✨ALSO! At 4:23 Inspiring Philosophy has MANY videos showing the Pew Reviewed Meta Analysis that find Religion is ASSOCIATED with LESS Crime and violence. "Approximately 90 percent of the studies (244 of 270) find an inverse or beneficial relationship between religion and some measure of crime .." Watch Here th-cam.com/video/iacF2c_fDoA/w-d-xo.html ✨
@@Theo_SkeptomaiI believe in the video the guy said religion is worse than secularism for society, he didn't tell atheists to do anything. But if I were kyle I would say "turn to Jesus"
@Commentary173 Hey man, yeah I’m on there sometimes. Been doing my best lately to keep out of comment sections and humble myself. Hope you’re doing well
@matthewjama You don't need to speak greek or russian. Fr Seraphim Rose became one of the greatest priests in American history and his local parish was russian speaking
@@masxalis6978The big bang theory doesn’t say anything about what happened before the singularity, and it’s probably impossible to ever know what happened before it, if anything at all. People who claim the Big Bang happened out of nothing can’t verify it. All the theory claims is that the universe has been expanding from an incredibly hot and dense point. Many lines of evidence confirm this like the redshirting of distant galaxies and the CMBR
Atheism really is population control. Atheists are the ones not having children because their comfort is their highest priority. "Survival of the fittest" is a religion. Because ultimately, who determines who is fit to survive, when you don't even give unborn children a chance at life? Circumstances don't determine a person's fitness to survive or thrive. On Atheism, however, a human life is disposable; if a person's circumstances are unfavorable, let's say they got in a car accident and are now disabled, or happen to have a health condition, or are old, they don't serve a purpose according to the standards of the world, so might as well unalive them because "survival of the fittest". Another thing that caught my attention is that on one hand, one of the atheists in the video said that he doesn't need religion or God to inform his morality because all people have a conscience. And then later, "morality is subjective". How does "all people have a conscience and don't need God to be moral" account for the fact that there are evil people in the world who kill, steal and destroy? "Oh, well, morality is subjective and relative." Interesting. So, if morality is relative, then why is leaning on God for morality "bad"? Why is ANYTHING bad at all? If morality is subjective and everyone determines their own morality, then you have no right to tell anyone else that they're wrong or that their actions are bad. Because it's all subjective. But it's also "bad" when people don't think it's subjective and relative. Atheists can be summed up thus: "trust me bro, just listen to me because I think I'm right. Yeah, I said that I think you're right too because everyone has their own truth, but my truth is better than your truth because I said so".
“To the unmarried and widows I say that it is best for them to remain as I am [celibate and single]. But if they do not have self-control, let them get married. For it is better to marry than to burn with sexual desire” (1 Cor. 7:8-9)" So the ideal for Christians is to be celibate like Paul and therefore childless.
@@tomasrocha6139 Paul was very clear that is HIS opinion. Peter had a wife, God gave the commandment to multiply, most of the patriarchs had wives, etc. Paul was very clear it is his opinion, and it only applied to widows and people who were unmarried lol. You really think you did something huh?
@@thehungh0nkey853 It's an authoritative instruction like any other. One might as well say Paul's views on polygamy, adultery and premarital sex also merely his opinion since Abraham, Jacob etc. had multiple wives and concubines. Peter was already married before becoming a Christian and he makes mistakes constantly.
@@tomasrocha6139 The ideal according to Paul. He's very clear about that. He also writes extensively on how men and women ought to conduct themselves before, within and after marriage. If one doesn't want children and the responsibility it comes with, one ought not to have sex. That's a high bar for most people, and Paul understands this, which is why he says that it's better to marry than to burn with desire. Atheism, however, promotes consumerism and the idea that satisfying the desires of the flesh and fleeting pleasures is all there is to life. The fact that "Pride" is aggressively pushed on every country and every institution and business on the planet is evidence of that.
@@tomasrocha6139oh my gosh! You are so smart. The church has never caught this. How prideful do you have to be to think you are smarter than a 2000 year old institution? Do you all realize we are going on 300 years of the same arguments from atheists? All of them have been throughly refuted. Atheists leaders just know you are to lazy to look.
That first clip with Isaac Asimov is ironic. "You don't need God to be a good person!" Yeah...how's that working out for your legacy? (He is known to have been a bit of a pervert & harasser of women himself, and then there's what his son did. Unspeakably horrible. Only look that up if you have a very strong stomach.)
He should’ve stuck to talking about his dorky robots, but I can’t find out what his son did so I’d appreciate any help all I see is vague defenses of Isaac and reddit lying and saying they barely had a relationship
@@david-468 His son was involved in an evil operation which had to do with horrific child abuse & an incredibly large amount of such material. Even decades ago the sci-fi scene was infested with degenerates including child abusers. Asimov is said to have disliked and neglected his son, so it's possible something happened to him without a father to protect him. If Asimov believed in God and took fatherhood seriously, maybe his son would not have grown up to be a monster.
@@alfredvickers4054 oh ok yeah I’m familiar with the degeneracy in science I mean look up 18th and 19th century psychologists and that shows enough of what they’re like
I am not convinced any god to be a reality for I have never encountered any credible evidence suggesting such a reality. So, until I do encounter sufficient credible evidence that such a reality exists, I will continue to suspend any acknowledgment concerning the truth of _your_ claim that one does. THAT represents the entirety of my position of atheism. Instead of fearing this rational position and disparaging those that hold to it, take the time and effort to understand the position.
@@Theo_Skeptomai Yeah we have credible evidence. It's called go to Church. "Instead of fearing this rational position and disparaging those that hold to it, take the time and effort to understand the position." Now let me use this argument for Christianity.
Once in my (college) bio class, we were discussing evolution. A common argument against evolution is the argument of complexity which, I feel, is a pretty good argument. An evolutionist attempted to refute this by saying, “the only difference between a spoon and a cat is that a cat is more complex.” They acted like this was a profound statement. Yet if you asked the evolutionist, did the spoon evolve over time or did someone create it? They would say that someone made the spoon, and yet it’s immensely less complex than a living creature. But the cat evolved? If you stumbled upon a brick wall in the middle of the desert, you would think that someone was there to make the bricks and place them in an organized manner. The structures and functions found in biology point to a design!
@@isaacclarkefan I like how they just throw an incomprehensible amount of time behind their theories and just expect us to accept it 😂 like how do they even come up with these numbers?
Today I started my conversion journey at st Anthony’s Greek Orthodox monastery today! I talked with Fr. Philared, he is the most kind, calm, and humble person I have ever met! He gave me 4 free books to help me learn, he gave me a 100 knot prayer rope, and from a kind monk he gave me an icon of elder Ephraim of Arizona and a Greek chocolate bar! I also got blessed cranberry walnut bread from another extremely kind monk! I also got another orthodox book called patristic theology to help me learn! The books I got were: Patristic theology A book by st seraphim of sarov Lives of Saints John of Damascus, Barlaam, and Ioasaph Counsels from the holy mountain: selected from the letters and homilies of geronda Ephraim of Arizona The life of st paisios I am so excited to convert! I leap in joy and rejoice! I am so excited to continue on my journey! ☦️❤️🙏📿☺️✝️
@@Theo_SkeptomaiI mean, let's put it this way; archeology is a form of science. Now, archeology has not been able to disprove Christianity. If anything, it made Christianity more credible. What's secular science, a lot of their equations couldn't work without making some things up meaning red conning their ideas so that it could work with no evidence which requires more faith than a Christian believing in their own faith. Literal argument that Thomas Aquarius does against Islam because Islam lacks evidence from outside records. For example he makes a case how there's outside evidence And records about Jesus Christ in some of his miracles. While in the Quran he said that Muhammad supposedly split the moon in half and put it together yet there's no outside sources from anywhere in the world to seeing that happen. Also the Quran gets a lot of locations wrong... Christianity is Blind Faith is kind of retarded, Christians actually do have evidence of the religion.
