StarCraft 2 Low APM Challenge 2022! Zerg Rank Up Guide - Plat to Diamond (Ep. 6)

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  • A comprehensive beginner/basic Starcraft 2 Guide - Bronze to Masters/GM with LOW APM Challenge (2022)⭐Zerg Part 6 (Plat 1 to Diamond 3)⭐Learn the tips & tricks to play Starcraft 2 by working smarter and not harder. Basic build orders, counters and cheese defense + life lessons :)
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    Zerg Low APM Playlist: • Zerg - LOW APM Challen...
    Timestamps:
    0:00 Recap, New Season Drama & Intro
    3:20 Map Vetoes & Info
    5:15 vs Protoss | Scouting & Defend 2 Base All-In
    17:20 vs Zerg | Roach Timing Build
    27:00 vs Zerg | When to Build Hydralisks?
    38:40 vs Protoss | Lategame vs Ground Protoss
    1:00:55 vs Zerg | Roach vs Nydus Timing
    1:08:56 vs Terran | Scout & Defend Proxy 2 Rax
    1:23:20 vs Zerg | How to Do A Strong Roach Build
    1:31:20 vs Zerg | Defending Super Early Pool Rush
    1:38:30 vs Terran | Very Salty Diamond Terran
    1:44:45 vs Zerg | Yet Another Roach Timing
    1:55:40 vs Terran | Viewer Game Actual Macro
    2:11:50 Q & A - What Do I Build to get Better?
    2:22:30 Q & A - How Do I Play Like Dark?
    2:27:50 Dramatic Emotional Outro
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  • @Psy-Krow
    @Psy-Krow ปีที่แล้ว +16

    your live commentary about what you are doing, when, and why is so helpful for learning how to play better, thank you!

  • @MrFancyGamer
    @MrFancyGamer ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i’m a new player (only played wc3 as a 9yo) started playing like 2 months ago and i’m like 50mmr away from plat, i still die to 7 factory terran lol but so far been loving ur content :)

  • @uxaenarrhythmia1483
    @uxaenarrhythmia1483 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Taking the concepts of low APM challenge and just speeding up over time has helped me go from a platinum to medium diamond protoss. Even the Zerg and Terran videos help me improve my knowledge of the other races, their strengths, timings, weaknesses and breakpoints.

  • @sawyer6551
    @sawyer6551 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You did see it was a nydus in the 5th game when you flew the overseer in, you even selected it and saw it was a nydus but still said double evo chamber lol

  • @WolfGangDealers
    @WolfGangDealers ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Glad to see that Hybrid became playable now that we have zerg protoss.
    Edit: the context is that the video first had protoss in the Title.

    • @ForzaOwnz
      @ForzaOwnz ปีที่แล้ว

      😂

    • @Brungyslol
      @Brungyslol ปีที่แล้ว

      Who are you, and how do you comment on every single sc2 video I've ever watched?
      Its uncanny

    • @WolfGangDealers
      @WolfGangDealers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Brungyslol if all the sc2 content you watch is only winter and some harstem, then its possible. However, I am just a very big fan of Winter’s starcraft 2 content and watch it on youtube since i cannot make it to his streams.

    • @Brungyslol
      @Brungyslol ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WolfGangDealers i see! Maybe its just every Winter video, and confirmation bias takes over.
      Also youre name is familiar actually, did you ever used to do stuff with Destiny?

    • @WolfGangDealers
      @WolfGangDealers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Brungyslol no i never played destiny, and even if i did, My account name on everything but TH-cam is WolfGangDealers

  • @stelko1018
    @stelko1018 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the apm challange inspired me to play a game of starcraft for the first time in like 10 years

  • @Gredddfe
    @Gredddfe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:06:00 Clicks, sees a Nydus, says "Double evo"

  • @crispyco6277
    @crispyco6277 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank u winter, i shall sleep now, wake up, and watch it all again cause i play zerg, bless
    Edit: Now that i have rewatched after sleeping, why yes, u doing arcade games and other stuff sounds very exciting, and i do need more background noise for my other games, so i shall check out that other channel winter, i shall indeed!

  • @TheWarrior74
    @TheWarrior74 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love your content. I'm a silver zerg and try to play consistently. Just took a hard L. You're keeping me in the game.

