When I asked if you would do a documentary on the Ghost Zone in the last episode, I didn't think you would get to it so fast. XD Great episode you did not disappoint.
This was awesome! Finally, someone spells out the difference between ghosts and spirits since there are "ghosts" who used to be documented people (or animals in Cujo's case) on Earth.
@@Numbuh8578 Butch Hartman is a great writer who created Danny Phantom and the other series that he wrote for his amazing work with his friends in Nickelodeon, but I have to admit that he doesn’t know how the dead people are doing this right.
funny story back when the show was on air we always knew the difference between ghosts and spirits we try to example to this guy know even to this day he's don't know the difference.
The point I find the most mind-blowing is that, in 5YL at least, the ghost zone is the interdimensional space on the edge of the void, that means that all the different energies, powers, and magics of every fiction combine to become ecto-energy. That means that the powers Danny and Vlad are wielding are the most overwhelmingly overpowered forces ever.
Wouldn’t that not only include mana but other stuff like Chaos Energy from the Archie Sonic comics, Ki from Dragon ball, Demonic Energy from both Devil May Cry and the Dmc reboot which added angelic energy to the mix, Chakra from Naruto, Morphin Grid from the Power Rangers, the Chaotic Realm from Castlevanua which fuels Dracula’s powers and the Uni Power from Marvel?
Now that The Ghost Zone is shown, we will have to wait for the Irken homeworld and the cryptids from Secret Saturday. Maybe even the Fairy Homeworld, Jimmy Neutron space, and the machine world in My life as a teenage robot.
@@elizabethgouverneur2972 depends on the particular multiverse. For example the current DC multiverse only contains 52 earths in total (with a 53rd hidden earth full of primates) whereas the current Marvel Multiverse is infinite. So it depends on the multiverse. Given that this multiverse appears to contain the earths of danny phantom, ben 10, teen titans, Jimmy Neutron, Invader Zim and many others, as well as all alternate dimensions and universes attached to their series, this multiverse is pretty darn large.
So, do The Ghostbusters exist in 5 Years Later? Given all of the cameos in this episode alone it’d be pretty cool for them to be in here as well. Maybe they could’ve inspired Jack’s paranormal research in the first place? I’d imagine him and Ray would be fast friends with their shared endless amazement of the supernatural.
Alex Barnes actually he used the Hands of Armageddon in Zim’s universe, as well as Technus’ and Animo’s knowledge, to craft a giant Ultimatrix based on Albedo’s design.
I doubt that Rex will appear in 5yl. The comic has been out for years now and introducing him now would be too late. He might appear in a flash back but thats it.
That was a MASSIVE curveball. First Ben 10 alien homeworlds and now Danny phantom's Ghost Zone. I have brought the titans of my childhood back and expanded their legacy. Thank you sooooooo much for this and we hope to see more in the future. P.S I the Box Ghost was at the end and put Hoarse in a box.😊 Edit: I think this is the most likes I've gotten on a comment before. Thanks everybody!😁
2:18 Weird how i know every single character that was just shown on screen. - Dibs Dad - Azmuth - Rex's Brother - Jimmy Neutron - Saitama - Beerus - Ravens Dad
They honestly look identical in the silhouette, but I think it might be Rex's brother since I don't know if Kuro would self insert himself in this (I've never read the comic so I could be wrong)
Huh! This analysis made the ghost zone a good deal more tragic than I remember it being. With all these sanctuaries being frail memories and fantasies for ghost to cope with the place. And ghosts like skulkers tech body a desperate attempt to avoid mutations. Makes me wonder where else this place could go! Maybe the Bug Jar from generator Rex? Man of actions finest work IMO.
2:22 I recognize Azmuth, Professor Membrane, Jimmy Neutron, and One Punch Man, but I don't recognize the other three. I think one of them could be Rex from Generator Rex, but I'm not sure...
Trigon from teen titans, Beerus from dragon ball and the last scientist, I'm also not sure, but it probably is Rex's brother, Caesar as he made the Null void projector that led to the Generator Rex Ben Ten crossover, gien that achievement I'd put him at super scientist level along with the rest of them.
@@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 I really think it is Caesar from Generator Rex as Kuro Avatar has a Ultimatrix and a short sleeve shirt with no collar, while Casear's Unifrom has a collar.
That might be Rex's brother.... who did accidentally make a portal to Ben's Null Void once. The other two are Beerus (god of destruction from Dragon Ball franchise) and Trigon (father of Raven and basically a DC analog for Satan for when they don't want to get two obviously religious).
A genuinely educational take on the Ghost Zone. My only question being when Horas listed individuals who attempted but failed to access the ghost zone, why was Teen Titans' Trigon shown? Was that just an easter egg?
Clearly teen titan cartoon version of trigon attempted to enter the ghost zone to no avail. along with Professor membrane, Jimmy Neutron and many other great minds and powerful beings.
You've probably figured this out by now, but I figured I'd explain for any newcomers to the channel scrolling through the comments. The information in this video isn't 100% canon to Danny Phantom. It's canon to Kuro the Artist's Ben 10 and Danny Phantom Crossover Fanfiction "5 Years Later". The implication here is that in Kuro's fanfiction, Trigon, Saitama, Beerus, Professor Membrane, Jimmy Neutron, Azmuth, and Ceasar Salazar from Generator Rex all attempted to access the Ghost Zone and failed.
