Patek Philippe vs. $500 Watch? | Watchfinder & Co.
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- You may have seen that I bought myself a new timepiece-check out the review if you haven’t seen it already-and it’s no ordinary watch. It’s a pocket watch, from 1950, from the American railroad, and it cost me £250. So why on Earth would I even consider comparing it to a £25,000 wristwatch? Well, because-why not?
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Since 2009, when they left the Geneva Seal certification, PP's finishing is worse than most 10k watches, forget about 30k watches. Their production went from 20,000 timepieces in 2009 to over 80,000 in 2019 (they went from 10,000 to 20,000 timepieces from 2009 to 2010 alone). And they barely hired anyone else in the finishing department so unless the guys over there improved their efficiency by tenfold that's machine polishing you're getting.
Are you suggesting that watches that cost as much as a new car or a mortgage aren't delivering their full value? Color me shocked.
I completely agree 👍👏 very poor finishing
After seeing your review I just had to buy a Hamilton 992B and I love it! Yes, it’s on my desk under a glass dome. And I will admit I had to go on the Internet to find out where the setting lever was hidden. Lol
Congratulations! Enjoy it. And I will also admit that it took me a while to track down that lever as well...
That Hamilton is an great watch. 🙂 love the finishing on the movement. It’s just a lot of watch for you’re money! 😃
RIGHT?! I was soooo tempted to buy the Hamilton 992B too! This comment isn't helping!
@@BrittPearceWatches LOL
I had a hard time getting that case open! Seems like it turns forever. Also, watch fobs and vests are very hip, you know!
"Because, why not?” Is the reason I buy watches.
"after all, why not? Why shouldn't I buy it"
@@juaneer I had a discussion with my partner last night about buying an Explorer, needless to say the answer was no.
@@mikecalderon7992 I had the same about explorer also. The answer was: are you insane? Now I'm planning to get an Aqua Terra I think that can pass
One could deduce from this video that you are quite happy with your new-to-you Hamilton then! Very good. May everyone value their pieces as highly and enjoy them as much! Great video! Thanks
“Well, because... why not?” is the reason why this is one of my absolute favorite watch channels.
Very well said.
So true!
@Pete Yes!
I have a gold Lognines tank that I paid 250.00 for and it has a 9L in it. I wouldn't trade it for anything, and it gets compliments all the time. It's not money, it's taste.
Precisely.
BOOM! Perfectly said! you can't buy taste!
@@BrittPearceWatches I'm certainly glad you guys are with me on this.
I bought a limit pocket watch 20 years ago. It dates from 1912. I use it as a bedroom side clock now. It needs winding every day and looses about 5 mins a day but it’s great resetting it every day. It cost me 99 pounds at the time and I still love it.
if you enjoy it, I'd at least get it adjusted, or better yet serviced
That's exactly the reason why I collect american (and british) pocket watches for more than twenty years. Thanks for pinning it down to one video. I owned a PP wristwatch, but I sold it recently. I prefer to wear my pocket watches on a daily basis (wearing now: a Sangamo 23J Getty model by Illinois). For easter, it might be a Frodsham minute repeater. Yes, you can wear them and they still keep excellent time - if you treat yourself to an excellent (pocket) watch.
After I watched your earlier video on this Hamilton a few days ago, I was inspired to find one for myself and was I lucky! Within no more than 2 hours I had found a 1949 one in fine condition and for a great price: €200 including shipping from Italy. Thank you! 😀
A well-maintained 992 is an impressive machine. My 992 is 110 years old, and it keeps time as accurate as my 3130 Sub (both less than 1.5 SPD). Literally, World War I was yet to happen when this watch was made. The 992Bs are capable of being even more accurate. It amazes me how they mass-produced a mechanical watch with that level of accuracy over a century ago, and how well they still run today.
I love that micro rotor, it's absolutely stunning.
It almost makes me want to sell my house and live in a cardboard box.
Wow.... these macro shots. Absolutely gorgeous.
I see we have the same interests. I just bought Illinois pocket railway grade watch from 1909. And it is utterly exquisite. I am actually wearing it during more formal occasions. So yes, it truly can be a practical purchase.
Loving the watches..... but how come I can't stop staring at how fabulous this table is?!
