I’ve been lifting for 24 years and using racks like this for the last 10 and I’ve never personally experienced this issue. I think a key reason why is I make sure I’m centered when I lift off my j cups. And I make sure I’m centered when I rerack. I like taller j cups with UHWM like rogue 1” j cups, reps come out a little further (great for squats worse for bench) and then my personal favorite is the ghost roller for being tall and thin and able to easily center. For a premium option with guaranteed lock in I recommend oak club mfg James j cup. The mag pin lock in the back makes sure the j cups don’t move and can take a beating due to the overbuilt UHWM plastic coating Lastly a mirror is super helpful in a garage gym setup because It really comes down to technique and being able to see yourself and your bar is going to be key to making sure you have proper form and clearance.
Flipping the jcups so that the sidewall of the jcups faces inwards like you did in the video gives a little bit more for clearance during walk out too. Thanks for the solid advice as always brother!
Main issue is not the walkout but mainly the squat itself as if you are too far from one side, you will be hitting the safeties / straps and that can throw you off on your squat and make you fail. Besides walking out perfectly, you need to position yourself evenly in the center of the rack. This is the reason why I use a thicker collar bar for squats.
I plan to buy a new rack someday (considering buying Rogue) and was thinking about this recently because of a viewer comment I read in your previous video complaining about this issue. So glad you made a video on it. Great vid, Brandon.
Solid options. Been rocked a few times on walk out. And that’s not on 49” wide racks. Wish I had a Texas power bar available in Australian to compensate for my sloppy technique..
Yeah I also like something such as an aperture engineering 3-D printed weight horn sleeve because they’re almost weightless and it spaces the bar out and make it more like a Texas power bar
This is why I love my Titan T-3 rack. While admittedly at first I had the “It’s not a 3x3 rack like all the cool kids have” syndrome, I don’t care as with a 2x3 rack the safety squat bar doesn’t ride up on the bends. It’s solid, slimmer, and works. If you don’t need or use all these 3x3 cumbersome attachments where a 3x3 is the better option , a 2x3 11 gauge rack is great.
As you mentioned, the 3D printed stuff is a pretty good option. I picked up a pair for my deadlifts (currently used as a visual warning to avoid hitting my head on the bar when stored on rack) and they are practically weightless. I'm sure you can get them in varying widths and then one can purchase whatever bar they want without the worry of banging uprights. Get your (cake) comp collars and eat it too! Btw, the new ink on leg looks good man!
Yeah man, bashing the uprights drives me mad! I've started putting Mirafit metal collars (the cheaper ones) on BEFORE the plates. I'm still focusing on the walkout though. Great vid.
I really enjoy my Rogue Monster Rack and 20KG power bar but OMG is hitting the uprights at your working heavy set frustrating which never happened with my R. 45lb Power Bar. I eventually just added a pair of R. USA Aluminum Collars to the inside as well. The pair only adds ½ a pound which I’m hard press to feel but adds 1½ inches to each side and no more annoying hitting the rack under load. Inches do matter gents lol
I have that uncontrolled 'first step down pat! 47" rack, not thin collars, and I still clip the uprights (sometimes). My excuse is a Longhorn bar, not always centering it, not paying enough attention, and anything over 2 plates is REALLY heavy. I'm going to try that first step directly back idea. Thanks!
@@BasementBrandon I purchased some rollers for that very reason ... then realized the death sentence part. Dropped the rollers to bench height, but lately ... lift-off really sucks with no spotter, a nagging shoulder, and no triceps. Considering a pair of monolifts.
What’s the depth of this particular rack you are squatting in? I am buying a Rogue power rack and for a month been gonna back and forth between the 3 and the 4. I am completely undecided
Regarding the milestone lifts - I actually prefer to do them the 1st time with smaller plates. Putting on the "new" 45 for the 1st time is a bit of a mental block for me, so I'll load 25/10/10 instead. I still have room because my next milestone to reach is only 405 on squats.
Hi Brandon. I would really appreciate your help on choosing the right size for my Stoic knee sleeves. My knee is 37cm, so according to the size chart I should get a medium (36.5-39 cm). But I am a bit worried it will be loose as the small size is 33.5-36 cm. Should I go for medium or small? I am a beginner, so I am gaining muscle faster. This would be my first knee sleeves, so I don’t want it to be too tight. Thanks in advance.
Most people who compete tend to size down. If it's your first sleeve you should be fine with the size chart size. They're a bit stretchy regardless so it just depends on your preference for fit.
