Amazing! Been using this to help out an aggressive flank on arena and it's been working great! Appreciate it man and keep the civ/map/position specific builds!
Thx for this buildorder. Tbh. i struggled with Food in the Knight production, so i optimiced it for me. Maybe others will like it too. It was made and tested for civs without any eco Bonus. If you have a civ. like the Franks this will be way easier. In the buildorder i dont mention building Houses, Mills & Lumbercamps bcs. you see when it need to be done. On the left side you see how much Vills you need to send somewhere, on the right you see the Villager counter per Resource. 7 Food TC (6th to Boar) 7 Food ( Vills. on Res. counter) 4 Wood 4 Wood 3 Food TC 10 Food 4 Food Berries 14 Food 5 Wood 9 Wood 4 Gold 4 Gold CLICK UP 28 pop. with Scout Way up: Build BARRACK Feudal: 2 Gold 6 Gold ( Vills. on Res. counter) 3 from Berries to Gold 9 Gold Build Stable & Blacksmith Build 9 Farms CLICK UP
Way Up: Build 2nd Stable Build 3 Farms Castle: 2 Food 13 Food ( Vills. on Res. counter) 2 Gold 11 Gold Rest to Wood to make more and more Farms
Actually Im playing smth similar on hideout. Going standard FC build with 26+2 pop and two stables . But trying to bust gates after firts 5/6 knights and constantly producing from 2 stables and trying not to idle the TC. The aim is to deal eco damage and force responce usually pikes. Than I would do forward SWs and may be range or baracks depending on the opponent civ and mine. I play it with Franks, Slavs or Berbers. The slavs do farm faster and have cheaper siege. I would go Knights and sorps with them most likely to clean up the pikes. Berbers stables spam is cheaper in from castle age and I find easier to keep production from 1 TC and 2 stables. Also I could mix in some camels with them if I lack a little resources or the enemy tryes to counter my knights with his own or camels. For Franks its well explained in the video. Usually my second and third TC come a little later but I do try to builds up eco. Ofc it is different as I do not try to kill the opponent with the first wave but have him on the back foot for the rest of the game with the attack comming around the time he would be building the extra TCs.
I think it is possible with Berbers, but I feel like farms would begin to expire (no free horse collar or plow) and also no free Bloodlines. The cheaper stable is definitely a + though
@@HumzaCrumza I saw this video and tried it with Berbers and got 20 knights in 19:58! I basically did a good FC (up before 15:00) and then you can do 2 stable knight production, which takes 5 minutes to get to 20 knights, and then do scale barding armor and bloodlines while running towards the enemy. I did this with double bit axe and horse collar before making farms, so that's pretty decent for the eco. I had to idle the TC in castle age though and ended up with 27 villagers only, but I ended up with almost enough wood to make an extra TC. You save 400 resources on the knights, needing 4 villagers less to keep up the knight production. If you're interested I have the replay.
@@Pecuniarly Absolutely I'm interested! Do you know if you would be able to also produce the 30 knights by 22:30? Or does your build focus mostly on getting those 20 knights out?
@@HumzaCrumza ehm, 30 knights by 22:30 should just be possible with no idle time on the two stables, but no bloodlines then. Regarding eco 10 farmers and 12 gold miners should be enough to create 2 stable knights indefinitely, plus a few for wood and new houses, but expanding eco is hardly possible. Building a 3rd stable for bloodlines would be useless since you can only keep 2 stables busy anyway with the low eco. Because of having double bit axe and having invested in way fewer farmers and only two stables, I think this Berber variant suits better for transition to a boom. Also a real FC is a better known build and less risky if your opponent goes for early agression.
If you didn’t have so many knights cued you could have continually produced vills. Those queued units are dead resources, your idle TC is not great and can be avoided.