I used to carry my 1908 waltham vanguard daily until main spring broke few months ago. It kept very good time.
I inherited my grandfather‘s Ball railroad watch, made in the 1800s. That watch is more accurate than any watch that I own including an expensive dive watch.Most people should know but many don’t that the little pocket that comes on blue jeans is a pocket watch pocket, which is where my pocket watch goes when I carry it which is often. I love caring that watch pulling it out and showing it off. I am always amazed at how accurate a watch that was made over 100 years ago can be.
Yep, the Hamilton 992B is one of the best railroad watches of its era. They made something like 200k of them. it could use a new dial though, you could probably pick one up on Ebay for about $70-90. I love pocketwatches, I own over 500 of them now.
I have a few beautiful pocket watches: enamel dial, blued hands, engraved precious metal cases, decorated movements - for which I paid a pittance. I do wear them now and then and receive far more compliments than my much more expensive wrist watches. The only compliments I get on them are from sales types who are more interested in the status...
So now I am on eBay bidding on Hamilton 992 Railroad watches to hang on my Green Glass Railway Telegraph pole insulator. Thank you!
I got it! Found a 1942 Hamilton 992b and have it proudly displayed hanging around a Hemingway 43 Green Telegraph Pole Insulator - my first collectors watch!
....that hamilton movement is beautiful!
Looking forward for an Atmos Clock Review. 😍
Could always get yourself a Leather Wristlet for your pocket watch. I have a friend that collects them and wears them. When he is not wearing a vest, he has a Wristlet.
I have a 1956 Calatrava and a 1961 992B. I like to think that maybe they rode on a train together once.
Seriously, I appreciate the beautifully written description of the two. Well done, Sir.
It’s almost the beginning of April, how about reviewing a Casio Edifice EF-106?
After 200 years new ideas for escapements in mechanical watches are now emerging.
Would love to see a comparison of the Zenith Defy Inventor and the Frederique Constant Slimline Monolithic,
both high beat movements, versus traditional high quality movements.
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the new developments!
Another great video. Really enjoyed it. Second, my two vintage pocket watches rarely leave the house, and like your pocket watch, are used as clocks which are wound every day in two separate rooms.
I agree some of those older Swiss watches are amazing! That’s why I collect vintage Invicta’s. Not expensive and you get a lot of watch for it.😉
I love the perspective of this video. But at this point, you're having too much fun sir!
So happy to see a Hamilton pocket watch here. Thank you!
Can you please review the Breguet 7147/5140?
The fact is you can get a pocket watch with close to Phillips Dufour quality finishing, especially with the beveling (convex bezels, interior angles) for less than $500. The Hamilton in this video is only the start of pocket watch quality. Heck, the Patek Phillips pocket watches you can get for a few thousand dollars have better quality than most of today’s Patek wristwatches, especially the time-only ones.
Talking up your Hamilton pocket watch..?!
You really love your purchase. It is beautiful and in good condition
I'd gladly carry the pocket watch with me instead of wearing a wristwatch. in fact, I think it would be a fantastic alternative. it's also possible to buy the clint Eastwood pocket watch from his film a few dollars more. great fun.
Sometimes it's not about putting a loan on a watch, its finding that one watch that makes you smile when you check the time.
That Hamilton was One Lucky Accident!! What are the chances of any interchangeable Parts? Well done. Watchfinder!!
Very good. You can find NOS parts through eBay I own four Hamiltons and love each one for its own history and the accuracy blows me away. As for daily use, I wear a different one each day
Congrats on a beautiful pocket watch and no you haven’t wasted your money on such a beautiful movement, Waltham’s also made great PW and so did Elgin’s
Have you done any reviews on Bulova Watches?
Just a genius comparison!! With more of us working from home I can see the pocket watch desk clock really catching on.
RGM builds a watch using a Hamilton pocket watch movement. It is truly beautiful. American case. American movement. Piece of history. Affordable. Best of all worlds.
only an American could ever admire that as "best of all worlds".