I had a sloppy walkout untill I clipped the upright with 220kg on it. I got really knocked off balance. While not the heaviest weight it's not exactly light. It definitely scared me enough to realize I needed to fix it before I actually had an accident. Now I'm not going over 180kg because it's really not worth it anymore.
You have to change your set up a lot to use the mono arms. Much like a real mono. If you’re used to walking out your whole unrack technique won’t work on mono arms
I do have squat bars and agree they can eliminate the issue. The problem there is if you compete in a federation that uses a power bar (like USAPL or Powerlifting America), you likely don't want to spend all your training with a 32mm+ bar.
@@BasementBrandon I agree, if you're competing such as yourself , then you need the smaller 29mm bar for just that reason . For those who don't compete I would recommend the 32mm squat bar before buying a new power bar. I don't even use a power bar half as much anymore and wish I had saved the $$$
Good point. They have plate spacers but those add almost 4" per side. They do sell foam discs for "sled" spacers, which I actually use on my weight horns on the rack shown, but I'm not sure if I'd use those the purpose shown in this video.
I use the Donnie Thompson plate spacers from Abmat. It is overkill, even DT says so, but I got them on sale and they solve this exact issue. I love them personally, but maybe they aren't for everyone. It's a $70 chunk of metal that you could solve the same problem with about $10 worth of PVC from Home Depot, but I use the spacers every time I squat.
Just clean up the walk out and know that you will hit the uprights from time to time. I’ve hit them with 600 pounds plus. It sucks but you can rerack or push through it. No need for any of this stuff.
I’ve been lifting for 24 years and using racks like this for the last 10 and I’ve never personally experienced this issue. I think a key reason why is I make sure I’m centered when I lift off my j cups. And I make sure I’m centered when I rerack. I like taller j cups with UHWM like rogue 1” j cups, reps come out a little further (great for squats worse for bench) and then my personal favorite is the ghost roller for being tall and thin and able to easily center.
For a premium option with guaranteed lock in I recommend oak club mfg James j cup. The mag pin lock in the back makes sure the j cups don’t move and can take a beating due to the overbuilt UHWM plastic coating
Lastly a mirror is super helpful in a garage gym setup because It really comes down to technique and being able to see yourself and your bar is going to be key to making sure you have proper form and clearance.
Appreciate the feedback
Flipping the jcups so that the sidewall of the jcups faces inwards like you did in the video gives a little bit more for clearance during walk out too. Thanks for the solid advice as always brother!
Yep. That gives an extra half inch or so. I'm amazed how many people haven't figured this out.
Good call!
Main issue is not the walkout but mainly the squat itself as if you are too far from one side, you will be hitting the safeties / straps and that can throw you off on your squat and make you fail. Besides walking out perfectly, you need to position yourself evenly in the center of the rack. This is the reason why I use a thicker collar bar for squats.
I don’t think I’ve ever hit the safeties 😅🤞🤞
@@BasementBrandon only in a gym that doesn't weigh/bolt the racks down with a mirror so you're setting up off kilter
I plan to buy a new rack someday (considering buying Rogue) and was thinking about this recently because of a viewer comment I read in your previous video complaining about this issue. So glad you made a video on it. Great vid, Brandon.
one of the downsides of a 49" rack, but it can be mitigated pretty easily.
I love my monolifts for this very reason. I appreciate the tips on the buffers though, I can see myself using them for Barbell Rows !
When I had monos I felt it still put me really close to the rack and I'd have to walk it back still anyways 😭
Solid options. Been rocked a few times on walk out. And that’s not on 49” wide racks. Wish I had a Texas power bar available in Australian to compensate for my sloppy technique..
You Aussie's are known for your sloppiness 🤪
@@BasementBrandon can’t argue facts.
Yeah I also like something such as an aperture engineering 3-D printed weight horn sleeve because they’re almost weightless and it spaces the bar out and make it more like a Texas power bar
I like this suggestion a lot carp, would use tip if I was using a comp bar with thin collars for sure
@@aptn22 yeah it even works better with something like the Kabuki Kadillac or other multi grip bars with like 1/4 inch sleeves
Yep, exactly what I was mentioning!
@@BasementBrandonoh yeah watched it again and heard you say 3d printed at the end 😂
This is why I love my Titan T-3 rack. While admittedly at first I had the “It’s not a 3x3 rack like all the cool kids have” syndrome, I don’t care as with a 2x3 rack the safety squat bar doesn’t ride up on the bends. It’s solid, slimmer, and works. If you don’t need or use all these 3x3 cumbersome attachments where a 3x3 is the better option , a 2x3 11 gauge rack is great.
