F 22 Raptor VS F 35 Lightning II - 5th Generation Fighter Jet Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2022
- F-22 and F-35 are the most ambitious fighter programs in the Western world to have produced aircraft ready for combat, although the F-35 is currently restricted to a limited initial operating capability and is not yet ready for medium or high intensity engagements.
The F-22 uses a much higher end more costly airframe, but has suffered from a difficulty incorporating upgrades and very high maintenance issues which along with its low production run mean it is likely to be retired from service decades ahead of the lower maintenance but more modern F-35 or even the old F-15. The F-22 and F-35 are set to continue to define the fifth generation for many years to come.
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The way this bot said 35 was so annoying.
Thurtuh fahve
And nineteen hundred and eighty… 🤖
F Thirta fov
Lol thanks for this lmbo
@@andrewbroadfoot6195 I was born in the 1900s... -_-
Yep. Gotta love the F-third-of-five.
Best 3 out of 5, right?
LOL
AI will ruin everything
F-third-of-five! Love this video for all the facts but this is hilarious!!
I prefer “Eff Seven of Nine.”
Ohhh.. so, not F Certify
What is crazy to realize is that the F-22 was built and designed in the 1970s and 1980s.. back when almost everything publicly speaking, was analog and in kbits... yet the F-22 has technology integrated into it that far exceeds anything on the public market today and can still out-perform any other bird in the air.. keeping in mind the exponential technology curve.. what has the US Government designed and developed in the last 30-40 years? The F-22 is a 5-gen fighter from almost 40 years ago.. I imagine the US Government has generations and generations of designs and aircraft that have yet to be declassified that will 'roll out' down the line, as out adversaries 'catch up' (LOL). . . My hot take is that 'UFOs' that seemingly break the laws of physics (from an observers standpoint) are simply glimpses of what the US Government has.
the F-15A/B was designed and built in the 70s. First delivered in 1976 with the C/D models arriving in '79. F-22 was still a ways off yet. First "Stealth" attempt, code named "Have Blue" was the F-117. Not actually an "F" fighter but an "A" attack aircraft. Soft landings
I am with you. No telling what we have today.
The design criteria wasn't even released until 1985.
Zero design work on smooth stealth aircraft was done on the 70's. In the 70's we were still struggling to create the have blue/hopeless diamond (f-117).
It was secret for about half a decade so the whole "they have operational aircraft decades ahead of anything we know" is just BS.
They can't expect the companies that designed and manufacture the plane to make a great plane and then tell them yes we want 50 of them but hold that thought for a decade or two. Don't throw away the molds or fire any of the people, just tread water for a few years.
The problem with super secret airplanes is using them kills the whole secret part.
Most military hardware and especially planes are built these days using a modular design. This means systems can be easily upgraded as improvements come along, similar to upgrading the RAM or GPU on your PC. The plane itself my be decades old since conception but I very much doubt the systems are more than a few years old if that.
There's a reason why the US prohibits the sale of F-22 up to this date but on the other hand they made F-35 available for the allies. 😎 A 40 year old 5th gen fighter still way much superior to the F-35 which is a crazy fact.
F-thurtafaiv
Beautiful. I’m totally calling it that from now on.
I scrolled down to say the same thing.
Lmfaoooooo I was like what did I just hear that correctly
Hate these computer voices
@@stanleymasterson1135 I wondered if it was a computer when I heard the voice. Thx for confirming.
God damnit, I couldn't even watch the whole thing because of this comment 🤣
Along with the F-80, F-104, F-4, F-14, and F-15 before it, I believe the F-22 will go down as one of the most beautiful iconic fighter jets America ever built.
The F-16 is more iconic than the F-15 imo
Beautiful? Nah. Deadly? Yes.
F22 is king
The f-104? Really? Am I missing something, or was the Starfighter a death trap?
absolutely possible that it will go down in history as THE most iconic fighter jet EVER...
F35 has come into its own after years and years of WTF from the Pentagon, but I still think the F22 is the absolute pinnacle of aeronautics. It just doesn't get much better.
Oh it will become much better. Now we will apply AI and get even crazier results. We are far from the plateau :P
Wait till you hear about the yf-23, pretty much only lost to the f-22 because of cost
@@DerJuvensMy man, we have been using AI and scripted programs for everything for ages. It's nothing new.
