Just today a friend loaned me her I Ching book as I wanted to see what it was all about. Turns out it was the Wilhelm/Baynes book, then I “accidentally “ came across your video which I very much enjoyed . Thank you!
I was happy to receive the following comment and correction about the Chinese coins used in the above presentation. I am adding it here to be accurate and am grateful for the information, but don't let it throw you. Decide on Yin and Yang and then stick with it. "I saw your TH-cam video on casting coins to do a Yijing reading. Did you know that your "yin" side is actually the "heads" face of the coin (hence yang). Note also that it has four Chinese characters--not four "groups"--that say "coin of the realm of the Xuantong emperor"(r. 1906-12) and the back is in Manchu (so, not "characters", but words))." I thank the writer of this note.
💗😊💕Thank you so much for making it so much easier. I just started learning about I Ching. Looks like to further simplify the minority rule: “2 become 1” and “1 become 2”, or “duality to singularity” and “singularity to duality”, or precisely how I see the yin & yang pendant I wear around my neck--it shows two but it is encompassed by the circle around, holding it together as one. And I like that how you teach it-as no need to count them up and then think is it odd or even? (like how I watched and learned in another video yesterday). Your way, causes less thinking/calculating and you can quickly complete and look up its meaning. Thanks again. LOVE and LIGHT to ALL💕😊💗
I first learned about how to do I Ching from an old booklet I found from the 70's. It actually teaches this method exclusively. When I tried looking up more tutorials, I was really confused by all the talk of adding all these numbers together. While I'm sure there's some kind of numerological reason people do it that way, this "minority rules" method is far easier to comprehend and remember.
I liked this video very much! I have to do a seminar on Richard Wilhelm and Carl Jung tomorrow, which is going to involve a I Ching divination, so this is just what I needed to brush up.
I pulled this up because I’m looking at coin divination and this came back in my feed just from looking at it and hearing you talk about it you seem very knowledgeable and I heard you mention that the book was written in 1968 or that you have been doing this since 1968 either way I really enjoyed this video and I gave it a thumbs up thank you for your time
Mo Abdelbaki If we have any other further questions what’s the easiest way to email you do you have a website? You do have a website I just emailed you thank you for your time
this was a great refresher. I also use Wilhelm/Baynes. But it has been many years since I decided to pick up my I Ching. Thank you for a great visual lesson. Now do the yarrow sticks.
Yea i do it the other way around (regarding heads and tails) because it jist feels and looks like the side with the 2 characters on it is the back. It even has a character that looks like a B on it so idk i went with what i felt there but good to know it can be either way
I’ve been scolded more than once for saying that the side of a Chinese coin with four markings is the yin side and the side with two markings is the yang side. I’ve been okay with this, as I’m fine with being wrong, but I’ve been wondering why I’ve thought this for the past 56 years. It occurred to me that it must have something to do with the beginnings of my studies in the I Ching. With that in mind, I decided to go to my original source, namely the Wilhelm/Baynes version of The Book Of Changes, and went to the appendix that deals with the coin oracle. That’s where I found the following: “The inscribed side counts as yin, with the value two, and the reverse side counts as yang, with the value three. From this the character of the line is derived.” Since I was a teen in a small town when I first read this, there wasn’t a chance of me finding a Chinese coin, so I used pennies, but I did go to the library and take a look at Chinese coins in books, and there I saw pictures of them and noticed that one side was inscribed, usually with four markings, and the other side was inscribed with two marks, or sometimes not at all. Following Wilhelm’s instructions, I therefore considered the side with two markings, or none, yang and the other side yin. I’d forgotten I’d done that until I read the above passage. So there it is and with that in mind, I stand by my original decision on which side of the coin is yin and which is yang. If it was good enough for Richard Wilhelm and the Taoist Monk who helped him with his I Ching scholarship, it is most certainly good enough for me. The key is consistency. So whatever works for you. The oracle knows what you mean.
Thank you, Nick. Alas, I haven't gotten to any more videos yet, but I do have some ideas for helping in interpretation, as I see it, and so on. If all goes well, I"ll get it done.
Great video on the mechanics! I am wanting to purchase some I Ching coins. Are there different designs? I've seen Tibetan coins and Chinese coins. Do you only need three coins of the same design/nationality? Thanks.
Thank you. You can use any coins at all. I've used just about everything, including Australian Pennies which have Kangaroos on one side. All you have to do is determine which side is Yin and which is Yang and go from there. I considered the Kangaroo side Yang, as it was active and in motion, but you can do anything you like. It's all about consistency. Have fun with it!
Thank you. The coins are presumably Chinese coins. I bought them at World Market about 30 years ago. They're all over the internet for sale, though. However, you can use any coin you'd like.
