@@mirellaurueta3541 bro, I'm christian but I don't think this argument makes sense, 'cause the definition of essence is "what's most basic, most central, the most characteristic of a being or of a something", and I and my father have the same essence of being a human, we share the same nature, but we aren't the same being. If you can identify some wrong statement in my argumentation, I'd like a lot, because I'm confused a lot about this matter of trinity.
@@shahilshadadislam4627 historically proven Jesus existed 100% and it is proven HE WAS CRUCIFIED. That alone destroys everything about your book. Jesus is the only way to the FATHER.
@@shahilshadadislam4627 I did not say you didnt believed he existed. I said historically proven its a facts he was crucified. And also who was crucified then?
@@shahilshadadislam4627 It doesnt say, and also the gospel of barnabas is rejected by MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS SCHOLARS. You can search. Hope Jesus appears to you man, He is the only way. Hope you are good and your family too!
That’s why the west needs to stop this freedom of religion BS, if people come to our country they should assimilate to the culture and religion. And muslims in strict Islamic states are disgusting, they have their way with women and if they get caught they stone the woman to death..
They rely on that. You become a muslim, sunshine and rainbows, and then the story of what muhammed and his criminal fraternity did to kids and captured slaves comes out in a trickle But you can’t leave without a death sentence Lol
How could you expect sneako know all the complexities of a religion that scholars have been examining for centuries. The simple fact is that sneako identified that the central foundational doctrine of Christianity is a logical impossibility and the Islamic one makes far more sense. Everything else follows from that core principle
A logically impossibility to someone who isn’t truly practicing their faith but further more, Islam makes more sense how? What metric did he use to come to that conclusion? Your own response shows no logic. Let’s be honest, the only response he converted is because someone he looks up to converted. Not by his own convictions or knowledge of the truth.
Hi Kyle it’s ananda here I’m getting people asking me to reach out and I’m the one who debated Sneako much love to you God bless you 🙏🏻♥️ (the Greek Orthodox)
We as a Muslim can say Christ is king because we believe that he is a prophet and one of the greatest man in history but we don't believe that he is God
@@SJ2024-pl8ub So you give him a title that belongs to allah? "al-Malik (Arabic: الملك), literally "the King", is a name that may refer to: The title King of Kings. One of the 99 names of God in Islam." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The most awful name in Allah's sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings). -Sahih al-Bukhari 6205 Stop with the taqiyya we can see through your bullshit. Times of Islam are over due to the internet and will go back to its starting place, the religion of the serpent. Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole. -Sahih Muslim 146
Jesus: Dies on a cross in 33 ad with hundreds of witnesses Muhammed: Born 570 ad - never having seen Jesus - "Jesus is not the Son of God" Clearly something isn't right.
Mohamed is not the author it's Allah's words. Jesus didnt die How can god get into the shape of his creation to sacrifice himself to save his creation from him (he will punish them for their sins) The bible says "the father is greater than i" How there be levels of gods Rethink your religion before talking
@@dark_sun1297 In the Old Testament, the wages of sin are death, so Jesus came down from Heaven to take the sins of the world as our punishment. All of us have sinned and all of us should have died, but Jesus came and conquered death, overtaking the wages of death. Also I understand that Muslims believe the Quran is the word of Allah, but Muhammed preached the Quran that says Jesus wasn't the son of God, so he had made the claim that Jesus was not the son of God. Also the term "greater" in the statement that Jesus makes doesn't refer to levels of God, I don't know where you got that from. Jesus is simply saying the Father is able cause Him (as well as the Spirit) as we believe the Father is the monarch of the Trinity. Only He is able to cause other persons. I have rethought my religion, and I have been studying it for the past year and a half and understand it quite well. I would rethink your religion as well, and all the violent, sexual and disgusting things you will find in it. I've spoken to ex-muslims who are now Christian, and they say that they were brainwashed into believing such things. If you want evidence of Christianity, look it up. There are plenty of good resources of evidence of the tomb, resurrection, miracles and more.
@@tbnrcreator.official this is not logical brother and u know this Because how could someone take your sin, it makes life useless Everybody's sins is forgiven?
I have been recently been doubting Christianity since i've converted in January but your video help me see the problem with other major religions and you help me see why Christ is king. Thank you very much for your work. Halleluja!
@@kmandromeda1156 Trinity makes more sense than Islam's Jesus where they call him a prophet but also say he was sinless and is the messiah and will judge mankind.
@@roland2982 Are you trying to say that the criteria for being god is that you're sinless and the messiah? Also (even if I grant your ridiculous criteria) that still doesn't make Christianity true, it would just make it make more sense than islam according to you
@@DM5550Z The Quran was just too contradictory, if Allah was so supreme and so mighty, why did he send Jesus just to fail? Why would Allah send to hell 2 billion people? Why does Allah forgive men for the most hated crimes, but hates women for even thinking wrong? That's when i read the bible, and i saw not "Allah" but the true Allah, God, who loves His children, who treated everyone equally, who made both man and woman to love eachother because they were of the same flesh. Allah in the Qu'ran is cruel, manipulative and evil While Allah in the Bible is loving, forgiving, and all knowing. I didn't donvert in a day, but slowly, i started to understand Jesus more than Mohammed. Quran (3:54, Allah is the best of decievers) Mark (13:22, Warned against a great deciever who would arrive) 2 Timothy (3:13, same as Mark) ^These are the main reasons why^
@@TheCommentor-because “Christianity” at the time of Jesus was the truth and Jesus spread the message that there is only one God and he prayed to that God, which is the same message as Islam. Over time it got corrupted due to mankind and so Allah gave Muhammad the true message which is there being only one God and he should be prayed to alone without having any partners. It’s simple really. Your kind is just too stupid to understand.
@@TheCommentor-i guess the whole “allah is the greatest deceiver” verse makes more sense now 😭 he made his people wait thousands of years for a messiah, then let them worship him for 600 more years and then just says “sike nah”
He is not a muslim, he made a joke about how muslims think islam is the best religion, and orthodox "hold my beer" means that wait, let me destroy them, so he doesnt think islam is right@@Unknown_Bag
There's a video called "Where Is Allah? Muslim Scholars Answer (Each Other)!" as a compilation of statements, which reflects exactly the disunity in Islam.
@@Omer1996E.C I don't see disunity is a negative affection of anything. I assume orthodoxpilgrimoffical, is a Christian. It's no problem with our religion to know that people have different ideas about God, or about tenets of our faith, and what it means to be a person striving to be like God, who we believe is Jesus Christ. I look at this comment, and I just interpret it, that yes Islam as well has different scholars, with different interpretations to express what they believe is true. God didn't give us all the answers, he never layed everything on the table and went >This is exactly what I am, this is exactly how I work, this is exactly what is me, what is my works, how I interact, how I mold God never did that, what we both agree on, God and existence is so confusing he has sent down more then the people needed to play football of prophets down to help guide people into the truth. Life, and how we relete to God, and God it's all confusing. I think a bigger thing, just me personally. When I encounter people who's faith is very "canned" think especially like mormons. A super cookie cutter response to experiences. Almost like they are not people. No exhibiting any signs of personal understanding or relationship with God. To me a sign of pure 100% unity is actually a disservice. We need agreement, but we are not God, so human error always exists, and when you have people whos faith is curated so hard to appear to have no human error. I intake that as fake
Jesus existed before he became a human being in the flesh. The son of God didn't come into existence through the birth of Jesus. The birth of Jesus is when the son of God manifested himself as Jesus, the man. And because he was born sinless, he became the new Adam.
@@TheCommentor-That is a false equivalence , because God existed before everting and the Quran definitely didn’t exist before his creator. You are the one who believe that the father generated the son.
The Christian you showed at speakers corner talking to sneako, his TH-cam channel is ananda apologetics, he’s only been Christian for less than a year I think and he’s this knowledgable it’s insane, he was a former Shia Muslim
@@Gb93017 I have asked him questions. I asked him if the trinity is one self or three selves. He refused to answer. This proves he believes in three gods. Any Muslim will answer that God is one self. Monotheism is one self. He refused to answer. It’s a sign that he can’t answer. Any answer will have huge implications for your trinity.🫠
What blows my mind is how Islam exist 600 years AFTER Jesus and they say Muhammad was the FIRST Muslim well how can Jesus be a Muslim when Muhammad BORN 600 years after Jesus be the first Muslim???? 😂
@@maxabdulhadi when why was Judaism first should’ve Islam been first this crap makes no sense which is why I can’t convert to Islam, they lie all the time
@@Sulaiman-ss6ll There was a clear reason as to why Islam's numbers are growing the fastest; birth rates. People are being born into islamic families, it doesn't represent conversions.
@@Sulaiman-ss6lldid Jesus say “only God is good, so don’t call me good”? No, he said “only God is good” try again lil bro, God bless and leave that cult started by an EDP wannabe
Muhammad syncretised arab paganism which is babylonic in it's origin and he merely coated it with abrahamic phraseology for political purposes. That way the new religion would be more easily accepted by arabs.
First of all, most Muslims are non-Arab. Secondly, Arab paganism was the main source of income for big Arab tribes, therefore would crush them financially. Islam isn't new. All prophets peace be upon them preached Islam. Muhammed peace be upon him reaffirms what was revealed to the prophets before him.
I just find Sneako's feigned confusion to be humorous. Clearly the concept of the triune God has been articulated. He's not trying to understand it, he seems compelled to reject it. It comes across to me that he knows the moral prescriptions implicates if Christianity is correct and doesn't want to live that way. Its why he embraced islam so quickly before understanding what the fullness of obedience to that religion would imply, and why he's growing away from that religion as well. Sneako is a prodigal running from any kind of duty and responsibility to God to be obedient. We pray that he tires of fleeing when nobody pursues and submits himself to God. The yoke is easy, the burden is light.
