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Always fun to watch. I think DCS is very generous when it comes to modeling Russian capabilities. In a real fight, personally, I don't think any Russian fighter would be able to lock-up a F22. The only exception would be if it was on the F22's tail.
@@tonyennis1787 It's not a star of david... it's a triangle, and an inverted triangle... It indicates that the target is at the maximum range of an AMRAAM. single triangle is used to indicate maximum range on, i think, the Sparrow.
@@joseglenn20Objects on the ground help in several ways, they difficult radar's work or missiles could hit said objects, like in the video, noting like that in the water.
@@joseglenn20 The AMRAAM's internal radar is nowhere nearly as sophisticated as what is on the F-22 (for rather obvious cost, size and weight reasons). Ground clutter, as it is called, is the irregular and constantly changing radar return from the ground itself, and it's hard for the radar (or rather, processing unit) to separate out one moving thing against a backdrop of constant "noise" like that. As soon as you go over water, especially calm water, it gets much easier to detect the aircraft. So if you can get under the missile and over a hilly forrest you have an advantage. Getting under the missile, but over a calm lake, is about the same as letting it track you on the backdrop of empty sky.
Funny how the Su-57 was externally carrying 2 massive missiles and still able to lock you before you even detect him. Those Russian missiles must have stealth-improving capabilities.
Imagine how dangerous the Russians would have been if they didnt have to start again when the USSR fell and if they didnt live through perpetual western sanctions...
If i remember correctly, the F-22 is an all weather air superiority stealth fighter. The B-2 spirit and the F-35 are the ones who have a bit of a struggle in rain.
As an eternal fan of naval terminology and the age of sail I dig the use of "put it on the beam" as a term for flying perpendicular to the track of the incoming missile.
Thanks. I'm new to the channel (And air combat in general. I was in the artillery) and there is a whole lot of lingo that I'm trying to piece together.
I watched a video about the Su57 that explained the design principles. The primary goal of the project was to counter stealth aircraft, and a significant part of the budget was spent on neutralizing stealth. One example of this is using l band radar which lacks the precision to target, but has much greater range at the same power level, and is capable of tracking stealth aircraft, at range. My theory is they use Lband radar to narrow the search window of thier asea radar, allowing to focus all the power of thier radar on a tiny area.
AIM-120D-3 is what the F-22 would be carrying and soon the AIM-260 JATM which will out shoot everything and everyone, basically making the F-22 truly invincible for years to come.
It seems like it’s not the F22 vs Su 57. It’s the F22 vs the Russian missile and the Su 57 vs the American missile. Both the F22 and the Su57 launch missiles at each other before either is destroyed. Neither airplane attempts to kill the missile chasing them. Whoever wins on defense against the missile wins the battle. The airplanes have ceased to be in the dogfight with their opponent but are in something like a dogfight against the incoming missile.
It's a resolution thing. Imagine having a rifle scope that can't see camouflaged animal, then having a thermal scope that can see a blurry heat spot. You can shoot at it, but if it's blurry, you might not hit it.
@@kerbalairforce8802 but to your point low freq radars aren’t putting out and receiving the number of pulses needed to get a high res return to get a track for a firing solution.
Still do not understand how R-37M missiles manage to get within few miles of an F-22 (tracking it all the time) but seem to miss at the last moment while the radar signature of the F-22 should be at the maximum. Ground clutter + chaff explains it all? Great video as always!
After the missile booster runs out, it's slowing down. If it constantly has to turn to chase the 22, it's losing speed even more. Eventually, it just can't turn with enough energy to keep chasing the 22.
Also the r37m hypersonic missile is intended to kill targets like tankers and awacs planes so it is not really good at making precise manuevers to keep up with fast and manueverable aircraft like f22 if you watch the f22 vs mig31 vid you will get what i mean
Yeah but im from turkey and because of economic reasons i dont see the fighter becoming a reality in numbers i am hopefull but its what happened with turkeys altay tank sometimes it is just to get some atention from voters
I've come to like the BVR engagement videos more than the dogfight videos. There's a completely different skill set at play in the BVR engagements, including a little bit of suspense about whether or not a BVR missile shot is going to find its target, and I find it very compelling.
