Nespresso Vertuo Plus - "Coffee Not Hot Enough!" Debunked
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- I measure the temperature of a wide range of different Vertuo Plus pods and firmly debunk the idea that it's not hot enough. Since immediate scalding occurs over 68 Degrees C, unless you have an asbestos mouth you will need to let it cool!
Put the mug as close to the nozzle as you can for the hottest coffee!!
Late to the party but found this video because...you guessed it...My Nespresso Vertuo coffee is very dissapointing temperature wise. Tried all your tricks already and have come to just expect warm coffee from this machine. You do not debunk anything here...just suggest tricks to avoid cooling. I, and apparently many, many more people actually enjoy hot coffee, not warm coffee. If I had known this beforehand I would never have bought it.
Are your temps less than mine? If so, could be a faulty machine. But if you like coffee over 85 degrees I doubt the machine gets that hot.
I just put it in the microwave for a few seconds. But I shouldn’t have to!😩
If you coffee is not hot it's a faulty machine. It should be too hot to drink out of the machine. If it's only warm, it's not working right. 75 degrees C will scald in seconds. Brew temps are nearer high 80s low 90s. It's worth calling Nespresso for a replacement machine.
Totally agree, just got one for Xmas, no way it is hot enough. Brewed to drink immediately apparently, still not hot enough! Real world is a cold cup, and guess what people add milk sometimes, this gave me a poor warm cup of coffee. Sent it back, disappointed.
@@daveamo6597 How do you normally get your coffee? Do you brew it yourself or buy it... just interested to know how hot it is and why it's that hot. To some extent temp is a matter of taste and what you can stand and also how hot the water needs to be to get the right flavour from the coffee. I've read varying views on how hot the water needs to be. A lot of coffee shops blow live steam into the milk and of course this will mean a double shot coffee ends up being diluted with a lot of sreaming hot milk. The Aerroccino frother gers the milk at the high end of warm but not scalding. I mostly drink my coffee black. I guess an americano is made with a double espresso and topped up with (boiling?) water. I dunno as I'm no barista I just press a button. Can you enlighten me?
Very well done!
Very thorough and painstaking.
My personal opinion is that the coffee here in this machine in Canada is not hot enough.
Because of this, I prefer to use my Keurig.
The longevity of the coffee that comes out of this machine is extremely short-lived even though I am immediately drinking it.
All things considered, I think that the manufacture should increase the temperature
Honestly i am quite disappointed too, luke warm is how i would describe it.
@@nextep74I just bought mine as well and super disappointed in temperature.
However I just tried customizing the brew size which you can do by pressing and holding down on the top button until you’ve reached your desired volume of coffee.
The default setting based on capsule bar code does not give you much coffee even on the 230ml mug size.
I prefer more coffee so you can reset the default to your custom size by holding then button down then releasing when it’s the right amount.
Going forward all capsules will now brew that new set amount.
So I found with the longer pour time I get more coffee AND ITS HOTTER.
While the coffee is great, it's just not hot enough. I make a cup and put it in a large cup while I make another cup to add to it. By the time I have both cups in my large cup it is not hot. I do the same thing with my keurig and it is pretty hot by the time I'm ready to go. The Nespresso coffee is better. The keurig stays hot longer. Now if they could get together... LoL. (I use the vertuo machine)
Could yi
Our machine be faulty? Others have made the same comment so maybe it's a problem with some machines.... Seriously, mine will burn your mouth after pouring. The espressos, being a lower volume, do cool rapidly when put in a cold cup or glass, and some cups retain heat better. While it's inconvenient, pre-heating cups could help. Having recorded temperatures, I found that it's post-pour cooling not the machine that is the cause if your coffee being cooler than desired but of course I could only test one machine
AGREE!!
Same exact issue here. I also moved from a Keurig to a Nespresso and yes not as hot as a Keurig(brews coffee at 170°F) and yes Nespresso coffee is WAY better tasting. I learned to live with it been using Nespresso for 2 years now and not looking back! but wish it was hotter 🤷♂️
I would say the Nespresso tastes better because it's not so hot when brewed. Warming the mug definitely helps as well as having the spout as close to the mug as possible. It cools VERY rapidly as it passes through the air and a cool mug will seep more heat out. Of course, mug-warming adds to preparation time.
Agree!