Ngad:
* the f22 raptor gets the job done. I have yet to hear a persuading argument otherwise * 🐶
Hearing the F-35 described as “low cost” caused me to shoot soda from my nose. 🤯
Lol
It's cost per unit has actually gone down quite a bit since it's inception.
😂 Its low cost cuz it be the tax dollars 🥴
The F-22 is so beautiful!
I love the look of the f35!
@@semmetje Me too. It's the aircraft I would want to fly if I join the Air Force.
I flew the F-35 simulator ( with assist by a Navy Lieutenant) when the F-35 was still in development. It was absolutely amazing. I even was able to land on a carrier.
how he says "thirtuhfive" is like nails on a chalkboard
ITS SORRY
It’s AI content dude. Lame af
I recently listened to interview with an active F-22 pilot, who also has some experience with the F-35. To the question, which jet he would choose in any A2A situation, he said clearly the F-22....
I think this guy with real life experience has good reasons to choose the F-22 over the F-35 in any A2A engagements..
Now ask him what he'd prefer in any non-A2A roles. The F-22 is great, but only at one role.
Best of both worlds. One is a tactical air to air combat masterpiece with superior manoeuvrability and speed, and the other is a long range VTOL tactical stealth bomber with state of the art technology. One will chase you down and shoot you out of the sky with pinpoint precision, and the other will have already fired the missile that blew you out of the sky before you even knew it was there. You don't have to be fast or have superior range when your wearing an invisibility cloak...
the f22 is even more stealthy though and even holds more missiles internally , the f35 does almost nothing better except ground strike and data links . the vtol thing destroyed the design and should have been done in a different model
that has to be the best feeling, flying either of those amazing beasts. Love em both.
there is a reason we use the f22 as homeland defense and as a show of force to North Korea and Russia . the f22 is the beast , the f35 has a purpose, kind of but the f22 rules air to air combat
Концепция F-22 была удачнее как минимум потому, что все противники США делают аналоги не F-35, а Раптора. Su-57, J-20.
F-22 is a queen of the fighting skies.
@@craig4867 Much depends on what adversaries are available. Which of the two would win in a one-on-one fight against each other, starting 200 miles apart?
F22 hands down .
You simply cannot beat the F22A Raptor.
I see them quite a bit. I also see the same snow covered mountains when they showed the F-22s at JBER. We live about 20 miles off their N-S runway. Many times they launch in groups of 2-3 at a time. There are over 30 of them stationed there.
the f22 is way better than the fthurtufive
The only fighter that can go head to head with an F22 is an F22.
You do realise the Typhoon has an impressive kill rate against the F22 in training? Its known outside of youtube and fanboys as the only fighter that can realistically take on F22 if it all kicks off.
@@TheCloneX2 Keep going.............you are only telling part of the story. There were some "Specific" things that the F-22 wasn't allowed to do in these "Training Engagements"
I think it’s unfair to compare them. F-35 is all-round aircraft that is cheaper to fly, and can be used in multiple roles. The F-22 is the aircraft you don’t want to come across in aerial battle. Regardless, the fact is, the US has these incredible aircraft, which is a testament to their incredible designers.
You'll eat a missile before you even pick it up on radar lol...
You've just compared them.
Russia's SAM it's only weakness
I would say there is no real versus, since they don't compete but assist each other. F22/F35 relationship is kinda F15/F16 relationship, the former is air superior strategic fighter while the latter is multirole tactical fighter.
Yes. We are OK with that. It really complements each other
Just ordered a couple F 35s.
😂😂
I want 2 engines! Redundancy is a beautiful thing! Especially when 1 engine goes out!
The F-thurdafive must be a secret aircraft that I am unaware of.
F-22 Raptor has always been my favorite. ❤️❤️❤️🤘👏❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
🌸 thank you. it has stood the test of time, my humble opinion 🌸
just watching an F22 fly here in the states is thrilling. Such as amazing aircraft!
F35 is more suited for Navy and Marine missions. F22 is more for air superiority which the AF as the primary DOD air element is charged to do. Both are great airframes!