Hi Mo Thank you for a clear and to the point - simplyfication video for I Ching. Made "I Ching - Richard Wilhelm translation", which was a gift from a friend, a bit more applicable, sort of... Got questions cause it´s a "Book of confusion" for the time being. Hopefully you can clear out the confusing elements: 1. How do you decide where to put marking (x or dot) on the line? Or how do you know it´s there? 2. I do understan 3 Yin or 3 Yang lines (i hope) but how do you know if it´s a 6 or a 9 in whichever place it may be? 3. Does a person reads only a judgment and the image after changing lines (and no other text in that hexagram)? If so, why? Thank you in advance
A year late is better than never, I hope. Each side of a coin has a numeric value. Tails equals 2 and heads equals 3. Hence, 3 heads equals 9 and 3 tails equals 6. 9 is a moving Yang line and 6 a moving Yin. You can actually mark them any way you want, but convention puts an X between the space of the broken Yin line and a dot, or circle, on the moving Yang line. You will read the moving line after reading the hexagram, then go to the changed hexagram and read the Judgement. It takes practice, but in time will make sense. Keep at it.
I’ve seen set of stick where some are black and some are white, I’m assuming for yin and yang. But how do you decided what color goes on top? Black or white? Thanks for the video! Removing the numbers made it sooooo much easier!
Hi Salvador. I'm not familiar with the sticks you've mentioned, but I'll hazard a guess that it has to do with the position in which they fall and then placing them in order from bottom to top. That's how I'd use it for sure. I'm glad you found the video useful.
I love your explanation. However I am still confused on the lines. In particular I mean the six and the nine where it says something like nine at the beginning means nine in the second position means nine in the fifth place means OK, so what does nine mean and how do I know what place it’s in? And the same for six? I have apparently missed something in the explanation
Hello Ray. The term, 6 in a place means that the line is considered to be "Old Yin." Likewise, 9 is "Old Yang." This means that the three coins tossed were either 3 tails (Yin) or 3 heads (Yang). The term "old" refers to the state of a line right before it transforms into its opposite. In reality, you don't need to worry about this. In the actual use of the oracle, you'll read lines that will change, those being all heads or all tails, ie. 6 or 9s. So, if you toss 2 heads and a tail, it's a yin line, but if you toss 3 yin lines, it's going to become a yang. This is why I try to make it a bit less confusing. If I've only made it worse, please let me know here and I"ll explain more.
The only way that Qian can change into Kun is if every line is moving. Personally, I've never seen it in my 50 years of I Ching casting. If all the lines change, it's considered to be an immensely good omen. I would read it as great good fortune coming for which one must be ready to be receptive to. Does that make sense?
Hi thanks a lot very nice explanation. There is something called the meridian conversion using the Bagua in acupuncture balance method Somehow people are not telling what it is openly. Is there a book which can tell something about that? In India no one is teaching that.
I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with that acupuncture system. However, the Bagua can be used in almost anything. It's quite flexible. Thank you for your kind words. I hope you find a good source!
I don't know whether you'll see this because the video is from quite some time ago but what's your opinion on the "modified 3 coin method" as Wikipedia calls it where you have 2 of the same coins and 1 different ones?
I have had my I Ching for perhaps 4 years and avoided using it out of fear and some confusion. I have a memory of hearing that it can "answer" or counsel even if you don't ask a question; like picking up on your mood or current situation. I just did my first casting because of your video's clear instruction -- Thank you -- but I did not ask a question, i just tried to approach the I Ching with respect, with honor; inherently I had a sense of need too. Do my efforts and the resulting hexagram(s) count for anything when consulting the I Ching in this way, where no question in particular has been asked? P.S. I also had opened to a random page (no casting of coins and no question; it was prior to finding your video) with a sense of wanting help or guidance of some sort. Can that be a useful approach (done very sparingly)?
Hello. Yes, there was undoubtedly some sort of wisdom to be gained from the hexagrams you cast. Don't stress over it, but do mull it over and you'll find some bit of wisdom that will clarify something. As for the book, yes, I do that all the time. Bibliomancy has been around for centuries and it works well with the I Ching, especially with the Wilhelm/Baynes version. His commentaries are truly brilliant and often carry great clarity. Although many only count the Yarrow Stalk odds when finding a hexagram, I've discovered that the I Ching is always talking. Any attempt to listen will result in some new knowledge, regardless of how it's approached. That's been my experience over the decades. Thank you for your comment and your question.
Hi Mo, thank you for a great video. However, I did not understand the following; you say that after the first cast that you only read lines 3 and 4. Does this mean that only "old/moving" lines are relevant and all other lines are irrelevant? What happens when there are no "old/moving" lines in a cast? Thanks:))
The only lines read are moving lines. If there are no moving lines, the hexagram doesn’t change. This may or may not be problematic, depending on the situation. You should be able to tell.