This is interesting as I’ve just bought the Next and it’s on average 10C cooler than the Plus. I’ve been doing some testing today and the hottest coffee I got from my Next was 68.6 and the coolest was 58.5c. With pre warming the cups the temperature is increased a little by 2c but there is still on average a temperature difference of 8c-10c on the Plus vs Next.
It looks like I’m returning my Next and buying plus as 10c difference in temperature is the difference between warm and hot coffee.
@@joffhall81 I am sure some machines have a faulty thermostat or something.
@@richwhilecooper it’s only 2 weeks old but it definitely isn’t right.
I’m going to see if I can get it exchanged for a plus as the Next just doesn’t make hot enough coffee.
Great if you like an excellent tasting but luke-warm cup of coffee! I made a coffee in my brand new Nespresso Virtuo and I was very disappointed! I used the thermometer and it was at 120F. I then make a coffee out of my Keurig and it was 170F ... mine will definitely we going back!
Everyone says the Keylurig is hotter. I would't say it's lukewarm in the nespresdo though. Not mine. 70C. I make it, I want to be able to drink it right away but 70 is too hot for me. I think the temperature thing, assuming your brewed at the same temp as mine, is targetting a particular customer. I've never like scalding-hot drinks. Some say 120 - 140f is optimal for drinking. Extraction should be hotter of course. It all comes down to personal preference but the Keurig would have me adding cold water or milk.
As an aside I research lukewarm and the hottest lukewarm be is about 115° F (body temp + 15 degrees) or about 46° C. The COOLEST I measured the coffee was 65 °C I think so almost 20 degrees hotter than lukewarm, so at the least, the description of lukewarm is inaccurate (assuming your machine is brewing the same as mine.
Of course whatever we call it, if you don't find it hot enough, that's all that really matters. Whether it's personal taste and/or a faulty machine, from your perspective, it's irrelevant. You just want hotter coffee.
It is not hot enough. That simple. No likes drinking lukewarm coffee. Once we have to resort to *tricks* to alleviate this obvious defect, we might as well just make it manually...mine is going back today😮
You do you, dude.
@ASMR_Lighting I just bought mine as well and super disappointed in temperature.
However I just tried customizing the brew size which you can do by pressing and holding down on the top button until you’ve reached your desired volume of coffee.
The default setting based on capsule bar code does not give you much coffee even on the 230ml mug size.
I prefer more coffee so you can reset the default to your custom size by holding then button down then releasing when it’s the right amount.
Going forward all capsules will now brew that new set amount.
So I found with the longer pour time I get more coffee AND ITS HOTTER.
I still don’t agree with the coffee is hot enough.
The longevity of the warmer temperature is very short.
As good as the coffee taste, I prefer my Keurig
Cooling is a function of thermodynamics not coffee machines, however the temperature you want to drink it at is a matter of taste. I think most peoole will find it hot enough and you certainly can't drink it straight out of the machine without burning your mouth.
Why such arrogant comments when most people here are saying the same thing? Have you tested a good cross sample of these machines to come to an accurate vaild conclusion? No, so everyone complaining about the same problem are all delusional according to you. Or maybe your analytical skills suck...?!
For someone so concerned with temperature, you really need to chill out. If you think 78 degrees c is like warm then perhaps you should drink lava.
Keep your comments civil and please avoid personal insults or I'll delete your comments. If you have a machine and you want to publish your own temp research here please do. It could be that some machines are faulty. Mine isn't.
Thank you for creating this video!
Coffee is supposed to be brewed at nearly 100°c... Just saying. It doesn't matter if it's pour over, drip, or French press.
Opinions on this differ based on my research.
Generally, coffee is best brewed between 91°C and 96°C (195°F and 205°F), and it should be served between 49°C and 60°C (120°F and 140°F). Should a barista wish for the coffee to stay hotter for longer, it can be served at over 82°C (180°F).12 Aug 2022
Yes it is hot enough or at least in the plus machine I recently purchased. But its not super hot like some that are probably over 200F/93C. But I don't turn coffee into milk so its just black. Do need to use the right type of cup for it to actually stay hot, unless you heat the cup up ahead of time. Drastic difference in a ceramic mug not warmed vs insulated glass type. Using 7.7oz pod temp stayed over over 150F/66C for over 5 minutes which is hot and hotter than I want to drink it. Way longer than that over 140F. So yet it gets hot enough but might want to use warm milk, if one uses a lot of it. Hottest I saw was about 80C in the cup and a few flashes of 92C coming out of the machine. Just doesn't retain heat nearly as well in a normal cup. But the temp isn't a problem for me at all because I have to cool it off or get a burned mouth. But some can drink coffee hot and think nothing of it.
