Crazy or Brilliant? New 2024 Dodge Charger Electric Muscle Car Debuts
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- What do you think of the new 2024 Dodge Charger electric muscle car? Is it crazy or brilliant idea by the company? They will also offer two different gas powertrains, but no Hemi V8. Tim covers the details and gives you his take on the new car.
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As a long-time, old-school Mopar Man, I'm gonna pass and say it like this:
Due to my past experience owning Chrysler products and my past experience with Chrysler dealers, I can say unequivocally that under no circumstances will another one of their products ever have my name on the ownership.
100%
If its Electric........its not a muscle car!!....period!
It will be interesting to watch their stock price over the next few years
Especially after they file bankruptcy
Crazy...especially if it doesn't even beat the Tesla Model S Plaid, it isn't a "muscle" car.
Ehh….They’ll probably over price it anyway.
Probably? Overpriced is in the name.
This channel is a great idea, Tim. You've got too much automotive knowledge to only do trucks.
Thanks Dave!
If you want to add electric then use them to make the drivetrains more efficient, don't eliminate the v8 all together.
Sorry but has to be a v8 to be a muscle car lol
How well does it work in cold weather and charging time in real world?
Reduced range in the cold and charging time really depends on charger speed.
Giving new meaning to the term “Burn Out”
LOL
I agree the charger ev daily is way better than a jelly bean ev.If the price is right I'm in.
Someone will buy it
EV vs gas aside, let's really think about how this will compete in the space. The mid range Scat Pack will probably cost upper $60,000 range. Has under 270 mile range, 11.5 1/4 and weighs almost 6000lbs.
The comparable Model S Long Range costs the same, weighs 1000lbs less, has way more range, and does the 1/4 in 10.7 seconds.
It's not a gasoline muscle car, it's a terrible EV performer, why waste the money.
Those are awesome!! I'm keeping my Challenger and Trading my jelly bean Chevy Bolt to daily drive a Charger EV!!! I couldn't be happier!! Hell Yeah!!!
The car looks great.. past that it’s meh
Yeah it does look great and the interior looks top notch. Imagine if they put the hellcat in this 😂
EV sales are down in the US and I think they’ve saturated the market of the minority of Americans that actually like EVs. Pretty much everyone that likes EVs here already have one by now. Now the industry is trying to change the rest of our minds. EV prices are dropping like a stone. The tax incentive for these things is overblown. It’s $7500 but they act like it’s a credit you get when buying it, which it’s not. You have to file it on your tax return and many people don’t qualify for it.
The timing of this thing couldn’t be worse. I hope it flops. They need to get the inline 6 version released soon. Or an inline 6 hybrid would be very interesting.
Great collector car. Last Dodge made before the collapse.
I think they changed the EV credit to apply at time of purchase with the latest transportation bill. I completely agree with the rest of what you said.
@@TimEsterdahl thanks, I wasn't aware of that. I know a few people who've bought EVs within the last couple of years and none of them qualified for the credit. I have to think if they apply the credit when the purchase is made, this will only lead to manufacturers to drive up the prices. Handouts rarely have the intended effect.
That’s easy. Crazy.
Imagine buying a electric car from dodge 😂. Bet that will be reliable
Wouldn't the Tesla Model S quality as the first electric muscle car?
I would think so.
I imagine we will see a Challenger soon sometime. Chrysler didn't say a word about a 4door until the reveal. Also a Stellantis large platform Chrysler 300.
Max speed of my V8 Scat pack is 175 mph. The EV max speed is 137 mph. I think discission is obvious.
I dislike Ev's but this is a terrible argument. Most Ev's, including this one, would smoke your Scat pack... They'd be over the finish line before you even matched their top speed. Thags just the nature of battery powered cars.
@@501Labs EV cars are quicker but not faster. Once I hit 137 mph I can still keep going. EV cars cannot do that., the batteries will overheat, and the car will shut down. I tried that on my wife's Ioniq 6, It's max speed is 118 mph, just cuts off immediately.
@@501LabsThat's not even close to true. With the way you can mod ICE cars, you can get them down to a high 6 second car. What you see is what you get with EVs. Plus, you've clearly not watched actual street racing from a 60mph roll. There are 25 year old Honda Civics that would smoke any EV in a roll.
