actually a good review, i dont plan on buying either bike but it told me where each bike shines, unlike a lot of the motocross reviews where (particularly recently) they tell you what each bike does badly. i would much rather they show where the bike shines and who would be a good fit on it. you guys nailed that
@@rmatvmc Please help with video export settings and best way to keep your quality when uploading to youtube! Your videos look great and no matter what quality i film in mine do not turn out well! Please Pm
I laugh at the idiots that call Honda better. Those are the Honda kids that are brainwashed to 1 product and never try anything else. In truth, they are both excellent bikes, and I'd rather save $1,000 and buy the Yamaha. If Honda would sell at the same price, then it's just a color preference.
Ya the reliability of yammys and Honda's is unmatched..go to vintage races all mostly yzs quite a few elsinores. Which only a few were sold compared to rms and yzs..from '76 to '82..but there they are still rolling..sadly the rms were the cream of the class inmost instances but rattled themselves to death and it's a dam shame
Great unbiased review of two very viable bikes. I enjoy the ktm and the husky as much as anyone else, but it's nice to see something besides how great orange is.
Nice you mentioned the vibration. There's a lot of people with carpal tunnel or other problems that might really appreciate that tip most ignore. That or like me want something you can just take it for joy ride all day and aren't racing and you want to reduce fatigue as much as possible. I've been kind of looking for one that's really smooth and vibration free without going to 4 wheels. Be real nice to see that input on all your videos. Thanks!
With the GYTR tuner you can make that FX hit hard down low, make it soft off the bottom or rip up top as well. And starting next year you'll be able to do it from your cell phone.
I haven’t ridden dirt/enduro bikes for a decade but keep a keen eye on what’s happening. Into adventure stuff as I’m heading to my mid 50s(Africa twin) but I must say it’s refreshing to have you talking the bikes through as you are riding and comparing attitudes and sounds. No biased views from what I heard and give your review a BIG thumbs up.👍
Awesome unbiased review. Between the two I would get the Yamaha. Although I loved my crf250x; and if the RX is anything like that it would definitely be a great bike. I was in the market last year and when it came down to it, I went with the KTM. You can find left over models for almost the same price. Having all 3 brands in the past KTM's build is at a higher level. The hydro clutch alone is worth the couple hundred dollar OTD price tag. I would say KTM is a few years ahead. Although I wold he content with any of them.
I'm born and raised Honda, but until they take making an off-road bike seriously I'm stuck with KTM/Husky. 2 stroke, clear tank, 6 speed, hydraulic clutch, great brakes and a semi close transmission. Oh and let's not forget the huge weight savings.
Sam Thompson hey why don't you have a look at the other European bikes? Gasgas, beta and sherco are taking shares even if the orange bikes dominates in European forests.
@@simonsryd1 I've ridden GasGas 300s before, as my brother and cousin both owned them. They were good bikes but I disliked their forks and the feel of them, stink bug feel with really soft forks. The air filter was an epic PITA to get in and out. Also they don't have the support network here and let's not forget they are like 20lbs heavier than the competition. Betas are good but they are small and their 300s engines have a snooze worthy feel to them, too electric, linear and boring. The cockpits feel really cramped like they are made for 5'6" people, where huskies/KTM feel nearly identical to Honda. I'm impressed with Sherco, they seem like great bikes (never ridden one), but can never see myself going back to a non-counter balanced two stroke, they are simply too good.
I have the CRF250RX, main riding buddy has a 2018 YZF250FX (beautifully set up), we agree that the YZF is the better go slow, trail riding, riding at a relaxed pace versatile choice...... BUT.... if you want to go fast, you want to race, then you want the Honda, the Honda is a bit stiffer, feels more aggressive and makes you want to attack and ride fast, very fun bike. I could be happy with either bike, but I bought it to race, so the Honda was the right choice for me, I love my new CRF250RX!!
BC Offroad riding thanks for the info on your buddy FX. I'm prepping a yz250f as an hare scramble machine. I like the aggressive nature of the motocross bikes
As far as the softer suspension (yamaha) that's why have clickers/adjustment - dial in the suspension for your style/weight or terrain. Many factors to consider when dialing in suspension. As most of us know YZ KYB is pretty much as good as it gets.
The only dirt bike I've ever seen seize was a KTM 125 2 stroke my brother got in a trade it was supposed to he a fresh top end and he made it two laps around our track and the motor seized.
This is so so cool, I would love to see the exact same video with the 450 bikes. Both the WRF and the YZFX against the CRFRX would be sweet! Thanks for sharing the video guys, this was awesome and very informative!
Having ridden both of these bikes, I would say the Yamaha wins the day simply on the ability to lug stupid low in first gear and having better ratios and more gear selection available than the Honda. The Honda pulls a little harder in the lower rpm range, but the Yamaha feels much stronger from 3rd gear up. The Yamaha feels lower and more agressive to me. Very plush and predictable. Both great bikes, but I prefer the Yamaha. On a side note, the Honda I rode had issues restarting when hot. The Yamaha was flawless and ran perfectly right out of the box.
Yeah Yamahopper is as durable as it gets, im a red bike guy but blue is better right now. Its better than all of em.....it goes in cycles. I am 50....when i was a kid it was Jeremy McGrath on honda and jeff ward on green....long time ago, but Yamahaw always had the clinch your ass permagrin midrange that was the badass brand. It was the MOPAR of bikes, the Nazareth of classic rock. I live em all.....btw i have a honda cause dammit i like em and they have that comfy feel.....yamaha has that "oh shit, i may have f'd up feel" 😐 but make no mistake, Suzuki is the champ for the working man guy that wants to go fast, yellow is coming back soon.