When I took mushrooms I saw that all choices are laid out before me and that one was the same as the other. I wonder if sometimes this sort of thing is to just to satisfy our doubting mind.
Further inspection of the hexagrams should reveal that they are all different, although some do have similarities with others. That is the strength of the system. When the moving lines are introduced, each reading will be quite unique. They certainly can satisfy a doubting mind. That is why they exist, to turn doubt into certainty.
My pleasure. The book is, "The I Ching, or the Book of Changes," by Richard Wilhelm, translated by Cary F Baynes. There are many, many books out there, but this is the one I prefer.
@@MoAbdelbaki Thank you =) I just ordered it. I took a two-day iChing class last month, and this book will greatly help me in understanding the hexagram. Your way of reading the coins is much the same as in our class, but we call the "Old Yin and Old Yang" as "Active" lines meaning that they will change too. But what we didn't do the numbers. Thank you so much Mr. Abdelbaki =)
This was so clear and to the point. My only question is…. So what do you do with the numbers? For example after making my hexagram my numbers added up to 45. First roll- 8 2nd-7 3rd-7 4th-7 5th-7 6th-9 That’s assuming I did it correctly 😁
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@@evelinerathie9857 So true, Richard. I'm definitely wordy and over stated. I am probably a nut case, too. Yet, for those who get lost in the process, it seems to help. Thank you for your comments.
I suggest the book by Richard Wilhelm, The I Ching or Book of Changes, although there are many more that are quite good. You will end up with many; trust me.
2 yin lines 1 yang equals a yin line . a broken line.2 yang lines 1 yin equals a yang line.a unbroken lines.3 yin equal a broken changing line.3 yang equal a unbroken changing line. if you have say six in the 3rd place.you read that changing line.
If that's how you wish to do it, please do so. My way is accurate, and yours will be, too, as long as you're consistent. If each yin, in your example, equals 2, and the yang equals 3, then the line adds to 7, which is a yang line. However, as I said, it really doesn't matter. It's what works for you.
I’ve addressed this below. Of course, the terms head and tails are generic terms that mean nothing for Chinese coins. Choose one, follow it, and you’ll be fine. Please don’t let me confuse me. Go with what makes sense to you. Sorry for the confusion.
I thought that the changing ying become an unchanging yang and the changing yang an unchanging an unchanging ying. Or rephrased, the x line become an unbroken line and the doted one become a splitted line. My understanding is that changing line are converted into their opposite.
I always thought you read the moving lines even in the 2nd reading? i'm still going to. If they're moving in the first hexagram why wouldn't you read them in their opposite moving line?
Any lines in the oringinal casting of thw hexigram that add to 9 or 6 written with o or x are called mooving lines...........this mean that line not only has an extra little meaning but that there will then b another whole hexigram to look at......ie the 6 will now become an 8 the x is no longer relevant...the line has moooved from _x_=6 to ...._ _=8 there for if at least one line or two or sometimes 3 or 4 lines are the 3 sames side of the coins ie 6or 9 you have one hexigram reading changing into another.......But wen a reading/hexigram Has no x or o the simply is no mooving lines therefor no second hexigram
I'm sorry I didn't see your question earlier. You don't read them in the final hexagram because it's your destination. The "changes" themselves are the conditions that bring about the resolution. However, if you find it works reading them, why change?
Thanks for your very useful explanation. I’m new to this. One thing that didn’t make sense was that fish and pigs are the least intelligent of animals. Simply not true. Pigs are actually on an intelligence level similar to dogs. Do you think this is a transition error?
Nope. It isn't a mistake in translation. It was an opinion held at the time. It certainly isn't my opinion. My dad was a Veterinarian and pigs are incredibly smart and can certainly reason. This was a cultural idiom, if you will. I have no idea if the bias is still held, but it's not meant to be taken at face value. I hope that helps. There are many such idiomatic phrases that will raise the hackles of the modern reader, but the key is to get through the initial response and find the meaning therein. I hope that helps.
It represents the situation before change comes into play. It provides insight into the present, but also defines the general energies. Each moving line gives specific information for how the change shall occur, with the second hexagram showing the outcome.
If I said that 2 yang and one yin become yang, then I was mistaken. I'll have to take a look at it. Obviously, if the toss is 2 yang and one yin, then it is, by the minority rule, a yin line. Can you please tell me at what time mark this occurred? Thank you.
i have read the entire i ching .the wilhelm ,jung translation.there is nothing said about old yang ,old yin,minority rule.where did you learn this way.
Hello. It's actually the Wilhelm/Baynes translation. Jung wrote a forward. There is a discussion regarding old and young yin and yang. Take your book and begin at page 721 and read until 724. There you will find the concept of old and young yin and yang, and why 2 yins and one yang equal yang, and 2 yangs and one yin equal yin. The term, "Minority Rule," is mine, but it does make it much easier. I learned the process from Wilhelm, and he is said to have learned from a Taoist. I hope this helps.