@henrytong8707 Its not about who cam go faster. Its about who can go faster, quicker. You're not even gonna hit 137 in most races. So it doesn't matter if you can go 175 because you're not hitting 175 anyways. Its about who can get over the line the fastest... and thats not you when you're doing gas vs EV unless you dump a ridiculous amount of power/money into a gas car. By the time u hit 175 the race will have been over for 5 seconds. but sure... I guess you're going 175 in second place
@sammiches6859 a 6 second car? lmaoo Tell me you dont know what you're talking about without telling me you dont know what you're talking about. A SIX SECOND CAR?!?!My sisters 3.7 mustang v6 is a 6 second car. A tesla is a 3.7 second car.... in order to even match that you're looking at 80,000 in modifications to an honda civic.. thats not realistic for *most* people. Plus ... nobody is out here doing 60 mph roll ... thats already speed limit. Standard races are from a drag or atleast 40 ... Listen dude... im on the side of ICE ... I drive a modded 5.0... I hate Evs... but im not delusional about their power. You can "feel" however yoh want or throw the ridiculous fact that you "technically" can make an ICE faster... but you have to concede that its ridiculously expensive and 99% of people arnt doing that so its an invalid argument
Yk what sucks. I really like the design. I love the exterior, and I really love the interior. I also like the EV, but that’s not the issue for me. The main issue for me is that there’s no v8 option. I don’t mind an EV charger. It’s pretty cool, but they’re polarizing their base just like every business in the last 7 years. I just don’t understand what it’s going to take for these companies to understand that they are what they are because of us, not a government mandate.
Sales. That’s what it is going to take. Once people don’t buy them, they are going to have to change like we are seeing with GM and Ford rolling back some big EV plans.
Doesn't feel right to me either. There's definitely a place for EVs. But, that's a different application that shouldn't dictate the characteristics of every car for every person in every situation. (And yes... exhaust note makes a big difference.)
I don't see it (ev) as compelling unless it pulls 8's. I'd still rather have a Hemi but they'll sell a few to TH-camrs.
Now they release a 2 door. Crappy move i think
Fn right get use to it
The 2024 Dodge charger is sweet inside and out but an EV no thank you I am not in the least bit interested
TOP SPEED 135 mph on this new electric machines?. Imagine a teenager kicking your ass by passing you on the highway with his old beat up Honda Civic with a big ass ridiculous muffler tip just because your BRAND NEW electric car tops out at 135 mph. Freaking embarrassing. Oh man! Go get yourself a 2023 Challenger/Charger while they still last at the Dealerships.
Do I hear bail out , dodge in the 80s brought back the charger, hatchback 2.2L on the k car plat form, bone head move back then and history repeats
The Mach 1 has fake exhaust sounds, this EV will too.
Who knew Cadillac would have the last supercharged v8
Man, that’s a great point.
The new Shelby GT500 is coming out at the end of 2025. Ford has no plans to discontinue V8's
The last thing you wanna do is buy a fucking electric car from DODGE..i can see the fires already
RIP dodge 😂
The traditional Muscle Car guys will pooh-pooh it, but then be pissed when they are torched off the line! This isn't the car for them, but will be the loudest knocking it. I am not clear what Stellantis is doing.
Torched? Your an idiot.
Everyone knows the Challenger/Charger platforms are already overweight pigs based on mostly W211 chassis parts. Now they want to add more weight? And what tires will handle this added weight? Very expensive ones. I'll let everyone in on a secret, ICE engines aren't going anywhere in the next couple of decades. It's the global government pushing electric cars, but they will quickly drop the requirement when we get closer to the deadline and the manufacturers start to really complain.
EV muscle car is my dream car, I had been planning a custom build until I saw the EV charger, I don't want the fake exhaust or fake trans though, super dumb
I’m intrigued by EVs. I’m seriously considering one as a second vehicle. But not a muscle car. If I own a muscle car it has to have the sound and feel of a V8. Maybe the SST will be cool. We’ll see!
We used to use clothes pins to attach playing cards to rub the bicycle spokes for engine like sound to my 8 yr old ears. Putting exhaust tip speakers on electric car will appeal to any one with IQ of an 8 yr old. Another fail from the latest crop of DEI hired so-called engineers.
No thank you
It’s like if a really good steak house went vegan I’m expect the people who really like stage to keep eating not gonna happen
Its just weird going from the most obnoxious Muscle Car producer to the far opposite end. I think people would have been more receptive if they had done it like the E-ray and used the electric motor as a supplement to a V8 or V6. An EV muscle car is an oxymoron and to me this is turning on your fans and selling out in a big way.
I mean... its a business... selling out is literally their main incentive. People liking it is a plus. Its never about the consumer when it comes to these big businesses.
If it is not a muscle car, you might as well drive a tesla. They will probably be higher quality.
Tim Kuniskis Killed Dodge
Dumb dumb dumb! Ill never own an ev if i can help it.
If they make it with a twin turbo inline 6 with AWD then yes
I don't care about all wheel drive, they're harder to work on and the gas mileage suffers. As for their small overblown 6? No thanks. I guess I'll sit this one out.
I'd love one.
It would be fun wasting other people making zero noise. Or just driving it with zero noise.
My gen1 hemi with zoomies and my 440 are loud if i wanna scare the goats.