Unauthorized recording equipment is against the rules..... Why do I feel like Horas was saying that sarcastically as a jab against Walker. I see those shout-outs in those greatest minds and most powerful beings moment. Danny is 20 now? so dose that mean "And Beyond" is 1 year after 5YL, or are you saying that a year passed for DP from start to end? Wait....... is Mr. Lancer Dead now? XD That Klemper ending. XD Also..... Awesome. :)
@@TheInkTank No Prob. :) Oh Yeah, the wiki did say he was 15 at the end... though I forgot how that became official, I don't recall it ever getting brought up in the show itself.
@@13KuriMaster It was never directly stated, but with how much time that had passed in the three seasons, and the fact they show the characters not only having a Summer Vacation (Reality Trip) but move to the next grade, a year would've had to have passed.
Wait so your telling me beerus, one punch man, alien x, and freaking trigon can’t break into the ghost zone!? Dang! I call BS if the living tribunal can’t.
It’s a place that technically exists and technically doesn’t exist... It’s only connected physically to one location in all of the Omniverse, and because of its unique properties, is pretty much invisible everywhere else. One could argue that undiscovered world’s in many different universes could be linked to their own, ‘Ghost-Zones’, though that would be very unlikely.
Technically speaking, is possible that Living Tribunal can't enter the Ghost Zone. Remeber that it isn't even supposed to exist, it's a "glitch" in the fabric of reality, an anomaly that defies all rules and laws. Living Tribunal is a Multiversal Entity, but he only oversees the Main Marvel Multiverse. Even within the Marvel Continuity, there is stuff beyond the reach of Living Tribunal, like The Beyondverse. *HOWEVER* All those Multiversal Entities like Trigon, AlienX and Living Tribunal can still thecnically enter the Ghost Zone. They just need to be in Danny's Dimension, after that it's just a piece of cake to break into it. I mean, if a regular person managed create a Gateway to enter from there, how hard can it be to any of this Reality Warping Gods?
Great video I just want to say I'm a big fan of 5 years later so I love these lore videos you guys keep making Can't wait for more chapters and plenty more of these "And Beyond" vids too 😃👍👍👍
This is amazing! I didn’t know ghosts could evolve like that, and the natives and spirits thing explains pretty much everything! Edit: I thought this we real when I first watched.
They just made that up. Everything Butch Hartman has described about the series and what ghosts actually are completely contradict this. This is just their own headcannon. Butch has said on many occasions that ghosts aren't the deceased, but rather just beings from another dimension
I like the Jimmy Neutron and Trigon references they do when his talking about how great minds and powerful beings are incapable of creating portals to the ghost zone.
I would like to see some backstory on how some if the ghost died, I know butch said that the ghost aren't dead but monster's from another world but there are some ghost in the show confirmed to be dead, examples are Sydney Poindexter((who went to the same school danny goes to when he was human)) desire the genie ghost and ember mclain as said by a director on the show. It's possible there are different types of ghost, if I were to reboot danny phantom I would make this clear so people don't get confused. This would have some cool story idea's like Danny fails to save a life and their ghost comes back for revenge.
Wait what would happen if a real ghost possessed an ectoneurite? Could they even do that or would they fly right through eachother… of bump into eachother because they are both intangible?
Depends on what qualifies as a "real" ghost for you. As there are a lot of different versions and interpretations of Ghosts and for most of them we don't really know as much about them as we do Ectonurites.
@@luke769animations ahhhh. Good question then. I honestly dont know. However. In my mind I think they are both capable of possessing the other. They'll probably have to strike fast though. And I think either can break out of the control of the other if they have enough willpower to overthrow them. When it comes to who has more willpower. I think in general Ectonurites will have more willpower. As they have to worry about more things like being in sunlight. While the Ghosts from the Ghost Zone seem more carefree in contrast and seem to have their sense of humor fully intact. And just as a guess from that one episode where Ben and gang travel to Ghostfreaks home. The inhabitants seemed. Less cheerful. And more serious about immediate threats. While a ghost might crack a joke. I know you'd probably like a response from someone smarter, willing to do actual research or just wanted to hear from Kuro and the others but I wanted to throw my two cents in even if I am massively inaccurate.
I always presumed that the Ghost Zone was sort of like Purgatory, where all spirits who still had unfinished business in the human world are doomed to remain until said business is fulfilled. Then, we got introduced to the likes of Frostbite and Undergrowth, "Ghost-like" beings who have no former human forms or human lives of any kind
Proffesor Membrane (Purple/Magenta) Either (Blue): -Kuro, due to the hair and color or -Ceasar Salazar, Rex's Brother who created Alpha and found a way to enter the Null Void
For anyone wondering who each of the silhouettes are at 2:08, they are (left to right) Professor Membrane, Azmuth, Ceaser Salazar, Jimmy Neutron, Saitama, Trigon, and finally Beerus.
With all the ice related shenanigans at the end there, my prediction is we will either see Big Chill or Arctiguana's home planet next. Personally, I hope it's Arctiguana
This video gave me ideas for my own Ghostzone inhabitant or well repurposing an old character design for this new idea because I think it would be rad. Now the problem of finding someone to Commission it too I think Ash said Kuro maybe down for Ghostzone characters but I guess I might have to ask Kuro himself to see if he would be up for that.
