The two vulcan teamates at the back of the pack looking at their commander with such judgement! They didn't even want to be here and their boss's prideful tantrum wasn't doing him any favors. I wonder who will be the first to forward a report to their higher ups.
I just noticed that Quark's signature on the baseball has Ferengi ears drawn on the sides of the Q. That's both cute and (considering the ears of a Ferengi are an erogenous zone) a little dirty.
That's what that is. I don't suppose anyone else drew their er,... ahem, acoutremon on their signature. Maybe I should start signing my name that way. No one else does. At least, I'm pretty sure.
Honestly the ds9 crew roasting solok to the point of irritation is genuinely brilliant. And i find it represents siskos lesson that its not about winning but enjoying the game. In the actual game soloks team won but the real victory was the ds9 crew who showed that soloks vulcan arrogance wasnt going to affect them
Funny rumor I heard is that Rom was the only actor there that actually played baseball, and that he had to deliberately play bad to make it look convincing.
that happens a lot in tv and movies in the fast and the furious tokio drift the american car is driven by the actual drift king the guy that made drifting a thing and he had to take so many takes to make himself look like an amature.
Wouldent surprise me when they first started makeing “kug fu” movies they ended up throw out most of what they shot the pro marshal artists they had come in movies to fast they blurred on film
Heck, sometimes it even happens with stunt training. The Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul fight had to be slowed down so people wouldn't assume the footage was being altered. Reality is unrealistic, I guess.
Some viewers wonder what the Deep Space Nine writers had against Vulcan's. I don't agree but then also I can only remember three Vulcans appearing... One was an arms dealer for the maquis, this one was an asshole and the third was an unhinged serial killer...
It was probably because Vulcans where not important to the overall story but they wanted to make sure that that they still played apart in the star trek universe in DS9 and the easy way to do that was have them be the wrench in the engine for the occasional episode. Basically remind the audience there still around doing there part in the galaxy, for better or worse.
It's really weird that this Vulcan is trying to be so demeaning to Sisko. Sisko has basically been at the front lines since the start, DS9 was the first battle of the war, he went on to be appointed adjutant to Admiral Ross and helped lead the fleet to take back the wormhole entrance, Sisko has been one of the most important people in the war, and this dipshit wants to puff out his chest and insult him for how cushy he's had it? Sisko's response should have been to laugh in his face.
They have a long history of being rivals. I have no doubt in a stressful situation the two would be professional enough to put aside their differences for their crews. But in a peaceful scenario behind the lines? I could see the two being at eachothers throats.
The thing to remember about Vulcans is that they aren't *naturally* emotionless, rational beings. Thats what they pretend. Vulcans are *innately* super emotional, super volatile. Moreso than humans. Culturally they suppress it. So this particular vulcan *is* an asshole. He does have an illogical vendetta against Sisko. he is bigoted, unpleasant, and a snob. He's trying to make himself appear to be a bastion of logic and rationality. But its only ever learned behavior. Vulcan's feel just like every species. They just don't express it. And those feelings include malice, prejudice, and viciousness. Just like every species.
@@benlowe1701 I have yet to see a Vulcan in Starfleet that hasn't eventually been emotionally compromised by their interactions with humans. Doesn't always come out pretty.
@@sabriam Its likely that there conflicting schools of thought even among the mainstream Vulcans as to the extent that Vulcans are compromised. Its never been entirely clear if Vulcans emotional suppression was actually good for them or not, or if it's just the result of generational trauma from when they nearly wiped themselves out in war. I'd go so far as to say that part of Reunification with Romulus will be the gradual acceptance of their emotions. More of a "Yes, I'm feeling angry now, and as a Vulcan I shall suppress it and behave logically." Than just a flat denial of their anger that some Vulcans seem unable to even process or deal with, much less suppress. Logic in spite of emotion, over emotion, rather than instead of. But maybe that's because I'm human and and the idea of repressing all emotion seems exceptionally unhealthy...
Well, to be honest: Soval was just in line with the vulkans of that time... not yet accustomed to Surak`s teachings , but Solok is just oozing arrogance.
Yet Sisko says not a word about it. Even though he hardly misses a chance to bring up racism from 400 years ago on his own planet. Kind of a double standard.
@@TommygunNG He literally only brought it up in one episode, "Badda Bing Badda Bang". And Kasidy told him he was wrong for thinking that about Vic Fontaine's holosuite program.
Rom AKA, Max Grodénchik (naturally right-handed) played left-handed, as it was the only way he could convincingly play baseball poorly. He sold it well. 🤣
Anyone notice how Starfleet's whole thing is discovering new life, civilizations, peace, acceptance etc but a lot of the main cast of the shows frequently mock, tease and annoy Vulcans because they choose to not experience emotion?
