Yep, my camper video that I installed a Sony stereo I had to delete all the audio off of that one. Also I had a moped ride that it I was filming and had anthrax playing during the ride I had to delete all that audio too. Oh well.
I bought and sold the exact same engine a few years ago. When Honda discontinues a particular model, they let the patents expire. If I remember correctly they were balanced, had very little if no vibration and extremely quiet... just like a Honda actually. I don't think there was a single one returned either. Of course I couldn't advertise them as "Honda", but for the money I was able to buy them, and sell them for, they were better.
Nice video. I bought my daughter a go kart here recently for Christmas with a Tecumseh engine. HS-50 to be exact. had to replace the clutch. Tire, wheel and sprocket which i got all in one for $45 bucks in Ohio. I replaced the points,condenser,plug but now i am having a hard time keeping her running. engine runs but doesn't run if you get what i mean. Point of this you showed me what a good motor that is and once this motor goes that will be next to be installed.
I got a go kart with the same engine on it and to be honest it’s complete trash. It was a 5hp and it’d start but if it stayed idling it’s just die so I’ve decided on buying one of these predator motors and believe me it’s for the better. There’s a reason tuchumsen doesn’t exist anymore their motor are garbage. Plus you’ll get a lot more fun out of the predator. They are only like 100 bucks if you’ve got a coupon and 120 without it. Totally worth the buy.
If you ever end up owning that thing than go on Amazon and buy one of those Chinese torque converters. They are cheap but they work just as good as the American made ones and they will make that go cart really rip. It also gets rid of all of the clutch noise and stuff too. I put one on my minibike with basically the same engine that you have and if you are sitting to far back on it and you give it WOT from a standstill you will flip over backwards.
I bought an old Murray explorer frame that had a Tecumseh 6 that was shot for $100. bought the 6.5 motor from Harbor freight $150. Direct bolt up. Removed the oil level sensor cut off wire and done. I can Throttle high or low.
thanks for the video, i have the same go cart frame 2.5hp briggs. just ordered the same engine as you did plus new clutch. my 10 year old and i will have a fun project.
I put a Predator 212 cc on a Chinese 2 wheel drive mini atv..frame. Centrifigal clutch 7 or 8 teeth and reused rear sprocket, about 40 tooth. Some easy frame mods with welder and tossed the Chinese plastic "body fender" stuff. This sucker flies although gear ratio is for "fast" so starting out from stop I have help it a bit since I am 200 lbs. Never have opened it up as it feels like I will go airborne...I call it the Doom Buggy. Good engines I have 3 for various applications
Foxboss9 It is on my channel in a video of sighting in my rifle but not featured or seen close-up. It is not a show piece but it runs. It seems there is some kind of minor fix needed from time to time but that is only because it is "custom" and the frame etc were abused in another life. I wanted something like this when I was a kid but never had one. Here I am at 60 and finally have my Doom Buggy (kind of neglected my Harley for a while, for shame!)! I would not let a kid this ride it without helmet and proper attire though, definitely not a toy.
Some of them do rust and won't come off. Unfortunately You will need to buy a new pulley and cut the old one off with damaging the crankshaft too much.. Good luck.
I had to completely disassemble and reassemble this engine for my comprehensive technology class. Unfortunately, the rpm was too high because the governor was placed too high up.
Those governors if not adjusted can be the downfall of the engine real quick if you don't shut them down in time. Just remember,with the linkage connected, and the throttle plate wide open, the governor gets adjusted as far as it can go in the same direction as it took to open the throttle plate. After you've done it a hundred or so times you don't even have to think about it.
daxter561 lower the Rpms at idle so it's not engaging the clutch.. If it is already a low/factory idle and the clutch is still engaging either install heavier springs in the clutch or buy a higher rpm one both can be found at BMI Karts.. Tell them you saw the video on TH-cam and I said for you to call them.. Good luck..
Question my wheel moves with out me pressing the gas paddle ? It’s a new predator engine also ? Can u help me figure it out why does it run with out pressing pedal ?
Just bought a used cart for the grandkids, came with little 5hp Subaru , plenty on top end once you get it rolling but will not climb uphill even with a small load? any adjustments to look at before I start replacing parts? Motor starts super easy and sound good just no pulling power
Kerry forga gear ratio and clutch rpm engagement... The engine has to be at Optimum rpm when the clutch engages... Tire size and tooth count on both sprockets has to match what you want the kart to do..
Please forgive me if I'm asking a question you've already answered. What is your painting process? Do you use spray cans, brush, power spryer? I'm in the process of finishing up an old go kart. Thanks
That is the first time anyone has asked... I used "rattle can" spray paint. Make sure to wipe down really well with a solvent of some type like mineral spirits. (I use brake cleaner) Then use a a really good primer and decent spray paint OR in my case I used really good spray paint without primer.. I am a huge fan of Valspar Tractor and implement spray paint. It goes on even, it has great self leveling properties, it dries fast and shiny, and a couple of coats makes it hard to chip. Here is a link - - amzn.to/1L83Fzu the downside is that the colors are limited.
Great video! I have a question if you'd be so kind. I have this same motor, but the sprocket on the gokart seems to be quite large so the motor will have to be lifted on a fabricated mount system OR I could change the sprocket to something smaller in diameter. Which would you recommend?