The native and spirt explanations and that second life thing explains box lunch's existence now they're my head canon for ghosts of the Danny phantom universe too it really makes sense
Cel Confitech yes that is the contemelia ship remember they create universes so makes sense also 👏👏 can’t believe the ink tank actually put that there that’s some attention to Easter egg
1:43, Nice touch creating the distinction that every universe and timeline in this continuity is described as being contained within its own dimension, it’s own corner of existence, which by extension links with Ben’s reality describing an “onniverse”, a collection of different individual multiverses, 2:06, suggesting other franchise realms are cordoned off to their own corner of this omniverse. 5:35, It’s also fascinating the amount of depth that is being mined from the Ghost Zone, from just how versatile Ecto-Energy is in its many forms, 5:52, the nature and evolution (7:43, including the corruption of mortal spirits, which can also be used to explain Vlad’s ghost form being more monstrous, as Episode 2 suggested his ghost form used to resemble more of his human form before his rage and despair at seemingly being abandoned by Jack and losing his chance with Madeline, 7:54, or “transcendence” of some native ghosts like Clockwork) of the ghosts themselves as well as their various attributes and abilities, 6:17, how some “native” ghosts kind of resemble Curse Spirits from Jujutsu Kaisen or Devil’s from Chainsaw Man in being sentient embodiments of concepts, 8:49, and how they affect their environment to create the strange and surreal objects and structures seen across the dimension. The original series never really went as deep into these kinds of details, mostly just leaving them in the background or focusing more on the stories it was telling than the world building, but that also means the grounds to expand on these details was always there.
I'm not sure what you are planning next for And Beyond, but I personally would love a closer look as Anur Khufos. As far as I know we have never actually gottwn much information about the planets in the Anur system other than Anur Transyl. Just a thought, love this series btw, love ya bai
I would love to see a in depth explanation on waybigs home planet because I’ve always wonder how creatures so big could like plausible function in a society
Beautiful A better lore explanation than the original creator himself did (No disrespect to Mr. Hartman whatsoever), and certainly can still be applicable to the OG cannon I wonder if there's gonna be more Nicktoon's worlds lore for "And Beyond"?
We need more videos like this for other cartoon worlds it will keep your page successful with the algorithm and blow you to another level because stuff like this is interesting⚡️
You kinda missed somethings of the ghost zone. Like for one this ultra rare phenomenon which what happens when 2 or more sanctuaries merge together. This happens very rarely but when two or more sanctuaries merge, they create a 'black hole' like phenomenon. But only happens very rarely. And there two alternate world's of the ghost zone those are searching or are trying to avoid. The first is the utopian realm where a man whose journal has the clues to find it. While the unworld, an unknown nightmare realm, when you're calculations are even the slightest off, you'll get trapped and lost in forever. It's from a video of guy moon, or butch hartmam or something. The guy who created the show I think. Just thought you should know.
2:21 / 11:50 Red is jimmy Another red is raven's dad Purple one is from dragonballz Yellow is one punch man Blue must be rex's brother Green is azmuth who is that pink guy
I really felt like we’ve been starved for the Danny Phantom content half of 5YL. Any more of this or some kind of video on Pariah Dark vs. Dark Danny or whatever would be just aces.
I love the lore this adds and builds upon so much. The ink tank have done so well with the world building of 5yl. I do have some questions if anyone can help answer: -Do all ghosts mutate from corruption or is it just the Spirits? Wasn't too sure but it could work for both -And with the corruption, is ecto energy inherently evil? Or do Spirits become corrupt due to overwhelming power they can't mentally control causing them to be feral as they 'age' and grow in power?
Glad you love the series! - Natives are technically already corrupt, but Ecto Energy is constantly in a state of evolution. - Evil is relative. They become insane. What they do from there is just a warped perspective of who they really are.
Okay I developed a Theory concerning the Ghost Zone and the Ben 10 Lore. We know of Ectonurites and there homeworld is known as Anur Phaetos. We know very little about it in the main timeline but in one of the Video Games, it’s shown to be an alternate dimension rather then a Planet. Now since we never actually see Anur Phaetos in the show itself, it’s not entirely been proven as Canon in the Original Continuity. However for the sake of this Theory and some consistency, I’m gonna say Anur Phaetos being an Alternate Dimension is true. Now given that Ectonurites are incredibly similar to ghosts and are a Species that are stated to be Alive in a different sense then most life in the Ben 10 Universe, is it possible that Anur Phaetos is the Ben 10 universes’ equivalent to the Ghost Zone? I mean they both have forms of "life" unlike anything else in there respective universes with incredibly unique abilities, are dark alternate dimensions, and seem to be mostly void with bits of floating terrain. They even seem to have portals opening frequently since Anur Phaetos is connected to Ben's Dimension and the Ghost Zone randomly opens portals frequently. I believe it's even been said no ones been able to return from Anur Phaetos and it's a great mystery of the galaxy like the Ghost Zone was before Jack went and invented artificial portals to the place. I think that while the Ghost Zone is connected to the Earth in Danny's Universe, Anur Phaetos might be connected to some section of the Anur System or possibly that whole solar system. They both even have hooded beings who wield scythes in combat and seem to be incredibly powerful compared to there fellows (Z'skayr and Clockwork). I hope that if they do an episode on Anur Phaetos that these similarities are addressed. I know that Anur Phaetos being an alternate dimension is only shown in a non-canon game, but it seems to be our only clue to it's nature really since we know next to nothing about it in the mainstream canon.
@@Master_E444 except this dimensions you explain like anur phaetos and the ghost zone are only second degree realms compare to the celestial spirit world which in metaphor is a higher dimension and its inhabitance are the 12 constellations with very unique sets of magic that could even terminate ghost like ghostfreak and vlad plasmius so there.
