
@@lordberossus2545 I think all religions other than orthodoxy are false. I did my research. Your argument doesn’t apply
@@lordberossus2545 - Except, of course, Christianity is extremely well-substantiated by the historical record and cannot be accurately described as "mythology."
It’s interesting. As a kid I was a cultural Christian and nothing more. Richard Dawkins is the one that made me admit to myself that I was an atheist at heart and made me search for God in earnest.
So I kinda owe my real faith to Dawkins.
Interesting how that happened
Lord works in a mysterious ways....
My atheist neighbor convinced me of TAG and I was Orthodox within a year 😂
God can use a crooked stick to guide people
What he intended for evil, God used for good.
All things point to God, even the atheists.
@@bayzedgossiper2852 hey mate, what does TAG mean? Ive seen it everywhere?!
I can't listen to Richard Dawkins without hearing Jay Dyers impression of him! 😂
I do a pretty good dawkins voice too if I do say so myself
When you’re in a mental gymnastics challenge and your opponent is Richard Dawkins 😳
I am culturally a Christian and i love hymns and Christmas Carol's and overall Christianity is a very decent Religion.
- Richard Dawkins.
"and I believe in some kind of higher intelligence who may have created and designed everything so perfectly"
this will not matter on judgement day. Dawkins gets hell
He only says this because he prefers it to Islam, which is rapidly growing in the West due to mass migration. I don’t blame him
"I'm ashamed to admit I was wrong and I can't believe there's forgiveness for me so I'll act like the people I was laughing at without being one of them" crazy stuff
@@aaronmusa234how are you so certain he won't repent
Lmao, he will literally believe in wild fantasies about aliens seeding the earth, but belief in God is a bridge too far? 🤣🤣🤡🤡
"life on earth could be designed by a supremely intelligent being, but it just can't be God because I don't like God, it could be an alien tho"
~le smart atheist man
@@joeyn985Yea because space aliens dont want to throw me into eternal fire and suffering just because i didnt believe in a god,makes sense? 😂
@@kano1652 1) how would you know that? Are you saying you have faith in benevolent alien gods?
2) so you aren't rejecting God based on the evidence, since you acknowledge that life on earth seems to be designed, you just reject God because you don't like God. Your personal preference doesn't determine what's true.
@@joeyn985 Well god clearly stated that hes gonna throw people into the pit of fire if i wont believe in him and im sorry but i never saw him,never heard him talk and the scriptures? Please,they were written my men without any divine inspiration,i never claimed that i believed that everything is designed,how are disabled people designed exactly? People with the most fucked up ilnesses since birth? Yea god designed them real good 🤦🏻♂️ If i was god i would never ever throw my own creation into eternal torture for such a petty thing like believing in me
@@joeyn985 No interest in arguing if my comments get deleted,i wrote a whole paragraph,anyway im not interested believing in such a god
The odds we are here as humans and can think about the world is extremely close to zero.
Not considering a mutliverse with infinite possibilities
How do you know that the odds are close to zero!?
@@visiblehuman3705 it was revealed to me
@@sebozz2046 and where can I see this multiverse mr?
@@sebozz2046 was responding to OP
I remember talking to an elder while waiting at my tribal health clinic. He was a Rocket scientist from the 70s through to the late 90s and even had creds. He asked me point blank if i believed in God. I wasnt too kin on God at the time because I was freshly out of the JWs and Christianity had a bad taste in my mouth.
It took me back and I listened to him as he told me that most scientists believes in God and to not believe the sterotype that scientists and medical people are atheists. He said everything is too finely tuned for all of this to happen by random chance. I was about 20 at that time and now im in my early 30s and still think about that encounter.
scientists are largely atheist because the natural world does not need a god for it to carry on the way it does
Jay dyer is destroyer of atheist with fancy word
He had a whole battle purely about semantics, and then after the other person was sufficient confused he hit em with the your position is self refuting get a better education... what a joke 😂 listening to that was painful just because of how fruitless it was. and I'd be suprised if anyone could untangle the mess of words he spewed into an actual concise response.
