I had a DSC, decent control issue, suspension lowered, bo special functions. Turned out to be the steering angle sensor, bit of metal weld glue on the silly flimsy plastic around the steering shaft under the dash, and a steering angle reset. Fixed!
@BIKE LIFE MARK I've got some pictures but not sure how to send via TH-cam, after gluing you will need to get the steering recalibrated, most garages cant do this, by any specialist landy garage will have the software. If you can feel the plastic collar the glue needs to go between the plastic and the shaft so they are fixed together.
Great and very useful video - thanks. Moment of the video = Vera "and I have to live with him" - wonderful... You two are a great pair and compliment each other perfectly.
Thanks for the mention! I was having a similar issue (HDC fault, transmission failure, and traction control light on) and it turned out to be an electrical issue: the wire that comes from fuse 66P was corroded at a splice due to water in the passenger side door sill. This wire supplies power to various switches (brake, HDC, and DSC) that are sensed by the ABS module. Other than the warning lights, the vehicle also refused to raise the suspension to normal height. It's amazing how something so simple can cripple a vehicle! Anyway, I'm glad to hear that yours is working!
Hoi Christian and Vera. Maybe someone already mentioned it in the comments. I had a problem with a stuck carbon brush in the motor on the dsc. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Hello Christian and Vera: just discovered your channel and binge watched everything! Hopefully you will encourage anyone considering an LR3 or Discovery to buy one. It's a rewarding car and a bargain if you willing to get your hands dirty and do your own work.
👍 Well said, we believe that too. And it's the main goal of our content to take away the fear of working on a Land Rover. I know we have a pit in the garage now, but we were fixing our own cars long before that, on the street, in the rain, and what not. 😃🙋♀️ Vera
Very entertaining, better than TV. Thankfully I’m an ex-D3 owner and much poorer for having been one for 10 years. I truly admire your perseverance and zen-like calm in your work. As my independent Land Rover garage mechanic used to say when I complained about my D3, “reliability is overrated “. 😂. Keep up the great work.
Yes that is well put by a Land Rover mechanic. We always talk about making a video about "Quality versus Reliability" in context of comparing a Dacia, which is reliable but poor has quality and a Land Rover which has high standard of quality but poor reliability.👍🙋♀️ Vera
These videos are brilliant. I don’t own a LR yet but will defo have to get one at some stage as I fell in love with working on them after spending nearly 2 years at the local JLR dealership still don’t like Jags though ...! 😂 those brake bleeding tools work perfect! The official bleeding procedure on disco four (RHD) is rear left > front left rear right>front right . It’s probably opposite on LHD LR’s. Really loving the content.
My Wife’s Toyota had an ABS problem “Brakes hammered” through the pedal as if locked with just gentle braking in a turn. No codes funny noise from pump. I check the wheel sensor signals all seemed good (Picoscope). I cleaned the toothed wheel speed sensor reluctor wheels and found one had fractured due to rust expansion and moved slightly. In a turn the wheel sensor lost the signal triggering the ABS. (18 Year Old Toyota). I removed the driveshaft and replaced the reluctor wheel, purchased from a German company and End of problem. The noise was the ABS. During braking the ABS is actuated by a stopped reluctor wheel being sensed, or in our case displaced reluctor wheel, it blocks further pedal pressure and releases some until the wheel spins and you feel hammering through the pedal. The displaced fluid is stored in an accumulator under spring pressure and returned to the reservoir when brakes are released. If the chamber becomes full under braking a pressure pump is operated to return fluid (The noise I heard). I have never heard that noise before and I am sure some would replace the ABS Unit for that noise. Reluctor wheels front set 15 euros. 18 year old Toyota Yaris. The rust under the reluctor wheel was so hard I had to chip the rust off with a small hammer and they emery paper the Hub clean. (Safety glasses)!. The reason for two reservoirs is dual circuit brakes, half your brakes may fail due pipe or seal failure but pumping the pedal means the other part of the circuit (Dual Circuit) will still stop the car. Brake fluid is hydroscopic (Draws in water) and should be changed at correct service intervals, absorbed water can turn to steam during extreme braking due to excessive heat leading to brake fade, it can also promote corrosion in the brake system due to the moisture. We all change the brake fluid when we should right?😀. Wheel speed sensors have a hard life the wheels move up and down and steering movement bends and twists the wires and eventually they break. This is going to affect a lot of systems as their input is critical. I had an Audi A6 at 180,000 miles a front wheel speed sensor failed and I replaced it two weeks later problem came back but this time the other front wheel. Who would have thought wire bending and flexing during suspension movement and steering would fail at about the same time?😀. High mileage if one goes consider doing the rest. Excellent teamwork very good work, you do your research and do it properly and put a god few mechanics to shame. Love your sense of humour it’s gets you through the day.
Too long to wait a week to see you here guys! Regarding the diagnose tool, sell yours and get ad iidTool. It is able also to bleed your abs module if needed... I have managed a similar issue on a friend D3 and the problem was the wiring harness close to the ABS pump, moving it a bit fixed the ABS fault on the dashboard. A further analysis revealed 2 spliced wires (suppose due to vibrations) touching together...
Christian, you definitely need to run the ABS bleeding cycle with the proper tool. I use iCarsoft LR V2.0. I don't have a LR3 though (I will buy ond this week) but use it for my XF Sportswagon.
The ABS module in the Discovery Series II was also problematic, but seems like the D3 has even more issues with the ABS module. :( Perhaps activating hill descent control will also help purge air from the ABS module.
I had a discovery 3, it was the worst, best vehicle I ever owned.A good piece of kit. 🙄 I do miss it thought , looking at buying a discovery sport soon .Nice video. 👍🇬🇧
Now after 14 Years i know why you can flip the Armrest all the was back. What you have to realize... A Land Rover ist never totaly broken but also never totaly fine.
