2018 Half-Ton Shootout: F-150 vs Silverado vs Ram 1500
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- We take a look at which of the Big Three half-ton pickups is the best off-road, straight from the dealership.
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"Not that mmuch grip" literally plowing through the snow with a trailer
Also on the Ram, the reviewer states that the towing capacity on the Ram is 7600lbs but if you opt for the 3.92 axle you get 10,200 on the 4x4.
That's correct. My 2018 hemi with 3.92s is rated for 10,490 and I've hauled 9-10,000 with ease, no airbag suspension either
Doesn't specify a load leveling hitch?
He literally said "in this configuration". Listen before typing.
I just sold my limited ram with 392 gear ratio. I hated. 6.1 mpg towing a 4000 pound trailer at 71 miles per hour. My new denali with 6.2 , and 323 ratio is way better
you didn't choose the best off road examples from each
I wouldn't dare to take a $70,000 truck off-road.
They never compare apples to apples with these truck comparison videos. No matter who is making it.
Their clowns and wanna bee's...nothing her is as it should be. The Ford should have been the Lariat, FX4 Off Road...Those tires we're useless!!!
I agree. BUT considering I'll pry never own the off-road editions, it was nice to see what he thought about the capabilities of more average trucks.
New truck owners: yeah I got a 500/month payment.....for the next 17 years, but it’s affordable
80's Chevy not if you buy a ram well at least the 4th generation I only paid 31,000 for a big horn with a 5.7 hemi 4x4
Alex SJ fuck that's cheap..I paid like 50k Canadian for mine big Horn crew rambox hemi
When i became the sun.. yes I know sir even the big horn 2500 was 40,000 but this was back in 2016 the local dealer wasn’t selling as much it was the end of oct that’s why I got a heck of deal .
Truck MSRP's are sky high, but deals have never been better. My 17 Big Horn stickered for 48995 and I paid $30400. Yet, we wonder why the used market is so strong, because people are morons and compare a used trucks price to new's MSRP. I can trade my truck in today for more then I paid new because dealers know they can sell it all day for 35k! Makes no sense to me!
I got my longhorn for 58 2017
You seem to not be a GM fan, you spent the least time recapping it. It seemed you are a Ford fan because you talked it up and spent the most time on it and the Dodge.
Maybe its because the gas model chevys suck now?
I even skipped the part when the silverado came out hahaha
The ram has more substantial information to learn about because it stands out in many angles. Chevy just quit improving and competing. I won't consider the Ford because I could dent it with my index finger.
@@marlonpatriz8070 give the Ram just a few yrs and you will be able to poke your index finger thru just about any panel on it due to rust out
08 Silverado 5.3 with 160k and runs like a clock no lifter knock or anything 😎
How do you take care of ur truck
I think you made a pretty good video but the fact that these trucks do not compare to each other because of different engines and different trim packages for off-road capability does not make sense it would only be fair to each truck if they were more similar
Whenever a vehicle has fancy air ride , its only good for about 7 years. Examples Landrover...Mercedes. the heck with Dodge give me that Silverado!!
True
The Chevy Interior is still my favourite. The ram is a very very close second. The ford is just boring to me.
Dude look back at 2006. Chevy and dodge looked ancient and still do compared to ford
I agree. I have an F-150 and a Sierra. Sierra interior is definitely better.
I got 2018 Ford f1500 happy with it. :)
Wow an f 1500 how may wheels you got mate 😂😂😂
Not really a off road test. Looks more like a grocery run in the country. SMH
So true
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Those limited f150's are totally yuppie trucks. That's why they have those shit tires
Victor hobson they are, but so is anything with the word denali in it.
If the 5.3 kept up to the 6.2 then it already won
HA ! ikr , xD
Any other Chevy fan like me salty af?
Micah Whitaker fr Ford bias
And with good reason. Ford is the best.
Meh, my 2018 6.2 is so fun. Never had a truck like this.