@@mintyfresh524when your opponent have low education, the first thing you do is teach them the correct semantics. Cult tactics always pervert the meaning of word to confuse audience, that is their only way to avoid embarrassment
Someone needs to make a video of people trying to guess which quotes are from Dawkins and which are from Hannibal Lecter. I can pretty easily imagine a video playing clips of both mixed with some Dawkins inpressions from Jay.
I'm a rational atheist procedes to make an unrational statement
"I don't have to prove anything" was my favorite thing to say in the third grade when I was being argumentative while knowing I was wrong. Funny to see Dawkins is a celebrated intellectual renowned for arguing like a child.
The empty Petri dish I placed in my lab still empty… I’m still waiting for the first step to magically appear and start replicating. Cmon Darwin.
The petri dish will be infected with bacteria before abiogenesis takes place
I literally have thought about the minecraft example and was playing it while watching this, thanks for making such good videos kyle🙏❤️
thank you! God bless!
bro is approaching death and becoming a realizooooooor
I think the worst part is he's assuming god cannot be created, and must have an origin. But this is literally just putting God into a box, the bible literally states he's eternal and uncreated
What's really bad is that they'll demand "who created God", but then claim that the universe is infinite and eternal and uncreated.
No itd always Theist logic that everything needed a creator. An Atheist says if that is so then why dont need a creator. Look until now we havent found any solid proof how universe was created. However, religion also have no proof how their god created universe and where is god? If we dont know about anuthing, isnt it fair to say, "we dont know". Science says that, "we dont know yet how universe was created, we are still seeking proof and traces". Until we dont found one, why do we need to believe god. Eitherway, An Atheist is living a wonderful life without believing in god. So is there even any benefit in believing in god?
@@joeyn985then they'll say some shit that there could be mulitple universes with infinite possibilites, yet dont account for the fact God would be in one of them, therfore, he would be in all of them as he is all powerful
@@cod3368 that's a good one lol. If there are infinite universes then theoretically there is a universe where Jesus was actually God in the flesh and resurrected. And if there's one universe where God exists, He's infinite and eternal, so He's real in all of them
despite me being a Protestant,i really like your content and the fact youre defending Christianity from these psychos is remarkable.
Same. I’m also Protestant.
Keep watching, he has a playlist made for protestants ❤. God bless
@@redwojak5182 I’m not new to Eastern orthodoxy and I learned about it from Greek Orthodox family members. While I respect it and prefer it to Catholicism, I just don’t see myself joining anytime soon. God bless ✝️☦️
@@thephotoshopper5908why not? Protestantism has no Epistemology beyond personal Bible interpretation, and technically absolutely nothing, even the Biblical canon is binding
Why a psycho?
the infamous coconut banana incident
Supervillain Richard Dawkins 😮
Submit to Christ ☦️
Why a villain?
@@visiblehuman3705 It’s an inside joke, he speaks like a movie villain.
God is just to outlandish but aliens flying around jizzing on planets is a perfectly viable conclusion. LOL
I had a argument with and atheist that logic doesn’t prove anything and I told him that there is no point in arguing then then he was like “no” very eye opening
God Creating the Universe =
“THIS IS CRAZY!”☝🏻🤓
Star Wars alien people making the universe =
“this makes perfect sense”☝🏻🤓
God when natural disasters happen : 🥱🥱🥱
God when someone with the right mind doesn't believe in him : 😡😡😭😱😭
@@mrhackerdz5431 1) we live in a fallen world, bad things happen because we chose to violate the rules given to us,
(or if demons/Satan causes these bad things to happen)
2) hell is the one place without God, you either choose to be with him or without him.
@JDO145 a parent loves their child, yet they punish their children when they bahave bad.
@JDO145 God wouldn’t let us do bad things if he was all loving
@@EnglishOrthodoxAh yes , a loving parent . Thousands of years looking for space milk and punishing the kids for not loving him back. Not a good father figure I reckon
The final boss of euphoria™
RD has the constipated expression of one whom one may encounter on a bus grumbling openly about all and sundry and especially the bus driver.