  • @joshsblee
    @joshsblee ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this series. Thank you!

  • @brendanadams6910
    @brendanadams6910 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been waiting for this .
    The hardest race .

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on what league you are talking about. Platinum and diamond is full of "lost" zerg players that just stole the ladder points from players who don't know how to wall off against zergling floods, especially protoss since they don't have easy depots. Once that stops working, they just start to lose a lot.

  • @omarnyctea8948
    @omarnyctea8948 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This series has inspired me to pick up the game again and play later for the first time in years, thank you!

  • @zakreiner2469
    @zakreiner2469 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem with this is you can spike apm to deal with cheese or micro intensive situations that truely newer or slower players couldn't do. You could remedy this by switching hands, mouse in left keyboard on right. This way your going to have sloppy play and mis clicks like us metal leaguers , and decision making becomes paramount which is the whole point of this series

  • @philfedorowick
    @philfedorowick 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hot damn. Not even 10 seconds in and I'd recognize the Hardspace: Shipbreaker soundtrack anywhere. You sir, are a man of culture.

  • @benismann
    @benismann 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SC2 chat keeps someone off? That's the only reason i stare at the menu 4 hours a day, it's hilarious

  • @watervapor42
    @watervapor42 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing series! I have learned so much from this!

  • @user-cu9gy3ft3v
    @user-cu9gy3ft3v ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, your videos awesome. I sleep at night and during day time and i already fell asleep 5 times during the video in 1 day!

  • @gteche
    @gteche ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done on the “dramatic emotional outro.” 😂

  • @JohnAndJohner
    @JohnAndJohner ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Protoss sure looks different

    • @MrIcySack
      @MrIcySack ปีที่แล้ว

      😅😅😊😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @PhuocNguyen-ji3uv
    @PhuocNguyen-ji3uv ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you and your content!!

  • @sucRipper
    @sucRipper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since this episode you are playing faster than me when I try really hard :)

  • @GustavBrahe
    @GustavBrahe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Winter remaining calm in face of panic and drama is such an inspiration to play more Sc2, not because the fun of it but as a course in emotional intelligence. This is an ability Buddhist monks spends hundreds of hours in meditation to achieve, is it translatable to other areas of life? Winter repelling all sorts of toxic suggestion from twitch chat suggest it does. Remaining calm when challenged is some of the most valuable asset on can have in career and relationships as it creates enough space for the mind to make up a realistic assessment of what is actually going on, instead of fighting your own illusions as well as the reality you are facing!

  • @wmzer0mw
    @wmzer0mw ปีที่แล้ว

    For the upgrades question the default is upgrade weapons first except in specific match ups:
    vs rine/rauder - carapace upgrade first, or else your units die b4 closing the gap
    vs mutas- get armor first as it affects each bounce of the glaive attack
    vs zealots heavy- get armor for lings to avoid getting 2 shot, otherwise ignore

  • @bass-dc9175
    @bass-dc9175 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Low APM challange is the perfect example as to why good players are good. Not being they are faster, but because they know what they need to do.
    A Bronze player with Maru lvl APM will still fail.
    Kind of like the "Stupid faster" meme.
    Bronze Player "Haha behold I have 1000 APM!"
    Silver Player: "Does that mean you are a pro now?"
    Bronze Player "No. I am bad faster. I make 15 Moves a second and all of them are wrong!"

  • @Pommes736
    @Pommes736 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sound warning for being close to supply caped? Damn, this would have made Go0dy unstoppable xD

  • @kgeo2686
    @kgeo2686 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank youuuuuu!!!!

  • @HeigthTrielli
    @HeigthTrielli ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a dedicated guide for scouting? I've learned a lot on the Low APM Challenge, but scouting is not entering my little brain that well. One specific thing I struggle is when should I sacrifice an overlord for scouting.

  • @tubesism
    @tubesism ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm personally kinda dissapointed with the ammount of zvz in this vod. I am a diamond 3 zerg with a 75% winrate vs zerg, but a 35% winrate vs the other 2 races. This vod is more useful to my victims than it is to me!

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 ปีที่แล้ว

      35%? Sounds like you are going for rushes a lot and expect it to work exactly the same vs the other races.