@@parkerwebb6235 as a person who’s personally owned multiple of the big three and my family has as well fords are always the worst9. Maybe it’s a north east thing. Gms are generally the most comfortable and have good reliability and the dodges put up to tough work the best. I can’t count how many times me and my fathers old dodges were the last two trucks plowing a snow storm after all our other guys had Broken down in newer nicer trucks
Im a huge chevy fan. That said, gm needs to make the 6.2 standard v8 in the trucks. There 2 big and heavy for only 5.3 liters to keep up with the competition.
Ram suspension is either Coil springs on 4 corners or Air bags on all 4 corners. It doesn't come with both. The rear suspension is a 5 link in either configuration.
I recently got a 16 Ram Lone Star 1500. And wow I’m speechless! Turns like a car and it’s smooth!
Love my 2016 RAM. Drove it 4000 miles last summer on vacation. Smooth, comfortable, quiet and pretty decent on fuel with the HEMI.
The Ram was actually redesigned in 2013 , the outside almost looks the same as the 09-12 but there are slight differences . And that 8 speed is awesome. As tested must have had a 3.21 because a 3.92 equipped Ram is rated to tow over 10k
Front bumper and head lights are the only difference outside. 13 onwards have a nicer interior though.
Loved the review, although you should state that all it costs is a mere $95 on the ram to get the 3.92 rear end and then it can tow over 10k. Seemed to me like that was really the only Con to the other parts of the review about the Ram.
Two of the three trucks are premium engines and the Chevy is only the base V8 hmmm what's with that? Where is the 6.2?
Nik Sikkema they got trucks with the standard engines. Gm decided to put the 5.3 pos engine as the base engine. Yell at Chevy not off road.com
5.3 isn't a pos it's reliable asf, just not very powerful. Kinda like the 305 vs the 350, both great engines in reliability.
Andy Hass well the Ecoboost is definitely not the base engine and neither is the hemi all these trucks are different trim level so it's not even a good comparison to begin with and the 5.3 is not a POS it's a great motor just not as powerful as the 6.2 or other premium options.
Nova Man the 6.2 has 420 hp and 460 lb ft the most powerful engine you can buy in a half ton so they are not behind especially seems both of those engine are a few years old now and are being charged for 2019 that will put them further ahead of what RAM and Ford as premium engines choices
Nova Man yeah they only offer max 3.42 gears in 6.2 so it's more fuel efficient and not going to be as quick and will still pull more than a hemi and the engine is still more powerful
I love my 2017 RAM. Got it fully loaded, it's amazing. And you can tow up to 10k with 3.92 gear ratio
I wish they would offer 4.11 gears or higher for bigger tires. The 8 speed will help get it up to speed.
Kevin Smith I think that be too low. I have the 3.21 and it gets up to speed pretty well. But I'm sure you could get some after market 4.11
He pissed me off with the towing comments on the Ram. He chose to compare a Ram with 3.23s instead of getting the 3.92s which would have been the most fair comparison. You can get the 3.92s in very trim level. At the least he should have mentioned those facts.
Victoryrider412
Don't be so disappointed. These truck comparisons never use trucks that have the same gear ratio (TFLTruck's Ike Gauntlet).
Juan Uribe maybe ram will catch up to Ford towing capacity one day
Nice trucks, but should have had the high country for the comparison. It wouldn’t have made a difference, except for the sound :) Gm is really failing their customers. That air suspension is nice, but this segment of trucks really is about daily fuel economy. So for that I’ll take the Ford. Nice review though
You want a true comparison of power use GM top of the line truck like you did with ford and dodge. You need to use a Sierra Denali with a 6.2 liter and 8 speed.
Not a fair comparison to Chevy.
Is this a review on the trucks or the tires? Wish this wasn’t done in the snow. Not the best review of the trucks when tires are such a material factor.
brian markle those r the stock tires. So yes it's fair review.
@@crazyhass84 If you check the load rating on those tires, I'll bet you can't legally tow much.