Shannon Lewis spacer for the motor..that is If you are happy with the current sprocket(gearing). If you change the sprocket make sure the pitch is correct for the chain and that it is a compatible tooth count to match the other sprocket. As far as mounting it on a spacer try some good quality hardwood first to make sure all is good then you can machine something more permanent later.. sometimes I end up leaving the hardwood on.. good luck
Question I just added mine on a go kart but my pulls moves once I turn it on y is that? Yours engine is on moves only when throttle is pull mine doesn’t ?
Harbor freight has two 6.5 hp's Item#69727 or 69730. Do you know which you used and what the difference is? Did you have to take links out of the chain or put spacers under the engine? I'm replacing a B& S 135212 on a manco starbird go cart,looks very similar to what you did. If the clutch and base bolt on,I just have to play with the throttle cable.
Not sure you will have to rewatch the video and look on the box for the number... No spacers were used to mount engine except heavy washers. chain was made to length..
Thank you for sharing that video. I went and bought the same engine but now I can't find a clutch locally. What kind and where did you buy that clutch u installed. Thanks for your help
I have same go kart body. Did you have to move tweak any thing to get the chain in place to the cluch and sprocket..??? Plz answer I'm thinking of buying the engine.
Nice job! Wondering... can the pull start housing on this engine be rotated aft (to the left looking at it) to make it easier to start when it's mounted to the kart? Also what's your sprocket and tire ratio? Building a kart for the grandson. Best. Thx
What a cool Grandpa..! The recoil can be rotated. I have no idea of what that ratio was for suggestions based on tire size, weight, horsepower you might want to contact BMI Karts.. Good luck..
hey I am purchasing a go-kart that has all the tires being slicks and i wanted to know if they would be fine to drive around my neighborhood. I know you can not drive them in the rain and that is fine but I just wanted to know how they would run, wear, and work. most important thing I want to know is how long they will last if I drive an average of 10 mins a day because I had a previous go kart that had tires with tread that were meant for lawn mowers and they wore out within 2 weeks and completley poped. the speed is about 25mph please answer
TechMultiview100 Man I wan't to give you a good answer but it's all relevant.. I would suspect the lawn and garden tires compound was more for turf as most are...but if your alignment was ok and the cart didn't weigh much and the driving was reasonable, then I would think they should have lasted a lot longer than 2 weeks. The slicks are made for asphalt/concrete but the smoothness of the driving surface can vary greatly. So, to answer your question on how YOUR tires on YOUR kart that YOUR driving on YOUR streets are going to last and taking in consideration the karts weight, alignment, suspension, engine HP, aggressiveness of driving and also surface temperature and etc etc.. ,,,, I cannot even fathom a guess. I will say, that with the slicks, you should notice better cornering ability for sure. as far as longevity,,,, hard telling.. good luck
I used this same predator engine on my manco 606 go kart and it improved drastically. I love the engine, especially for the price. what cutch system did you use on this kart? I'd like to know because I am planning on using the same engine on a street kart build.
Excellent video, I am currently in the same boat and this video helped a ton. Was wondering what clutch you bought for it. I love the way you painted. Great work. Please if you can give me some info on the clutch. Thanks again.
ahh Limp bizkit's roll'n oh boy..... Nice:) kart looks like fun I had a manco dingo go-kart myself with the stock tecumseh powersport motor that only needed a cable, and a new carb, thing fired right up, it was a 6.0, man that thing was a beater..... It was a 1995
No Problem. check out the description.. And for a quick video of my last three wheel project click this link .. th-cam.com/video/QwA8688Eoc8/w-d-xo.html Thanks for watching..
MoNsTeR_KaMiL Bolts to mount engine were 7/16 self tapping that I had left over from a riding mower. the washer was something else I had lying around. the only things I could recall that were specific to this engine that I bought , I listed in the description.. sorry.
+emily gannon could be a variable belt drive to chain or a standard clutch which is what I have on this cart.. You May want to check with BMI Karts...just google them..
I have a honda xr2500 and i want to buy a clutch to mount in on a small dirtbike but the shaft doesnt have a way to put in a bolt to hold it in any ideas??
Mike Thomas 2 reasons not to... 1) I was reselling it. 2) I would never install a tork-a-verter or any other variable drive on a non-live axle cart.. These yard carts only go for about $375-450 in this region.. $120 for the new engine... $75 for the new tires.. And then add the cost of a live axle conversion and finally the variable drive.. And I would have an asking price over $600 to make the same profit I did selling this at $425 And, the cart was only in my possession for 3 days total.. Adding those extra components would have made the "flip" of this unit take an additional day. And that's only "if" I was able to get a buyer at a much higher price.. NOW, if I was to keep it I would have done the axle conversion and variable drive plus there a lot of other things I , Like suspension, bigger tires, disc brakes and Exhaust..
Hey bro, I have a question, but first let me say Thanks! Your videos I've watched helped tremendously. So, Can a kill switch on the 6.5 Honda Clone get locked in the Off position causing the connection to the coil to stay broke and not deliver spark needed? Thanks again!
+Hardball Hall Thanks!! I won't say that it isn't possible but, it is likely either. If you suspect an issue with the Switch just disconnect the ground portion of the switch (2 wire) if it is a one wire just unbolt/unscrew the switch from the mounting position(1 wire).. If there is a low oil shut off sensor on the engine . try disconnecting that too to make sure it isn't bad..good luck
+Foxboss9 It's a 6.5 Honda clone. only a year old. I've found the problem, clogged carb! Im the one who clogged it too! I guess I let something get in the carb when I reassembled it, don't take much at all to clog those jets. You mentioned an oil sensor. If there was one on mine where would it be? And thanks again, This Endeavor has made me like it, I've taken apart everything I got that runs on gas! lol! Thanks again;
Hardball Hall If equipped it would be a small metal box about the size of 2 starburst candies and have a wire entering into the block close to where the oil level sits at..
