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Mysteries in my Victorian Family Photos: How to Date Fashion History

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    If you've inherited a stack of family photographs, or built up your own from antique stores, you'll have wondered what untold stories lie within them. Uncovering them can be as simple as putting dates to the captured scene! So, how do we date antique photographs? With a little bit of basic family history (really just birthdates and a few weddings) I managed to dig up a couple of fun stories about my own family.
    Thankfully there are some ways to help narrow down a date range pretty quickly. Most importantly, what type of photograph is it? The vast majority will be the type printed on paper and pasted to cardboard. Early daguerrotypes are rare (notable as you have to be at an angle to see the image well), but are likely to be in the 1840s or 50s range. Tin types overlap a bit and run later, but as we reach the 1880s dry plate printing and other advances make photography much easier and affordable. This really is where most collections pick up, with posed studio photos at their peak between 1880 and the 1910s. As cameras become more readily available to laypeople in the 1920s and onwards, the style changes to be images of captured moments out and about, rather than carefully posed in a studio.
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  • @NicoleRudolph
    @NicoleRudolph  2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

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    • @sallyk7363
      @sallyk7363 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those graduation outfits do not look like they're from 1919s they would have evolved into more Sleek Lines by then with shorter (ankle length) skirts and without the big sleeves and the big skirts it looks more like the Styles worn between 1899 and 1909

  • @CraftQueenJr
    @CraftQueenJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +478

    I think the matching dresses with best friend thing is about as peak 12-14 age range as it’s actually possible to get.

    • @cam4636
      @cam4636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      People have really always been people, huh

    • @jessiebrown6084
      @jessiebrown6084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Junior high school, there was always the discussion at lunch as to what were you going to wear the next day, so friend groups would all show up in jeans, or all show up in dresses, or a certain color.

    • @kelseyrydar9497
      @kelseyrydar9497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's so dang cute though

    • @acecat2798
      @acecat2798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It's peak 12-14 year old + the influence of late 19th century romantic friendship being all about devotion between girls. It's freaking adorable.

    • @acelibrarian
      @acelibrarian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      TBH I was watching this and thinking my best friend and I (currently 41 and 39 years, respectively) should do a matchy pic, maybe for my 40th. We've been friends since I was 13 and I don't think we ever did one.

  • @kimberlynnwomack4262
    @kimberlynnwomack4262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    “This is fashion. She has made choices. And they are aggressive choices” I LOVE this!

  • @TheGFeather
    @TheGFeather 2 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    The thing I think we forget when looking at family histories is that our families were every bit as messy and complicated as they are now, it was just a bit less out in the open than it is now. I remember discovering that my eldest uncle was a war baby and only a half sibling and being absolutely floored. Looking back a bit farther, there are plenty of children and marriages that don't line up, second wives mistaken for first wives because of similar names or appearances, and cousins incorporated into households as siblings. Blended families were really common when mortality was higher and options for getting by more limited. Tidy branches of family trees are unusual.
    Wonderful photos and interesting stories. It looks like you had some really characters in your family tree.

  • @mothiestman4995
    @mothiestman4995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Edith always looks so incredibly horrified by whatever she's looking at. I love it.

  • @julievitous8069
    @julievitous8069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    I inherited all of my Grandmother and Great Grandmother's photos. Once I got them scanned to digital, we had several family get togethers where we played 'Name that Richardson'.
    On of the big lessons I learned was, some of the biggest clues are in the background. My uncle was able to date some photos based on farm outbuildings - when they were built or removed - and automobiles. One fairly generic picture of a flower girl at a wedding was identified by the bridesmaid in the background.
    It is a fun process of detective work.

    • @kohakuaiko
      @kohakuaiko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do you happen to have a
      William Carol
      Alexander Elijah
      James Alexander or
      Alexander Buchanan
      Among those? If so we might be related.

    • @msandigail
      @msandigail 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That is so neat!! And a great tip for me going through family photos!

    • @annbrookens945
      @annbrookens945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This sounds like a great idea for a family get-together!

    • @julievitous8069
      @julievitous8069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@annbrookens945 it helps to have someone in the family hook a laptop up to the TV so you can run thru the digital images as a group.
      I do not recommend trying to go thru to many pictures at one time. An hour or two can be enough and get quite a bit accomplished.
      Also, we started recording the sessions because of the stories that were coming back to older family members based on photos. Don't rush the process. Let the stories come.

    • @theab3957
      @theab3957 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lucky you. I guess your family didn't come from a war torn country.

  • @vadalia3860
    @vadalia3860 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Heck yeah, very proud of Daisy & her bold teenage fashion choices! Something about the look on her face, at least to me, reads "Yeah, my parents didn't want me to wear X, Y, or Z in this picture but I'm still gonna!" People really have just always been people.

  • @beefarren
    @beefarren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    As someone whose childhood best friend is now my sister-in-law, that discovery of the BFF dresses hit me pretty hard. I have a bunch of pictures of my great-grandmother with her sister-in-law from throughout their lives - I might have to go digging and see if that story repeated itself in my family history too!

