The Closest We Have to a Realistic F22 Simulator... (DCS F-22 Mod)
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0:00 Intro + History of the F22
4:00 Stealth Intercept F22A vs 3x Su27 & Bombers
11:48 F/A-18C VS F-22A
15:30 Mig21bis (lol) VS F-22A - เกม
Minor technicality mistake: the F22A mod is free but requires the F15C module to play. You can grab the F15C for
You need the whole FC3 pack, only having the F15C won't work
@@SantaGamerTH-cam on the mod’s page it says FC3 *or* F15C. Is the modpage incorrect?
No for me just the f-15c works
@@OperatorDrewski It has changed since, yea
@@OperatorDrewski Yeah FC3 OR F-15C is right
He has entered the world of DCS mods. There is no end to his content!
Prepare thyselves for the hardest landings you’ll ever see heheheheh
Yesssss!
@@OperatorDrewski I am expecting you to land a Gripen on an aircraft carrier in the next video
@@OperatorDrewski if you crash I expect to hear "another happy landing"
Dude he’s been flying dcs you just haven’t been here
Don't forget when dogfighting in the f22 to change your fcs mode to override, let's you pull max Gs, unlike the fcs normal mode that drew was in which made his dogfight very difficult. Also for that ai fight the ai is defaulted to react to being attacked, so they shoot when you shoot.
Almost unlimited nose authority until your belly smacks the ground that is 🤣. Love this mod
Came here to say this
@@thedoncastellani the f22s outstanding thrust to weight ratio might help.
I watched this after some of Growling's vids and was confused. Never played myself
7:21 the f22 does have thrust vectoring, you have to go to fcs and press overide to enable it
Yeah I was wondering why he was struggling in a rate fight lol. Thought I remembered something about the FCS override from this mod.
Ahhh thank you! I’m gonna have to get my buddy viper to get on to do some dogfights and hit the fun switch on em :)
@@OperatorDrewski It really isnt thrust vectoring tho, its like deactivating the SAS on the j11/su27/33, although not at that extent to lose control easily, the thrust vectoring version exists, but grinelly himself has to give it to you
@@fenix2-222 I was gunna say to, their is a thrust vectoring version it’s just not ready for release to the public
@@fenix2-222 Ahhh darn, I'll try it out though for sure.
Worked with the F-22 for the past 3 years up in Alaska. It is such a supremely awesome jet. Fun fact: the one used to play Starscream in the Transformers movie has a Deception logo inside the nose landing gear.
Cool!
Good ol' 106
No wayyy awesome
I was stationed at Langley AFB for 6 years as a crew chief on the F-22. Watching it practice for Airshows was amazing.
tell us the classified info please
0:15 "Cause the thing is classified and all that"
War Thunder Players: "Is that a challenge?"
The fact people do that makes me vary sad
@@william_brobrine8975.....why would that make you sad lol
Yeah, regarding the balloon, F-22 along with F-15 are the only current US fighters that can reach 60,000 feet. Also I imagine with it's thrust vectoring the Raptor especially comes in handy given how wide the turning radius would be at that altitude, due to the air being so thin at 60k feet, I imagine even normally quite maneuverable aircraft would start to feel like bricks
also, they didn't know the real purpose of the balloon, it could be a harmless loose meteorology balloon or a tricky attack with unknown devices onboard and stealth became handy against it
The F-35 and F-22 were designed for different mission sets. The 35 has less internal stores, built in TGP, and it’s very good at CCC. But it’s designed to take out enemy air defenses in stealth and then place external pylons with A2G stores and take out other ground targets. Because of its integrated sensors it’ll make any friendly forces far more lethal so it’ll linger in the air space and start CCC for the area.
What is CCC?
@@quinnmarchionini7997 Combat Control Center. Basically it’ll feed and get info from other jets. Then it’ll direct them what to do.
Immediate thoughts at 12:05 "But Maverick, you CAN'T go against a 5th Gen Fighter!"
Worked on the F-22 for 7 years. This was the Second balloon kill, First A/A Kill, and i was sitting under the wing for the first one.
I was working at Hot Pits (refueling on the ground while the aircraft is running) at Langley AFB in 2009, and a Mylar balloon from the BX, started to float over the west ramp. I was under the left wing when I heard my A man call out “uhhh.. we have a balloon coming.” I peeked under the flaps, and sure enough it was about 20-30 feet in the air, floating toward one of the other jets.
