@@LukeMegBiking I hope so. I've read your hints and tips as well and will stick with it. I too have watched so many 'instructional' videos and think maybe I'm trying to remember too many how to's all at once. The progress you and Meg have made is brilliant, MTB is a great sport/hobby.
Steve_MTB We appreciate that thank you 🙏. That’s where I went wrong. Focusing looking ahead, arms straight and just getting that balance point was the key to holding the manual 😀
Great vid, it took me 2 years to get it pretty dialed. I struggled a lot and went back and forth with doing them really well and then doing them very sloppy and unbalanced. You’re completely right about keeping it short and relaxing. My go to check list in my head is “clavicle down to the stem, heals down, arms relaxed with my torso upright, pulling with my back not arms” sounds like a lot but it works.
@@zomambik picture you’re pushing off a wall when facing it. When you start your chin will be against the wall. That’s how I come down to the stem, torso upright, collerbone towards the back of the stem, heels down, arms relaxed but strong grip, keep torso upright when bringing your hips back and low, your arms will straighten and the front end will raise. Keep your eyes forward and think about your legs as the balance adjusters not your arms.
im 39 and practicing the manuel for 8 months, longest distance i do is around 30 mtrs but 1 in 10 tries, my avarege is 14 meters. Someday i finish my practice with a really good one and i told my self this is it i learned it tomorrow its gonna be much better but tomorrow boom worse like a beginner. This back progress always make me mad and break my motivation. Things make my manuel training much better are, doing them well rested and feel strong, good warm up before session, definitely learning it first in a down hill area it supports you alot, and try to be the body shape similar to wheelie its just not sitting the seat. Also practicing coaster wheelie helps your manuel a lot, especially staying at that balance point problem. As in this video mentioned stay relax and do not overtrain cuz it gives you back proggress its a very athletic move and make you tired quickly. Manuel machines definitaly useless dont even try to build or buy them. Doing manuels on a moving bike is completely different.
Hey Kerem, it sounds like you are doing a great job. For sure Manual machines are a waste of time (in my opinion). I recommend changing up the area where you practise, try on steeper hills, then hills with less gradient, keep mixing it up :-) You've got this!
Good video. I have been practicing for a couple years now, and at one point I got where I could go 30 feet or so. Now I can go maybe 10 feet or so. You have inspired me to practice again.
I'm having the same issues. And like you I have been trying a few different skills while out. Not overloading. I just cant get the wheel up anywhere near high enough. On a positive note I'm doing ok with the track stand. For me I think its confidence. Age might be a factor at 61. But I will not let that beat me. I fit and healthy so just need to keep chipping away Good video and I feel your frustration but you have done it. Nice one
Good effort mate. It just takes time and persistence for sure, it’s a skill that always needs to be worked on. We were just doing a wheelie video for Meg, where I get her to step off the bike 🚲 on purpose when she lifts the front wheel too high, this way you eliminate the fear and know what todo if you do go to high and don’t use the back brake quick enough. Hope that makes sense, Just remember, push directly down, then push your body weight backwards and as far back as possible, this for sure will lift the front wheel (down and backwards has to be 2 separate movements when learning)
Kudos mate! I started the same journey about 2 weeks ago. Progress is slow and it`s frustrating, but since it`s the winter and I have a new bike, learning to manual in our underground garage is the only time I have on it, I just have to crack on.