this is a great comparison, however some caveats, measuring the the temp as the water is going into the coffee would be ideal, but difficult to assess. Some factors that will affect the outcomes of the temperature o fcoffee coming out would be the fact that water going through the coffee grounds would already drop the temperature and the amount of coffee in the pod, as well as the length of the brew would also affect the out coming temperature. but it is interesting to see this outcome as you were able to measure it as useful to confirm that the coffee coming out of the machine isn't cold and only varies by a few degrees. pre-warming the cups and milk would go a long way to ensure a hot cup of coffee.
Yes the brew temps will be several degrees hotter Probsbly as high as 95 degrees C
@@richwhilecooper ppl are just use to brewing coffee into a pot that’ has an over heated burner to begin w. It’s not the brewing that’s all that different, it’s the heating of the coffee after the brewing.
@@jrmint2 I don't think I like drinks that hot. It must detract from the flavour in some way. Like ( but not as bad as) putting sugar in it.
I love the coffee , hate the temp of coffee - Luke warm. Awful. Nespresso Vertuo going back
Lotta people having issue. Must be a manufacturing defect. Sorry it's happened to you.
I love my original Nespresso machine, it’s 15 years old and still works like a trooper. But it’s never hot enough! I know people say to warm the cup but it’s just frustrating. My mom and sister have a Keurig machine and their coffee poured into a room temperature cool mug is nice and hot. Literally the water coming out of the Nespresso machine is not as hot as Keurig or Tassimo’s machines. I wish Nespresso would fix this. I can see where too hot of a roasting temp will burn the beans but hot water is not going to burn the beans… because it’s water!
DEFINITELY not hot enough for me!
This video ended saying user claims that machine does not generate hot coffee is not accurate. The fact that there is a videos which is created to support nespresso claim that coffee is hot enough says a lot. It means the coffee machine does not create hot coffee and nespresso is using this influencer method to convince all. Sure coffee brewing at lower temperature might bring out the flavor which nespresso claims and one can understand their argument, but they have to cater to what many users need is hot coffee. I am also facing this issue as so many users have complained. Nespresso should provide temp control and let users decide how warn or hot they need. This is a one sided opinion video. I will be returning my machine.
Return that machine,Good for you, Vishal. It IS my opinion. Backed with actual temperature recordings I made but as no-one else has contributed to making the video, it is "one-sided" I don't get paid by Nespresso and my review is independent. It' s coffee is hot enough for me. If anyone cares what you think they can read your comment and click like.
@@richwhilecooper sure You are entitled to your opinion. That is fair. Fact that you created a video to refute other folks claims. But you said at the end of video that machine does not make hot coffee claim is not true. Many folks are complaining and these are expensive machines. And you are responding to user whi state he is going to go with kerrigan and you said don't burn yourself. So you are trying to influences other folks. Come on !
If you think the coffee is not hot, brew a mug-size and I dare you to just chug it down. Or pour it on your crotch. See if I'm lying. You can make a video about it. I'd definitely sub.
@@richwhilecooper Do get butt hurt dude. He's stating facts
I'm not the one wading in on a 6 month old discussion thread. Scroll on, lad. Your concern for my butt is duly noted, thank you.
That's great and all, but my brand new machine has yet to produce a single cup above 46deg C. It seems that Nespresso machines are just horribly unreliable, including a significant amount of DOAs. (Mine is the round head by Breville)
I must be the lucky one. Luckyish anyway. My first machine (this one) died after just over 3 years- developed a leak and to get a new one free, all I had to do was get a bit extra coffee on my next order New one is almost a year old with no issues. Sadly I have heard several people comment like yourself and it's important to acknowledge...but it's a shame because like several people who are having poor customer service and faulty machines, it tarnishes what should be a good product. I still stand by mine, use it several times a day an the coffee is certainly hot enough for me. However, there are too many reports like yours to ingnore. Sorry you're having trouble.