Pilot calls “surfaces clear” and I tucked in deep under the wing, you didn’t want your head anywhere near a moving flap and/or horizontal stab.
“Clear.” I called while I’m kneeling and keeping myself grounded on refueling attachment. He tilted the stick back and pointed the thrust up at the balloon, which went immediately from a limp, crumply thing to a taut ball, apparently the jet exhaust made it expand fully and leak more air, because this time it floated a good 150 feet into the air, and landed in the grass next to the runway, where our Hot Pit Super picked it up.
We all joked and called it a ground to air kill on a balloon, but when it comes down to it, we saved aircraft from a lot of time consuming and expensive maintenance.
Hahaaa what a comment, you guys were the TRUE first kill! hehe
Dod would like to know your location
@@OperatorDrewski It was definitely one of those antics we didn't really want the papers to know about... you know "first kill of a multimillion dollar stealth fighter was a Mylar Birthday balloon" just kinda... doesn't shine a good light.
@@Pythos_Sapunov What would happen to the plane if the baloon was eaten by one of the intakes? I'm sure it would survive, but would the entire insides have to be dismantled and thoroughly cleaned?
@@flare242 the engines would have to be removed and subjected to an inspection after any object of significance is injested on the ramp. . While balloons, and other small objects like string might seem like it would be harmless for a jet engine to intake, damaging the compressor blades can cause major damage that can manifest itself during flight.
Another little story, Back in the early EARLY days of youtube, in 2006, I was out in Korea and two... enterprising crew chiefs... thought it would be funny to make a video for youtube of them trying to throw a frog into the intake of an F-16.
The video was quickly removed, and the entire Wolf Pack was on a War day the next morning. As for what happened to the crew chiefs, more than likely they were courts marshalled
Stealth so good that you are better off looking out the window. I think the f22 has a cross section at the theoretical specification of 0.0001 and the mod has it set as close the that as DCS can get which I think is actually 0.002
Actually the mod's RCS value was made higher than IRL in order to not make the F-22 overly OP in a multiplayer situation.
RCS 0.00001м2 не существует ни у одного самолета хватит писать этот бред
@@BBCRFSomeone is salty that they don't have any 5th gen fighters at all. Hundreds of f22 and f 35 and you can't get an SU 57 which has a cross section similar to a hornet. Source? The manufacturer itself. Look up your 5th gen cross section. Still a lot worse than your statement here
@@giovannyc.1724 🤣🤣🤣 только могу поржать над твоим бредом.RCS шерня значительно больше чем у Су-57.Источник сам производитель указывал патент на истребитель.А не сам самолет хватит нести тупой бред
There's another DCS youtuber I watch from time to time called GrowlingSidewinder (sorry Drewski), and he would turn off the radar in the F-22 and would sneak up on people. They never saw him coming until he was in formation with them.
There was one kill he got from sheer panic. The player was so terrified when he finally saw him, that he went into aerobatics and smashed into the ground. It was hilarious. 😂
I've always loved the F-22, I've gotten to see them flying in real life a few times at airshows and it's amazing how loud and fast they are. I even knew a guy who's twin was a pilot in the Air Force and flew them and he said it was the best experience of his life. He said it literally makes you feel like a super hero how easy they are to maneuver and how fast they are. I always wanted to be a fighter pilot when I was a kid, but I had crappy eyesight and a fear of heights.
For reference, the Su-57 has an RCS of 1m². The J-20 is 0.1m². The F-117 is 0.001m². The F-22 has a smaller RCS than the F-117, reported by LockMart as being 0.0001m² from certain angles.
Likely the reason you were able to see the F-22 for a little bit with the MiG-21's radar is low frequency radars are able to see stealth aircraft still, but they're susceptible to clutter and aren't very precise.
OperatorDrewski is the only channel I know of that teaches me tons about not only history but the nice little insights on his past while providing amazing entertainment thanks for the videos over the years brother can't wait for the next one already.
2 coolest looking fighters ever imo are F-15 and F-22
More of this please, it was awesome!!
(And it looks like some people have already mentioned to turn off the fcs/turn on combat fcs for better maneuver characteristics… can’t wait for more!)
