Another useless comparison, whatever truck you choose to buy it is always a compromise. In my personal opinion Toyota is the only brand that tries to stay as old school as possible and that's something that people like myself appreciate a lot when on the trails
I am riding in a new Tundra CrewMax that belongs to a close friend and business partner every day. It is a very nice vehicle, but it is not nearly as well finished or sophisticated inside or out as the new 8 speed Ram that belongs to the guy who works for him. The ride quality and cabin comfort in that Ram is out of this world.
Real world.... I owned a 2001 dodge ram diesel. went through 3 transmissions by 125,000 miles. 4 lift pumps and 4 injection pumps. brake jobs every 35,000 miles, countless other minor problems. finally got rid of that POS and got a 2007 Tundra SR5 TRD for $31,000.. 121,000 miles NOTHING but oil changes and one set of brakes at 90,000.. Traded it for a 2013 Tundra. SR5/TRD for $32,500... 76,000 miles. oil changes and one set of tires... That's your "real world"
+guy proulx, sure do. a 2016 pile. I just took a pic of the frame. year 16..made in Mexico stamp. can't load the damn picture on here. oh who cares! I got the truck for free. that's the only reason I have it.
While I agree with the results, if you had to drop 50k of your own money on one of these trucks and maintain it for 5+ years, which would you buy? I chose the Tundra. Kudos to all the manufacturers on making the once humble pickup into such incredible machines the past decade.
which truck is built better? underbody cladding? The components on the Tundra are way more heavy duty. Toyota has more research and experience with offroad. The Rebel is like a pair of fake tits....looks good but not genuine.
Actually, they have pretty equivalent experience off-road. There is the Ram Power Wagon and Ram does have Jeep to fall back on. Mopar also offers the Runner modification that is competitive verse the Raptor.
It's bad comparison with 20 years proven on the road Toyota vs. don't know what tomorrow Ram. All dodge disappointed me and the brand itself has disappointed me with unreliable costly repairs and higher cost of ownership only good for a rental car, yet more expensive than american made tundra? who's going to buy a truck that's not helping anyone other than owner who's so not patriot? Buy tundra and you are buying american.
Kevin, the Runner is in a different class, its 90% competition ready, the Raptor is a soccer mom truck in comparison. I would chose the Raptor but to compete with the Runner out in the desert it would need a complete suspension rebuild.
Have they never heard of the Power Wagon? Lockers front and rear from standard, disconnecting sway bar, winch, etc. That's a real offroad truck from the factory. The Rebel and TRD are just package trucks with no extensive changes.
Jake Rheault take a look at this www.autoblog.com/2012/05/30/ram-pickup-leads-group-of-most-dangerous-cars-in-america/ with a reputation like this it's enough to keep me away from a potential death trap lol
oh you're so original. every idiot fanboy of a specific truck makes an acronym of all other trucks. it's pathetic and juvenille. most trucks today are within 1% of each other in terms of reliability. but keep spreading your fanboy legs and taking it up the rear for "brand loyalty"
Toyota "dropped the ball" with tire selection?! There are about 6 of these in o my area and I've only seen one ever come back with trail dust on it- I'd say Toyota knows their customers well.
Dodge is the worst car builder in the world. I've owned em all. The dealer had the truck more than I did. 430,000 kilometers on Tundra only oil changes and brakes
I've had an 07 charger for 8 years & not one single problem with that car! I'm on my second charger & still love it. Now thinking about a Ram, better than ford or Chevy!!
TRD Tundra is a older truck and its STILL giving new trucks a serious fight even still doing better in some places. That 5.7 sounds badass too. TRD FTW.
If you are off-roading neither of these vehicles will offer good reliability. Rocks tend to hurt reliability ratings. If you are not off-roading, both will be much more reliable than other vehicles. It just tends to happen when you overbuild components to deal with things like rocks. The Tundra is a lot simpler so it will be more reliable just from that stand point. The 8-speed and air suspension will be weak points in the Ram. Aside from that, both should be more reliable compared to other modern vehicles.
Kevin Smith I agree with you in a lot of ways, but it is obvious that TOYOTA is a much more reliable car brand than any CHRYSLER brand as RAM, just look at customer reports magazine and you will confirm my point
Consumer reports uses some flawed metrics in determining reliability. They use the 90 days reliability test as if it were a metric in determining long-term reliability. This will catch things that are primarily quality control issues that affect the car as soon as they roll off the line. All car companies have them and the percentage of vehicles with these issues is minuscule. Having slightly more than minuscule defect rate in the first 90 days is the difference between the most reliable and least reliable. It's important to separate what fails and what doesn't. The 8-speed while less reliable than the 6-speed isn't that bad compared to CVTs or 9-speeds. 5.7L naturally aspirated V8s are more reliable than turbo charged 2.0L i4. It's also important to realize why Chrysler tends to be less reliable. Too many unique parts that are not properly quality controlled or poorly sourced. Most of the work is done by robots who will get things precisely lined up within tenths of a mm every single time. So during assembly there should be a very small percentage of defects related to improperly maintained equipment. This leaves the sourced parts as the underlying issue.
