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Yep, Russians can definitely see "stealth". Since early 90s - look up Tamara radar made in Czech republic that's older system. I have served in a group equipped with these and the way it works is ingenious and very effective.
F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
Day 82
@@Mav09 Is it REALLY day 82?
Ya' know....those of us who have been requesting the same thing for a long period of time...we don't bother counting off how many days we've been asking, we just keep asking.
@@numberyellow I must keep counting! 💀
3:41 Russian EDM flyby is a nice touch😂
Yeah! Just like that video from the russian segment on the ISS 😅
yea
I'm glad someone caught that lmao
lmao….that would totally be something they would really do
I was dying. That was hilarious
"Stealth doesn't make you invisible."
*Flashbacks to "He'll essentially be flying completely blind... what is that? OH NO!!!"
Technically, even in that video, stealth didn't make the Raptor invisible.
You just need a mirror to spot it
@@SceurdiaStudios F-35 is not a "Raptor" ;)
@@kilijanek True, however SceurdiaStudios and I were referring to a clip from a previous video in which an F-22 sneaks up behind GS, forms up off his left wing and just hangs out until GS notices him in the mirror and initiates brown pants maneuvering. No F-35s in that video :)
"Dropping all chaffs heres..." + 2 wings and elevators.
Don't need those to fly do we? Highly over rated devices.
weight reduction
Maybe one day he will pilot the f35 😂
i hope so
Why would you want to?
Ya when there is a mature mod I would love to. We are just not there yet.
Fair enough 🖖🏿@@GrowlingSidewinder
@@M167A1 because we never see him flying it
The F35 constantly driving the R77 to the water is ingenious.
Does anyone else just get the idea that GS flies around, trying to pick a fight all the time?
Wait... I thought that WAS what he was doing?
8:37 who else heard "Cyka Blyat"
Hahaha. I was checking comments so I wasn’t crazy. Hilarious touch
Drink enough vodka and you can see stealth too.
Yeah. On the US carrier after being shot down and resvued by the US Navy.
So the Serbians were drinking a lot of vodka when they shot down that f117 lol
Lol
Random shots are bound to connect at some point.
@@MidnightAspecyou don't shootdown a stealth fighter with a random shot at the immense sky, it was a very good shootdown by the Serbians with the antique SAMs they had
The silent "Suka blyat" at 8:36 was hilarious!🤣🤣
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It's Cyka or Suka lol not mixed
The subtle Russian club mix on the external pass was pretty good too.
(Was hoping he'd have done the same with one of the F35 passes... "fortunate son" maybe?
I heard "SUPER BLYAT!!!"
@@stinkyfungusprobably had the windows down so we could hear it
Realistically, the F-35 wouldn't need to use its radar in this situation. It could get donor data from the E-2 or Aegis system and let that guide an AMRAAM or AIM-260 (soon) to the target. The F-35 wouldn't even need to crank and maintain a lock. It could simply turn away and let the missile do its job.
Also, if the missile is launched around 10 to 8 miles under the MAR, then there's a chance of intercepting the target easily also no escape zone.
But realistically an E2 or E3 wouldn't have a chance in Russian airspace due to long range SAMs, hypersonic missiles and just overall being a priority target that can actually be reached. But these are "what if" scenarios, just like this videos - not fact.
@@dimitri1154 don't need an AWACS... A pair of F-35s can share target data via their improved datalink and do the same job.... Though this would alert the Sukhois to their radar emissions.....Even stealthier if they use their EOTS in pairs to gain a lock, Su-35 would only know what's happening at the fox-3 pitbull
Yes indeed. I believe the F35 has a new frequency hopping radar that's very difficult to detect too.
I forgot about that… man the technology of modern American forces is absolutely insane
i like how the awacs used thrust reversers on landing .... would have ended badly!!
We gotta see u flying the f-35 yourself!!!
No cockpit model.
@@benn454 that's wild
@@benn454 as far as i know the flight model is just a f15 clone
@@datboi2232 Makes sense. Lot of mods use FC3 as a base.
@@datboi2232 worse than the F-15 though.
Read an interview with a F35 pilot who had experience from the F22. He held the newer F35 to be the better fighter in everything except BFM.
That include BVR?
For sure. The 35 is designed for networked BVM
It's definitely not better in stealth, looks or speed but ok.
It is 20 years newer!
@@mikeyplayzwrld Two generals have both been quoted saying that the F-35 has equal if not better stealth, and those comments were made around 2014 while development was still ongoing. In some aspects the F-22 has favourable geometry, but the F-35 is also smaller, had far better computational modelling, and better avionics contributing to its stealth. Top speed is irrelevant but F-35 has fantastic acceleration from subsonic to supersonic.