You've arrived at similar conclusions to mine regarding learning new mtb skills - session 20 min max and end on a good attempt. Normally I do 20 min + 10 min break (practice other stuff I already do quite well) + 20 min. If at some point during that second leg I hit it right, something I consider the best during this whole session, I stop. Even if it's only the 5th minute. Well done on the manual. That final footage is awesome!
catur indra sukmana that is so cool dude. To hear my story has helped makes me SUPER STOKED. In times of frustration, just remember I had exactly the same feeling, but that passes and something will just click 😀🤟🙏
Thank you for the video, it keeps me motivated! Now my progress is like on 5:58. I’m practicing every day with 30 minutes sessions, and reading these comments from people who are trying and can’t even lift the front wheel up are inspirational too :)
That’s awesome to hear dude. I’m so happy for you. Keep up with the practice and please update us on your progress, you will be killing it at manuals soon 🙌🔥👏
I have started manualing 1 month ago, and i did the same mistake, i used to follow steps too much without trying to also follow my instincts. But today i have tried it again and i have relaxed, i have definitely done progress and it felt way better! Obviously is not perfect but from now on only practive will make it better! Also another thing that helped at me first is to not be scared to spin
Class matey Well done! They look great 👌Great tutorial ! Am gunna do the same challenge! And hope to get it to soon as, but am gunna keep trying for next 2 month! And also mix it up with endos n 180s n that cos a used to to them when A was a kid! But i never even knew what manuals were😡😂Thanks for sharing captain ! Al maybe post early attempt and then a successful manual 🤞 which hopefully will be sooner than later🤟
Nice video 👍. Im where you were in may, I can lift it to the balance point and go a little bit longer but it's jut happening I don't control it ;) .I go again this evening, I'll try to relax😁
Glad you liked it 😀. Good idea, relaxing and hot over thinking it is really important. Sometimes just playing on the bike for 2 minutes a few times in the day really helps, then when you go back to practise in a day or 2 the technique suddenly just happens 😀
The Slow Rider definitely, you could see the frustration that on my face. We had many more clips, but I couldn’t use them all otherwise the video would be 2hrs long 🤣 I was tracking progress by fractions of seconds. I kept pushing and pushing forward then it clicked once I stopped over thinking it.
Thanks so much, I appreciate that. Yes that’s right, the black bike is an eBike, and for sure it is more difficult to manual. When jumping back in a normal bike, I had to be careful not to flip it due to using to much power, which was required on the eBike to lift the front end
James Heymans Wow thank you, that means a lot 😀🙏. About 3 months ago I committed to making better quality consistent TH-cam content, as previously Instagram was our main focus (our mistake 🤦🏻♂️). Thank you for the support ✌️
Brakes mate... just can't get the brakes. I've got grabby Shimano XT that probably don't help, but they stop me looping out!! I can get the front wheel up, but the second I touch the brakes to stop a loop out I'm back down. I've got a manual machine and can hold it there, no chain for a good 20 seconds, touch of the brake just after getting the front wheel up, and then pump with my hips to hold it with the odd touch of the brake, arms straight.., but when rolling along, down and back, from wheel up, hold for a second or two, goes slightly too high and touch the brake and I'm back down. I noticed you learnt almost coming to a stop right up on the back wheel when you talked about balance point etc.. any tips for brake control, e.g. down and back, front comes up, are you already feathering the brake or do you go back too far and grab come brake to compensate? Awesome video, thanks so much for sharing!!!!
Hey buddy, I have XT brakes on my Nukeproof Mega, and for sure they are grabby, but the key is to just keep grinding. What will happen with more practise is, when you use too much brake, your body will counter act this by moving further backwards, thus keeping the front wheel up in the air. Only consistent practise will help, as you body/brain will figure this out through repetitions. You may not realise it, but every time this happens you are learning, and something will just click, like it did with me in the video. You can see and hear my frustration, but I assure you, it will come dude :-)
Luke & Meg's Biking Tube thank so much buddy!! I did wonder if that was the case but thanks for the reassurance!!! I’ll keep practising!! Just need some new skin on my hands now!! 😂😂🤘👍
Cydaps 😂 I feel your pain, hands definitely take a beating. Another thing that helped is to mess around with another skill, it gets your brain thinking about something different, which is good when you get frustrated with manual practise ✌️
@@LukeMegBiking Slowly getting there, just been working on the balance point. I just noticed you've got a Decoy! Awesome bike but I don't know how you ever got that into a manual, it's so heavy I can hardly get the front off the ground!! I think that highlights that I'm perhaps not putting enough weight back or not pulling the front high enough.... I need to trust those brakes more! Still such an inspiring video mate!