  • @xnapalmxmorningx
    @xnapalmxmorningx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    The big question is what are future historians / descendents going to think about the mall glamorshots of the 80's and 90's.

    • @Siansonea
      @Siansonea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I mean, they're already a punchline. "Mall hair" of the 80s is the subject of many a meme. And Glamour Shots were always a bit cringe, even at the time. I was never tempted to do that, I always thought it was a tacky concept.

    • @elisabethmontegna5412
      @elisabethmontegna5412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      “Glamorshots” have been around for quite sometime (even if they were called something else). I have a rather fabulous headshot photo of my grandma from around 1950 looking very elegant and glamorous wearing pearls and (I thought) an off the shoulder black dress. I asked about it once and she told me her friends thought she was a bit scandalous for having the photo taken because it was well-known at the time that that style of photo was actually taken by draping black fabric around your shoulders (no shirt or even a bra or anything underneath) and the studio provided the jewelry. So, it was a 1950s glamorshots. It wouldn’t surprise me if there weren’t similar types of photos (glam photos taken with borrowed accessories or clothes) in earlier decades as well.

    • @elfieblue3175
      @elfieblue3175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I like to think about the "Old Wild West" portraits taken in amusement parks and at carnivals. We're talking tie-at-the-back costumes and cheap props. Or themed tourist costume portraits (my grandparents had a family portrait taken in "traditional" Dutch costume; 40 years later, my mother *required* us to do the same at the same tourist stop).

  • @carlymizzou
    @carlymizzou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    OMG the marrying your bro/sister in law when they came to help "keep house" after a spouse died threw me off so much. Completely had to start my family history over after that realization. Also didn't help that my great great great grandfather was named "Beverly" who married "Cecil" and 2 years later, about 45 days after she died, married her older sister "Mary" who then had a son named Cecil with him, then after Beverly died she married someone else and I ended up with a 30 year span of like all these Cecil's with different last names and genders I couldn't sort out.

  • @robintheparttimesewer6798
    @robintheparttimesewer6798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    That is such a lovely video. It’s so important to remember the past and keep the history alive.
    My grandmother was born in 1910 to her father’s second wife. When his first wife passed his widowed sister and her son moved in to take care of the kids and house. This really made him think as his sister didn’t have anything. She moved around the family to help out where needed. Anyway he made sure that all of his girls finished school and got a trade which was amazing for the time. My grandmother did secretarial work and moved to the big city. Her wedding was put on hold for the depression as they couldn’t afford to give up her job. Married woman didn’t work for the bank at that time.
    I never meet my great grandfather but I admire his forward thinking and his dedication to making sure his daughters would have a skill to fall back on. The fact that his sister had become the family’s housekeeper and nursemaid must have really weighed on him.

  • @simsvictor
    @simsvictor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I found the picture of Eva aging so touching and beautiful. The wedding picture and the later picture of them together is realy moving 💜

  • @woodstock6957
    @woodstock6957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    At my grandmas house we were looking through old photos I noticed one photo of a lady who looks Native American asked my mom and she said that is Goldie she is half black and half Native American and I ask her you are half native American and Grandma and she said yes and so are you I was shocked and also happy sadly my uncle couldn’t find the photo when we asked for it so I only saw it once rest in peace Goldie

  • @mortuaryartist
    @mortuaryartist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I bought a lovely picture frame many years ago. It had a B&W wedding photo from the 30s. I didn’t have the heart to change it. I don’t know who they were, but has hung on my wall for 20+ years

    • @myladycasagrande863
      @myladycasagrande863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      My old roommate likes buying antique photos of strangers; she calls it adopting orphans. :)

  • @lizzaturnbull
    @lizzaturnbull 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I absolutely love this! I tried to do my family tree but on one side I could only 3 generations until I came to an abandoned baby found by travelling people, and on the other side my grandmother lost pretty much all photos etc when she escaped Austria as a Jewish woman in 1939

    • @caitlynstarrparrish
      @caitlynstarrparrish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      With genealogy reaching the heights it is, you still might be able to find where that abandoned baby came from. Long lost families are finding each other a lot more often now a days.
      But even if that's as far as you get, it's still an amazing story to hold on to. 🖤🖤

    • @laurakondrick1635
      @laurakondrick1635 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Good reminder. My Czech grandfather came to Minneapolis with no claim to antecedents. Only a rumor that he was dropped off by his "aunt."

    • @mlatham23
      @mlatham23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is hard. It might be one of those cases where DNA could help.

  • @AndersWatches
    @AndersWatches 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I’m so jealous 😩 I know so very little about my family history. Nobody was a prolific photo taker, it’s like pulling teeth to take them now even.
    I know I’m from working class stock, miners, potters, that sort of stuff. That’s about it. I didn’t even know my great grandmother had an identical twin until after she died and I met her twin at a party lmao.

    • @nelliebly6616
      @nelliebly6616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😉 Envious not jealous 😎

    • @AndersWatches
      @AndersWatches 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nelliebly6616 Uh, okay? Do you often go around correcting the vocabulary of strangers?