It is kind of interesting. In one riding area i liked the YZ grunt better, but in another I was loving the CRF better. I have come to the conclusion that both work well and each shine a little better than the other in certain situations. - Justin
Nice, I really enjoy head to head competitions. Especially when comparing apples to apples. Well done. I can not think of another instance when you can compare these two side by side.
Great review - thanks Justin! Great content for both bikes. Would like to see you update the versus with the 2020 models, now that Yamaha has made some great updates.
For anyone considering the two bikes I have to say that the Yamaha is very plush and is great in tight single track and with a few clicker adjustments it has PLENTY of hold up and you can charge just as hard. You can race either bike in my opinion just comes down to personal preference and feel. Glad to see Honda come out with an awesome off-road bike though 👍🏻
The Honda pulled away in 5th gear because it was designed to have a total of 5 gears. (duh) Yamaha didn't need 5th gear to be that fast cuz they put a 6 speed in it. I feel crazy for having to explain this. The new Honda is nice but I would take the Yamaha. The transmission is the deciding factor between these two bikes in my opinion
This is really helpful. And what an incredible area to ride. Your videos are consistently superb. Good luck and thanks a million. I'm in Eastern Canada with an 07 525 EXC and thinking of a lighter bike as I'm almost 62 now.
Rocky Mountain ATV MC they are! I’m up in northern Utah and being new to riding I’m still trying to find all the good places to go. Im guessing this is around st George judging by all the red rock and plateaus
I tell myself 4 strokes aren't that bad, and don't get me wrong these are really nice bikes and I couldn't say no to one if handed to me, but 2 strokes still reign supreme for the super technical stuff, and just all out fun, in my opinion.
Awesome review and thanks for the info. I ride a CRF250X but I’m getting into off road racing. It sounds like if I keep my CRF250X then the Honda is the way to go because I’ll still have a trail bike, but if I’m trading I might go Yamaha because it could do double duty
Thanks. keep in mind that both will do double duty. Both bikes are fantastic - I am just being picky. If the Honda proves to be as reliable as my brothers' FXs have been, both are winners! - Justin
It really doesn't have to do with anything other than personal preference at this point. No matter what you're ending up with a great bike, and it's really just up to personal preference.
Very nice Review. It helped me understand the differences and now that I know the Honda has a 5 speed Tranny...I may be sticking to KTM...but again...great review!
At least the Honda with its 5 speed can be more suited for dabbling on the motocross track every now and then. Differentiates itself from the yam and KTM that way. More options for the consumers!
yeah i have had alot of bikes i had a 2012 250 exc and that was the most awful thing ever on the track the suspension was awfull had to set it to the stiffest every time and that wasent even enough the best all around bike is either 2002 cr 125 that thing was awesome in both woods and track i had it 4 a while or i bike i own right now rm 250 from 2007 i own a 450 aswell atm but i dont ride it as much
You can do it on the fly on the WR and the Wr has a better suspension pretty much the same bike though as the Fx yz I’ve got the 2023 it’s Awsome can do anything on it
Are their dirt bikes that much better than their 4 wheelers then? Or you call years as 3 years tops from factory production? Personally my 01 Honda still bangs off the first touch of the starter. So kind of wandering why you're specifying Yamaha when I've watched my old 97 Honda I had keep running for the 7 years I owned it after my friends brand new 07 Yamaha had quit running and needed total overhaul. I think i put one spark plug in once on the Honda for good measure and nothing but gas and oil other than that. Just thought I'd throw my personal experience in. Also i bought a Yamaha rhino 660 that my old Honda outlasted. Actually I've had many Honda's and only worked on them twice. Once the starter quit and had to clean out old gas once which will happen to anything. Personally I've just had a lot of bad luck with my Yamaha and seen my friend and a friend's uncle have lots of bad luck with theirs too. Out of probably 25 four wheelers etc my friends and I have all had we've all together only had like 5 Yamaha between us all and all 5 had problems some time or another and nobody had one over a couple years. But all the Honda's we rode until we were just bored of it and sold it. So I guess I've had the exact opposite of you with my experience and I've owned a lot of machines since about 1994 when i started riding. I take that back about all the Yamaha. Only good Yamaha I've seen was an old 89 or so big bear 350. That Yamaha was great and reliable. What Yamaha you got and how long you had it? I'm curious cause I kind of want another dirt bike and the slower 1st gear is attractive but I'm nervous about Yamahas after all that bad luck I've seen and had personally. Is their wr250 super reliable compared to other Yamaha? What I've been looking at nervously. Not a ton of options for good off road worthy, small, light, bikes that are street legal.
This was a great review. The RX has a close ratio transmission which is why many desert racers I know will not buy it over the Yamaha or other off-road centered bikes. I also wish Yamaha and Honda would put on a hydraulic clutch.
Not only has Yamaha been nominated as the best manufacturer, but best reputation when it comes to dirt bikes. Yamaha has a wide variety of dirt bikes ranging from YZ125, to WR450F. This variety of dirt bikes is valuable as you can find any size with any amount of power to suit you and your riding style. Having owned a dirt bike, I know how difficult it is to maintain your bike and keep it running well. Especially for someone who is not familiar with how to change the oil, oil filters, transmission fluid, air filters, etc. Yamaha is your best bet as it is the most reliable dirt bike brand rated by Goliath, and other well accredited websites regarding dirt bikes. This means that your bike will break down less, and ride for much longer than other bikes. Others will have a specific brand in mind that they think is better than Yamaha, but you just can't beat the facts. Yamaha has won 39 world championships, including 7 in MotoGp and 10 in the preceding 500 cc two-stroke class, and 1 in the World superbike. This is proof that Yamaha is not only the most reliable brand of bike, but that the power and speed in these bikes is not something to disregard. Yamaha is known for its power, and great suspension. Making it a great bike to take off road and on single track. The suspension is incredibly valued by dirt bike riders while it is a fantastic advantage in handling and riding on the dirt. If you are looking for your first bike, or your 20th bike, go to Yamaha. You will have 0% regret in your decision. Ride on!