You type british
God bless you Kyle, from Kuwait
God bless 🙏
24:44 This confuses me about Philo classes (assuming the atheist is taking Philo classes). The dude Jay is talking to is referencing figures like Descartes and Hume but only read "some" of Plato.
Shouldnt Philo classes start with people like Aristotle and Plato? Genuine question cause I never took a Philosophy class
We need more videos like this. Thank you, Kyle
At least he gave us memes
One of my fave videos of yours. Your points are so simple and consice. Cant have science without god!
Gotta say your edits in your videos are top tier!!! 😆👍
I realized recently that I could've been referring to him as Dick Dockins this whole time and I'm mildly irritated that I didn't notice sooner.
Name calling is too far, pray for him, bro 😀 idk if ur Christian so
I am a believing orthodox christian so do not think I am an atheist coming with critique. I do have one question though, specifically how does the transcendental argument for God prove God?
It pressupose a God.
I love the clip going over the argument against materialism. Please share more like this I love your atheist series!!! Seriously you're one of the best youtube channels out there. I'm not orthodox nor do I condone people converting but I love your channel
Were here to learn more and to glorify our Father, praise to God that Richard Dawkins is starting to turn to christ!
Where in this video did you see that he's supposedly starting to turn to Christ? It would be awesome if he did, but why do you think he is?
Blessed Holy and Great Lent everybody
Could somebody explain me Jay Dyer's dialogue with the atheist,because I got confused? Thank you,God bless
I think you should reduce the segment of putting Dyer in your videos, we get it you have a celebrity crush but thats why we have dyer's clips channel. Create your own content or refer to him in the end.
This
I add in other creators because I think it is useful to make a point AND it promotes their channel...
For example, I have included Jay Dyer, Anandaapologetics, Jeemapologetics, Drew in my Mormon video, my friend Jon in my best Christian movies video, Fr Peter heers, etc etc
Show me on the doll where Jay hurt you.
Accusing Kyle of having a “celebrity crush” is very ghaye of you.
I've been binge watching your videos I got to say really good stuff
The big problem that jumps out at me from the logic thing is that even within our own universe things happen that we don't consider to be logical at a very small scales in the form of Quantum Mechanics
The fallcious reasoning is strong with this one
Super skepticism is absolute joke
daaang this is the first time i see an orthodox christian going for richard dawkins. popcorn time!
They believe that by repeating their brainless "points" every time they speak they will eventually make sense
I don’t understand the whole seven thing, but then again I never studied philosophy
Name of song in the background at 11:00?
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1) Logic is necessarily true, because we deem it to he necessarily true, we can say logic governs logic, but that's circular, and that's fine because it's supposed to be, the issue arises, when we try to our logical tools are actually 1 to 1 correspondences to reality. Which isn't necessarily true. And even if we go off observation or empirical evidence, these are just inductions.
2) assuming creation that needs a creator is only implied to be within the vacuum of the universe and not the universe itself, it's begging the question if you just assume it to apply to the container of reality to the the substance within the container, and that's also assuming the universe began to begin with ~ the rule of God being eternal could just be applied to the universe, the big bang is only evidence of the expansion all else is speculation without further evidence, and the universe within a 4D or 5D perspective could be eternal, while we 4D being experience time linearly
Kinda lazy to finish the rest
Okay buddy.
Great video!
You’ve not watched it yet
It's still great
@@logicus.thomistica im watching it
@@OrthoYhos you posted this comment 49 seconds into the video
@@logicus.thomistica and now i finished and say great video, cheers
An answer is the foundational law of chemistry ( Lavoisier), handreds of years, and 2.7 thousand years in Democritos: "Nothing comes from no existense"
That was a good video ❤️🔥☦️🔥
God bless you ❤️
As a Protestant I must say I like your arguments against atheism in particular :)
As a cultural christian, i believe in the essentials of christianity and creeds but i do not believe in a God
Yo! My boy Orthoaople is back!
Wake up guys, another Kyle video !! 😍
I would love to see you do a video on darkmatter2525. He has been an atheist TH-camr almost as long as Aaron ra.