@@Theo_Skeptomaibecause if you were an atheist then you wouldn’t see the point in living, crying, laughing or doing anything, modern “atheists” are just people who enjoy gods gifts but don’t believe in a god, and that is partially what makes somone an antheist but not fully
@@TheRealTrucido "The universe isnt eternal." - Can you prove this ? "Hence it was created." - Even if this were the case, that does not prove the existence of some god.
@@louisdeniau8571your question is irrelevant to his joke. Maybe remove your pride and bias and actually watch the videos rather than just clicking on them to comment “skydaddy🤓☝🏻” and other irrelevant claims that make no sense or have any relation to the topic of the videos arguments
Another Kyle classic. Bless you and your spiritual family at your parish! May they all help you in making your content so more people can find the Truth!
Isn’t it ironic how once you pass a threshold of understanding - like in the instance of atheism is flawed here - that it sounds just completely incoherent moving forward from every angle
YES!!! I DO NEED JESUS TO BE A GOOD PERSON!!! I WAS A BROKEN SOCIOPATH BEFORE JESUS GOT TO ME!!! JESUS JUSTIFIED THE BROKEN AND THE WICKED, HE LOVES THE BROKEN AND THE WICKED!!! THAT'S LITTERALLY WHO HE DIED FOR!!! ONLY BY THE POWER OF JESUS COULD ME AND MY FRIENDS BE GOOD PEOPLE!!! AMEN
Praying does not work so there's no point asking people to pray for you.. if you need something such as money or other things maybe people can help you with that but don't waste your time praying
@@kevinlipps2817 "Prayer doesn't work" Get away from me, Satan! He's calling for help and you're mocking him for it. Yes, prayer works. I notice that doing prostrations enough times makes my bones crack so I can move easier. I literally got taller. I wasn't even praying for that because it's a dumb thing to ask for.
If an atheist says morals are subjective just ask them if murder will ever be correct ? Ofc the answer is no meaning there is objective morality. Now let me debunk atheism 1. Straw Man Fallacy: The challenge misrepresents the religious claim. People who support religion do not argue that non-religious people can't have morals. Instead, they argue about the foundation for objective morality. 2. Objective Morality: For morality to be truly objective, it must be grounded in something beyond human opinion. For believers, this grounding is found in God's unchanging nature. 3. Relativism vs. Objectivism: Without God, moral standards are seen as relative. This means moral principles can change based on societal or individual beliefs. For example, if society once believed slavery was right, then, under moral relativism, it was right at that time. Let's break down this argument: 1. Misrepresentation of the Religious Claim The challenge asserts that you don't need religion to have morals and that the lack of empathy, not religion, is the issue. This statement addresses a simplified view of the religious position. Most believers acknowledge that non-believers can act morally. The critical question is not whether non-believers can have morals but rather what grounds these morals. The real issue is about the foundation of objective morality. 2. The Foundation for Objective Morality Objective morality suggests that some actions are right or wrong independently of human opinions. For instance, the statement "slavery is wrong" is believed to be true regardless of whether any particular society believes it to be true. This objectivity requires a foundation that transcends human subjectivity, which believers identify as God. Without God: - Subjectivity: Morals become subjective, dependent on individual or societal beliefs. - Changeability: What is considered moral can change over time and across cultures. With God: - Objectivity: Morals are grounded in God's eternal and unchanging nature. - Consistency: Moral principles remain constant regardless of human opinions. 3. Relativism vs. Objectivism If morals are merely a human invention (moral relativism), then nothing is inherently right or wrong. Instead, morality fluctuates with societal norms and individual beliefs. For example: - Historical Context: If a society once considered slavery acceptable, then under moral relativism, it was "right" at that time. - Moral Relativism: This view implies that moral judgments are based on cultural consensus rather than any inherent truth. In contrast, believers argue for moral objectivism: - Inherent Truth: Actions like slavery are inherently wrong, regardless of societal beliefs. - Divine Standard: This inherent wrongness is grounded in God's nature, which provides an unchanging standard. Conclusion The challenge acknowledges that non-religious individuals can exhibit moral behavior, which is not disputed. The crux of the argument is about the foundation of these morals. Without belief in God, morals become subjective and relative, susceptible to change with societal norms. With belief in God, morals are objective and grounded in a transcendent standard. This leads to the conclusion that the existence of objective morality implies the existence of a moral lawgiver, which believers identify as God.
@game_scaling9310 we think ourself to be divnly choosen when there is billions if not trillions of planets out there we are just coping that we are alone one day we will find other life
@leonmckendry6081 Even if there were a 100% consensus that murder was immoral, it doesn't mean this moral assessment isn't _subjective._ Do you agree?
"you are being good to get a ticket to heaven" LoL if it was that simple, Actually we don't believe you can get to heaven by just being "a good person" Non of us is a "good person" We need Christ to guide us, we need his Mercy And we get that grace by faith, not by works And after you get God's mercy by faith then , you get Joy to worship him Go to the liturgy , fasting, receive Communion, and become a good person to glorify his will, and hence society becomes better as a result. With atheism society is becoming worse while you try to make it better.
While I agree with you, wasn't there like a quote from Christ himself saying "without works faith is dead".I mean if our religion was all about faith and not works,then even demons would be saints wouldn't they?
Seems most atheist arguments either stem from a misunderstanding “I can be an atheist and have morals”…. So your admitting to objective morals then huh? Or from an entire dismissal and refusal to do research, calling the Bible a “fairytale” dismissing all the biblical evidence and prophecies
I love how the first Atheist completely misrepresents the argument. The argument isn't that we shouldn't kill each other because we go to hell. No, it's because humans have dignity, and they have dignity, because they were made in the image of God. Genesis [9:6] “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.
Catholics predate orthodox. Yes Apostolic succesion is valid for both. But until 1054, you didnt have a separate Orthodox institution, and they were the ones begging us to not leave the papal bull excommunicating them. Dont let them lie (even tho we still love our orth brothers)
Okay, why should I believe that a man 2000 years ago was born from a virgin, walked on water, and rose the dead when we otherwise consider these things to be impossible?
@Theo_Skeptomai [Tips fedora] You're not interested in what I believe or what I have to say because, more often than not, there is nothing that you will accept and many of you argue for the sake of it.
I have a question for you, Kyle. I’m curious, since you talk about having a standard for morality. What is your standard for objective morality? Is it the Bible? Some other source? If it is the Bible, how do you know which commandments to follow and which ones to ignore?
I think I can help :) While human morality is subjective, defined by our whims and selfish desires, God's morality is objective. His will and nature do not change. What is aligned with God's character is good, and thay which is opposed to Him is evil. We have two ways of following God's moral laws. Firstly, we can intuit it. Scripture tells us that His moral law is engraved in our hearts. That's why we sort of know generally right from wrong. We intrinsically know that people have innate value, and that it is good to tell truth. More than that, we feel guilty when we've done wrong, unless we let our sin numb our conscience. Secondly, we learn what is right and wrong from scripture. For example, God commands us to love our neighbors as ourselves. We also learn that we are created in His image, and He came down to die for us because He loves us. Therefore, it is right to love others, just as God first loved us. You seem to have this misconception that Christians pick and choose which laws in the Old Testament to obey. We're supposed to love our neighbor, but we dont have to obey the bits about eating pork and wearing mixed fabrics? There's a distinction between God's eternal moral laws, and the customary laws designed for Israel to distinguish them among the nations. It was the role of the Israelites to bring the Messiah into the world. Once Jesus fulfilled that role, he also fulfilled those laws. They don't apply anymore, their purpose has been fulfilled.