"Feigned confusion"? How can he possibly understand something that doesn't make logical sense. All trinitarians feign understanding or are at least humble enough to put it to a matter of faith.
As exhibited perfectly by the commenter above, all muslims do this. They begin with the insistence that it is impossible to understand, and put on a big show about how they can't understand it, proving that ignorance and low cognitive ability is highly valued in their religion.
Nice video Kyle! I am considering to convert to orthodoxy in the future. Your previous content was sometimes a bit too "online trol orthobro calling everyone a heretic-like", but this is way calmer and better.
@AlonzoHarris235 he was a monarchial trinitarian emphasizing the Father as sole cause. This is trinitarian. Watch Dr. Beau Branson on orthodox shahada talking about trinitarianism in context. If you understand was St. Iraneus meant, there's no way to interpret him as a non trinitarian. He refers to Jesus as our Lord, savior, and God numerous times through his writings, but he referred to the Father as the one true God because the Father is the sole cause of hypostasis in the trinity, not because the Father is metaphysical separate.
@@therealkingbaldwin This is nonsense. This is just a trinitarian spin of a historical text. Trying to use the trinity as a criteria to interpret a text to ‘prove’ a trinity. It’s completely circular.
@@AlonzoHarris235 You're actually describing the muslim approach to "prove" islam using the quran as sole criteria, stretching historical texts further than Mrs. Incredible looking for allah or muhammad
My concern isn’t that Sneako will never look into the matter and figure out Christianity is true, but that his pride will not allow him to admit he was wrong.
Yeah, as a person who struggles with pride..lol I can see it glowing from Sneako. I won't say he will not be able to hear the truth but...yeah pride is a b@stard. Pray 🙏🏾 for him.
Islamic iconoclasm is contradictory. They have no images of people, sure, but go inside the occupied Hagia Sophia, and you will see what? Elaborate, beautiful Arabic calligraphy. What are letters? They are the images created to symbolize the sounds we make with our mouths in the form of language. Just because a letter or a word or a sentence isn't an image of a person, place, or thing doesn't make it any less of an image. Islam is rabidily iconophilic, they just swapped icons for calligraphy.
Understandable. You cant retain information reliably without illustration, so being iconoclastic makes zero sense. Its just venerating art in letter form instead of beautiful paintings. Im atheist but I like both art forms, especially arab christian calligraphy.
@@saxoncook You're faith in the trinity seems to be based on a lack of believe in islam, but if we take that out of the question you have no foundation for your belief from first principles because the trinity is necessarily impossible just like a squared circle
@@saxoncook Trinitarian Christianity has such a weak philosophical foundation that it's self contradictory and doesn't even need islam to dispute it for it to be an apparent false belief system
They are 2nd rate knockoffs of Christianity so no its not true. Also a muslim has yet to answer my question on how Adam and Moses could talk to each other
They will just reply "because Alla allowed it" the same thing they say when I ask them about Jesus making clay birds come to life, contradicting the sura about not depicting any kind of living being
@@AlonzoHarris235 Joseph's original father is Heli from Luke Heli died childless, so Jacob married his widow and fathered Joseph, who was biologically the son of Jacob but legally the son of Heli where is ur explanation for the claims we made
The Orthodox guy debating with Sneako used to be Muslim not even 6 months ago. He then turned to Catholicism, then Orthodoxy within the past few months. He is very knowledgeable and since he used to be a Muslim he can argue against them very efficiently. His channel name is Anandaapologetics. Ill try to reach out to him to contact you. God bless.
I love that he is embracing Orthodoxy but I am positive he is still a catechumen if he just began his journey 6 months ago. He is knowledgeable this early on though.
Someone like him should be focused on Prayer... Not debates... I don't understand this debate sphere. So obsessed with debates and trying to prove you're right and they're wrong by any means necessary. "Oh I'm an apologist" No.. You're angry and obsessed. Lord have mercy.
@@WolvesBaseballNineand as long as you think like this, you will never help a single person to christ while these perfectly reasonable calm people you are calling "angry and obsessed" will be converting hundreds of thousands.
@@levitatingpotato109 The Christian life isn't about converting everyone thru debates. It's about repentance of our own sins and seeking communion with God and our neighbors. If need be, we have to defend our faith, but that can be done in multiple ways... Not just thru constantly seeking debates. What's the point of me debating when I have to do my morning and evening prayers? What's the point of debating if I have malice for my brother or neighbor? "You'll never convert anyone..." Who are you? God? A pharisee or a publican? Let us all constantly remind ourselves the spirit in which we need to adopt. That of the publican....
@@WolvesBaseballNine your Christian life may not include converting people through debates, but some people have different callings, the church fathers debated all the time. You are not fr. Seraphim rose, your mere presence and peacefulness is not going to convince people that Christ is the Truth. That being said most of what you said is correct, but you have spare time, even monastics do, you don't have to do 3000 prostrations a day from sunrise to sunset, you can be both a good Orthodox Christian and a good apologist (which adds to being a good Orthodox Christian).
@2tally the bible is the word of Allah but not the final words of it The bible has been altered by people and its lost its meaning As the word of God The quran hasn't been Changed or edited for centuries as it is THE words of God, if not then its the final. I'm not good with Islam's history but I know enough and have the common decency to at least read about both Christianity and Islam.
@@Unknown_BagIf you are familiar with Islams history you know that Mohammed was a War Lord with pedophile tendencies? Now for me it’s pretty logical who I would follow. Jesus: Son of God and sinless who performed miracles or Mohammed a known Pedophile who married a 9 year old girl and a war lord. The choice is easy.
@Tkr12381 He didn't fail to protect it? The quran is the 'FINAL' word of God And by that logic you're saying Allah "failed" to protect the bible so: does that mean you believe in a false religion because your God failed to protect his book?
@Tkr12381 the bible was altered by humans The quran isn't I do not know why we went from Christianity to Islam, I'm not that well researched in islam but I know enough.
From Coptic Orthodox Egypt I love you❤❤ Believe me, the reason for Egypt's problems is Islam. I am a Christian and I know, but I love all Muslim brothers
@@fadikhoory5350Doesn’t hurt for us Orthodox to take this day in Lent to contemplate the death of our Christ. On Sunday as well, it doesnt hurt for us to spend a little more time contemplating the resurrection
This video reminds me of two things, 1. Islam is false, 2. I need to practice my Arabic, maa ba3rif 3arabi!!! 😭 also happy Good Friday to those celebrating today!
I just noticed that huge muslim who always bullies uneducated christians was standing next to sneako letting him to absolutely toasted in theology because he was afraid of that well versed christian.
From my personal research, Islam is growing quickly for the following reasons: 1) self-hating trend of the western world feeling bad for it's colonial past when Christianity was strong 2) Christian countries became secular and the influence of religion weakened especially with scandals involving abuse of authority 3) Some Muslim countries (not all) have higher birth rates because of multiple reasons including lower level of women liberalization, lower standard of living 4) Related to the secularism point above, Christian countries have mostly divorced religion and politics and does not shame or punish apostates (maybe excommunication but then again those who left would not care) whereas Muslim countries especially those who have stronger forms of Sharia law have the death penalty on apostates. There is also Jizya tax and even if they can allow a separate court system for other religions, in a case of Muslim vs non-muslim in an Islamic court, Muslims always favored by the way the Sharia law was written. These are strong incentives for people in Muslim countries to revert and strong disincentives to leaving Islam.
In other words, Islam has a better membership growth and retention strategy despite being more akin to bullying, peer pressure, and social shaming. Whereas other religions have become optional and left to personal decisions to adhere or leave.
@@ngoctruongpaulnguyen6503 Another point is that (in the West) Islam is a pet religion of the radical left and are treated as allies; whereas Christianity is attacked. This is tangential and maybe minor, but the fact that a strong cultural/political ideological trend helps Islam where it can, while attacking Christianity, can only be a benefit. It likely peoduces an effect similar to how many people who identify as atheists and don't like Christianity will nonetheless latch onto eastern religious concepts and symbols from Buddhism and Hinduism. Basically more secular minds seeing Islam more favorably than Christianity, increasing the possibility of conversion.
@@plutothetutor1660 this is because of multilateral agreements with the international communities. The last time it was in force was under the Ottoman Empire which was finally defeated in WW1. If an Islamic caliphate still existed today, there is reason to believe that the jizya would still be imposed as it's in the Qur'an 9:29.
Currently still Muslim. Love your content! Honestly, I question Islam and Christianity both but I love Christianity Muslims and everyone! God bless you Kyle.
If you want to learn more a out religion. I advise you to read into religion yourself and speaking or learning from more knowledgeable people. Debate channels are a horrible place to learn from because they can spread alot of misinformation in a form of mockery. I as a Muslim elhamdulillah have watched alot of these videos and see that the christians are doing some very dishonorable stuff. Their titles are mostly 'muslim gets destroyed' while the muslims have passive titles.
@@Pavknightt I suggest watching the muslim lantern, hes a young guy who's well informed on the bible and the Quran. Hes also polite and speaks in a calm and clear voice.