Did I see trigon, Saitama, beerus, asmuth, jimmy neutron, the professor from invader zim and some other guy, i am so ready for some dragon ball universe species home worlds, could you do namekians homeworld next
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Given Jack's characterization, it's easy to forget that he is actually a brilliant scientist within his specific field.
I never asked for an in-depth analysis of the ghost zone, but I am glad I have it. This is the coolest episode so far.... Or should I say Spookiest
I DID!
it's like the warp from warhammer 40k
No you shouldn't but it was good
@@darthjekyll3648 yes but more powerful.
@@darthjekyll3648 and less complex
When I asked if you would do a documentary on the Ghost Zone in the last episode, I didn't think you would get to it so fast. XD
Great episode you did not disappoint.
Lol they were probably doing research way before u asked and got it all done the day asked.
@@daikon3199 let them have their Moment
It almost annoys me how fucking good you guys are at seamlessly blending together these different universes. Fuckin awesome
This was awesome! Finally, someone spells out the difference between ghosts and spirits since there are "ghosts" who used to be documented people (or animals in Cujo's case) on Earth.
Its sad when even the creator of Danny phantom failed to do this.
He did a better job then what butch Hartman ever could
@@Numbuh8578 Butch Hartman is a great writer who created Danny Phantom and the other series that he wrote for his amazing work with his friends in Nickelodeon, but I have to admit that he doesn’t know how the dead people are doing this right.
funny story back when the show was on air we always knew the difference between ghosts and spirits we try to example to this guy know even to this day he's don't know the difference.
The point I find the most mind-blowing is that, in 5YL at least, the ghost zone is the interdimensional space on the edge of the void, that means that all the different energies, powers, and magics of every fiction combine to become ecto-energy. That means that the powers Danny and Vlad are wielding are the most overwhelmingly overpowered forces ever.
Wouldn’t that not only include mana but other stuff like Chaos Energy from the Archie Sonic comics, Ki from Dragon ball, Demonic Energy from both Devil May Cry and the Dmc reboot which added angelic energy to the mix, Chakra from Naruto, Morphin Grid from the Power Rangers, the Chaotic Realm from Castlevanua which fuels Dracula’s powers and the Uni Power from Marvel?
@@hattoripool1533 yes, and more.
@@demvian9780 I just realized that this would also include Necroplasm from the Spawn franchise which has a few similarities to Ecto energy
Speed Force? Emotional Spectrum?
@@omniforce279 Reishi from Bleach
Now that The Ghost Zone is shown, we will have to wait for the Irken homeworld and the cryptids from Secret Saturday. Maybe even the Fairy Homeworld, Jimmy Neutron space, and the machine world in My life as a teenage robot.
Really depends how massive this multiverse is
Hey the token home world is called irk and I can't wait to see horus interact with g.I.r, s.I.r, or c.I.r
TheFVguy the multiverse is infinite
@@elizabethgouverneur2972 depends on the particular multiverse. For example the current DC multiverse only contains 52 earths in total (with a 53rd hidden earth full of primates) whereas the current Marvel Multiverse is infinite. So it depends on the multiverse.
Given that this multiverse appears to contain the earths of danny phantom, ben 10, teen titans, Jimmy Neutron, Invader Zim and many others, as well as all alternate dimensions and universes attached to their series, this multiverse is pretty darn large.
not to mention that this could actually be an omniverse rather than a single multiverse
So, do The Ghostbusters exist in 5 Years Later? Given all of the cameos in this episode alone it’d be pretty cool for them to be in here as well. Maybe they could’ve inspired Jack’s paranormal research in the first place? I’d imagine him and Ray would be fast friends with their shared endless amazement of the supernatural.
So there is no limit as to how much power can a ghost have.
I think I know what Eons big plan is.
@Jay-john Derbyshire You mean how he Merged himself with his dark half?
Nah, then Danny could just thermos him.
Yes there is, cuz Butch said if characters didn't have limits to their powers they would be unstoppable, so ALL characters must have limits.
Eon will commit unalive.
Alex Barnes actually he used the Hands of Armageddon in Zim’s universe, as well as Technus’ and Animo’s knowledge, to craft a giant Ultimatrix based on Albedo’s design.
Guys, you should make a video exploring Generator Rex's Universe!
I doubt that Rex will appear in 5yl. The comic has been out for years now and introducing him now would be too late. He might appear in a flash back but thats it.
Donatas Jor I mean, nanites
Agree!
THIS THIS 1,000 TIMES THIS
It’s nearly the same as Ben’s Universe, but with nanites.
That was a MASSIVE curveball. First Ben 10 alien homeworlds and now Danny phantom's Ghost Zone. I have brought the titans of my childhood back and expanded their legacy. Thank you sooooooo much for this and we hope to see more in the future. P.S I the Box Ghost was at the end and put Hoarse in a box.😊 Edit: I think this is the most likes I've gotten on a comment before. Thanks everybody!😁
2:18 Weird how i know every single character that was just shown on screen.
- Dibs Dad
- Azmuth
- Rex's Brother
- Jimmy Neutron
- Saitama
- Beerus
- Ravens Dad
I think thats kuro
@@0000-q3g which one?
Adrian Rangel the blue one
They honestly look identical in the silhouette, but I think it might be Rex's brother since I don't know if Kuro would self insert himself in this (I've never read the comic so I could be wrong)
Raven’s father is Trigon
Huh! This analysis made the ghost zone a good deal more tragic than I remember it being. With all these sanctuaries being frail memories and fantasies for ghost to cope with the place. And ghosts like skulkers tech body a desperate attempt to avoid mutations.