If you're talking about the kill switch it goes directly to the coil and it grounds the input wire. That's the small wire that's on the coil not the spark plug wire.
Sorry, I don't recall tire size. I bought them at TSC(tractor supply). As far as speed, maybe 25mph. That depends on so many factors. Rider weight, engine rpms, tire size and most importantly gearing. If you were to set up your kart for top end speed only with a lightweight driver I would think 45 MPH would be obtainable. Good luck!
I think the washer I used was from a 1978 Mustang Cobra 302 harmonic balancer bolt washer. Or washer from harmonic balancer bolt on 1975 460 from a Lincoln Towncar.
You can buy new wheels online from BMI Karts .. Or if you slot your holes on the frame pad where the engine mounts and buy a longer chain you can move the engine forward so the clutch doesn't hit, As long as your wheel set isn't really huge.
I'm trying to build a small go kart i live in a small town and i want something i can sneek in the woods but anyways what do i need to build a basic go kart besides the engine and brake and throttle such as transition or etc i see that you have that black sprocket thing attacked to the engine is that all the basic i would need is that and the engine ?
The black thing is a clutch.. It is a critical part.. The easiest way to get a cart built is to buy a old one needing repaired or buy a frame and go from there..
MoNsTeR_KaMiL All depends on RPM's, tire size , weight of kart, weight of rider, what kind of terrain you'll be riding on, Pavement top speed, or more torque for hill climb/stop go..too many variables for me to answer..
Did you engine come with the bolt that holds the clutch on? Mine did not come with one do you happen to remember what size bolt you used, length and size?
I recently bought the same engine for my kart. Did you have any trouble starting it? All fluids are good, I set the engine switch to ON, choke on, and gas on, and still won't fire up. Any suggestions?
michael hipol mine fired up in 3 pulls.. Check for spark by spraying a couple short burst of carb cleaner/starting fluid in the carburetor directly.. If it tries to start then you know spark is good.
Hey man I just wanted to say THANKS for that tutorial on removing the friction washer. I thought I was screwed but this engine bolted onto my MURRAY with an old beat up tecumseh I dicked with that engine for 2 - 3 hours before I just said fuck it went to harbor freight and got this engine. It bolted up bolt for bolt and everything was perfect. shortened the throttle cable and BOOM brand new awesome running engine that starts on the first pull.
I don't remember what I had on there.. You may want to try it. You'll be surprised how much you can learn from experimenting with different drive combinations.
I want to connect a kill switch I bought the same motor at Harbor Freight the go kart frame that I have came with a kill switch wired on to the steering wheel . how do I connected to the engine?
All the switch does on the engine is ground the signal going to the coil to the engine. So all you need to do is wire the kill switch to do the same thing. If your kill switch has one wire you need to connect it to the small wire that leads to the coil(not the spark plug wire) and then ground the switch to the frame. If the new kill switch has 2 wires, the long wire will connect to the coil the same as mentioned before and the short wire will ground to the frame. Good luck.
The engine is universal. It can be bought and used on a lot of different machinery. Rototillers, waterpumps, sod cutters, air compressors etc.. you get the picture.. Because mini-bikes and Go-Karts are really the only applications that require a clutch, all engine Mfgs including Predator / Harbor Freight do not sell their engines with clutches. Plus there are different clutches available that can be used on the same go-kart/mini-bike to achieve different engine performance characteristics. The clutch I used can he found by clicking the link in my video description... Thanks for the question..
Where did you get the clutch for the keyway? Im building a 2/5th scale tank and I need an engine for it and I dont know what the hell Im doing... Can someone plz help me out?
I definitely will when I get another Go Kart in here.. Right now I am working on a Travel Trailer and it is taking up all my time. I don't normally work on Go Karts as far as project builds but I have been looking for another one at the equipment auction I go to monthly. Thanks for the comment and keep watching my videos I hope to get a Kart on here soon..
I know this is an old video but ALWAYS ALWAYS put a kill switch on a go kart. Growing up I had the throttle hang wide open on me a # of times on different models. The 1st nearly put me through a barb wire fence before I got it off. Even if your not worried about it for yourself or you feel confident in your own children's abilities one day it might end up in the hands of a kid that will NEED that switch.
Well I couldn't find a bullet connector with Y so I just disconnected the oil sensor and left it disconnected and just plugged in the kill switch wire to there it comes unplug from the factory and wha la thank you very much love the predator
Kill switch is important, if the throttle sticks it's hard to keep steering and reach around and hit the on/off switch for the motor. A 10 year old may not have the presence of mind to kill the engine from the motor. Mount a kill switch where it can be easily accessed on the steering column. You addressed it in your video but then dismissed the idea. 96K viewers have seen this video. It's your child... wire in a kill switch
I agree. If I had a 10 year old... But at the time of filming my kids were 16 and 17... Plus, not only would 2 throttle return springs have to fail But, the drum brakes would have to fail completely too. At full speed with throttle wide open the kart would still come to a dead stop almost as quickly as no throttle being applied. What the video didn't show is the new buyer advising me he didn't need the kill switch for his kids either. Ultimately it's a parents of the riders choice. Thanks for the comment.