Hey Kyle, the guy in the video is Ananda Apologetics. I’m sure he’d love to talk to you. Another fun fact, he’s only been Christian for a few months. 17:57
As a Protestant and someone who is not very knowledgeable of apologetics, hearing the church history alongside fallacies of Islam very much affirms my faith in Jesus Christ. God bless you brother
Verses from the Old Testament 1. Isaiah 9:6: • “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.” • Explanation: This verse is a prophecy about the coming Messiah, who Christians believe is Jesus. The titles “Mighty God” and “Everlasting Father” point to the divine nature of this child, suggesting that the Messiah would not be a mere human but God incarnate. 2. Micah 5:2: • “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.” • Explanation: This verse is another prophecy about the Messiah, who is described as having origins “from of old, from ancient times,” which many Christians interpret as an indication of the eternal nature of the Messiah, pointing to His divinity. Verses from the New Testament 1. John 1:1-3, 14: • “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. … The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.” • Explanation: These verses clearly identify Jesus (referred to as “the Word”) as God and the Creator. Verse 14 confirms that this Word became flesh, identifying Jesus as God incarnate. 2. John 8:58: • “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” • Explanation: Here, Jesus uses the divine name “I am” (Greek: ego eimi), which directly echoes God’s self-identification in Exodus 3:14 (“I AM WHO I AM”). This statement was understood by His contemporaries as a claim to divinity, which is why they attempted to stone Him for blasphemy immediately after this statement (John 8:59). 3. Colossians 2:9: • “For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,” • Explanation: This verse explicitly states that Jesus possesses the fullness of the divine nature, affirming His identity as God. 4. Titus 2:13: • “while we wait for the blessed hope-the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,” • Explanation: Paul refers to Jesus as “our great God and Savior,” a clear declaration of His divinity. Common Muslim Arguments Against the Divinity of Jesus Muslims generally reject the divinity of Jesus, and they base their arguments on several points: 1. Jesus’ Humanity and Servanthood: • Muslims often point to verses in the Bible where Jesus is depicted as a man who eats, sleeps, and prays, such as Luke 2:52, where Jesus grows in wisdom and stature, and John 14:28, where Jesus says, “The Father is greater than I.” These verses emphasize Jesus’ human nature and His role as a servant of God. 2. The Shema and Monotheism: • Muslims argue that the Shema, a central declaration of Jewish faith found in Deuteronomy 6:4 (“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.”), emphasizes the oneness of God. They believe that the concept of the Trinity contradicts this fundamental monotheism, interpreting it as polytheism. 3. Prophethood of Jesus: • In Islam, Jesus (Isa in Arabic) is regarded as one of the greatest prophets, but not divine. The Qur’an teaches that Jesus was a human prophet who performed miracles by God’s permission but never claimed divinity. Muslims often cite verses like John 17:3, where Jesus refers to the Father as the “only true God,” as evidence that Jesus Himself did not consider Himself God. 4. Jesus’ Knowledge and Power: • Muslims highlight verses where Jesus appears to have limited knowledge (e.g., Mark 13:32, where Jesus says He does not know the hour of the end times) or where He prays to God (e.g., Matthew 26:39). These instances are interpreted as evidence that Jesus was subordinate to God and therefore not divine. Christian Responses to These Arguments 1. Hypostatic Union: • Christians believe in the hypostatic union, which teaches that Jesus is fully God and fully man. This means that while Jesus has a human nature with its limitations, He also possesses a divine nature. Therefore, when Jesus prays or expresses limited knowledge, He is doing so in His humanity, not His divinity. 2. Trinity as Unity: • The Christian doctrine of the Trinity maintains that God is one in essence but exists in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Shema’s declaration of God’s oneness is not seen as contradictory to the Trinity, but rather it underscores the unity of God’s being. 3. Jesus’ Statements of Divinity: • Christians point out that Jesus made several claims to divinity, such as in John 10:30 (“I and the Father are one”) and through His miracles and authority over life and death (e.g., John 11:25-26). These affirmations are seen as consistent with the understanding that Jesus is God.
Prayers for those enslaved in the Islamic cult of their false prophet (if inspired, it was by demons), to one day know the one true living God as fully revealed in Yeshua Christ
Jesus isn’t god buddy. Not a Muslim. Not a Christian. I am still spiritual. You all look at symbolism like it’s a movie, it’s laughable. Jonah and the fish was about astrology, hate to burst your bobble. Your god is evil. 😂
I also just want to add that the fact that Allah has a look isn’t a point. God also describes his looks, creating Adam in his image and Jesus being his personification.
@@walker1686 That's not contradictory to anything in our theology though lol Whereas islam says allah has no similarity to creation and it's shirk to say so.
In Surah 20:85-88, 95 we read: Allah responded, “We have indeed tested your people in your absence, and the Samaritan has led them astray.” Then Moses returned…and we cast them [(gold) ornaments], as the Samaritan also threw them, into the fire.’ (Then he brought out for them a Calf, a mere body that lowed; and they said, ‘This is your god, and the god of Moses, whom he has forgotten.’)…Moses then asked, “What did you think you were doing, O Samaritan?” Now, let us consider this for just a moment. How can a Samaritan have led the Israelites astray at the time of Moses (approx 1400 B.C.) when the city of Samaria was founded by King Omri about 870 B.C.? The Samaritans did not exist until after the exile of the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the resettlement of the area under King Sargon II in 722 B.C. with non-Israelites who then adopted a syncretism (mixture) between the religion of the Jews and their own polytheistic background. The Samaritans did not exist until 530 years after Moses. By this mistake alone, the Qur’an can be rendered unreliable and certainly not an inerrant work of God.
One of my colleagues is Iranian and he is secretly ex-Muslim. He only confided in me when he found out I am a Christian. He keeps it a secret that he left Islam years and years ago, out of fear that he will be killed by his cousins. He said he's an atheist. He would ask me questions about Jesus and I would answer him backed by scripture. Then he told me he attended Easter Sunday service out of curiosity and days after, has accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior! Hallelujah! Never give up on the Muslims that you know! Keep planting seeds in their hearts! They may reject Jesus on the spot but who knows, that seed will grow and eventually will sprout!
*The Bible being full of eye-witness, full of testimonies and proved to be reliable* People: Jesus didn't die on the cross! *The Qur'an that copied everything from the past religious texts (including the Bible), for then changing some things* People: Jesus is a prophet! The idol called "Allah" is real!
@@Batman_193 put the "*" at the end and start of a word. if you put another word behind or in front of the word with the "*", then its not gonna work. for example: *Hello*, this didnt highlight because it had a comma (,) in front of the word *Hello* . this did highlight because i didnt put *anything* immediatly after the word, but i put a space, and then used the punctuation (the dot, which is: ".", in this case) you can do words _like these_ by using "_", in the same way of earlier, with the same rules
Quran is a fully copied book from Bible and torah, the worst part is they don't even get a right Bible to copy!!! Everything mention in the Quran is incorrect, in fact most of the verse from Quran are from gnostic Bible, Christian hymns and poems, Jews songs and poems and some of them are from Ancient non religious book. They collected all these pieces of books circulating in Arabia during 3th or 4th or 5th century AD and claims its a final revelation from Allah, which is hilarious!!! Its funny!!
i feel like mohammed, police be upon him, didnt know his heresey would dominate the way it is today, thats why muslims are laeving in droves to come serve the REAL Live God :D
As an ex-muslim let me tell you, Islam is NOT an Abrahamic religion, It certainly copied a lot from Abrahamic religions but itself is not one. Kaaba was not build by Abraham it was build by pagans. As a matter a fact there were dozens of kaabas belonging to different pagan gods and filled with their statues, but mohammad destroyed them and kept one for himself.
It is by definition an Abrahamic religion as Abraham started it but whatever bro, you go watch ur CP and Sam Shamoun instead of actually learning about the religion
Andrew tate based his argument on american christianity, christianity in america is weak and about lgbtq but where im from in serbia orthodox christianity is never mocked or have lgtbq ever protesting in serbian churches because trust me serbs are like russians we will come out and make it know dont mess with our relgion
I will never understand why Muslims will consider Jesus a prophet yet will not believe the people that actually met him and were all willing to die for what he taught them. Instead they will believe somebody that came 600 years afterwards.
hello kyle, muslim here, this is the first video i've seen on your channel and 15 minutes into the video i had to stop and write a comment because most of what you said about islam is either misrepresented or actually wrong, some parts were true but sadly they were presented in form of mockery and honestly that shows insincerity on your part. some of what you got wrong here is the meaning of muslim, a muslim is someone who submit himself to god, and when we say that jesus and moses and the other prophets where muslims we mean that they submitted themselves to only god, these prophets may have had different laws, laws that we may not have today as muslims, so they may have different forms of prayer or different times of prayer but they're still muslim and this why we say that jesus was muslim, we don't say it because he prostrated like we do. another example is when you said that the quran doesn't say that the bible is corrupted, this basically shows that you don't really understand the quran, because in many verses god says that the people of the book alter the scripture, one example is ﴿وَإِنَّ مِنهُم لَفَريقًا يَلوونَ أَلسِنَتَهُم بِالكِتابِ لِتَحسَبوهُ مِنَ الكِتابِ وَما هُوَ مِنَ الكِتابِ وَيَقولونَ هُوَ مِن عِندِ اللَّهِ وَما هُوَ مِن عِندِ اللَّهِ وَيَقولونَ عَلَى اللَّهِ الكَذِبَ وَهُم يَعلَمونَ﴾ [آل عمران: ٧٨] English (Saheeh): (78) And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, "This is from Allāh," but it is not from Allāh. And they speak untruth about Allāh while they know.