    • @kaypgirl
      @kaypgirl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did the sisters just not get along? To be fair I don't think I ever met any of my great-grandparents siblings, even though I know some of them were alive when I knew my great-grandparents.

    • @saraa3418
      @saraa3418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The same thing happened to my mother at her grandmother's funeral! The story goes that Anna and her sister traveled together from Poland to the US, but her sister met and fell in love with someone on the boat and they were married by landfall and her sister and her new husband moved to Chicago while Anna stayed in NYC. I guess they corresponded, but couldn't make it to see each other much at all because bothe families were very poor. My mother says she got the fright of her life showing up for that funeral, because it was her grandmother's funeral, but here was her grandmother!

    • @AndersWatches
      @AndersWatches 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kaypgirl They got along just fine, it’s just they lived up in Durham and my great great aunt never had reason to come down to Stoke since everybody had moved back up there too. Both the twins are dead now but I think at least one other sister is still going!

  • @erynhofland4744
    @erynhofland4744 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I don’t know if anyone else read little house on the prairie when they were little, but I distinctly remember a lot of different descriptions of buying fabric or cutting out a pattern or getting a sewing machine, and they took place around the same time.

  • @ragnkja
    @ragnkja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Local fashions in “less fashionable” parts of Europe weren’t simply London or Paris fashion but a few years out of date; I assume it was the same in America.

    • @annaapple7452
      @annaapple7452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Additionally, a lot of farmers had their regionally traditional clothes. Those were not static either, but I don't know to what extent they followed city fashion. There is a yt channel that does stabilized and colorized film from the 1920s and 1930s in (among others) the Netherlands, and it is amazing to see the people in local costumes mix with the city dwellers in everyday life. I have a picture of my g-g-grandmother in such traditional dress, which feels somewhat surreal.

    • @annapruitt5546
      @annapruitt5546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@annaapple7452 who is the TH-camr?

    • @annaapple7452
      @annaapple7452 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@annapruitt5546 it is Rick88888888 There is a cluster of videos from about a year ago with several places like Zeeland, Leeuwarden, Drenthe, Scheveningen, Marken and Urk where people wore folkwear. Keep in mind that the colours are not accurate. Some dresses were really colourfull and others weren't.

    • @mygreenfroggy
      @mygreenfroggy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the same here for sure. I've seen fashions from the east and west coasts, usually very close to English or French styles, usually take a couple of years to catch on further inland. The center states do tend to be more conservative and slower to adopt the crazier, fashion-forward styles even now with instant communication of ideas. Not as being more backwards just less apt to be able to do the extremes of fashion.

  • @lucasmcinnis5045
    @lucasmcinnis5045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I'm always surprised by how well-dressed some of my ancestors were despite being rural farmers. Glad to see I'm not the only one.

    • @thomasfoley8287
      @thomasfoley8287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      My mom used to say, "just because we were poor, we were clean and never looked like a ragamuffin." Clothes were always neat.

    • @lucasmcinnis5045
      @lucasmcinnis5045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@thomasfoley8287 I think I've noticed, at least from the photos and stories that survive in my family, appearance usually had something or other to do with infrastructure.
      My family lives in North Carolina, and the farmers that lived in the more developed east look better dressed then the ones that lived out West and up in the mountains of NC.

    • @gauloise6442
      @gauloise6442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Getting your photo taken used to be a very special occasion. People dressed in their "Sunday church clothes" I doubt they dressed that way in daily life.

    • @lucasmcinnis5045
      @lucasmcinnis5045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@gauloise6442 Not always, I have seen many family photos taken up in the mountains or at farmhouses, the entire family dressed in work clothes and rags, hair undone as if they weren't expecting the picture to be done that day

    • @EXO-L45
      @EXO-L45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gauloise6442 the fashions shown in this video were actually for day to day wear.

  • @benneufeld2315
    @benneufeld2315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hey Nicole, I didn't fully watch this video but I wanted to say that when you put different old photographs into AI colorizers, you can see all sorts of things. Like how they would paint in or scrape of the ink by the waist and neck, you can see totally different colors than the backgrounds. Its so cool to see how they used different techniques in black and white thinking you would never see the paint or scrapes until you colorize the photos!

  • @katiespalding3729
    @katiespalding3729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jessie, Marion, Hannah, Richard, Ellen, Linnie ... then Manly and Epaminondas?? Victorians really knew how to name people!

  • @sarahwatts7152
    @sarahwatts7152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Sometime in the future I would love to see a recreation of one of these dresses (and maybe a lookalike picture?)

    • @honoraweaver788
      @honoraweaver788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I just did this with my daughter and an 1895 picture of my 2nd great-grandmother. I made a dress inspired by the picture and had pictures done in a circa 1903 house that’s a bed and breakfast.

    • @becauseimafan
      @becauseimafan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@honoraweaver788 That is _adorable_ and I love it!