Toyota had decades of reputation for being tough and reliable that's why they can sell millions. American brand cars had decades of reputation for being lousy and pathetic.
Blitz4000 lmao you fan boy, thats why your tundra junk is the least selling truck of full size trucks, gm twins, ram, and ford all outsell your sad pile of shit and sorry excuse for a truck just saying
If I needed a truck to drive through the Canyonlands every day (and for some reason the Raptor was off the table) I'd take the Tundra. With some better tires- which would run a grand a set, perhaps- it's still cheaper than the Rebel. And I have no doubt the Tundra would last longer. A lot longer. But, if I were a normal person doing normal people things, and maybe wanted to tow some stuff, and hit the White Rim a couple times a year, I would take the Rebel. So really, it depends how much offroading you have planned. The Ram is basically the better looking, American built truck with an excellent party piece. The TRD is the inheritor of actual racing tech, and built by Toyota, and the reliability of Toyota trucks needs no introduction. It's charisma vs competence.
My 2016 Tundra has a sticker on the windshield that says "Built in San Antonio, Tx", about 250-300 miles NW of my house, seems like an American truck to me ??? And it came with BFG AT's, which is fine with me.
InsomniacRyan Don't be so sure... I've had my Ram in both those areas and it's got 300,000 miles on it and still going strong! I liked my Toyota pickup too, but it had it's issues. And it's issues WERE ALWAYS more expensive to fix than my Ram or my Chevy.
Better reviews than a lot of money bought biased magazines out there. I feel like the TRD Had the bare essentials when it came to pricing. $46k? That's nearly impossible to find inTexas. The reason why the Rebel was more was due to the extra features like the RAMBOX system, that adds $1200 to the price
Be nice to compare these two with the new Titan halfton pro-4x when it comes out. Would be a nice comparison. Maybe get the Chev Z71 and the Ford Fx4 models all in one video. Thanks & cheers.
No because the TuRD will need a frame by then, and drivetrains last forever these days, longer than most people will want to keep a vehicle, but whatever makes you feel better about your choice.
i bought a ram back in 2006 still running strong very little repairs i replaced wheel Bairings idler pully bairings and some rust repair i do live in the northeast Chrysler makes great cars
Coming from a few fords with center console shifters to my 14 ram outdoorsman I do miss the shifter. I love the open so sole though. The Ram would be best complimented with some paddle shifters and a true manual shift mode. The tiny buttons on the Rams steering wheel are suited for gear lock out and do offer a true manual shift mode like Ford, GM and Toyota. The buttons on steering wheel are also so tiny and placed so terribly that unless the truck is driving straight on a smooth run you would need luck to be able to use them.
Exactly what I thought as well, I own a tundra and have driven this particular ram on and off road. By far I would choose the tundra, plus the ram will most likely break down in a year or two and have close to no resale value in five years.
Great vid...I luv the ZF tranny & the knob! If you seriously think about it how often are you interfacing with the transmission... so I just started my truck I'm in park I will turn the dial to D, I'm good to go. I'm where I want to be a I put it in P and I turn it off. ZF torqueflite transmission, computer and shift points are awesome!
I know they say that Toyota has very small Tundra sales compared to the Big 3 trucks. I'm a contractor in So Cal and I swear I see way more Tundras than any other truck.
I have owned both trucks....... The Tundra is much better..... I paid 47k for a loaded Rebel and 52k for the Tundra Pro.... Tundra has a 20% better resell factor... Handle and performs much better
I always have driven Chevy Trucks basically because my dad did I recently purchased a 2014 RAM eco diesel-powered truck and there is no comparison to the Chevys I've had the RAM is far superior in every regard milage,power,quality, quiet ride,just drive one and see
I have 4 Toyota's in the driveway and have recently owned a Ram 1500 Lariat with the Hemi. If we are talking all-around capability and fun factor ESPECIALLY off-road, I would take the Rebel, but not with the expectation of keeping it forever. Also, what these guys didn't mention are the "always available" Fiat-Chrysler rebates available on Ram trucks...I got $11k off my last Ram and you usually just get a better deal on them overall.
What added technology does the Rebel have? He even says, airbags and "it looks like..." WTH?? So, it has more buttons to confuse and break? He didn't quantify what "more technology" is. It feels sportier? OK, I'll bite; I sat in a Ram Rebel and the seat is not near as comfortable as my 2 Tundras. As for space; no comparison; the Tundra wins hands down. I like the Rebel's looks guys but, let's give rational and objective views.