First: Altering with the tongue is not corrupting the written documents.... Do you think this party among them dipped their tongues in ink and licked the page 🤣 Of course that's silly, so you lose a point for that. Altering with the tongue would be misquoting and twisting the scripture in speech. Second: Jesus did not pray like a muslim, because He prayed to The Father, and muslims say by no means can allah be a father. Moses spoke face to face with The Son on the mountain, so again you lose a point. Maybe you can explain this- Muhammad says he is the first muslim in 6:163 Is he the first to submit? Then who before him was muslim and submitted to allah? Not any of those biblical figures you mentioned.
Actually I think that debate between Sneako and the Orthodox guy was not very helpful at all. First of all Sneako's not a philosopher, he even says very clearly in the video - "The reason I left Christianity is because I've never heard an answer that makes sense TO ME". The Ortho guy just spews a bunch of high level, hard to understand, dogmatic definitions with "insider" language. Why go that route? It would be way more useful to make some good analogies, go full Pageau mode and show how the multiplicity/unity can be observed everywhere. I think just dumping a bunch of philosophical definitions on a simple guy and then essentially calling him too dumb to understand it is counterproductive. Make it understandable TO HIM and maybe he'll change his mind.
I can see your point though, Pageau's breakdown/approach would require a 1 on 1 conversation where there is no other Muslim around interrupting and definitely not at speakers corner. At speakers corner, high level debate is a thing. Truth is, to your point, Sneako shouldn't be at speakers corner at all. This is evident by him walking away when conversations go over his head..his pride can't take it if I had to guess.
The Christian guy doesn’t even understand what he is saying. He is just waffling. People of falsehood need to waffle. The Christian believes in three gods.
I’ve been apart of an extremely liberal Greek Orthodox Church so I wouldn’t say it’s honest to declare orthodoxy doesn’t have that issue, and I’ve heard many other complain about Greek churches
My family is atheist. I think I'm completely convinced of Orthodoxy and Orthodox teaching. I want to see an Orthodox church with my own eyes. There's one problem though: I live in Cancún, Mexico. Are there any Orthodox churches near me?
Sneako's arguments can be boiled down to: "I don't know & I don't understand, therefore it's false."
The trinity is three gods.
@AlonzoHarris235 Trinity is one God in three different persons.
@@AlonzoHarris235 Wrong.
@@AlonzoHarris235The Trinity Is One essence, three persons that aré distinct not seprate sharing the same nature. Whats so hard to understand.
@@mirellaurueta3541 bro, I'm christian but I don't think this argument makes sense, 'cause the definition of essence is "what's most basic, most central, the most characteristic of a being or of a something", and I and my father have the same essence of being a human, we share the same nature, but we aren't the same being. If you can identify some wrong statement in my argumentation, I'd like a lot, because I'm confused a lot about this matter of trinity.
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Without Lies Islam Dies.
And without lies, Al-Lah cries.
Lesser lies Christianity multiplies!
Christ flies, islam just a buncha guys
The teachings of Christianity are wise.
Lies and violence.
Don't ask women about their age
Don't ask men about their salary
Don't ask muslim about History of Islam
@@shahilshadadislam4627 historically proven Jesus existed 100% and it is proven HE WAS CRUCIFIED. That alone destroys everything about your book. Jesus is the only way to the FATHER.
@@shahilshadadislam4627 I did not say you didnt believed he existed. I said historically proven its a facts he was crucified. And also who was crucified then?
@@shahilshadadislam4627 where does it says he was the one who wanted to betray him? All respect And love always
@@shahilshadadislam4627 It doesnt say, and also the gospel of barnabas is rejected by MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS SCHOLARS. You can search. Hope Jesus appears to you man, He is the only way. Hope you are good and your family too!
Gospel of Barnabas is not canonical, so your argument is invalid.
Music, alcohol and dogs are forbidden...how is there even a single American Muslim??
They're privileged enough to not live in a country where Muslim rules are enforced
Andrew Tatte and those alike arent real muslims. They have created a new form of it, western liberal mixed with islamic values.
That’s why the west needs to stop this freedom of religion BS, if people come to our country they should assimilate to the culture and religion. And muslims in strict Islamic states are disgusting, they have their way with women and if they get caught they stone the woman to death..
Dogs are banned because a puppy scared "Gabriel" (a demon)
Fr i actually saw some video about Latino Muslims and I’m like brother our whole culture is haram in Islam 🤣
Imagine “converting” to something you really know nothing about
They rely on that. You become a muslim, sunshine and rainbows, and then the story of what muhammed and his criminal fraternity did to kids and captured slaves comes out in a trickle
But you can’t leave without a death sentence
Lol
Yep, a smart Muslim is an ex Muslim
How could you expect sneako know all the complexities of a religion that scholars have been examining for centuries. The simple fact is that sneako identified that the central foundational doctrine of Christianity is a logical impossibility and the Islamic one makes far more sense. Everything else follows from that core principle
@@IAkaksjdjtjeidi A humble enough Christian is one that at least acknowledges that his religion is purely faith based
A logically impossibility to someone who isn’t truly practicing their faith but further more, Islam makes more sense how? What metric did he use to come to that conclusion? Your own response shows no logic. Let’s be honest, the only response he converted is because someone he looks up to converted. Not by his own convictions or knowledge of the truth.
Hi Kyle it’s ananda here I’m getting people asking me to reach out and I’m the one who debated Sneako much love to you God bless you 🙏🏻♥️ (the Greek Orthodox)
You 2 should definitely collab!
You’re doing Gods work brother. God bless you.
Just got a new subscriber! God bless
God bless you!🙏
@@avsbqwould love to collab with Kyle been watching him for awhile since my conversion
"Christ is king" -sneako
He did say that, surprisingly he says a lot of positive stuff about Christianity but also says a lot of negative stuff, bit odd.
@@TheCommentor-he didn’t say it because he’s converting to christianity. he’s saying it to co-sign Nick Fuentes
@@TheCommentor- Sadly, He doesn't mean it positively tho, it's taqiyya, deceptive to anger/provoke Jews while "befriending" Christians. Be careful💟
We as a Muslim can say Christ is king because we believe that he is a prophet and one of the greatest man in history but we don't believe that he is God
@@SJ2024-pl8ub So you give him a title that belongs to allah?
"al-Malik (Arabic: الملك), literally "the King", is a name that may refer to: The title King of Kings. One of the 99 names of God in Islam."
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "The most awful name in Allah's sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings).
-Sahih al-Bukhari 6205
Stop with the taqiyya we can see through your bullshit. Times of Islam are over due to the internet and will go back to its starting place, the religion of the serpent.
Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.
-Sahih Muslim 146
Jesus: Dies on a cross in 33 ad with hundreds of witnesses
Muhammed: Born 570 ad - never having seen Jesus - "Jesus is not the Son of God"
Clearly something isn't right.
Mohamed is not the author it's Allah's words.
Jesus didnt die
How can god get into the shape of his creation to sacrifice himself to save his creation from him (he will punish them for their sins)
The bible says "the father is greater than i" How there be levels of gods
Rethink your religion before talking
Additionally, the Quran says that they killed a man that looked the same as him. This is by Allah's will.
@@dark_sun1297 In the Old Testament, the wages of sin are death, so Jesus came down from Heaven to take the sins of the world as our punishment. All of us have sinned and all of us should have died, but Jesus came and conquered death, overtaking the wages of death.
Also I understand that Muslims believe the Quran is the word of Allah, but Muhammed preached the Quran that says Jesus wasn't the son of God, so he had made the claim that Jesus was not the son of God.
Also the term "greater" in the statement that Jesus makes doesn't refer to levels of God, I don't know where you got that from. Jesus is simply saying the Father is able cause Him (as well as the Spirit) as we believe the Father is the monarch of the Trinity. Only He is able to cause other persons. I have rethought my religion, and I have been studying it for the past year and a half and understand it quite well.
I would rethink your religion as well, and all the violent, sexual and disgusting things you will find in it. I've spoken to ex-muslims who are now Christian, and they say that they were brainwashed into believing such things. If you want evidence of Christianity, look it up. There are plenty of good resources of evidence of the tomb, resurrection, miracles and more.
@@tbnrcreator.official this is not logical brother and u know this
Because how could someone take your sin, it makes life useless
Everybody's sins is forgiven?
@@tbnrcreator.official If you read the Quran you will surely understand what is the definition of the only true God, not a human form that got crossed
Here before the Muslims start debating and spamming the comments.
Im atheist and it annoys me to an incredible degree.
@@DM5550Z
Christians are also atheists. They are just closet atheists.
The trinity is three gods.
@@AlonzoHarris235you did not cook with that comment, you burned the food
@@DM5550Z It’s called a debate, you expect people not to question and discuss your religions? 🤦♂️
@@DM5550Z dont watch These videos if you come to hate.
Kyle is beardmaxxing
You mean Orthomaxxing
He's inspired me to beard max. Unfortunately, mine is scraggly and nowhere as cool as his.
The power of beard hasn’t been expounded on upon nearly enough lately
I can’t wait till he’s an old man and has the legendary orthodox beard
I didn't realize it was him because of that beard.
I have been recently been doubting Christianity since i've converted in January but your video help me see the problem with other major religions and you help me see why Christ is king. Thank you very much for your work.
Halleluja!
The trinity is three gods.
This guy can’t answer my simple basic questions about the trinity.
Is the trinity one self or three selves?
@@AlonzoHarris235 Trinity is one God in three different persons.
@@roland2982 Yes christians say that but it doesnt really mean anything
@@kmandromeda1156 Trinity makes more sense than Islam's Jesus where they call him a prophet but also say he was sinless and is the messiah and will judge mankind.