  • @izzyhaynes6422
    @izzyhaynes6422 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It is really nice that you have away to look back so far! Coming from two generations of displaced families not having more than bare bones oral stories of what little is remembered warms my heart

  • @kathmorgan3429
    @kathmorgan3429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's an interesting contrast to my family: my grandmother was born in 1920 in rural england. Her dad was a keen photographer, so we have a lot of photos of her childhood, but the styles she was wearing were positively victorian. We always put it down to being rural and lower income, but perhaps (especially since he did have the camera hobby which suggests some disposable income), we are looking at her grandma's influence on the dated choices!

  • @hanananah
    @hanananah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're so lucky to have all of those pictures. I've been kicking myself for a decade for not helping my grandfather digitize his collection when I had the chance before his house burned down. He still has an incredibly detailed family tree that is longer than the dining room table when it's unfolded though, goes all the way back to 1690.

  • @counter10r
    @counter10r 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    We have 3 photos of my great-great-grandfather--an ambrotype on glass in his 20s (1850s) and two tintypes where he's older. The interesting thing is none of them are with family members--two are with other (non-family) men--and in examining the third, a tintype, I realized that it was actually half of an image--presumably it was a double portrait that had been cut in half. Wondering if this was a friendly gesture (they went halfsies on a photo?) or if this literally was a split in a relationship. I have asked my mother's cousins if any other photos exist, but no one has come up with any--however, one of my mom's cousins owns this g-g-grandfather's fiddle (his name is on a piece of paper glued to the inside).

  • @roweng.4245
    @roweng.4245 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Back in the very early 70s, I was visiting my grandmother (born in 1897) and her surviving older sister (born in 1891?), and I extracted from the tops and bottoms of closets boxes and boxes of photographs - tintypes, collotypes, cabinet cards, early b&w photos, mid-century color photos. . . plonked myself down on the rug in front of their chairs and said, "who are these people?" And wrote on the backs everything they told me. I am still amazed that as a teen, I had the forethought to do this.

  • @aShadeBolder
    @aShadeBolder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    this is fascinating, and it gives me hope that I can fill out some details of who-they-were-as-people IF I can find really old family photos. I don't have grandparents anymore, so everything verbal is from parents, and filtered through the resultant lack of description (even for the relatives they knew, I'll get "yeah, she was a bit weird" or "he was alright" followed by "I don't know, just weird" or "I don't know, that's just how it was" if I ask follow up questions) or lack of curiosity (they didn't ask older relatives very detailed questions, so there is very little they know about relatives they didn't meet).
    I do know that my granddad was a lamplighter in the east end of London, during the period between the phasing out of gas street lamps and people working out that electric street lights could all be turned on by a single switch at a centralised location. his job was to unlock the bottom of each lamppost & switch them on in the evening, then switch them off again in the morning. which is interesting, if only in the sense that I wouldn't know that job existed otherwise.

  • @uleubner
    @uleubner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "You push the button, we do the rest."
    My father worked, from the late 1960s until the 1990s, for Kodak, as a researcher in chemistry, improving films and film processing. If you ever took a picture on Kodak film, or had it developed, during that time, you enjoyed the fruit of his work.
    Thank you for drawing attention to the history of photography.
    It is a pity that chemical photography has pretty much disappeared. I fear for future generations, they won't have pictures of themselves, or their family, because digital is so ephemeral. And much, much lower resolution than what they were working on perfecting when Kodak's research was shut down. (My father had been working on creating film with one-photon resolution. DPI- dots per inch, is crude in comparison.)
    If you care about your family's history, make sure your pictures are hard copies, that your grandkids will be able to see with no technology beyond their own eyeballs. Because even now, people who digitized their pictures a decade or two ago can't necessarily actually see them.

  • @GoingGreenMom
    @GoingGreenMom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Lol, love that your grandfather loved candid shots. We have loads of pictures from both sides as the pictures from estate sales wound up at Grandma's house on my Mom's side, and my Granddad on my Dad's side got the camera and he and Grandmother did lots of documentation and photo developing when they lived out of the country.

  • @ChayatsujiKimono
    @ChayatsujiKimono 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love this video and it resonates so much

    • @NicoleRudolph
      @NicoleRudolph  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      How neat! I recently acquired a book about the various types of folkwear around Germany and I am amazed at how varied it was from one small region to the next. I'm also amazed at how many of the elements (like embroidery patterns) have survived into modern fashion. A lot of the people in the book are also wearing antique clothing that would have been "fashionable" mixed with the traditional pieces, which is extra fascinating! That's great that you're finding all of that research material.

    • @rdb4996
      @rdb4996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@NicoleRudolph now that you mention it, Europe must have had such a variety of folkwear. I am also from the Netherlands, but was lucky to visit ethnographic musea in Eastern Europe. The regional differences in both West and East are stark! Now let's count the countries that you pass through from the Netherlands to Eastern Europe and imagine how many regions that must be with their own folkwear 😲

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rdb4996
      If you just count countries, you’re _really_ undercounting, because regions within countries had their own traditions and styles too.