I think I know what you mean. I agree. I've known people who've been unable to make a decision without it. Not healthy. The oracle will teach us as we use it, meaning reliance is not necessary. Good point.
Go with what you feel most comfortable with. My presentation is correct as far as the numbers go, but if you like the way your book puts it forth, no harm! It really doesn't matter as long as you're consistent.
You couldn't make it more complicated if you tried. It's actually way easier just to add the numbers. And you should stop saying "most people would agree" This is just like saying "people are saying" This long drawn out ramble is ridiculous.
KAY! Tank Youse. (I can however, pronounce Arabic fairly well.) I do apologize for my lack of proper pronunciation, luckily it works either way. Thank you for your observation. Take care.
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Philip K Dick brought me here :) thanx for wonderfull explaining how to cast i-ching.peace and love to you Mo
Peace and love to you.
Just today a friend loaned me her I Ching book as I wanted to see what it was all about. Turns out it was the Wilhelm/Baynes book, then I “accidentally “ came across your video which I very much enjoyed . Thank you!
Have fun with the oracle. I think you'll come to love it.
I was happy to receive the following comment and correction about the Chinese coins used in the above presentation. I am adding it here to be accurate and am grateful for the information, but don't let it throw you. Decide on Yin and Yang and then stick with it.
"I saw your TH-cam video on casting coins to do a Yijing reading. Did you know that your "yin" side is actually the "heads" face of the coin (hence yang). Note also that it has four Chinese characters--not four "groups"--that say "coin of the realm of the Xuantong emperor"(r. 1906-12) and the back is in Manchu (so, not "characters", but words))."
I thank the writer of this note.
Your is the most easy to understand after reading so much clips 🎉. Many thanks ❤
I’m glad it helped.
Awesome tutorial. Very simple easy to follow. Thank you for this!
***** My pleasure!
Sir, very well explained, with an exceptional narrator voice 🌟
Thank you.
This is a very simple, elegant method. Thank you.
Thank you and you're quite welcome.
Thanks Mo. Great explanation. I used the I-Ching years ago and needed a refresher on how it works. Well done.
I'm happy it helped.
Amazing so simple to understand thank you so much! I tried it straight after and it was easy for me to replicated and got the clarity I wanted.
Thank you. I'm happy you found it useful.
Great explanation of the mechanics! Thank you! Best of seen
Thank you.
I love the bounce as the quarters fall. Such a nice little touch that probably drove your editor crazy. But it was so well executed.
Thank you!
You are a great teacher, thanks from Portugal :)
Thank you so much.
Thank you for a great tutorial! I understand it very clearly.
So welcome, Emma.
Thank you so much for the information in this video, Sir. I appreciate your help and wisdom as I approach I Ching for the first time.
Thank you, Chris. It's my pleasure to help.
@@MoAbdelbaki I appreciate the quick response, Sir! No worries!!! I appreciate the inspiration!
💗😊💕Thank you so much for making it so much easier. I just started learning about I Ching. Looks like to further simplify the minority rule: “2 become 1” and “1 become 2”, or “duality to singularity” and “singularity to duality”, or precisely how I see the yin & yang pendant I wear around my neck--it shows two but it is encompassed by the circle around, holding it together as one. And I like that how you teach it-as no need to count them up and then think is it odd or even? (like how I watched and learned in another video yesterday). Your way, causes less thinking/calculating and you can quickly complete and look up its meaning. Thanks again. LOVE and LIGHT to ALL💕😊💗
Wonderful!
Great tutorial. Thanks, Mo!
You're very welcome.
such a wonderfully clear explanation thank you.
Thank you. It is my pleasure.
Hey this is great! Love your animations!!!
Thank you, Leon!
Thank you for teaching us this easy method. I will be using it going forward.
It's my pleasure and I"m glad it helped.
I first learned about how to do I Ching from an old booklet I found from the 70's. It actually teaches this method exclusively. When I tried looking up more tutorials, I was really confused by all the talk of adding all these numbers together. While I'm sure there's some kind of numerological reason people do it that way, this "minority rules" method is far easier to comprehend and remember.
I'm glad it made sense!
Thank you sincerely.
You're quite welcome.
I liked this video very much! I have to do a seminar on Richard Wilhelm and Carl Jung tomorrow, which is going to involve a I Ching divination, so this is just what I needed to brush up.
Thank you. I'm happy it was useful! Synchronicity is real.
I pulled this up because I’m looking at coin divination and this came back in my feed just from looking at it and hearing you talk about it you seem very knowledgeable and I heard you mention that the book was written in 1968 or that you have been doing this since 1968 either way I really enjoyed this video and I gave it a thumbs up thank you for your time
Hi Bill. Thank you for your comment. I first ran into the I Ching in 1968. The book is older.
