Hasbro charging $10 more for a figure because of having to pay royalties for an actor's likeness, only for the figure to not resemble the actor. Because Hasbro doesn't have the license rights. But you still have to pay $10 more. 😑
There’s a hot toy Electro with him unmasked. The head sculpt look reasonably like him. It doesn’t look like he is in the Tom Cruise category. Don’t know what happened with Hasbro.
@@KyleEckers Yeah, more than likely. Hasbro probably didn't want to pay the price Jamie is asking for regarding the use of his likeness. Hot Toys also produced Batman '89 Joker figures with Jack Nicholson's likeness, so it seems that money is no issue for them. They're willing to pay whatever the actor is asking for.
If the likeness for Jamie Fox is not present, it seems that the figure should cost less. Hasbro didn't actually have to pay for likeness rights for this particular figure.🤷🏽♂️
I figured the reason for there being no swappable unmasked Jamie Foxx head included was due to a likeness rights issue. To my fellow collectors: When a figure based on a human character from a movie does not look like the actor...it's because of likeness rights. It's not that the company didn't want to give us an unmasked head. Legally, they couldn't. Whether it was because the actor said "no", or they were asking too high a price and the company wasn't willing to pay it. Whatever the case may be, they can't make the figure look like the actor, so they have to cover the face up with a mask/effects and not include an alternate head or give it a generic face that looks absolutely nothing like said actor. Either that, or they just don't make a figure at all.
Maybe this figure had nothing to do with cost, but I do know that Neca had to pay extra for the likeness rights for Dr. Peter Weller to make an unmasked RoboCop figure. For many years, they could not make an unmasked RoboCop due to Dr. Weller refusing and the sheer cost of obtaining the likeness rights to create such a figure. Recently, he decided to play ball, and Neca was able to release the unmasked figure. They continue to reuse the mold made for RoboCop to recoup the production costs but also the likeness costs.
Yes but in this case you are talking about an older movie where rights are piecemeal. It is very different acquiring rights to older films vs something current. Great thought though!!
A lot of modern films these things are baked in the deal. Nowadays actors have a lot more control of their image. With RoboCop they probably didn’t think they need Peter Weller’s likeness. So cut to today he probably didn’t want to allow his likeness to be used.
I understand actors rights, I get it, I like it, certainly with regard to AI whether that is during the life of an actor or their estate control which I would hope actors begin to stipulate nonuse before they pass.
Hey Scott, what's up with the Marvel Legends Captain America Red Hulk figure? Is that supposed to look like Harrison Ford, did they mess up or avoid paying likeness rights, or re-use a green hulk head?
I was really excited for this figure. Shame that it came out the way it did. I really wish I knew why a Jaimie Foxx likeness was not offered with this figure. I'm not sure that we can blame Hasbro because we don't know the details behind this decision. Keep in mind, Foxx was hospitalized for what he recently shared was a stroke about 2yrs ago and that could have had an affect on the determination of granting of rights to the toy manufacturer. I don't necessarily believe that Foxx would flatly reject having a toy made in his image because he already has a Django figure that was made by NECA years ago. NECA is a smaller company than Hasbro, so it doesn't seem to me that his asking fee would be so high that Hasbro wouldn't pay it. Maybe the deal couldn't move forward due to timing, legal constraints, or inability to reach a deal. Who knows?
I wonder if a) there’s some situation with the non-MCU Spidey villain contracts which is gumming things up there - Andre Garfield’s Spidey came on an Amazong Spider-Man 2 card rather than No Way Home and Alfred Molina’s Doc Ock was labeled as Spider-Man 2, after all, while Electro’s design is significantly different so may not fall under the same license? Or b) they’ve already established deluxes as the venue for No Way Home villains for everyone else apart from Sandman, so they don’t have a spare sku to slot him into? Not saying I support that, but I can see the business sense in saying “well this is how we’re doing everyone else, just keep that format going”.