I'm a Chevy guy...But I am so disappointed in Chevy design. I had high hopes for the "new model", it still has a dated dash and with ground clearance equal to a Toyota Camry. I still don't trust Dodge, I am not a fan of a 6cyl from the Ford (yes I am aware that they have the power but they still sound like a lawn mower) Oh and the fact that all three cost way too much for a TRUCK.
And it feels cheaper but i cant complain i like cheaper feeling vehicles especially ones with cloth seats
$60k+ is a tough pill to swallow.
I'm laughing at the fact they chose a limited f150. The least off-road of all models. Silly review.
Just bought a 2020 Ram 1500, I drive a 2023 F350 super duty for work….no comparison when it comes to drive feel, Ram all day
Why wouldn’t you use an F-150
With the FX4 Off-road Package?
You need to do an apples to apples comparison, test the Chevy with the 6.2 in the High Country. How can you even call it comparable when the ram is only capable of towing 7750 lbs.
Really? Jiggly? What about the fogged up side window in the Ford? Plus the Ram? Leave the recycle control off in the heater. Also to bring a 5.3 in to this test, in a truck averaging about 8k less than the others, when for 2k more the 6.2 is available that would make all the difference in the world! Oh the air suspension does come on all club and crew cabs! The only Ram you cannot get the air suspension in is the regular cab!
Im not a fan of the air suspension. Its great, but comes with its own set of problems......
The Chevy is not as comfortable, but GM focuses on ling term durability/reliability. I bet that before that ram hits 150k miles, something on the air suspension. Unlike the ram, the Chevy will easily run the stock suspension to 250k miles.
Emory Bragg I heard that they do run into suspension issues with that. I also know for a fact that they rust a ton. This dude drove it over salt too lol. The back end will be orange/brown next year. 😂
Both Dodge 1500s we owned were complete garbage. would never buy another one. Problems at 90,000 miles. Absolutely ridiculous.
I am a Chevy guy. Longevity goes to Chevy. Ford makes a great new truck, but a used Ford comes with issues. Dodge makes massive power but from my experience, drivetrain on a Dodge has been the question. I drive an 02 Avalanche and use it as a truck in Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Rust is starting but it is a 16 year truck with 225 thousand on it. I just can’t afford. $68 thousand Ford
I am a Chevy guy. Longevity goes to Chevy. Ford makes a great new truck, but a used Ford comes with issues. Dodge makes massive power but from my experience, drivetrain on a Dodge has been the question. I drive an 02 Avalanche and use it as a truck in Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Rust is starting but it is a 16 year old truck with 225 thousand on it. I just can’t afford. $68 thousand Ford.
No, I guarantee that the Ford will fall appart before anything happens on the other two. It's got a puny forced v6 for crying out loud. Haven't you seen the stats? It's rare to see a v6 Ford with even 200k miles which is nothing for the other two
Dump the fancy low profile tires, the wheels that make the truck look like a Cadi, and dump the chrome. In harsh Michigan winters, fancy is not practical.
Off-Road.com, if you get the air suspension you don't get additional springs. The air bags are the springs. So if you want the coil suspension you can't have the air springs. It's one or the other.
“the tires are an issue” because you will keep the same tired for the entire time you own the truck
Ram Nation forever...
Honestly they don’t make bad trucks. But I like Luxury so I got a RAM Limit. And I love it.
For 2018 luxury I would go with Ford because it has a lot more like massaging seats and a panoramic roof. Now for 2019 I am leaning towards the Ram but Ford is bring an all new F-150 for 2020.
redd7188 agreed ram really picked it up for 2019 but I still would go ford b cause it is just what I have had
Maverick Gaming you cannot go wrong with either. Ford still offers things like massaging seats that no one else does. I really think the 2020 F-150 is gonna raise the bar again. The Chevy and GMC have been left behind. The Ram and F-150 are the only two worth looking at imo.
They dont make bad trucks unless you want them to protect you in a crash.....
T-ROY my company literally stopped buying rams because they were always in the shop.
They just stick to ford and chevy
Why do a snowy “off-road” comparison with the only Ford truck with the most street tires imaginable? This is the way you did the other snowy video. Get the platinum. Much better tires and Fx4 eligible.