Darkmatter2525 is the worst atheist on TH-cam imo.
He’s got the cocky attitude I hate seeing in ant group, be it religion, philosophy, or political.
Can someone explain me what tf is going on in 2 kings 2:23-24 and genesis 11:1-9? Im confused asf
Islam also claims if you choose wrong you will be burned forever yet you pass off those claims and are sure you're going to heaven but we could live the same life over and over again we could be reincarnated we could go to heaven hell we could just die and be gone no one knows the details of the afterlife except those who are dead but the fact consciousness likely cannot continue without a physical brain suggests there be nothing after death which is something
You see a young man folding an old man, supposed "intellectual", into a pocket with simple questions. How an old man without God in his life is blind, even though he has much more living experience than that young man.
For that i can only remind you of
Matthew 11:25 -
At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
How amaizing that is. All glory to the Lord!
Sftu for fu*k sake dude, folding ?? Dude used the bible as a source, if anything more stupid to back up your argument with is this fairy tale book you mfs believe in, and say we blinded ?? Yes if being not restarted and not believing in your fairy book brings blindness so be it, all you guys do is play with words and feelings which is sick
If a woman pursues a relationship with me. We then get married. I then show her no attention, care, consideration, or even speak to her once during our marriage. She then divorces me bc of this. I then proceed to set her on fire for divorcing me. Did I love my wife?
All your logic is flawed from the very beginning, you are just arguing that “because we don’t know what created the universe, it MUST be god,” also how can you simply just not accept the theory of evolution? Have you opened a book besides the Bible??
There’s always a creator, it doesn’t matter “what” created the universe, whatever that thing is - we call God. It’s the purest form of logic you can get, it’s not flawed.
@@eagle5818 it's still presuppositional fallacy. It's absolutely dishonest to make such assumptions. It's like "here's an idea that I really like and have an emotional attachment to, which has to be true, because I say so and if you don't agree, you're wrong because I'm automatically right!"
@@eagle5818 What is here on earth is not similar to what is out there in the entire universe. You simply can't understand how most of it functions. And you've come to a conclusion it surely has a creator because your Laptop has one?
What we can see is a very small part of the whole. This is where we come up against what is so far an impenetrable wall in our knowledge. We have to break through this before we can make any more real progress.
It's like watching A Christmas Carol happen in Real Life, except in terms of Christianity.
Richard Dawkins: "God isn't real"
Also Richard Dawkins: "memes are alive"
Based Richard
Also the coconut thing doesn't really work. The set is the coconuts. The fact that there are 7 coconuts makes those coconuts able to now be called a set. The set is material, because it is the coconuts.
Classic example of how to confuse something that is simple with complicated semantics.
The Apple dude always kills me 😭😭
7:27 is the one on the right the one where YHWH appears as a fire at night and smoke during the day? Now you're right that scientific fact can't in principle be used to argue against a claim of a miracle but by the same logic a miracle can not be used to argue in favour of anything at all
Logic is just a description of characteristics of our universe.
Brother can you make a video on the rosary
Why do people try to convince others to agree with their views? If one were truly confident of one’s faith, one would not try to seek affirmation from others. This is akin to seeking validation. Do we fallen humans need the permission of other fallen humans to seek unity with the Creator?
You are trying to convince us of this
It its love for wha you believe and for God, if God exist you would like to have the betterunderstanding possible of him wouldnt you? We are fallen humans as you say, and we cant know everything, when we talk with each other and understand others positions we get a better understanding of what we think its true, you would make the same with math, with biology, etc, thats real skepticism, you know that you can be worng but atrongly believe in that, so you get all the proofs and all the things that disprove your beliefe in order to make a stronger belief, its theology, its loving your belief, and studying something, you cant learn if you assume you have everything right, so you learn from others in your fallen nature, guide through the Holy Spirit
As well if God exist, and there is someone that doesnt believe in him for diferent reasons, wouldt it be respomsable for us to teach to that person about God? At the same time, we dont believe in hin because he force us, because we have free will and that has its consequences, even if you would see directly God, you could say that it was an allucination, so rationality its the best way to believe, and humans are usually only convience by other humans or by themselves, as some atheist put, they even would not believe in God if there were Crushing proofs
@@juandavidguarnizogutierrez4566, Why is it your responsibility to “teach” others anything? Why would a person get a “better” understanding from another person? That presupposes the other person is “more” knowledgeable.