Mo Abdelbaki If we have any other further questions what’s the easiest way to email you do you have a website?
You do have a website I just emailed you thank you for your time
I was tossing the coins while you were explaining the procedure and I got Chung Fu... Synchronicites lately...
A good hexagram for all on a path. It works.
thank you. i finally know how to do this correctly!
I'm glad it makes sense.
Sir, your "minority rule" insight has helped me so immensely. I appreciate this video and your work! Thank you!!
I'm glad it helped.
this was a great refresher. I also use Wilhelm/Baynes. But it has been many years since I decided to pick up my I Ching. Thank you for a great visual lesson. Now do the yarrow sticks.
My pleasure!
Very good explanation.
I'm glad you found it helpful.
very clear to follow
Thank you.
Thanks for the tutorial! This should help me to better explain the process to a friend of mine.
You're welcome, Eric. Yes, teach it to others!
thanks Mo! excellent
You're most welcome!
I love your humor 😂💜
Thanks!
Thank you. Blessings
I'm glad it helped. Blessings to you, too, and thank you.
very well done thanks!
Thank you, Alex.
Great patient lesson. I wish he would make some more videos on divination.
What sort of divination are you interested in. More I Ching?
Great tutorial - Thanks so much!
I'm glad you liked it.
I just started learning couldn't get my head around what book says. Your video has really helped thank you.
I'm happy to have been of help.
You may find a better book .
Thank you
My pleasure
Yea i do it the other way around (regarding heads and tails) because it jist feels and looks like the side with the 2 characters on it is the back. It even has a character that looks like a B on it so idk i went with what i felt there but good to know it can be either way
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I’ve been scolded more than once for saying that the side of a Chinese coin with four markings is the yin side and the side with two markings is the yang side. I’ve been okay with this, as I’m fine with being wrong, but I’ve been wondering why I’ve thought this for the past 56 years. It occurred to me that it must have something to do with the beginnings of my studies in the I Ching.
With that in mind, I decided to go to my original source, namely the Wilhelm/Baynes version of The Book Of Changes, and went to the appendix that deals with the coin oracle. That’s where I found the following: “The inscribed side counts as yin, with the value two, and the reverse side counts as yang, with the value three. From this the character of the line is derived.”
Since I was a teen in a small town when I first read this, there wasn’t a chance of me finding a Chinese coin, so I used pennies, but I did go to the library and take a look at Chinese coins in books, and there I saw pictures of them and noticed that one side was inscribed, usually with four markings, and the other side was inscribed with two marks, or sometimes not at all. Following Wilhelm’s instructions, I therefore considered the side with two markings, or none, yang and the other side yin. I’d forgotten I’d done that until I read the above passage.
So there it is and with that in mind, I stand by my original decision on which side of the coin is yin and which is yang. If it was good enough for Richard Wilhelm and the Taoist Monk who helped him with his I Ching scholarship, it is most certainly good enough for me. The key is consistency. So whatever works for you. The oracle knows what you mean.
Please do more videos on this ❤
I’m so lazy! I’ll try.
Great and clear tutorial, thank you! You hint at other videos on the I Ching, and besides the 6 coin method, have you done any other videos?
Thank you, Nick. Alas, I haven't gotten to any more videos yet, but I do have some ideas for helping in interpretation, as I see it, and so on. If all goes well, I"ll get it done.
Awesome. I look forward to furture videos!
thanks
My pleasure.
You're welcome.
Great video on the mechanics! I am wanting to purchase some I Ching coins. Are there different designs? I've seen Tibetan coins and Chinese coins. Do you only need three coins of the same design/nationality? Thanks.
Thank you. You can use any coins at all. I've used just about everything, including Australian Pennies which have Kangaroos on one side. All you have to do is determine which side is Yin and which is Yang and go from there. I considered the Kangaroo side Yang, as it was active and in motion, but you can do anything you like. It's all about consistency. Have fun with it!
very helpful, thank you. What kind of coins are in the picture?
Thank you. The coins are presumably Chinese coins. I bought them at World Market about 30 years ago. They're all over the internet for sale, though. However, you can use any coin you'd like.
@@MoAbdelbaki Thank you very much, Sir :)
Hi Mo
Thank you for a clear and to the point - simplyfication video for I Ching.
Made "I Ching - Richard Wilhelm translation", which was a gift from a friend, a bit more applicable, sort of...
Got questions cause it´s a "Book of confusion" for the time being.
Hopefully you can clear out the confusing elements:
1. How do you decide where to put marking (x or dot) on the line? Or how do you know it´s there?
2. I do understan 3 Yin or 3 Yang lines (i hope) but how do you know if it´s a 6 or a 9 in whichever place it may be?
3. Does a person reads only a judgment and the image after changing lines (and no other text in that hexagram)? If so, why?