Fun Fact: I nearly crashed my phaeton V10 as In a Dutch caravan on the Autobahn as he pulled into left lane while I came rushing on with 220kmh. Turns out the guy I bought the car weeks before messed with the ABS pump, but never bled the actual Pump circuit, so as I braked hard as possible the pump pushed air in my hydraulics what made the brakes fade so hard for a few seconds. No need to say that I shat my pants :D
Question: It's possible to use "descent assistance" if go backwards? Sometime when you crawling on some hill, wet one, and you was not able to reach the top and you need to make bottom safely for new attempt
I believe brake fluid is hygroscopic, so any opened container should have a use by date. I used a syringe and tubing to extract as much as possible of the old brake fluid on my P38, still need to do a proper bleed at each wheel.
To tell you the truth, we knew that too. But we were so caught up in the workflow and filming and just getting done, that we did not take a moment and think that situation through. I think it was Christmas Eve when we filled the brake fluid. I hope we learned something 😂👍🙋♀️ Vera
Again Chris, Kristen and Vera, I hope I get that right, I Apologise. Always Awsome, I did my brake sensor the other day, Yes I have a Mate, but without YOU, I would not even attempt. I still need those Rails as Vera Repiled 🤔😕 and I would love a Sticker and would Pay as well as P&P. Keep it up Both, You are a great and Loving Team...it's why we love disco. But what a Team 😊
You just have to send me an email with your adress, no cost at all. And I finally found the link where we got the rails from Airlineschiene, schwarz, halbrund, gebohrt 2 Meter | Zurrschienen | Zubehör | Fahrzeugtechnik | Oryxsolutions 👍🙋♀️ Vera
We use this one amzn.to/3qARF66 for our LR3 and LR4. We think it has everything one needs and can definitely recommend it. However, icarsoft has now two upgraded version you might want to check out on their web page www.icarsoft.eu/LandRover-Diagnostic-Tools Just make sure you get one just for Land Rover / Jaguar. Not a universal one. 🙋♀️ Vera
I wonder if this is the main reason for the 3 amigos here in the US - nobody likes to flush their brake systems out completely. We do it like you did - at the individual wheel, not knowing that there are more places for the old fluid to hide and ruin the system.
Your Disco really does like giving you content to work upon :) Not sure what you're symptoms were, but Christmas tree on the dash, suspension lowering, no speedo, can also be caused by (partially) burned brake lights... Cheers!
😂👍 You know, sometimes the fuel gauge just drops down to empty. Maybe we should tackle that problem for one of the next videos. Our Disco has many suprises for you guys in stock 😂👍🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_ChristianI've read about issue before. I'm happy I don't do TH-cam, as my car hasn't given me any issues for the past 10.000km+, except for the tailgate struts failing.
@@Vera_and_Christian In the end, it's good that our cars do what we expect of them. Mine does work hard, frequently in remote areas with no cell coverage and I am alone. Yours can drive on the autobahn even in access mode, as Christian said in this video, so the occasional issue that generates content for your channel is probably welcomed :) Take care!
We just finished watching Blade Runner 2049 before this... I think Ridley Scott is going to be calling you guys any day now for some epic dystopian family friendly B-roll to insert in his next LR commercial. 😬Seriously though - so frustrating (I was thinking the same thing at that same moment) but very edutaining, as ever. Cool sticker too 🤙🍻🙏
Another great video my discovery tends to fix it self lol. Still got to do egr valves but missis had me working on her car disc pads and front wheel bearing lol if I take battery of will it mess up car ie radio codes or will it be fine
Yes the wifes car is of course more important 👍👌. Unfortunately, we did the egr Valves first thing when we got the car, even before the oilpump so before we made videos. When you remove the battery on our Disco, nothing happens. On my Freelander, I need to enter the code. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
Hi Christian, a question, what are the schematics and plans you are using in this repair? I only have the Haynes manual and you are probably aware these are only a good guide but not truly comprehensive. the yellow folder you have contains very good detailed information that my wife and I saw! I said last time I have a D3 kitted out for overlanding (painted in Camo) but currently I took the lockdowns as a chance to do a big refurbishment, Body off two new turbos, straight through de cat pipe, new oil pump (snapped bolt as doing it! ) full timing belt kits, fit new wiring loom to electric brake unit oh and while I'm at it rub the chassis down and give it a good anti corrosion treatment, All the best Phil and Louise
@@Vera_and_Christian Just noticed this is from Duckworths LR, they are 7 miles from my location, I know a few guys there or have worked there, good dealer but like you said my god I cant use them as a regular owner, parts sometime not to costly but over 100 Euros an hour labour rate, so like you I do most of the work of have ex landrover guy who can do work for me at a better rate! lol
@@philadams92 You are right, I even had to pay 25 € at our Land Rover shop for them to even talk to me in person. That was nine years ago, god knows what they charge now. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
Hi Christian im having an issue thats similar. I have ABS, BRAKE and trans fault while lowering suspension. It is intermittent. Parking Overnight, front sits about 3/4 inch lower than rear. Can a bad valve block cause these lights? Thank you! Great videos btw! Really enjoy it !