I feel sorry for humanity. Are we to believe that as large a station as DS9 was, with Starfleet personnel, they couldn't find 9 people who knew about baseball, and had to resort to using people like Rom?
early in DS9 they made it clear that baseball was almost extinct as a sport for humans. By the mid 21st century, there was only a few hundred people at the World Series.
@@detectivefoxley9912 Well, going by Star Trek's timeline, the early 21 century was just coming out of one world war and quickly hit another, so baseball was pretty down on the lists of priorities. Plus, the simple fact is that the passage of time means a lot of stuff as fallen out of use. Chariot racing was extremely popular for the Romans, not so much for the Middle Ages.
How is this guy not evaluated by the Vulcan council or something? Not only is he racist and mans a Vulcan only crew because he thinks Vulcans are superior to humans but he is also clearly highly emotional, gloating and taking enjoyment from demeaning Sisko and getting irritated when he "lost". Not only are these emotions but they are also signs of sadism, a trait inherent to Vulcans who can't control their emotions.
The only part that bothers me is the baseball is signed in all English. When it should have been in each persons native language. Small detail forgotten.
@@scottstewart3884 yeah, you could note the fact that the nonhumans don’t have fancy calligraphy for their signatures, too. Probably what with it being a human custom
I wonder where that ball is. That would be a great addition to some kind of Trek museum. There's some kind of Trek resort in Las Vegas. Or there used to be. If it's still there. Maybe Avery Brooks has it. Anyone know?
The Vulcan in this are the personification of the Kids and Adult children on the internet. You're just having a good time, playing with mates and enjoying life, but the scream and cry because you don't validate them, and it's such a good feeling knowing that there life is so shit they have to take to the internet and hide away lmao.
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The two vulcan teamates at the back of the pack looking at their commander with such judgement!
They didn't even want to be here and their boss's prideful tantrum wasn't doing him any favors. I wonder who will be the first to forward a report to their higher ups.
I just noticed that Quark's signature on the baseball has Ferengi ears drawn on the sides of the Q. That's both cute and (considering the ears of a Ferengi are an erogenous zone) a little dirty.
Very fitting for Quark, then.
That's what that is. I don't suppose anyone else drew their er,... ahem, acoutremon on their signature. Maybe I should start signing my name that way. No one else does. At least, I'm pretty sure.
Honestly the ds9 crew roasting solok to the point of irritation is genuinely brilliant. And i find it represents siskos lesson that its not about winning but enjoying the game. In the actual game soloks team won but the real victory was the ds9 crew who showed that soloks vulcan arrogance wasnt going to affect them
I dont think vulcans can comprehend for one second how emotional, romantic, and heart straining baseball is. This is why Sisko wins.
Funny rumor I heard is that Rom was the only actor there that actually played baseball, and that he had to deliberately play bad to make it look convincing.
Yeah, Max Grodenchik was almost a professional baseballer. He played left-handed because otherwise he was um ... playing too well.
that happens a lot in tv and movies in the fast and the furious tokio drift the american car is driven by the actual drift king the guy that made drifting a thing and he had to take so many takes to make himself look like an amature.
Wouldent surprise me when they first started makeing “kug fu” movies they ended up throw out most of what they shot the pro marshal artists they had come in movies to fast they blurred on film
Heck, sometimes it even happens with stunt training. The Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul fight had to be slowed down so people wouldn't assume the footage was being altered. Reality is unrealistic, I guess.
I love the way Odo grins when he ejects Solok
Uh Oh, Solok touched The Umpire=OUTTA THERE 🤣.
Imagine the outtakes and told to laugh over 10 times
I work as a background actor, and yes, that does get annoying 🤣🤣
I like how he quickly takes his hand back wheb he realises, because ofc he knows the rules immaculately too.
And that satisfied little smirk Odo gives him right before kicking him out of the game.
Some viewers wonder what the Deep Space Nine writers had against Vulcan's. I don't agree but then also I can only remember three Vulcans appearing... One was an arms dealer for the maquis, this one was an asshole and the third was an unhinged serial killer...
It was probably because Vulcans where not important to the overall story but they wanted to make sure that that they still played apart in the star trek universe in DS9 and the easy way to do that was have them be the wrench in the engine for the occasional episode.
Basically remind the audience there still around doing there part in the galaxy, for better or worse.
Vulcan Admiral in the battle to retake DS9.
@@ronkennedy1916 And Sisko's Vulcan captain at Wolf 359!
