I purchased the ESS Crosshair to use as everyday sunglasses, because I was fed up to the back teeth with having to wipe so-called 'anti-fog' lenses every five minutes. The Crosshair beats everything else I've tried else hands down - even expensive wrap-arounds from a certain French company. ESS lenses do *NOT* fog. Seriously. I haven't yet felt inclined to blast them with the old 12-bore, so I shall just have to take your word on how tough they are! My congratulations on a fine product.
Congratulations on the channel. I am a practitioner of sport shooting and booth. Does Ess URX fit directly into Ice and Suppressor or do I have to buy p-2b?
Do you know where I can buy that whole setup? I want to test a few glasses and been looking for a machine Or alternatively, can you share as to how you built that setup?
Hi, i have a technical question. I'm not familiar with the ANSI standards but i read that the Z87.1 is different from the Z87+. Since you compared a Z87.1+ with the Crossbow, which is in fact Z87+, why did the Crossbow take less damage? This should mean that the Z87+ Standard is higher than Z87.1+. Though i never heard of Z87.1+ but of the Z87.1, is there an additional distinction?
Starting in 2010 with additional updates in 2015, the ANSI Z87.1 standard requires efficient and easy-to-understand lens & frame markings. These markings help make the selection process simpler and increases compliance. Those product markings indicate ratings in the following areas: Impact: “Z87+” indicates high-velocity impact, and “Z87” alone means basic impact Splash and droplet: D3 for splash and droplet and D4 for dust Fine dust: D5 Welding: W plus the shade number UV: U plus the scale number Infrared light: R plus the scale number Visible light filter: L plus the scale number Prescription: Z87-2 on the front of the front of the frame and on both temples Head size: H indicates products designed for smaller head sizes Other: V for photochromic and S for special lens tint All safety markings for ANSI Z87.1-2015 safety eyewear must be permanently and clearly marked on the frame or lens. This marking requirement includes goggles and face shields as well as safety glasses.
Ice or ice naro should i buy ? obviously naro is for narrow faces but i need to know how you define a narrow face. for a person that is 1.78 m tall and 86 kl which pair of shooting glasses should purchase ?
Eye pro it is, Dane! Figure out whether you want to be safety-rated to ANSI Z87.1 or all the way up to U.S. MIL SPEC, then decide! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I recently purchased the ESS Ice.. Are they safe to use during airsoft game? Reason I asked this is that they mentioned from the product manual that they are not safe to use for airsoft and paintball purpose. How come?
This is probably tooooooo late but the reason why is that the regular safety glasses type with no seal will get into your eyes at certain angles but the lense will stop bbs. If you want to use a safety glass style glasses with a full seal, I think the ESS Crossbow/Crossbow suppressor with an ESS gasket for the crossbow/crossbow suppressor will do the trick just like the oakley SI M frame 2.0 with a helo kit.
Augh, I am sorry that I missed your further query. By now you hopefully have your answer, but here it is anyway: they are most easily available online. ESS products are sold in various stores or other online distributors across the U.S. and abroad, however, and there is a Where to Buy function on esseyepro(dot)com you can refer to to see if a location buy is near you.
I wonder what will happen if I start shooting at the frame of the glasses? Why is none of the famous manufacturers of shooting glasses (ESS/Bolle/Oakley/Peltor) does not conduct such tests))) The answer is simple, almost any polycarbonate from 1.6 mm and above corresponds to this standard. Even the Chinese for $ 10 or cheap glasses 3M from 5$. But when you shoot into the frame, they crack and ricochet a bullet in the eyes. If there is a series of shots, then the first bullet opens the frame and knocks polycarbonate glass, and the others fly straight into the eyes. Also, you can damage the frame with a bullet and throw it away from your face. By the bullet I mean a flying particle with kinetic energy (2-3.5 J and higher). All this works on the glass with composites in the frame (plastic / rubber / PVC). If the glasses are completely made of their polycarbonate (molding), then there is no risk.
I just want to thank all the Airsoft guys on here. You are a never ending source of amusement. Bunch of grown ups running around with toys, pretending to be SpecOps. Just great. You don't need military equipment, $1.99 sunglasses from wallmart can stop the toys you are using. Those are rated for children, for gods sake.
***** I totally get the whole LARP aspect of airsoft. But it is still funny to me to run around in 4k $ worth of actual gear. That airsoft is not going to go through your sweatshirt. No need to take a level 3A Ballistic Vest.