This is 100% the correct attitude. And if they COULD see they were silly to tell you but since they did treat it like a fact and don’t underestimate your foe. This is 100% the correct attitude to have something that is in verrrrrry low supply these days with everyone believing a lot of the propaganda out there.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Exactly. From a "Math" gamer point of view, think of it as "If I don't defend, and it can find me, then I lose. If I do defend and it can find me, I might not lose. If I do defend and it can't see me then I win. Broiling it down: IF I defend, I maximize my chances of winning. IF I don't defend, then I maximize my chances of losing. Defend anyway."
I was really hoping the title would be "F-22 Raptor Vs Su-57 | Severely outmatched | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |" I would've died laughing at that title
kimchi2780, the same thing goes to F22, and it mostly tries to crash in land and ground. It has good accident records. They get hugh tax payment for that.
Would you consider a tip of the spear type mission against every top tier Russian asset i.e. s400 su57 su35 su27 and AWACS and go after a ballistic missile compound with several f22/35/15ex.. top tier vs top tier???
It's funny how the F22's cockpit has animated vibration upon missile launch when zoomed into the HUD, despite ejection is done by pheumatics with the use of AVEL, which should not transfer vibration onto the airframe.
I wonder if missiles that can reacquire targets on it's own are dangerous to friendlies too. Or do the missile have some sort of technology to never target a friendly?
I would like to see a 4 ship battle no allies between F-22, SU-57, J-20 and SU-35, Starting From North, South, East, and West, fight though all fighters to kill remaining AWACS. I think it would be interesting to see who wins.
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F35 Vs gripen? Youve done this video like 10 times
Always fun to watch. I think DCS is very generous when it comes to modeling Russian capabilities. In a real fight, personally, I don't think any Russian fighter would be able to lock-up a F22. The only exception would be if it was on the F22's tail.
NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx
11:14 what's the "Star of David" on the HUD?
@@tonyennis1787 It's not a star of david... it's a triangle, and an inverted triangle... It indicates that the target is at the maximum range of an AMRAAM. single triangle is used to indicate maximum range on, i think, the Sparrow.
8:47
Radar told the Su-57 missile to hit the bumble bee and it went after an actual beehive.
Still waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”
This needs more likes🤣💯
Same
Same 😊
Bump
Yoooo pls
"You've yee'd your last Haw Felon" - F-22 pilots probably
“You’ve Aced your last Combat.”
60 Su57 in the end of 2024 and 150 F22, 60 isnt much, but 150 isnt either
Come on dude don't make fun of them. They only have 2 felons left now. 😭😭
@@miguelpericas6154 You'd be surprised of how effective those numbers are.
@@johns1625 2 should I say 40.
NOTHING gets me hyped like that first Sonic Boom 💥
Its such an awesome sound, especially when your in the cockpit.
Worst decision the pilot could have made was going on water and he actually did that
Correct. Should have stayed over land.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Why??
@@joseglenn20Objects on the ground help in several ways, they difficult radar's work or missiles could hit said objects, like in the video, noting like that in the water.
@@joseglenn20 The AMRAAM's internal radar is nowhere nearly as sophisticated as what is on the F-22 (for rather obvious cost, size and weight reasons). Ground clutter, as it is called, is the irregular and constantly changing radar return from the ground itself, and it's hard for the radar (or rather, processing unit) to separate out one moving thing against a backdrop of constant "noise" like that. As soon as you go over water, especially calm water, it gets much easier to detect the aircraft. So if you can get under the missile and over a hilly forrest you have an advantage. Getting under the missile, but over a calm lake, is about the same as letting it track you on the backdrop of empty sky.
@joseglenn20, why? Because the match could have been a better and more intense fight.
Funny how the Su-57 was externally carrying 2 massive missiles and still able to lock you before you even detect him.
Those Russian missiles must have stealth-improving capabilities.
We do. But they don't.
Imagine how dangerous the Russians would have been if they didnt have to start again when the USSR fell and if they didnt live through perpetual western sanctions...