"To manufactured triumph, here here"
It's really weird that this Vulcan is trying to be so demeaning to Sisko. Sisko has basically been at the front lines since the start, DS9 was the first battle of the war, he went on to be appointed adjutant to Admiral Ross and helped lead the fleet to take back the wormhole entrance, Sisko has been one of the most important people in the war, and this dipshit wants to puff out his chest and insult him for how cushy he's had it?
Sisko's response should have been to laugh in his face.
they are rivals its not played off very well considering its the only time we see this guy.
They have a long history of being rivals. I have no doubt in a stressful situation the two would be professional enough to put aside their differences for their crews. But in a peaceful scenario behind the lines? I could see the two being at eachothers throats.
The thing to remember about Vulcans is that they aren't *naturally* emotionless, rational beings. Thats what they pretend. Vulcans are *innately* super emotional, super volatile. Moreso than humans. Culturally they suppress it.
So this particular vulcan *is* an asshole. He does have an illogical vendetta against Sisko. he is bigoted, unpleasant, and a snob. He's trying to make himself appear to be a bastion of logic and rationality. But its only ever learned behavior. Vulcan's feel just like every species. They just don't express it. And those feelings include malice, prejudice, and viciousness. Just like every species.
@@benlowe1701 I have yet to see a Vulcan in Starfleet that hasn't eventually been emotionally compromised by their interactions with humans. Doesn't always come out pretty.
@@sabriam Its likely that there conflicting schools of thought even among the mainstream Vulcans as to the extent that Vulcans are compromised.
Its never been entirely clear if Vulcans emotional suppression was actually good for them or not, or if it's just the result of generational trauma from when they nearly wiped themselves out in war. I'd go so far as to say that part of Reunification with Romulus will be the gradual acceptance of their emotions. More of a "Yes, I'm feeling angry now, and as a Vulcan I shall suppress it and behave logically." Than just a flat denial of their anger that some Vulcans seem unable to even process or deal with, much less suppress. Logic in spite of emotion, over emotion, rather than instead of.
But maybe that's because I'm human and and the idea of repressing all emotion seems exceptionally unhealthy...
That Ferengi is the Forrest Gump of baseball.
Rom is a lot of things and yes
That is why i prefer Andorians!
It's Solok's 'no' at the end that sells this scene for me
I wonder what became of the autographed baseball? Pretty sure it's a collectors item.
Probably Avery Brooks have it, he is a baseball fan after all.
lol Worf's autograph is just WORF in plain text
Ironically the Niners play baseball as good as the 49ers play football.
That's not what irony is at all - nice try at talking shit only to reveal your stupidity lol
The 49ers are 11-3.
If the last Super Bowl was any indication....well.....
TO MANUFACTURED TRIUMPHANT!
Solok reminds me of Soval before he became nice.
Well, to be honest: Soval was just in line with the vulkans of that time... not yet accustomed to Surak`s teachings , but Solok is just oozing arrogance.
So basically the Vulcan's a racist, how . . . human.
Yet Sisko says not a word about it. Even though he hardly misses a chance to bring up racism from 400 years ago on his own planet.
Kind of a double standard.
@DriftZ TwoSeven Not when it comes with a sense of superiority. Which is the determining factor between a racial bias and racism.
@@TommygunNG He only did that once in the entire show. Don't exaggerate.
@@Dragblacker Find me a chance he passed up.
@@TommygunNG He literally only brought it up in one episode, "Badda Bing Badda Bang". And Kasidy told him he was wrong for thinking that about Vic Fontaine's holosuite program.
Rom AKA, Max Grodénchik (naturally right-handed) played left-handed, as it was the only way he could convincingly play baseball poorly.
He sold it well. 🤣
Anyone notice how Starfleet's whole thing is discovering new life, civilizations, peace, acceptance etc but a lot of the main cast of the shows frequently mock, tease and annoy Vulcans because they choose to not experience emotion?
Yes that has always bothered me a bit lol
Solok was being an asshole to sisko and other non Vulcans. He asked for it.
In this case Solok was an ahole. They exist in every race.
Did I hear irritation in that voice?!
haha!
The fact that Sisko has a San Francisco Giants hat after the many centuries past makes my heart warm
If it's Baseball, you know Sisko is there haha!
Damn, one of the best DS9 clips EVAR! Thanks, OP!
The laughing Vulcan and his dog
That guy's vulcan? At first I thought he was romulan talking to Sisko in the office but that can't be right. He's wearing Star Fleet uniform.
I mean, same guys.