I just got the same motor from harbor freight in Missoula, Montana 1-05-2016..... I paid $129.00 for it. Also the 212cc has the claim of 6 1/2 hp... I'm going to use mine on a golf cart rear end in my go cart with a 20 series clutch from ebay.
TrinidadRM in the video I show the linkage. Also I discuss how the friction washer had to be removed from under the throttle lever.. Make sure you wire in a kill/saftey switch so your kids can shut down the engine if the throttle gets stuck wide open..
I just scored a really sweet go cart frame. I think I'm gonna have to run by Harbor Freight and grab one of these engines. Thanks for the video.
Cool, Thanks , Have fun
@@Foxboss9 where did you get the frame from?
you can hook the kill switch up to the low oil sensor wire that runs up to the magneto..
Limb bizkit:rolling playing in the background nice
SHhhhhh! Don't say it too loud. TH-cam will block my Video.. :-)
Really?!? It's background noise lol
Yep, my camper video that I installed a Sony stereo I had to delete all the audio off of that one. Also I had a moped ride that it I was filming and had anthrax playing during the ride I had to delete all that audio too. Oh well.
Dang....I have the same engine on my mini bike and I'm trying to find out how to make it more quite cause of my neighboors
Good luck with that. The stock muffler is one of the more quiet ones that I have heard. Not sure how to improve on it.
How did you change the rope pull from the front to pull from the back ?
I bought and sold the exact same engine a few years ago. When Honda discontinues a particular model, they let the patents expire. If I remember correctly they were balanced, had very little if no vibration and extremely quiet... just like a Honda actually. I don't think there was a single one returned either. Of course I couldn't advertise them as "Honda", but for the money I was able to buy them, and sell them for, they were better.
Thanks for the support!
+BMI Karts Us Ohioans gotta stick together!!
the harbor freight engine are bad ass.. I put the 13 hp one on my chopper trike.. great deal at 349.99 for 420cc.. better than what I had on it...
That's cool, I'd like to try the 13hp one for a future project.
Nice video. I bought my daughter a go kart here recently for Christmas with a Tecumseh engine. HS-50 to be exact. had to replace the clutch. Tire, wheel and sprocket which i got all in one for $45 bucks in Ohio. I replaced the points,condenser,plug but now i am having a hard time keeping her running. engine runs but doesn't run if you get what i mean. Point of this you showed me what a good motor that is and once this motor goes that will be next to be installed.
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I got a go kart with the same engine on it and to be honest it’s complete trash. It was a 5hp and it’d start but if it stayed idling it’s just die so I’ve decided on buying one of these predator motors and believe me it’s for the better. There’s a reason tuchumsen doesn’t exist anymore their motor are garbage. Plus you’ll get a lot more fun out of the predator. They are only like 100 bucks if you’ve got a coupon and 120 without it. Totally worth the buy.
If you ever end up owning that thing than go on Amazon and buy one of those Chinese torque converters. They are cheap but they work just as good as the American made ones and they will make that go cart really rip. It also gets rid of all of the clutch noise and stuff too. I put one on my minibike with basically the same engine that you have and if you are sitting to far back on it and you give it WOT from a standstill you will flip over backwards.
Good to know. I had a large Manco Dingo Duece that had the Tork - a- verter on it. Huge performance gain.
The item number will vary depending if it is set up for California emissions or not. The number given may not apply to the engine you buy.
I bought an old Murray explorer frame that had a Tecumseh 6 that was shot for $100. bought the 6.5 motor from Harbor freight $150. Direct bolt up. Removed the oil level sensor cut off wire and done. I can Throttle high or low.
+David Edwards awesome.. gotta love that
thanks for the video, i have the same go cart frame 2.5hp briggs. just ordered the same engine as you did plus new clutch. my 10 year old and i will have a fun project.
honestly just subbed cuz in the beginning you were playing limp bizkit
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Cool video, I was wondering how that engine would work on a go cart. I'm going to put it on a rebel cart tomorrow.
I expect, you'll like it.
I put a Predator 212 cc on a Chinese 2 wheel drive mini atv..frame. Centrifigal clutch 7 or 8 teeth and reused rear sprocket, about 40 tooth. Some easy frame mods with welder and tossed the Chinese plastic "body fender" stuff. This sucker flies although gear ratio is for "fast" so starting out from stop I have help it a bit since I am 200 lbs. Never have opened it up as it feels like I will go airborne...I call it the Doom Buggy. Good engines I have 3 for various applications
You need to post a video of that for sure!
Foxboss9
It is on my channel in a video of sighting in my rifle but not featured or seen close-up. It is not a show piece but it runs. It seems there is some kind of minor fix needed from time to time but that is only because it is "custom" and the frame etc were abused in another life. I wanted something like this when I was a kid but never had one. Here I am at 60 and finally have my Doom Buggy (kind of neglected my Harley for a while, for shame!)! I would not let a kid this ride it without helmet and proper attire though, definitely not a toy.
cravinbob That thing has gotta fly, It's tiny.
How did you get the belt pulley off the old engine? Mine looks rusted and will not come off the drive shaft
Some of them do rust and won't come off. Unfortunately You will need to buy a new pulley and cut the old one off with damaging the crankshaft too much.. Good luck.