Womp womp
This is a commercial simulator. You say like this is the real deal with actual military data
Well, cant see what your radar isn't aiming at. thats how these things go.
"I'm in a snowstorm here."
_Precipitation!_ The Raptor's one weakness...
What about thunderstorms? Or was it F35's no go...
If i remember correctly, the F-22 is an all weather air superiority stealth fighter. The B-2 spirit and the F-35 are the ones who have a bit of a struggle in rain.
@@FA-18ESuperHornet-jm7my Their much cheaper RAM struggles a bit more in some regimes, but is more easily replaced--hence the design choice to use it.
Isn’t that an urban legend from the early days of F-117 public knowledge?
Are you gonna be kidding me.
I was not expecting to see a SU-57 to disintegrate like that
Happens pretty often on this channel actually
Russian build quality
@@Ankhobo been here for a while never seen a SU-57 disintegrate like that
I think he was supersonic when it hit. Maybe DCS has a damage model for that.
@@jacobcones2803 the plane going poof like that definitely has happened a few times before.
Here's how to best protect your AWACS..., tell it to go land.
@@pyronuke4768 Point is, he didn't need it.
@@pyronuke4768 *glances at mission editor options*
And why the hell does the Su-57 need AWACS?
As an eternal fan of naval terminology and the age of sail I dig the use of "put it on the beam" as a term for flying perpendicular to the track of the incoming missile.
Thanks. I'm new to the channel (And air combat in general. I was in the artillery) and there is a whole lot of lingo that I'm trying to piece together.
@@andersjjensenGS has a bunch of air combat basics videos if I remember correctly that explain some of these concepts; you might wanna seek some out
@@theflightguy8726 Thanks!
9:18 LMAO that aim 120 completely disappeared the felon
To say that your "missile finds him" is a wee bit of an understatement!!!
That Felon glitched when it got hit by that AMRAAM 😳
Su 57 down
10:09 It's possible I hit him and he FELON to the water 🤣
I don’t get it…
@@robthames5065he fell into the water. FELON into the water lmao.🤣
Don't worry I get it the other guy is clueless🤣😂
I watched a video about the Su57 that explained the design principles.
The primary goal of the project was to counter stealth aircraft, and a significant part of the budget was spent on neutralizing stealth.
One example of this is using l band radar which lacks the precision to target, but has much greater range at the same power level, and is capable of tracking stealth aircraft, at range.
My theory is they use Lband radar to narrow the search window of thier asea radar, allowing to focus all the power of thier radar on a tiny area.
I was watching through some of the old IL-2 stuff, love to see more of that sometime soon sir!
That Felon just vanished into the Multiverse I think. lol Well done.
Didn’t expect the felon to just disintegrate like that lol
The Kid to the Felon, "So if you're lonely, you know I'm here waiting for you. "
Just saw the Raptor today at an air show, it’s unbelievable.
Dang. Here early. You should do the Su-25 v Su-57 since you've done the F-22 v A-10
F22 said," POOF BE GONE"
The fact that anyone was able to parachute out of that AWACS while it was spinning and burning completely out of control is a miracle.
AIM-120D-3 is what the F-22 would be carrying and soon the AIM-260 JATM which will out shoot everything and everyone, basically making the F-22 truly invincible for years to come.
the r-77 will be coping and seething if it could
You know what does need the aim 260, the f15EX, it would be an absolute machine with 12 of those strapped to its wings
Great news big brother 🦅🇺🇲🇳🇿
@@isaac77655you’re not gonna believe this
@@isaac77655 lmao every time I see F15EX I see something else entirely.......
I heard those Russians shouting in my head when the second amraam hit them "BLYAT"
I'm surprised three got out.
🤭🤣🤭👍💯
Are you really using reverse psychology on these confidence seeking missiles? 😆
LOOOL
Damn, that fox 3 straight up juiced him
Pulp free!
Hey, I would love to see the tac-view come back sometimes. Was always a good visual on where the missiles got defeated etc..
* F22 smacks lips *
"...I'd intercept me"
Ah, fellow well cultured man
Would be nice to see you flying the su57 to see how you would use the hypersonics!!!