    • @rdb4996
      @rdb4996 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ragnkja I know!! But my brain cannot comprehend the amount of traditions/styles/folklore that used to be and that we lost 😱

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rdb4996
      They’re not necessarily completely lost, but there definitely used to be a lot more variation in how people dressed. Nowadays you could travel to the other end of the country (or even to another country) and people-especially teenagers-still look basically the same as what you’re used to. At best you might see one or two who are wearing one garment that is specific to the region, unless of course it’s a special day when people wear traditional dress.

  • @shamancarmichael5305
    @shamancarmichael5305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Seeing the photos colorized just brings them even more to life! What a wonderful video!

  • @dariapack8906
    @dariapack8906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love old photos. My mom when I was 10 or so (she's a portrait artist, mainly uses charcoal) did a piece with all of her grandmothers that she has photographs of, and included a sketch of her mother (my grandmother) from when she just graduated from high school. It's one of her best pieces. She even has each of their names and their birth and death dates on there.

  • @hannnahm
    @hannnahm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is absolutely fascinating. My family photographs only date back to the 1900's, and the split between "Upper middle class" and "Grandpa lost his leg in a train accident so now we're poor" is VERY evident in the photos. All the earliest ones are in very nice formal clothing, posed and very clear obviously professional photographs, and then the photos from around 1920 or so are obviously very casual home photographs of the kids, almost never the parents, always waring very casual working clothing. They start looking fancy again around WWII when the kids are adults, but never again the super-professional posed portraits from the 1910's.

  • @mizsherm4352
    @mizsherm4352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have to thank you for helping me date a photo of a very large group of people standing in front of my great grandfather's newly built store in rural Illinois. This will help immensely when I go to the state capital to do more research.

  • @Chibihugs
    @Chibihugs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thank you for sharing your family history with us. I love looking at past photos they can tell us so much.

  • @aeolia80
    @aeolia80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    my mom's mom and her sister-in-law were best friends too before her sister-in-law married her brother, and continued to be all the rest of their lives, even though my grandmother moved to a different State and raised her family in this other State from her hometown, to this day my grndmother's kids and grandkids are closer to the children and grandchildren of this great-aunt than my grandmother's own sister's children. Hahaha, I've kind of always wanted to name a bakery after those 2 women if I ever decided to open one.

  • @rynrose81
    @rynrose81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love everything about this video, the fashion details, the family photos and stories. My extended family has splintered a lot in recent years so it’s really fun and interesting to look further back at a different era and hear different stories

  • @killamoosdraree730
    @killamoosdraree730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Genealogy is one of my other pastimes besides sewing. It's really quite interesting to delve into. It's especially fun if you happen across a family member's name in a newspaper. Sadly records do get lost and create brick walls on certain branches. Similarly, I have run into family members who have connected my own branch to the wrong ancestors in the same family tree (untangling that mess can be time consuming). I used to use a free website called gencircles to record my family tree - gencircles was purchased by myheritage and I can no longer access my data without paying for a subscription. Luckily I have my own hard copies. Because myheritage was able to gain so many family trees through gencircles, it really is an excellent resource to connect with other genealogists in your own family and share those fun stories that aren't recorded on any documents. Ancestry is another website that has excellent resources for historical records.
    When studying those actual handwritten records, you can notice how cursive writing styles have changed and sometimes find that surnames can be indexed incorrectly (Sometimes a capital S can look like a capital L to the modern reader as an example). Using that information, you can sometimes jump over a brick wall by trying to misspell your own family surnames. It was also not uncommon for a family to change their surname after migration. If you run into this brick wall, sometimes you can search first names including known relationships (say you know their names were Elizabeth and John and that they were married before migration as well as their approximate year of migration). This technique can work to point to possible prior surnames which can then be verified through other known facts about the couple such as the date and place of their marriage. Happy researching and as always thanks for sharing!

  • @dismae7784
    @dismae7784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    OMG I loved this video so much!!!! The detailed description of your research methods was so helpful and satisfying. Would love to see more of these kinds of videos!!!!!

  • @LtSarai
    @LtSarai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This made me remember looking through old photo albums at my great grandparents' house when I was younger. Now I wanna hit up grandma and see if she still has them.

  • @swarmqueenhydok4990
    @swarmqueenhydok4990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One cool thing I hadn't realized that I discovered recently was just how early home video cameras were available. I got to see some casual home videos from my family last summer, lots of college-age guys and their girlfriends hanging out on the beach, boat races, just general silliness... taken by my grandfather's uncle before WWII.

  • @RiverBear37
    @RiverBear37 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm fortunate to have a lot of family photos from my dads side I love looking at them and learning what I can about them. My moms grandparents were poor immigrants so there are very few photos of them but I love the ones we have. I just saw some of 2 of her grandparents for the first time yesterday which was exciting for me. My dad is also an archivist and he's been showing me the old photos and documents my whole life which has made me very interested in history. I would love to have a job like his when I'm an adult.

  • @Rhaifha
    @Rhaifha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh man, those are some great outfits! From what I've seen most of my ancestors we still have pictures of just wore the local historical dress style (from a rural and conservative part of the netherlands), so they just wore a whole lot of black.
    I did get some great stories from my grandmother though. I treasure that stuff.