Thank you in advance
A year late is better than never, I hope. Each side of a coin has a numeric value. Tails equals 2 and heads equals 3. Hence, 3 heads equals 9 and 3 tails equals 6. 9 is a moving Yang line and 6 a moving Yin. You can actually mark them any way you want, but convention puts an X between the space of the broken Yin line and a dot, or circle, on the moving Yang line. You will read the moving line after reading the hexagram, then go to the changed hexagram and read the Judgement. It takes practice, but in time will make sense. Keep at it.
I’ve seen set of stick where some are black and some are white, I’m assuming for yin and yang. But how do you decided what color goes on top? Black or white? Thanks for the video! Removing the numbers made it sooooo much easier!
Hi Salvador. I'm not familiar with the sticks you've mentioned, but I'll hazard a guess that it has to do with the position in which they fall and then placing them in order from bottom to top. That's how I'd use it for sure. I'm glad you found the video useful.
I love your explanation. However I am still confused on the lines. In particular I mean the six and the nine where it says something like nine at the beginning means nine in the second position means nine in the fifth place means OK, so what does nine mean and how do I know what place it’s in? And the same for six? I have apparently missed something in the explanation
Hello Ray. The term, 6 in a place means that the line is considered to be "Old Yin." Likewise, 9 is "Old Yang." This means that the three coins tossed were either 3 tails (Yin) or 3 heads (Yang). The term "old" refers to the state of a line right before it transforms into its opposite. In reality, you don't need to worry about this. In the actual use of the oracle, you'll read lines that will change, those being all heads or all tails, ie. 6 or 9s. So, if you toss 2 heads and a tail, it's a yin line, but if you toss 3 yin lines, it's going to become a yang. This is why I try to make it a bit less confusing. If I've only made it worse, please let me know here and I"ll explain more.
so if you throw the coins and get no moving lines x~o，you only readf both present and solution answer off 1 hexagram?
Exactly.
Does the hexagram Qian automatically change in to Kun then? Also how would you do this "reading" since the hexagrams are polar opposites?
The only way that Qian can change into Kun is if every line is moving. Personally, I've never seen it in my 50 years of I Ching casting. If all the lines change, it's considered to be an immensely good omen. I would read it as great good fortune coming for which one must be ready to be receptive to. Does that make sense?
Hi thanks a lot very nice explanation. There is something called the meridian conversion using the Bagua in acupuncture balance method Somehow people are not telling what it is openly. Is there a book which can tell something about that? In India no one is teaching that.
I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with that acupuncture system. However, the Bagua can be used in almost anything. It's quite flexible. Thank you for your kind words. I hope you find a good source!
xD when he said Gesundheit
I don't know whether you'll see this because the video is from quite some time ago but what's your opinion on the "modified 3 coin method" as Wikipedia calls it where you have 2 of the same coins and 1 different ones?
I've used it. It works, too. Use whatever you like. No matter what you use, you'll find that the oracle will speak to you. Excellent question!
I have had my I Ching for perhaps 4 years and avoided using it out of fear and some confusion. I have a memory of hearing that it can "answer" or counsel even if you don't ask a question; like picking up on your mood or current situation.
I just did my first casting because of your video's clear instruction -- Thank you -- but I did not ask a question, i just tried to approach the I Ching with respect, with honor; inherently I had a sense of need too. Do my efforts and the resulting hexagram(s) count for anything when consulting the I Ching in this way, where no question in particular has been asked?
P.S. I also had opened to a random page (no casting of coins and no question; it was prior to finding your video) with a sense of wanting help or guidance of some sort. Can that be a useful approach (done very sparingly)?
Hello. Yes, there was undoubtedly some sort of wisdom to be gained from the hexagrams you cast. Don't stress over it, but do mull it over and you'll find some bit of wisdom that will clarify something. As for the book, yes, I do that all the time. Bibliomancy has been around for centuries and it works well with the I Ching, especially with the Wilhelm/Baynes version. His commentaries are truly brilliant and often carry great clarity. Although many only count the Yarrow Stalk odds when finding a hexagram, I've discovered that the I Ching is always talking. Any attempt to listen will result in some new knowledge, regardless of how it's approached. That's been my experience over the decades. Thank you for your comment and your question.
So you count from the bottom up? And not from the top down right?
That's exactly right. Think of it as building a house. It's built from the bottom up.
Hi Mo, thank you for a great video. However, I did not understand the following; you say that after the first cast that you only read lines 3 and 4. Does this mean that only "old/moving" lines are relevant and all other lines are irrelevant? What happens when there are no "old/moving" lines in a cast? Thanks:))
The only lines read are moving lines. If there are no moving lines, the hexagram doesn’t change. This may or may not be problematic, depending on the situation. You should be able to tell.
i found the i ching book very old. a bantam new age book stock on the library of my father by sam reifler.