Кайлу идёт борода. Православные наверное чаще остальных христиан носят бороду. Надо как-то внешне соответствовать, наверное. (Я тоже православный и бородат)
Yeah yeah I know it's not an "argument" but it is funny how a few minutes into this video you immediately start with "I used to be just like you and I was proud of it... until I started looking into it..!" and then spamming a bunch of quick meme images is exactly how flat earther videos go Also why do you keep spamming the David Hume is-ought slide? It literally points out you can have the goal of minimising pain. If a group agrees on a goal like minimising pain, they can ban stabbing outside of specific circumstances, spend more money on funding research for treatable diseases etc. If morality is not objective, how is it an issue? In everyday usage you can absolutely ascribe to relative morals and different cultures/humanity can change their morals over time. Do you think it's like an epic own to say "S-so you think murder isn't objectively wrong???". No, I don't but I do think it is wrong and I don't want to do it. So what? Ironically, I have never seen an argument from you against moral relativism other than that it "feels" or "sounds" wrong or something
@@Pyr0Ben People and living things with a nervous system in general naturally have an aversion to physical pain and stress (not a choice). Are you asking a sincere question?
@@shamadooee I know we all have an aversion to physical pain. Duh. I'm asking why we should seek the reduction of pain as a valuable goal. I'm asking for a good reason, besides "everyone agrees on it". What pain are we talking about? Physical pain, mental, spiritual? In many ways, pain is necessary and can make us grow. "Reduction of pain" sounds like a virtuous smokescreen for "maximization of pleasure", and anyone who doesn't have their head up their ass can see where that leads. I dont wan't to cause unnecessary physical pain because all animals and people were created by God and thus deserve respect. We are commanded by scripture to do this: "A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel" (Proverbs 12:10). See? I've derived an objective reason why reducing animal cruelty is good from scripture and reason. My argument against moral relativism isn't that it feels wrong. Its that its completely subjective, and ultimately appeals to our own selfish sinful desires before any real standard of goodness.
@@Pyr0Ben The examples I gave above were putting in place laws to reduce violence and funding research on curing diseases. How are either of these just "maximising pleasure"? What would you gain from instead letting violence and disease run rampant? Is there a lesson in that? Finding out that they're bad? > I'm asking for a good reason, besides "everyone agrees on it" Define "good". Why should I care if it is good or not if it aligns with everyone's goals? > why we should seek the reduction of pain as a valuable goal. Because human beings place value on staying alive and not being in pain. Duh indeed Are you proposing that if morals are subjective, then we should not care about minimising pain? What is your logical basis for making that jump? > I dont wan't to cause unnecessary physical pain because all animals and people were created by God and thus deserve respect. We are commanded by scripture to do this What if you were instead commanded by God to kill your child? Would that be moral? > My argument against moral relativism isn't that it feels wrong. Its that its completely subjective Moral relativism =/= subjectivism. Just google the difference. Also there is no argument for either of the world views here, just what you say below which feels very much like an "it feels wrong" argument > Its that its completely subjective, and ultimately appeals to our own selfish sinful desires Explain how reducing disease or violence is "sinful"
Kyle, I watched your video on how to make reading fun, and I am applying your tips to my reading on Marcus Aurelius (I am ignoring the pagan nonsense and highlighting the really good life tips). And I have got to say, it is not only fun, but extremely beneficial. You inspire me to live a simple, nice, joyful, orthodox Christian, minimalist life. I will definitely be studying books much more with your tips. I just studied five pages of Marcus Aurelius. You are amazing! God bless you ☦️❤️🙏
Great video. That 45000 denominations has been debunked. There’s like 8 Protestant denominations. That number 45k is just because of the name of the churches
Orthodox rant was funny but literally what orthodox? Throwing smoke on Catholics was silly, at least we have a consistent view. Why push people from joining an apostolic church?
1:51 simple rashanalty is how to know what is good and what is bad. Just stop trying to think that science is a belief system, that's religion or should I say make believe 🤔
I'm a moral relativist and I would argue that religious morality is just as subjective as an atheist's morality even if a religious person claims that their morality is objective. One example of this that comes to mind is homosexuality. Many Christians view homosexuality as sinful and immoral, but I've never understood why it matters so long as all parties in a sexual relationship are consenting and no one is being hurt. In my experience, Christians don't really seem to be able to give me an answer as to why it's sinful that doesn't essentially boil down to "because the bible says so". This makes me wonder, if Christian morality comes down from God himself, does God say something is moral because it is moral or is it moral because God says so? If the latter is true, God could say that rape and murder are good and it would be so. Another thing to consider in this case in whether what God says is moral is any less subjective than our own opinions on morality simply because he's an all-powerful being. If the former is true, then Christians should be able to give an answer as to why homosexuality is wrong independently of the bible or God.
The answer is simply that from a naturalist perspective homosexuality destroys the order of reproduction and maturing of the species also people can interpret objective thing differently that is why people disagree on morality even in the church
@@Theo_Skeptomai No, we all have reasons why we believe in God and the resurrection. I'm simply recommending that belief as a believer, doing the work God has commanded me to do.
@sup7530 I am currently not convinced that this Jesus is a reality nor that he was ever a historical person. Therefore, I will continue to suspend any acknowledgment as to the reality of this Jesus until sufficient credible evidence is presented. Do you believe that I am _rationally justified_ in my position?
@@Theo_Skeptomai Jesus is literally one of the most well documented figures of antiquity so I don't know where you get the claim that He apparently didn't exist. I do not believe that you are rationally justified. Watch Testify Apologetics and there is also the fact that Josephus and Tacitus mention Jesus. So I don't know how you would claim that He didn't exist when He is literally one of the most well documented figures of antiquity.
its crazy how somehow god let the most popular biblical translation be wrong and allowed protestant countries to be so successful in comparison to Orthodox countries. Im sure you somehow get to decide who is Christian and who is not because you believe doing your rituals in your church pleases God. good luck with that
Saying catholicism caused protestantism is like saying orthodoxy caused islam... when you say "look at history" you just mean, look at history through the lens that is favorable to orthodoxy
Early Church Fathers' commentary on "I tell you that you are Peter and upon this rock, I will build My Church." Rock is a confession of Peter's faith, not Peter himself. Get out of the Trad Catholic stuff and become Eastern Orthodox. You should watch Bottom of the Rabbit Hole. He has a video talking about why he chose Holy Orthodoxy over Roman Catholicism.
@@Christisrisen37 It is both, the faith and Peter himself, it is his personal name that is changed is not "just" a declaration of his faith, if Saint John Chrysostom points to the fact that it's the faith, that doesn't take away the other aspect, they are not contrary to each other. No other person gets that name, only him.
It's not a fallacy to cite authorities or attestations, its only a fallacy when you're arguing on a worldview level or are in 2 different paradigms and you're saying that an authority's testimony is proving a position. "My position is true because my doctor says so" vs "my position is true because of X and Y reasons and here's a list of respected people who have also come to the same conclusion based on these reasons". It's helpful at a rhetorical level. The reason you can just say "it's true cause God says so" with Christians is because they're already in the same paradigm and have accepted that authority as true and infallible.
Hey Kyle I recently saw this video on my feed that’s gotten quite a bit of attention in a short amount of time. It’s by a guy named Distinguo. The title is “ONE Argument DESTROYS Eastern Orthodox HERESY”
@@Theo_Skeptomai You're the atheist here. You tell us. Or for your sake, I'll say it. "If God real, why bad thing happen?" Bad things happen to people because humanity fell into sin and because of that sin, the world is now subject to disease and death. Not only is it subject to disease and death but there would also be the terrible things people do to each other. This actually PROVES the existence of God because it shows that humanity would be doing something contrary to what God said which is what evil is, anything contrary to God's law, but the reason as to why bad things happen is because God would not allow any evil in his works unless He could bring goodness even out of evil. So yes, God is real and bad things happen, yes, but God delivers them. Psalm 34:18 - The LORD is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit.