Su-35s for sure can see the stealth. When there's a straight visual contact between those.
just mount a S-125 Neva radar on it
Hopefully more f35 videos in the future
The subtle hardbass and cyka blyat took me off guard and were hilarious
35 on 35 action. Great video 👍
Yea I have wanted this video but it still looks like DCS still hasent fixed the Russian missile bug.
8:36 LFMAO, we need more of this!
F35 range to lock should be much smaller than SU35 so F35's should always be able to launch missiles much earlier.
its a shame the F-35 is missing some of its kit in DCS rn, would be cool to have a fully functional DAS/IRST and towed EW pod, especially in the radar missile meta here
Most of that stuff is highly classified
@@RT42069 I mean, yeah, but you can take an educated guess. IRST is likely comparable to those seen on Eurofighter and Rafale, with the DAS sensors having a respectable percentage of the main IRST's range. Resolution on both systems is likely to be rather good too. The towed system should have a noticeable improvement in jamming capacity to internal jammers found in allot of current aircraft. So it should be pretty hard to get burn-through even when you pick the plane up.
Also radar jamming, the brutal passive sensors, electro-optical system, etc.
id say two most crucial systems for F-35 that are missing are its EW capability that is supposed to be superior to the Growler and two way datalink with its weapons which all should be capable of mid course target correction through sayd datalink (IR seekers looping around after miss and radar seekers able to retarget after breaking the lock back on target by the mothership AND capability to hand over guidance to the other asset or use other asset radar for weapons guidance
Poor AWACS really getting beat up recently.
Peeling off to take out the AWACs before any engagement is a pretty big flex.
gs been blessing us with these uploads
U guys been blessing me with views, much love.
DCS doesn't know half of all the brand new little tricks the F35 has.
Nor does it have half of the ones we know of.
They also still havent fixed the Russian missile glitch.
@@michaelsmith1060 Where the aimram or the meteor hit the russian planes and they still keep flying and going lol
But he knows everything about the Russian tricks of the SU35. Overconfidence is the cause of many failures. A fool is always sure, a smart person is always doubtful.
Subsonic
Rusty
With a turning radius of B-52
What else?
This stealth thing is Old Testament Ninja. You was awaiting for the Fat Amy to come and could try to anticipate it... and couldn't succeed. Imagine in a real battlefield being caught totally by surprise
Well, even if the 35s had their radars off, the E2 on RWR with no other aircraft would clue you in that you've probably got a flight of 35Cs pushing you.
That first F35 was being a little too vulnerable
Lets see a video with the F-35A/C with the new Sidekick internal missile mount that allows them to carry six AMRAAMS internally.
I really appreciate the work you put in on the quality of your videos! 💯
love the videos can't wait for this one to you've been my favorite youtuber recently and i just wanna say thank you for the entertaining content and helping me with gaining knowledge on fighter jets
rear view mirror makes it look like you're flying a Phantom with the black plumes!
8:39 “Suka Blyat” had me LoL’ing…. Good stuff. 🤣
You should make more CAS and ground attack videos with the f16c, f15e and a10. And for those videos make them longer since they are very intriguing. Keep up the great work best dcs creator on this platform!!
if the f35s had the sidekick mod they would have 6 missiles.
Damn, that F35 wingman was like nah just Su35, you've got this
I haven't got to the fight yet in the video, but if the F35s dont force them defensive long before they can get launched on, I call "doubt". That's supposed to be the one thing the F35 has over enemy counterparts that arent even a little stealthy like the Flanker. They should be able tos ee and launch long before they get seen and launched on. I'd wager Fat Amy is stealthier than a Felon by a bit too
Before they figured out combat characteristics for the F35, it got decimated in dogfights with f16s, 15s, 18s etc
Once they got it sorted?only the F22 stood a chance BVR.
Its not just the stealth lessening the detection range. Its the 35s EW capabilities. It literally blinds its adversary
it should be like fighting a Growler ... that flies like F-16 ... and is stealth on top of that ...
The flyby audio clips are funny
I love how little opinion the f35's had of you that they just decided one could take you both on while the other did the side objective
I would like to see this fight again with the F-35's carrying the Mako missile. All in good time im sure. Great work, GS. That was an awesome video!
I believe the f-35c and a can now carry 6 AMRAAMS internally.
One is the totally glass cockpit. The F35 has numerous cameras all over the aircraft. One can actually look 360 degrees like your not even in a aircraft !