I had to completely disassemble and reassemble this engine for my comprehensive technology class. Unfortunately, the rpm was too high because the governor was placed too high up.
Too bad about the governor adjust. But, it's cool you got to play around with the engine for a class assignment!
For my intro to mechanics class we rebuilt a 205cc Briggs n Stratton motor and I did the same thing
Those governors if not adjusted can be the downfall of the engine real quick if you don't shut them down in time. Just remember,with the linkage connected, and the throttle plate wide open, the governor gets adjusted as far as it can go in the same direction as it took to open the throttle plate. After you've done it a hundred or so times you don't even have to think about it.
Yeah +foxboss9
so my problem is that on mine when i start it it just wants drive away on its own. is there a better clutch i can use
daxter561 lower the Rpms at idle so it's not engaging the clutch.. If it is already a low/factory idle and the clutch is still engaging either install heavier springs in the clutch or buy a higher rpm one both can be found at BMI Karts.. Tell them you saw the video on TH-cam and I said for you to call them.. Good luck..
Do they all have to have a clutch?
I just got the exact same frame from A friend. Was looking for ideas and I think I found it. Predator 212
Awesome looking cart I can't wait to build one! Only motor I have now is a vertical shaft so I guess i'll sell it
Thanks! Yeah, Best to have horizontal shaft. Vertical can be done but MUCH more difficult.
Question my wheel moves with out me pressing the gas paddle ? It’s a new predator engine also ? Can u help me figure it out why does it run with out pressing pedal ?
Idle is too high on engine... It's engaging clutch too soon
that throttle cable bolt at 8:00 is called a banjo bolt
Nice nuts and bolts storage I love it
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Just bought a used cart for the grandkids, came with little 5hp Subaru , plenty on top end once you get it rolling but will not climb uphill even with a small load? any adjustments to look at before I start replacing parts? Motor starts super easy and sound good just no pulling power
Kerry forga gear ratio and clutch rpm engagement... The engine has to be at Optimum rpm when the clutch engages... Tire size and tooth count on both sprockets has to match what you want the kart to do..
Please forgive me if I'm asking a question you've already answered. What is your painting process? Do you use spray cans, brush, power spryer? I'm in the process of finishing up an old go kart. Thanks
That is the first time anyone has asked... I used "rattle can" spray paint. Make sure to wipe down really well with a solvent of some type like mineral spirits. (I use brake cleaner) Then use a a really good primer and decent spray paint OR in my case I used really good spray paint without primer.. I am a huge fan of Valspar Tractor and implement spray paint. It goes on even, it has great self leveling properties, it dries fast and shiny, and a couple of coats makes it hard to chip. Here is a link - - amzn.to/1L83Fzu
the downside is that the colors are limited.
Is that the throttle or the speed setter? If I understand correctly, the speed setter indirectly controls the throttle via the governor.
Throttle cable connects to throttle plate control lever. The linkage on the lever is also connected to the governor..
Great video! I have a question if you'd be so kind. I have this same motor, but the sprocket on the gokart seems to be quite large so the motor will have to be lifted on a fabricated mount system OR I could change the sprocket to something smaller in diameter. Which would you recommend?
Shannon Lewis spacer for the motor..that is If you are happy with the current sprocket(gearing). If you change the sprocket make sure the pitch is correct for the chain and that it is a compatible tooth count to match the other sprocket. As far as mounting it on a spacer try some good quality hardwood first to make sure all is good then you can machine something more permanent later.. sometimes I end up leaving the hardwood on.. good luck
You slightly rotated the starter handle to accommodate your mounting point?
Question I just added mine on a go kart but my pulls moves once I turn it on y is that? Yours engine is on moves only when throttle is pull mine doesn’t ?
You either have a bad clutch or you have it too tight or your RPMs are too high on engine
Harbor freight has two 6.5 hp's Item#69727 or 69730. Do you know which you used and what the difference is? Did you have to take links out of the chain or put spacers under the engine? I'm replacing a B& S 135212 on a manco starbird go cart,looks very similar to what you did. If the clutch and base bolt on,I just have to play with the throttle cable.
Not sure you will have to rewatch the video and look on the box for the number...
No spacers were used to mount engine except heavy washers. chain was made to length..
Thank you for sharing that video. I went and bought the same engine but now I can't find a clutch locally. What kind and where did you buy that clutch u installed. Thanks for your help
Never mind sir. I see you have all the information in the description. Thanks a bunch for your very informative video.
Joe Contreras you got it! Thanks!
I have same go kart body. Did you have to move tweak any thing to get the chain in place to the cluch and sprocket..??? Plz answer I'm thinking of buying the engine.
No BUT, The holes on the frame may have to be enlongated to allow for enough movement to allow proper alignment.. Good Luck
Thank you very much . I don't want to cut any wires so can i disconnect the coil wire and put a splitter bullet connector?
absolutely. That's what I would do.
Nice job!
Wondering... can the pull start housing on this engine be rotated aft (to the left looking at it) to make it easier to start when it's mounted to the kart?
Also what's your sprocket and tire ratio?
Building a kart for the grandson.
Best.