This is the first time I'm noticing this but you can see the video stabilization feature on the camera because you can see the helmet bounce around but the video dosnt shake,or it's a special mount but it looks nice
When is team green gonna get into the off-road scene?!! Need them to get back into the 2 stroke scene to battle ktm and husky. Bought a 18 gasgas xc250 cause I wanted something different. Glad I did cause it came with a hydraulic clutch, FMF exhaust, magura brakes, electric start, 6 speed wide ratio transmission and Excel rims for $6,600 and its frickin awesome...last model on the floor. Wouldve bought a Yamaha but they just won't install a electric start and still is only a 5 speed. Just need more options without the extreme price tags...
Come on guys, we all know that the Yamaha's and the Honda's are awesome, we need some different stuff you need to cover, like the GPX FSE 250's or something. I know it's Chinese, but recently Ever-ride covered one of them and was impressed. I just want more information and more opinions on the bikes.
I have a 2015 crf250 that's I've put 3 years on. I'm not a fan of the air forks when riding in rocks, even after getting them revalved. I also don't like that the power gets a bit flat when your wringing it out. I'm thinking the RX might be a better bike for me for riding 50/50 track and trail.
The Yamaha is the only bike to get for 4 reasons. 1. 6 speed transmission, this makes it way more versatile, top speed is over 80 mph. 2. Better low end power, it makes good power from the first crack of the throttle. 3. Only one exhaust silencer, you're 50% less likely to damage a silencer in a crash, and cheaper to buy an aftermarket silencer. 4. KYB SSS forks are awesome.,
Comparing these two bikes has always been questionable to me. I'm a desert racer/offroad racer myself and the thing that bugs me the most is that your comparing apples and oranges. The crf250 and 450 Rx are not an offroad bike, they are more towards a gp or worcs bike at the most. Because those races are still more of a motocross style race then an offroad style race like hare and hounds, hare scrambles, enduro's. The Rx to me is a motocross bike with an 18in rear wheel. It doesn't have a wide ratio gearbox it use the same transmission as the motocross bike and the suspension is much stiffer still to absorb the bigger jumps, and what the guy said about it staying up in the top of the stroke is better. That is not a good suspension setup there is 12in of travel why would you only want to use it all. That setup will beat you to death in an offroad race. I raced a 2010 yz450f for many years and trying to get it setup for offroad was difficult. I just recently bought the 2019 yz450fx and the suspension was a bit stiff still even for it being softer then its motocross brother. In the rocks the causes it to deflect off rocks and makes it very difficult to ride in those sections. So I changed to a softer fork oil and now it's perfect and I hammer through whoops and I'm using the full range of the suspension and it handles perfectly. The fx style bikes are very good offroad bikes and that's why a lot of offroad racers have switched to them. They have wide ratio gearboxes, 18in rear wheel, better power delivery for offroad and a better suspension setup. If you want an offroad style honda then buy the 250x or 450x.
Not many, the notable changes for the 250FX came in 2020 and I would say that bike is definitely worth the upgrade if you are looking to. I'd be surprised to see one for sale (used), but you could always keep an eye out! - Wes
Good for Honda for finally starting to cater to the off-road community. That being said, Yamaha is straight killing it! Kayaba SSS is the best there is, and with the 450fx, 250fx, and my personal favorite, the 250x, team blue is the premier enduro/off-road Japanese manufacturer right now.
I have the Yamaha and I like it, mostly. I stiffened up the springs for a big guy. The gear box is kind of funny, between second and third it just seems like they are just ever so slightly to far apart. I ride woods and Enduro with it.
Thanks for your thoughts. I have heard that regarding gearing from other guys as well. At my weight I really didn't notice. I just hope the Honda will be as bullet proof as my brothers' FXs have been.... Justin
Hi Justin - Do you still ride the Honda? Or did you get a '21? I'm looking at these two bikes and the 2021 model. So hard to choose! As a matter of fact I'm on the way to both dealers right now. After riding the Honda for a while, what have been your thoughts. I listen to a review on the RX for 2020 and the engine seemed to be a lot better than the 2019... picked up a bit more low and mid. Let me know! I'm about to pull the trigger!
Funny you ask. I just did a final video on the RX yesterday (filmed anyway). I am always switching bikes up. I just got a 20 KTM 250XC 2-stroke. However, I loved the 250RX. We just put a Cylinder works 270 big bore kit in it and was surprised at the grunt it gained. Still rips on top too! My brothers have new YZ250FX bikes as well, so I have ridden them a bunch. Also great bikes! You can't go wrong with either, but I think I would go with the new YZ250FX. The suspension is better and the motor feels a little more free-reving. At the same time, I haven't ridden a 20 or 21 RX and I am sure Honda has made it even better than my 2019. Again, I would be happy with both. Let me know what you end up with. - Justin
@@rmatvmc thank you Justin! I'm going to look at the 2021 yz250fx in the AM again. I saw the Honda CRF250rx the other day... seemed to have some fitment issues that I want Wasn't digging. Exhaust and muffler seemed to be assembled poorly and a few other minor things. I'm mainly worried about ergonomics between the 2 bikes. I'm 6'3 190. I had the Yamaha isn't great...need a tall seat... maybe that will fix that? Honda...I don't know. Have not ridden it. Seems the Yamaha is a better package. I wish honda would step up to meet the FX on a few things.