@@norcorider2005 For sure the eBike needs a lot more work dude. I remember sweating buckets a year back on my first bike (Cube stereo 160SL) trying again and again to manual, and I never got close. It was moments like that where I thought "enough is enough" and I just kept at it. If you can wheelie, I recommend doing one and purposely going too far back and just jumping off the back using your legs to support you, which reduces the fear of over doing a wheelie or a manual, so you can really get your ass far back on the bike to lift that from wheel during manual practise :-)
I stayed well clear of manual machines. I have never known/seen a person learn to manual from a manual machine. With each practice rep on a bike, you learn something, I do not feel a manual machine can offer the same
Great video! Just a question aren’t you a bit high during the manual? Didn’t getting lower help? Because I see that you have the same “style” as me in that I am also a bit high above the wheel and when I compared myself to videos I thought that I should lower myself. So my question is whether you are doing your manuals lower compared to when you started and if it helped you or the height was not an issue? Thx
Thank you, my issue was I wasn't holding my manual as I was so concentrated on been so far back on the bike. If you look at the pro riders like Brendog, he stands up quote a bit when manualling. I just go to where I feel the balance point and hold it :-)
@@LukeMegBiking thanks, I’ll try to relax, I either don’t get the front wheel up enough or I tense up because I’m afraid I will loop out and hit the rear break or I stand up.
Hey Luke, I am trying to master consistent wheelies and manuals. Do you think it makes sense to master the wheelie before starting to learn manuals? Or do you think they are independent of each other? Thanks.
0:02 Introduction
0:57 Benefits of Manuals
1:42 My Manual Journey Explanation
2:55 Manual Progression Journey Starts
9:20 Final words & Tips
@@JanekSztacheta Great tip, thanks
Manuals are my nemesis! You've given me motivation to get out and start trying to learn again and persevere. Always enjoy your videos, cheers.
That's awesome dude, for sure you can do it. I have included some tip within the video description :-)
@@LukeMegBiking I hope so. I've read your hints and tips as well and will stick with it. I too have watched so many 'instructional' videos and think maybe I'm trying to remember too many how to's all at once.
The progress you and Meg have made is brilliant, MTB is a great sport/hobby.
Steve_MTB We appreciate that thank you 🙏. That’s where I went wrong. Focusing looking ahead, arms straight and just getting that balance point was the key to holding the manual 😀
Great vid, it took me 2 years to get it pretty dialed. I struggled a lot and went back and forth with doing them really well and then doing them very sloppy and unbalanced. You’re completely right about keeping it short and relaxing. My go to check list in my head is “clavicle down to the stem, heals down, arms relaxed with my torso upright, pulling with my back not arms” sounds like a lot but it works.
Glad it helped, keep at it (I sure am) :-)
I'll take any help I can get to learn the manual - could you explain the "clavicle down to the stem" bit?
@@zomambik picture you’re pushing off a wall when facing it. When you start your chin will be against the wall. That’s how I come down to the stem, torso upright, collerbone towards the back of the stem, heels down, arms relaxed but strong grip, keep torso upright when bringing your hips back and low, your arms will straighten and the front end will raise. Keep your eyes forward and think about your legs as the balance adjusters not your arms.
That’s a really good video. It’s given me the enthusiasm to try and continue learning to manual 👍🏼
Josh Stanley dude that makes me so happy. It really is a case of pushing through, being consistent and it will all come together for you 🙏🤟
Good video showing the truth of learning a hard technique, frustration, repetition and as you say, relaxing and accepting it takes time!