Every time I watch an aviation video with drewski it puts a huge smile on my face.
There is a DOGFIGHT OVERRIDE switch in the FCS page it allows you to get more AoA
So the F-22 has the RCS of a bumblebee and the F-22 was sent to shoot down the balloon for a multitude of reasons that include the mentioned high altitude celling, advanced sensors to detect the balloon and the ability to quickly dispatch of it without much problem.
Nice move on the Flanker. You make really great content Drewski
I love the DCS videos so much, please never stop them!
My boss is a former air force pilot, he confirmed the reason they used the F-22 is because it is the only fighter in the US inventory capable of flying combat maneuvers at the altitude that balloon was at. Cool fact, they couldn't use radar or infrared seekers to track the balloon since it gave off no heat and was invisible to radar, so the pilot had to manually aim his sidewinder via the bore sight with the seeker head turned off to hit the balloon, basically like an unguided rocket. That fighter squadron already has patches made up with a popped balloon and Winnie the Pooh on it with the words Float Around and Find Out around the perimeter.
That's a terrifying sight. A head on visual before you get a radar ping at all. F-22's are terrifying
The F-22 had its first flight the year Drew was born and entered service the year I was born.
I’m almost 10 years older than you and I remember drawing pictures of the F14 Tomcat when I was a kid… probably about the year u were born. Such an iconic plane!
I remember at an air show you could go in any plane on the ramp except the F-22 was locked up with someone standing outside it. Must be absolute insane technology on board.
I lived in that 4 apartment tower when i was stationed in Guam 🇬🇺…. Map is very detailed…I would get a great view of the Aircraft making there approach to Andersen AFB.
The F-14 was my favorite too. I had a die-cast toy one with the fold back wings. Also had a set of those old themed educational card sets for military aircraft and that data card was read over many a time. Good memories.
Were the cards the small three ringed ones? 14 was my favorite bird as a kid too and I had those little three ring cards with one flap that folded out. Good times! Ended up working 15s in the USAF lol
4:10 Yeah its pretty much as you said, its near invisible on radar. In fact its radar cross section is so small its about the size of a bumblebee, which is just insane for something of its size
The cinematography on these DCS vids is stellar! 👌
I’m from Guam and just to see a model of the island in a sim/ game is absolutely amazing❤
Oh and here in Panama City Beach Florida, the f-22 buzzes the beach allot from Eglin aireforce base, f-35 is multi rule with vertical flight variants, and have carrier ability
i know this is 3 weeks old but just went to the australian international airshow on the weekend and got to see the F-22 display and man, it is such an incredible machine
The raptor has already been simulated; its in a game from the 90s called F-22 Total air War; u should check it out. Has a dynamic campaign and the ability to play as the AWACS too. Even has pretty accurate stealth and supercruise modelling
You should fight growling sidewinder one day. That would be so cool
I have - he destroyed me like 15 times in a row LOL
@@OperatorDrewski that man is too good. He could probably shoot down an f-22 with a Huey
@@Gambler1-1 I imagine he eventually will
@@OperatorDrewski You should also try longshot as well. He is marginally better than GS in some ways.
@@NationChosenByGodis he? I've seen them flying together on the same side(against advanced enemy) and if I remember correctly Longshot got shot down more times than GS.
Damn that plane feels fast. The ground zooming past below you, even at 10k.
It's quite funny now that I think about it. People complain about how we use a platform as dated as the A-10 Thunderbolt II to do ground attack. All the while we used a state of the art system; the F-22, to take out a balloon, and people still complained.
I would love to see a video with you and growling sidewinder! He could definately show you the capability of the f22 and watching the two of you dogfight would be amazing!!!
He’ll do some of that “thrust vectoring bs” 😂
Growling Sidewinder made a video, he in a Su-27, against a friend in F22. That video was frightening. I recommend to watch that, to understand what a f22 could do.
Love your videos OD!! Nice that you keep bringing DCS videos!
I'm like 90% sure the book he mentions was my first introduction to the Raptor too. And the F-22 also dethroned the Tomcat as my favorite jet fighter.
Watching this as I see updates on the scramble of fighters in Montana. What a time to be alive
My first flight sim was a game called F-22 Lightning 2, which I guess came out in '96 :D I've loved the F-22 ever since; it has such a beautiful aesthetic to me.