None of these were off-road packages.
Then what's the z71 package on the Silverado then.
Apparently you haven't spent much time with the GoodYear SR-A's on the Chevy and Ram...they're trash, especially in the snow. I replaced mine after less than a year of driving on them. I'd say this is a pretty fair, apples/apples comparison.
Ram is the best, then Chevy, Ford's just suck!
Yeah not fair that some had off road packages and others didn’t and who tf offroads in snow and tows in snow?
How about doing reviews on more affordable full size 4x4 trucks?
bayou boat trash Agreed!
bayou boat trash bro you can get a big horn ram 4x4 for 31,000 crew cab right now
Alex SJ but how many do they have on the lot? Most of the time if there isn't a sale, the price is ridiculous.
bayou boat trash e price is 33,000 but in person it’s like 31,000 .. brand new the eco diesel is around 34,000 you get 28 mpg www.elkgrovedodge.net/new/Ram/2017-Ram-1500-6c973d130a0e0a170ad74995596bc731.htm
Agreed these are not even the best models to compare for off road and towing.
Those Rams are a lot of fun to drive . My brother just bought a ‘18 Rebel and it’s great . I’ll soon be buying a Silverado as a daily
tbh I rather have the 2.7. Test drove the 2.7 & 3.5 and the 2.7 was better at bottom end had more pep to its step and as far as im conceres can do anything the 3.5 can do
I finally decided on purchasing the 2017 GMC Sierra Denali ultimate truck with the 6.2 V8 and the Magnaride suspension
I have watched this guy do many reviews on TFL and he is a MAJOR Ram fanboy. I have nothing against any of these trucks, but his reviews are pretty biased. Ram interiors of this generation are the worst and he makes it sound amazing. GM were definitely the best of this generation although I will say the new Rams are currently the best!
Anybody taking these trucks off road clearly has more money than brains.
are duallys better for driving in a snow?
No one is buying these trims and taking them offroad. You do great work but I think you should have compared like an xlt fx4 against the comparable trims of the other brands as those would be the ones you see out on the trails. Imo
If the Ford feels light does that mean it can carry more then it's weight and does that mean it's powerful and if the ram seems heavy does that mean the engine is having trouble with its weight
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Funny that the guy that tows all three of these trucks to the junkyard will be driving a Toyota Tundra.
Good review on the air ride. Another advantage off road is when the trucks are loaded down to max payload with gear and people the other two trucks will suffer from suspension sag and lose on all the approach, breakover, body and departure angles. The Ram with air ride will level out and lose nothing, making it a far better off road truck than the other two.
Where is the tundra and Titian?
Cold day in he'll when I spend 10k more for that furd. Ford + turd. Ram has better interior, same mpg with v8 as Ford with v6..., air suspension, and cheaper to insure as it's steel vs al.
Bang for the buck is ram 1000x over. They have come a long way in 10 years! Ford is just over priced.
Then why is it at the bottom of every single reliability listing? Ford costs more because it'll last longer.
I would say this is a very one sided review somebody really likes Ford
Chevy silverado I love ti
5.3 ls v8 doesnt sound great? what the
It would appear chevy was the lowest bidder when it came to sponsoring for this video.
I recently picked up a 18 Z71 with the 5.3l and agree that in stock form it is just too quiet. Very easily fixed though with a simple cat back system for a few hundred dollars. Plan on doing it to mine hopefully by spring time.
@@gamesguitarsandcars My '18 sounds great for a stock exhaust. Nothing sounds better than a Chevy small block.
Good video im lovin Rams interior Fords powerplant and Chevys chassis and suspension
Lol at 67000$ i paid 3500$ for my truck and it hauls, goes offroad and gets me around just fine. I would rather own 20 of my 2002 silverado than 1 of those fords, and could for the $.
There's a reason your chevy costs 3,500, it just baffles me why someone would pay that much for someone elses garbage.