Thank you. We are all about progression and showing the reality of the process, which I hope helps others to not give up because progress will come 😀
im 39 and practicing the manuel for 8 months, longest distance i do is around 30 mtrs but 1 in 10 tries, my avarege is 14 meters. Someday i finish my practice with a really good one and i told my self this is it i learned it tomorrow its gonna be much better but tomorrow boom worse like a beginner. This back progress always make me mad and break my motivation. Things make my manuel training much better are, doing them well rested and feel strong, good warm up before session, definitely learning it first in a down hill area it supports you alot, and try to be the body shape similar to wheelie its just not sitting the seat. Also practicing coaster wheelie helps your manuel a lot, especially staying at that balance point problem. As in this video mentioned stay relax and do not overtrain cuz it gives you back proggress its a very athletic move and make you tired quickly. Manuel machines definitaly useless dont even try to build or buy them. Doing manuels on a moving bike is completely different.
Hey Kerem, it sounds like you are doing a great job. For sure Manual machines are a waste of time (in my opinion). I recommend changing up the area where you practise, try on steeper hills, then hills with less gradient, keep mixing it up :-) You've got this!
waw glad to see the realistic struggle we all know - props on holding on and the great result!
Thanks so much. I am currently working on a similar video but for hunny hops at the moment also (another skill that took me lot's of work to attain)
@@LukeMegBiking great, can't wait to see it! That's one skill I do have under control, but took me some time too. Goodluck!
I just got a new enduro bike yesterday which boosted my confidence and I did my first proper manual after a few tries
CharlieMTB australia That’s awesome man. Feel epic doesn’t it!? Pulling them out on the trail is super fun also 🤟👏
Good video. I have been practicing for a couple years now, and at one point I got where I could go 30 feet or so. Now I can go maybe 10 feet or so. You have inspired me to practice again.
Heath Norton Oh nice job 🔥. That’s so good to hear, keep in touch about your progress Heath 😀🤟
Great video! I’ve been having this frustration too and it helps to see that it can lead somewhere!
Thanks a lot. Great, that’s what I had hoped for when making the video, if I can do it, anyone can 🙏😀
This channels go go big
James Smith thanks buddy
that why i have huge respect for people who got skills, cause they really work hard to master that.
For sure, it's so impressive to watch people slay it on bikes right (I dream of the day) lol
I'm having the same issues. And like you I have been trying a few different skills while out. Not overloading. I just cant get the wheel up anywhere near high enough. On a positive note I'm doing ok with the track stand. For me I think its confidence. Age might be a factor at 61. But I will not let that beat me. I fit and healthy so just need to keep chipping away
Good video and I feel your frustration but you have done it. Nice one
Good effort mate. It just takes time and persistence for sure, it’s a skill that always needs to be worked on.
We were just doing a wheelie video for Meg, where I get her to step off the bike 🚲 on purpose when she lifts the front wheel too high, this way you eliminate the fear and know what todo if you do go to high and don’t use the back brake quick enough.
Hope that makes sense,
Just remember, push directly down, then push your body weight backwards and as far back as possible, this for sure will lift the front wheel (down and backwards has to be 2 separate movements when learning)
@@LukeMegBiking just seen the wheelie video. Megs a natural luckily sod. Lol
@@davidyoung-nb2pu 🤣🙌 promise it’s a case of following the steps and repeating them, you can do it 💪
So good to see the process.. breathing is key.. thanks man👍
You bet! Here to help
Great video, I am hoping to learn manuals soon as well. Thanks for sharing your journey.
Thanks buddy, best of luck with your own journey 😀💪
Great video!
Kudos mate! I started the same journey about 2 weeks ago. Progress is slow and it`s frustrating, but since it`s the winter and I have a new bike, learning to manual in our underground garage is the only time I have on it, I just have to crack on.
You've arrived at similar conclusions to mine regarding learning new mtb skills
- session 20 min max and end on a good attempt. Normally I do 20 min + 10 min break (practice other stuff I already do quite well) + 20 min.
If at some point during that second leg I hit it right, something I consider the best during this whole session, I stop. Even if it's only the 5th minute.
Well done on the manual. That final footage is awesome!