But who on here can even afford a new car? Not me. New cars are for stupid people.
Ya its most likely gonna flop
It's ugly or very plain at best. It's slow and way too heavy it will flop big time.
I think it's a bit of both, on the one hand it's crazy because the idea of an electric muscle car is novel and new.
At the same time it's brilliant because Dodge is pushing the segment in a new direction on the EV side (let's not forget they did make an AWD Challenger a few years back.
As for the gas models, they will definitely be the ones to watch. American muscle fans have always preached the virtues of a proper V8 and for some the idea of an inline-six that has less cylinders might not compute with some loyalists
I’m a V8 guy for sure but I do respect a good I6. The Ford Barra, Toyota 2JZ, and even the old diesel Cummins have more than proved themselves. Strangely though I’m not a fan of a V6. Ford has done good with the 3.5 Ecoboost along with the Buick Grand National and Chevy Syclone making a name for themselves but I feel the I6 just has better potential than a V6.
NO SUCH THING AS AN ELECTRIC MUSCLE CAR
As a hemi charger owner the fake exhaust speakers offend me at a fundamental level.
Electric. Nope.
Electric muscle is a misnomer. A muscle car is a car that is a rear-wheel drive American V8. This is a square Tesla with a V6 option, nothing more (that will be bought to do Hemi-swaps.) Dodge is neither crazy, nor are they brilliant. Killing their V8's is a stupid plan, and the only good thing is, Chargers are going back to being two door coupes like they are supposed to be. The only car company left making Muscle cars is Ford. Sure, the new Mustangs look like Camaros, but they even come with a manual option still, and the Coyote is here to stay. Stellantis is going to ruin Dodge beyond repair because they don't understand America's love for real muscle. Let the AMC treatment commence.
This car is not a charger. No scallops in the door, not a charger. Remove the R wing and it's an intrepid. No V8, not a muscle car. Just call it what it is an electric Dodge intrepid.....And the 6 Cylinders Dodge cars can sit in the same space as the BMW, Supra, GTR, You can make these cars very, very fast but still not a muscle car. Chevy Camaro, Ford Mustang, pony cars. Corvette, sports car. Dodge Charger, Sedan. All these cars can race on 1/8 mile 1/4 Mile 1/5 mile track does not make them a muscle car. "Dodge Challenger, muscle car".... This is just my opinion on How things work in my head. And I'm 64 years old and I'm bias, so there's that.
I will give this a chance. I want to see it race. Hard to ignore winners.
I'll pass. Besides the fact that it is sorta ugly, the EV thing is a huge turnoff. I wouldn't trade my old Toyota truck for five new Teslas (or this Dodge EV). I would like to get a Challenger... obviously a used one.
Dodge is running a gimmick on the consumer. An electric vehicle isn't a muscle car. These cars are impostors. Fratzonic exhaust is like a woman with having a BBL it's not real.
It might be a good idea going after customers who want sport looking with ev speed. It would be a second car for fun….
Brilliant move. Finally a Charger 2 door that looks like a futuristic Challenger. It looks nothing like a heritage Charger but, quite a bit of previous Challenger. EVs are coming, us V8ers have to deal. It's that or $12/gal gas.
Get real. There is no $12/gal gas nor will there be anytime soon.
I'm serious. Ever take an economic course? Supply and demand, As EVs take offless gas will be sold & prices will go up not to $12 right away but it will be coming My son's new build house will have an EV charger in the garage. Get ready to adapt.Challengers will make an excellent 2nd fun car.@@songj0056
Electric and muscle car should not be used in the same sentence.
Neither crazy or brilliant, flat out stupid.
Dodge is stupid. Who the heck would buy an electric car from a manufacturer that has tons of electrical problems on their regular cars?
You look like that Esterado guy that reviews trucks with the 10 year old girl.
Guilty as charged?
This is going to be a disaster
Dodge catfished us. They went from a good looking concept to its ugly sister version.
Ford did it right by keeping the Ford Mustang with a V8 the Mustang is the only true muscle car still alive unlike with Chevy killing the Camaro and Dodge killing the Challenger and Charger which for dodge was a big mistake to do because that's one of their best selling vehicles I would bet also Stellantis does not know what Americans want instead they do things on what they want instead of knowing what Americans want this so called EV muscle car I will not call it that at all it's a EV vehicle like every other EV vehicle boring lame Ford did not cave into the woke Radical environmentalists groups and such. EVs only make sense in City's only everywhere else EVs do not make sense at all EVs belong in a junk yard it's a waste of money and it's pointless. ICE vehicles will reamin king with the next president election it's pretty obvious that EVs will most likely be axed or cut back even more and ICE vehicles that are powered by gas or diesel will remain and stay. Ford is the only one with a true muscle car with their Mustang with a V8.