Yes - should still work with no issues. If you run into a food issue, add one more vill in dark age to wood so you can seed another farm later on. It will make the timing slightly later but still solid
Great channel, great contents Hope your channel keeps growing and I would really appreciate your videos in HD Did you try the BE rush of Malay or the new meme Scorpion Khmer rush? Regards
Good build. Wish it was against a real player as anyone seeing that score would immediately build pikes, scout etc. I kept wondering why the other player wasn't reacting then you said its ai....
I like doing vs. AI to show a nice clean build, but the first two background clips were me pulling the strategy off against two actual players on Ranked on Hideout and Lombardia respectively. I get pretty stressed trying to do ladder + talk about a strategy 11 For the score; when you are doing this strat, it actually looks like you're booming (score-wise). Example of this is in the first clip the enemy was booming and I was knight rushing and we both had a 2.9k score. Thats one of the reasons I like this so much! (I should've talked a little on this in the video :0 )
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these 20 villagers produced from the farms really do some serious damage
Amazing! Been using this to help out an aggressive flank on arena and it's been working great! Appreciate it man and keep the civ/map/position specific builds!
Thx for this buildorder. Tbh. i struggled with Food in the Knight production, so i optimiced it for me. Maybe others will like it too. It was made and tested for civs without any eco Bonus. If you have a civ. like the Franks this will be way easier. In the buildorder i dont mention building Houses, Mills & Lumbercamps bcs. you see when it need to be done. On the left side you see how much Vills you need to send somewhere, on the right you see the Villager counter per Resource.
7 Food TC (6th to Boar) 7 Food ( Vills. on Res. counter)
4 Wood 4 Wood
3 Food TC 10 Food
4 Food Berries 14 Food
5 Wood 9 Wood
4 Gold 4 Gold
CLICK UP 28 pop. with Scout
Way up:
Build BARRACK
Feudal:
2 Gold 6 Gold ( Vills. on Res. counter)
3 from Berries to Gold 9 Gold
Build Stable & Blacksmith
Build 9 Farms
CLICK UP
Way Up:
Build 2nd Stable
Build 3 Farms
Castle:
2 Food 13 Food ( Vills. on Res. counter)
2 Gold 11 Gold
Rest to Wood to make more and more Farms
Sick strategy for my favorite civ!
I hope your channel keeps growing :) keep it up!
Great video! I reckon you could get away with this as a pocket, if one of your allies gets siege it could be an early wipe-out.
Actually Im playing smth similar on hideout. Going standard FC build with 26+2 pop and two stables . But trying to bust gates after firts 5/6 knights and constantly producing from 2 stables and trying not to idle the TC. The aim is to deal eco damage and force responce usually pikes. Than I would do forward SWs and may be range or baracks depending on the opponent civ and mine. I play it with Franks, Slavs or Berbers. The slavs do farm faster and have cheaper siege. I would go Knights and sorps with them most likely to clean up the pikes. Berbers stables spam is cheaper in from castle age and I find easier to keep production from 1 TC and 2 stables. Also I could mix in some camels with them if I lack a little resources or the enemy tryes to counter my knights with his own or camels. For Franks its well explained in the video.
Usually my second and third TC come a little later but I do try to builds up eco. Ofc it is different as I do not try to kill the opponent with the first wave but have him on the back foot for the rest of the game with the attack comming around the time he would be building the extra TCs.
You are the kind of guys that gives me free elo
I still come back to this video every once in a while 11
What's the percussion music at the beginning?
12:58 You should get the armor upgrades while keeping the stables qued up with less in line 20+2 knights is important
Thank you
I feel like the 2nd wood camp is a waste of wood if you only have two villagers working on it in the end, also, three stables should be do ok
Can make with 23 minutes 1 castle, place 2 in rock (dark age )
Very nice this build order!!! Congrats!
Can you make a B.O for water maps, like Four Lakes?
Leonardo Geyer it would be cool Building Orders for open water maps. Standard and Naval civs as well
This is only a 3v3 or 4v4 viable build, of you pull this off at 2v2 or 1v1 its because of your opponents mistakes
And please don't send knights without upgrades, 15 archers with both damage upgrade can defend that, or 12 pikemen will diminish your numbers by a lot
You could do this as Berbers.