Thx
What a cool Grandpa..! The recoil can be rotated. I have no idea of what that ratio was for suggestions based on tire size, weight, horsepower you might want to contact BMI Karts.. Good luck..
hey I am purchasing a go-kart that has all the tires being slicks and i wanted to know if they would be fine to drive around my neighborhood. I know you can not drive them in the rain and that is fine but I just wanted to know how they would run, wear, and work. most important thing I want to know is how long they will last if I drive an average of 10 mins a day because I had a previous go kart that had tires with tread that were meant for lawn mowers and they wore out within 2 weeks and completley poped. the speed is about 25mph please answer
TechMultiview100 Man I wan't to give you a good answer but it's all relevant..
I would suspect the lawn and garden tires compound was more for turf as most are...but if your alignment was ok and the cart didn't weigh much and the driving was reasonable, then I would think they should have lasted a lot longer than 2 weeks.
The slicks are made for asphalt/concrete but the smoothness of the driving surface can vary greatly. So, to answer your question on how YOUR tires on YOUR kart that YOUR driving on YOUR streets are going to last and taking in consideration the karts weight, alignment, suspension, engine HP, aggressiveness of driving and also surface temperature and etc etc.. ,,,, I cannot even fathom a guess. I will say, that with the slicks, you should notice better cornering ability for sure. as far as longevity,,,, hard telling.. good luck
Foxboss9 thanks for the thourough reply
I used this same predator engine on my manco 606 go kart and it improved drastically. I love the engine, especially for the price. what cutch system did you use on this kart? I'd like to know because I am planning on using the same engine on a street kart build.
I was impressed too.. see the parts list in the descrpition
Excellent video, I am currently in the same boat and this video helped a ton. Was wondering what clutch you bought for it. I love the way you painted. Great work. Please if you can give me some info on the clutch. Thanks again.
In the description
ahh Limp bizkit's roll'n oh boy..... Nice:) kart looks like fun I had a manco dingo go-kart myself with the stock tecumseh powersport motor that only needed a cable, and a new carb, thing fired right up, it was a 6.0, man that thing was a beater..... It was a 1995
I got a question my tire sprocket I went smaller how well that affect the go kart I need help before I cut my chain
I hooked up a 13 hp 420cc predator to my new kart :)
Go Fast for sure
Was wondering what clutch you used and where you got it I'm doing a 3 wheel bike soon and the centrifugal clutch would be perfect
No Problem. check out the description.. And for a quick video of my last three wheel project click this link .. th-cam.com/video/QwA8688Eoc8/w-d-xo.html Thanks for watching..
I'm having a lot of trouble with the throttle. I changed the washer and loosened the arm.
hello would you know what size washer you bought for the throttle and what size bolts did you use to mount the engine to the go cart frame
MoNsTeR_KaMiL Bolts to mount engine were 7/16 self tapping that I had left over from a riding mower. the washer was something else I had lying around. the only things I could recall that were specific to this engine that I bought , I listed in the description.. sorry.
This is awesome mostly because I'm getting a gokart with this exact engine
Benjamin Smith I think you'll be happy..
my son has a carter with a cage and where the chain is on the far right side and i need to know kind of clutch setup is it??
+emily gannon could be a variable belt drive to chain or a standard clutch which is what I have on this cart.. You May want to check with BMI Karts...just google them..
I have a honda xr2500 and i want to buy a clutch to mount in on a small dirtbike but the shaft doesnt have a way to put in a bolt to hold it in any ideas??
Instead of cheap clutch should have put a torque converter on it .
Mike Thomas 2 reasons not to... 1) I was reselling it.
2) I would never install a tork-a-verter or any other variable drive on a non-live axle cart..
These yard carts only go for about $375-450 in this region.. $120 for the new engine... $75 for the new tires.. And then add the cost of a live axle conversion and finally the variable drive.. And I would have an asking price over $600 to make the same profit I did selling this at $425 And, the cart was only in my possession for 3 days total.. Adding those extra components would have made the "flip" of this unit take an additional day. And that's only "if" I was able to get a buyer at a much higher price.. NOW, if I was to keep it I would have done the axle conversion and variable drive plus there a lot of other things I , Like suspension, bigger tires, disc brakes and Exhaust..
Hey bro, I have a question, but first let me say Thanks! Your videos I've watched helped tremendously. So, Can a kill switch on the 6.5 Honda Clone get locked in the Off position causing the connection to the coil to stay broke and not deliver spark needed? Thanks again!
+Hardball Hall Thanks!! I won't say that it isn't possible but, it is likely either. If you suspect an issue with the Switch just disconnect the ground portion of the switch (2 wire) if it is a one wire just unbolt/unscrew the switch from the mounting position(1 wire).. If there is a low oil shut off sensor on the engine . try disconnecting that too to make sure it isn't bad..good luck
+Foxboss9
It's a 6.5 Honda clone. only a year old. I've found the problem, clogged carb! Im the one who clogged it too! I guess I let something get in the carb when I reassembled it, don't take much at all to clog those jets. You mentioned an oil sensor. If there was one on mine where would it be? And thanks again, This Endeavor has made me like it, I've taken apart everything I got that runs on gas! lol! Thanks again;
Hardball Hall If equipped it would be a small metal box about the size of 2 starburst candies and have a wire entering into the block close to where the oil level sits at..
I know this is an old video but I have to replace the chain too and does it matter what chain to get?
Hey 👋🏽 loved the video very informative. But I did want to know how do you connect the ignition cable to the engine ?
If you're talking about the kill switch it goes directly to the coil and it grounds the input wire. That's the small wire that's on the coil not the spark plug wire.