@@roland2982 Are you trying to say that the criteria for being god is that you're sinless and the messiah? Also (even if I grant your ridiculous criteria) that still doesn't make Christianity true, it would just make it make more sense than islam according to you
Kyle and Jay Dyer made me so firm in my faith I’m now a catechumen in the church! Christ is King 👑
Welcome brother❤ hope you find beautiful fathers and brothers in the church. Hope the best for you as a brother, we'll see eachother one day❤
@gerald.bostian Glad to hear a new brother has born❤
That body guard is so desperate to poison the well so that Sneako doesn’t think for himself
He's overworking himself. Sneako does that just fine without his help
Unrelated to your comment, but I love your pfp
He's another of the Dawa guys, goes by the name of "I am the warner"
Ex muslim ❤☦️
What is your story
@@DM5550ZThere is no story.😂
@@md.shihanurrahman3599 He implied he was exmuslim
@@DM5550Z The Quran was just too contradictory, if Allah was so supreme and so mighty, why did he send Jesus just to fail?
Why would Allah send to hell 2 billion people?
Why does Allah forgive men for the most hated crimes, but hates women for even thinking wrong?
That's when i read the bible, and i saw not "Allah" but the true Allah, God, who loves His children, who treated everyone equally, who made both man and woman to love eachother because they were of the same flesh.
Allah in the Qu'ran is cruel, manipulative and evil
While Allah in the Bible is loving, forgiving, and all knowing. I didn't donvert in a day, but slowly, i started to understand Jesus more than Mohammed.
Quran (3:54, Allah is the best of decievers)
Mark (13:22, Warned against a great deciever who would arrive)
2 Timothy (3:13, same as Mark)
^These are the main reasons why^
@@DM5550Z Me fal, TH-cam mi fshin pergjigjet sa here e shkruaj ne anglisht.
Kurani thjesht kundershton veten e saj, Bibla kishte me shume kuptim.
Sneako's downfall started with a gun anatomy lesson by Penguinz0...
Still one of the funniest things to happen lmao
"SCREAM ME AS YOU LIKE, THAT WON'T UNFUCKED YOUR GIRLFRIEND"
And next is him depending pedo#
Orthocore ☦️
Orthocum
Islam is a worse version of the Arian heresy.
I'd like to ask you why?
@@Unknown_Bag Islam is a combination of several heresies. Meanwhile Arianism is a one heresy.
read what arian heresy is then u would know it's similar t the muhammad's doctrine@@Unknown_Bag
@@feliciaf8 I ask you
What came first
The first signs of the Quran
Of the Arian heresy
@2tally*300
Okay but the first meme is 👌🏻💀
that was lit.
Allah waiting 600 years to just say “bro it was a prank”, he let Christianity develop and spread for no apparent reason.
@@TheCommentor-because “Christianity” at the time of Jesus was the truth and Jesus spread the message that there is only one God and he prayed to that God, which is the same message as Islam. Over time it got corrupted due to mankind and so Allah gave Muhammad the true message which is there being only one God and he should be prayed to alone without having any partners. It’s simple really. Your kind is just too stupid to understand.
And also apparently the "Sheitan made some evildoing Christian Saints"
-possibly according to Muslims@@TheCommentor-
@@TheCommentor-i guess the whole “allah is the greatest deceiver” verse makes more sense now 😭 he made his people wait thousands of years for a messiah, then let them worship him for 600 more years and then just says “sike nah”
Ex Muslim here looking to become orthodox soon
Welcome home brother!
Welcome and God bless.
God bless you brother.
Same
What made you leave
Muslims: “Islam is the final Religion!”
Orthodox Christians: “Hold my beer.”
Alright
I'm happy to converse with you about why islam is wrong
He is not a muslim, he made a joke about how muslims think islam is the best religion, and orthodox "hold my beer" means that wait, let me destroy them, so he doesnt think islam is right@@Unknown_Bag
Stalin would rise from his grave
@erickoavenada969 And sit back down.
@@Ibmmmmm-l8l I'd rather converse with Jordan.
Not you
There's a video called "Where Is Allah? Muslim Scholars Answer (Each Other)!" as a compilation of statements, which reflects exactly the disunity in Islam.
So one debated topic among Muslim scholars (that is centuries old) bothers you?
It doesn't affect Islam or our faith, it only affects you
@@Omer1996E.C it affects quite a lot of people when you use these differences to unalive each other for centuries.
@@Omer1996E.C I don't see disunity is a negative affection of anything. I assume orthodoxpilgrimoffical, is a Christian. It's no problem with our religion to know that people have different ideas about God, or about tenets of our faith, and what it means to be a person striving to be like God, who we believe is Jesus Christ.
I look at this comment, and I just interpret it, that yes Islam as well has different scholars, with different interpretations to express what they believe is true. God didn't give us all the answers, he never layed everything on the table and went
>This is exactly what I am, this is exactly how I work, this is exactly what is me, what is my works, how I interact, how I mold
God never did that, what we both agree on, God and existence is so confusing he has sent down more then the people needed to play football of prophets down to help guide people into the truth.
Life, and how we relete to God, and God it's all confusing. I think a bigger thing, just me personally. When I encounter people who's faith is very "canned" think especially like mormons. A super cookie cutter response to experiences. Almost like they are not people. No exhibiting any signs of personal understanding or relationship with God. To me a sign of pure 100% unity is actually a disservice. We need agreement, but we are not God, so human error always exists, and when you have people whos faith is curated so hard to appear to have no human error. I intake that as fake
disunity? or you mean individual intrepretation of religious text that was the basic funding ground for the protestant church?
As a Roman Catholic, I am gaining more knowledge about our faith. I pray for the reunification of our churches. Thank you Kyle ur the best. 🙏✝☦
If you actually read the Bible you’d know how corrupt and fake the Catholic Church is
@@patriciareid1159What?
@@EasternRomanAficionado Jews is not only as a religion but also cultures, way of life and race. Sory what I mean is other religions..
A muslim asked if jesus is god who created adam because he was on earth before jesus💀
You can say the same thing for their quran that supposedly was here before time
Jesus existed before he became a human being in the flesh. The son of God didn't come into existence through the birth of Jesus. The birth of Jesus is when the son of God manifested himself as Jesus, the man. And because he was born sinless, he became the new Adam.
Islam was revealed to Muhammad by a demon in a cave
Jesus is the Angel of the Lord prior to his incarnation. The Angel of the Lord is mentioned many times in the Old Testament.
@@TheCommentor-That is a false equivalence , because God existed before everting and the Quran definitely didn’t exist before his creator. You are the one who believe that the father generated the son.
17:15 His channel is called Ananda Apologetics, would be awesome to see you two collab
Yo sweet thanks
The Christian you showed at speakers corner talking to sneako, his TH-cam channel is ananda apologetics, he’s only been Christian for less than a year I think and he’s this knowledgable it’s insane, he was a former Shia Muslim
He is not knowledgeable. He couldn’t even answer a single basic question I asked him.
@@AlonzoHarris235You spend to much time being a troll
@@Gb93017
I have asked him questions.
I asked him if the trinity is one self or three selves. He refused to answer. This proves he believes in three gods.
Any Muslim will answer that God is one self. Monotheism is one self.
He refused to answer. It’s a sign that he can’t answer. Any answer will have huge implications for your trinity.🫠
@@AlonzoHarris235That’s fantastic mate why don’t you hop off TH-cam for a bit and go do something outside
@@AlonzoHarris235Does it get boring spending all day spamming the same 3 comments?
May Catholics and Orthodox merge into the one unified church again.
✝️🤝☦️
Your looksmaxxing goes hard kyle
They are made from Gnostic, Tritheistic, Unitarian, Partialist, and Arian principles that Muhammad thought to be what Christianity teaches.
Christianity is gnostic.
@@AlonzoHarris235 Gnosticism is Gnosticism. It is a heresy that was expelled from the Catholic Church.
@@AlonzoHarris235😂 Dude betrays his complete lack of understanding of actual Gnosticism ...
L+Ratio @@AlonzoHarris235
bruh u dont know what gnostic then, read first@@AlonzoHarris235
What blows my mind is how Islam exist 600 years AFTER Jesus and they say Muhammad was the FIRST Muslim well how can Jesus be a Muslim when Muhammad BORN 600 years after Jesus be the first Muslim???? 😂
Nah they say Jesus was a Muslim alongside every prophet. They just forgot to say for thousands of years.
@@maxabdulhadi when why was Judaism first should’ve Islam been first this crap makes no sense which is why I can’t convert to Islam, they lie all the time
@@maxabdulhadi don't you know christians erased the word muslim from both their own scriptures AND the scrolls of the jews 😏
@@bigol9223 that statement is just plain stupid
@@Anna-_-3032 i agree
Nobody is converting to Islam, everyone in Gen Z is coming to Jesus Christ ❤. Our true Lord and Savior ❤
Amen 🙏🏻
What a silly comment 😂Search 'fastest growing religion,' and search 'why did Jesus say only God is good?'
@@Sulaiman-ss6ll There was a clear reason as to why Islam's numbers are growing the fastest; birth rates. People are being born into islamic families, it doesn't represent conversions.
@squidstuff308 because of births, not converts
@@Sulaiman-ss6lldid Jesus say “only God is good, so don’t call me good”? No, he said “only God is good” try again lil bro, God bless and leave that cult started by an EDP wannabe
The fact I’ve been Christian for 7 months and can debunk these arguments says something
Muhammad syncretised arab paganism which is babylonic in it's origin and he merely coated it with abrahamic phraseology for political purposes. That way the new religion would be more easily accepted by arabs.