@@bassinbeast859 I bought back in 2017. To be honest I've never even cleaned the carb. I put a new air filter and use 91 octane a lucas oil 2 cycle mix. Changed the oil for the transmission. That's about it, and I ride every weekend when it's not summer. I use and abuse the bike. Amazing machine I absolutely love it. The suspension is its weak link I upgraded mine.
@@dpatt7503 : Lmbo, whatever trips your trigger brother, I was just trying to get a rise out of you, LOL, I was taught long ago, as I'm 56 years old, been riding for over 50 years, it's not WHAT you ride, it is THAT you ride 🤙🤙
It really depends on how much street you ride. If you are just connecting trails either is fine. If you are wanting to do a lot of street riding, neither! These bikes just aren't that fun on the street. I have converted many dirt bikes to connect trails - anything outside of that kind of sucks. Justin
@@rmatvmc I should have been more clear. I have a converted XR400 so I know how bad they are on the street for any length of time. But which on is most comfortable (engine wise) going 60mph. I would assume the Yamaha? I have a KDX 220 and the XR 400 and would like one bike to replace them both.
actually a good review, i dont plan on buying either bike but it told me where each bike shines, unlike a lot of the motocross reviews where (particularly recently) they tell you what each bike does badly. i would much rather they show where the bike shines and who would be a good fit on it. you guys nailed that
Thanks for the positive input!
@@rmatvmc Please help with video export settings and best way to keep your quality when uploading to youtube! Your videos look great and no matter what quality i film in mine do not turn out well! Please Pm
This is so meta
It's literally color preferance, you're getting a badass bike either way.
RCmen26 the honda is 1k more where i live
Kawasaki is way better
Honda wins tho
Mr Yeast infection haha sure
I laugh at the idiots that call Honda better. Those are the Honda kids that are brainwashed to 1 product and never try anything else. In truth, they are both excellent bikes, and I'd rather save $1,000 and buy the Yamaha. If Honda would sell at the same price, then it's just a color preference.
I'm here to see the bikes i couldn't afford
Sleya Raze lmao same
Man I completely agree with you I would love to trade in my bike for one of these baby's but a 3 thousand dollar bike won't pay for it
Me too
You rich ?
Wtf yall mean the yamaha is 2.5k dollars and the honda 3k . The 450cc versions are 5k $
I love Hondas and Yamahas, never owned anything else. But I'm a trail / enduro rider so in this case I say Yamaha all day.
Try sherco
They really did something with the fx
Ya the reliability of yammys and Honda's is unmatched..go to vintage races all mostly yzs quite a few elsinores. Which only a few were sold compared to rms and yzs..from '76 to '82..but there they are still rolling..sadly the rms were the cream of the class inmost instances but rattled themselves to death and it's a dam shame
Great unbiased review of two very viable bikes. I enjoy the ktm and the husky as much as anyone else, but it's nice to see something besides how great orange is.
Nice you mentioned the vibration. There's a lot of people with carpal tunnel or other problems that might really appreciate that tip most ignore. That or like me want something you can just take it for joy ride all day and aren't racing and you want to reduce fatigue as much as possible. I've been kind of looking for one that's really smooth and vibration free without going to 4 wheels. Be real nice to see that input on all your videos. Thanks!
With the GYTR tuner you can make that FX hit hard down low, make it soft off the bottom or rip up top as well. And starting next year you'll be able to do it from your cell phone.
I haven’t ridden dirt/enduro bikes for a decade but keep a keen eye on what’s happening.
Into adventure stuff as I’m heading to my mid 50s(Africa twin) but I must say it’s refreshing
to have you talking the bikes through as you are riding and comparing attitudes and sounds.
No biased views from what I heard and give your review a BIG thumbs up.👍
Thanks for the positivity!
Awesome unbiased review. Between the two I would get the Yamaha. Although I loved my crf250x; and if the RX is anything like that it would definitely be a great bike. I was in the market last year and when it came down to it, I went with the KTM. You can find left over models for almost the same price. Having all 3 brands in the past KTM's build is at a higher level. The hydro clutch alone is worth the couple hundred dollar OTD price tag. I would say KTM is a few years ahead. Although I wold he content with any of them.
I'm born and raised Honda, but until they take making an off-road bike seriously I'm stuck with KTM/Husky. 2 stroke, clear tank, 6 speed, hydraulic clutch, great brakes and a semi close transmission. Oh and let's not forget the huge weight savings.
Sam Thompson hey why don't you have a look at the other European bikes? Gasgas, beta and sherco are taking shares even if the orange bikes dominates in European forests.
@@simonsryd1 I've ridden GasGas 300s before, as my brother and cousin both owned them. They were good bikes but I disliked their forks and the feel of them, stink bug feel with really soft forks. The air filter was an epic PITA to get in and out. Also they don't have the support network here and let's not forget they are like 20lbs heavier than the competition. Betas are good but they are small and their 300s engines have a snooze worthy feel to them, too electric, linear and boring. The cockpits feel really cramped like they are made for 5'6" people, where huskies/KTM feel nearly identical to Honda. I'm impressed with Sherco, they seem like great bikes (never ridden one), but can never see myself going back to a non-counter balanced two stroke, they are simply too good.
I have the CRF250RX, main riding buddy has a 2018 YZF250FX (beautifully set up), we agree that the YZF is the better go slow, trail riding, riding at a relaxed pace versatile choice...... BUT.... if you want to go fast, you want to race, then you want the Honda, the Honda is a bit stiffer, feels more aggressive and makes you want to attack and ride fast, very fun bike. I could be happy with either bike, but I bought it to race, so the Honda was the right choice for me, I love my new CRF250RX!!