Yeah, there was definitely a situation with the contracts. Hasbro likely did not have the likeness rights for Andrew and Alfred regarding No Way Home...but they DID have them for TASM2 and Spider-Man 2, so they had to reach back to those older contracts and use a loophole by labeling the packages "TASM2" and "Spider-Man 2" even though both figures are CLEARLY from No Way Home.
@ that or it was just plain cheaper for them to renew the old contracts rather than get new ones for NWH. You’d think Marvel would have these sorts of merchandising contracts all locked up as standard on films nowadays… perhaps Sony’s not as tight on those things as Marvel/Disney is?
He signed off on the original blue Electro look for ASM2 but that look couldn't be re-used/retro-branded here like Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker or the SM2 Doc Ock. And Scientology isn't behind Cruise's action figure avoidance as John Travolta and Forrest Whittaker both sign-off on toys.
No, he didn't. Not for Hasbro, anyway. The TASM2 Marvel Legends Electro does not utilize his likeness. It looked absolutely NOTHING like Foxx. They've never had the rights to his likeness. Hot Toys does/did, though.
I have no clue why it took _decades_ to get the Wolverine mask. It's just a yellow Batman mask. That's it. It's not like DC could realistically sue Marvel over it either. There have been other characters to wear similar masks (some of whom are in the public domain).
It has nothing to do with legalities. It took decades to get the Wolverine mask in live-action (I'm assuming you're talking about the movies?) because 20th Century Fox simply did not want to use it. They probably thought it wouldn't work. Studios had this idea that comic book costumes would not translate to film and that they had to change it to something that looked more realistic.
@@SlasherIncorporated That's what I'm saying though. We've had proof that the look works because the mask has been used before -- just in a different color. They're telling me a black Batman mask looks great, but a yellow Batman mask would look bad? I don't get Fox and their decisions.
Hot Toys has already made a Jaime Foxx Electro with his exact likeness, 2X now. And Ryan Reynolds has showcased an unmasked headsculpt for both Nicepool and Deadpool with his likeness, again for hot toys. Maybe these actors just dislike crappy Hasbro headsculpts 😂😂😂
Or...maybe Hasbro was unwilling to pay the price they were asking for regarding the use of their likeness. Hot Toys also made Batman '89 Joker figures, and Jack Nicholson is known for charging a hefty price for the use of his likeness. Clearly, money is no issue for Hot Toys. They're willing to pay whatever the actor is charging.
Electro is expensive because poor widdle Hasbro has to pay exorbitant prices for licensing rights also Electro doesn't look like Electro because Hasbro didn't have the licensing rights. At least Baghdad Bob got to wear a beret. You should ask Hasbro for a beret!
It DOESN'T look like Jamie Foxx. It's a generic face. Go look at it again. If you actually think that looks like Foxx, then you may your eyes checked...lol
Are we just gonna casually forget the Jamie’s fox exact likeness that comes with the hot toys figure 😂😂😂 I guess hasbro is not very popular among these actors
It could be that Hasbro wasn't willing to pay what Jamie charges for the use of his likeness, and Hot Toys was. Remember, Hoy Toys also produced Batman '89 Joker figures with Jack Nicholson's likeness...and Nicholson is known for charging an obscene amount for the use of his likeness. Money doesn't seem to be an issue for Hot Toys. They're willing to pay whatever the actors are asking.
@ you have a valid point but that doesn’t excuse that hasbro is one of the largest toy companies period and we aren’t just talking 6inch figures / yet they some how don’t have money in budget to pay for actors likeness and not to mention them having to crowd fund certain figures just so we can have them made ??? Again one of the largest companies out there toy wise
@@northphillyk4176 Being able to pay and being willing to pay are two completely different things. I didn’t say that Hasbro didn’t have the money to afford actors’ likenesses. It’s more of a case of them not wanting to because they view the asking price as being too high and not worth it. Think about it like this: You can probably afford to buy the NWH Electro figure for $35, right? But do you WANT to buy it for that price? Likely not.
Hasbro charging $10 more for a figure because of having to pay royalties for an actor's likeness, only for the figure to not resemble the actor.
Because Hasbro doesn't have the license rights.
But you still have to pay $10 more.