I think if you don't care about fancy attachments as much a 2x3 rack is a great way to go.
As you mentioned, the 3D printed stuff is a pretty good option. I picked up a pair for my deadlifts (currently used as a visual warning to avoid hitting my head on the bar when stored on rack) and they are practically weightless. I'm sure you can get them in varying widths and then one can purchase whatever bar they want without the worry of banging uprights. Get your (cake) comp collars and eat it too! Btw, the new ink on leg looks good man!
Also a cheap way to make a homemade deadlift bar!
Thanks for the informative tips!
Thanks for taking a look!
Quite stoic.....very demure
#dadjokes
Yeah man, bashing the uprights drives me mad!
I've started putting Mirafit metal collars (the cheaper ones) on BEFORE the plates.
I'm still focusing on the walkout though. Great vid.
I tried to convince Eleiko to come out with some that were the same weight as some of the chip plates but they didn't pursue it much.
Love the plate/collar trick. I used to do this all the time training at a commercial gym with the 20 kg bars
Sometimes we need a lil cushion :)
Thank You! Will try the collar tip tomorrow.
Hope it helps.
I really enjoy my Rogue Monster Rack and 20KG power bar but OMG is hitting the uprights at your working heavy set frustrating which never happened with my R. 45lb Power Bar.
I eventually just added a pair of R. USA Aluminum Collars to the inside as well. The pair only adds ½ a pound which I’m hard press to feel but adds 1½ inches to each side and no more annoying hitting the rack under load.
Inches do matter gents lol
Preach!
I have that uncontrolled 'first step down pat!
47" rack, not thin collars, and I still clip the uprights (sometimes). My excuse is a Longhorn bar, not always centering it, not paying enough attention, and anything over 2 plates is REALLY heavy.
I'm going to try that first step directly back idea. Thanks!
This is one of the reasons I like roller cups, to center the bar every time. However with a buffalo bar it would be a death sentence 😅
@@BasementBrandon I purchased some rollers for that very reason ... then realized the death sentence part. Dropped the rollers to bench height, but lately ... lift-off really sucks with no spotter, a nagging shoulder, and no triceps. Considering a pair of monolifts.
Man can't believe this guy still talking about Powerlifting. Used to watch him 12 years ago, Campbell Fitness lol
not dead yet.
What’s the depth of this particular rack you are squatting in? I am buying a Rogue power rack and for a month been gonna back and forth between the 3 and the 4. I am completely undecided
30". I find it's plenty deep enough for training
29mm Texas power bar is great for squatting. Collar is right between OPB and Original TPB.
Def easier than these thin comp collars!
Regarding the milestone lifts - I actually prefer to do them the 1st time with smaller plates. Putting on the "new" 45 for the 1st time is a bit of a mental block for me, so I'll load 25/10/10 instead. I still have room because my next milestone to reach is only 405 on squats.
I get what you're saying, my state of mind would be worse there b/c I'd be like "oh the more plates the more whip" 🤪
I love hitting the rack, extra ab work
Fuck that rack!
this was my excuse to buy the rogue squat bar.
I use that excuse too :)
I never have the issue. Just realized that I'm using Rogue squat bar, sleeve-to-sleeve distance is 8" more than regular OPB.
Squat bars def solve this problem!
Of course, if you have a set of 35s you could make your first plate be a 10 and a 35, thus keeping the 45 plate math consistent.
#35life
Now you're speaking my language.
It’s not just the walk out though. I’ve had plates rub against the spotters. More specifically, one little bolt on the Rogue safety straps.
Interesting, I've never had an issue with the spotters. maybe you're off center?
@@BasementBrandon definitely a possibility. I wish my mono’s had rollers.
@@BrimhallBarbellClub Maybe the mutant metal snap back rollers are in your future :)
@@BasementBrandon so expensive and sold out currently. I need a money tree. 😀
Brandon the scientist!!
much science, such wow. 🤯
Hi Brandon. I would really appreciate your help on choosing the right size for my Stoic knee sleeves. My knee is 37cm, so according to the size chart I should get a medium (36.5-39 cm). But I am a bit worried it will be loose as the small size is 33.5-36 cm. Should I go for medium or small? I am a beginner, so I am gaining muscle faster. This would be my first knee sleeves, so I don’t want it to be too tight. Thanks in advance.
Most people who compete tend to size down. If it's your first sleeve you should be fine with the size chart size. They're a bit stretchy regardless so it just depends on your preference for fit.
@@BasementBrandon Thank you so much. Does your knee joint circumference change as you get stronger/muscular?