I am not convinced any god to be a reality for I have never encountered any credible evidence suggesting such a reality. So, until I do encounter sufficient credible evidence that such a reality exists, I will continue to suspend any acknowledgment concerning the truth of _your_ claim that one does. THAT represents the entirety of my position of atheism. Instead of fearing this rational position and disparaging those that hold to it, take the time and effort to understand the position.
@MASONMILLSGAMING-hm9qt _Credible_ evidence - that which can be verified for verified for validity, accuracy, and authenticity. Are you aware of any such credible evidence that demonstrates the reality of a god? Yes or no.
@@Theo_Skeptomai I'm still learning about the Credibility of the Bible, but if I'm being honest, at this point, that I'm aware of, no. However, I still have other reasons to believe in God, like the uncaused first cause. So, science tells that everything has a cause, so think of it as dominoes which obviously you need another domino to knock over, so if everything needed a cause, this chain of dominoes would literally have no beginning, there's no start because there's always another domino before it. And no, the Universe can't be the uncaused first cause, that's literally impossible because the universe would have to be timeless... which is clearly isn't because time exists. Also, I know about Quantum Fluctuations but that's not likely either because that's energy in a vacuum causing matter to appear for some time, but vacuums and energy don't spawn out of nowhere, and vacuums can't be timeless, because the entire universe is a vacuum, and the universe has time. By the way, I'm pretty sure my conclusion isn't comitting the God of the Gaps Fallacy, I've used our scientific understanding to narrow down the uncaused first cause to a Timeless, Uncaused Being which has the ability to create, that's literally the definition of God, and is impossible in the realm of science because it falls under time. Also by the way, one question for you, but whats the point of arguing for atheism? Even if atheism is true, we are all gonna die anyway and death on that worldview is just... nothingness, and nothing will be remembered. Then, one day the universe will collapse, and everything will die, and everything humanity has ever done just got rendered worthless and meaningless, whether it was every argument for or against religion, its all gone, and nobody won. Okay, and I want you to make sure that I'm not saying this to try to convert you into Christianity, but why be on atheism where its guaranteed no win?
✨ALSO! At 4:23 Inspiring Philosophy has MANY videos showing the Pew Reviewed Meta Analysis that find Religion is ASSOCIATED with LESS Crime and violence. "Approximately 90 percent of the studies (244 of 270) find an inverse or beneficial relationship between religion and some measure of crime .." Watch Here th-cam.com/video/iacF2c_fDoA/w-d-xo.html ✨
Please do a video on dispensationalism
I love IP’s work.
@@OrthodoxKyle So, what exactly are you suggesting that I, an atheist, do? Please be specific.
@@Theo_SkeptomaiI believe in the video the guy said religion is worse than secularism for society, he didn't tell atheists to do anything. But if I were kyle I would say "turn to Jesus"
I dare you to give me any evidence for a God. Any God will do. I'll even settle for anything supernatural or divine. Anything at all, I'll wait.
RIP Orthobeard. Taken from us before it was allowed to mature
-Aborted the beard-
Jk, it's probably just an old video.
Old video.
Oh hey dude, how are you? I think I met you in an Abolitionists Rising comment section.
@Commentary173 Hey man, yeah I’m on there sometimes. Been doing my best lately to keep out of comment sections and humble myself. Hope you’re doing well
Love the "2000 years of theology down the drain" memes😭💀
0:15 good luck Kyle 🤪
Sideburns are literally the worst thing to keep, i quite literally don’t understand why people don’t shave that stuff bruh
@2tallyYeah but they hurt my eyes when i see them
what is the date when luigi and pinesap will debate kyle are you a monarchist?
Yes, I am only virtuous because Christ is king.
Hello Kyle, where is the Jay Dyer clip from?
nice video
The chops
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0:45 yes (pathetic come up with better reasoning) so basically you're talking about yourself again Kyle 😒
I was an atheist then an anglican and now as of June 22nd 2024 I am a full member of the Orthodox Church Glory to Christ our God
Rail fan ?
@@alexbind8347 Yeah
massachusetts but anglican? how
@@kinguincs Episcopalians are Anglican
God bless you brother! I used to be an atheist, then an Anglican. Now I’m on my way to getting confirmed in the Orthodox Church. Pray for me. 🙏 ☦️
Kyle might just convince me to be orthodox.
the problem for me is, not enough orthodox churches in London, and if they are, I need to speak Greek or Russian
@matthewjama
You don't need to speak greek or russian. Fr Seraphim Rose became one of the greatest priests in American history and his local parish was russian speaking
@@matthewjama ^
Yeah, Im just about being convinced to become orthodox too
Pray on it and come visit a Church: orthodoxyinamerica.org/
The bomb definitely dropped but there was no Boom 💥
The boom was as real as the boom that created the world 🤣
Lmaooo
@@masxalis6978 The big bang. That is literally the boom right there.
Thinking that there's a scientific answer, but the scientific answer is God.
@@masxalis6978The big bang theory doesn’t say anything about what happened before the singularity, and it’s probably impossible to ever know what happened before it, if anything at all. People who claim the Big Bang happened out of nothing can’t verify it. All the theory claims is that the universe has been expanding from an incredibly hot and dense point. Many lines of evidence confirm this like the redshirting of distant galaxies and the CMBR
Do atheists really think one comment will make us go
Dang.. all two thousand years of Christian theology down the drain...
No.
Yes they actually do.
@@Wildxgiyu Well, you're wrong. I don't have that expectation.
@@Theo_Skeptomai ok but I've seen
➡️**some**⬅️left atheist who think like that
..........⬆️
@Wildxgiyu Then, why don't you correct your assertion so that it is true? Have you ever heard of the word 'SOME'?
Those side burns are a crime worthy of eternal punishment
Those side burns are anathema
They’re literally his best quality
Those sideburns are his only redeeming quality
Dude saw shopenhauer and was like this is the look
They are called mutton chops
Atheism really is population control. Atheists are the ones not having children because their comfort is their highest priority. "Survival of the fittest" is a religion. Because ultimately, who determines who is fit to survive, when you don't even give unborn children a chance at life? Circumstances don't determine a person's fitness to survive or thrive. On Atheism, however, a human life is disposable; if a person's circumstances are unfavorable, let's say they got in a car accident and are now disabled, or happen to have a health condition, or are old, they don't serve a purpose according to the standards of the world, so might as well unalive them because "survival of the fittest".
Another thing that caught my attention is that on one hand, one of the atheists in the video said that he doesn't need religion or God to inform his morality because all people have a conscience. And then later, "morality is subjective". How does "all people have a conscience and don't need God to be moral" account for the fact that there are evil people in the world who kill, steal and destroy? "Oh, well, morality is subjective and relative." Interesting. So, if morality is relative, then why is leaning on God for morality "bad"? Why is ANYTHING bad at all? If morality is subjective and everyone determines their own morality, then you have no right to tell anyone else that they're wrong or that their actions are bad. Because it's all subjective. But it's also "bad" when people don't think it's subjective and relative. Atheists can be summed up thus: "trust me bro, just listen to me because I think I'm right. Yeah, I said that I think you're right too because everyone has their own truth, but my truth is better than your truth because I said so".
“To the unmarried and widows I say that it is best for them to remain as I am [celibate and single]. But if they do not have self-control, let them get married. For it is better to marry than to burn with sexual desire” (1 Cor. 7:8-9)"
So the ideal for Christians is to be celibate like Paul and therefore childless.