Makes me wonder where else this place could go! Maybe the Bug Jar from generator Rex? Man of actions finest work IMO.
F for the Post-Alpha Bug Jar
@@jvbon646 F
Jero Valentin F, the Bug Jar did nit deserve its collapse
2:22 I recognize Azmuth, Professor Membrane, Jimmy Neutron, and One Punch Man, but I don't recognize the other three. I think one of them could be Rex from Generator Rex, but I'm not sure...
Trigon from teen titans, Beerus from dragon ball and the last scientist, I'm also not sure, but it probably is Rex's brother, Caesar as he made the Null void projector that led to the Generator Rex Ben Ten crossover, gien that achievement I'd put him at super scientist level along with the rest of them.
Triton, Beerus and Kuro himself
@@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 I really think it is Caesar from Generator Rex as Kuro Avatar has a Ultimatrix and a short sleeve shirt with no collar, while Casear's Unifrom has a collar.
That might be Rex's brother.... who did accidentally make a portal to Ben's Null Void once. The other two are Beerus (god of destruction from Dragon Ball franchise) and Trigon (father of Raven and basically a DC analog for Satan for when they don't want to get two obviously religious).
I'm guessing it is the professor from powerpuff girls
I'm so happy someone still talks about Danny phantom. It was my favorite TV show
Ever since butch lost his mind I've wondered who could bring this stuff back from the dead. Now I know!
A genuinely educational take on the Ghost Zone. My only question being when Horas listed individuals who attempted but failed to access the ghost zone, why was Teen Titans' Trigon shown? Was that just an easter egg?
Nope. He tried to get in it's suggested. He likes to conquer
Clearly teen titan cartoon version of trigon attempted to enter the ghost zone to no avail. along with Professor membrane, Jimmy Neutron and many other great minds and powerful beings.
@@locten4949 Yep
@@locten4949 yep that was them I thought the same thing when I saw it
You've probably figured this out by now, but I figured I'd explain for any newcomers to the channel scrolling through the comments. The information in this video isn't 100% canon to Danny Phantom. It's canon to Kuro the Artist's Ben 10 and Danny Phantom Crossover Fanfiction "5 Years Later". The implication here is that in Kuro's fanfiction, Trigon, Saitama, Beerus, Professor Membrane, Jimmy Neutron, Azmuth, and Ceasar Salazar from Generator Rex all attempted to access the Ghost Zone and failed.
Unauthorized recording equipment is against the rules..... Why do I feel like Horas was saying that sarcastically as a jab against Walker.
I see those shout-outs in those greatest minds and most powerful beings moment.
Danny is 20 now? so dose that mean "And Beyond" is 1 year after 5YL, or are you saying that a year passed for DP from start to end?
Wait....... is Mr. Lancer Dead now?
XD That Klemper ending. XD
Also..... Awesome. :)
Thanks for all the Feedback! Yes, Danny is 15 at the end of his series, so he would be 20 in 5YL.
@@TheInkTank No Prob. :)
Oh Yeah, the wiki did say he was 15 at the end... though I forgot how that became official, I don't recall it ever getting brought up in the show itself.
@@13KuriMaster It was never directly stated, but with how much time that had passed in the three seasons, and the fact they show the characters not only having a Summer Vacation (Reality Trip) but move to the next grade, a year would've had to have passed.
@@TheInkTank Fair enough.
I totally didn’t catch that
I wonder if horas will be possessed by technus or not
Well technus is currently in Zim,s dimension controlling some alternate bens so he,s not there currently to be able to.
Who knows!
@@MonsterKing_97 good point
He was V04 in the last video, and then had purple eyes. Thinking that the model from methanos is
Did anybody notice Horas is an anogram for Orash
5:00. Time can’t pass fast enough.
Here’s to hoping that ghosts are actual dead people and demons in 5YL.
There are ghost in danny phantom that are dead
Examples: desiree the ghost genie, Sydney Poindexter and ember mclain((as said by a director))
There According to this video and Danny Phantom wiki
@@guardianknight5417 ignore what butch Hartman said and only on silver
I so glad that there's a video that goes into depth about such an often times confusing place in fiction.
Wait so your telling me beerus, one punch man, alien x, and freaking trigon can’t break into the ghost zone!? Dang!
I call BS if the living tribunal can’t.
It’s a place that technically exists and technically doesn’t exist... It’s only connected physically to one location in all of the Omniverse, and because of its unique properties, is pretty much invisible everywhere else.
One could argue that undiscovered world’s in many different universes could be linked to their own, ‘Ghost-Zones’, though that would be very unlikely.
Technically speaking, is possible that Living Tribunal can't enter the Ghost Zone. Remeber that it isn't even supposed to exist, it's a "glitch" in the fabric of reality, an anomaly that defies all rules and laws.
Living Tribunal is a Multiversal Entity, but he only oversees the Main Marvel Multiverse. Even within the Marvel Continuity, there is stuff beyond the reach of Living Tribunal, like The Beyondverse.
*HOWEVER*
All those Multiversal Entities like Trigon, AlienX and Living Tribunal can still thecnically enter the Ghost Zone. They just need to be in Danny's Dimension, after that it's just a piece of cake to break into it. I mean, if a regular person managed create a Gateway to enter from there, how hard can it be to any of this Reality Warping Gods?