    • @tubesism
      @tubesism ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Leonhart_93 I never rush vs terran or protoss. Big macro-virgin. Vs zerg I do the ling-bane pig suggests and then rush to mutas if I smell roaches. If I get ling bane muta on the field at all it’s usually gg. Lately ive had to rush towards muta even harder because everyone is doing winters roach shit now. WHY DID YOU HAVE TO FIGHT SO MANY ZERGS WINTER!

    • @tubesism
      @tubesism ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Leonhart_93 also ive almost achieved 40% vs terran by slowly forcing myself to learn hive-tech! Gotta cast them clouds!

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tubesism Looks like you already know exactly where your problem is: macro and late game units. There are a lot of zergs like this in the platinum league, they got there by basically executing 12 pools and ling floods every game vs opponents (esp protoss) that didn't knew wall offs are a thing, but once everyone starts walling off which is around plat they get popped every time.
      Then they have to learn to actually macro, but they will be behind the curve for a while.

  • @carlosnavarro6665
    @carlosnavarro6665 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did watch the entire series

  • @vdfritzz
    @vdfritzz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i just got back to starcraft and i peaked 79 apm of just mindlessly building lmao
    taking 500 years to max out while my mind can only keep up until like 110 supply, after that my mind goes blank

    • @TheMuffinman191
      @TheMuffinman191 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t worry, half the player base does that too.
      Practice will make that better.

  • @grahamorandazzo5090
    @grahamorandazzo5090 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got masters twice and it was really hard. I had a lot of luck too. It's even harder now.

  • @tyrellwreleck4226
    @tyrellwreleck4226 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That protoss in the first game is not a real diamond player. Probably plat 3 or gold 1.
    Protoss can keep cheesing easily until they reach diamond 1. You can notice how he quits easily after the mutas reach the main.

  • @obamagaming9456
    @obamagaming9456 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last time I played this game consistently I was plat 1 beating my head against the wall to diamond, but I never made it. Perhaps I'll dust off the old StarCraft account and get onto ladder.

  • @springtrap0212
    @springtrap0212 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brood war low apm challange when?

  • @kgeo2686
    @kgeo2686 ปีที่แล้ว

    You been lifting a bit Winter? You look good! 😁

  • @peterpane9794
    @peterpane9794 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a zerg, should I attack interceptors or the carriers? I only watched the first episode yet (don't know whether the question is already asked)

    • @Leonhart_93
      @Leonhart_93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends vastly on what you attack them with. With corruptors you should ALWAYS right click the carriers. With hyrdra you should a move the interceptors only on low carrier counts, like 4 or less. After that it is a sure way to lose the game.

  • @stranger9212
    @stranger9212 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the music playing in the background? I kinda like it and cant find it.

  • @MrCreed145
    @MrCreed145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally. Does a spore crawler give vision invis vision when its unburied?

  • @slunchery
    @slunchery ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it seems like some advice boils down to "get good, kiddo," which is fair enough, but how to practice things like caster usage, good habits, etc when i'm barely keeping up with my opponents? better to trust matchmaking, take the derank and work back up starting with sloppier opponents?
    in the past, you have described your process to staying mindful revolved around watching replays and breaking down errors, which you would focus on during future matches. however, it may be several games before i get to a similar game state. what are your tips for identifying and working out bad habits during play? how would you suggest i make the most out of the games i play?

    • @epicfail5473
      @epicfail5473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch your replays and consider what you were doing and why you did that.
      If you lost the match what caused you to lose and how would you be able to prevent that going forward.
      If you won the match, why did you win. Were you the better player, or did your opponent make a blunder that let you recover?
      If your struggling against a certain strategy what can you do, within reason to look for it, identity it, and counter it.
      If your in diamond you've probably seen most of the strategies players use by now. So it should be a matter of going into a game with a plan, and adapting that plan to your specific opponent.