F22 is designed to protect airspace by enforcing air superiority. F35 is designed to be a bench player that uses floor time to occupy the enemy when the home team has an advantage.
When the allies can protect themselves, you can spend more money on developing new weapon systems.
Update: There are so many updates to the F-35 that the new weapons make it decent against anything else. Even though it's slower than almost every other fighter, the mesh-network alongside stealth that there is almost no nation that can compete beyond visual range (assuming there are no advanced dection systems nearby. China made a new sensor that can detect the heat trail of a jet at almost any altitude so that's scary.
the f16 outfights the f35, and still does the SEAD mission better than any aircraft in the US arsenal. f35 is good but not when you take in the f15 ex, and f16 viper.
f22 program makes sense though
@@nathanc30 Depends how you define 'ourfights'. The F35 would take out the f16 before the f16 sees it.
@@nathanc30 The F-35 is a VLO stealth fighter with advanced sensors and sensor fusion, so I don't see why it couldn't perform the SEAD/DEAD role at least as well as the F-16. Why is the F-16 so good at it? Probably in part because of its relatively small frontal RCS, but the F-35 beats it easily in this respect.
As for air-to-air combat, the F-35 wasn't really designed for that, but except for its limited internal capacity for air-to-air missiles (4xAIM-120D), it is capable of dominating in the air superiority role because it possesses the most critical capabilities that the F-22 uses to dominate. The F-22 is the more complete air superiority/dominance/supremacy fighter, no question, but the F-35 can also dominate over everything else.
In a close-in dogfight, the F-16 has some advantages over the F-35 in terms of power and agility, and mainly the fact that it carries 2xAIM-9X HOBS missiles. The F-35 has two rails for this missile, but they are external, and therefore can't be used while in stealth mode. However, the F-35 still gets first look, first shot, and probably first kill. Its pilot can set up for the advantage even if it comes down to a WVR fight, and that will most likely get him the win.
@@braticuss Or the F-15EX, for that matter. However, much depends on the rules of engagement. The F-35's advantage in situational awareness still makes it more than a match for any 4th-generation fighter overall, although it loses much (not all) of its advantage if BVR shots are not allowed.
I was so impressed with the F-35, I bought one for each one of my kids for Christmas.
Both of them built for diffrent pupose, f22 for full air combat control, f35 for air and land, supporting for ground battle too
Very professional! Well done. Amazing channel -- just sub'd!
Thanks for sharing this video. :)
F35 has come into its own after years and years of WTF from the Pentagon, but I still think the F22 is the absolute pinnacle of aeronautics.
Both are gorgeous
I won't be surprised if those fighter jets will phase out soon. Drones and missiles will take over those next-generation programs because of better maneuverability and speed.
Yes. It could be. But not as simple as that. Many technologies was developed so long years ago
It's possible, but unlikely. A lot of missiles need an airframe to launch from or it loses range from having to burn so much fuel to get aloft. The electronics packages on the F35 are invaluable now as well. We see what has happened with Russia not being able to secure the skies over the battle space and they're getting bloodied pretty good by a much smaller force. Air defense from both sides has made it nearly impossible to do anything other than launch a few rockets or cruise missiles from way behind the front and hope they get through the missile defenses of the opponent. EW and stealth tech possessed by the US would have a better go of it, but there would undoubtedly still be losses. That's the biggest downside from a western POV. These aircraft are just so expensive that it would take some serious calculations to decide to put them at serious risk to fly missions over the battle space.
true, the cost of selecting, training a pilot and keeping him up to the requiered level is insane. (extra cost 1) + even when he succeeds as a pilot, he is still a human being : needing food, water, rest and accomodation. You have to design the jet to fit him ( extra cost2 ) and his biological needs + you need a base to house this pilot. (extra cost 3) If you can eliminate these three extra costs, any organisation WILL do that, multiplying their fighter jet capabilty times (three, five, ten or even more ?) The huzaars were a dominant factor once, now hardly anyone still knows about them...obsolete. innovation. It happens.
I somehow ended up in a circle of friends with several individuals that work on the 35’s here in Fort Worth, TX. All of them are so proud of their “baby”, the F-35 and say it’s unstoppable…
Unless there’s an F-22 on the field. Then they’re essentially badass betas waiting for direction from their alpha.