  • @crystilmurch5659
    @crystilmurch5659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was super fascinating! Eva sounds like she lived a very interesting life. This whole look into common people's lives has dispelled some myths about less wealthy folks and their clothing. Thank you for sharing!

  • @guineapig1985
    @guineapig1985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this...as my grandparents are passing away and losing their memories, I am getting more and more interested in family history. I know they all did a bunch of work on genealogy and family history and uncovered and preserved a lot of stuff...I guess it's time for my generation to start to take interest

  • @liznotslow
    @liznotslow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The matching friends makes me think of Anne and Diana of Anne of Green Gables. They never had matching dresses I don’t think? But they would have LOVED to.

  • @___LC___
    @___LC___ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An awesome finding in my family photos is images of my Uncle Plenny. Plenny was a formerly escaped slave turned free man who married into the family and was included in family photos, despite his status and fears at the time. Due to the time at which they married, they didn’t have children out of fear, but he was loved by the family. We think his name was actually Plentiful, but we only know the nick name and haven’t found records of him….due to the times it is thought he avoided government censuses.

  • @dieschatten
    @dieschatten 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is so supremely helpful!! I inherited a whole bunch of late 19th early 20th century photos from both sides of my family. one side wrote names and dates on the backs, the other did not 😅

  • @digitaldgirl4459
    @digitaldgirl4459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Such lovely photos of your family and the history you shared was wonderful. My father was a photographer since the early 40's and so many other families histories are there in photos we still have even 5 years after his passing. The ones of our family strikes up such great memories and faces of long gone elders. You are so blessed to have such wonderful historic photos of your family.

  • @honoraweaver788
    @honoraweaver788 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just made an 1895 bodice and skirt inspired by an 1895 picture of my 2nd great-grandmother. I have been researching my family for over ten years now. I love old pictures. They really do tell a story.

  • @jenniferb4764
    @jenniferb4764 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My grandparents house was full of old photos, they were in north Alabama. They were not like these. They had some blown up really big framed on the walls. They were horrifying when we were kids. Many of them had been done by traveling photographers in a field somewhere around there(from what my grandmother said). I would like to say I would look at them differently now as an adult, but some of them were really odd and I am still afraid to walk around that house at night, and the photos are still horrifying.

  • @DipityS
    @DipityS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My word! It's a wealth - a veritable Aladdin's cave of gems from your family's past. Thank you so much for sharing some of this with us - somehow having the girls all troop into town to the local photographer, dressed in their most fashionable and up to date gowns - it's adds such depth to these images. It brings them alive and makes me really like the young women in the photo and makes them very real to me 😊

  • @Lavender_Louis
    @Lavender_Louis 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think it's also worth noting that clothing was much more adjustable back then. Not only in size but also in style. They could add or remove trimmings and lace, take in big sleeves etc. And they probably used the old dresses or materials for other purposes.

  • @MizzMaree7
    @MizzMaree7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have family who were farmers in Frankfurt. How fun to see yours!

  • @lesleyharris525
    @lesleyharris525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing your family photographs and storys, please keep us updated on what you discover, my cousin tryed to trace the family but could only go so far and contacted my mum for help and was shocked to discover that the reason she could not trace the marriage of our great grandparents is they never had a legal wedding, they jumped the broomstick!

  • @user-mv9tt4st9k
    @user-mv9tt4st9k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved this. I have many old card photos of my father's family in a well worn padded album. I was always referred to as the "three generation throwback," because I am darked eyed/haired with with an olive complexion. Until I saw an image of my maternal great-grandmother (same eyes, bone structure, jawline) I had wondered where my dark olive came from. Even in black and white, Grandma Danda was a mirror to me, and my toddler photos looked very like her daughter's. As my grandfather aged, I would often catch him looking intently at me: My mother and I believe that may have been because of my resemblance to his mother. 😉

  • @lenaeospeixinhos
    @lenaeospeixinhos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm squealing at these pictures 🥰 love love love! Wish my family's pictures had been this well preserved, but there were few and they're very damaged 😭

  • @WanderTrust
    @WanderTrust ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg i love this!! My dads side comes from the logging industry, and I live in a city that used to be a big logging town (and still is a bit) and so when i was at the local thrift shop I noticed some old books about the logging industry in my area. I bought them for $5 cash only from an old woman, and inside of them were a couple very cool photos!! one of them I didn't discover until I showed the book to my dad, and he actually RECOGNIZED a couple of the guys in the photo, said likely where the photo was taken and also that it was way before his time...There was also a name written in the book (the owners name) who he recognized. So very cool to piece those things together. I think it's really cool that your family has held on to so many family heirlooms. I've never really felt that kind of connection to where I'm from and my family, but I'm really enjoying piecing these things together as an adult :)

  • @bonniehyden962
    @bonniehyden962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my gosh!!! Why have I never thought of going through the photos my mom has to research historic fashion??!! 🤦‍♀️ Time with mom, learning family history, decoding fashion? What could be better? Thank you so much for sharing this video, Nicole! I look forward to seeing more of your family. What a handsome lot they were, too! 🤗

  • @msandigail
    @msandigail 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My great great aunt Beryl noted down the names of the dogs, horses, and cows in her photos, but rarely the humans!! We have a "photo album" of negatives from her from 1910 that I would love to scan - working farm clothes, candid shots of women and men both working in the wheat fields during harvest, an amazing image of her friend drinking tea and reading a date-able issue of Good Housekeeping!! So much amazing history!