These guys were obviously giddy for the Rebel. The one guy even gives the Rebel points for going slower off-road... The only functional difference is the load leveling when towing, but you don't really buy either of these trucks to tow all the time. Maybe just put some air springs and better tires on the Tundra, spend the other $5,000 on a boat... th-cam.com/video/2h0Xu3rHcP8/w-d-xo.html
I like the gear shifter on the ram. It frees up so much room plus it looks cool and is solid aluminum. Not a fan of Toyota maybe if we were still in the 1980s but they feel very budget economy styling inside and out. I've owned several mopae cars trucks and SUVS. WHILE DODGE CUTS CORNER ON QUALITY CONTROL ITS THE BEST BANG FOR BUCK OUT THERE.
0:50 “For 2016 there’s really only two trucks available” In this bracket? Off-road-ready trucks straight from the factory, with warrantees? That’s not true. Almost every brand offered them, not the least of which is Ford.
I am curious I used to see Raptors all the time, and now never. I know they are not in production anymore, but you would think you would still see some of the older ones around. Did they just not hold up or hidden away somewhere?
Aviator Guy I can. You are the one saying it is still in production. I said it wasn't. 2015 and 2016. That is my point. I know 2017 it coming out. Hopefully you can change oil better than you know production runs.
I’m looking into these since my Jeep is constantly in the shop with 33k miles. I’m also looking at the raptor but I don’t think I can justify a $1,200 monthly payment
Haven't read the comments yet but I know it's going to be like it always is. Dodge owners are going to dis Tundra and Tundra owners are going to dis the Ram.
I stood there and watched the guy sign, the Lancaster CA sierra toyota, does not mark up the pros, they get so few, they want them out the door. I paid 41,000 out the door for my 2016 tundra sr5 TRD 4x4 5.7 liter, linex bed off road crewmax loaded, through authority auto brokers. that incl. all taxes, fees licence and delivered 150 miles to my office. authority got it down to 37000, before fees, you guys are paying way to much, use a broker, don't step foot into dealership, except to test drive. any one who buys directly thru dealer gets bent over. I've bought three cars this year through them, saved thousands, and no jerk off dealership theater.
I like the Ram its a beautiful truck but i decided to go with the Toyota Tundra double cab Trd Pro myself i feel it will last longer with less problem's. I feel the Ram air suspension and electrical will eventually fall its more of a show truck i plan on having this truck for many years but if i could get a new truck every 2-3 years i might have went with the Ram. I paid $44+k out the door. NY
I think you and other reviewers miss the point. Trivial stuff like usable space in the center console due to shifter placement is meaningless. Things like payload matter and it matters more than you think and none of you mention it. The may have a lot of sophisticated things in it, but by the time you add on the weight of the limited slip differential, the air suspension and the other options that come with it and fill it with gas, the Rebel's curb weight is such that the payload is down to 975 lbs. As a practical matter, what that means is you and four of your buddies, can go on an offloading adventure, but don't plan on staying overnight or having a tailgate party because you can't take anything with you. Five 175 lb guys tip the scales at 875 lbs. 100 lbs doesn't allow for much gear and if they guys are heavier forget it. That air suspension may nice and responsible for the Ram's ride, but it weighs an awful lot. That's why I got away from Jeep Wranglers and back into 4wd pickups. You pay damn near $40 grand for a Rubicon that can go anywhere, but you can't take anything with you. Payload only 850lbs less a tank of gas about 750. 4 adults and your done. No camping gear, no coolers loaded with drinks and ice nothing.
why can't they get the same tires at least for all trucks. I hate that when they tell the specs. the trucks are running a diff tire.....its always the case. and it doesn't make sense to me.
raptor is that great honeslty ram almost smashed it with a a ram runner lmao and the rebel about and the only that cant be beaten and always dominates is the power wagon. here id agree the ram rebel is the best judgement on the trucks specs conclude everytbing such as tundra having a big rear diff set up at 4.30 ratio to where ram has it at 3.92 ratio lol so if you were to change the ram ratio to 4.10 or something it yet be more powerful than tundra and alot faster than quick lol. the toyota and the ram are both great looking badass trucks to be honest id drive both if i had both they just seem to be that proven tough kind of pickup truck to take to places and people lokking at your truck lol or go offroading whenever you feel like it without worrying youll get stuck lol. but yes the ram is best in this fact. but like I said both trucks are badass. though it is disappointing that the ram did shift know would be awesome like how tundra had theirs done then the ram would feel like a truck like it suppose to be lol. and for some guy saying the ram woukd be dead on the road like ford lol your funny lol theres a reason why ford is common with that lol its ford only dotn include ram to it lol their tough as hell they go as far as a toyota can but toyota can go further lol. except a ford lol just dont mention about it lol. but like again third time i repeat myself both trucks are badass
Apparently it looks like tgese two guys are totally biased. Even from this video i can easily say Tundra has better interior, its more elegant than what it looks in Ram. Plus the over all body Tundra is a clear winner, it looks more powerful from outside like a real beast.
is this a fair match? they say a little more, the rebel is 10,000 dollars more. if you spent the extra 10,000 on the tundra, it would have whooped the rebels ass. the ram has the old look of the dodge trucks, it's out dated, they need a new look, when they first came out with the dodge look, everyone thought they looked like little tractor trailers truck. for the money, the toyota run circles around the ram. save ten grand, put in a air system, and take a vacation to for a month.