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Very on point for hasblo
Secret Wars Electro 1985 will always be my favorite
It depends if the actor/actresses wants to.
There’s a hot toy Electro with him unmasked. The head sculpt look reasonably like him. It doesn’t look like he is in the Tom Cruise category. Don’t know what happened with Hasbro.
We all know it had to do w money.
@@KyleEckers Yeah, more than likely. Hasbro probably didn't want to pay the price Jamie is asking for regarding the use of his likeness. Hot Toys also produced Batman '89 Joker figures with Jack Nicholson's likeness, so it seems that money is no issue for them. They're willing to pay whatever the actor is asking for.
If the likeness for Jamie Fox is not present, it seems that the figure should cost less. Hasbro didn't actually have to pay for likeness rights for this particular figure.🤷🏽♂️
I figured the reason for there being no swappable unmasked Jamie Foxx head included was due to a likeness rights issue.
To my fellow collectors: When a figure based on a human character from a movie does not look like the actor...it's because of likeness rights. It's not that the company didn't want to give us an unmasked head. Legally, they couldn't. Whether it was because the actor said "no", or they were asking too high a price and the company wasn't willing to pay it. Whatever the case may be, they can't make the figure look like the actor, so they have to cover the face up with a mask/effects and not include an alternate head or give it a generic face that looks absolutely nothing like said actor. Either that, or they just don't make a figure at all.
Spider manses🕷️🕸️😂
Maybe this figure had nothing to do with cost, but I do know that Neca had to pay extra for the likeness rights for Dr. Peter Weller to make an unmasked RoboCop figure. For many years, they could not make an unmasked RoboCop due to Dr. Weller refusing and the sheer cost of obtaining the likeness rights to create such a figure. Recently, he decided to play ball, and Neca was able to release the unmasked figure. They continue to reuse the mold made for RoboCop to recoup the production costs but also the likeness costs.
Yes but in this case you are talking about an older movie where rights are piecemeal. It is very different acquiring rights to older films vs something current. Great thought though!!
A lot of modern films these things are baked in the deal. Nowadays actors have a lot more control of their image. With RoboCop they probably didn’t think they need Peter Weller’s likeness. So cut to today he probably didn’t want to allow his likeness to be used.
I understand actors rights, I get it, I like it, certainly with regard to AI whether that is during the life of an actor or their estate control which I would hope actors begin to stipulate nonuse before they pass.
So why the extra $10 if there is no likeness?
I always wonder if they even know that a figure was being made of them. Like did their agent automatically say no
Hey Scott, what's up with the Marvel Legends Captain America Red Hulk figure? Is that supposed to look like Harrison Ford, did they mess up or avoid paying likeness rights, or re-use a green hulk head?
I was really excited for this figure. Shame that it came out the way it did. I really wish I knew why a Jaimie Foxx likeness was not offered with this figure.
I'm not sure that we can blame Hasbro because we don't know the details behind this decision. Keep in mind, Foxx was hospitalized for what he recently shared was a stroke about 2yrs ago and that could have had an affect on the determination of granting of rights to the toy manufacturer.
I don't necessarily believe that Foxx would flatly reject having a toy made in his image because he already has a Django figure that was made by NECA years ago.
NECA is a smaller company than Hasbro, so it doesn't seem to me that his asking fee would be so high that Hasbro wouldn't pay it.
Maybe the deal couldn't move forward due to timing, legal constraints, or inability to reach a deal. Who knows?
I wonder if a) there’s some situation with the non-MCU Spidey villain contracts which is gumming things up there - Andre Garfield’s Spidey came on an Amazong Spider-Man 2 card rather than No Way Home and Alfred Molina’s Doc Ock was labeled as Spider-Man 2, after all, while Electro’s design is significantly different so may not fall under the same license?
Or b) they’ve already established deluxes as the venue for No Way Home villains for everyone else apart from Sandman, so they don’t have a spare sku to slot him into? Not saying I support that, but I can see the business sense in saying “well this is how we’re doing everyone else, just keep that format going”.