Hi Dexter. Who is the author?
Sorry! You said Sam Reifler. I'm not familiar with his version but will give it a check.
Yes
When I took mushrooms I saw that all choices are laid out before me and that one was the same as the other. I wonder if sometimes this sort of thing is to just to satisfy our doubting mind.
Further inspection of the hexagrams should reveal that they are all different, although some do have similarities with others. That is the strength of the system. When the moving lines are introduced, each reading will be quite unique. They certainly can satisfy a doubting mind. That is why they exist, to turn doubt into certainty.
Alright? Alright! Okay? Okay! Simple? Simple! Alright? Alright! Okay? Okay! Kay? Kay! Okay! So simple that it is simple - Okay? Okay!
Alas, I seem to have offended you. I do beg your pardon. Good luck to you.
What's the name of the book that you have mentioned? Thank you so much for sharing =)
My pleasure. The book is, "The I Ching, or the Book of Changes," by Richard Wilhelm, translated by Cary F Baynes. There are many, many books out there, but this is the one I prefer.
@@MoAbdelbaki Thank you =) I just ordered it. I took a two-day iChing class last month, and this book will greatly help me in understanding the hexagram. Your way of reading the coins is much the same as in our class, but we call the "Old Yin and Old Yang" as "Active" lines meaning that they will change too. But what we didn't do the numbers. Thank you so much Mr. Abdelbaki =)
@@curiosity19 You are quite welcome!
This was so clear and to the point. My only question is…. So what do you do with the numbers? For example after making my hexagram my numbers added up to 45.
First roll- 8
2nd-7
3rd-7
4th-7
5th-7
6th-9
That’s assuming I did it correctly 😁
Hi Kristi. Thank you. I suggest you watch the video again. No need to add up the numbers.
Which I ching book did you mention.. thank you
The I Ching or Book of Changes by Richard Wilhelm translated by Cary F. Baynes
Mr. Yeeng & Mamma Yayng
It's the Tao of Baseball!!
There are only 4 possible outcomes:
Yeeng, two Yeengs and a Yayng.
Either way, Giants win tonight!!
Canoe all the way to the shore, Superman!!!
if you wanted to keep it simple should just used quarters.
That's so true. Pennies, dimes, whatever. They all work perfectly.
NO SHIT,,,,,THIS BOZO took somthing easy and made it almost incomprehendable...besides, how many people own chinese coins ?
@@richardlarive3372 Exactly - could it be made more complicated? I don't think so. This guy is a wordy over stated nut case.
@@richardlarive3372 Bozo for sure! Thanks for recognizing the fact.
@@evelinerathie9857 So true, Richard. I'm definitely wordy and over stated. I am probably a nut case, too. Yet, for those who get lost in the process, it seems to help. Thank you for your comments.
what book do you use please?
I suggest the book by Richard Wilhelm, The I Ching or Book of Changes, although there are many more that are quite good. You will end up with many; trust me.
2 yin lines 1 yang equals a yin line . a broken line.2 yang lines 1 yin equals a yang line.a unbroken lines.3 yin equal a broken changing line.3 yang equal a unbroken changing line. if you have say six in the 3rd place.you read that changing line.
If that's how you wish to do it, please do so. My way is accurate, and yours will be, too, as long as you're consistent. If each yin, in your example, equals 2, and the yang equals 3, then the line adds to 7, which is a yang line. However, as I said, it really doesn't matter. It's what works for you.
why does it say "nine in the first place" or "six in the third place" or whatever? where are those random numbers (nine, six, etc.) comming from?
Sorry all the other images online say that the yang side (2 Chinese chacaters) is the tail. Your video says the opposite. I am confused
I’ve addressed this below. Of course, the terms head and tails are generic terms that mean nothing for Chinese coins. Choose one, follow it, and you’ll be fine. Please don’t let me confuse me. Go with what makes sense to you. Sorry for the confusion.
I thought that the changing ying become an unchanging yang and the changing yang an unchanging an unchanging ying. Or rephrased, the x line become an unbroken line and the doted one become a splitted line. My understanding is that changing line are converted into their opposite.
You are correct.
After listening to this, yarrow stalks seems easier
Different odds, for sure.
I always thought you read the moving lines even in the 2nd reading? i'm still going to. If they're moving in the first hexagram why wouldn't you read them in their opposite moving line?