I have both trucks, The 15 trd has 36k miles on it, the truck is trash, I have 30k on my ram and work it harder in the hills, and on the road, id seriously never look at the TRD pro over my Rebel.
The tundra looks 10x better than that Rebel.. Looks like Dodge went to Auto Zone for their styling.. IMO.. A good set rims and tires and that tundra would look amazing.. My '13 Rock Warrior just turned over 75k miles.. and this truck looks tempting, but Im still waiting to see when, or if, they get a new drivetrain..
i would like to see these trucks doing a lot of off road stuff. not talking about them doing off road stuff.
dodge boys too scared
Another useless comparison, whatever truck you choose to buy it is always a compromise. In my personal opinion Toyota is the only brand that tries to stay as old school as possible and that's something that people like myself appreciate a lot when on the trails
Toyota goes for reliability even if it means old school.
+Harvey Millar that's why I prefer Toyota trucks over other brands.
Smart choice
Amen!!!!!
I am riding in a new Tundra CrewMax that belongs to a close friend and business partner every day. It is a very nice vehicle, but it is not nearly as well finished or sophisticated inside or out as the new 8 speed Ram that belongs to the guy who works for him. The ride quality and cabin comfort in that Ram is out of this world.
Real world.... I owned a 2001 dodge ram diesel. went through 3 transmissions by 125,000 miles. 4 lift pumps and 4 injection pumps. brake jobs every 35,000 miles, countless other minor problems. finally got rid of that POS and got a 2007 Tundra SR5 TRD for $31,000.. 121,000 miles NOTHING but oil changes and one set of brakes at 90,000.. Traded it for a 2013 Tundra. SR5/TRD for $32,500... 76,000 miles. oil changes and one set of tires... That's your "real world"
Really comprehensive review guys - true off-road, towing, acceleration, interiors, suspension on and off road. Nicely done!
Which one is REALLY made in America THE TUNDRA!!!
Assembled*
no its not. the stamp on my frame says it was manufactured in Mexico. that's not American.
do you have a Tundra?
+guy proulx, sure do. a 2016 pile. I just took a pic of the frame. year 16..made in Mexico stamp. can't load the damn picture on here. oh who cares! I got the truck for free. that's the only reason I have it.
Nate K the Tundra has more American made parts in it than GM, Chevy or Dodge
Both trucks are badass. As for reliability, I've had nothing but good experiences with both Chrysler and Toyota.
Wonder which one will last longer... plastic dial made by Dodge or a traditional shifter made by Toyota...
tyltong123 dial shifter
Nether both will go to shit it all varies how you maintain them!
While I agree with the results, if you had to drop 50k of your own money on one of these trucks and maintain it for 5+ years, which would you buy? I chose the Tundra. Kudos to all the manufacturers on making the once humble pickup into such incredible machines the past decade.
Tundras drink gas like I drink pop they get horrible gas mileage
You're not getting a new tundra for 50k.
@@jeffbennett8093 5 years ago when I posted the original comment you could. Not anymore though that’s for sure.
Personally I'd choose that 80 series on the flatbed trailer over both trucks, but nice comparison nonetheless.
Lol sadly why is the new car towing the old car..: just goes to show
You guys need to upload more often😉👍🏼
I'd take the Tundra all day every day.
HELL YEAH! 2012 T-Force!
me to
endocry
Ur an idiot
me too... I had 5 dodges and all their transmissions seem to have gone awry early in their lives...
seinundzeiten liar
I never thought I'd see a comparison based on feelings instead of fact and data.
The Dodge Ram 2500 Power Wagon was on the scene as an off road factory 4x4 well before the Raptor. FYI
More videos plz! I loved this one.👍👍
That Land Cruiser you are towing is sweet!!! That's the winner. ;-)
Nigel Naughton You read my mind :))
which truck is built better? underbody cladding? The components on the Tundra are way more heavy duty. Toyota has more research and experience with offroad. The Rebel is like a pair of fake tits....looks good but not genuine.
Actually, they have pretty equivalent experience off-road. There is the Ram Power Wagon and Ram does have Jeep to fall back on. Mopar also offers the Runner modification that is competitive verse the Raptor.
Thank you for the information
It's bad comparison with 20 years proven on the road Toyota vs. don't know what tomorrow Ram. All dodge disappointed me and the brand itself has disappointed me with unreliable costly repairs and higher cost of ownership only good for a rental car, yet more expensive than american made tundra? who's going to buy a truck that's not helping anyone other than owner who's so not patriot? Buy tundra and you are buying american.
Kevin, the Runner is in a different class, its 90% competition ready, the Raptor is a soccer mom truck in comparison. I would chose the Raptor but to compete with the Runner out in the desert it would need a complete suspension rebuild.
You should look at the frame on both trucks. The Ram has a much stronger frame.