  • @mrschurch1979
    @mrschurch1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was eating lunch while watching your video, and when you said Frankfort, I just about died of choking on my sandwich. My husband's family is from that area and he spent his first twelve years there. Small world!

  • @Niobesnuppa
    @Niobesnuppa ปีที่แล้ว

    It's so fascinating to look at all these details that give you more of a clue as to who the person was, and what they were like. It's so easy to just think of people from the past as random names you will never know or care about, but they lived lives as full of love, hardship and happiness as we do. My dad is really into researching our ancestry, and he actually found a prison document from our ancestor back in the 1700's who had gone to jail for beating up a man who was hitting on his wife when they were at a tavern. There's also a number of pictures of my ancestors, who lived mostly in the Telemark region of southeastern Norway, dressed in beautiful folk costumes.

  • @kjmav10135
    @kjmav10135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a very old photo album of my great aunt, galavanting around with her friends. She was born in 1890, so, because of this video, I can now figure out about when these pictures were taken. Must have been a very early, portable camera. I’m going to dig the album out and have a second look! Thanks!

  • @thiadesg
    @thiadesg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're so lucky to have so many photographs! My ancestors were farmers in Quebec and I don't have any pictures before 1935 (my grandpa in diapers!), because they never went to a studio, but they got their own camera around that time.

  • @SusanYeske701
    @SusanYeske701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We have some old family photos that we need to get definitive names and dates for before everyone who knows who was in the pictures passes on. This was really helpful, thanks

  • @curiouslywoven9737
    @curiouslywoven9737 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think digitization of family photos is terrific, especially for junior branch family members. You’re so lucky to have access to all of your family photos and not to suffer from lack of shared information. It was great a few years ago to have a family reunion with my mother’s paternal cousins and find out more about the family. My sister and I, the youngest members of the family present, spent most of our time there quizzing everyone we could and scanning every family photograph. That one weekend took that portion of the family history from being a complete blank pre 1900s to some line histories being fully outlined pre American revolution with photos dating back to just before the civil war! I even discovered that I and a second cousin had both been undergraduates at UGA at the same time. He had studied film while I was studying history. My best friend at the time even married one of his cousins (no relation of mine). Unfortunately we never met and he died in Afghanistan a few years after we graduated.
    On a slightly different note, your discussion on early photography got me to thinking of some of my favorite films on the subject. Have you seen The Governess (1998), Shadow Magic (2000), or Everlasting Moments (2008)?

  • @sayakota3054
    @sayakota3054 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In France, most regions scanned all their old records for people to read. We managed to trace one part of our family back to the 1500s!
    My great grandma was around until 1975 as well. We have a photo of her from the 70s and she's still rocking her 1900s hairstyle. This generation fascinates me - imagine being born in the 1880s and seeing men on the moon, tv, computers etc, and all the fashion changes during your lifetime!

  • @christyb2912
    @christyb2912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating!!! thank you I really enjoyed this - your knowledge is amazing -and 19th century first names are hilarious aren't they? Epaminondes?? Manly?? In my family tree (french Canadian) I have Euphrosine and Adjutor LOL

  • @valentinacavalottivelasco9484
    @valentinacavalottivelasco9484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this video was FASCINATING.
    Just the other day we were looking at old pictures with my dad and i realized i can date them pretty closely by the clothes they're wearing, which is actually pretty exciting because many of the photos we don't have the names or dates

  • @anniebell6846
    @anniebell6846 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The spinning wheel and the dog pics are awesome.

  • @mcwjes
    @mcwjes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to always buy the old pictures at the thrift shop in town. I don't know whose family they are, but I like to think they'd be glad someone appreciates their baby pictures and the farm they loved.

  • @saraa3418
    @saraa3418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this sleuthing you've done. It makes me feel like you're piecing together Anne of Green Gables using the photos she left behind

  • @CaraTheStrange
    @CaraTheStrange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos and voice so much. You sound like a wise mentor in all the best ways!

  • @maryduhon9769
    @maryduhon9769 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love looking at photos from this time period

  • @PepperReed214
    @PepperReed214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am lucky enough to have a lot of photos from my mother's side of the family. It is an amazing gift to have faces to go with names. It has helped me connect with my 3 and 4x great grandparents. Thanks for the info to help me specifically date them based on the fashions.

  • @chrisbeckstrom6182
    @chrisbeckstrom6182 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an absolute treasure to have such an archive of photos!