Casey Dman had it for 3 years and over 80k, and put 20$ in gas tank straps into it, outside of oil changes and tires. I beat the hell out of it, and treat it like a truck. Ill save the 50,000$ and not be scared to use my truck as a truck.
That’s great if your poor, so congrats, but if you were rich you’d be riding one of these hypocrite
cool. nobody gives a fuck bout ur junk
sammy10001 my truck runs a1. Looks pretty good too for the shit i put it through. I owned a brand new truck once, and realized it was a dumb decision. Im not very materialistic with my trucks as long as it can haul shit im good. Its a tool not a luxury vehicle.
Why not compare apples to apples and be fair put the 6.2L in the Silverado. Have a 17 High Country 6.2L and it's a beast. Classy looking truck. Had a 14 Ram Sport Crew great truck but doesn't compare to HC. As for Ford well I'm not even going to comment on it.
Because then they would have to match that up against the 6.4L Hemi.
Martin Garcia 5.3L foot pounds torque of 383 doesn't compare to Ford's 470 and Rams 410 not a level playing field. Talk to me when it's fair because this certainly wasn't.
Martin Garcia These is a half ton truck comparison. The 6.4L Hemi is not offered in half ton trim, the 6.2L is, thus makes the 6.4L Hemi obsolete for this test, but not the 6.2L.
Last 2 trucks were Chevys. The designers of the new Cheverolet trucks should get kicked in the nuts. Ugly as hell with outdated interior. Went with the new F150 this time and not disappointed.
arfbarg Agree very disappointed with the inside and out design looks like a child designed it.
Limited means a couple badges, some panel trim, fancy rims, and some embroidery lol. Bam, $20k extra.
The only reason the Ford didn't win is because of the 22" street tires. Tires make all the difference in this comparison.
Not the only reason, but I'll bet it's illegal to tow that much with those tires.
get it with 3.92 gears and tow a lot more. The 3.21 gears are the limit for the rams tow rating.
Unfortunately the IRS considers these to be family vehicles instead of work trucks because of the reduced bed length and increased passenger space, so you can’t take a full deduction for business use. I can’t believe the manufacturers could have known this because they are building very few with extended vs crew cabs. I’ve been to 6 dealers and all they have are crew cabs.
Thank you for your unbiased opinion. This definitely easier on which truck I want when I am ready to get one.
Ford does not set the bar. It is the bar. Over 1 million plus sold every year. Chevy and Dodge wish that can perform like an F-150. The EcoBoost is money and will continue to dominate
Great review, I’ve been a Chevy man oh my life, however RAM gave me what I needed and wanted not to mention the RAM BOXES. I am a Ram man today
Ram boxes came from the Chevy avalanche
No tundra ?
Been f150 for years, took it of road multiple times, had Nitto tired on it. The ride was hard but got used to it, recently got a ram and the difference is big, I was going over the same holes and jumps and the truck was surprisingly very comfortable.
Dont know about you people but when I hear "SRA" tires don't exactly come to mind lol
My approach: Buy a brand-new Chevy Silverado (that they offered a $13,000 discount on) and upgrade the shit out of it with the $20,000 I saved from not buying those other trucks... Badass off-road truck for under $50k.
Hey offroad.com is The steering in the Ford is light, Chevy middle, & Ram heavy. Then what does the Nissan Titan and Titans XD steering feel like?! IMO that’s one thing no reviewer ever talks about in the comparison. Well that and drivers footrest.
Has Dodge fixed their air suspension failure issue in cold weather yet (being serious)? I thought that this options was awesome but read multiple threads about this being a huge issue with people who live in cold climates.
Sounded like a Ram commercial. Off raiding with Ram's best suspension available yet using Ford suspension without the FX4 suspension. How much did Fiat pay for this ? Off course the Ford used here was geared toward the luxury ride with those tires and suspension setup
You didn't highlight the Chevy's off road information on the dash which is the same as the Ford's
Ford and GM has the same transmission in the 10 speed
literally GM build it, Ford is just a partner
Uh, no. Educate yourself. Stop talking out your ass.