BC Offroad riding thanks for the info on your buddy FX. I'm prepping a yz250f as an hare scramble machine. I like the aggressive nature of the motocross bikes
That's great you are able to compare them and confirm you made the right choice. Thanks for the input BC Offroad riding!
As far as the softer suspension (yamaha) that's why have clickers/adjustment - dial in the suspension for your style/weight or terrain. Many factors to consider when dialing in suspension. As most of us know YZ KYB is pretty much as good as it gets.
Great that the Japanese are getting into the game, maybe I can finally get a reliable enduro bike xD
Keyword here is reliable. We wanna ride not wrench
The Japanese bike have been in the game forever now lol.
Most brands (Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki) are already Japanese
The only dirt bike I've ever seen seize was a KTM 125 2 stroke my brother got in a trade it was supposed to he a fresh top end and he made it two laps around our track and the motor seized.
Hunter Hill you can’t judge a company’s credit on a used bike that was “supposed” to be fresh
Great video!! Very informative
thanks a lot! -Jusitn
This is so so cool, I would love to see the exact same video with the 450 bikes. Both the WRF and the YZFX against the CRFRX would be sweet! Thanks for sharing the video guys, this was awesome and very informative!
That would be very cool, thanks for the suggestion. Glad you liked it!
Having ridden both of these bikes, I would say the Yamaha wins the day simply on the ability to lug stupid low in first gear and having better ratios and more gear selection available than the Honda. The Honda pulls a little harder in the lower rpm range, but the Yamaha feels much stronger from 3rd gear up. The Yamaha feels lower and more agressive to me. Very plush and predictable. Both great bikes, but I prefer the Yamaha. On a side note, the Honda I rode had issues restarting when hot. The Yamaha was flawless and ran perfectly right out of the box.
Yeah Yamahopper is as durable as it gets, im a red bike guy but blue is better right now. Its better than all of em.....it goes in cycles. I am 50....when i was a kid it was Jeremy McGrath on honda and jeff ward on green....long time ago, but Yamahaw always had the clinch your ass permagrin midrange that was the badass brand. It was the MOPAR of bikes, the Nazareth of classic rock. I live em all.....btw i have a honda cause dammit i like em and they have that comfy feel.....yamaha has that "oh shit, i may have f'd up feel" 😐 but make no mistake, Suzuki is the champ for the working man guy that wants to go fast, yellow is coming back soon.
@Thomas Vaatuitui True, they are all awesome, but I ride red, but love em all
Honestly I'd prefer the down low power because if you don't have to rev it all the way out all the time it will last longer
It is kind of interesting. In one riding area i liked the YZ grunt better, but in another I was loving the CRF better. I have come to the conclusion that both work well and each shine a little better than the other in certain situations. - Justin
@@rmatvmc OK dude you sold me. One of each please. . .
This was an awesome detailed video. If i was in the market for one of these bikes your video definitely would help.
I'm 13 and have just got a honda crf 150f and I'm a trail rider and my baby handles it great
Loving all the new uploads thanks guys!
Glad you're enjoying them! Thanks!
A very well-done review. Thank you...answered my question: for my type of riding, the Yamaha would be my pick.
Glad you got something out of it! Thanks!
But riding red gets you head
@D PATT lmao
Nice, I really enjoy head to head competitions. Especially when comparing apples to apples. Well done. I can not think of another instance when you can compare these two side by side.
Great review - thanks Justin! Great content for both bikes. Would like to see you update the versus with the 2020 models, now that Yamaha has made some great updates.
Thanks for the review. I found it very informative. Unfortunately I'm looking for a 450 suited to trail riding.
So glad you are doing reviews like this!!
Glad you're liking it!
Thank you!
For anyone considering the two bikes I have to say that the Yamaha is very plush and is great in tight single track and with a few clicker adjustments it has PLENTY of hold up and you can charge just as hard. You can race either bike in my opinion just comes down to personal preference and feel. Glad to see Honda come out with an awesome off-road bike though 👍🏻
I agree. thanks for your input. - Justin
I think I would be better off with the Yamaha being in Ohio.
Yamaha in 2019 had there map switch on the handle bar and the power tuning app on the phone
Though I'm a Yamaha owner, I firmly believe Honda was the first to introduce the flat bar chassis, then every one else followed.
The Honda pulled away in 5th gear because it was designed to have a total of 5 gears. (duh) Yamaha didn't need 5th gear to be that fast cuz they put a 6 speed in it.
I feel crazy for having to explain this.
The new Honda is nice but I would take the Yamaha. The transmission is the deciding factor between these two bikes in my opinion
I know, this is REALLY obvious. I was coming to comment the same thing.
I have a Honda crf450x and I have massive respect for it
Good job at reviewing these bikes I am a noob but now I feel I know a thing or two about these bikes.
This is really helpful. And what an incredible area to ride. Your videos are consistently superb. Good luck and thanks a million. I'm in Eastern Canada with an 07 525 EXC and thinking of a lighter bike as I'm almost 62 now.
Thanks a lot! - Justin
great comparison
Thanks for doing a good job of putting these bikes head to head.
Thank you!
Fantastic rundown! Thank you!!
Nice comparison, thanks for the video
Glad you liked it and thanks for watching!
Thank you!
This was a great review!
Excellent, excellent comparison, very helpful for a potential buyer
thanks! - Justin
Wow was this shot in southern Utah I’m guessing? The riding looks amazing
You got that right, this was shot in southern Utah!
The riding and the views are incredible out there.