Have they never heard of the Power Wagon? Lockers front and rear from standard, disconnecting sway bar, winch, etc. That's a real offroad truck from the factory. The Rebel and TRD are just package trucks with no extensive changes.
the Ram is the truck to get. 4:30 gears on a half ton ?! Shitty tires. Ram good tires air suspension great uconnect system. 8 speed transmission
Ram = Request A Mechanic
So tell me what's wrong with the BFG AT's that came on my Tundra please ?
Jake Rheault take a look at this
www.autoblog.com/2012/05/30/ram-pickup-leads-group-of-most-dangerous-cars-in-america/
with a reputation like this it's enough to keep me away from a potential death trap lol
So the tundra has 4.30 gears also.
oh you're so original. every idiot fanboy of a specific truck makes an acronym of all other trucks. it's pathetic and juvenille. most trucks today are within 1% of each other in terms of reliability. but keep spreading your fanboy legs and taking it up the rear for "brand loyalty"
I forgot to add I'm a new subscriber I like your channel...thank you!
Toyota "dropped the ball" with tire selection?! There are about 6 of these in o my area and I've only seen one ever come back with trail dust on it- I'd say Toyota knows their customers well.
POWERWAGON & RAPTOR
Dodge is the worst car builder in the world. I've owned em all.
The dealer had the truck more than I did. 430,000 kilometers on Tundra only oil changes and brakes
brakes...
dodge is a quality manufacturer.
RAM = Request A Mechanic
sturomain I've had 3 dodge/ Chrysler vehicles, and they've all been excellent.
I've had an 07 charger for 8 years & not one single problem with that car! I'm on my second charger & still love it. Now thinking about a Ram, better than ford or Chevy!!
This video gave me the impression that both presenters are dodge fan boys.
That ram logo on the tailgate of the Dodge is so obnoxious
its old-school, notice that other trucks are kinda doing that to
+Ian McDermitt doing it before dodge period
makes me want to rearrange it to ARM
it's not a dodge
Nope, it's a FIAT.
TRD Tundra is a older truck and its STILL giving new trucks a serious fight even still doing better in some places. That 5.7 sounds badass too.
TRD FTW.
its an older truck because toyota doesnt update their trucks lol
I agree, the platform is older yet it's still able to keep up, no other manufacturer could do that. I'd pick the toyota.
samus989 They dont need to. Testament to how long lasting their platforms are
TRD Pro came out in 2015. it does have the same old reliable engine but I would think co Sider the pro older...
Tundra is so ahead of its time it’s just waiting for everyone to catch up so it can be updated. Lol
Now that the video is over just think about reliability! Nothing more to say here I think that the intelligent ones will get my point
Yea we get it the Ram is more reliable.
If you are off-roading neither of these vehicles will offer good reliability. Rocks tend to hurt reliability ratings. If you are not off-roading, both will be much more reliable than other vehicles. It just tends to happen when you overbuild components to deal with things like rocks.
The Tundra is a lot simpler so it will be more reliable just from that stand point. The 8-speed and air suspension will be weak points in the Ram. Aside from that, both should be more reliable compared to other modern vehicles.
camaroman101 ooooh man cmon! its is a fucking Chrysler brand bro! it is the most unreliable car in the world maybe after the chinese brands hahaha
Kevin Smith I agree with you in a lot of ways, but it is obvious that TOYOTA is a much more reliable car brand than any CHRYSLER brand as RAM, just look at customer reports magazine and you will confirm my point
Consumer reports uses some flawed metrics in determining reliability. They use the 90 days reliability test as if it were a metric in determining long-term reliability. This will catch things that are primarily quality control issues that affect the car as soon as they roll off the line. All car companies have them and the percentage of vehicles with these issues is minuscule. Having slightly more than minuscule defect rate in the first 90 days is the difference between the most reliable and least reliable.
It's important to separate what fails and what doesn't. The 8-speed while less reliable than the 6-speed isn't that bad compared to CVTs or 9-speeds. 5.7L naturally aspirated V8s are more reliable than turbo charged 2.0L i4.
It's also important to realize why Chrysler tends to be less reliable. Too many unique parts that are not properly quality controlled or poorly sourced. Most of the work is done by robots who will get things precisely lined up within tenths of a mm every single time. So during assembly there should be a very small percentage of defects related to improperly maintained equipment. This leaves the sourced parts as the underlying issue.
Love Toyota's commitment to QDR on Tundra.
Great video!
Toyota had decades of reputation for being tough and reliable that's why they can sell millions. American brand cars had decades of reputation for being lousy and pathetic.
Blitz4000 I guess you haven't read about the new and last gen tundra with it's brake and transmission trouble.
Blitz4000 lmao you fan boy, thats why your tundra junk is the least selling truck of full size trucks, gm twins, ram, and ford all outsell your sad pile of shit and sorry excuse for a truck just saying
And all of that information is from the 80's - 90's. Toyota has been getting worse and American cars (especially GM) have gotten way better.
These dudes trying to say that a ram is more reliable than a tundra really makes me laugh, I can't remember the last time seeing a tundra broken down.