What tires do you have on that kart? I have the same frame but need wheels. how fast was that kart? If you remember thanks
Sorry, I don't recall tire size. I bought them at TSC(tractor supply). As far as speed, maybe 25mph. That depends on so many factors. Rider weight, engine rpms, tire size and most importantly gearing. If you were to set up your kart for top end speed only with a lightweight driver I would think 45 MPH would be obtainable. Good luck!
what did you use to paint the kart? rattle can or compressed air
Do you have a washer on the crank bolt. I saw the link for the bolt but wasn't sure if there was a washer involved also.
There is a washer on there but its one that I already had. Its not a special washer it just had to be a hardened washer.
Much appreciated.
I think the washer I used was from a 1978 Mustang Cobra 302 harmonic balancer bolt washer. Or washer from harmonic balancer bolt on 1975 460 from a Lincoln Towncar.
Does it make any different witch direction a centrificula clutch turns (CCW or CW) for it to work ??
No, either direction.
Predators are also on Amazon, but they're like $130
Where can I get this wheel set. I have the same frame but with the wheel set I have the clutch rubs the tire if the motor is not lifted
You can buy new wheels online from BMI Karts .. Or if you slot your holes on the frame pad where the engine mounts and buy a longer chain you can move the engine forward so the clutch doesn't hit, As long as your wheel set isn't really huge.
Cool buggy. So I just need to get that $20 clutch and attach it to my Baja Dune 150? I think the motor is shot in mine
I'm trying to build a small go kart i live in a small town and i want something i can sneek in the woods but anyways what do i need to build a basic go kart besides the engine and brake and throttle such as transition or etc i see that you have that black sprocket thing attacked to the engine is that all the basic i would need is that and the engine ?
The black thing is a clutch.. It is a critical part.. The easiest way to get a cart built is to buy a old one needing repaired or buy a frame and go from there..
i have a farm I'm going to use i just am looking for a motor to use one it i plain on using a kid kettle kart
would you know if a 12 tooth clutch would be good going on a 40 tooth sprocket or should i get a 10 tooth clutch on the 40 tooth sprocket
MoNsTeR_KaMiL All depends on RPM's, tire size , weight of kart, weight of rider, what kind of terrain you'll be riding on, Pavement top speed, or more torque for hill climb/stop go..too many variables for me to answer..
excellent motor i have 2 of them its a honda clone . predator engine i have had both my engines for 2 years now . with no problems at all
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Great! I just bought one today for my go kart. Hope it's a good one!
you will be happy with this engine a lot of people Kasen Alley are afraid of it because its cheap price . but its a great engine
Did you engine come with the bolt that holds the clutch on? Mine did not come with one do you happen to remember what size bolt you used, length and size?
5/16-24 X 1.5" HEX BOLT
Awesome thank you.
no problem.. go with grade 5 or higher
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I recently bought the same engine for my kart. Did you have any trouble starting it? All fluids are good, I set the engine switch to ON, choke on, and gas on, and still won't fire up. Any suggestions?
michael hipol mine fired up in 3 pulls.. Check for spark by spraying a couple short burst of carb cleaner/starting fluid in the carburetor directly.. If it tries to start then you know spark is good.
Took your advice, it was the spark plug. Thank you!
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Hey man I just wanted to say THANKS for that tutorial on removing the friction washer. I thought I was screwed but this engine bolted onto my MURRAY with an old beat up tecumseh I dicked with that engine for 2 - 3 hours before I just said fuck it went to harbor freight and got this engine. It bolted up bolt for bolt and everything was perfect. shortened the throttle cable and BOOM brand new awesome running engine that starts on the first pull.
Awesome!
How many teeth does the sprocket you use to have? I bought a 60 tooth sprocket and I'm afraid it may be too much.
I don't remember what I had on there.. You may want to try it. You'll be surprised how much you can learn from experimenting with different drive combinations.
good job i hope it works out well
Hey I got my car to run and now its burning rubber like crazy where did you get those tires at?? are they a 10 by 5 inches
Tractor Supply had them on the shelf..
Hey im doing a motorized bicycle project and saw this engine and was wondering if it would fit in a medium to large bicycle frame.
I'm not sure. It is awful heavy so even if it fits, plan on welding reinforcement support.. Good luck.
+NIck Carswell (KK6NNC) these are to bike i have tried to mount them you need to get a gruube skyhawk engine
It all depends on what engine they are copying this week.
Just wondering what type of clutch did you get for the chain???
+Erik Melendez In the description
Hello, my friend , where Ihave clutch like this in mortor in machanice
I want to connect a kill switch I bought the same motor at Harbor Freight the go kart frame that I have came with a kill switch wired on to the steering wheel . how do I connected to the engine?
All the switch does on the engine is ground the signal going to the coil to the engine. So all you need to do is wire the kill switch to do the same thing. If your kill switch has one wire you need to connect it to the small wire that leads to the coil(not the spark plug wire) and then ground the switch to the frame. If the new kill switch has 2 wires, the long wire will connect to the coil the same as mentioned before and the short wire will ground to the frame. Good luck.
By the way yours is a 6.5 horse I just bought the same one today
Heey i was wondering if you would kniw where the kill switch wires would join onto on the motor?
How long did it take to come in because I orderd one and it’s taking for ever
The inventory fluctuates during different times of the year... Covid has made things slow down too..
2:28 *SPANISH* 😅👍 i have one go kart, works good... Thanks...