Yeah, there was definitely a situation with the contracts. Hasbro likely did not have the likeness rights for Andrew and Alfred regarding No Way Home...but they DID have them for TASM2 and Spider-Man 2, so they had to reach back to those older contracts and use a loophole by labeling the packages "TASM2" and "Spider-Man 2" even though both figures are CLEARLY from No Way Home.
@ that or it was just plain cheaper for them to renew the old contracts rather than get new ones for NWH. You’d think Marvel would have these sorts of merchandising contracts all locked up as standard on films nowadays… perhaps Sony’s not as tight on those things as Marvel/Disney is?
He signed off on the original blue Electro look for ASM2 but that look couldn't be re-used/retro-branded here like Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker or the SM2 Doc Ock. And Scientology isn't behind Cruise's action figure avoidance as John Travolta and Forrest Whittaker both sign-off on toys.
No, he didn't. Not for Hasbro, anyway. The TASM2 Marvel Legends Electro does not utilize his likeness. It looked absolutely NOTHING like Foxx. They've never had the rights to his likeness. Hot Toys does/did, though.
I have no clue why it took _decades_ to get the Wolverine mask. It's just a yellow Batman mask. That's it. It's not like DC could realistically sue Marvel over it either. There have been other characters to wear similar masks (some of whom are in the public domain).
It has nothing to do with legalities. It took decades to get the Wolverine mask in live-action (I'm assuming you're talking about the movies?) because 20th Century Fox simply did not want to use it. They probably thought it wouldn't work. Studios had this idea that comic book costumes would not translate to film and that they had to change it to something that looked more realistic.
@@SlasherIncorporated That's what I'm saying though. We've had proof that the look works because the mask has been used before -- just in a different color. They're telling me a black Batman mask looks great, but a yellow Batman mask would look bad? I don't get Fox and their decisions.
Hot Toys has already made a Jaime Foxx Electro with his exact likeness, 2X now. And Ryan Reynolds has showcased an unmasked headsculpt for both Nicepool and Deadpool with his likeness, again for hot toys. Maybe these actors just dislike crappy Hasbro headsculpts 😂😂😂
Or...maybe Hasbro was unwilling to pay the price they were asking for regarding the use of their likeness. Hot Toys also made Batman '89 Joker figures, and Jack Nicholson is known for charging a hefty price for the use of his likeness. Clearly, money is no issue for Hot Toys. They're willing to pay whatever the actor is charging.
Electro is expensive because poor widdle Hasbro has to pay exorbitant prices for licensing rights also Electro doesn't look like Electro because Hasbro didn't have the licensing rights.
At least Baghdad Bob got to wear a beret. You should ask Hasbro for a beret!
If that's true why do the first marvel Legends Blue electro from the movie looks like Jamie Fox look at the face sculpt it's just Blue
It DOESN'T look like Jamie Foxx. It's a generic face. Go look at it again. If you actually think that looks like Foxx, then you may your eyes checked...lol
Are we just gonna casually forget the Jamie’s fox exact likeness that comes with the hot toys figure 😂😂😂 I guess hasbro is not very popular among these actors
It could be that Hasbro wasn't willing to pay what Jamie charges for the use of his likeness, and Hot Toys was. Remember, Hoy Toys also produced Batman '89 Joker figures with Jack Nicholson's likeness...and Nicholson is known for charging an obscene amount for the use of his likeness. Money doesn't seem to be an issue for Hot Toys. They're willing to pay whatever the actors are asking.
@ you have a valid point but that doesn’t excuse that hasbro is one of the largest toy companies period and we aren’t just talking 6inch figures / yet they some how don’t have money in budget to pay for actors likeness and not to mention them having to crowd fund certain figures just so we can have them made ??? Again one of the largest companies out there toy wise
@@northphillyk4176 Being able to pay and being willing to pay are two completely different things. I didn’t say that Hasbro didn’t have the money to afford actors’ likenesses. It’s more of a case of them not wanting to because they view the asking price as being too high and not worth it. Think about it like this: You can probably afford to buy the NWH Electro figure for $35, right? But do you WANT to buy it for that price? Likely not.