First of all, most Muslims are non-Arab. Secondly, Arab paganism was the main source of income for big Arab tribes, therefore would crush them financially. Islam isn't new. All prophets peace be upon them preached Islam. Muhammed peace be upon him reaffirms what was revealed to the prophets before him.
im not some sort of islamic preacher and i barely know anything about christianity, but give me an example of paganism in quran
Viva Cristo rey
Leaving Islam was like taking a blind fold off…
Same
Congratulation!Amen,brother…stay safe.
"What's your definition of the word?"
* gives definition *
"That's semantics!"
That’s so big cringe. I m glad I m Orthodox
What's that
@@Chief_Operation mohammedanism
I just find Sneako's feigned confusion to be humorous. Clearly the concept of the triune God has been articulated. He's not trying to understand it, he seems compelled to reject it. It comes across to me that he knows the moral prescriptions implicates if Christianity is correct and doesn't want to live that way. Its why he embraced islam so quickly before understanding what the fullness of obedience to that religion would imply, and why he's growing away from that religion as well. Sneako is a prodigal running from any kind of duty and responsibility to God to be obedient. We pray that he tires of fleeing when nobody pursues and submits himself to God. The yoke is easy, the burden is light.
"Feigned confusion"? How can he possibly understand something that doesn't make logical sense. All trinitarians feign understanding or are at least humble enough to put it to a matter of faith.
As exhibited perfectly by the commenter above, all muslims do this.
They begin with the insistence that it is impossible to understand, and put on a big show about how they can't understand it, proving that ignorance and low cognitive ability is highly valued in their religion.
Nice video Kyle! I am considering to convert to orthodoxy in the future. Your previous content was sometimes a bit too "online trol orthobro calling everyone a heretic-like", but this is way calmer and better.
Bro, I've been reading saint ironeus against the heresies.
He demolished the gnostics.
Iranaeus didn’t believe in the trinity. He was an Arian type of Christian.
@AlonzoHarris235 he was a monarchial trinitarian emphasizing the Father as sole cause. This is trinitarian. Watch Dr. Beau Branson on orthodox shahada talking about trinitarianism in context. If you understand was St. Iraneus meant, there's no way to interpret him as a non trinitarian. He refers to Jesus as our Lord, savior, and God numerous times through his writings, but he referred to the Father as the one true God because the Father is the sole cause of hypostasis in the trinity, not because the Father is metaphysical separate.
@@therealkingbaldwin
This is nonsense. This is just a trinitarian spin of a historical text. Trying to use the trinity as a criteria to interpret a text to ‘prove’ a trinity. It’s completely circular.
@@AlonzoHarris235Yeah and im Batman 🤣🤣😭
@@AlonzoHarris235
You're actually describing the muslim approach to "prove" islam using the quran as sole criteria, stretching historical texts further than Mrs. Incredible looking for allah or muhammad
I’m gen z and I’m never converting to Islam
good, im a millennial and considered it but instead came to Christ, the One TRUE King
W for getting Ananda on the vid
May the Lord Jesus Christ bless you for your works Kyle. Happy Good Friday everyone ☦️❤
Romanian Eastern Orthodox here.
Our Good Friday is on 3rd of May.
God bless and much love! 🤍☦️
It's not Good Friday for orthodox Christians
Careful guys, watching Sneako trying to understand the Trinity for more than 5 minutes straight will cause you to die from cringe
My concern isn’t that Sneako will never look into the matter and figure out Christianity is true, but that his pride will not allow him to admit he was wrong.
Yeah, as a person who struggles with pride..lol I can see it glowing from Sneako.
I won't say he will not be able to hear the truth but...yeah pride is a b@stard.
Pray 🙏🏾 for him.
Unfortunately he's in too deep but we need to pray for him. If God wills it, he'll know Christ.
Islamic iconoclasm is contradictory. They have no images of people, sure, but go inside the occupied Hagia Sophia, and you will see what? Elaborate, beautiful Arabic calligraphy.
What are letters? They are the images created to symbolize the sounds we make with our mouths in the form of language. Just because a letter or a word or a sentence isn't an image of a person, place, or thing doesn't make it any less of an image. Islam is rabidily iconophilic, they just swapped icons for calligraphy.
Understandable. You cant retain information reliably without illustration, so being iconoclastic makes zero sense. Its just venerating art in letter form instead of beautiful paintings. Im atheist but I like both art forms, especially arab christian calligraphy.
Precisely.
Also they have had many images of people throughout the centuries.
Sneako became Muslim to Marry children
yoo whats up my assyrian friend
@@chershire2 ❤
Converting to Islam off of tik tok videos is crazy
There are simply not enough videos that points out islam's flaws 🥸
You can’t convince a Muslim unless you get past the cognitive dissonance first
Explain the trinity
@@kmandromeda1156 The explanation is in the video. Did you even watch it? Get past your cognitive dissonance.
@@saxoncook No the explanation isn't in the video. Saying god is three persons and not three beings doesn't mean anything
@@saxoncook You're faith in the trinity seems to be based on a lack of believe in islam, but if we take that out of the question you have no foundation for your belief from first principles because the trinity is necessarily impossible just like a squared circle
@@saxoncook Trinitarian Christianity has such a weak philosophical foundation that it's self contradictory and doesn't even need islam to dispute it for it to be an apparent false belief system
We should not be bashing our Muslim brothers as we are fighting the same battle, love thy neighbor.
They are 2nd rate knockoffs of Christianity so no its not true. Also a muslim has yet to answer my question on how Adam and Moses could talk to each other
And they have to also answer how can Mary be the sister of Aaron the brother of Moses
And how Mary is both Jesus' mother and Moses' sister, lol.
They will just reply "because Alla allowed it" the same thing they say when I ask them about Jesus making clay birds come to life, contradicting the sura about not depicting any kind of living being
Is that a logical impossibility?🥴🤣
Joseph has two biological fathers in your gospels.
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@@AlonzoHarris235 Joseph's original father is Heli from Luke Heli died childless, so Jacob married his widow and fathered Joseph, who was biologically the son of Jacob but legally the son of Heli where is ur explanation for the claims we made
I think Islam is decreasing faster
no its increasing
quite the opposite
Yes and no. Islam has the highest apostasy rate due to people leaving, but at the same time the birth rate balances it out
@@takeid123 leaving islam will outpace the birthrate as those babies will grow up to realize the errors of islam and the Truth of Christ 🙏 ☦️
Glory to our Father in Heaven ✝️
The Orthodox guy debating with Sneako used to be Muslim not even 6 months ago. He then turned to Catholicism, then Orthodoxy within the past few months. He is very knowledgeable and since he used to be a Muslim he can argue against them very efficiently. His channel name is Anandaapologetics. Ill try to reach out to him to contact you. God bless.
I love that he is embracing Orthodoxy but I am positive he is still a catechumen if he just began his journey 6 months ago. He is knowledgeable this early on though.
Someone like him should be focused on Prayer... Not debates... I don't understand this debate sphere. So obsessed with debates and trying to prove you're right and they're wrong by any means necessary.
"Oh I'm an apologist"
No.. You're angry and obsessed. Lord have mercy.
@@WolvesBaseballNineand as long as you think like this, you will never help a single person to christ while these perfectly reasonable calm people you are calling "angry and obsessed" will be converting hundreds of thousands.
@@levitatingpotato109 The Christian life isn't about converting everyone thru debates. It's about repentance of our own sins and seeking communion with God and our neighbors. If need be, we have to defend our faith, but that can be done in multiple ways... Not just thru constantly seeking debates.
What's the point of me debating when I have to do my morning and evening prayers? What's the point of debating if I have malice for my brother or neighbor? "You'll never convert anyone..." Who are you? God? A pharisee or a publican? Let us all constantly remind ourselves the spirit in which we need to adopt. That of the publican....
@@WolvesBaseballNine your Christian life may not include converting people through debates, but some people have different callings, the church fathers debated all the time. You are not fr. Seraphim rose, your mere presence and peacefulness is not going to convince people that Christ is the Truth. That being said most of what you said is correct, but you have spare time, even monastics do, you don't have to do 3000 prostrations a day from sunrise to sunset, you can be both a good Orthodox Christian and a good apologist (which adds to being a good Orthodox Christian).
I wandered in the sinful teachings of the heretic Muhammad, but now my path to Orthodoxy is going better and better
And let me ask you
Why do you think Islam is wrong?
@2tally the bible is the word of Allah but not the final words of it
The bible has been altered by people and its lost its meaning As the word of God
The quran hasn't been Changed or edited for centuries as it is THE words of God, if not then its the final.
I'm not good with Islam's history but I know enough and have the common decency to at least read about both Christianity and Islam.
@@Unknown_BagIf you are familiar with Islams history you know that Mohammed was a War Lord with pedophile tendencies? Now for me it’s pretty logical who I would follow. Jesus: Son of God and sinless who performed miracles or Mohammed a known Pedophile who married a 9 year old girl and a war lord. The choice is easy.
@Tkr12381 He didn't fail to protect it?
The quran is the 'FINAL' word of God
And by that logic you're saying Allah "failed" to protect the bible so: does that mean you believe in a false religion because your God failed to protect his book?
@Tkr12381 the bible was altered by humans
The quran isn't
I do not know why we went from Christianity to Islam, I'm not that well researched in islam but I know enough.
Without lust Islam is dust God bless everyone in Jesus name 🙏🏾
With out lies Christianity dies,
without pride islam is fried.
without greed islam cant feed.
Amazing video Kyle 🎉
From Coptic Orthodox Egypt
I love you❤❤
Believe me, the reason for Egypt's problems is Islam. I am a Christian and I know, but I love all Muslim brothers
Sneako is a follower of Andrew Tate, not Islam.