Funny nuff, I had a 3-D scholastic book too back in school that got me into planes
Keep up the awesome work, and keep kicking ass!
I need to play this. My dad worked for Pratt & Whitney for years and worked on (inspection and blueprint correction) on the PW5000 engines for the f22. I used to have the engine schematics as a poster on my door growing up. Was my favorite airplane after the f4j phantom. I was a huge fan of the Jane's combat fight simulator I think I'll like this game
OoooooOooooo you want to take a photo of it and send it to eagle dynamics ooooOooOoo
Very cool. Ha ! realized I was on the edge of my seat leaning as you were doing tight turns. 😂
When you see Drewski uploading about DCS. You know its gonna be a banger!
Oh hell yeah! I knew I liked you for a reason, a fellow lover of the F-14 Tomcat. Loved it since it came out…which was first flown in my childhood.
The fact that this thing existed in the same century that the titanic sank is wild.
Honestly, a tutorial on how you're using the radar in the F22 would be phenomenal.. I always end up having to use visual identification and shots with the 120s. I can never figure out the radar usage in the mod.
it uses the same radar as the f15 for this mod, as most of its systems are taken from the f15, and there is plenty of f15 tutorials on youtube, and i bet they would help you out a lot
@@thegman431 oh snap. I forget that most times I go to fly it. Thanks dude. 😅 I'll have to check those out. I literally bought fc3 JUST for the f22 mod
My grandmother's cousin who I had the great fortune of meeting was one of the lead project managers of the f14 tomcat.
man, been waiting so long for another dcs vid, thanks so much keep it going
The estimated RCS of the f22 is about 0.001 m^2, which is comparable to a bumble bee, whereas the f3 is estimated at 0.05 m^2, closer to a golf ball. Additionally, the SU-57 has an estimation of 0.1 - 1 m^2 of RCS.
Another interesting fact of the F22 is that it is so capable that the US made a doctrine disallowing export of it, however this was tested when it was almost sold to Israel, though the sale never went through.
It was always fun watching the F-22 fly circles around everyone when we would go on detachments to Fallon. Our other fighters aren't even in the same weight class as it.
F22 popping a balloon: "done such heroic feats... fought such dangerous foes"
I think I just saw the new meme for this week among viper and eagle drivers.
Well, at least them poor raptors finally got some.
We have a USAF base and Naval base here in Guam. I hear or see lots of jets like F16s zoom by everyday.
That f-18 is an aggressor model used in training. I have seen them around NAS Oceana.
1:10 Tomcat’s 4 ever, sad story that they are out of service, but still they were the best navy jet looking ngl 👌
Drewski love ❤️ watching your DCS content ⛳
When I was a kid, in like 2004ish an F-22 would do transonic flights over my house every once in a while. I think they were coming from Arnold Air Force Base. At the time I thought the sonic booms were pretty annoying, but as I've gotten more into aviation I look back at it pretty fondly.
Highly unlikely it was breaking the sound barrier over your house. USAF jets aren't allowed to do that as it can cause damage to windows, etc. Chances are it was just loud as the F-22 and F-35 are extremely loud.
Edit: The only times they are allowed to break the sound barrier over land would be in an emergency situation, and when they have very specific authorization from a higher ranking officer to do so. Also, when training over water they're allowed to do it, and no authorization is required over water.
@@SymeonPhronema I agree they weren't likely intending to hit mach, but it was 2000 and some hotshot pilots were probably willing to get closer to that line than they ought to. I'm pretty sure they were real sonic booms though. Usually when the jets went over head it would be like very nearby rolling thunder, slowly fading away into the distance, occasionally though there would also be a massive boom that was just over in an instant, like a shot from a rifle.
Now for a good time, get Growling Sidewinder in the F-22 with fangs out and let’s see how the Mig-21 fares.
That was a great dogfight with the Flanker.
13:20 that gave me fucking goosebumps man lmao. Major Ace Combat enemy boss vibes
11:20 "your on your own noble, carter out"
1:21 aerobatics* 1:31 Mig-29 Fulcrum*
0:21 Instantly reminded me of the "weather balloon"
Was literally just thinking about old dos based flight Sims and how far we've come.
Drewski I was born the same year as you and I'm pretty sure I got the exact same book at my book fair. I remember showing my uncle the Tomcat and telling him that was my favorite jet.