Any lines in the oringinal casting of thw hexigram that add to 9 or 6 written with o or x are called mooving lines...........this mean that line not only has an extra little meaning but that there will then b another whole hexigram to look at......ie the 6 will now become an 8 the x is no longer relevant...the line has moooved from _x_=6 to ...._ _=8 there for if at least one line or two or sometimes 3 or 4 lines are the 3 sames side of the coins ie 6or 9 you have one hexigram reading changing into another.......But wen a reading/hexigram Has no x or o the simply is no mooving lines therefor no second hexigram
It is impossibe to have the extra reading of mooving lines in the second hexigram because they have now changed into non mooving lines
If that works for you, do so. It's about how you interact with the oracle. Making up your own rules is perfectly fine.
I'm sorry I didn't see your question earlier. You don't read them in the final hexagram because it's your destination. The "changes" themselves are the conditions that bring about the resolution. However, if you find it works reading them, why change?
Thanks for your very useful explanation. I’m new to this. One thing that didn’t make sense was that fish and pigs are the least intelligent of animals. Simply not true. Pigs are actually on an intelligence level similar to dogs. Do you think this is a transition error?
Nope. It isn't a mistake in translation. It was an opinion held at the time. It certainly isn't my opinion. My dad was a Veterinarian and pigs are incredibly smart and can certainly reason. This was a cultural idiom, if you will. I have no idea if the bias is still held, but it's not meant to be taken at face value. I hope that helps. There are many such idiomatic phrases that will raise the hackles of the modern reader, but the key is to get through the initial response and find the meaning therein. I hope that helps.
@@MoAbdelbaki thanks. It is a book of change after all.
@@iamg07 Indeed!
What’s the point of the first hexagram you find
It represents the situation before change comes into play. It provides insight into the present, but also defines the general energies. Each moving line gives specific information for how the change shall occur, with the second hexagram showing the outcome.
Mo Abdelbaki thank you for clearing it up. Been trying to do a reading of my own
My pleasure.
four characters is YANG and codes as HEADS if using western coins.....
Yes, this has been covered in a previous comment. In reality, it matters not. What is important is consistency. Thanks for your input.
I don't have any coins with me in the hotel.... but I have 3 condoms. I'm gonna use those the same way others use chinese coins
As long as one side of the package can be seen as different than the other, it should work.
the decission of which side is heads and which side is tails can change the outcome completely; doesn`t make any sense
How is two yang and one yin become yang ? 3+3+2=8.
If I said that 2 yang and one yin become yang, then I was mistaken. I'll have to take a look at it. Obviously, if the toss is 2 yang and one yin, then it is, by the minority rule, a yin line. Can you please tell me at what time mark this occurred? Thank you.
i have read the entire i ching .the wilhelm ,jung translation.there is nothing said about old yang ,old yin,minority rule.where did you learn this way.
Hello. It's actually the Wilhelm/Baynes translation. Jung wrote a forward. There is a discussion regarding old and young yin and yang. Take your book and begin at page 721 and read until 724. There you will find the concept of old and young yin and yang, and why 2 yins and one yang equal yang, and 2 yangs and one yin equal yin. The term, "Minority Rule," is mine, but it does make it much easier. I learned the process from Wilhelm, and he is said to have learned from a Taoist. I hope this helps.
Just beware of I Ching addiction
I think I know what you mean. I agree. I've known people who've been unable to make a decision without it. Not healthy. The oracle will teach us as we use it, meaning reliance is not necessary. Good point.
I was given 3 coins by a man who said they were "Japanese Nickels". They both have the squares cut out and they look different from these.
Any coins will work.
Some Japanese coins do have the squares also, that's what I'm using.
@@stehfreejesseah7893 They'll definitely do the job, as long as you can tell the difference between one side and the other.
@@stehfreejesseah7893 Maybe I should do some interpretations. Thanks for the suggestion.
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LOL! Vielen Dank.
I still don't get it
Try giving it another go. It's not a natural process and it takes some time and practice to make sense of it. I'm sure you can get it.
The book I have says: 2 Heads & a tail are Yang! Two tails & a head are YIN!
Go with what you feel most comfortable with. My presentation is correct as far as the numbers go, but if you like the way your book puts it forth, no harm! It really doesn't matter as long as you're consistent.
Pigs are smarter than dogs
It depends on the pig and the dog, I think.
How the feck is this the simple version lol
For those sho end up doing it incorrectly, it is simpler, but I do get y our point. Correctness is not always easy.
youare confusing
You couldn't make it more complicated if you tried. It's actually way easier just to add the numbers. And you should stop saying "most people would agree" This is just like saying "people are saying" This long drawn out ramble is ridiculous.
Thanks for your comment, Eveline.
definitely not straightforward
It's pronounced (Mr. Annuciation) *YEE JING* - you cannot pronounce so many of the phonetics that it is NOT OKAY! KAY?
KAY! Tank Youse. (I can however, pronounce Arabic fairly well.) I do apologize for my lack of proper pronunciation, luckily it works either way. Thank you for your observation. Take care.