Happy Good Friday to everyone. ☦️
No, today it is for Catholics and Protestants.
@@fadikhoory5350it be a Good Friday anyway 😎
Today is not Good Friday for orthodox Christians
@@fadikhoory5350Doesn’t hurt for us Orthodox to take this day in Lent to contemplate the death of our Christ. On Sunday as well, it doesnt hurt for us to spend a little more time contemplating the resurrection
Happy Easter.
It’s debated whether music is haram or not. It depends on who you ask.
That intro meme 😂😂
This video reminds me of two things, 1. Islam is false, 2. I need to practice my Arabic, maa ba3rif 3arabi!!! 😭 also happy Good Friday to those celebrating today!
Where are you from
Where are you from
@@Christ_is_king_of_kings USA 🇺🇸
As a Roman Catholic and one who is getting into Roman Catholic Apologetics I enjoy this mans videos very much
I just noticed that huge muslim who always bullies uneducated christians was standing next to sneako letting him to absolutely toasted in theology because he was afraid of that well versed christian.
kept watching saw him try and step up to, BIG SHOCK, bullie another christian but this time the christian shut him down completely
From my personal research, Islam is growing quickly for the following reasons:
1) self-hating trend of the western world feeling bad for it's colonial past when Christianity was strong
2) Christian countries became secular and the influence of religion weakened especially with scandals involving abuse of authority
3) Some Muslim countries (not all) have higher birth rates because of multiple reasons including lower level of women liberalization, lower standard of living
4) Related to the secularism point above, Christian countries have mostly divorced religion and politics and does not shame or punish apostates (maybe excommunication but then again those who left would not care) whereas Muslim countries especially those who have stronger forms of Sharia law have the death penalty on apostates. There is also Jizya tax and even if they can allow a separate court system for other religions, in a case of Muslim vs non-muslim in an Islamic court, Muslims always favored by the way the Sharia law was written. These are strong incentives for people in Muslim countries to revert and strong disincentives to leaving Islam.
In other words, Islam has a better membership growth and retention strategy despite being more akin to bullying, peer pressure, and social shaming. Whereas other religions have become optional and left to personal decisions to adhere or leave.
@@ngoctruongpaulnguyen6503
Another point is that (in the West) Islam is a pet religion of the radical left and are treated as allies; whereas Christianity is attacked. This is tangential and maybe minor, but the fact that a strong cultural/political ideological trend helps Islam where it can, while attacking Christianity, can only be a benefit.
It likely peoduces an effect similar to how many people who identify as atheists and don't like Christianity will nonetheless latch onto eastern religious concepts and symbols from Buddhism and Hinduism. Basically more secular minds seeing Islam more favorably than Christianity, increasing the possibility of conversion.
To my knowledge, only Isis and the Taliban institute any sort of Jizya system
@@plutothetutor1660 this is because of multilateral agreements with the international communities. The last time it was in force was under the Ottoman Empire which was finally defeated in WW1. If an Islamic caliphate still existed today, there is reason to believe that the jizya would still be imposed as it's in the Qur'an 9:29.
Lord Jesus Christ Son of God have Mercy Upon me a sinner
Short answer: no, islam is not true.
this comment is true↑
Currently still Muslim. Love your content! Honestly, I question Islam and Christianity both but I love Christianity Muslims and everyone! God bless you Kyle.
If you want to learn more a out religion. I advise you to read into religion yourself and speaking or learning from more knowledgeable people. Debate channels are a horrible place to learn from because they can spread alot of misinformation in a form of mockery. I as a Muslim elhamdulillah have watched alot of these videos and see that the christians are doing some very dishonorable stuff. Their titles are mostly 'muslim gets destroyed' while the muslims have passive titles.
@@BaBa-tr7sr I see plenty of Christian gets destroyed titles. But I see your point
@@Pavknightt I suggest watching the muslim lantern, hes a young guy who's well informed on the bible and the Quran. Hes also polite and speaks in a calm and clear voice.
@@BaBa-tr7sr yeah we need more guys like him, I hate those debaters who are always screaming and not providing arguments, or are harrasing people
@@rashedaldahmani2354 Muslim LLLLLLLLantern can't formulate an argument to save his life
"Christ is king"
-Sneako
Amen
"Christ is God"- the whole Bible.
Hey Kyle, the guy in the video is Ananda Apologetics. I’m sure he’d love to talk to you. Another fun fact, he’s only been Christian for a few months. 17:57
As a Protestant and someone who is not very knowledgeable of apologetics, hearing the church history alongside fallacies of Islam very much affirms my faith in Jesus Christ. God bless you brother
Verses from the Old Testament
1. Isaiah 9:6:
• “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
• Explanation: This verse is a prophecy about the coming Messiah, who Christians believe is Jesus. The titles “Mighty God” and “Everlasting Father” point to the divine nature of this child, suggesting that the Messiah would not be a mere human but God incarnate.
2. Micah 5:2:
• “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”
• Explanation: This verse is another prophecy about the Messiah, who is described as having origins “from of old, from ancient times,” which many Christians interpret as an indication of the eternal nature of the Messiah, pointing to His divinity.
Verses from the New Testament
1. John 1:1-3, 14:
• “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. … The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”
• Explanation: These verses clearly identify Jesus (referred to as “the Word”) as God and the Creator. Verse 14 confirms that this Word became flesh, identifying Jesus as God incarnate.
2. John 8:58:
• “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
• Explanation: Here, Jesus uses the divine name “I am” (Greek: ego eimi), which directly echoes God’s self-identification in Exodus 3:14 (“I AM WHO I AM”). This statement was understood by His contemporaries as a claim to divinity, which is why they attempted to stone Him for blasphemy immediately after this statement (John 8:59).
3. Colossians 2:9:
• “For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,”
• Explanation: This verse explicitly states that Jesus possesses the fullness of the divine nature, affirming His identity as God.
4. Titus 2:13:
• “while we wait for the blessed hope-the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,”
• Explanation: Paul refers to Jesus as “our great God and Savior,” a clear declaration of His divinity.
Common Muslim Arguments Against the Divinity of Jesus
Muslims generally reject the divinity of Jesus, and they base their arguments on several points:
1. Jesus’ Humanity and Servanthood:
• Muslims often point to verses in the Bible where Jesus is depicted as a man who eats, sleeps, and prays, such as Luke 2:52, where Jesus grows in wisdom and stature, and John 14:28, where Jesus says, “The Father is greater than I.” These verses emphasize Jesus’ human nature and His role as a servant of God.
2. The Shema and Monotheism:
• Muslims argue that the Shema, a central declaration of Jewish faith found in Deuteronomy 6:4 (“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.”), emphasizes the oneness of God. They believe that the concept of the Trinity contradicts this fundamental monotheism, interpreting it as polytheism.
3. Prophethood of Jesus:
• In Islam, Jesus (Isa in Arabic) is regarded as one of the greatest prophets, but not divine. The Qur’an teaches that Jesus was a human prophet who performed miracles by God’s permission but never claimed divinity. Muslims often cite verses like John 17:3, where Jesus refers to the Father as the “only true God,” as evidence that Jesus Himself did not consider Himself God.
4. Jesus’ Knowledge and Power:
• Muslims highlight verses where Jesus appears to have limited knowledge (e.g., Mark 13:32, where Jesus says He does not know the hour of the end times) or where He prays to God (e.g., Matthew 26:39). These instances are interpreted as evidence that Jesus was subordinate to God and therefore not divine.
Christian Responses to These Arguments
1. Hypostatic Union:
• Christians believe in the hypostatic union, which teaches that Jesus is fully God and fully man. This means that while Jesus has a human nature with its limitations, He also possesses a divine nature. Therefore, when Jesus prays or expresses limited knowledge, He is doing so in His humanity, not His divinity.
2. Trinity as Unity:
• The Christian doctrine of the Trinity maintains that God is one in essence but exists in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Shema’s declaration of God’s oneness is not seen as contradictory to the Trinity, but rather it underscores the unity of God’s being.
3. Jesus’ Statements of Divinity:
• Christians point out that Jesus made several claims to divinity, such as in John 10:30 (“I and the Father are one”) and through His miracles and authority over life and death (e.g., John 11:25-26). These affirmations are seen as consistent with the understanding that Jesus is God.
Trinity is the real tawhid.
religious people arguing is always a funny thing to watch
Orthodoxy is the one and true church. Truth will always shine! Glory be to God ❤
Heck no it isn’t. It’s an institution of satan. It doesn’t get anyone saved
Prayers for those enslaved in the Islamic cult of their false prophet (if inspired, it was by demons), to one day know the one true living God as fully revealed in Yeshua Christ
Jesus isn’t god buddy. Not a Muslim. Not a Christian. I am still spiritual. You all look at symbolism like it’s a movie, it’s laughable. Jonah and the fish was about astrology, hate to burst your bobble.
Your god is evil. 😂
They need education more than prayers.
How do you know he's a false prophet? That's all you can say? Atleast backup your claims by explaining. Typical Christians 🤦♂️
@@carl-q3t because Muhammad contradicts a reliable source: the Bible. also, Muhammad is in the Bible. check it out
Actually no not many gen zs are converting it’s just that many are recording it bc it gets views. It’s a trend, it’ll die out
And no it’s not about moderation only. He also taught to distance urself from evil.
I also just want to add that the fact that Allah has a look isn’t a point. God also describes his looks, creating Adam in his image and Jesus being his personification.
@@walker1686
That's not contradictory to anything in our theology though lol
Whereas islam says allah has no similarity to creation and it's shirk to say so.