Please spend more time in DCS, Seriously. You are so much fun to watch in this world.
We do use the f22 for homeland patrol. That's their primary function. So it makes sense to use them. They also have super cruise so they can cover more ground quickly without using as much fuel.
The Air Force doesn't care about fuel usage unless it's about range.
I remember playing F-22: Total Air War as a reasonably young kid (about 11 perhaps?). F-22 will always have a place in my heart xD
The F-22 is Basically a super maneuverable stealth F-15…
its the same version just fcs override
@@johnxina6823 I thought they had the override fcs in the previous version. Did they update it for the vectoring?
@@sentinel8185 they never updated it in like 3 years just turn it in boom
@@johnxina6823 So they didn’t updated it to have thrust vectoring… Lame. 😒
FCS has been in the F-22 Mod for a long time, it’s just an AOA limit on the ailerons and elevators.
I just randomly came across this video. And being from Guam I immediately noticed all the hotels that’s a pretty detailed map 😂
My dude... there is a mod with full thrust vectoring. Growling sidewinder rocks that shiz on the daily 😆 but for real you are the man and I wish I could just have one go in your setup... much love!
Thank you so much for making these videos drewski, you got me into dcs and inspired me to save for 2 years for a 1000 dollar pc, I just have to say thank you! I now fly the froggy, f-16, f-18, su-27/j-11a, the f-5, and even the a-10c. Your videos really helped me learn tactics, not just basic flying.
im really interested in getting it! i take it you would recommend?
Which one?
I could be wrong, but I remember hearing in some other TH-cam video that the F22 has a radar cross-section equivalent to a bumblebee while the F35 has one closer to a hummingbird. I think it was something along those lines. I also recall that some radars can tell roughly where it is, but actually locking onto it, especially for long-range radar guided SAMs, to fire missiles at it is damn near impossible.
Correct, radar can see exactly where stealth fighters are but locking on to them is pretty hard.
This F-22 is such a blast to fly. I absolutely love this thing. It'll spoil you pretty quickly when you try to go back to an older aircraft.
It's about time. Now they need to update the mod to have the Spy Balloon marking
Some community liveries have already been made. The F-22 mod is no longer receiving updates unless to keep it working in the current DCS version
Right as you were approaching first merge I was like SLOW DOWN!!!! xD
Good fight.
The radar cross-section of a F-22 is the same as a sparrow (the bird).
Flew by the apartment buildings I live in!’ Made me cry tears of joy.
oh the foes that this thing faced... a baloon xD /s in all seriousness great plane, happy to see you get back (maybe for longer) to dcs!
If true, it’s second kill was a “TicTac” UFO in Northern Alaska. So it’s an extreme spread of kills that it was never designed to take out.
As best we know.. F-22 reportedly around 0.0001m^2 vs F-35 at 0.005m^2. Basically the F-22 is a bumble bee and the F-35 is a humming bird.
Scholastic book fairs were goated, went straight for the diary of a wimpy kid and military books every time
The F-35 is a multi-role fighter and the F-22 a stealthy air superiority fighter.
11:20 turns out the F-22 has more in common with Halo than we thought, it's energy shielded!
I think you have to buy the F-15C or FC3 modules to be able to use the plane. Great video though.
I love the music you use in your videos 👍
The part where you see the F22 coming XD that was epic cinematography XDDDDDD
love the video keep it up man
Drewski pulling out the Holdo Manuever to take out bomber! :D :D
Fire an aim-120 anyway. They will lock onto whatever they can when fired without a specific target locked by your radar
Supposedly f22 RCS is equivalent to a metal marble, f35 RCS metal golf ball. Who knows if that’s true, but either way they should both be very hard to detect. f35 should have a massive advantage in situational awareness though.
The radar cross section of a f-22 is about 0.0001 meters squared………or the size of a bug. Fun fact the B-2 has pretty much the same RCS.
1:58 the F-22s tracking the balloon were jamming its communications while recording and collecting them. Only other plane that could have done that is the F-35 but its flight ceiling is too low.
Great job, now we gotta see what you can do with the F-15 in a PVP server. Xp
Just Pure awesomeness
Technically, there's an f22 flight sim from the late 90s for pc. It's super old tho. Same company made a sim for Abrams and Comanche