Jero Valentin fair point
Marqus Medina I see trigon asmuth one punch man , jimmy neutron and beerus but where is alien x
Ultimate pirate Hakimara he’s not it just popped into my head that eon might’ve been alluding to that.
Great video
I just want to say I'm a big fan of 5 years later so I love these lore videos you guys keep making
Can't wait for more chapters and plenty more of these "And Beyond" vids too 😃👍👍👍
This is amazing!
I didn’t know ghosts could evolve like that, and the natives and spirits thing explains pretty much everything!
Edit: I thought this we real when I first watched.
They just made that up. Everything Butch Hartman has described about the series and what ghosts actually are completely contradict this. This is just their own headcannon.
Butch has said on many occasions that ghosts aren't the deceased, but rather just beings from another dimension
@@askthetruth5574 And that's what Pandora, the ghost king, the observers and Clockwork is. They are " the beings from another dimension. "
@@askthetruth5574 which is stupid because Ember, Johnny and that bullied kid obviously died
@@askthetruth5574 that may be true but their headcanon is much more fascinating.
@@mavrickhunt9218 I cannot deny that this is well thought it
Someone should show this to butch Hartman, this can show that not all ghost are dead but doesn't retcon what we've learned from the show.
I like the Jimmy Neutron and Trigon references they do when his talking about how great minds and powerful beings are incapable of creating portals to the ghost zone.
4:09 the freakn’ soda. Your knowledge of the canon is so on point.
Lol when the fans cares clearly put more effort into explaing something then the Creator
I would like to see some backstory on how some if the ghost died,
I know butch said that the ghost aren't dead but monster's from another world but there are some ghost in the show confirmed to be dead, examples are Sydney Poindexter((who went to the same school danny goes to when he was human)) desire the genie ghost and ember mclain as said by a director on the show.
It's possible there are different types of ghost, if I were to reboot danny phantom I would make this clear so people don't get confused. This would have some cool story idea's like Danny fails to save a life and their ghost comes back for revenge.
Wait what would happen if a real ghost possessed an ectoneurite? Could they even do that or would they fly right through eachother… of bump into eachother because they are both intangible?
Depends on what qualifies as a "real" ghost for you. As there are a lot of different versions and interpretations of Ghosts and for most of them we don't really know as much about them as we do Ectonurites.
Well what would happen to an ectoneurite if it gets stuck in the Ghost Zone?
@@luke769animations ahhhh. Good question then. I honestly dont know. However. In my mind I think they are both capable of possessing the other. They'll probably have to strike fast though. And I think either can break out of the control of the other if they have enough willpower to overthrow them.
When it comes to who has more willpower. I think in general Ectonurites will have more willpower.
As they have to worry about more things like being in sunlight.
While the Ghosts from the Ghost Zone seem more carefree in contrast and seem to have their sense of humor fully intact.
And just as a guess from that one episode where Ben and gang travel to Ghostfreaks home. The inhabitants seemed. Less cheerful. And more serious about immediate threats. While a ghost might crack a joke.
I know you'd probably like a response from someone smarter, willing to do actual research or just wanted to hear from Kuro and the others but I wanted to throw my two cents in even if I am massively inaccurate.
I'd say they could, ghosts have possessed ghosts before in show
It would be cool if they fuse together
I always presumed that the Ghost Zone was sort of like Purgatory, where all spirits who still had unfinished business in the human world are doomed to remain until said business is fulfilled.
Then, we got introduced to the likes of Frostbite and Undergrowth, "Ghost-like" beings who have no former human forms or human lives of any kind
same back than we knew the difference between ghosts and spirits we thought the spirits are a native to purgatory like every planet or dimensions.
Wait, 2:20.
So, does this confirm that the universes of Jimmy Neutron, One Punch Man, DC and Dragonball are in the same multiverse?!
And real life with kuro
Yes yes it dose
D.C and dbz are not the og dc and dbz these versions are alternate well versions
Well Jimmy Neutron had a few video game crossovers with Danny Phantom
Finally a Danny Phantom related video
You guys talk about Ben 10 a little too much
Glad to see Danny finally getting into the spotlight 👍
Five Years Later features Ben 10 too, though
it was previously a Ben 10 base channel so.... thts to be expected
I know I love Ben 10 too but I think they tend to focus on the Ben 10 side of things a lot so its refreshing to see a different kind of video on Danny
2:20
On the Right: Saitama, Beerus andTrigon
On the Left: Azmuth, Jimmy Neutron ... who are the other two?
On the far left is Dib’s father
Proffesor Membrane (Purple/Magenta)
Either (Blue):
-Kuro, due to the hair and color or
-Ceasar Salazar, Rex's Brother who created Alpha and found a way to enter the Null Void
Jero Valentin yes I think it’s Rex’s brother
For anyone wondering who each of the silhouettes are at 2:08, they are (left to right) Professor Membrane, Azmuth, Ceaser Salazar, Jimmy Neutron, Saitama, Trigon, and finally Beerus.
10:11 I half expected Technus to leap through that door going “WHICH OF YOU FOOLS STOLE MY-!”
This is done so amazingly.
3:26
Damn Jack
Look good
Does this mean he has knees now?
This is HIGH quality work. This borders on a Toonami+ level sequence that could be shown as interstitial for the show.