@@tomasrocha6139 Paul was very clear that is HIS opinion. Peter had a wife, God gave the commandment to multiply, most of the patriarchs had wives, etc. Paul was very clear it is his opinion, and it only applied to widows and people who were unmarried lol. You really think you did something huh?
@@thehungh0nkey853 It's an authoritative instruction like any other. One might as well say Paul's views on polygamy, adultery and premarital sex also merely his opinion since Abraham, Jacob etc. had multiple wives and concubines. Peter was already married before becoming a Christian and he makes mistakes constantly.
@@tomasrocha6139 The ideal according to Paul. He's very clear about that. He also writes extensively on how men and women ought to conduct themselves before, within and after marriage. If one doesn't want children and the responsibility it comes with, one ought not to have sex. That's a high bar for most people, and Paul understands this, which is why he says that it's better to marry than to burn with desire. Atheism, however, promotes consumerism and the idea that satisfying the desires of the flesh and fleeting pleasures is all there is to life. The fact that "Pride" is aggressively pushed on every country and every institution and business on the planet is evidence of that.
@@tomasrocha6139oh my gosh! You are so smart. The church has never caught this.
How prideful do you have to be to think you are smarter than a 2000 year old institution? Do you all realize we are going on 300 years of the same arguments from atheists? All of them have been throughly refuted. Atheists leaders just know you are to lazy to look.
That first clip with Isaac Asimov is ironic. "You don't need God to be a good person!" Yeah...how's that working out for your legacy? (He is known to have been a bit of a pervert & harasser of women himself, and then there's what his son did. Unspeakably horrible. Only look that up if you have a very strong stomach.)
He should’ve stuck to talking about his dorky robots, but I can’t find out what his son did so I’d appreciate any help all I see is vague defenses of Isaac and reddit lying and saying they barely had a relationship
Also didn’t know Isaac lied about having HIV and the media helped him
@@david-468 His son was involved in an evil operation which had to do with horrific child abuse & an incredibly large amount of such material.
Even decades ago the sci-fi scene was infested with degenerates including child abusers. Asimov is said to have disliked and neglected his son, so it's possible something happened to him without a father to protect him.
If Asimov believed in God and took fatherhood seriously, maybe his son would not have grown up to be a monster.
@@alfredvickers4054 oh ok yeah I’m familiar with the degeneracy in science I mean look up 18th and 19th century psychologists and that shows enough of what they’re like
Isaac Asimov was a known predator along with his son, this is what atheism does to families
I am not convinced any god to be a reality for I have never encountered any credible evidence suggesting such a reality. So, until I do encounter sufficient credible evidence that such a reality exists, I will continue to suspend any acknowledgment concerning the truth of _your_ claim that one does.
THAT represents the entirety of my position of atheism. Instead of fearing this rational position and disparaging those that hold to it, take the time and effort to understand the position.
No he wasn't, and it's funny when Churches protect groomers in their ranks more than anything
@Theo_Skeptomai ok bro 👌
@@channelMasterGuiGame He is literally everywhere.
@@Theo_Skeptomai Yeah we have credible evidence. It's called go to Church. "Instead of fearing this rational position and disparaging those that hold to it, take the time and effort to understand the position." Now let me use this argument for Christianity.
Once in my (college) bio class, we were discussing evolution. A common argument against evolution is the argument of complexity which, I feel, is a pretty good argument. An evolutionist attempted to refute this by saying, “the only difference between a spoon and a cat is that a cat is more complex.” They acted like this was a profound statement. Yet if you asked the evolutionist, did the spoon evolve over time or did someone create it? They would say that someone made the spoon, and yet it’s immensely less complex than a living creature. But the cat evolved? If you stumbled upon a brick wall in the middle of the desert, you would think that someone was there to make the bricks and place them in an organized manner. The structures and functions found in biology point to a design!
And the desire to survive and reproduce in organisms is absolutely fundamental to evolution and cannot be justified by evolutionism and naturalism.
I like this one.
Evolution requires a lot of time as part of the theory
Ask how they know that time exists
Use Hume's problem of induction
@@isaacclarkefan I like how they just throw an incomprehensible amount of time behind their theories and just expect us to accept it 😂 like how do they even come up with these numbers?
@@ashleighmiller4101 Becuase time and effort and you are denying an actual theory in science go learn what theory means in science
@@Florida79578 what? You can’t deny theories now?
Today I started my conversion journey at st Anthony’s Greek Orthodox monastery today! I talked with Fr. Philared, he is the most kind, calm, and humble person I have ever met! He gave me 4 free books to help me learn, he gave me a 100 knot prayer rope, and from a kind monk he gave me an icon of elder Ephraim of Arizona and a Greek chocolate bar! I also got blessed cranberry walnut bread from another extremely kind monk! I also got another orthodox book called patristic theology to help me learn! The books I got were:
Patristic theology
A book by st seraphim of sarov
Lives of Saints John of Damascus, Barlaam, and Ioasaph
Counsels from the holy mountain: selected from the letters and homilies of geronda Ephraim of Arizona
The life of st paisios
I am so excited to convert! I leap in joy and rejoice! I am so excited to continue on my journey! ☦️❤️🙏📿☺️✝️
Monks are the most down to earth yet separate from the world, it's astounding
That’s so wonderfully exciting! So happy for you! Welcome home!
I literally started crying at 0:32
I gave the same pfp on Instagram
Not only does Kyle prove that atheism doesn’t make sense, he also proves that Christians have the funniest memes 😂
I am not convinced ANY god to be a reality. How does that fact confuse you? Please explain.
@@Theo_SkeptomaiI mean, let's put it this way; archeology is a form of science. Now, archeology has not been able to disprove Christianity. If anything, it made Christianity more credible.
What's secular science, a lot of their equations couldn't work without making some things up meaning red conning their ideas so that it could work with no evidence which requires more faith than a Christian believing in their own faith.
Literal argument that Thomas Aquarius does against Islam because Islam lacks evidence from outside records. For example he makes a case how there's outside evidence And records about Jesus Christ in some of his miracles. While in the Quran he said that Muhammad supposedly split the moon in half and put it together yet there's no outside sources from anywhere in the world to seeing that happen.
Also the Quran gets a lot of locations wrong...
Christianity is Blind Faith is kind of retarded, Christians actually do have evidence of the religion.
@@Theo_Skeptomaibecause if you were an atheist then you wouldn’t see the point in living, crying, laughing or doing anything, modern “atheists” are just people who enjoy gods gifts but don’t believe in a god, and that is partially what makes somone an antheist but not fully
@@Theo_Skeptomai The universe isnt eternal. Hence it was created.
@@TheRealTrucido
"The universe isnt eternal."
- Can you prove this ?
"Hence it was created."
- Even if this were the case, that does not prove the existence of some god.
glory to god for saving him from being a reddit mod
did that prove your religion?
@@louisdeniau8571your question is irrelevant to his joke. Maybe remove your pride and bias and actually watch the videos rather than just clicking on them to comment “skydaddy🤓☝🏻” and other irrelevant claims that make no sense or have any relation to the topic of the videos arguments
@@louisdeniau8571Bro was making a funny. You just want to argue
Louis, go outside for once and take a joke
Another Kyle classic. Bless you and your spiritual family at your parish! May they all help you in making your content so more people can find the Truth!
Thank you! God bless!
Can you make a video about western rite orthodoxy?
Orthodox Ethos made a video a few days ago.
The "western rite" is a liturgically abusive monstrosity and basically not Orthodox.
Honestly Neil DeGrasse Tyson and his god science needs to be humbled.
I think he forgets it was the Christians that invented the scientific method LOL
Isn’t it ironic how once you pass a threshold of understanding - like in the instance of atheism is flawed here - that it sounds just completely incoherent moving forward from every angle
What threshold? I’d think even if I were religious, that I could understand why someone still wouldn’t believe in god
@@shreenybeany1751we can understand why, but that will not make it less incoherent.