The f35 would absolutely spank the shet out of the great f22. None of these red flag wvr dogfights mean a thing in 5th gen combat. The f35 will detect and have 2 amraam’s on the way to the f22 before it realized wtf was happening.
@@AK-ky3ou I highly doubt that. It’s upgradability, much lower service cost and overall price is it’s drawcard that will see much higher numbers of it, more airtime and longer service life tho - so a more useful aircraft in the real world
The cost of selecting, training a pilot and keeping him up to the requiered level is insane!! (extra HUGE cost 1) + even when he succeeds as a pilot, he is still a human being : needing food, water, rest and accomodation. Not even mentioning salary, pension or other benefits...+ You have to design the jet to fit him, keep his body alive , so as he can survive it as best as possible even with ejection capability when all goes wrong( extra HUGE cost2 ) + you need a base to house this pilot +possible family (extra HUGE cost 3). If you can eliminate these three HUGE costs, any organisation WILL do that !!!!! Multiplying their fighter jet capabilty times (three, five, ten or even more ?) obsolete. innovation. It happens.
I know the f-35 is the future but I absolutely love for the F-22. Such a beautiful aircraft
Everyone always says how much better the f22s is. For starters the f22s was developed a long time ago which in itself is amazing but makes its tech more known and its an air to air superiority fighter, with the f35 new and still being modified and tested even though some are being tested its far from being done development. And the f35 is a multi role stealth bomber, interceptor, fighter, missile defense, air to ground, electronic warfare, tactical nuclear weapons, short take off and landing, or vtol or conventional take off and landing, also it can be modifed from a 5th gen stealth strike aircraft and used in the begging of a war and once air superiority is won then it can be turned in to a 4th gen style aircraft using its hardpoints increasing its weapon load a hell of alot. Let alone the f35 was specifically built to fit all roles and to be operated and be easy to share real time tactical information to each f35 operated by different allies including updates problems so on. And last the f35 is highly classified where the f22 still is but has been used so much theres alot of information about it. But due to any multi role aircraft its not gonna be the beat the best of best in the best of the bests specific type of fighting. But it being a 5th gen multi role stealth bomber fighter its on par with most 4th gen aircrafts weather fighters strategic bombers interceptors electronic warfare missile defense so on. Its the master aircraft but master of none.
It probably is the master of something, if not certainly the master of multi-role aircraft.
Also the f-22 is a lot better in terms of air superiority, that's probably what most people mean when they say it's better. What I don't get is this guy said it has 4th gen stealth 🤦♂️ it's literally one of the most stealthy/is the most stealthy fighter in the world. It literally has an RCS of about the size of a bee...
You’re actually uninformed the f-22 is a 5th gen fighter and it has more capabilities than the f-35. You can google this the US has never given any Allie’s of ours the f-22 blueprint and nobody but us has flown it but we have given our Allie’a the f-35 to fly so that speaks volumes nobody but the US actually knows the f-22 real power
Always love listening to someone who knows nothing on a subject try to sound authoritative
Yes, you are right, me too
So the F22 is to be designed to be the superior combat plane vs anything in the sky, take down anything that it sees, and the 35 is to be designed to be good at everything but be amazing at nothing, more cost effective and versatile. Got it thanks. 👍
The F-35 is designed to excel at air to ground roles such as Strike or Interdiction.
Great video. I could watch it "thurdafive" times 😂
This is like comparing apple and oranges, they are built for different things, the F-22 is an Air Superiority fighter while the F-35 is a Strike Fighter.
Does the F-Third of Five have the same tech as Seven of Nine
Well logic tells me there’s a reason the U.S hasn’t made the F-22 available for export. Some things are best kept a secret.
F22 by a mile. It's the pinnacle of badassery
man this computer generated voice made this video hard to watch... emphasizing incorrect parts of sentences, mispronouncing, and the flow was just way off... blah
What is cumbat?
They are all incredible. However, I will always favour the F-22 she is a stunning beast.
Can’t stand listening to the synthesized voice. The cadence is so messed up its distracting.
What’s a f third a fi?