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I have the same exact motor from harbor freight also and I put it in my gokart
is it fast?
Did the engine come with that clutch or did you have to buy one seperate?
The engine is universal. It can be bought and used on a lot of different machinery. Rototillers, waterpumps, sod cutters, air compressors etc.. you get the picture.. Because mini-bikes and Go-Karts are really the only applications that require a clutch, all engine Mfgs including Predator / Harbor Freight do not sell their engines with clutches. Plus there are different clutches available that can be used on the same go-kart/mini-bike to achieve different engine performance characteristics. The clutch I used can he found by clicking the link in my video description... Thanks for the question..
Reluctant Couch It doesn't come with one but you would have to order it from a go kart shop or off line
Reluctant Couch you must buy one separate if you get it from harbor freight
Where did you get the clutch for the keyway? Im building a 2/5th scale tank and I need an engine for it and I dont know what the hell Im doing... Can someone plz help me out?
All parts needed are in the description. Click the link.
Oh Thx :)
Where do you find sprockets? And what is the gear on the motor shaft?
Nick Davis BMI karts link is in the description
Can you do a step by step on installing the motor and making it go?
I definitely will when I get another Go Kart in here.. Right now I am working on a Travel Trailer and it is taking up all my time. I don't normally work on Go Karts as far as project builds but I have been looking for another one at the equipment auction I go to monthly. Thanks for the comment and keep watching my videos I hope to get a Kart on here soon..
Kk thanks I'll keep watching :)
I know this is an old video but ALWAYS ALWAYS put a kill switch on a go kart. Growing up I had the throttle hang wide open on me a # of times on different models. The 1st nearly put me through a barb wire fence before I got it off. Even if your not worried about it for yourself or you feel confident in your own children's abilities one day it might end up in the hands of a kid that will NEED that switch.
Well I couldn't find a bullet connector with Y so I just disconnected the oil sensor and left it disconnected and just plugged in the kill switch wire to there it comes unplug from the factory and wha la thank you very much love the predator
That will work too. Just keep an eye on your oil levels before riding.. Have fun.
I just found a go kart for my grand son. Where'd you get the seat cover?
it came with the frame... try BMI Karts www.bmikarts.com/Seat-Cushion_p_1245.html
Have you had any trouble with taking corners and it shutting down?
has anybody done I build with a predator V-Twin from Harbor Freight on a dune buggy
disconnect the oil senser
though i ask have This engine in my go kart turns off when i panic stop or turn either way did u even figure out why
Kill switch is important, if the throttle sticks it's hard to keep steering and reach around and hit the on/off switch for the motor. A 10 year old may not have the presence of mind to kill the engine from the motor. Mount a kill switch where it can be easily accessed on the steering column. You addressed it in your video but then dismissed the idea. 96K viewers have seen this video. It's your child... wire in a kill switch
I agree. If I had a 10 year old... But at the time of filming my kids were 16 and 17... Plus, not only would 2 throttle return springs have to fail But, the drum brakes would have to fail completely too. At full speed with throttle wide open the kart would still come to a dead stop almost as quickly as no throttle being applied. What the video didn't show is the new buyer advising me he didn't need the kill switch for his kids either. Ultimately it's a parents of the riders choice. Thanks for the comment.
Make a diy “snowdog” video with that engine!
I just got the same motor from harbor freight in Missoula, Montana 1-05-2016..... I paid $129.00 for it. Also the 212cc has the claim of 6 1/2 hp... I'm going to use mine on a golf cart rear end in my go cart with a 20 series clutch from ebay.
+Robert Stark you will like the way it runs..You will know it by the way it sounds as soon as you start it up..have fun..
Do you know what clutch it was you put on it? Maybe a part number or a link?
In the description
where abouts is that on the motor?
sorry i dont know that much because i got it given to me by a friend :/
I put this on my kids go kart tonight. How do I get the throttle connected?
TrinidadRM in the video I show the linkage. Also I discuss how the friction washer had to be removed from under the throttle lever.. Make sure you wire in a kill/saftey switch so your kids can shut down the engine if the throttle gets stuck wide open..
Hey, any benefit to not using a torque converter?
Torq a verter is more expensive than just a clutch BUT is much more fun. You get low and top end! I prefer Torq a verter if I have the extra money
does anyone know if this engine will fit under a golfcart seat? (main concern is the height)
It will but I don't belive it has adequate torque for a golf cart.. You may want to look at an 8hp..
I put one of these I might go kart really nice motor for the money
They are nice aren't they
Does harbor freight sell clutches or maybe pep boys or northern tools?
Andrew Wray maybe northern tools BUT I have a link for the clutch in the video description..
Foxboss9 thanks
That clutch you put the link to comes with a chain?
No chain with clutch. You'll need to buy one that is the right length for your set up.
Thanks
Thank you! Great video!
You got it..
Didn't have to replace friction washer just loosen up the nut a lil .
I was afraid of the nut coming completely off from vibration. I don't recall was the nut a NylonLock nut?
Not sure I just loosened it up a lil & works perfect -
Good deal.
I also put a heavy duty clutch because the cheap ones can't handle the motor
im a first time go kart bulider can u make a video on how to put the engin on the go kart plz
Brandon Marshall sorry I dont have any here at the moment.. If I get one in I'll try to..
Foxboss9 thanks
I have a frame that could fit this engine. is it worth the money?