@@bigol9223 How is it incoherent? Atheism is incoherent.
@@Кивис-ч3й good point
Brother, where’s the beard?
Old recording, posted now
gone… reduced to atoms…😂
i think it’s old video but either way guy above me explained it already
@nikoloz-to2nm 💀💀😭
YES!!! I DO NEED JESUS TO BE A GOOD PERSON!!! I WAS A BROKEN SOCIOPATH BEFORE JESUS GOT TO ME!!! JESUS JUSTIFIED THE BROKEN AND THE WICKED, HE LOVES THE BROKEN AND THE WICKED!!! THAT'S LITTERALLY WHO HE DIED FOR!!! ONLY BY THE POWER OF JESUS COULD ME AND MY FRIENDS BE GOOD PEOPLE!!! AMEN
Pray for me, i beg u.
is there anything specific I can pray about? what's your name?
I want you so bad
Praying does not work so there's no point asking people to pray for you.. if you need something such as money or other things maybe people can help you with that but don't waste your time praying
@@kevinlipps2817 I've seen the power of prayer many times in my own life. God listens.
@@kevinlipps2817 "Prayer doesn't work" Get away from me, Satan! He's calling for help and you're mocking him for it. Yes, prayer works. I notice that doing prostrations enough times makes my bones crack so I can move easier. I literally got taller. I wasn't even praying for that because it's a dumb thing to ask for.
I wish I could like this twice!
Three times!
@@billhicks9056four times!
@@leonmckendry6081 7 times! God's favorite number.
If an atheist says morals are subjective just ask them if murder will ever be correct ?
Ofc the answer is no meaning there is objective morality.
Now let me debunk atheism
1. Straw Man Fallacy: The challenge misrepresents the religious claim. People who support religion do not argue that non-religious people can't have morals. Instead, they argue about the foundation for objective morality.
2. Objective Morality: For morality to be truly objective, it must be grounded in something beyond human opinion. For believers, this grounding is found in God's unchanging nature.
3. Relativism vs. Objectivism: Without God, moral standards are seen as relative. This means moral principles can change based on societal or individual beliefs. For example, if society once believed slavery was right, then, under moral relativism, it was right at that time.
Let's break down this argument:
1. Misrepresentation of the Religious Claim
The challenge asserts that you don't need religion to have morals and that the lack of empathy, not religion, is the issue. This statement addresses a simplified view of the religious position. Most believers acknowledge that non-believers can act morally. The critical question is not whether non-believers can have morals but rather what grounds these morals. The real issue is about the foundation of objective morality.
2. The Foundation for Objective Morality
Objective morality suggests that some actions are right or wrong independently of human opinions. For instance, the statement "slavery is wrong" is believed to be true regardless of whether any particular society believes it to be true. This objectivity requires a foundation that transcends human subjectivity, which believers identify as God.
Without God:
- Subjectivity: Morals become subjective, dependent on individual or societal beliefs.
- Changeability: What is considered moral can change over time and across cultures.
With God:
- Objectivity: Morals are grounded in God's eternal and unchanging nature.
- Consistency: Moral principles remain constant regardless of human opinions.
3. Relativism vs. Objectivism
If morals are merely a human invention (moral relativism), then nothing is inherently right or wrong. Instead, morality fluctuates with societal norms and individual beliefs. For example:
- Historical Context: If a society once considered slavery acceptable, then under moral relativism, it was "right" at that time.
- Moral Relativism: This view implies that moral judgments are based on cultural consensus rather than any inherent truth.
In contrast, believers argue for moral objectivism:
- Inherent Truth: Actions like slavery are inherently wrong, regardless of societal beliefs.
- Divine Standard: This inherent wrongness is grounded in God's nature, which provides an unchanging standard.
Conclusion
The challenge acknowledges that non-religious individuals can exhibit moral behavior, which is not disputed. The crux of the argument is about the foundation of these morals. Without belief in God, morals become subjective and relative, susceptible to change with societal norms. With belief in God, morals are objective and grounded in a transcendent standard. This leads to the conclusion that the existence of objective morality implies the existence of a moral lawgiver, which believers identify as God.
someone ordered a yapachino
@@leonmckendry6081 what do you think , does god exists ?
Cuz if murder will always be wrong objective morality exist and so god exists
@game_scaling9310 we think ourself to be divnly choosen when there is billions if not trillions of planets out there we are just coping that we are alone one day we will find other life
@@leonmckendry6081 I ordered it and he delivered
@leonmckendry6081 Even if there were a 100% consensus that murder was immoral, it doesn't mean this moral assessment isn't _subjective._ Do you agree?
Great video ☦️
7am gang where you at?
4am gang
@@EditUMedia
sup, 4am here ✋
7:40 for me lol
2:21pm is crazy
Here!!
Thank you for the video Kyle!
atheists stay losing 😂😂
Your faith is dying.
read berserk you will enjoy it just remove the dark fanasty aspect
"you are being good to get a ticket to heaven"
LoL if it was that simple,
Actually we don't believe you can get to heaven by just being "a good person"
Non of us is a "good person"
We need Christ to guide us, we need his Mercy
And we get that grace by faith, not by works
And after you get God's mercy by faith then , you get Joy to worship him
Go to the liturgy , fasting, receive Communion, and become a good person to glorify his will, and hence society becomes better as a result.
With atheism society is becoming worse while you try to make it better.
While I agree with you, wasn't there like a quote from Christ himself saying "without works faith is dead".I mean if our religion was all about faith and not works,then even demons would be saints wouldn't they?
Whoa, REDDIT STYLE??? We are DEBUNKED.
Sometimes I honestly get the sense that Tyson is trolling. I dunno, at least sounds like he is drunk half the time.
@HistoryEnjoyer3010If not on alcohol then on self importance
Seems most atheist arguments either stem from a misunderstanding “I can be an atheist and have morals”…. So your admitting to objective morals then huh? Or from an entire dismissal and refusal to do research, calling the Bible a “fairytale” dismissing all the biblical evidence and prophecies
What are these atheist arguments? Please present one.
@@Theo_Skeptomai literally gave examples that creaky used in the video, reread the comment lol
@Leed9 I was referring to formal arguments. Were you meaning _informal_ arguments?
Not only that but claiming that there is no universal truth is, you guessed it, a universal truth.
@@Theo_Skeptomai Never saw a formal argument. I never will because atheism is literal brain rot.
I love how the first Atheist completely misrepresents the argument. The argument isn't that we shouldn't kill each other because we go to hell. No, it's because humans have dignity, and they have dignity, because they were made in the image of God.
Genesis [9:6] “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image.
Kyle saying his owning a fedora because of his glory days at Reddit is peak Kyle.
Catholics predate orthodox. Yes Apostolic succesion is valid for both. But until 1054, you didnt have a separate Orthodox institution, and they were the ones begging us to not leave the papal bull excommunicating them. Dont let them lie (even tho we still love our orth brothers)
i like your suit
Debunk athiesm: just keep asking why and why why why, its that easy😅
Okay, why should I believe that a man 2000 years ago was born from a virgin, walked on water, and rose the dead when we otherwise consider these things to be impossible?
The first guy basically said "if God real why bad thing happen" 😂
Do you claim this 'God" to be omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, and omni-benevolent?
@Theo_Skeptomai [Tips fedora] You're not interested in what I believe or what I have to say because, more often than not, there is nothing that you will accept and many of you argue for the sake of it.
@0311catholic And you're not interested in learning something new and significant.
@@Theo_Skeptomai like what ? Tell me
@0311catholic Well, answer my straightforward questions and provide the opportunity for me to do so.