I still believe the YF-23 was better!
The F22 was designed in the 19 hundred eighties
You hold on there quick, Remember the A-10 Wart Hog...
Who heard "eff therta fide" more than you ever did before in your life, not to mention nineteen hundred eighties. LOL
F 22 is great better stealth and maneuverability, but the F 35 is much more technologically advanced
BOTH Fighters Aircraft Was a great Failures 😮😮
The Best one FIGHTER AIRCRAFT until now 💪 it's the F-15 Eagle 🦅 following the F-18 Super Hornet and the last one and the legendary F-16 Falcon Demo until now 💪🪽🪽🪽🪽 still 's the One Best Fighters Aircraft 😊😊😊😊
lol F thurda 5.
Take it from me who is lucky to own both, i much prefer my f22 to go cruise with. My f35 just isn't the same. Both great in their own ways but my raptor just has a special place in my heart! I thought when i sold my f15 to upgrade to the 35 id regret it but nope its definitely more fun to fly than the f15
what is an F-thirdafied?
Also check out F-150 Lightning, capable to operate at ground level without any wings and tow stuff
nice 👍
F-22 & f-35 are the best now
What is a "thirtifie"?
The F-35 has a flaw in its tail design meaning it can only be supersonic for 2 minutes and 30 seconds per sortie. Otherwise the tail literally gets ripped off by the stress. The flaw is considered too expensive to fix, and the F-35s role has been redesigned to be sub-sonic. Most expensive weapons system in world history.
2 F22s for the first time fired in anger, using 2 missiles to destroy Chinese weather baloon ,over Atlantic Ocean! That's what I call Bang for a Buck!
cant hold that against the F22... all other countries are still afraid to send a jet up against them because they know they will be toast. Yes, the F22 is an air superiority fighter. Now our government wasting the money to use expensive missiles on a balloon... that is another story but not the fault of the F22. Great jet!
When can we see the 4th of 5?
😅😅😅
LOL
How can a jet with vertical take off capability have a thrust to weight ratio of less than 1?
you can have vertical takeoff, you can have full fuel and you can have full weapons loadout... just not at the same time. It is all from that terrible engine that never has met specs promised and is full of problems.
Everyone here thinking the f22 is king of the skies doesn’t understand how air superiority works. The f22 is an incredible fighter and was king of the skies before the f35. The f22 would surely beat an f35 in a wvr dogfight. Thing is, the f35 will detect the f22 and kill it before the f22 has a chance to get wvr. Anyone thinking otherwise must think the p51 mustang is still the most capable fighter.
You get what you pay for > He has already told you all you need to know> F-35 is cheaper
Spec's terminology! F-35 stealth, Minnie gun / f-22 evade!!! ( Comparison )
Just 🤔 about it... .. . An actual Lightning ⚡ vs. A prehistoric Raptor dinosaur,,, I'm choosing the F-35 because it's capable of combat anywhere!!!😅
F35's belly's surface looks so alien... I like it better than F22's
F22 is more powerful than F35.
I really like both of them for different reasons. Still, the f-22 is better looking imo
B 117, B 2, f 22, f 35 and the Warthog let me sleep soundly at night. That is the blank slate package. Think of the f 35 more like a manned satellite with weapons. All sensors connected like internet hubs. A flying, thinking constellation of stealth aircraft collectively linked like Borg.
The 🇺🇸 is STILL the only country with TRUE 5th gen fighter planes.
Basic answer is F-35. Just because it's more stealth and have more sophisticated radar system generally
I agree
Just base on solely on name the Raptor sounds way better 😅
Can we breed these two? Ill buy one if its in my range!
This one pulls @ my heart strings. I will never not be in love with thrust vectoring! But i respect stealth enough to realize internal armaments are a must.
I was an F-35 pilot for 10 years and an F-22 pilot for 8. They’re both the best at what they were designed to do. Russia and China have nothing that can touch the F-22. i will say wait until you see what America has in the pipeline though…
The F-35 C is not the first VTOL... The Marines have the "worst" of this platform now, and had the limited but versatile "Harrier" b4 this platform was introduced, w/ the Air Force, & Navy having F-35 B and F-35 A respectively I think...