@@shiropadipto701 The joint shouldn't unless you put on extreme amounts of weight. You may find your quads/calves grow however.
@@BasementBrandon Thanks man. Keep up the good work
The lack of jokes was upsetting, I had to walk out.
Hope it wasn't sloppy
I had a sloppy walkout untill I clipped the upright with 220kg on it. I got really knocked off balance. While not the heaviest weight it's not exactly light. It definitely scared me enough to realize I needed to fix it before I actually had an accident. Now I'm not going over 180kg because it's really not worth it anymore.
Can def make you rethink life lol
I’m looking into monolift arm attachments.
I'm not a big fan there as I find I still have to walk the bar in and out with them. They prob have their best use case for bench IMO.
@@BasementBrandon the walkout is smaler
@@BasementBrandon that’s good to know
You have to change your set up a lot to use the mono arms. Much like a real mono. If you’re used to walking out your whole unrack technique won’t work on mono arms
@@Dirtkid98505 That may be true but I do not notice this as much and propqbly got just used to it.
Just buy squat bar, problem solved.
I do have squat bars and agree they can eliminate the issue. The problem there is if you compete in a federation that uses a power bar (like USAPL or Powerlifting America), you likely don't want to spend all your training with a 32mm+ bar.
@@BasementBrandon I agree, if you're competing such as yourself , then you need the smaller 29mm bar for just that reason .
For those who don't compete I would recommend the 32mm squat bar before buying a new power bar. I don't even use a power bar half as much anymore and wish I had saved the $$$
Spooky szn with that thumbnail 😂
👻
Ive never had to worry about extra inches 😂😂😂
hey now!
Love my Hansu, but it makes me nervous squatting heavy with it because zero room for error.
💯 I usually will not use a comp bar for heavy squats for that reason.
My snarky summary of your video: get good, son!
Agreed!
All this talking about racks got me sweatin
Can shift to shafts if you prefer.
The BBC shirt💀
Powerbuilt for BBC
You're not a fan of the British Broadcasting Corporation?
Basement Barbell Club of course... 😇
I think abmat makes a foam collar for this exact purpose
Good point. They have plate spacers but those add almost 4" per side. They do sell foam discs for "sled" spacers, which I actually use on my weight horns on the rack shown, but I'm not sure if I'd use those the purpose shown in this video.
I use the Donnie Thompson plate spacers from Abmat. It is overkill, even DT says so, but I got them on sale and they solve this exact issue. I love them personally, but maybe they aren't for everyone. It's a $70 chunk of metal that you could solve the same problem with about $10 worth of PVC from Home Depot, but I use the spacers every time I squat.
@@1rwlemke Yeah bit too much width for me, but very handy if you want to use bands!
Plastic lock-jaw collars weigh, like, 40 grams or something. It's not a problem to just add them in.
It can be annoying since they're thick and you'd need 2 pairs of them.
Don’t you worry about us, we don’t lift much weight 😂
😅
Monolift attachments FTW.
Not a fan personally. They don't seem to emulate a mono well enough to me.
My problem isn't the walkout, it's the reracking
Hitting them when putting it back?
Walk out game strong.
westside walk it out
Why are you calling me out!
I blame myself.
How about not buying 49" racks in the first place? There are plenty of good options at better widths.
That's an option sure, but there are a lot of pros to owning a rogue rack as well.
Hockey puck spacer with a hole from
a hole saw
Nice!
Just clean up the walk out and know that you will hit the uprights from time to time. I’ve hit them with 600 pounds plus. It sucks but you can rerack or push through it. No need for any of this stuff.
I mean I said that in the video lol.
That first shirt when demonstrating the walkouts 😂 Excuse me, Sir. No need to flex 😅
Under promise, over deliver.
If it’s a big issue for people the monolidt j cups solve this issue
Wasn't a fan of monos personally
@@BasementBrandon the first ones me either but the revised ones I find are much better, I really like them for benching with no lift off
@@Grumpyoldman666 Yeah I def can see them being more helpful on bench!
Get monolift
Still need to walk it out :(
@@BasementBrandon not on my yoke
Weird Comment of Rogue been the main culprit when Rogue is the standard.
Standard of what? Most other racks are not 49”. In fact most of rogues initial offerings when they came out were 2x3 tubes that were 47” wide. 😅
@@BasementBrandonyeah, I’ve never understood why they didn’t keep the outside width 47” when switching to 3x3. Would have been so much easier!
@@fwiffo42American logic, bigger is better! 😝
@@fwiffo42 It's tradeoff. Narrower racks, like REP ones with 47" outside width, have problems with cambered bars like Kadillac bar.