If I needed a truck to drive through the Canyonlands every day (and for some reason the Raptor was off the table) I'd take the Tundra. With some better tires- which would run a grand a set, perhaps- it's still cheaper than the Rebel. And I have no doubt the Tundra would last longer. A lot longer.
But, if I were a normal person doing normal people things, and maybe wanted to tow some stuff, and hit the White Rim a couple times a year, I would take the Rebel.
So really, it depends how much offroading you have planned. The Ram is basically the better looking, American built truck with an excellent party piece. The TRD is the inheritor of actual racing tech, and built by Toyota, and the reliability of Toyota trucks needs no introduction. It's charisma vs competence.
My 2016 Tundra has a sticker on the windshield that says "Built in San Antonio, Tx", about 250-300 miles NW of my house, seems like an American truck to me ??? And it came with BFG AT's, which is fine with me.
InsomniacRyan Don't be so sure...
I've had my Ram in both those areas and it's got 300,000 miles on it and still going strong!
I liked my Toyota pickup too, but it had it's issues. And it's issues WERE ALWAYS more expensive to fix than my Ram or my Chevy.
Better reviews than a lot of money bought biased magazines out there.
I feel like the TRD Had the bare essentials when it came to pricing. $46k? That's nearly impossible to find inTexas.
The reason why the Rebel was more was due to the extra features like the RAMBOX system, that adds $1200 to the price
after the guy on the left asked about the handling, how fast and loud his reply was when he said " the ram "
Umm, no. Air suspension in the desert? Is FCA trying to make it a Range Rover truck?
HAHAHAHA !
Did anyone notice at 0:26 the Ram front end skid plate looks tweaked.
Be nice to compare these two with the new Titan halfton pro-4x when it comes out. Would be a nice comparison. Maybe get the Chev Z71 and the Ford Fx4 models all in one video. Thanks & cheers.
You forgot to mention the RAM boxes. Those are a $1200.00 dollar option and they give you lockable storage outside of the cab of the truck.
In 10 years the tundra will probably still be going strong.....the ram probably will have fallen apart by then.
No because the TuRD will need a frame by then, and drivetrains last forever these days, longer than most people will want to keep a vehicle, but whatever makes you feel better about your choice.
Drive trains last forever?? Toyota maybe not Dodge.
all modern vehicles last forever now, and dodge has 150k mile warranty? Thats 50k more than toyota.
No vehicle lasts forever. Warranties have a mileage and date expiry which ever comes first. Toyota has a better resale value and will outlast a Dodge.
lol yep
i bought a ram back in 2006 still running strong very little repairs i replaced wheel Bairings idler pully bairings and some rust repair i do live in the northeast Chrysler makes great cars
Coming from a few fords with center console shifters to my 14 ram outdoorsman I do miss the shifter. I love the open so sole though. The Ram would be best complimented with some paddle shifters and a true manual shift mode. The tiny buttons on the Rams steering wheel are suited for gear lock out and do offer a true manual shift mode like Ford, GM and Toyota. The buttons on steering wheel are also so tiny and placed so terribly that unless the truck is driving straight on a smooth run you would need luck to be able to use them.
this is a dodge commercial guys
Exactly what I thought as well, I own a tundra and have driven this particular ram on and off road. By far I would choose the tundra, plus the ram will most likely break down in a year or two and have close to no resale value in five years.
+royalmac1011 i got you man, if i have a choice it will most def be the tundra by a mile
RAM = only option
I own a ram but will be buying a tundra. The resell value is so much higher
Ram = Request A Mechanic
guy proulx its people like why its putting American workers out of work
FCA took that baton that Dodge left them and finally built a. competitive vehicle...
Great vid...I luv the ZF tranny & the knob! If you seriously think about it how often are you interfacing with the transmission... so I just started my truck I'm in park I will turn the dial to D, I'm good to go. I'm where I want to be a I put it in P and I turn it off. ZF torqueflite transmission, computer and shift points are awesome!
How wide is the rebel bed inside with the ram boxes at the narrowest point?
Max S the ram boxes don’t affect the width of the bed. If you got the Ram Cargo Management System that will take away from the width
All I will say is if I am to get married, I'd rather it be a long and stable marriage as opposed to a costly affair which ends after 5 years.
Funny you say that...... If you're really curious I'll explain later, after it's over on the 20th in Brazoria, TX.
I hope it goes well! The weather is probably better than here in DE.
I know they say that Toyota has very small Tundra sales compared to the Big 3 trucks. I'm a contractor in So Cal and I swear I see way more Tundras than any other truck.
RAM towing the 80 series is hilarious. LC 4 life!
RAM=dodge/crysler owned by fiat what a mess
I have owned both trucks....... The Tundra is much better..... I paid 47k for a loaded Rebel and 52k for the Tundra Pro.... Tundra has a 20% better resell factor... Handle and performs much better
See I gotta a problem. I'm getting the wife a Sequoia & I don't see any point in having the same truck in a Tundra. So what's the next best truck?