Hello Kushan, our car is also sacking about 3/4 inch every night. That is normal for us. But you need to have a diagnostic tool hooked up to your car, like the icarsoft OBDii for Land Rover. Only when you have a fault code presented to you, can you analyze the problem. Everything else is just a wild guessing game. 🙋♀️ Vera
You're right, have you watched our video "15 things you may not know about your LR3" th-cam.com/video/cQ0zStW7tW8/w-d-xo.html It's I think the last topic covered 👍🙋♀️ Vera
Hi to you both for another great video I can share your pain with the DSC fault I have just replaced the rubber bushes in my front lower wishbones then the DSC fault plagued me cleaned the ABS sensors and replaced one which had a bit of noise, reset the steering angle sensor all to no avail. However after a drive and the four reset of the steering angle sensor the faults have not returned (so far) I suspect that the DSC signal from the steering angle sensor is very critical and extremely sensitive Did you say you had the GAP iiD tool that is what I use (although I also have the IDS tool also) the GAP tool is very good and you can also edit the CCF file with ease Regards and good luck
I have been following your episodes for a time and I now I have a problem my mechanics cant resolve. The problem is, while driving after some minutes there is a message " suspension fault" slow dawn and the vehicle will lower, ABS signal DSC not working and cruise control not working. Last year I bought X Lifter kit and I love being control of how high the car is, I am using it for off road driving in Iceland and in the snow in winter time. I have 17 inc wheels so I have more rubber and softer driving on gravel roads and deflated in the snow. One of the mechanics after going through the computer test that the switch on the brake pedal was known to brake, I changed that but still the same problem he also mentioned that the wire in the left threshold was once known to brake once. Something to with the brakes. Have you had any experience with a problem like that. By the way the light bulb for the left braking light is broken. My car is 2007 LR3 with 270,000 km. The engine was rebuilt 3 years ago broken Block and a new converter for the transmission 2 years ago. That was my own fault, trying to pull my 38 foot yacht between places. If you have experienced any thing like this I would love to know about that. Greetings fro Ísland. Egill Kolbeinsson DDS Hafnarfjörður Iceland email egill@navi.is
Hi Cristian, can we replace the faulty inbuilt air compressor with the portable air compressor, replacing a compressor cost 500$ approx where as a good quality portable air portable compressor will cost less than 100$
Hello Christian and Vera, I have issue with my LR3 during these cold days....my I ask you for a consultation please? temperatures bellow 1-2°C - engine starts fine, rides fine. After about one to three minutes yellow parking brake light starts blinking together with navi screen blinking and restarting, also on interior light I can see periodical voltage drops (light dimming), all with frequency about 2-4Hz. After another 10-30seconds it stabilizes itself, navi works, parking brake symbol is off. usually during next minute suspension light goes orange. Turning car off an on again (I am working as software supporter:-) ) all repeats it self. If temperature is above 5°C, then this is not happening. When using ODBII while engine still running after this issue, list of error codes contains this: U0132, C1A00, U0132, U0159, U0122, B1A96, B1D79, B1B70, B1C62, C1A20 My guess is that there is rusted ground or badly performing relay, but cannot find any common point for Parking brake and Navis screen. I also tried to renew the connector of ABS module because of CAN bus terminator there, but no change. Accumulator changed couple day before. Do not have any guess, while you may be "was already there"? Thank you for any idea.
You have to decode the faults. We have several videos how to diagnose the dsc and air suspension. Ignor the u faults as we said in many videos. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian Thank you. I moved a little bit forward now. I detected that charging voltage was kind of oscilating unprectively between 14 - 16+V, so I was happy about the "aha, that is it", but when I mounted new alternator it stays stable, but higher that expected. Engine ON - on battery I can measure 15,3V stable, in ODB2 tool I can see 14,9V (0,4V drop), also stable. How does your voltage looks on battery and on diagnostic tool on Vera's car while running? Is there also any difference? 😲
Christian what is the manual you are using to service the Discovery? Is it a Haynes manual? If it is I would recommend you spend whatever it takes to buy the genuine Land Rover manual, I still have mine for my Discovery 2 even though I no longer have the car. It wasn't cheap being just around £70 but it was still worth it. I had a diagnostic tool too and that I used to completely automatically bleed the braking system using the ABS pump itself to do the pumping of the brake fluid, and I worked a treat. You should Never, Never use old brake fluid under any circumstances. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, that being it absorbs water from the atmosphere and will cause brake fade when you need good brakes most as in an emergency stop. The brakes get hot and boil the water into steam which can be compressed thus loosing pressure in the lines and on the brake calipers when you are trying to stop in an emergency. So old fluid is a no no!
You need to get a brake fluid moisture pen , it tells you the condition of the fluid . Cheep investment !!!! I use TRW Brake fluid It the only one that does not have moisture in it before you start the bleeding job !!!
@@Vera_and_Christian Hi Vera when it’s not in use take the battery out.The first one I bought didn’t last ,the second one has been fine because the battery removal,I hope this helps . Take care , Keep safe
Hello Sir & Madam, I've been following your videos for sometime, ever since i was planning to buy a Disco 3, now that I have bought a 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 GS just days ago, I seek your valuable assistance as the scanner tool as suggested by you is on it's way from US & sadly the previous owner lost the owner's manual. The vehicle shows no faults at system check, there are not fault signs after ignition, The suspension works fine at all the levels, the terrain response gets selected in all modes but while driving the vehicle mostly after 40 kmph ( sometimes it activates at 60~75 kmph ) the DSC light comes up followed by Suspension fault light, stating 'ENGINE SYSTEM FAULT' "SUSPENSION LOWERED" & the vehicle doesn't accelerate any further, I've checked with a regular ODB II tool, there are no engine codes. The system goes normal after switching off the vehicle, the problem persist even after deactivating the "DSC". Kindly suggest me how should I approach, Thank you in advance for LR owners make them feel LR more "reliable"
😅👍Maybe, but if you mind the banging, you should watch Toyota videos. They are absolutely quiet. We are so proud of our Son working in his workshop. I'd rather not film videos than stop my son from working.🙋♀️Vera
Ja das würden wir auch liebendgern machen, aber leider haben wir nur 7% der Zuschauer aus dem Deutschsprachigen Raum. Allerdings wenn du spezielle Fragen oder Anregungen hast, sind gerne bereit zu helfen, soweit es uns möglich ist natürlich. Unsere Email findest du unter der Kanalinfo. Viele Grüße Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian gut 😄ich werd bestimmt die ein oder andere frage mal haben baue mir grade ein Discovery 3 neu auf. Erstmal technisch. Angefangen hat das mit dem Land Rover Fieber mit dem Freelander 2 😂mit dem ich nach Tunesien in die Wüste reiste. Seit ein paar Tagen hat bei mir ein Discovery 3 ein neues Zuhause gefunden.Freel Ander 2 bleibt trotzdem. Leider ohne Service Nachweise. Jetzt versuche ich alles mögliche über mein Discovery rauszufinden der jenige der mir dem Wagen verkauft hat; hat keine Ahnung von dem Auto gehabt und sich nicht dafür interessiet er brauchte dem nur kurz um hänger zu ziehen. Ich hoffe ich finde mal den vorbesitzer denn es macht mir den Eindruck das der sich Zeit für den Wagen genommen verbaut wurde zusätzlichen untefahrschutz. Und spuren von nen dachträger sind auch zu erkennen im Fahrzeug selbst hab ich das Werkzeug gefunden um Luft aus den Reifen zu lassen. Gehe davon aus das der Wagen mal für offroad reisen genutzt wurde. Ich habe eine land rover Werkstatt gefunden die haben gesagt der Wagen war oft bei denen aber dürfen mir nicht sagen wann was gemacht wurde =(Datenschutz. Für nen Auto?