Rocky Mountain ATV MC can you be a little more specific? I NEED to ride somewhere like that
Rocky Mountain ATV MC they are! I’m up in northern Utah and being new to riding I’m still trying to find all the good places to go. Im guessing this is around st George judging by all the red rock and plateaus
This is the Warner Valley Area just west of Sand Hollow Reservoir. I ride it all winter! Don't go there in summer though, you and your bike will melt!
Rugged Material Workshop awesome thank you!
I tell myself 4 strokes aren't that bad, and don't get me wrong these are really nice bikes and I couldn't say no to one if handed to me, but 2 strokes still reign supreme for the super technical stuff, and just all out fun, in my opinion.
JakeTheLittleSnake same if someone said to pick a yz250x or yz250fx i might go with the 250x
@@anthonyvu749 U should be compering the 250x with the 450fx not the 250fx
SAVAGE FRANKY sorry
@@anthonyvu749 lol U don't have to apologize just telling they have closer HP
Pros and cons for each. I keep going back and forth. The only clear conclusion I have is that Dirt Bikes are freaking FUN!!! - Justin
Very informative, thanks. Now all I got to do is wait 20 years to buy one so I can afford it!
Now they just need a 300 2 stroke, but at the speed Japan innovates and comes around, it might be another 10 years.
Fukn EPA makes them jump through hoops for emissions and the Japanese stopped developing their 2 strokes so they got some catching up to do
Yamaha in December 2021 revealed a 300cc 2 stroke with fuel injection, oil injection & electric start engine for 2024.
Awesome review and thanks for the info. I ride a CRF250X but I’m getting into off road racing. It sounds like if I keep my CRF250X then the Honda is the way to go because I’ll still have a trail bike, but if I’m trading I might go Yamaha because it could do double duty
Thanks. keep in mind that both will do double duty. Both bikes are fantastic - I am just being picky. If the Honda proves to be as reliable as my brothers' FXs have been, both are winners! - Justin
Well I just got a barely used 2007 Honda CRF250X which I think is the bike before this Honda Crf250rx , but I’ve been loving the bike
It really doesn't have to do with anything other than personal preference at this point. No matter what you're ending up with a great bike, and it's really just up to personal preference.
Great review thanks
Great video. Enjoyed the spec's & though Im an old man, I understood your description's and the back & forth comparison. Honda got my vote, thank's.
Thanks! -Justin
Awesome riding area!!
Very nice Review. It helped me understand the differences and now that I know the Honda has a 5 speed Tranny...I may be sticking to KTM...but again...great review!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching and we appreciate the comment. Have fun out there!
So looks like they threw an 18" wheel and an o-ring chain on their mx bike. lol.
I feel yamaha did a little more to market to the trail side, but it just depends what you want. You won't go wrong with either one....Justin
And a skid plate👍🙂
Suspension settings, different Ecu mapping
Great comparison. I’d go with the Yamaha myself. Waiting for a Japanese lightweight 2 stroke Enduro to appear.
Thanks. There is always the yamaha 250X, but I think it needs e-start and the magical counter-balance the KTM and Husky has :) Justin
At least the Honda with its 5 speed can be more suited for dabbling on the motocross track every now and then. Differentiates itself from the yam and KTM that way. More options for the consumers!
That's a good way to look at it.
Thanks for watching!
Canisters too, nobody makes 2. Another option I can't understand.
yeah i have had alot of bikes i had a 2012 250 exc and that was the most awful thing ever on the track the suspension was awfull had to set it to the stiffest every time and that wasent even enough the best all around bike is either 2002 cr 125 that thing was awesome in both woods and track i had it 4 a while or i bike i own right now rm 250 from 2007 i own a 450 aswell atm but i dont ride it as much
A good review, kudos
Appreciate it, Otto!
Nice review , but you can manage the mic sound better > > > Good luck!
Where are you guys it looks fun
You can do it on the fly on the WR and the Wr has a better suspension pretty much the same bike though as the Fx yz I’ve got the 2023 it’s Awsome can do anything on it
Great information Dude!
Great review!
Glad you liked it and thanks for the feedback!
Dream bike off roader would be an XR 400 with todays suspension and chassis
Fast forward years of hard riding abuse and the Yamaha still starts first turn
Are their dirt bikes that much better than their 4 wheelers then? Or you call years as 3 years tops from factory production? Personally my 01 Honda still bangs off the first touch of the starter. So kind of wandering why you're specifying Yamaha when I've watched my old 97 Honda I had keep running for the 7 years I owned it after my friends brand new 07 Yamaha had quit running and needed total overhaul. I think i put one spark plug in once on the Honda for good measure and nothing but gas and oil other than that. Just thought I'd throw my personal experience in. Also i bought a Yamaha rhino 660 that my old Honda outlasted. Actually I've had many Honda's and only worked on them twice. Once the starter quit and had to clean out old gas once which will happen to anything. Personally I've just had a lot of bad luck with my Yamaha and seen my friend and a friend's uncle have lots of bad luck with theirs too. Out of probably 25 four wheelers etc my friends and I have all had we've all together only had like 5 Yamaha between us all and all 5 had problems some time or another and nobody had one over a couple years. But all the Honda's we rode until we were just bored of it and sold it. So I guess I've had the exact opposite of you with my experience and I've owned a lot of machines since about 1994 when i started riding. I take that back about all the Yamaha. Only good Yamaha I've seen was an old 89 or so big bear 350. That Yamaha was great and reliable. What Yamaha you got and how long you had it? I'm curious cause I kind of want another dirt bike and the slower 1st gear is attractive but I'm nervous about Yamahas after all that bad luck I've seen and had personally. Is their wr250 super reliable compared to other Yamaha? What I've been looking at nervously. Not a ton of options for good off road worthy, small, light, bikes that are street legal.
jackle842000 You have way too much time on your hands to To write multiple paragraphs About something no one cares about
Which trail series was this? I wanna go there...looks like a great trail
Do this again and add the KX.
solid review
thank you!