Cheaper knights means you don't idle TC and keep production
I think it is possible with Berbers, but I feel like farms would begin to expire (no free horse collar or plow) and also no free Bloodlines. The cheaper stable is definitely a + though
@@HumzaCrumza I saw this video and tried it with Berbers and got 20 knights in 19:58! I basically did a good FC (up before 15:00) and then you can do 2 stable knight production, which takes 5 minutes to get to 20 knights, and then do scale barding armor and bloodlines while running towards the enemy. I did this with double bit axe and horse collar before making farms, so that's pretty decent for the eco. I had to idle the TC in castle age though and ended up with 27 villagers only, but I ended up with almost enough wood to make an extra TC. You save 400 resources on the knights, needing 4 villagers less to keep up the knight production. If you're interested I have the replay.
@@Pecuniarly Absolutely I'm interested! Do you know if you would be able to also produce the 30 knights by 22:30? Or does your build focus mostly on getting those 20 knights out?
@@HumzaCrumza ehm, 30 knights by 22:30 should just be possible with no idle time on the two stables, but no bloodlines then. Regarding eco 10 farmers and 12 gold miners should be enough to create 2 stable knights indefinitely, plus a few for wood and new houses, but expanding eco is hardly possible. Building a 3rd stable for bloodlines would be useless since you can only keep 2 stables busy anyway with the low eco. Because of having double bit axe and having invested in way fewer farmers and only two stables, I think this Berber variant suits better for transition to a boom. Also a real FC is a better known build and less risky if your opponent goes for early agression.
@HumzaCrumza: it took me a bit, but I managed to create a video of my Berber build order: th-cam.com/video/X4BjwQmHOJY/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, I will try to get close to this.
If you didn’t have so many knights cued you could have continually produced vills. Those queued units are dead resources, your idle TC is not great and can be avoided.
Your content is amazing and unique. Please can you upload in 1080p? 720p is too low.
Thanks! Also, in later uploads I have made the upgrade to 1080p but unfortunately the ones before that cannot be improved
Time to try this tonight and impress the dude I play vs AI with :D
Nice! Does this work against stone walls now?
Does this build still work in the current patch of AoE2 DE?
Yes - should still work with no issues. If you run into a food issue, add one more vill in dark age to wood so you can seed another farm later on. It will make the timing slightly later but still solid
20knights from Sicilians is the best in game coz pikes can’t counter it well.
Great channel, great contents
Hope your channel keeps growing and I would really appreciate your videos in HD
Did you try the BE rush of Malay or the new meme Scorpion Khmer rush?
Regards
good job
Can be good with berber too i think, but the knight frank are tanky af, interessting
Good build. Wish it was against a real player as anyone seeing that score would immediately build pikes, scout etc. I kept wondering why the other player wasn't reacting then you said its ai....
I like doing vs. AI to show a nice clean build, but the first two background clips were me pulling the strategy off against two actual players on Ranked on Hideout and Lombardia respectively. I get pretty stressed trying to do ladder + talk about a strategy 11
For the score; when you are doing this strat, it actually looks like you're booming (score-wise). Example of this is in the first clip the enemy was booming and I was knight rushing and we both had a 2.9k score. Thats one of the reasons I like this so much! (I should've talked a little on this in the video :0 )
That makes sense. I would have trouble pulling that off and explaining at the same time too 11. Great vid man!
really nice but i would focus the build more in vills production and dont get the tc iddle
You are missing the point
The unscouted part doesn’t really matter much. If I’m playing vs franks. I’m already making pikemen no matter what 😂
why not go berbers instead
I protest, there is no introduction to first intro, which is properly followed by second intro!
What is this guy playing easy AI. He’s got double the score at 20 minutes hahahhahhahah. This guys channel will never grow.
Hey Daniel, your comment sucks
Do you have brain damage?
its just to show the build and bet he could beat your elo legend ass
Says the guy with 1 sub over 8 years.... U must know alot about growing channels