These are some of the things we look for in cartoons when we get older a deeper depth to everything and the mystery of it all great video‼️
I feel like this needs a part two
Beerus and Trigon must be pretty frustrated that not even THEY can access a world like this
With all the ice related shenanigans at the end there, my prediction is we will either see Big Chill or Arctiguana's home planet next. Personally, I hope it's Arctiguana
This is the beginning...you have a long journey ahead...
Just dont forget your supporters
8:49 it's incredible how dark and deep it got
Horas: That’s against the rules.
Me: And that’s a Walker reference!
Huh. Nice theory about the origins of the Ghost Zone. I'm impressed.
This video gave me ideas for my own Ghostzone inhabitant or well repurposing an old character design for this new idea because I think it would be rad.
Now the problem of finding someone to Commission it too I think Ash said Kuro maybe down for Ghostzone characters but I guess I might have to ask Kuro himself to see if he would be up for that.
The native and spirt explanations and that second life thing explains box lunch's existence now they're my head canon for ghosts of the Danny phantom universe too it really makes sense
Hey is that a contemelia ship on the right side of 2:43
Cel Confitech yes that is the contemelia ship remember they create universes so makes sense also 👏👏 can’t believe the ink tank actually put that there that’s some attention to Easter egg
Echo Echo’s Homeplanet Plz?
The ENCRYPT!C yes echo echo is the best
I'd love to see goop
Your wish has been granted!
Echo ehco is the best
Please send horus to the distortion world
I also like how you added the Scarlett king
You used The school principal ! 😂😂🤣🤣
Lancer is dead hahahahahahahahaahhahahahha
Uh, what should I do if ghostly characteristics start manifesting after this trip to the Ghost-Zone?
John find some ghost gauntlets and rip out ya soul
Ultimate pirate Hakimara, that’s not exactly a solution...
@@JohnDoe-hr4cf yes it is as long as there's a portal nearby to yeet your soul into
mimichu But I’d kinda be dead, cause of the whole ‘Rip out ya soul’ part, which defeats the purpose of the ‘cure’.
@@JohnDoe-hr4cf well it doesn't actually rip out your soul as with Danny it just kinda separated his two Half's so yes it's a perfect cure
Nice, this was awesome to see how you guys set up the story and events and works of the ghost zone for the purpose of this cross-over fan comic :D
Finally information on my favorite ghostly dimension
Ok this is my very first time actually learning something about DannyF in the first place. And this in depth analysis is awesome
1:43, Nice touch creating the distinction that every universe and timeline in this continuity is described as being contained within its own dimension, it’s own corner of existence, which by extension links with Ben’s reality describing an “onniverse”, a collection of different individual multiverses, 2:06, suggesting other franchise realms are cordoned off to their own corner of this omniverse.
5:35, It’s also fascinating the amount of depth that is being mined from the Ghost Zone, from just how versatile Ecto-Energy is in its many forms, 5:52, the nature and evolution (7:43, including the corruption of mortal spirits, which can also be used to explain Vlad’s ghost form being more monstrous, as Episode 2 suggested his ghost form used to resemble more of his human form before his rage and despair at seemingly being abandoned by Jack and losing his chance with Madeline, 7:54, or “transcendence” of some native ghosts like Clockwork) of the ghosts themselves as well as their various attributes and abilities, 6:17, how some “native” ghosts kind of resemble Curse Spirits from Jujutsu Kaisen or Devil’s from Chainsaw Man in being sentient embodiments of concepts, 8:49, and how they affect their environment to create the strange and surreal objects and structures seen across the dimension. The original series never really went as deep into these kinds of details, mostly just leaving them in the background or focusing more on the stories it was telling than the world building, but that also means the grounds to expand on these details was always there.
I'm not sure what you are planning next for And Beyond, but I personally would love a closer look as Anur Khufos. As far as I know we have never actually gottwn much information about the planets in the Anur system other than Anur Transyl. Just a thought, love this series btw, love ya bai
I would love to see a in depth explanation on waybigs home planet because I’ve always wonder how creatures so big could like plausible function in a society
They are born in, and inhabit celestial storms.
Beautiful
A better lore explanation than the original creator himself did (No disrespect to Mr. Hartman whatsoever), and certainly can still be applicable to the OG cannon
I wonder if there's gonna be more Nicktoon's worlds lore for "And Beyond"?
2:21 Now if Jimmy Neutron doesn't appear in 5yl I'm gonna riot.
A Nicktoons Reunite perhaps?
Wonder if the events are even canon to 5yl?
2:22 is that blue guy Kuro the Artist or Generator Rex’s brother, Caesar?
My money’s on Caesar.
The wiki can confirm that that is indeed Cesear
6:43 hmmmmmmmmm those skeletons seem familier
victor: how about i eat the dimention with my body of the VOID
Wait...are universes like Jimmy Neutron, Teen Titans, DBZ, and One Punch Man canon to 5YL?
3:19 I remember that. Scared the hell out of me as a kid.
Nice video.
You should of made the portal green for this episode, it would be so awesome and perfect
I love your explanation of spirits and natives. It just make sense with ember being a human girl
10:10
You mean to tell me that Danny Phantom could EASILY do a crossover with Monsters Inc.???
Be interesting to see a video on Rath’s homeworld or even some insight on Stinkfly and Wildvine’s planets
We need more videos like this for other cartoon worlds it will keep your page successful with the algorithm and blow you to another level because stuff like this is interesting⚡️
Great vid makes more sense and your explanation and documentation on the GZ so good keep up the great work
i like how the greatest minds are: asmuth, profesor membarne, jimmy neutron and fucking kuro the artist
Actually, that's Ceasar Salazar from Generator Rex, not Kuro
@@sketchydude8431 damn it... But would be a fun thing to do as an Easter egg.