@@pmaitrasm Because we all get from diferent backgrounds, and even if other person is "less" knowledgeable, even in that case you can learn about that experience and support your own knowledge, we build knowledge as humans together, even if You Believe in God or Not, the nature of Knowledge its Collective, for example without The work of Euclid Newton would not be abble to develop Calc. Its humbling One self and understanding that one self doesnt Have all the asnwers, because we have a limit mind, knowledge its bigger than any human brain, and needs time to develop, knowledge about something depends on time, and learning from others helps us. The same its with Faith, we take some Axiom, and then we build upon there with collective knowledge and understanding of logic and faith working together
Good work! Poor old muddled Dawkins not only can't argue coherently on this subject but he also comes over as an bitter, very unhappy person.
I love Richard Dawkins. He’s like the drunk atheist uncle I never had and he’s got an Oxford accent to boot. Every time I see him I just wanna have a beer with him and watch Star Trek. I wouldn’t argue with the guy. See I’d tell him “You know, you and I have something in common, neither of us is willing to be convinced. But I don’t like to argue with anyone when I wouldn’t be willing to concede thier point even if they were right. So what do you say we forget the apologetics and do something fun, eh Dick?”
It’s hard for me to grasp how someone can live a regular life while believing there's no God, even over a million years.
I have no idea what Jay was talking about.
Neither do the atheist
Richard is literally the pioneer of meme .
The meme of a Robot created by X company and human without a creator is one of the worst pieces of content you can use to try to make people believe anything
Μπορεί κάποιος να μου εξηγήσει στα ελληνικά το παράδειγμα του Jay με τις καρύδες και τις μπανάνες; Δυσκολεύομαι να καταλάβω μερικούς όρους.
Much love Kyle❤
...What are your thoughts on Heidegger's 'Dasein?'
Dude... where did the Ortho-beard go.???
He has lots of older unedited videos to upload
Looking for new Reddit Atheist™ content to deboonk? Try looking at some of Ocean Keltoi's content. You'll get some really good content of your own out of it.
could u get a conversation with trent horn? like catholiscm vs ortho
Calls himself Epicurus, has a Martin Luther pfp
TAG might prove that logic is transcendental; it proves that transcendentals exist. Period. It should be be called the TAT (Transcendental argument for transcendentals). Establishing transcendentals as a legitimate category doesn’t in and of itself prove any particular transcendental entities; those require further demonstration. If you say God is not a transcendental entity, but is required to ground them, I ask how? How does God ground them. As far as I know, it is simply an assertion without justification. If you want to define God as “that which grounds transcendentals”, that is fine. But then you would have to argue how this “God” is the same “God” of any particular revelation. “The axiom of logic” and “the God in the burning bush” need to have a lot of dots connected.
I see atheism of more of not confirming to God rather than saying he doesnt exist (even though thats what it is at its core), whats the best way of not confirming to something? believing it doesnt exist at all. because once you have the knowledge that there is a divine, omnipotent all powerful all knowing being that is the source of existence in all its meaning, what can you possibly do with that information? ...trying to have a relationship with that being would be the first step, the first of many winding steps.
I feel like most arguments for atheism come from a place of hubris, others come from a place of hurt or mistreatment. But one from logic? never come across one (atleast not yet lol)
LOL I love theists man. The laws of logic wouldn't matter at all if you removed the humans 😭Math is immaterial yet it would still exist even if humans were gone. Who else is going to use it? The concept of time is immaterial yet it would still exist in humans were gone. Who else is going to use that? Why does it need any justification anyway? You're working on an assumption that it NEEDS to be justified and I find it funny that you want to bash another's interpretation of philosophy when yours isn't any better. Logic is literally a product of a sophisticated brain that holds value to us simply because we think it holds value on us. It doesn't hold value to a plant. It doesn't hold value to a fish. It holds value to us because we've built our world around logic. However, it's lack of physical state and it's lack of quantification doesn't point to God. You would never be able to attribute it to him because there is an equal probability that other gods, for example, made it. I say equal probability because there is no difference in evidence for god compared to other gods.