2012 Tundra CrewMax (5.7) T-Force..... love my Truck, just wish i got in a 4x4....... 16.5 mpg (w/K&N cai)
I always have driven Chevy Trucks basically because my dad did I recently purchased a 2014 RAM eco diesel-powered truck and there is no comparison to the Chevys I've had the RAM is far superior in every regard milage,power,quality, quiet ride,just drive one and see
I have 4 Toyota's in the driveway and have recently owned a Ram 1500 Lariat with the Hemi. If we are talking all-around capability and fun factor ESPECIALLY off-road, I would take the Rebel, but not with the expectation of keeping it forever. Also, what these guys didn't mention are the "always available" Fiat-Chrysler rebates available on Ram trucks...I got $11k off my last Ram and you usually just get a better deal on them overall.
What added technology does the Rebel have? He even says, airbags and "it looks like..." WTH?? So, it has more buttons to confuse and break? He didn't quantify what "more technology" is. It feels sportier? OK, I'll bite; I sat in a Ram Rebel and the seat is not near as comfortable as my 2 Tundras. As for space; no comparison; the Tundra wins hands down. I like the Rebel's looks guys but, let's give rational and objective views.
These guys were obviously giddy for the Rebel. The one guy even gives the Rebel points for going slower off-road... The only functional difference is the load leveling when towing, but you don't really buy either of these trucks to tow all the time. Maybe just put some air springs and better tires on the Tundra, spend the other $5,000 on a boat... th-cam.com/video/2h0Xu3rHcP8/w-d-xo.html
Off road package with no lockers? Lolz
A lot of other videos disagree
I like the gear shifter on the ram. It frees up so much room plus it looks cool and is solid aluminum. Not a fan of Toyota maybe if we were still in the 1980s but they feel very budget economy styling inside and out. I've owned several mopae cars trucks and SUVS. WHILE DODGE CUTS CORNER ON QUALITY CONTROL ITS THE BEST BANG FOR BUCK OUT THERE.
0:50 “For 2016 there’s really only two trucks available” In this bracket? Off-road-ready trucks straight from the factory, with warrantees? That’s not true. Almost every brand offered them, not the least of which is Ford.
bet the rebel will still need exhaust manifolds and bolts by 20k. 50k truck, 2cent hardware...
I am curious I used to see Raptors all the time, and now never. I know they are not in production anymore, but you would think you would still see some of the older ones around. Did they just not hold up or hidden away somewhere?
they are in still production the 2017 models are coming out soon. I have a 2011 and I'm never getting rid of the damn thing.
Please show me where a 2015 or 2016 model is available. Thanks
Jay Trock
really you can't use google. www.ford.com/trucks/f150raptor/
Aviator Guy I can. You are the one saying it is still in production. I said it wasn't. 2015 and 2016. That is my point. I know 2017 it coming out. Hopefully you can change oil better than you know production runs.
They're all at carmax, lol. I see more raptors at carmax than I do on the streets...
Glory Jesus for my 05 4.7 tundra ,I've had it 4 9 1/2 yrs, no engine problems
I’m looking into these since my Jeep is constantly in the shop with 33k miles. I’m also looking at the raptor but I don’t think I can justify a $1,200 monthly payment
Ok serious question....After the Tundra what truck would be the most reliable, off-road, all-around truck? Seriously..
did you shoot this with a iphone 4
Haven't read the comments yet but I know it's going to be like it always is. Dodge owners are going to dis Tundra and Tundra owners are going to dis the Ram.
Ram rebel 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Great video
After 1,000 miles the RAM rebel need it's 3rd transmission and new engine...terrible...
Man that Land Cruiser! Tasty!
if the ram rebel was a single cab I would like it better
The tundra is built better and will last longer. Also the price for maintenance/repairs will be a lot higher on the rebel.
I stood there and watched the guy sign, the Lancaster CA sierra toyota, does not mark up the pros, they get so few, they want them out the door.
I paid 41,000 out the door for my 2016 tundra sr5 TRD 4x4 5.7 liter, linex bed off road crewmax loaded, through authority auto brokers. that incl. all taxes, fees licence and delivered 150 miles to my office. authority got it down to 37000, before fees, you guys are paying way to much, use a broker, don't step foot into dealership, except to test drive.
any one who buys directly thru dealer gets bent over.
I've bought three cars this year through them, saved thousands, and no jerk off dealership theater.
I drove the 2016 SR5 4x4 upgrade out for less than 32,000 here in TX, with a $1000.00 trade in !!
That other guy favors the ram soooo much lmao
Fast forward 10 Years, you want that junk Ram or a Toyota Tundra.
I like the Ram its a beautiful truck but i decided to go with the Toyota Tundra double cab Trd Pro myself i feel it will last longer with less problem's. I feel the Ram air suspension and electrical will eventually fall its more of a show truck i plan on having this truck for many years but if i could get a new truck every 2-3 years i might have went with the Ram. I paid $44+k out the door. NY
Arizona?