@@saharaoffroadadventure6996 Super, ich hab ja auch einen Freelander. Das erste was wir gemacht haben ist die Ölpumpenabdeckung gewechselt. Die bricht gerne und dann hast du einen Totalschaden am Motor. Vielleicht ist das bei dir ja schon gemacht worden. Schau mal auf diesem Bild nach th-cam.com/channels/_WI2JddpJlbubwii_jIYWQ.htmlcommunity? Leider war diese Reparatur vor unserer TH-cam Zeit :lb=Ugwzc1jSqYJkFORcFtF4AaABCQ Wir haben auch ein Video über das icarsoft OBDii tool gemacht und wie du erkennen kannst wie lange das Auto in welchem Offroad modus verbracht hat. Das obdii tool wirst du dir ja eher kaufen wie das GAP Diagnostic tool da du ja noch einen Freelander hast. th-cam.com/video/w7GSOlZF8VM/w-d-xo.html Ich wünsche dir viel Freude an deinem Discovery, weist du die Farbe von deinem Disco? 🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian davon habe ich gehört mit der ölpumpe. Ich hoffe es ist gemacht er ist schon was an km gelaufen denke das hätte das pumpenrad nicht überlebt mit der Laufleistung es könnte vielleicht gemacht sein 😄dunkel blau ist ein HSE mit hellen leder
Get shut of it rover are okay when new old ones are a money pit the same unit goes on BMW also did you try putting your rover on a diagnostic and take code off rovers are good for electrical problems dont ask Waldo he is only learning himself
Landrover are just rubbish. The electronic parking brake, made out of plastic,, absolutely disgusting.. A 3 year old with lego could have built something better.... Total rubbish.
I had a DSC, decent control issue, suspension lowered, bo special functions. Turned out to be the steering angle sensor, bit of metal weld glue on the silly flimsy plastic around the steering shaft under the dash, and a steering angle reset. Fixed!
👍We checked the steering angle sensor, we knew that it can set off this fault too. 🙋♀️ Vera
@BIKE LIFE MARK I've got some pictures but not sure how to send via TH-cam, after gluing you will need to get the steering recalibrated, most garages cant do this, by any specialist landy garage will have the software. If you can feel the plastic collar the glue needs to go between the plastic and the shaft so they are fixed together.
I thought my car is unreliable but this guy turned his repairs into a whole youtube channel haha
Hi Christian ans Vera. We now know that Vera is the solution to all problems 😄🤣Look forward to your next video. Fred.
Fun watching the back and forth between you two 🙂
Great and very useful video - thanks. Moment of the video = Vera "and I have to live with him" - wonderful... You two are a great pair and compliment each other perfectly.
Vera - you have the patience of a saint - love the videos!
love to watch you 2 , makes me happy and laugh. keep up the good work
Thanks for the mention! I was having a similar issue (HDC fault, transmission failure, and traction control light on) and it turned out to be an electrical issue: the wire that comes from fuse 66P was corroded at a splice due to water in the passenger side door sill. This wire supplies power to various switches (brake, HDC, and DSC) that are sensed by the ABS module. Other than the warning lights, the vehicle also refused to raise the suspension to normal height. It's amazing how something so simple can cripple a vehicle! Anyway, I'm glad to hear that yours is working!
Hello Waldo, your car must have a sun roof I guess. I wonder if you can send us your mail address? We would like to send you our sticker. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian Thank you! Check your Instagram DMs
Hoi Christian and Vera. Maybe someone already mentioned it in the comments. I had a problem with a stuck carbon brush in the motor on the dsc. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I bought a used unit for 25 Euro. If this problem comes back, I intend to switch components and try to get lucky. 😬 Christian
Hello Christian and Vera: just discovered your channel and binge watched everything! Hopefully you will encourage anyone considering an LR3 or Discovery to buy one. It's a rewarding car and a bargain if you willing to get your hands dirty and do your own work.
👍 Well said, we believe that too. And it's the main goal of our content to take away the fear of working on a Land Rover. I know we have a pit in the garage now, but we were fixing our own cars long before that, on the street, in the rain, and what not. 😃🙋♀️ Vera
Very entertaining, better than TV. Thankfully I’m an ex-D3 owner and much poorer for having been one for 10 years. I truly admire your perseverance and zen-like calm in your work. As my independent Land Rover garage mechanic used to say when I complained about my D3, “reliability is overrated “. 😂. Keep up the great work.
Yes that is well put by a Land Rover mechanic. We always talk about making a video about "Quality versus Reliability" in context of comparing a Dacia, which is reliable but poor has quality and a Land Rover which has high standard of quality but poor reliability.👍🙋♀️ Vera
Clever use of HDC to cycle all the valves - smart thinking.
Yep that's a Disco3 for you...a mind of its own. Loved the video Guy's...