I have a question for you, Kyle. I’m curious, since you talk about having a standard for morality. What is your standard for objective morality? Is it the Bible? Some other source? If it is the Bible, how do you know which commandments to follow and which ones to ignore?
I think I can help :)
While human morality is subjective, defined by our whims and selfish desires, God's morality is objective. His will and nature do not change. What is aligned with God's character is good, and thay which is opposed to Him is evil.
We have two ways of following God's moral laws. Firstly, we can intuit it. Scripture tells us that His moral law is engraved in our hearts. That's why we sort of know generally right from wrong. We intrinsically know that people have innate value, and that it is good to tell truth. More than that, we feel guilty when we've done wrong, unless we let our sin numb our conscience.
Secondly, we learn what is right and wrong from scripture. For example, God commands us to love our neighbors as ourselves. We also learn that we are created in His image, and He came down to die for us because He loves us. Therefore, it is right to love others, just as God first loved us.
You seem to have this misconception that Christians pick and choose which laws in the Old Testament to obey. We're supposed to love our neighbor, but we dont have to obey the bits about eating pork and wearing mixed fabrics? There's a distinction between God's eternal moral laws, and the customary laws designed for Israel to distinguish them among the nations. It was the role of the Israelites to bring the Messiah into the world. Once Jesus fulfilled that role, he also fulfilled those laws. They don't apply anymore, their purpose has been fulfilled.
"today religion got debunked" 😂
pray for me brothers.
Кайлу идёт борода. Православные наверное чаще остальных христиан носят бороду. Надо как-то внешне соответствовать, наверное. (Я тоже православный и бородат)
Yeah yeah I know it's not an "argument" but it is funny how a few minutes into this video you immediately start with "I used to be just like you and I was proud of it... until I started looking into it..!" and then spamming a bunch of quick meme images is exactly how flat earther videos go
Also why do you keep spamming the David Hume is-ought slide? It literally points out you can have the goal of minimising pain. If a group agrees on a goal like minimising pain, they can ban stabbing outside of specific circumstances, spend more money on funding research for treatable diseases etc.
If morality is not objective, how is it an issue? In everyday usage you can absolutely ascribe to relative morals and different cultures/humanity can change their morals over time. Do you think it's like an epic own to say "S-so you think murder isn't objectively wrong???". No, I don't but I do think it is wrong and I don't want to do it. So what?
Ironically, I have never seen an argument from you against moral relativism other than that it "feels" or "sounds" wrong or something
why is reducing pain a valuable goal?
@@Pyr0Ben
People and living things with a nervous system in general naturally have an aversion to physical pain and stress (not a choice). Are you asking a sincere question?
@@shamadooee I know we all have an aversion to physical pain. Duh. I'm asking why we should seek the reduction of pain as a valuable goal. I'm asking for a good reason, besides "everyone agrees on it". What pain are we talking about? Physical pain, mental, spiritual? In many ways, pain is necessary and can make us grow. "Reduction of pain" sounds like a virtuous smokescreen for "maximization of pleasure", and anyone who doesn't have their head up their ass can see where that leads.
I dont wan't to cause unnecessary physical pain because all animals and people were created by God and thus deserve respect. We are commanded by scripture to do this: "A righteous man cares for the needs of his animal, but the kindest acts of the wicked are cruel" (Proverbs 12:10). See? I've derived an objective reason why reducing animal cruelty is good from scripture and reason.
My argument against moral relativism isn't that it feels wrong. Its that its completely subjective, and ultimately appeals to our own selfish sinful desires before any real standard of goodness.
@@Pyr0Ben The examples I gave above were putting in place laws to reduce violence and funding research on curing diseases. How are either of these just "maximising pleasure"? What would you gain from instead letting violence and disease run rampant? Is there a lesson in that? Finding out that they're bad?
> I'm asking for a good reason, besides "everyone agrees on it"
Define "good". Why should I care if it is good or not if it aligns with everyone's goals?
> why we should seek the reduction of pain as a valuable goal.
Because human beings place value on staying alive and not being in pain. Duh indeed
Are you proposing that if morals are subjective, then we should not care about minimising pain? What is your logical basis for making that jump?
> I dont wan't to cause unnecessary physical pain because all animals and people were created by God and thus deserve respect. We are commanded by scripture to do this
What if you were instead commanded by God to kill your child? Would that be moral?
> My argument against moral relativism isn't that it feels wrong. Its that its completely subjective
Moral relativism =/= subjectivism. Just google the difference. Also there is no argument for either of the world views here, just what you say below which feels very much like an "it feels wrong" argument
> Its that its completely subjective, and ultimately appeals to our own selfish sinful desires
Explain how reducing disease or violence is "sinful"
@@Pyr0BenI think I’ve seen you before. Do you watch PhrogPollen?
There’s no reason objective morality exists even if god does exist. It seems you’ve never considered that…
It’s still just god’s opinion on what’s wrong which could realistically change any second if he desired
@@theconservativeparty69God is unchanging
@@Pyr0Benwhy are Christians not circumcised?
@@KidMoe7735because we’re not Jews
Kyle dropping a new video. 🗿
Give thanks to the Lord for He is good☦
Kyle, I watched your video on how to make reading fun, and I am applying your tips to my reading on Marcus Aurelius (I am ignoring the pagan nonsense and highlighting the really good life tips). And I have got to say, it is not only fun, but extremely beneficial. You inspire me to live a simple, nice, joyful, orthodox Christian, minimalist life. I will definitely be studying books much more with your tips. I just studied five pages of Marcus Aurelius. You are amazing! God bless you ☦️❤️🙏
im roman catholic and i love you orthodox brothers, keep up the faith on the apostolic churches
Doing the best for the species is actually a misconception. So is atheistic nihilism. Evolution brings about very strong morals
Small issue with Tyson is he says religion is to cope for there being the universe form nothing then goes off and supports the multiverse
Christ is King☦️
Praise Him.
🗣️babe, new Kyle vid just dropped🔥🔥
Silverman completely making things up. At least he admitted atheist pick and choose morality.
So sorry for all these people that are lost and delusional, hope you all find the truth one day!😊
@@andrewchristian6466God
Great video. That 45000 denominations has been debunked. There’s like 8 Protestant denominations. That number 45k is just because of the name of the churches
Orthodox rant was funny but literally what orthodox? Throwing smoke on Catholics was silly, at least we have a consistent view. Why push people from joining an apostolic church?
1:51 it doesn't take genius to know the simple factor of what's good and bad, which shows just how clever your beliefs are, which is not much 😜😝💩
1:51 simple rashanalty is how to know what is good and what is bad. Just stop trying to think that science is a belief system, that's religion or should I say make believe 🤔
I'm a moral relativist and I would argue that religious morality is just as subjective as an atheist's morality even if a religious person claims that their morality is objective. One example of this that comes to mind is homosexuality. Many Christians view homosexuality as sinful and immoral, but I've never understood why it matters so long as all parties in a sexual relationship are consenting and no one is being hurt. In my experience, Christians don't really seem to be able to give me an answer as to why it's sinful that doesn't essentially boil down to "because the bible says so". This makes me wonder, if Christian morality comes down from God himself, does God say something is moral because it is moral or is it moral because God says so? If the latter is true, God could say that rape and murder are good and it would be so. Another thing to consider in this case in whether what God says is moral is any less subjective than our own opinions on morality simply because he's an all-powerful being. If the former is true, then Christians should be able to give an answer as to why homosexuality is wrong independently of the bible or God.
The answer is simply that from a naturalist perspective homosexuality destroys the order of reproduction and maturing of the species also people can interpret objective thing differently that is why people disagree on morality even in the church
I have a friend who was sexually assaulted by homosexuals. I also have a friend who overcame homosexuality.