Rad progress 🤟🏻🤟🏻 cannot beat a rad manual
Thanks dude... hell yeah, they are so much fun aren’t they 😀🙌
Really good video mate, might try this out. Been using the manual machine but not actually done much out on the road
zak woodman Thanks buddy. You will smash it 🔥
I just start learning manual this week. Thank you for you story, it's so motivated!!
catur indra sukmana that is so cool dude. To hear my story has helped makes me SUPER STOKED.
In times of frustration, just remember I had exactly the same feeling, but that passes and something will just click 😀🤟🙏
Thank you for the video, it keeps me motivated! Now my progress is like on 5:58. I’m practicing every day with 30 minutes sessions, and reading these comments from people who are trying and can’t even lift the front wheel up are inspirational too :)
That’s awesome to hear dude. I’m so happy for you. Keep up with the practice and please update us on your progress, you will be killing it at manuals soon 🙌🔥👏
@@LukeMegBiking sure! I hope I will turn back shortly ;)
This is something I want to learn too . Well done dude 🤘🏻
Thanks buddy, for sure you can do it 🔥
Awesome video, great tip RELAX!!
Thank you, hope it helps 😀
I have started manualing 1 month ago, and i did the same mistake, i used to follow steps too much without trying to also follow my instincts.
But today i have tried it again and i have relaxed, i have definitely done progress and it felt way better! Obviously is not perfect but from now on only practive will make it better!
Also another thing that helped at me first is to not be scared to spin
Class matey Well done! They look great 👌Great tutorial ! Am gunna do the same challenge! And hope to get it to soon as, but am gunna keep trying for next 2 month! And also mix it up with endos n 180s n that cos a used to to them when A was a kid! But i never even knew what manuals were😡😂Thanks for sharing captain ! Al maybe post early attempt and then a successful manual 🤞 which hopefully will be sooner than later🤟
Keep up the great work! I'm struggling at this as well.
Thanks buddy. They are hard to learn, but when it comes together it’s absolutely worth the struggle 😀✌️
awesome bro...
Thank you so much 😀
This is everywhere on facebook! I am going outside tonight to try this, thanks brah
Oh awesome. Yessss dude, Greta job 🔥👏
One of the hardest bloody things to learn
Oliver Marr Enduro You smashed it in Morzine. So cool that you were there for my breakthrough dude
Nice video 👍.
Im where you were in may, I can lift it to the balance point and go a little bit longer but it's jut happening I don't control it ;) .I go again this evening, I'll try to relax😁
Glad you liked it 😀. Good idea, relaxing and hot over thinking it is really important.
Sometimes just playing on the bike for 2 minutes a few times in the day really helps, then when you go back to practise in a day or 2 the technique suddenly just happens 😀
great video mate! i should start learning manual too :)
Thanks dude. I really do recommend learning them, they are really helpful on the trail but also are super fun 😀
Luke & Meg's Biking Tube true! I just need to pass the frustration point and keep going! But some time it’s tough!
The Slow Rider definitely, you could see the frustration that on my face. We had many more clips, but I couldn’t use them all otherwise the video would be 2hrs long 🤣
I was tracking progress by fractions of seconds.
I kept pushing and pushing forward then it clicked once I stopped over thinking it.
Great video and dedication. Was the black bike you were practicing on an EMTB? If so, did you find it more difficult because of the weight? Thanks...
Thanks so much, I appreciate that. Yes that’s right, the black bike is an eBike, and for sure it is more difficult to manual.
When jumping back in a normal bike, I had to be careful not to flip it due to using to much power, which was required on the eBike to lift the front end
awesome 💪
Thanks so much
You deserve more subs. you remind me of mike Boyd. I think if you really set your mind to it you could grow fast
James Heymans Wow thank you, that means a lot 😀🙏. About 3 months ago I committed to making better quality consistent TH-cam content, as previously Instagram was our main focus (our mistake 🤦🏻♂️).