😂👍🙋♀️ Vera
She, your wife, has such a wonderful smile 😃
As always great to watch and another lesson learned. Thanks for posting.
If you have a diagnostic tool you can use the service routine to bleed the abs unit.
Christian and Vera great video and presentation from over the pond..)))))) 🇬🇧
Amazing that you can make a channel from the repair of a vehicle
These videos are brilliant. I don’t own a LR yet but will defo have to get one at some stage as I fell in love with working on them after spending nearly 2 years at the local JLR dealership still don’t like Jags though ...! 😂 those brake bleeding tools work perfect! The official bleeding procedure on disco four (RHD) is rear left > front left rear right>front right . It’s probably opposite on LHD LR’s. Really loving the content.
😃👍 Thank you🙋♀️Vera
Thank you for all that hard work, I learnt how to bleed the brakes!
Great program I hope to get a discovery soon greetings from ireland 🇮🇪
👍😃 You'll love it 🙋♀️ Vera
My Wife’s Toyota had an ABS problem “Brakes hammered” through the pedal as if locked with just gentle braking in a turn. No codes funny noise from pump. I check the wheel sensor signals all seemed good (Picoscope). I cleaned the toothed wheel speed sensor reluctor wheels and found one had fractured due to rust expansion and moved slightly. In a turn the wheel sensor lost the signal triggering the ABS. (18 Year Old Toyota). I removed the driveshaft and replaced the reluctor wheel, purchased from a German company and End of problem. The noise was the ABS. During braking the ABS is actuated by a stopped reluctor wheel being sensed, or in our case displaced reluctor wheel, it blocks further pedal pressure and releases some until the wheel spins and you feel hammering through the pedal. The displaced fluid is stored in an accumulator under spring pressure and returned to the reservoir when brakes are released. If the chamber becomes full under braking a pressure pump is operated to return fluid (The noise I heard). I have never heard that noise before and I am sure some would replace the ABS Unit for that noise. Reluctor wheels front set 15 euros. 18 year old Toyota Yaris. The rust under the reluctor wheel was so hard I had to chip the rust off with a small hammer and they emery paper the Hub clean. (Safety glasses)!. The reason for two reservoirs is dual circuit brakes, half your brakes may fail due pipe or seal failure but pumping the pedal means the other part of the circuit (Dual Circuit) will still stop the car. Brake fluid is hydroscopic (Draws in water) and should be changed at correct service intervals, absorbed water can turn to steam during extreme braking due to excessive heat leading to brake fade, it can also promote corrosion in the brake system due to the moisture. We all change the brake fluid when we should right?😀. Wheel speed sensors have a hard life the wheels move up and down and steering movement bends and twists the wires and eventually they break. This is going to affect a lot of systems as their input is critical. I had an Audi A6 at 180,000 miles a front wheel speed sensor failed and I replaced it two weeks later problem came back but this time the other front wheel. Who would have thought wire bending and flexing during suspension movement and steering would fail at about the same time?😀. High mileage if one goes consider doing the rest. Excellent teamwork very good work, you do your research and do it properly and put a god few mechanics to shame. Love your sense of humour it’s gets you through the day.
Too long to wait a week to see you here guys! Regarding the diagnose tool, sell yours and get ad iidTool. It is able also to bleed your abs module if needed... I have managed a similar issue on a friend D3 and the problem was the wiring harness close to the ABS pump, moving it a bit fixed the ABS fault on the dashboard. A further analysis revealed 2 spliced wires (suppose due to vibrations) touching together...
£500 hurts for the iid tool though 20+ years with LR’s doing everything diy I guess one day I will have to but ouch!
But don't you have to buy a licence for each additional vehicle you want to service with GAP tool? 600€ is just a lot of money. 🙋♀️ Vera
Thank you, yet again another fantastic collaboration by you both.
You got me wanting a Big Mac & fries after watching this.
😂👍🙋♀️ Vera
love the video's from Australia, and give Vera her pen back
Good brake fluid and the McDonald shuffle. Got it
Hi Vera and Christian, thanks for the sticker now I'm advertising for LR TIME 👍🏻😁
Christian, you definitely need to run the ABS bleeding cycle with the proper tool. I use iCarsoft LR V2.0. I don't have a LR3 though (I will buy ond this week) but use it for my XF Sportswagon.
Bonus will post this week good video always make me laugh 😆
The ABS module in the Discovery Series II was also problematic, but seems like the D3 has even more issues with the ABS module. :(
Perhaps activating hill descent control will also help purge air from the ABS module.
Hello. This time it was not easy. They should have printed one on the 3d machine 😄. A hug from Portugal.
I truely love the videos you guys make. Great stuff
😃🙏🙋♀️ Vera
I had a discovery 3, it was the worst, best vehicle I ever owned.A good piece of kit. 🙄 I do miss it thought , looking at buying a discovery sport soon .Nice video. 👍🇬🇧
Now after 14 Years i know why you can flip the Armrest all the was back. What you have to realize... A Land Rover ist never totaly broken but also never totaly fine.
You're right, and we have never been let down. We were always able to limb home. 🙋♀️ Vera
Fun Fact: I nearly crashed my phaeton V10 as In a Dutch caravan on the Autobahn as he pulled into left lane while I came rushing on with 220kmh. Turns out the guy I bought the car weeks before messed with the ABS pump, but never bled the actual Pump circuit, so as I braked hard as possible the pump pushed air in my hydraulics what made the brakes fade so hard for a few seconds. No need to say that I shat my pants :D
😳 my worst nightmare, but that's why I stay in the right lane 😅. Glad your alright and nothing happened. 🙋♀️ Vera
Thank you for your nice video, take care
Am so glad my LRD3 has not had any of these problems yet hope I have not jinxed it now 😁
😂😅👍🙋♀️ Vera
Love your videos. Photos on there way.
👍🙏🙋♀️ Vera
Question: It's possible to use "descent assistance" if go backwards?