Where was this video taken?
Justin you're a killer dude my friend! Love watchin you do what you do and listen to your thoughts on things mayte.
Thanks a lot! - Justin
This was a great review. The RX has a close ratio transmission which is why many desert racers I know will not buy it over the Yamaha or other off-road centered bikes. I also wish Yamaha and Honda would put on a hydraulic clutch.
They took your advice !
That looks like some awesome riding
Love the Yamaha, just can't get past the odd intake/exhaust swap---why?
Are you in Northeast Arizona/Northwest New Mexico?
This was filmed in southern Utah!
Honda is nice but that Yamaha appears to a better all-around package. Don't get me wrong, the Honda has some cool features.
Not only has Yamaha been nominated as the best manufacturer, but best reputation when it comes to dirt bikes. Yamaha has a wide variety of dirt bikes ranging from YZ125, to WR450F. This variety of dirt bikes is valuable as you can find any size with any amount of power to suit you and your riding style. Having owned a dirt bike, I know how difficult it is to maintain your bike and keep it running well. Especially for someone who is not familiar with how to change the oil, oil filters, transmission fluid, air filters, etc. Yamaha is your best bet as it is the most reliable dirt bike brand rated by Goliath, and other well accredited websites regarding dirt bikes. This means that your bike will break down less, and ride for much longer than other bikes. Others will have a specific brand in mind that they think is better than Yamaha, but you just can't beat the facts. Yamaha has won 39 world championships, including 7 in MotoGp and 10 in the preceding 500 cc two-stroke class, and 1 in the World superbike. This is proof that Yamaha is not only the most reliable brand of bike, but that the power and speed in these bikes is not something to disregard. Yamaha is known for its power, and great suspension. Making it a great bike to take off road and on single track. The suspension is incredibly valued by dirt bike riders while it is a fantastic advantage in handling and riding on the dirt. If you are looking for your first bike, or your 20th bike, go to Yamaha. You will have 0% regret in your decision. Ride on!
Looking forward Honda CRF250 RXEME2.....
This is the first time I'm noticing this but you can see the video stabilization feature on the camera because you can see the helmet bounce around but the video dosnt shake,or it's a special mount but it looks nice
Correct. I am using the sony action cam and it has great stabilization. The New GoPro 7 does as well (finally!). - Justin
Rocky Mountain ATV MC it's a nice camera
When is team green gonna get into the off-road scene?!! Need them to get back into the 2 stroke scene to battle ktm and husky. Bought a 18 gasgas xc250 cause I wanted something different. Glad I did cause it came with a hydraulic clutch, FMF exhaust, magura brakes, electric start, 6 speed wide ratio transmission and Excel rims for $6,600 and its frickin awesome...last model on the floor. Wouldve bought a Yamaha but they just won't install a electric start and still is only a 5 speed. Just need more options without the extreme price tags...
Come on guys, we all know that the Yamaha's and the Honda's are awesome, we need some different stuff you need to cover, like the GPX FSE 250's or something. I know it's Chinese, but recently Ever-ride covered one of them and was impressed. I just want more information and more opinions on the bikes.
I have a 2015 crf250 that's I've put 3 years on. I'm not a fan of the air forks when riding in rocks, even after getting them revalved. I also don't like that the power gets a bit flat when your wringing it out. I'm thinking the RX might be a better bike for me for riding 50/50 track and trail.
Do you find yourself shifting more with the Honda
Anyone know where they are riding here? Looks like some amazing trails!
The Yamaha is the only bike to get for 4 reasons.
1. 6 speed transmission, this makes it way more versatile, top speed is over 80 mph.
2. Better low end power, it makes good power from the first crack of the throttle.
3. Only one exhaust silencer, you're 50% less likely to damage a silencer in a crash, and cheaper to buy an aftermarket silencer.
4. KYB SSS forks are awesome.,
Comparing these two bikes has always been questionable to me. I'm a desert racer/offroad racer myself and the thing that bugs me the most is that your comparing apples and oranges. The crf250 and 450 Rx are not an offroad bike, they are more towards a gp or worcs bike at the most. Because those races are still more of a motocross style race then an offroad style race like hare and hounds, hare scrambles, enduro's. The Rx to me is a motocross bike with an 18in rear wheel. It doesn't have a wide ratio gearbox it use the same transmission as the motocross bike and the suspension is much stiffer still to absorb the bigger jumps, and what the guy said about it staying up in the top of the stroke is better. That is not a good suspension setup there is 12in of travel why would you only want to use it all. That setup will beat you to death in an offroad race. I raced a 2010 yz450f for many years and trying to get it setup for offroad was difficult. I just recently bought the 2019 yz450fx and the suspension was a bit stiff still even for it being softer then its motocross brother. In the rocks the causes it to deflect off rocks and makes it very difficult to ride in those sections. So I changed to a softer fork oil and now it's perfect and I hammer through whoops and I'm using the full range of the suspension and it handles perfectly. The fx style bikes are very good offroad bikes and that's why a lot of offroad racers have switched to them. They have wide ratio gearboxes, 18in rear wheel, better power delivery for offroad and a better suspension setup. If you want an offroad style honda then buy the 250x or 450x.
Bravo 👏 Well Done!!! 👍
Have they made any major changes to the Yamaha from 2015 to 2019 I normally buy used bikes and dont want to be left behind on my earlier model.