    • @slunchery
      @slunchery ปีที่แล้ว

      @@epicfail5473 i'm unable to trust my judgement on those questions, since my rank did not go up simply by replay review. but then, i watch commentators and nod along like, "this person gets it, i'll just trust them," and it tends to really help my play. why? how does one develop that kind of understanding, and even extend it? how to make the most out of those replays, answer the questions you proposed, and trust the conclusions?
      the times when the mechanics are off are easy calls, but in terms of decision-making it's not so easy to trust my determination of the error(s), though to many i'm sure that determination seems obvious. once you've come to a conclusion of "XYZ is why i won/lost," how do you test those conclusions and improve them, when the game state can differ so greatly between matches -- even by some miracle where you get the same map, races, and unit comps? what are the tools to pitch the unnecessary and focus on the critical (e.g. strategies, positioning, timing)?
      the easy answer would be "play more games," but i'm interested in making the process efficient and directed.

    • @epicfail5473
      @epicfail5473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@slunchery If your reviewing your replays and find yourself unable to trust in your own judgement, ultimately the best answer is, as you said, "play more games"
      All of the casters one might watch on TH-cam or Twitch have put in over thousands of hours of gametime, have played thousands of matches, and have reviewed a thousand more (more than that but I'm sure you get the point)
      If you have the desire to do so you could send in one of your better matches (win or lose) to Winter and get yourself on an episode of Angry Coach. Or you could watch videos from that collection to see if the advice applies to your strategies as well.
      In a game like Starcraft were there are so many things going on and so many factors that are all adding up to determine a match it can be difficult to know why certain outcomes occurred.
      Maybe it's also worth considering what point of the ladder progression your comfortable staying around, obviously if we could all be in GM that's be great. But at the end of the day not everyone can be in GM and that's ok. As long as your still enjoying gaming.

    • @slunchery
      @slunchery ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@epicfail5473 Thank you for the thoughtful response!
      I'd like to get to a point where my mechanics are the weak link in my play. Until then, there's a great deal of room for improvement in the decision-making department.

  • @jasonhall10
    @jasonhall10 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's his second channel? I don't see links anywhere.

  • @danicule8671
    @danicule8671 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I reached my maximum of 120 apm today at master3 with Z. I'm the living proof that you do not need apm to play well, you need apm for excellence

  • @SilenceSebi
    @SilenceSebi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did you change your colour to white ? O_o

  • @LordMephilis
    @LordMephilis ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you get SC1 sounds in SC2? o.o

  • @vincent78433
    @vincent78433 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    winter pls i'm stuck in diamond 3, i need more

  • @shadowedblight1673
    @shadowedblight1673 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve studied hard and gotten this far and I gotta say. I still don’t fully understand how zerg works

  • @Neruk01
    @Neruk01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like zerglings

  • @scroogietw6878
    @scroogietw6878 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got promoted to Master 3 but the border now shows bronze 3 and says 0 min and 0 max MMR, is there a way i can fix this bug?

    • @TheMuffinman191
      @TheMuffinman191 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leave league, replay a placement match.

    • @scroogietw6878
      @scroogietw6878 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMuffinman191 do i need to play just one or all 5?

    • @TheMuffinman191
      @TheMuffinman191 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scroogietw6878 1

    • @scroogietw6878
      @scroogietw6878 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheMuffinman191 thank you, will try that :)

  • @leomajdalani6060
    @leomajdalani6060 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wrong title winter

  • @joethestrat
    @joethestrat ปีที่แล้ว

    WinterStarcraft = Best Starcraft.

  • @Jdogthepim
    @Jdogthepim ปีที่แล้ว

    I Have seen all tosses go stright up charglots and scout the gold base there cheeky Players now and days i hate toss so much YEP LOOKS LIKE A REAL NA GAME RIGHT THERE I called it.

  • @ondacross5253
    @ondacross5253 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually find Zerg the easiest to play, then Protoss then Terran

  • @Fede.i.M.
    @Fede.i.M. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was bamboozled this ain't protoss

  • @tbone8358
    @tbone8358 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi shiba

  • @BRJoinGames
    @BRJoinGames 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:23:32 me 😃

  • @panda5996
    @panda5996 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No more low apm challenges last year??
    Make another account. MacroSalt run us through again please?

  • @ShadowBeetle
    @ShadowBeetle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HANK THE TITLE IS WRONG!!!! HANK!!!!!

  • @suvaraih2266
    @suvaraih2266 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fix the goddamn title Jimmy!

  • @L1felocked
    @L1felocked ปีที่แล้ว

    Lmao... "Pervert pillar"

  • @cman759
    @cman759 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ll say it again bronze league has no zergs because they all ranked up