Thank you for the support ✌️
@@LukeMegBiking no problem
Brilliant vid #filthyrides
Thanks a lot ✌️😀
Brakes mate... just can't get the brakes. I've got grabby Shimano XT that probably don't help, but they stop me looping out!! I can get the front wheel up, but the second I touch the brakes to stop a loop out I'm back down. I've got a manual machine and can hold it there, no chain for a good 20 seconds, touch of the brake just after getting the front wheel up, and then pump with my hips to hold it with the odd touch of the brake, arms straight.., but when rolling along, down and back, from wheel up, hold for a second or two, goes slightly too high and touch the brake and I'm back down. I noticed you learnt almost coming to a stop right up on the back wheel when you talked about balance point etc.. any tips for brake control, e.g. down and back, front comes up, are you already feathering the brake or do you go back too far and grab come brake to compensate? Awesome video, thanks so much for sharing!!!!
Hey buddy, I have XT brakes on my Nukeproof Mega, and for sure they are grabby, but the key is to just keep grinding. What will happen with more practise is, when you use too much brake, your body will counter act this by moving further backwards, thus keeping the front wheel up in the air.
Only consistent practise will help, as you body/brain will figure this out through repetitions. You may not realise it, but every time this happens you are learning, and something will just click, like it did with me in the video.
You can see and hear my frustration, but I assure you, it will come dude :-)
Luke & Meg's Biking Tube thank so much buddy!! I did wonder if that was the case but thanks for the reassurance!!! I’ll keep practising!! Just need some new skin on my hands now!! 😂😂🤘👍
Cydaps 😂 I feel your pain, hands definitely take a beating. Another thing that helped is to mess around with another skill, it gets your brain thinking about something different, which is good when you get frustrated with manual practise ✌️
@@LukeMegBiking Slowly getting there, just been working on the balance point. I just noticed you've got a Decoy! Awesome bike but I don't know how you ever got that into a manual, it's so heavy I can hardly get the front off the ground!! I think that highlights that I'm perhaps not putting enough weight back or not pulling the front high enough.... I need to trust those brakes more! Still such an inspiring video mate!
@@norcorider2005 For sure the eBike needs a lot more work dude. I remember sweating buckets a year back on my first bike (Cube stereo 160SL) trying again and again to manual, and I never got close. It was moments like that where I thought "enough is enough" and I just kept at it. If you can wheelie, I recommend doing one and purposely going too far back and just jumping off the back using your legs to support you, which reduces the fear of over doing a wheelie or a manual, so you can really get your ass far back on the bike to lift that from wheel during manual practise :-)
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Awesome :-)
Have you ever used a manual machine? If so, was it helpful?
I stayed well clear of manual machines. I have never known/seen a person learn to manual from a manual machine. With each practice rep on a bike, you learn something, I do not feel a manual machine can offer the same
Great video! Just a question aren’t you a bit high during the manual? Didn’t getting lower help? Because I see that you have the same “style” as me in that I am also a bit high above the wheel and when I compared myself to videos I thought that I should lower myself. So my question is whether you are doing your manuals lower compared to when you started and if it helped you or the height was not an issue? Thx
Thank you, my issue was I wasn't holding my manual as I was so concentrated on been so far back on the bike. If you look at the pro riders like Brendog, he stands up quote a bit when manualling. I just go to where I feel the balance point and hold it :-)
@@LukeMegBiking thanks, I’ll try to relax, I either don’t get the front wheel up enough or I tense up because I’m afraid I will loop out and hit the rear break or I stand up.
Hey Luke, I am trying to master consistent wheelies and manuals. Do you think it makes sense to master the wheelie before starting to learn manuals? Or do you think they are independent of each other? Thanks.
The Brain learn this over night. More Breaks for 2-3 Day will help😉
Thanks for the video. How many times you fall back during the 4 months?
PDK Mountain Biking - Snowboarding - Outdoors Thank you. Zero times in all honesty
What Height riser bars do you use?