The ol Thurda 5
Realy I like this powerful fighters jets
Good
Like comparing a F16 to a F15.
Ok. The video on progress. Will be released early March
Leon we need to make first contactAmberly seems to be perfect need radio signals to attract and unarmed planes to contact. Need approvals ASAP
Wait, so is the F-22 4th or 5th generation? I believe i heard him say it's 4th gen?
It's gen 5
I question the validity of replacing the F-35 with conventional fighter aircraft.
The F-35 is replacing the aging but by no means, obsolete Harrier Jump Jet.
I haven't seen a F-35 up close but if I did, I suspect that there's no flaps on it. Just vector nozzles.
Just like the Harrier.
What's, " Thirta five"?
The F-22 would destroy you in a dogfight
The F-35 would destroy you before you can even say dogfight
they were built to complement each other it was very stupid to cancel the f22. this was a good video . most like it are just f35 fan vids that lie and say the f35 is better at both roles because they buy the stupidity that the dogfight is dead. And he even mentioned that even today almost 15 years later the f35 still isn't even full combat ready yet
Dogfighting is EXTREMELY rare nowadays. Even former fighter pilots say that dogfighting is a rare event, so why heavily focus on something that only has a small chance of happening? The F-35 is a phenomenal aircraft.
@@justalpha9138 because that’s what a fighter is for , shooting down enemy planes . You can have a fighter that is good bvr and dogfighting like the f22 and newer f16s but it’s not going to be a bomber and work for every branch. Having complementary heavy fighters to go with the light fighters makes more sense than one that does nothing well the f22 was supposed to complement the f35
@@mikesmith-wk7vy Which it does. The F-35 is an absolute beast of an aircraft with incredible versatility and capability depending on what sort of mission you're going for.
@@mikesmith-wk7vy Fighters aren't just limited to CAP, certain airframes are capable of great air to ground support. The Desert Storm campaign was an example of fighters doing a mix of both.
All I can hear is this guy saying "F Thirtuh Five." Is he incapable of pronouncing "Thirty" properly, or is that a choice? Great video, thanks for your work.
I feel like it’s just a really good AI voice. I have no idea though, such a weird way to say that and every single time.
If the US were to go to war tomorrow are there any fighters (eg. F14 , F15 16 f4's even) that could not be used in combat?
The thirty five is a multi roll.
Scrap, that's why they are no longer produced...
Very guut
Как человек из России спрошу у автора, а смысл сравнивать 2 истребителя которые предназначаются для разных целей. F-35 - Истребитель-бомбардировщик то есть его основная работа направлена на поддержку сухопутных войск, F-22 - Многоцелевой, но он скорее предназначен для господства в воздухе
F-22 создавался, как самолет для прорыва ПВО, ПРО РФ и Стран ВД. Так-же на нем обкатали передовые технологии, большинство из которых удешевлялось, улучшалось и перекочевало на F-35. Скорость таки играет роль, а вот двигатели c ОВТ не дают преимущества перед AIM-9X. Плюс интеграция в авионику целеуказания из различных источников т.н. АСБУ. Кобры, чакры, петли, бочки пусть русские пилоты оставят для авиашоу. Над территорией РФ его предупредят по радиостанции с земли. И то в случае работы А-50. На удалении 300 км от границы РФ и самолета ДРЛО шансов у ФАК-ПА нет...... Встречную ракету засечь сможет он поздно, с любого, другого курса он ее вообще не обнаружит.
Не туда развивались в РФ. Большее количество союзников, унификация вооружения и интеграция в АСУВ сейчас рулят + технологии. Россия пошла диаметрально противоположным путем. Вслед за Северной Кореей.
Personally still love the F-22 the F-35 looks cool but its only comparable to a f/a18 because of its single engine cool looking jet but not top tier
f18 is okay. f16 does what it does for cheaper
F thirta-five?
think it might be bot voice i really cant cant tell anymore tho they are becoming too good
F15s and F16s are the new B52s
I always said F22. Is the American armor Legacy
Great video with lots of information but for me just couldn't get past the continuous mispronunciation of the word "thirda five"
I see F-35’s in the video but not one 3rd of five aircraft was shown even though the bot kept mentioning it. 🤔