He has a few videos of him fighting F-22s and Eurofighters in the Felon
I am seeing a serious parallel here with the Seawolf class submarine vs the Akula ore even the Yasen
"Vaporized... blown out to sea" - dude got absolutely starched
It seems like it’s not the F22 vs Su 57. It’s the F22 vs the Russian missile and the Su 57 vs the American missile. Both the F22 and the Su57 launch missiles at each other before either is destroyed. Neither airplane attempts to kill the missile chasing them. Whoever wins on defense against the missile wins the battle. The airplanes have ceased to be in the dogfight with their opponent but are in something like a dogfight against the incoming missile.
They say their low freq radar can detect it but I highly doubt it can get enough of a return to get a lock.
It's a resolution thing.
Imagine having a rifle scope that can't see camouflaged animal, then having a thermal scope that can see a blurry heat spot. You can shoot at it, but if it's blurry, you might not hit it.
@@kerbalairforce8802 radar is my job, I just think it’s funny everyone thinks they can defend against an F-22 until it’s in their backyard.
@@kerbalairforce8802 but to your point low freq radars aren’t putting out and receiving the number of pulses needed to get a high res return to get a track for a firing solution.
@@cgallagher04 this fancy shit is being told for a centuries, each time before "general Moroz" comes in
No electrons were hurt while making this video.
“Lemme show you a magic trick. I’m gonna make a Felon disappear. POOF! GONE!”
You've gotta get someone to sneak up on your left side in a Raptor and mutter "Clever Girl" just before getting smoked.
That missile into the tree struck its target. Some squirrel named Rocky.
Natasha was mortified.
Holy smokes, that was scary. :D
Now vhere is moose?
GS, I believe you are one of the best PC pilots i've ever seen. You rock, and thanks again for your content.
F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
Day 54
Still do not understand how R-37M missiles manage to get within few miles of an F-22 (tracking it all the time) but seem to miss at the last moment while the radar signature of the F-22 should be at the maximum. Ground clutter + chaff explains it all? Great video as always!
The radar isn’t as good in a missile seeker plus aspect change combined with what you’ve already said would be my guess
this is a simulation.
After the missile booster runs out, it's slowing down. If it constantly has to turn to chase the 22, it's losing speed even more. Eventually, it just can't turn with enough energy to keep chasing the 22.
Also the r37m hypersonic missile is intended to kill targets like tankers and awacs planes so it is not really good at making precise manuevers to keep up with fast and manueverable aircraft like f22 if you watch the f22 vs mig31 vid you will get what i mean
was eating cereal and this came up lets go
et tu?
*noms on granola*
I hope we are going to see Turkish made KAAN on DCS soon. I am so impatient to see her performance during BVR and VWR conflicts
Yeah but im from turkey and because of economic reasons i dont see the fighter becoming a reality in numbers i am hopefull but its what happened with turkeys altay tank sometimes it is just to get some atention from voters
It will be fun to revisit this once the AIM260 is on DCS since the F22 is first in line!
Hahahaha, he turned into pink mist leaving you, "wait, what?"
Fun fact: you can blend into ground clutter...
...if you get shot down.
This is so freakin underrated
9:21 well dang
I didn't expect him to do that
Hope he enjoys the Shadow Realm
I've come to like the BVR engagement videos more than the dogfight videos. There's a completely different skill set at play in the BVR engagements, including a little bit of suspense about whether or not a BVR missile shot is going to find its target, and I find it very compelling.
That missile trisected bro thats craaazy☠️💀
NGAD VS EVERYTHING! Heavy Mountain Terrain
Thanks for uploading this the day I saw the F22 Demo in my home state. My ears are still recovering….
That hit on the Felon caught me by surprise.
Damn! That Felon exploded!
Always expect the best of your enemy if the russians say they can see then act like it never get complacent
This is 100% the correct attitude. And if they COULD see they were silly to tell you but since they did treat it like a fact and don’t underestimate your foe. This is 100% the correct attitude to have something that is in verrrrrry low supply these days with everyone believing a lot of the propaganda out there.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Exactly.