Sometime when you crawling on some hill, wet one, and you was not able to reach the top and you need to make bottom safely for new attempt
Yes, it actually works in reverse. I think we covered this in this video a year later. th-cam.com/video/Y6yEq9oETh8/w-d-xo.html
Christian
I believe brake fluid is hygroscopic, so any opened container should have a use by date. I used a syringe and tubing to extract as much as possible of the old brake fluid on my P38, still need to do a proper bleed at each wheel.
To tell you the truth, we knew that too. But we were so caught up in the workflow and filming and just getting done, that we did not take a moment and think that situation through. I think it was Christmas Eve when we filled the brake fluid. I hope we learned something 😂👍🙋♀️ Vera
Again Chris, Kristen and Vera, I hope I get that right, I Apologise.
Always Awsome, I did my brake sensor the other day, Yes I have a Mate, but without YOU, I would not even attempt.
I still need those Rails as Vera Repiled 🤔😕 and I would love a Sticker and would Pay as well as P&P. Keep it up Both, You are a great and Loving Team...it's why we love disco. But what a Team 😊
You just have to send me an email with your adress, no cost at all. And I finally found the link where we got the rails from Airlineschiene, schwarz, halbrund, gebohrt 2 Meter | Zurrschienen | Zubehör | Fahrzeugtechnik | Oryxsolutions 👍🙋♀️ Vera
That was fun. Cheers.... 👍
what scan tool would you recommend for a L R discovery 4 HSE
We use this one amzn.to/3qARF66 for our LR3 and LR4. We think it has everything one needs and can definitely recommend it. However, icarsoft has now two upgraded version you might want to check out on their web page www.icarsoft.eu/LandRover-Diagnostic-Tools Just make sure you get one just for Land Rover / Jaguar. Not a universal one. 🙋♀️ Vera
Get a j2534 interface and download a cracked version of sdd is a good place to start.!
Nice video, I live in UAE have a D3 2008, I think your vehicle have problem more often may be this is due to moister weather of UK
Maybe you are right, here in Germany it's also pretty wet during the Winter time 👍🙋♀️ Vera
I wonder if this is the main reason for the 3 amigos here in the US - nobody likes to flush their brake systems out completely. We do it like you did - at the individual wheel, not knowing that there are more places for the old fluid to hide and ruin the system.
Your Disco really does like giving you content to work upon :) Not sure what you're symptoms were, but Christmas tree on the dash, suspension lowering, no speedo, can also be caused by (partially) burned brake lights... Cheers!
😂👍 You know, sometimes the fuel gauge just drops down to empty. Maybe we should tackle that problem for one of the next videos. Our Disco has many suprises for you guys in stock 😂👍🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_ChristianI've read about issue before. I'm happy I don't do TH-cam, as my car hasn't given me any issues for the past 10.000km+, except for the tailgate struts failing.
@@Vera_and_Christian In the end, it's good that our cars do what we expect of them. Mine does work hard, frequently in remote areas with no cell coverage and I am alone. Yours can drive on the autobahn even in access mode, as Christian said in this video, so the occasional issue that generates content for your channel is probably welcomed :) Take care!
@@AlexStrugariu 😃 well said; got your adress and will send you a sticker 👍🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Thank you very much! Appreciate it. All the best!
We just finished watching Blade Runner 2049 before this... I think Ridley Scott is going to be calling you guys any day now for some epic dystopian family friendly B-roll to insert in his next LR commercial. 😬Seriously though - so frustrating (I was thinking the same thing at that same moment) but very edutaining, as ever. Cool sticker too 🤙🍻🙏
😃 🙏👍I'll send you one if you mail me your adress🙋♀️ Vera
Hi 👋🏻 Love that you Germans like Land rovers 😂 Cheers for an entertaining video 😎🏴
Another great video my discovery tends to fix it self lol. Still got to do egr valves but missis had me working on her car disc pads and front wheel bearing lol if I take battery of will it mess up car ie radio codes or will it be fine
Yes the wifes car is of course more important 👍👌. Unfortunately, we did the egr Valves first thing when we got the car, even before the oilpump so before we made videos. When you remove the battery on our Disco, nothing happens. On my Freelander, I need to enter the code. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian i guess ill do it and see lol fingers crossed
Love the stickers.
Hi Christian, a question, what are the schematics and plans you are using in this repair? I only have the Haynes manual and you are probably aware these are only a good guide but not truly comprehensive. the yellow folder you have contains very good detailed information that my wife and I saw!
I said last time I have a D3 kitted out for overlanding (painted in Camo) but currently I took the lockdowns as a chance to do a big refurbishment, Body off two new turbos, straight through de cat pipe, new oil pump (snapped bolt as doing it! ) full timing belt kits, fit new wiring loom to electric brake unit oh and while I'm at it rub the chassis down and give it a good anti corrosion treatment, All the best Phil and Louise
Look here, www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=5082 😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Brilliant thankyou Christian, Regards Phil
@@Vera_and_Christian Just noticed this is from Duckworths LR, they are 7 miles from my location, I know a few guys there or have worked there, good dealer but like you said my god I cant use them as a regular owner, parts sometime not to costly but over 100 Euros an hour labour rate, so like you I do most of the work of have ex landrover guy who can do work for me at a better rate! lol
@@Vera_and_Christian Cheers Vera.. very helpful, Phil and Louise 👌👍😃
@@philadams92 You are right, I even had to pay 25 € at our Land Rover shop for them to even talk to me in person. That was nine years ago, god knows what they charge now. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
Perfektes Auto für TH-camr. Es gibt immer war zu tun 😂
🙄😂👍🙋♀️ Vera
Hi Christian im having an issue thats similar. I have ABS, BRAKE and trans fault while lowering suspension. It is intermittent. Parking Overnight, front sits about 3/4 inch lower than rear. Can a bad valve block cause these lights? Thank you!
Great videos btw! Really enjoy it !