In Russia, they wear balistic plates. And not composite (high price). A plate of armor steel for 3-4 kg each. The final weight of the plate carrier can be over 12 kg + more helmet and weapons, which often weighs more than a combat analog. After 4 years, problems with the back begin. We also have the speed of flight of the BBs 150 - automatic, 170 - machine gun, 190 - sniper rifle m / s (3.61 J) authorized according to the rules. The result is broken teeth, broken glasses and damaged eyes. People do not even pay attention to getting and stuck BBs in the skin.
You should check your math. The average airsoft gun packs enough kinetic energy to easily shatter most non safety rated eyewear. A 0.2 grams BB moving at 350f/s (this is an average airsoft gun projectile and velocity) caries 1.13Joules of Kinetic energy while EN166F (european rated) safety glasses can withstand 0,86. Please do the minimum math and research next time. Also you can never be overboard with eye protection. How stupid you would feel loosing an eye from a toy?
*You* are a source of amusement. The Walmart sunglasses are made of acrylic, CR39, or unspec'ed resin which does not have the stress/strain behaviour of polycarbonate (2nd pair of glass) or hardcoated polycarbonate (ESS glasses) necessary to survive the high velocity (100-120 m/s), high strain-rate impact (1.5J energy transfer over a 6mm ID curvature) that airsoft needs. And this is before any discussion on the impacting the frame and lens design. Yeah, some of us are grown up running around with "toys" that we bought using our jobs from STEM degrees.
I love my ESS Crossbows. After watching this, I love them even more.
I purchased the ESS Crosshair to use as everyday sunglasses, because I was fed up to the back teeth with having to wipe so-called 'anti-fog' lenses every five minutes. The Crosshair beats everything else I've tried else hands down - even expensive wrap-arounds from a certain French company. ESS lenses do *NOT* fog. Seriously.
I haven't yet felt inclined to blast them with the old 12-bore, so I shall just have to take your word on how tough they are! My congratulations on a fine product.
love my ESS saved my eyes a few times playing Airsoft.
You folks need to make some aviator style goggles for motorcycle enthusiasts (such as myself) who want an old-school look but like our eyes...
Is it possible to use additional lenses with diopters with the glasses you recommend?
Congratulations on the channel.
I am a practitioner of sport shooting and booth.
Does Ess URX fit directly into Ice and Suppressor or do I have to buy p-2b?
Do you know where I can buy that whole setup? I want to test a few glasses and been looking for a machine
Or alternatively, can you share as to how you built that setup?
Hi, i have a technical question. I'm not familiar with the ANSI standards but i read that the Z87.1 is different from the Z87+. Since you compared a Z87.1+ with the Crossbow, which is in fact Z87+, why did the Crossbow take less damage? This should mean that the Z87+ Standard is higher than Z87.1+. Though i never heard of Z87.1+ but of the Z87.1, is there an additional distinction?
Starting in 2010 with additional updates in 2015, the ANSI Z87.1 standard requires efficient and easy-to-understand lens & frame markings. These markings help make the selection process simpler and increases compliance. Those product markings indicate ratings in the following areas:
Impact: “Z87+” indicates high-velocity impact, and “Z87” alone means basic impact
Splash and droplet: D3 for splash and droplet and D4 for dust
Fine dust: D5
Welding: W plus the shade number
UV: U plus the scale number
Infrared light: R plus the scale number
Visible light filter: L plus the scale number
Prescription: Z87-2 on the front of the front of the frame and on both temples
Head size: H indicates products designed for smaller head sizes
Other: V for photochromic and S for special lens tint
All safety markings for ANSI Z87.1-2015 safety eyewear must be permanently and clearly marked on the frame or lens. This marking requirement includes goggles and face shields as well as safety glasses.
Ice or ice naro should i buy ? obviously naro is for narrow faces but i need to know how you define a narrow face. for a person that is 1.78 m tall and 86 kl which pair of shooting glasses should purchase ?
Are all ESS goggles, especially the crossbow APEL aproved? since my crossbow frame only shows z87+ and the lenses essz87+L3?
Eye pro it is, Dane! Figure out whether you want to be safety-rated to ANSI Z87.1 or all the way up to U.S. MIL SPEC, then decide! Thanks for watching and commenting.