I got the 6 speed in my sierra thankfully
Did this guy just compare the smaller of the two 5.3L from GM to the "top dogs" of Ford and Dodge and consider it a fair comparison?
So, top of the line ford and ram are better then a mid trim Chevy. Got it.
An ltz z71 is a mid range model? Got it.
Troy Macauthor yeah actually. High country is top. So ltz is mid range. And z71 has nothing to with range. It’s a suspension package ou can get on every trim level. Got it?
WT, LS, CUSTOM, LT, LT Z71, LTZ, LTZ Z71, High Country. Six trim levels under the LTZ Z71 and one above it. Got it.
Troy Macauthor lol. So what the fuck would you call the one under the top? Next to top trim? No. It’s still MID trim. WT is bottom. High country is top. Everything in between is mid.
Sewermonkey69 The LS and LTZ Z71 trim levels are the same because they are both neither top or bottom of their spectrum. Got it!
10 speed was co-engineered by gm and ford(just so you know), but nevertheless the Ford was not an FX4, all the trailers weighed different amounts, top engines in ram and ford used but not chevy, off road suspension is supposed to be a lot stiffer so you don't bottom out(z71). Overall I did not think that this was a fair comparison for any of them, but I will respect your opinion in trucks, as everyone has there own opinion.
Ford bias. And you didn’t even get a high trim level like the others.
7K lbs in the Ram? LOL that's cute...
Dodge RAM for sure. ...so nice.
I love the f150 it's the fastest best looking truck out there. Fiat chevrogay have nothing against this truck. I've crushed em all with my tiny 2.7 v6 lol sad ...pathetic so much for "big" v8s. Lol
Average Joe's can't really afford these trucks. I'm just being honest. In my area these would probably be bought as company fleet work trucks then slowly trickle down to guys like me. I don't live in a big city or high population area. People are poor.. Realistically I probably won't see too many 2018 trucks on the road till about 2025.. Then I'll be sitting here watching the 2025 trucks shit on my 2018 truck lol... The cycle repeats...
You’re obviously being paid by Ram...
Apples and Oranges on the trim levels.
Am Chevy guy but this time ram won!!
Ram? Lmfao suuuuuuuure thing buddy, an Italian owned “truck” that can’t haul or tow for jack crap without looking like it missed leg day. Give me a break!
67000$ i paid Fully loaded and my bank account is now fully empty.
Where are you getting your numbers bud?
Ford and Chevy are the best hands down the dodge is just an expensive piece of junk that will spend its life in a shop
Ford is the best
Why are u comparing the limited f150 to a lower end truck? For fair comparison you should be comparing the f150 to the high country silverado
Bro you do a great job in your reviews...just so u know...love king Chevy and even though the Chevy is updated my heart is loving and lending to the heart of the RAM...
Ford has always been my favorite but dodge would be in close for second.
When it comes to the more heavier work trucks thats where i sit on things too
@@adambreckenridge3741 when that Dodge starts it issues, message me I'll pray for you...
I like my Chevy....nothing to add a lift, dual exhaust and bigger tires
@@williamsteelejr1534 break downs are just normal to ram owners. So its whatever to them.
i sell all of these, the chevys don't feel 'cheaper' than the others.....lol
You do an off road comparison and use a Ford City truck instead of the fx4?
The air bags will fail. Keep it overnight in that snow and that suckers going to crash down on the wheels. Garunteed to fail after a couple years.
This guy is my favorite truck critic. Speak with truth and honesty. Nothing biased. Great Reviews
If your talking about real off road performance you would have chosen the Raptor. There is a reason the best selling vehicle in the world is the F-150.
Do you know if the Dodge has fixed the Ram air suspension failure in the cold?
Yup, move south..
I GOT MY NEW TRUCK WITH 2ND GENERATION LOAN. MEANING, ONCE I DIE, THE LOAN AUTOMATICALLY GOES INTO MY SON'S NAME, AND HE CAN PAY IT OFF.
Chevy all day