Great capture of that missile flying right thru the chaff...
Fat Amy still can dance. Nice video, I also really love the russian EDM and the "suka blyat" little touches :D
More F35 action please, its real interesting to see how they against other aircraft.
This is the kind of fight, i'd love to see a tac view of! Amazing stuff
Man, that cockpit does look sweet, and as i always say, I love the look of the SU-27 to 57 but the 35 looks awesome but the huge tail sticking out it's ass like the 57 does look a little weird.
Ashame the F-35 doesn't have a proper functioning cockpit yet with every capability the F-35 has because I seriously think it would smash a lot of things in BVR, America does need to fit a longer range missile inside it though.
Ok, you can tell I was typing as watching, and I guess it showed the capabilities of the F-35. That was such a cool video man I totally enjoyed every bit of that. Sick stuff, and again as always I love the channel dude.
Interesting that the first AMRAAM just "went away" when he had a weapons grade lock on you and the only move you made was to slowly reduce altitude.
Must have been a Friday afternoon built 120...
It was the difference between a high altitude and low altitude. Going from 30,000 feet to below 10,000 feet caused the missile to bleed all of its energy going through lowe altitude dense air.
@@angrydragon4574 except thats not what happened, he broke the lock ... of F-35 ... just by reducing altitude ...
secondly you are just parrotting what you heard without thinking - by the time GS initiated the maneuver the missile was in pitbull range while traveling in thin air at 10k+ altitude ... if he didnt break the lock there is no way he would have been able to defeat the missile at that point because while he is diving so is the missile
That techno. 😂 Just marvelous, again. GS, man I love you.
Love you too I appreciate your support more than you know. All the best.
Going against stealth fighters can make you go crazy 🤣
Awesome video GS 💯👏
3:40 had me dying as those jets blasted by
What's the name of the hardbass?
@15:26, that’s the equivalent of brake checking someone for tailgating.
I wonder what the F35 was doing after shooting a missile at you, he was looking at the contrails of an incoming missile, yet no chaff & flare.
Also I wonder how well the F35's high tech countermeasures (like the towed decoy and who knows what else it has) would work.
I was hoping you would be flying the F-35
Holy smokes, that was a fast 15 minutes!
I like seeing the other side of the F-22/F-35 fights. You have to get creative to have a fighting chance since the stealth really negates the superior ranges of the Russian missiles.
Gread video GS. Hopefully, one day (preferably soon), you can pilot the F-35
If I had a nickle for every time an A-50 made it back to base with barely any engines in these BVR videos, I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Nice touch with the hardstyle flyby lol
Very enjoyable video man i dont know why but i really likes this one. You should do more scenarios against f35's i know you dont wanna fly it yet. But until you do, can you please do more f35 bvr videos and see what it takes to beat the f35 in bvr? Maybe su57's vs f35's? Or j20's vs f35's would be a really good one because they are both stealth missile trucks
You put an F35b in the Picture, not an F35c
That’s ok lol
@@GrowlingSidewinder also as far as i know the F35c isnt the best dogfighter. The F35 A has a 9g limit meanwhile the F35 c has a 7,5g and the B has a 7g limit.
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@@redstone_orangewould make sense seeing as the C is the Navy variant and the A the Airforce variant. The B though is definitely the worst dogfighter I'd think because of the big and heavy VTOL fan
@@1n_0nly_bl4ckout you are correct, also comparing the three variants with the jets they are supposed to replace they are clearly an upgrade, F35A is supposed to replace the F16, F35b the harrier, and F35c the F18.
There are a lot of comments from F35 pilots which can give us some insight in how good of an dogfighter the F35 is, A lot of pilots call her fat amy but some call her the second most manueverable jet in the US arsinal.
A lot of test pilots also said that the aircraft doesnt maintain a lot of energy when doing these manuevers.
The F35 was desinged for Fox 2 fights, which end in seconds, so it makes sense that it is super manueverable and it doesnt need to keep a lot of energy if the fight is supposed to be over in seconds
Love to see your wallpaper on your P.C.
F14 Tomcat....GOOD choice...❤😅
I for forsure thought the other f35 was gonna stalk the su35 while one was going to be a decoy. Interesting .
If you notice on the su35 control panel under the visual armament it says GS test. Thought it was a neat detail from the mod creator
Dude, I like the Battlefield Theme remix you always play!
With the AIM 260s the F-35 is going to be so lethal.
1 F-35 for 2 russian 4th++ fighters and an AWACs is a good trade, espicially since the F-35 is in mass production and can be replaced relatively fast.
But not cheap.