Even if logic is as inexplicable as you say, why does logic necessarily have to point to a divine being? Why does it point to your God? There is no evidence for the divinity of Jesus or God himself lol. You guys also glaze statistical feats and appeal to ridicule to prove him. The fact that the universe happened, the argument of the "fine-tuned" constants of the universe, etc. are genuinely statistical feats, but that doesn't mean that we should attribute it to a divine being. There are many things that are seen as impossible yet statistically, in terms of the universe, there was a chance for it to happen. Even if the universe was created by a divine being, again, what points to your god being that divine being?
Isn't creatio ex nihilo what Christians ie god and the universe came from nothing?
please react to cristopher hitchens
11:00 song?
is this an old video orrrr?
as a Christian myself, i find it so interesting that Atheists will try to debunk the existence of God the Father, a being not one single person on this earth has ever seen before, but yet they still for whatever reason hold tightly to His existence. if God didn’t want us knowing about Him, He wouldn’t have allowed us to conceive of Him. Atheists try so hard to disprove of God’s existence, but with their line-of-thinking, what is there for them to disprove? if God doesn’t exist, why bother? God created humans, and the human heart is incredibly deceitful. it lies, cheats, judges, and there are people who follow their hearts. i wonder where that might get them when looking for God, or lack thereof.
People disprove your fairy's existence to make your people shut up and stop annoying them. Since you're admitting no-one has seen your fairy and also knowing nothing with the scientific method can even point towards your fairy it's safe to say your fairy isn't a real thing.
Kyle know body truly knows if there is a god no body and to say you know is pure dishonesty knowbody knows what happens after death we will just have to find out when we die.
What a heinous villain we must stop him at all costs!!!!!!
hi fellow traveler!
on the topic of logic: if we don't agree on logic, we will have a hard time agreeing on anything in the material reality. i assume you don't really refuse those premises, for otherwise a madman would be hard to distingiush.
you frame atheists as "deniers of god" which is an incorrect use of the term. atheists infact just don't need a god that matches your believe system for their worldview to align. this leads to you arguing against a strawman that is not atheism (alex oconnor is a great example arguing for this case).
science cannot explain everything - agreed. the keyword you are looking for here is "god of the gaps" - the thing is, just because i don't know certain specifics that doesn't make your theory true by default. you can call it god or big bang, but very soon afterwards physics etc. account for a lot of the defining features of what we experience all the time.
yes, most people have religious experiences of various kinds, that doesn't help argue for your specific believe system though.
so you did check out some of alex's content, awesome!
9:10 "through revelation we know" - you quoted epistemology earlier in the video, so i assume you have your's somewhat straight. i'll leave you a question for yourself: is the kind of revelation you experience a good way to get a common understanding of truth between humans?
another hard one to bite: determinism
now you make up another strawman: "darwinian evolution is just random" - check out Forrest Valkai for detailled explanations on how evolution works and what evidence we have for those theories
credits for calling out the bs on "there are no immaterial things". that was a very stupid sentence indeed. seems like most of the rest of the video is you cornering him over a silly point derived from that. poor guy, you sliced him like a corner stand sausage, but also not very entertaining.
hearts and hugs
He wants fruit while chopping down the orchard
Debate Alex O'Connor on the existence of God
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Hi
Wait this is an old video
Smug Athiest's (most athiests) test my resolve, but i pray for them none the less. Glory to God!
Laughing and learning
Can you debunk Dan McClellan?
One does not simply debunk Dan McClellan
What a terrible video from the get go.
Logic does not require a belief in god - whatsoever.
You sure about that?
Is god heterosexual?
Nothing is said about that. But He did create heterosexual marriages for a reason