Hello Kushan, our car is also sacking about 3/4 inch every night. That is normal for us. But you need to have a diagnostic tool hooked up to your car, like the icarsoft OBDii for Land Rover. Only when you have a fault code presented to you, can you analyze the problem. Everything else is just a wild guessing game. 🙋♀️ Vera
Ok well done you fixed it but how do we get one or two of your sticks 😁🇬🇧👍
You send me email with your adress and I'll send you a sticker, that's how 😃👍 At no cost to you 🙋♀️ Vera
just love you guys
you can just use the hill descent control to trigger the ABS.
You're right, have you watched our video "15 things you may not know about your LR3" th-cam.com/video/cQ0zStW7tW8/w-d-xo.html It's I think the last topic covered 👍🙋♀️ Vera
I think we need to call social services. They are clearly holding someone hostage in that garage.
😂👍🙋♀️ Vera
Hi to you both for another great video
I can share your pain with the DSC fault I have just replaced the rubber bushes in my front lower wishbones then the DSC fault plagued me cleaned the ABS sensors and replaced one which had a bit of noise, reset the steering angle sensor all to no avail.
However after a drive and the four reset of the steering angle sensor the faults have not returned (so far) I suspect that the DSC signal from the steering angle sensor is very critical and extremely sensitive
Did you say you had the GAP iiD tool that is what I use (although I also have the IDS tool also) the GAP tool is very good and you can also edit the CCF file with ease
Regards and good luck
We use the icarsoft OBDii tool, the GAP tool is just too expensive for that I can only use it on one VIN Number. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
I have been following your episodes for a time and I now I have a problem my mechanics cant resolve. The problem is, while driving after some minutes there is a message " suspension fault" slow dawn and the vehicle will lower, ABS signal DSC not working and cruise control not working. Last year I bought X Lifter kit and I love being control of how high the car is, I am using it for off road driving in Iceland and in the snow in winter time. I have 17 inc wheels so I have more rubber and softer driving on gravel roads and deflated in the snow. One of the mechanics after going through the computer test that the switch on the brake pedal was known to brake, I changed that but still the same problem he also mentioned that the wire in the left threshold was once known to brake once. Something to with the brakes.
Have you had any experience with a problem like that. By the way the light bulb for the left braking light is broken.
My car is 2007 LR3 with 270,000 km. The engine was rebuilt 3 years ago broken Block and a new converter for the transmission 2 years ago. That was my own fault, trying to pull my 38 foot yacht between places.
If you have experienced any thing like this I would love to know about that.
Greetings fro Ísland.
Egill Kolbeinsson DDS
Hafnarfjörður Iceland email egill@navi.is
This can only be reolved by reading the fault codes. Should be a simple job and it happens all the time. Christian
Hi Cristian, can we replace the faulty inbuilt air compressor with the portable air compressor, replacing a compressor cost 500$ approx where as a good quality portable air portable compressor will cost less than 100$
You heard it first:: "Discovery is self-healing system." Maybe the snapped crank-shafts will fix themselves too if you wait long enough...
Hello Christian and Vera, I have issue with my LR3 during these cold days....my I ask you for a consultation please?
temperatures bellow 1-2°C - engine starts fine, rides fine. After about one to three minutes yellow parking brake light starts blinking together with navi screen blinking and restarting, also on interior light I can see periodical voltage drops (light dimming), all with frequency about 2-4Hz. After another 10-30seconds it stabilizes itself, navi works, parking brake symbol is off. usually during next minute suspension light goes orange.
Turning car off an on again (I am working as software supporter:-) ) all repeats it self. If temperature is above 5°C, then this is not happening.
When using ODBII while engine still running after this issue, list of error codes contains this:
U0132, C1A00, U0132, U0159, U0122, B1A96, B1D79, B1B70, B1C62, C1A20
My guess is that there is rusted ground or badly performing relay, but cannot find any common point for Parking brake and Navis screen.
I also tried to renew the connector of ABS module because of CAN bus terminator there, but no change. Accumulator changed couple day before.
Do not have any guess, while you may be "was already there"?
Thank you for any idea.
You have to decode the faults. We have several videos how to diagnose the dsc and air suspension. Ignor the u faults as we said in many videos. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian Thank you.
I moved a little bit forward now.
I detected that charging voltage was kind of oscilating unprectively between 14 - 16+V, so I was happy about the "aha, that is it", but when I mounted new alternator it stays stable, but higher that expected. Engine ON - on battery I can measure 15,3V stable, in ODB2 tool I can see 14,9V (0,4V drop), also stable.
How does your voltage looks on battery and on diagnostic tool on Vera's car while running? Is there also any difference? 😲
Christian what is the manual you are using to service the Discovery? Is it a Haynes manual? If it is I would recommend you spend whatever it takes to buy the genuine Land Rover manual, I still have mine for my Discovery 2 even though I no longer have the car. It wasn't cheap being just around £70 but it was still worth it. I had a diagnostic tool too and that I used to completely automatically bleed the braking system using the ABS pump itself to do the pumping of the brake fluid, and I worked a treat. You should Never, Never use old brake fluid under any circumstances. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, that being it absorbs water from the atmosphere and will cause brake fade when you need good brakes most as in an emergency stop. The brakes get hot and boil the water into steam which can be compressed thus loosing pressure in the lines and on the brake calipers when you are trying to stop in an emergency. So old fluid is a no no!
👍We have both, Haynes and Land Rover manual. 🙋♀️ Vera
I love my LR3 but I am looking at buying an LR4 to replace it.
Of course, we would do the same, but only when our LR 3 is becoming to costly to fix, even for us. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
Very funny, lovely people.
You need to get a brake fluid moisture pen , it tells you the condition of the fluid . Cheep investment !!!!
I use TRW Brake fluid It the only one that does not have moisture in it before you start the bleeding job !!!
Just ordered one, thanks for the recomendation 👍🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian Hi Vera when it’s not in use take the battery out.The first one I bought didn’t last ,the second one has been fine because the battery removal,I hope this helps .