In real life, actor playing Rom is an actual ball player, and had to act playing badly for this episode
Then he did a great job acting because he really looked like he sucks
Ben is a great troll
so much hatred in the beginning, more than between Kirk and Klingons including Kruge, and Khan lol
This scene could use a pitch timer and the ABS challenge system
Best Vulcan ever
3:40 -- Rom's gonna be gettin' some oo-mox later.
that baseball must be an incredible collectible
"That's my dad."
Captains log, was huge this morning... like a grizzley bear broke into my bathroom
Imagine if the Borg showed up to play
If DS9 went for 20 seasons this would have happened.
Captain Solok❤❤❤
How awesome would it have been to see a series about a Federation baseball league?
I feel sorry for humanity. Are we to believe that as large a station as DS9 was, with Starfleet personnel, they couldn't find 9 people who knew about baseball, and had to resort to using people like Rom?
Baseball is highly endangered in the Trek universe. It's been established long before this episode.
early in DS9 they made it clear that baseball was almost extinct as a sport for humans. By the mid 21st century, there was only a few hundred people at the World Series.
@@takerdust Why how?
@@detectivefoxley9912 The beginning of BasketBall answers that question
@@detectivefoxley9912 Well, going by Star Trek's timeline, the early 21 century was just coming out of one world war and quickly hit another, so baseball was pretty down on the lists of priorities. Plus, the simple fact is that the passage of time means a lot of stuff as fallen out of use. Chariot racing was extremely popular for the Romans, not so much for the Middle Ages.
We did win at “Quarks” here in NY 🗽 stay welcoming, friends! And take no guff 💋😘🤗
makes me wonder how much is that baseball worth today.
How is this guy not evaluated by the Vulcan council or something? Not only is he racist and mans a Vulcan only crew because he thinks Vulcans are superior to humans but he is also clearly highly emotional, gloating and taking enjoyment from demeaning Sisko and getting irritated when he "lost". Not only are these emotions but they are also signs of sadism, a trait inherent to Vulcans who can't control their emotions.
The T'Kumbra wasn't the only Starfleet ship with Vulcan only crew.
What's with the fake Worf sitting behind Bashir? Obviously a stand in - maybe Dorn wasn't available that day? Just never noticed it before lol
The only part that bothers me is the baseball is signed in all English. When it should have been in each persons native language. Small detail forgotten.
They all knew it was for Sisko so made an effort to sign in English perhaps?
@@scottstewart3884 yeah, you could note the fact that the nonhumans don’t have fancy calligraphy for their signatures, too. Probably what with it being a human custom
But then we wouldn’t have gotten Quark’s signature with the lobes or *W O R F.*
@@Whatsuppbuddies But Worf was raised on Earth by humans, so he at least should know cursive.
To manufactured triumphs!
I’d love to have that ball!!!
I didn't even know about this episode, and I expected the opposition to be Romulans, not Vulcans. How...... illogical.
It's great to see baseball survived into the 24th century.
well, only sorta! Even most of the humans on the station had never heard of it.
Vulcan shoulda signed the thing.
Look at that, Doyle middle school and everyone who loves us. #downstate
I wonder where that ball is. That would be a great addition to some kind of Trek museum. There's some kind of Trek resort in Las Vegas. Or there used to be. If it's still there. Maybe Avery Brooks has it. Anyone know?
It isn’t just Diedre in love with Mo’C Broken Glass, so keep that in mind.
How did Solok get a crew of all Vulcans? Is that even legal?
As the Ship’s captain, he can choose from any number of Starfleet candidates to crew his ship.
Not the same actor, but Solok reminds me of Lt Cmdr Christopher Hobson
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Hahahahaha...haah...hahahahahaha
Wait i thought u didnt exist
Your welcome is acknowledged
This actually happened? Where's the gorn team?
Huh they lost :P?
BRyan N.m💜
I thought this was a wonderful episode, from probably the best Star Trek series of them all.
Sisko: Eat my shorts!
The worst Vulcan ever
So why wasnt micheal dorn in quarks?
@@audreysimeon1111 no at the end of take me out to the holosuite that ain't dorny
"manufactured Triumph" sounds like copium to me.
Who gave 2 👎?
The Vulcan in this are the personification of the Kids and Adult children on the internet.
You're just having a good time, playing with mates and enjoying life, but the scream and cry because you don't validate them, and it's such a good feeling knowing that there life is so shit they have to take to the internet and hide away lmao.
😂💜🦚
The holodeck has replaced time travel as the lamest plot device. Can't come up with a story? Select any era - any subject - any reality and voila!
One of the most cringeworthy episodes of DS9.
dumbest episode ever
Sound like a true vulcan
This was a light-hearted episode in the midst of this with war in them
Did I hear irritation in that comment?
Thank you space worm 💚🦚🍼💙