My espresso/lungo in the Citiz (original style) gets nowhere near that hot. Even after passing 3-4 times with water only, the max temp I get coming out is 68. The first pass temp is 57. I have descaled my machine as directed, and it's always this cold. Conversely, my Keurig always comes out at 82-83. If you ever have the chance to drink the Nespresso from a colder-brewing machine, you'll see that the flavor is lacking. How do I know? Because, when I heat the water to 80 degrees, then put it in my Nespresso tank - the resulting espresso or lungo is EXPONENTIALLY better.
which machine you have?
It must be faulty to be so cool. I imagine the designers tested for optimum brewing temps and most seem to be around 80-86°C. I'm not suprised your coffee is better when hotter. Sad that youbone machine isn't working properly. It must be annoying.
I need to make one using my Pixie and see if that is any different. There is undoubtedly a sweet spot for brewing temp for specific beans, blends and grinds. But that's for a James Hoffman video not a Rich While-Cooper one I think lol.
This is a good video for some perhaps. I just want to know how to make the coffee hotter. This is wayyyyy too much information but thanks.
I thought a lot of work went into making this video, never mind the expense of the pods. Interesting stuff all the same!
There is nothing to do about that. Its a french/italian style coffe machine.
American style temp is just under 90.
Most people are use to that
I know this... but boy, do people complain that it doesn't brew with live steam!
The temp is different on the Next model i got pics of digital and analog test
I did not as extensively test the Next as the VP. What were your results?
I searched for "nespresso not hot enough" and after looking at a lot of videos, my conclusion is it just isnt hot enough. I was given this as a fathers day present, and too bad I dont like it. The only answer at this point is try to return it or just stick the warm coffee in the microwave. I was drinking instant coffee before and I like this taste of nespresso, just not hot enough. My cinstant coffee even with cold milk added after is much hotter. Yah I'm one of those guys that got to have it hot. Anyway after trying nespresso, it has inspire me to find another brand. Anyone have any suggestions.
I have heard the Kuerig makes it very hot. But i do'n't know. I think if you make your frothed milk with live steam that's going to make a difference. Anything bigger than an espresso would normally be an espresso shot or two topped up with either milk or hot water. Not sure how a barrista does that.
I would take 40ml water in your cup. Boil it in the nuker, and brew it like normal but turn off the machine just before the last 40ml. That's my method but experiment with how much water you need versus temperature. I also boil my milk in the mug I drink out of to make it as hot as possible. The machine needs approximately 3 to 5 seconds to stop.
Well this wasn’t a problem with my Keurig
It's not a problem with my Nespresso.
Its the milk frother that i want hotter, but on this model i dont think i can make it hotter
You dont need a thermometer, stick your damn finger under the nozzle its not hot enough. What a joke. They want a fortune for this thing but the temp are lacking big time. I shouldnt have to put it in the microwave after it goes into my cup.
I'm sorry your machine is not working correctly. "The American Burn Association states that a scalding injury can occur when skin is placed in contact with water measuring 155 degrees Fahrenheit, or 68 degrees Celsius, for one second".
"At 60°C, it takes one second for hot water to cause third-degree burns. At 55°C, it takes 10 seconds for hot water to cause third-degree burns. At 50°C, it takes five minutes for hot water to cause third-degree burns." www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/conditionsandtreatments/burns-and-scalds-children#:~:text=At%2060%C2%B0C%2C%20it,to%20cause%20third%2Ddegree%20burns.
The measurements I made are often way over these. Do NOT put your finger in the stream. This would be reckless. If you machine is not brewing hot it is faulty. It appears to be a common fault especially in the US.
You should work for NASA testing their coffee machine.
I WOULD have been an astronaut but the cost in fuel to get me into orbit was too high, they said.
🤣 - you’re not that big a guy are yer?
I've never, as an adult, been what you might call 'slight of build'.
Well, your video was very detailed and informative and I thank you sir.
Thanks for watching and commenting!!
I just bought a Nespresso machine. Because I’d this. I’m returning and going back to Kerrigan.
Try not to burn yourself...
Thanks for that.
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Mad scientist over here
Given the content exactly matches the title that's not a fair comment. The coffee IS, by any measure, hot enough and so it debunks the idea the coffee is somehow not. If you can't be constructive I'll delete your comments.
Edit : I need to lighten up. It's much more fun to be less serious.
@@richwhilecooper I sincerely apologise