This was so cool! I love it
2:21 wow saitama must be a genius
Hayatımız oyun- gogokafa no he is in the group of strong beings
You kinda missed somethings of the ghost zone. Like for one this ultra rare phenomenon which what happens when 2 or more sanctuaries merge together. This happens very rarely but when two or more sanctuaries merge, they create a 'black hole' like phenomenon. But only happens very rarely. And there two alternate world's of the ghost zone those are searching or are trying to avoid. The first is the utopian realm where a man whose journal has the clues to find it. While the unworld, an unknown nightmare realm, when you're calculations are even the slightest off, you'll get trapped and lost in forever. It's from a video of guy moon, or butch hartmam or something. The guy who created the show I think. Just thought you should know.
That's not canon.
@@gekds really?
Chapter 11 will be Fascinating
wow this was cool
2:21 / 11:50 Red is jimmy Another red is raven's dad Purple one is from dragonballz Yellow is one punch man Blue must be rex's brother Green is azmuth who is that pink guy
He’s Dibs dad from the Invader zim series
Man. I can't believe Mr. Lancer's fucking dead.
i love that you got jimmy in there as a easter egg. nice touch
Idk why I laughed when HORAS said "That's against the rules"
2:20 I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.
I love the "jump scare" at 6:40
2:19
Nice to see Jimmy Neutron is one of the smartest beings to exist
I really felt like we’ve been starved for the Danny Phantom content half of 5YL. Any more of this or some kind of video on Pariah Dark vs. Dark Danny or whatever would be just aces.
You ain't getting enough views for the work your putting in keep up the hustle
Love this series
2:19 I recognize several of these characters.
The ghost zone has endless possibilities.
Like Danny said in prisons of love "it just goes on forever"
We all gonna ignore Jimmy Neutron as a part of "the greatest minds" at 2:19
God i love this series so much... it's so awesome to learn more of the world you're putting in your comic and stuff. Pls give me more 😍
WAS THAT PAPYRUS AND SANS AT 6:49
I wonder if there is anything else you guys can teach us about the Danny Phantom world. I’ve never seen the show so I don’t know anything about it
2:23 beerus and Saitama are a nice touch there
I love the lore this adds and builds upon so much. The ink tank have done so well with the world building of 5yl.
I do have some questions if anyone can help answer:
-Do all ghosts mutate from corruption or is it just the Spirits? Wasn't too sure but it could work for both
-And with the corruption, is ecto energy inherently evil? Or do Spirits become corrupt due to overwhelming power they can't mentally control causing them to be feral as they 'age' and grow in power?
Glad you love the series! - Natives are technically already corrupt, but Ecto Energy is constantly in a state of evolution.
- Evil is relative. They become insane. What they do from there is just a warped perspective of who they really are.
The Ink Tank Thank you for clarifying! That makes more sense now
Okay I developed a Theory concerning the Ghost Zone and the Ben 10 Lore. We know of Ectonurites and there homeworld is known as Anur Phaetos. We know very little about it in the main timeline but in one of the Video Games, it’s shown to be an alternate dimension rather then a Planet. Now since we never actually see Anur Phaetos in the show itself, it’s not entirely been proven as Canon in the Original Continuity. However for the sake of this Theory and some consistency, I’m gonna say Anur Phaetos being an Alternate Dimension is true.
Now given that Ectonurites are incredibly similar to ghosts and are a Species that are stated to be Alive in a different sense then most life in the Ben 10 Universe, is it possible that Anur Phaetos is the Ben 10 universes’ equivalent to the Ghost Zone? I mean they both have forms of "life" unlike anything else in there respective universes with incredibly unique abilities, are dark alternate dimensions, and seem to be mostly void with bits of floating terrain.
They even seem to have portals opening frequently since Anur Phaetos is connected to Ben's Dimension and the Ghost Zone randomly opens portals frequently. I believe it's even been said no ones been able to return from Anur Phaetos and it's a great mystery of the galaxy like the Ghost Zone was before Jack went and invented artificial portals to the place. I think that while the Ghost Zone is connected to the Earth in Danny's Universe, Anur Phaetos might be connected to some section of the Anur System or possibly that whole solar system. They both even have hooded beings who wield scythes in combat and seem to be incredibly powerful compared to there fellows (Z'skayr and Clockwork).
I hope that if they do an episode on Anur Phaetos that these similarities are addressed. I know that Anur Phaetos being an alternate dimension is only shown in a non-canon game, but it seems to be our only clue to it's nature really since we know next to nothing about it in the mainstream canon.
You make a very plausible case.🤔
@@mavrickhunt9218 thanks man.
No problem. I'm always open to a new interesting theory.
@@mavrickhunt9218 thanks man. Good to know people enjoy such a theory.
@@Master_E444 except this dimensions you explain like anur phaetos and the ghost zone are only second degree realms compare to the celestial spirit world which in metaphor is a higher dimension and its inhabitance are the 12 constellations with very unique sets of magic that could even terminate ghost like ghostfreak and vlad plasmius so there.
Did I see trigon,
Saitama, beerus, asmuth, jimmy neutron, the professor from invader zim and some other guy, i am so ready for some dragon ball universe species home worlds, could you do namekians homeworld next
Well you at least get Krypton and Planet Vegeta in 5YL