@@guyray1504 It's quite cheap actually, and it's only getting cheaper as production orders increase. It has already become cheaper than Gripen, Rafale and EF, whilst being a much better aircraft in basically every regard.
@@rycotss3802 no idea about maintenance cost, but the fact that this is the most produced 5 gen aircraft of our time is insane. By the 2030 it is likely going to be a most produced aircraft of our time.
I miss the Ruski analogue RWR display in the Flanker
They still win. One damaged AWACS and 2 SU35s lost against one F35 lost.
Nobody: You never fly in the F-35
Backstreet Boys: Tell me whyyy
Not sure that I would use the term trade to describe that engagement. Two Su-35s and a written off AWACS, seems more like a kick in the nards from the F-35 duo. Like the glass half full mentality though GS!
F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New
Day 82
Poor AWACs actually survived for once.
Please make a video with the F35A. The best version out of them all. Sadly DCS just doesn’t come close to the actual capabilities of the F35.
We dont have any good flyable F-35 mods for him to fly
Can we see some F35 dogfights?
IK it was not meant for it but....😅
Wonder if the F-35 in DCS is capable of doing the 360-degree thermal targeting that the real one can do.
Some of the very early demo flight tests were absolutely spectacular, I don’t even think they were block III yet with full 9g limits. Perfect high AoA rudder kick-over into an incredible flat spin that he pulled out of almost instantly when he wanted to.
I’ve never seen that control authority out of a non-TV aircraft before.
Honestly? I think they’ve majorly dumbed-down the F-35 flight demos, in spite of being deployed with higher G ratings. Almost like a higher-up saw the demo and said “NOPE! Don’t show them that. Dazzle spectators with loud full AB passes and pull-ups, etc… but that’s it.”
Idk what day it is, but yet another day of asking for a-10 with all gunpod loadout
lol I don’t know of any gun pods that go on an a10
@@GrowlingSidewinder it could carry 2 20mm vulcan gunpods from what i know
Perfect hard bass edit at the beginning, I laughed out loud.
A very decent video too.
GS, you are a great pilot in the SIM one of the best!
Great vid as always, GS ! Also, these Russian AWACS are way too survivable flying home with one or two engines left. It is still a mission kill though I doubt they'll be repairing that radar anytime soon, with all the shrapnel from the AMRAAM.
I see he’s still avoiding the F-35
I’ve never seen you fly the F-35. Are we going to watch you fly it? Big fan by the way.
I like these videos, like in actual warfare for each of the planes actual strengths and features.
When will the F-35 cockpit be available?
When someone makes it (nobody started to do it yet)
That SU-35 sure does have a beautiful glass cockpit.
I was asking for this fight for awhile a few months ago, I ended up giving up asking but we are here!
Dude has no idea that his wingman was like 3 feet away from him and just turns full to the left 😂😂😂😂
and here i thought GS would be flying the F35
Pete Mitchell says don't leave your wingman.
I loved the Russian hard base with the SU-35 flyby! Glad you brought that back, I forgot you did that a long time ago and it caught me off guard! Nice work GS
08:37 it is definitely "Cyka Blyat!!11"
I will probably buy this game
For the Canadians out there, a “butt load of missiles” is roughly three kilograms per hour of missiles. You’re welcome. 👍
always love the battlefield theme at the end🖤
FINALLY BVR with F35
I had a feeling your boss was going to explode when opted to stay high.
Gotta admit, both of those birds look sick
I bet gs was scared that the f35 would creep up on him like that f22 did to the su27
I wonder if it would have made more sense for both F-35s to have stuck together to kill the AWACS first and then go after you guys.
He doesn't like the f35.
I have a model of one in my room lol I have no issue with the f35 loool
@@GrowlingSidewinderand there is no model with a cockpit for you to fly in the channel and yada yada. Man, it's not personal. At this point, the fact that you don't like the F-35 is just the *lore* of the channel! It has nothing to do with your actual personal tastes. It's something bigger!
@GrowlingSidewinder the majority of us thought you didn't like it since you never flew it. And I know a lot of people have requested seeing you fly it. Myself included. But I'm sure a lot of us viewers never knew the cockpit was incomplete. But when it is, we look forward to seeing you in it. Didn't mean any disrespect. 👍
@@GrowlingSidewinder you love her but you do call her fat... 😂
@@cliffordclaussen2321 no disrespect taken, I've written it other comments but obvs I don't expect everyone to see every single comment.
all eyes on AWACS.
such an expensive target.
No real reason for an F-35 to get that close.
Yeah, I was wondering about that, too.