I recently purchased the ESS Ice.. Are they safe to use during airsoft game? Reason I asked this is that they mentioned from the product manual that they are not safe to use for airsoft and paintball purpose. How come?
This is probably tooooooo late but the reason why is that the regular safety glasses type with no seal will get into your eyes at certain angles but the lense will stop bbs. If you want to use a safety glass style glasses with a full seal, I think the ESS Crossbow/Crossbow suppressor with an ESS gasket for the crossbow/crossbow suppressor will do the trick just like the oakley SI M frame 2.0 with a helo kit.
Where can i buy this machine tester ?
I would much rather have the Mil Spec. Can I only get them online?
Augh, I am sorry that I missed your further query. By now you hopefully have your answer, but here it is anyway: they are most easily available online. ESS products are sold in various stores or other online distributors across the U.S. and abroad, however, and there is a Where to Buy function on esseyepro(dot)com you can refer to to see if a location buy is near you.
My ESS naro broke after 3 shots with an airsoftgun from a 5 ft distance with 345 fps
which brand is better, ess or wiley x?
What is difference between ESS and the Wally X sunglasses?
What ESS eyeglasses the best ?
the ones you like. they are all good
+Bob johnson thank you
Роман Иващенко which u like
I need to get the ESS crossbow or OAKLEY eye pro (I think there called eye pro)
Test eye protection with pneumatic gun...but doesn't wear eye protection to do it. =-(
maybe the transparent shield arround the machine also ballistic?
so good i have it
I want some crossbows for xmas 2015!!
Hire me to sell this shit for you.
I wonder what will happen if I start shooting at the frame of the glasses? Why is none of the famous manufacturers of shooting glasses (ESS/Bolle/Oakley/Peltor) does not conduct such tests)))
The answer is simple, almost any polycarbonate from 1.6 mm and above corresponds to this standard. Even the Chinese for $ 10 or cheap glasses 3M from 5$.
But when you shoot into the frame, they crack and ricochet a bullet in the eyes. If there is a series of shots, then the first bullet opens the frame and knocks polycarbonate glass, and the others fly straight into the eyes. Also, you can damage the frame with a bullet and throw it away from your face.
By the bullet I mean a flying particle with kinetic energy (2-3.5 J and higher).
All this works on the glass with composites in the frame (plastic / rubber / PVC). If the glasses are completely made of their polycarbonate (molding), then there is no risk.
I just want to thank all the Airsoft guys on here. You are a never ending source of amusement. Bunch of grown ups running around with toys, pretending to be SpecOps. Just great. You don't need military equipment, $1.99 sunglasses from wallmart can stop the toys you are using. Those are rated for children, for gods sake.
*****
I totally get the whole LARP aspect of airsoft. But it is still funny to me to run around in 4k $ worth of actual gear. That airsoft is not going to go through your sweatshirt. No need to take a level 3A Ballistic Vest.
In Russia, they wear balistic plates. And not composite (high price). A plate of armor steel for 3-4 kg each. The final weight of the plate carrier can be over 12 kg + more helmet and weapons, which often weighs more than a combat analog. After 4 years, problems with the back begin. We also have the speed of flight of the BBs 150 - automatic, 170 - machine gun, 190 - sniper rifle m / s (3.61 J) authorized according to the rules. The result is broken teeth, broken glasses and damaged eyes. People do not even pay attention to getting and stuck BBs in the skin.
You should check your math. The average airsoft gun packs enough kinetic energy to easily shatter most non safety rated eyewear. A 0.2 grams BB moving at 350f/s (this is an average airsoft gun projectile and velocity) caries 1.13Joules of Kinetic energy while EN166F (european rated) safety glasses can withstand 0,86. Please do the minimum math and research next time. Also you can never be overboard with eye protection. How stupid you would feel loosing an eye from a toy?
Take note this is a relatively weak airsoft gun, only a moron disrespects someone for taking safety precautions and enjoying a hobby, get a grip.
*You* are a source of amusement. The Walmart sunglasses are made of acrylic, CR39, or unspec'ed resin which does not have the stress/strain behaviour of polycarbonate (2nd pair of glass) or hardcoated polycarbonate (ESS glasses) necessary to survive the high velocity (100-120 m/s), high strain-rate impact (1.5J energy transfer over a 6mm ID curvature) that airsoft needs. And this is before any discussion on the impacting the frame and lens design. Yeah, some of us are grown up running around with "toys" that we bought using our jobs from STEM degrees.