  • @sweetlorikeet
    @sweetlorikeet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That spinning wheel is absolutely gorgeous and I want to use it to make yarn desperately

  • @brandielee7971
    @brandielee7971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm envious of the amount of photos you have of your family. I know a bit about my family from verbal history but it was made very clear that the one to two photographs we had was because of how poor we were going all the way back

  • @InThisEssayIWill...
    @InThisEssayIWill... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so cool! My dad was working on genealogy before he passed and I've been waiting for my mom to get me a copy of his files so I can pick back up where he left off... My uncle is the only other living person from that side of the family who could tell me anything... And considering they are twins I worry that he will encounter similar health struggles and that knowledge will all be lost...

  • @mlatham23
    @mlatham23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another thing to remember is that often, they made these gowns themselves. I am pretty sure you are getting to the period of time when it wasn't uncommon for families to have sewing machines. Even today I may not buy exactly the amount of fabric that I need. That extra may get pulled back out and the garment refashioned to update the look.
    Actually the Little House in the Big Woods series of books, gives a pretty good look into how women kept up with fashion in the center of the US, on a farmers income.

  • @blktauna
    @blktauna 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eva is stunning. That look in her first pic is hilarious.

  • @wendyreynolds2261
    @wendyreynolds2261 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so cool and informative! And the BFF pic of Edith and Eva is the sweetest!

  • @Rainbopagn
    @Rainbopagn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Best friends” being recorded like that is such a precious thing to see.

  • @FlybyStardancer
    @FlybyStardancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s so awesome how much you have of them!

  • @caoimhenimhuireadhaigh1303
    @caoimhenimhuireadhaigh1303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best friend matching dresses are honestly iconic

  • @jezanne
    @jezanne 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I will definitely try to colorize some old family pictures. One fun fact I knew from my grandmother born in 1890 is that she like pastel and floral. One of my aunt told us that people in the village was talking that she was wearing too young a style as a middle age women. My grand father defend her telling anyone that he like that she dress nicely and that she was pretty. BTW you think that house was small to raise 4 children. My grandparents live in a similar size house in Québec province and raise 15 kids.

  • @vincentbriggs1780
    @vincentbriggs1780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so interesting, and thank you so much for including men's fashion!!
    It's not an era I know much about, but I'm still awfully tired of people claiming 19th century menswear is inherently boring or "all the same".

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating and entertaining.
    Eva looks very relaxed and composed in her studio photos.

  • @espurrlady3397
    @espurrlady3397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omg I love this!! I have some old pictures laying around the house I have needed to get dated for a while and now this video made it possible!!

  • @TealCheetah
    @TealCheetah 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grandpa with the candid shots is so wholesome and wonderful.

  • @bonestormftw
    @bonestormftw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could watch these videos ALL DAY! So interesting I need to re-examine all my family photos I have piles and piles!

  • @linellcorban4194
    @linellcorban4194 ปีที่แล้ว

    For historical context, I am a generation (at least) older than you. I have a picture of my grandmother with her siblings (7 in all) all dressed in similar outfits (the brothers are quite small) trimmed with 'middy' braid. She & her sister, the 2 oldest girls, had sewn all the outfits. Also, she once told me that she & her sisters would look at pictures of the Tsars daughters to get ideas for their own dresses. Her graduation/confirmation present was a sewing machine.
    I really enjoyed this video. We are blesses with a lot of family photos & my sister & I have spent many hours doing the same thing

  • @jessicajanowiak4199
    @jessicajanowiak4199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's so awesome that you have those photos and history! My husband's family has quite a few photos from ages past, although not nearly as many or as far back as you. The earliest one we found if from around 1903-ish. I'm very jealous of the wealth of information you have about your family!

  • @colleencarterduncan7559
    @colleencarterduncan7559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My ancestors are Carters too-we are probably distantly related (along with many, many others, the family seems pretty prolific). This was a delightful look at a different aspect of genealogy.

  • @kind_of_willow3193
    @kind_of_willow3193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's interesting, that the fashion in those times has been so international. I have pictures of my grand-grandmothers and their daughters whose dresses looked like those in your pictures- in germany!

  • @j.singer8461
    @j.singer8461 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You make some very interesting points analyzing how to date photos. Particularly that clothing was more expensive, but people had less to spend money on. Also, that outside of major citiies, people were likely to be a few years behind the trends. Even now, new trends take time for new trends to be widely adopted. And yes, we define trends in decades, but people don't through out all of their clothing as soon as we enter a new decade.

  • @MinasMagic
    @MinasMagic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope whoever has my family's photographs takes care of them. Few stayed in contact with each other...it's easier to hide the family secrets when you don't interact with the family...so, I know very little about those I'm related to...

  • @mandaleigh5249
    @mandaleigh5249 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both sides of my family dating back to at least the 1850s were farmers in rural WI, and both sides also had so many photographs taken. Same with your situation, many were marked with their names in the back, often nicknames. I've inherited a huuuuuge collection of them. I've looked at them a million times, but I need to track down if I can find approx. dates, and who they actually were.
    Wewh! I got tired for you just watching this! I admire the work you did!

  • @gacktist00
    @gacktist00 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know that someone else's family photos can be this interesting and facinating!! I still love to take photos using film cameras, so this video is much more fun to watch!! great great video! subscribed! 😘