Damn, Sneako used to be such a cool video creator...
In Surah 20:85-88, 95 we read:
Allah responded, “We have indeed tested your people in your absence, and the Samaritan has led them astray.” Then Moses returned…and we cast them [(gold) ornaments], as the Samaritan also threw them, into the fire.’ (Then he brought out for them a Calf, a mere body that lowed; and they said, ‘This is your god, and the god of Moses, whom he has forgotten.’)…Moses then asked, “What did you think you were doing, O Samaritan?”
Now, let us consider this for just a moment. How can a Samaritan have led the Israelites astray at the time of Moses (approx 1400 B.C.) when the city of Samaria was founded by King Omri about 870 B.C.? The Samaritans did not exist until after the exile of the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the resettlement of the area under King Sargon II in 722 B.C. with non-Israelites who then adopted a syncretism (mixture) between the religion of the Jews and their own polytheistic background. The Samaritans did not exist until 530 years after Moses. By this mistake alone, the Qur’an can be rendered unreliable and certainly not an inerrant work of God.
"Im having a conversation" is quite possibly the best way to just jab in a debate and leave it
The Orthodox in the video is ananda apologetics.
Sneako is a glazer. He only converted because his Top G did it.
One of my colleagues is Iranian and he is secretly ex-Muslim. He only confided in me when he found out I am a Christian. He keeps it a secret that he left Islam years and years ago, out of fear that he will be killed by his cousins.
He said he's an atheist. He would ask me questions about Jesus and I would answer him backed by scripture.
Then he told me he attended Easter Sunday service out of curiosity and days after, has accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior! Hallelujah!
Never give up on the Muslims that you know! Keep planting seeds in their hearts!
They may reject Jesus on the spot but who knows, that seed will grow and eventually will sprout!
*The Bible being full of eye-witness, full of testimonies and proved to be reliable*
People: Jesus didn't die on the cross!
*The Qur'an that copied everything from the past religious texts (including the Bible), for then changing some things*
People: Jesus is a prophet! The idol called "Allah" is real!
Does anyone know how to save a comment? This is a good argument.
@@SleekYeoung if you use a phone, you could re-write my comment, and copy it in your notes (the ones on the keyboard)
How do you make bold letters in a comment?
@@Batman_193 put the "*" at the end and start of a word.
if you put another word behind or in front of the word with the "*", then its not gonna work. for example: *Hello*, this didnt highlight because it had a comma (,) in front of the word
*Hello* . this did highlight because i didnt put *anything* immediatly after the word, but i put a space, and then used the punctuation (the dot, which is: ".", in this case)
you can do words _like these_ by using "_", in the same way of earlier, with the same rules
Kyle-- this is the BEST video I have ever seen from you! Thank you brother! 😊
Quran is a fully copied book from Bible and torah, the worst part is they don't even get a right Bible to copy!!! Everything mention in the Quran is incorrect, in fact most of the verse from Quran are from gnostic Bible, Christian hymns and poems, Jews songs and poems and some of them are from Ancient non religious book.
They collected all these pieces of books circulating in Arabia during 3th or 4th or 5th century AD and claims its a final revelation from Allah, which is hilarious!!! Its funny!!
i feel like mohammed, police be upon him, didnt know his heresey would dominate the way it is today, thats why muslims are laeving in droves to come serve the REAL Live God :D
is the holy trinity like how in gta 5 you have 3 characters but only one player ?
Real trinity is evil and good and neutrality
@@Ninjajitsu562 can we the quadrity update ?
@Ninjajitsu562 completely wrong and dumb
@@hagymascsiposgyros5780 three in one …you have to understand God is not limited like human do..
@@iampog7433 oh access to console commands i get it
15:43 That's Ananda Apologetics - he is brilliant!
17:15 Yeah you should definitely get him on.
He believes in three gods.
@@AlonzoHarris235We dont
@@AlonzoHarris235 Sounds like someone needs to watch Ananda's brand new video on the Trinity.
@@AlonzoHarris235 you aint cooking lil bro
@@svarga1
I have watched it. It’s very poor. He can’t even answer if the trinity is one self or three selves.
If only people would not engage with the clout of people like sneako, the world would be a better place.
As an ex-muslim let me tell you,
Islam is NOT an Abrahamic religion,
It certainly copied a lot from Abrahamic religions but itself is not one.
Kaaba was not build by Abraham it was build by pagans. As a matter a fact there were dozens of kaabas belonging to different pagan gods and filled with their statues, but mohammad destroyed them and kept one for himself.
ok
So why is Abraham on it, smart ass?
It is by definition an Abrahamic religion as Abraham started it but whatever bro, you go watch ur CP and Sam Shamoun instead of actually learning about the religion
@@Asphyx1ator i don’t you if you’re defending paganism or not
@@aelamsocool Ah yes because worshipping one God = pagan, gotcha 😬
Andrew tate based his argument on american christianity, christianity in america is weak and about lgbtq but where im from in serbia orthodox christianity is never mocked or have lgtbq ever protesting in serbian churches because trust me serbs are like russians we will come out and make it know dont mess with our relgion
I will never understand why Muslims will consider Jesus a prophet yet will not believe the people that actually met him and were all willing to die for what he taught them. Instead they will believe somebody that came 600 years afterwards.
hello kyle, muslim here, this is the first video i've seen on your channel and 15 minutes into the video i had to stop and write a comment because most of what you said about islam is either misrepresented or actually wrong, some parts were true but sadly they were presented in form of mockery and honestly that shows insincerity on your part. some of what you got wrong here is the meaning of muslim, a muslim is someone who submit himself to god, and when we say that jesus and moses and the other prophets where muslims we mean that they submitted themselves to only god, these prophets may have had different laws, laws that we may not have today as muslims, so they may have different forms of prayer or different times of prayer but they're still muslim and this why we say that jesus was muslim, we don't say it because he prostrated like we do. another example is when you said that the quran doesn't say that the bible is corrupted, this basically shows that you don't really understand the quran, because in many verses god says that the people of the book alter the scripture, one example is ﴿وَإِنَّ مِنهُم لَفَريقًا يَلوونَ أَلسِنَتَهُم بِالكِتابِ لِتَحسَبوهُ مِنَ الكِتابِ وَما هُوَ مِنَ الكِتابِ وَيَقولونَ هُوَ مِن عِندِ اللَّهِ وَما هُوَ مِن عِندِ اللَّهِ وَيَقولونَ عَلَى اللَّهِ الكَذِبَ وَهُم يَعلَمونَ﴾ [آل عمران: ٧٨]
English (Saheeh):
(78) And indeed, there is among them a party who alter the Scripture with their tongues so you may think it is from the Scripture, but it is not from the Scripture. And they say, "This is from Allāh," but it is not from Allāh. And they speak untruth about Allāh while they know.
First: Altering with the tongue is not corrupting the written documents....
Do you think this party among them dipped their tongues in ink and licked the page 🤣
Of course that's silly, so you lose a point for that.
Altering with the tongue would be misquoting and twisting the scripture in speech.
Second: Jesus did not pray like a muslim, because He prayed to The Father, and muslims say by no means can allah be a father.
Moses spoke face to face with The Son on the mountain, so again you lose a point.
Maybe you can explain this-
Muhammad says he is the first muslim in 6:163
Is he the first to submit?
Then who before him was muslim and submitted to allah?
Not any of those biblical figures you mentioned.
keep going kyle, you are doing a great job. and god bless america.
sneako turn islam just because His idol *andrew tate* turn to islam😂😂
Actually I think that debate between Sneako and the Orthodox guy was not very helpful at all. First of all Sneako's not a philosopher, he even says very clearly in the video - "The reason I left Christianity is because I've never heard an answer that makes sense TO ME". The Ortho guy just spews a bunch of high level, hard to understand, dogmatic definitions with "insider" language. Why go that route? It would be way more useful to make some good analogies, go full Pageau mode and show how the multiplicity/unity can be observed everywhere.
I think just dumping a bunch of philosophical definitions on a simple guy and then essentially calling him too dumb to understand it is counterproductive. Make it understandable TO HIM and maybe he'll change his mind.
I can see your point though, Pageau's breakdown/approach would require a 1 on 1 conversation where there is no other Muslim around interrupting and definitely not at speakers corner.
At speakers corner, high level debate is a thing. Truth is, to your point, Sneako shouldn't be at speakers corner at all.
This is evident by him walking away when conversations go over his head..his pride can't take it if I had to guess.
The Christian guy doesn’t even understand what he is saying.
He is just waffling.
People of falsehood need to waffle.
The Christian believes in three gods.
Great video Kyle, I hope you are having a blessed Holy Lent!
I’ve been apart of an extremely liberal Greek Orthodox Church so I wouldn’t say it’s honest to declare orthodoxy doesn’t have that issue, and I’ve heard many other complain about Greek churches
My family is catholic and I’m interested in Orthodoxy, but I find a lack of churches in Ok/TX region
OKC has St. Elias Antiochian Orthodox Church. There's also good Churches in Tulsa.
There are a fair amount of Orthodox Churches in Texas. Houston, and Dallas have a bit.
Even if the church is two hours away you should still go, I did that for 2 years, not every week but at least in the beginning
Hmm, there’s a good amount of parishes in those areas.
My family is atheist.
I think I'm completely convinced of Orthodoxy and Orthodox teaching. I want to see an Orthodox church with my own eyes.
There's one problem though: I live in Cancún, Mexico.
Are there any Orthodox churches near me?
Brother Kyle are you lifting weights? ☦️❤️🔥
i'm not christian but i really like this guy's reasoning. He knows his stuff.