From a "Math" gamer point of view, think of it as "If I don't defend, and it can find me, then I lose. If I do defend and it can find me, I might not lose. If I do defend and it can't see me then I win. Broiling it down: IF I defend, I maximize my chances of winning. IF I don't defend, then I maximize my chances of losing. Defend anyway."
I can't imagine how nerve wracking it would be to not have confirmation of a kill in a stealth on stealth fight.
I was really hoping the title would be "F-22 Raptor Vs Su-57 | Severely outmatched | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |" I would've died laughing at that title
Su-57 literally went invisible
Just like real life they are invisible, because they aren't around.
true stealth achieved
kimchi2780, the same thing goes to F22, and it mostly tries to crash in land and ground. It has good accident records. They get hugh tax payment for that.
@@heatblast876there’s a lot more f22s though lol
@@thyunholysinner5389 Yeah, like there's more F35 than F22, F35 will crush F22 in BVR match. Now cry.
All of you talking about how stealthy the F22 is, but just look. The Su57 disappeared without a trace
Would you consider a tip of the spear type mission against every top tier Russian asset i.e. s400 su57 su35 su27 and AWACS and go after a ballistic missile compound with several f22/35/15ex.. top tier vs top tier???
I mean, the F22 isn't winning the beauty contest between the two.
Love your videos by the way.
Good luck seeing a bumblebee in a snow storm….
This is the first time I have seen the Felon do something other than lawn-dart when it is destroyed.
@9:15 "let me show you a magic trick.......and....its....gone!"
Great kill, terrific flight!
We really need to get the AIM260 into production 😁
Now that there are two dedicated fighters in it, would be fun to see some videos in Nuclear Option from you
Were you and Habitual Line Crosser been sharing notes?
Great video GS would love to see you doing the same in the Felon.
👏 let’s Go GS! Get one for the good guys
SU just completely disappeared. Nice magic trick.
That's their stealth kicking in.
10:10 I guess you could say he FELON to the water!
Groan.
You said " He Felon to the water" hehehe
10:10 And he “Felon” to the water, LOL!
Amazing video 👏!!! Thanks!!!
It's funny how the F22's cockpit has animated vibration upon missile launch when zoomed into the HUD, despite ejection is done by pheumatics with the use of AVEL, which should not transfer vibration onto the airframe.
I wonder if missiles that can reacquire targets on it's own are dangerous to friendlies too. Or do the missile have some sort of technology to never target a friendly?
That’s correct they can indeed target friendlies. That’s why you shouldn’t shoot a fox3 into an area where you have a lot of friendlies
With this birds electro optical ir and real dogfights back on the table ^^
I worked as a crew chief on the exact F-22 GS is flying. Langley AFB.
Snowstorm: hope you didn't like that RAM coating🤭
You should do a free for all, of the F-22, Su-57, and the J20
I was waiting for the usual boom only for the felon to get disintegrated
The missles are soooo hidden which is amazing, because we dont need to show the emnemy our arsenal to scare them, that scares them off just as much
can you do eithe po-2 vs f22 or i15 chaika dogfight everything
F22: “There’s no running for this”-GS
8:47 Random beehive doing last preparations for the winter.
I think I saw his turret blow straight up!! 😮 😂 😊 ❤
I would like to see a 4 ship battle no allies between F-22, SU-57, J-20 and SU-35, Starting From North, South, East, and West, fight though all fighters to kill remaining AWACS. I think it would be interesting to see who wins.
That was a whack explosion on the Felon. Did one of his missiles detonate??
I'd like to see this with you in the SU57!
The real kicker is that the Raptor is OLD tech. Yet look at that airframe. Look at how it dominates.
Interesting to see the YF-23 vs the Su-57
Question: why do the sparrows on a phantom shoot the pair in the rear of the airframe first?
The Su-57 combustion cracks me up every time
F22: Would you interspect me. I'd interspect me
Need to do one with the f22 and su 75 dog fight
i will never not watch the 2 leading 5th gen aircraft dogfight :)
I don't know if the simulator has it, but would be cool to see the yf23 vs the ngad
Why do you always bank left after firing?
I hope you can help mediate between ED and RB!