I think you and other reviewers miss the point. Trivial stuff like usable space in the center console due to shifter placement is meaningless. Things like payload matter and it matters more than you think and none of you mention it. The may have a lot of sophisticated things in it, but by the time you add on the weight of the limited slip differential, the air suspension and the other options that come with it and fill it with gas, the Rebel's curb weight is such that the payload is down to 975 lbs. As a practical matter, what that means is you and four of your buddies, can go on an offloading adventure, but don't plan on staying overnight or having a tailgate party because you can't take anything with you. Five 175 lb guys tip the scales at 875 lbs. 100 lbs doesn't allow for much gear and if they guys are heavier forget it. That air suspension may nice and responsible for the Ram's ride, but it weighs an awful lot. That's why I got away from Jeep Wranglers and back into 4wd pickups. You pay damn near $40 grand for a Rubicon that can go anywhere, but you can't take anything with you. Payload only 850lbs less a tank of gas about 750. 4 adults and your done. No camping gear, no coolers loaded with drinks and ice nothing.
why can't they get the same tires at least for all trucks. I hate that when they tell the specs. the trucks are running a diff tire.....its always the case. and it doesn't make sense to me.
Which truck has a better resale value today as we speak . I say the tundra by far
No. Ford did not create the sport truck with the Raptor.
Dodge did. In 1976 with the Warlock and the Lil' Red Express.
what about the power wagon
The tongue weight of the trailer for the Tundra looked way too heavy.
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For the love of all things sacred, PUT A F*%KING LOCKER IN THE REBEL!!!....And skid plates while you're at it!!
raptor is that great honeslty ram almost smashed it with a a ram runner lmao and the rebel about and the only that cant be beaten and always dominates is the power wagon. here id agree the ram rebel is the best judgement on the trucks specs conclude everytbing such as tundra having a big rear diff set up at 4.30 ratio to where ram has it at 3.92 ratio lol so if you were to change the ram ratio to 4.10 or something it yet be more powerful than tundra and alot faster than quick lol. the toyota and the ram are both great looking badass trucks to be honest id drive both if i had both they just seem to be that proven tough kind of pickup truck to take to places and people lokking at your truck lol or go offroading whenever you feel like it without worrying youll get stuck lol. but yes the ram is best in this fact. but like I said both trucks are badass. though it is disappointing that the ram did shift know would be awesome like how tundra had theirs done then the ram would feel like a truck like it suppose to be lol. and for some guy saying the ram woukd be dead on the road like ford lol your funny lol theres a reason why ford is common with that lol its ford only dotn include ram to it lol their tough as hell they go as far as a toyota can but toyota can go further lol. except a ford lol just dont mention about it lol. but like again third time i repeat myself both trucks are badass
how does the Ram score on yearly reliability ratings compared to the Tundra, how about resale value
I still don’t understand why Toyota doesn’t put a locking rear differential in this truck.🤦🏻♂️
Chryslers are only good when new lol
Apparently it looks like tgese two guys are totally biased. Even from this video i can easily say Tundra has better interior, its more elegant than what it looks in Ram. Plus the over all body Tundra is a clear winner, it looks more powerful from outside like a real beast.
Be Cool "it looks more powerful" It's not as powerful. Looks are completely opinion based.
Dayton Sweet agreeed on that
Toyota has shitty interior!
is this a fair match? they say a little more, the rebel is 10,000 dollars more. if you spent the extra 10,000 on the tundra, it would have whooped the rebels ass. the ram has the old look of the dodge trucks, it's out dated, they need a new look, when they first came out with the dodge look, everyone thought they looked like little tractor trailers truck. for the money, the toyota run circles around the ram. save ten grand, put in a air system, and take a vacation to for a month.
Interesting, but the Problem with the Ram is in 5 years it will be worth 25% less than the Toyota, I'd pick the Toyota just for that reason.
another good reason is reliability
Great review but you guys wanting to hold on to sticks and not wanting to press buttons makes me think, well ya know!
I have both trucks, The 15 trd has 36k miles on it, the truck is trash, I have 30k on my ram and work it harder in the hills, and on the road, id seriously never look at the TRD pro over my Rebel.
The tundra looks 10x better than that Rebel.. Looks like Dodge went to Auto Zone for their styling.. IMO.. A good set rims and tires and that tundra would look amazing.. My '13 Rock Warrior just turned over 75k miles.. and this truck looks tempting, but Im still waiting to see when, or if, they get a new drivetrain..
ShitFromShinola probably spent a shit load of gas to
Offroad review and the first think you talk about is the exaust...?!
From experience for ram air suspension has a tendency of freezing up in northern Alberta
I have a 2017 rebel and love it! And made in USA vin number 1!!! Not in Mexico like they are now junk!
my god could they make the Ram on the tailgate any bigger? looks terrible
That's one of the reason ram is more expensive, they spent a lot of money on those massive letters LOL
I really like off road cars, mostly muscle cars.