Yes Niel, just because you can't explain it doesn't mean it isn't real. Use your own logic.
There’s more to it though, you need proper evidence
@@shreenybeany1751 We have the proper evidence. It's called the Holy Bible.
Jesus will always love and accept you, just accept that you're saved by faith in God's grace through the death and resurrection of Jesus.💖
Are you asserting I can simply _choose_ to believe the resurrection of Jesus is factual?
@@Theo_Skeptomai No, we all have reasons why we believe in God and the resurrection. I'm simply recommending that belief as a believer, doing the work God has commanded me to do.
@sup7530 I am currently not convinced that this Jesus is a reality nor that he was ever a historical person. Therefore, I will continue to suspend any acknowledgment as to the reality of this Jesus until sufficient credible evidence is presented.
Do you believe that I am _rationally justified_ in my position?
@@Theo_Skeptomai Jesus is literally one of the most well documented figures of antiquity so I don't know where you get the claim that He apparently didn't exist. I do not believe that you are rationally justified. Watch Testify Apologetics and there is also the fact that Josephus and Tacitus mention Jesus. So I don't know how you would claim that He didn't exist when He is literally one of the most well documented figures of antiquity.
XD you failed to refute anything XD
How come God doesnt cheer me on when im having explosive diarrhea? Religion debunked.
its crazy how somehow god let the most popular biblical translation be wrong and allowed protestant countries to be so successful in comparison to Orthodox countries. Im sure you somehow get to decide who is Christian and who is not because you believe doing your rituals in your church pleases God. good luck with that
2/10 ragebait
How do you know in what thought the laws of logic existed before human thoughts existed?
Saying catholicism caused protestantism is like saying orthodoxy caused islam... when you say "look at history" you just mean, look at history through the lens that is favorable to orthodoxy
Early Church Fathers' commentary on "I tell you that you are Peter and upon this rock, I will build My Church." Rock is a confession of Peter's faith, not Peter himself. Get out of the Trad Catholic stuff and become Eastern Orthodox. You should watch Bottom of the Rabbit Hole. He has a video talking about why he chose Holy Orthodoxy over Roman Catholicism.
@@Christisrisen37 It is both, the faith and Peter himself, it is his personal name that is changed is not "just" a declaration of his faith, if Saint John Chrysostom points to the fact that it's the faith, that doesn't take away the other aspect, they are not contrary to each other. No other person gets that name, only him.
@@AprendeMovimiento The reason as to why he got that name is because he also later denied Jesus which none of the other Apostles did.
@@Christisrisen37 this surely convices me to deny Peter as the Rock upon which Christ was gonna build his Church...
the shorter the beard the more papist you are or something, I am not into theology
1:51 Kyle science has nothing to do with that nor does make believe religion
Great video as always Kyle, you make my days better brother
Watching this rather than my catechism book 😳
Get to reading. I'm trying to become a Catechumen.
I miss Kyle's OG vids
Thoughts on alex o'conner the cosmic skeptic?
Isn’t argument from authority a logical fallacy which is the basis of Christianity? I’m a Christian btw but just curious on your response
It's not a fallacy to cite authorities or attestations, its only a fallacy when you're arguing on a worldview level or are in 2 different paradigms and you're saying that an authority's testimony is proving a position.
"My position is true because my doctor says so" vs "my position is true because of X and Y reasons and here's a list of respected people who have also come to the same conclusion based on these reasons". It's helpful at a rhetorical level.
The reason you can just say "it's true cause God says so" with Christians is because they're already in the same paradigm and have accepted that authority as true and infallible.
Best Kyle video so far. please pray for atheists. ☦
I miss the beard 🥺
Maybe this was recorded pre beard?
@@timefazer-fv9bwmaybe😂 God bless ;)
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Hey Kyle I recently saw this video on my feed that’s gotten quite a bit of attention in a short amount of time. It’s by a guy named Distinguo. The title is “ONE Argument DESTROYS Eastern Orthodox HERESY”
he did
your best video yet! Good job brother
1:22 virtue is something you guys don't have 😤
0:24 Kyle you really don't know shit 😂
1:22 oh and look it's the apple guy again 👍
Needgod net responded to ur video, you should get on a live debate!
The Crucible? They should debate on there.
when i was an atheist i made fun of people with hats like that.
Please Do a video on dispensationalism
W debunk Kyle as always❤️🩹☦️
What happened to the beard
What’s the original video of the orthodox Christian debate on the second half?
These atheists' arguments are so bad lol
What would be an example of an atheist argument? Please present one.
@@Theo_Skeptomai You're the atheist here. You tell us. Or for your sake, I'll say it.
"If God real, why bad thing happen?"
Bad things happen to people because humanity fell into sin and because of that sin, the world is now subject to disease and death. Not only is it subject to disease and death but there would also be the terrible things people do to each other. This actually PROVES the existence of God because it shows that humanity would be doing something contrary to what God said which is what evil is, anything contrary to God's law, but the reason as to why bad things happen is because God would not allow any evil in his works unless He could bring goodness even out of evil. So yes, God is real and bad things happen, yes, but God delivers them.
Psalm 34:18 - The LORD is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit.
@@Christisrisen37 Sorry. That is not an argument. Do you actually know what a formal argument is?
@@Theo_Skeptomai Talking about the ones in the video.
I am not convinced any god to be a reality for I have never encountered any credible evidence suggesting such a reality. So, until I do encounter sufficient credible evidence that such a reality exists, I will continue to suspend any acknowledgment concerning the truth of _your_ claim that one does.
THAT represents the entirety of my position of atheism. Instead of fearing this rational position and disparaging those that hold to it, take the time and effort to understand the position.
What kind of evidence are you going by? Because you do realize that not everything is proven in the same way, right?
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@MASONMILLSGAMING-hm9qt _Credible_ evidence - that which can be verified for verified for validity, accuracy, and authenticity.
Are you aware of any such credible evidence that demonstrates the reality of a god? Yes or no.
@@Theo_Skeptomai I'm still learning about the Credibility of the Bible, but if I'm being honest, at this point, that I'm aware of, no.
However, I still have other reasons to believe in God, like the uncaused first cause. So, science tells that everything has a cause, so think of it as dominoes which obviously you need another domino to knock over, so if everything needed a cause, this chain of dominoes would literally have no beginning, there's no start because there's always another domino before it. And no, the Universe can't be the uncaused first cause, that's literally impossible because the universe would have to be timeless... which is clearly isn't because time exists. Also, I know about Quantum Fluctuations but that's not likely either because that's energy in a vacuum causing matter to appear for some time, but vacuums and energy don't spawn out of nowhere, and vacuums can't be timeless, because the entire universe is a vacuum, and the universe has time. By the way, I'm pretty sure my conclusion isn't comitting the God of the Gaps Fallacy, I've used our scientific understanding to narrow down the uncaused first cause to a Timeless, Uncaused Being which has the ability to create, that's literally the definition of God, and is impossible in the realm of science because it falls under time.
Also by the way, one question for you, but whats the point of arguing for atheism? Even if atheism is true, we are all gonna die anyway and death on that worldview is just... nothingness, and nothing will be remembered. Then, one day the universe will collapse, and everything will die, and everything humanity has ever done just got rendered worthless and meaningless, whether it was every argument for or against religion, its all gone, and nobody won. Okay, and I want you to make sure that I'm not saying this to try to convert you into Christianity, but why be on atheism where its guaranteed no win?
7:25 So a person who builds their house on sand and not on stone, waiting for it yo be flooded?
Bruh you're mostly right but re-examine the science; evolution definitely has some firm backing, and is not incompatible with Christianity.
What is the average rate of evolution per decade?
Hopefully this is prerecorded because I need manly Kyle not baby Kyle
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