Not many, the notable changes for the 250FX came in 2020 and I would say that bike is definitely worth the upgrade if you are looking to. I'd be surprised to see one for sale (used), but you could always keep an eye out! - Wes
@@rmatvmc Ok, Thanks!
@@TeamTORG Sorry, I had the YZ250F and FX confused. Wes is correct, the 2020 FX got all the updates. - Chase
Good for Honda for finally starting to cater to the off-road community. That being said, Yamaha is straight killing it! Kayaba SSS is the best there is, and with the 450fx, 250fx, and my personal favorite, the 250x, team blue is the premier enduro/off-road Japanese manufacturer right now.
I agree. yamaha has done an awesome job with the FX line. It will be interesting to see if the 2020 FX gets the 2019 YZ250F changes. - Justin
@@rmatvmc Does the YZ250X have electric start like the FX?
I have the Yamaha and I like it, mostly. I stiffened up the springs for a big guy. The gear box is kind of funny, between second and third it just seems like they are just ever so slightly to far apart. I ride woods and Enduro with it.
Thanks for your thoughts. I have heard that regarding gearing from other guys as well. At my weight I really didn't notice. I just hope the Honda will be as bullet proof as my brothers' FXs have been.... Justin
Hi Justin -
Do you still ride the Honda? Or did you get a '21? I'm looking at these two bikes and the 2021 model. So hard to choose! As a matter of fact I'm on the way to both dealers right now. After riding the Honda for a while, what have been your thoughts.
I listen to a review on the RX for 2020 and the engine seemed to be a lot better than the 2019... picked up a bit more low and mid. Let me know! I'm about to pull the trigger!
Funny you ask. I just did a final video on the RX yesterday (filmed anyway). I am always switching bikes up. I just got a 20 KTM 250XC 2-stroke. However, I loved the 250RX. We just put a Cylinder works 270 big bore kit in it and was surprised at the grunt it gained. Still rips on top too! My brothers have new YZ250FX bikes as well, so I have ridden them a bunch. Also great bikes! You can't go wrong with either, but I think I would go with the new YZ250FX. The suspension is better and the motor feels a little more free-reving. At the same time, I haven't ridden a 20 or 21 RX and I am sure Honda has made it even better than my 2019. Again, I would be happy with both. Let me know what you end up with. - Justin
@@rmatvmc thank you Justin! I'm going to look at the 2021 yz250fx in the AM again. I saw the Honda CRF250rx the other day... seemed to have some fitment issues that I want
Wasn't digging. Exhaust and muffler seemed to be assembled poorly and a few other minor things. I'm mainly worried about ergonomics between the 2 bikes. I'm 6'3 190. I had the Yamaha isn't great...need a tall seat... maybe that will fix that? Honda...I don't know. Have not ridden it. Seems the Yamaha is a better package. I wish honda would step up to meet the FX on a few things.
Crf250rx please :)
I'll just keep my 1990 kdx...30 years old and still ripping hard. The bike is older than I am. 900 bucks.
Hav you ever put a top end on it or anything im guessing you did just wandering
@@bassinbeast859 I bought back in 2017. To be honest I've never even cleaned the carb. I put a new air filter and use 91 octane a lucas oil 2 cycle mix. Changed the oil for the transmission. That's about it, and I ride every weekend when it's not summer. I use and abuse the bike. Amazing machine I absolutely love it. The suspension is its weak link I upgraded mine.
Why is KTM more ??? Im looking to buy first bike you recommend Honda's or KTM ??? THX
I'll take the Yamaha. :)
YAMAHA!!!
Riding red gets you head
@@dpatt7503 : Ride red you give head 🤣
@@billrudolph8185 naw, I'm riding red, getting head, mixing gas and slapping ass
@@dpatt7503 : Lmbo, whatever trips your trigger brother, I was just trying to get a rise out of you, LOL, I was taught long ago, as I'm 56 years old, been riding for over 50 years, it's not WHAT you ride, it is THAT you ride 🤙🤙
Where was this video shot at?
This was down in St. George, Utah near the Warner Valley area.
Listen blue is my favorite but I gotta go with himda
I love the look of 18 inch wheels. Wish it was realistiv dor my old yz250
would you recommend the yz250fx for a rider that’s doing off roading and 5’7 ft
You can adjust the sag on any dirt bike and set it up better for your height
Most racers are 5'7" and theyre on 450 mx bikes
@@hunterhill1013 iam 5'7 but 14yo thx for the info i think iam getting one soon
Nice review. Now if they could just come stock with a license plate I'd be at the dealership today :)
Maybe the CRF450L is the bike your you!
@@rmatvmc thanks but it comes with an extra 50 lbs
Just got my 2019 yz250fx and i also rode a crf250rx i can say they have different personalities but i bleed blue
Which one would make the best street conversion?
Get the Honda 450L
It really depends on how much street you ride. If you are just connecting trails either is fine. If you are wanting to do a lot of street riding, neither! These bikes just aren't that fun on the street. I have converted many dirt bikes to connect trails - anything outside of that kind of sucks. Justin
@@rmatvmc I should have been more clear. I have a converted XR400 so I know how bad they are on the street for any length of time. But which on is most comfortable (engine wise) going 60mph. I would assume the Yamaha? I have a KDX 220 and the XR 400 and would like one bike to replace them both.
@@klmccune yes the Yamaha has a higher top speed but if U want like a super moto U could just get the husky 701
You can change the gearing on the Honda to a lower gear for more technical riding right?
Yeah, but it really isn't bad. I am going to leave it alone. - Justin
can't believe he didn't mention the air filter access on the yamaha?
Where is he riding?? I need to move there.
That's southern Utah for ya!
Thanks for watching!
Are there modes or are they stock