Take care , Keep safe
Always thought DSC stood for driver stupidity control.
Hello Sir & Madam, I've been following your videos for sometime, ever since i was planning to buy a Disco 3, now that I have bought a 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 GS just days ago, I seek your valuable assistance as the scanner tool as suggested by you is on it's way from US & sadly the previous owner lost the owner's manual. The vehicle shows no faults at system check, there are not fault signs after ignition, The suspension works fine at all the levels, the terrain response gets selected in all modes but while driving the vehicle mostly after 40 kmph ( sometimes it activates at 60~75 kmph ) the DSC light comes up followed by Suspension fault light, stating 'ENGINE SYSTEM FAULT' "SUSPENSION LOWERED" & the vehicle doesn't accelerate any further, I've checked with a regular ODB II tool, there are no engine codes. The system goes normal after switching off the vehicle, the problem persist even after deactivating the "DSC". Kindly suggest me how should I approach, Thank you in advance for LR owners make them feel LR more "reliable"
I cannot respond in a video thread to such a complex problem. Contact us via Patreon please. Christian
a thought - if you hd gotten a bigger hammer maybe the banging would stop quicker b/c the work would go quicker..
😅👍Maybe, but if you mind the banging, you should watch Toyota videos. They are absolutely quiet. We are so proud of our Son working in his workshop. I'd rather not film videos than stop my son from working.🙋♀️Vera
6:25 answer the front door already!
have you any stickers left
👍 mail me your adress and I'll send you one 🙋♀️ Vera
Hey it will be a new car by the time you have finished..
How can I buy an LR TIME sticker for my LR3 please guys
Send me an email please🙏you will find it on the „about“ page🙋♀️
I would love a sticker for my 1992 range rover classic please
👍 Send me an email with your adress please 🙋♀️ Vera
Sorry forgot to say the iiD tool does not do the ABS bleed routine but the IDS does
Regards
kids with power hammers lol what can you do lol
LAND ROVER, making mechanics from owners for 70 years Ja, genau
You can always tell Land Rover owners by their hands......Black.
Es wäre schön wenn es mal videos von euch auf deutsch gibt dann wäre es interessanter und wir könnten daran auch teil haben
Ja das würden wir auch liebendgern machen, aber leider haben wir nur 7% der Zuschauer aus dem Deutschsprachigen Raum. Allerdings wenn du spezielle Fragen oder Anregungen hast, sind gerne bereit zu helfen, soweit es uns möglich ist natürlich. Unsere Email findest du unter der Kanalinfo. Viele Grüße Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian gut 😄ich werd bestimmt die ein oder andere frage mal haben baue mir grade ein Discovery 3 neu auf. Erstmal technisch. Angefangen hat das mit dem Land Rover Fieber mit dem Freelander 2 😂mit dem ich nach Tunesien in die Wüste reiste. Seit ein paar Tagen hat bei mir ein Discovery 3 ein neues Zuhause gefunden.Freel Ander 2 bleibt trotzdem. Leider ohne Service Nachweise. Jetzt versuche ich alles mögliche über mein Discovery rauszufinden der jenige der mir dem Wagen verkauft hat; hat keine Ahnung von dem Auto gehabt und sich nicht dafür interessiet er brauchte dem nur kurz um hänger zu ziehen. Ich hoffe ich finde mal den vorbesitzer denn es macht mir den Eindruck das der sich Zeit für den Wagen genommen verbaut wurde zusätzlichen untefahrschutz. Und spuren von nen dachträger sind auch zu erkennen im Fahrzeug selbst hab ich das Werkzeug gefunden um Luft aus den Reifen zu lassen. Gehe davon aus das der Wagen mal für offroad reisen genutzt wurde. Ich habe eine land rover Werkstatt gefunden die haben gesagt der Wagen war oft bei denen aber dürfen mir nicht sagen wann was gemacht wurde =(Datenschutz. Für nen Auto?
@@saharaoffroadadventure6996 Super, ich hab ja auch einen Freelander. Das erste was wir gemacht haben ist die Ölpumpenabdeckung gewechselt. Die bricht gerne und dann hast du einen Totalschaden am Motor. Vielleicht ist das bei dir ja schon gemacht worden. Schau mal auf diesem Bild nach th-cam.com/channels/_WI2JddpJlbubwii_jIYWQ.htmlcommunity? Leider war diese Reparatur vor unserer TH-cam Zeit :lb=Ugwzc1jSqYJkFORcFtF4AaABCQ Wir haben auch ein Video über das icarsoft OBDii tool gemacht und wie du erkennen kannst wie lange das Auto in welchem Offroad modus verbracht hat. Das obdii tool wirst du dir ja eher kaufen wie das GAP Diagnostic tool da du ja noch einen Freelander hast. th-cam.com/video/w7GSOlZF8VM/w-d-xo.html Ich wünsche dir viel Freude an deinem Discovery, weist du die Farbe von deinem Disco? 🙋♀️ Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian davon habe ich gehört mit der ölpumpe. Ich hoffe es ist gemacht er ist schon was an km gelaufen denke das hätte das pumpenrad nicht überlebt mit der Laufleistung es könnte vielleicht gemacht sein 😄dunkel blau ist ein HSE mit hellen leder
@@Vera_and_Christian woher kommt ihr eigentlich? 😄Ich bin in Baden-Württemberg
Get shut of it rover are okay when new old ones are a money pit the same unit goes on BMW also did you try putting your rover on a diagnostic and take code off rovers are good for electrical problems dont ask Waldo he is only learning himself
Oh we love our Diagnostic tool, can't live without it 😃😉👍🙋♀️ Vera
Landrover are just rubbish. The electronic parking brake, made out of plastic,, absolutely disgusting.. A 3 year old with lego could have built something better.... Total rubbish.
Germans liking McDonalds & Land Rover....🙄
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