Yes agreed that it’s A RIDICULOUS comparison one heard so often from those who can’t afford something and can’t wait to fire poison arrows. However even as a pocket watch the Hamilton is hard to see as anything more than ordinary, There are many many such timepieces that easily out perform it aesthetically and I’m sure are just as able. There are Patek’s, Breguet’s and possibly numerous other pocket watches that would make far more enticing bedside timepieces than a Hamilton,
Just purchased a 1944 992b in mint condition for a bargain price, thanks to Watchfinder. What a beauty!
This is the only Hamilton I have seen where the railroad name (that it was I presume supplied too) is shown on the watch.
Wearing my Hamilton 38mm Khaki Auto whilst watching this. Recent purchase also. It's a brand I could easily get seriously into.
Hamilton is a great company. Sad that sub brands to the major watch manufacturers suffer under the cloud of froth. Have a Hamilton khaki bought in 2002. Serviced one time for 150 bucks. ETA movement simple but classic.
My cousin has the Calatrava and its......its really something to behold.....
You have got to compare it to caliber 950, 920, or 922. 23jewel models pre 1930 are just incredible. You got to own them. ;-)
A pocket watch would be the type of watch I’d carry during occasions. To me, I value pockets watches because how unique they are. But for everyday, wrist watches.
I've watched both of your videos on your new pocketwatch. Congrats! Have you never considered what that little pocket is on top of the right side pocket in a pair of Levi 501's? Many people carry their pocketwatch in there. Enjoy! :) Now I've got to find my Dad's old Hamilton railroad watch!!!
Do a 23 jewel model 92 Waltham Vanguard next... you wont be disappointed... preferably an early 1900s version... I own 2 mintyzzz and wouldnt trade em for anything... including a Patek...🤣🤣🤣✌🏼🇨🇦
My daily watches are all pocket watches. They can absolutely be worn, especially with a vest.
Is your name actually Jonathan or Alfred?
@@hopey1809 nope! Nor Hercule :-)
6:31 Do any of the garments you ordinarily wear have a pocket? If so, you can "wear" (or carry) a Hamilton 992, you will not be arrested and jailed. A waistcoat or vest is not necessary, in fact makers of blue jeans still include a watch pocket and some slacks have an inner pocket which may be employed for this purpose.
That Hamilton! What a beaut!
I have my grandfather’s pocket watch chain, need the watch to go with it...
This guy knows how to tell a story.
And sell a watch, I’ll wager.
It is beautiful, I would buy a chain and a vest and wear it twice a week
Interesting review. Regards.
I actually own a year 1 992B. Serial number C1726. I still use it when I go out on the town.
My great great grandfathers 992 I still use too. Serial number 2508530
who?
@@Dreams- "Who" what? Me? Yes.
@@TheTarrMan No, WHO ASKED?
Get in there, Lew-sorry, wrong Hamilton.
The red arrow on the Calatrava looks kinda bad... I know it is really hard to draw a clean line on such a small scale. But PP should be the company to nail that.
At least archies Patek Philippe went to a good home
Great video! Keep up the good work!
Love this Channel, but guys, you Need to Change the background music already
My friend, spend a few more quid and get yourself a vest or two, with watch pockets naturally.
Really love how you really love your watch!
Because I don't have that kind of money... I can't own a swiss made Watch because of the ridiculous price...I just afford a Seiko and Casio watches... At least it's a high quality watch... MTG B1000 and Seiko Presage Cocktail
Make no mistake that Hamilton 992B does stack up give that patek Philippe a very good run for it’s money one you bought is railroad grade they are the best pocket watches in the world of their time they had be very highly accurate set to temperature and everything when you can take the back off railroad grade pocket watch the movement puts a smile on your face that’s high quality my friend very good video brother you never fail to deliver you are very intelligent on these watches my friend and humble..
Just a thought (after enjoying this video very much) how about against its distant grandchildren a modern day Hamilton?
Movement aside, the Hamilton has the far nicer dial. As far as I'm concerned, it's no contest.
Please do a review of Frederique Constant Slimline Monolithic Manufacture watch. I would love to hear your thoughts on the new development by FQ.
Thank you
Can someone tell me if the Hamilton 992 is s good buy as i see no reason why the 992b would be the better buy.
There is one thing that many don’t know but for black tie and white tie events u normally wear a. Pocket and not a wrist watch.
This is a men’s fashion rule and no matter what agent 007 is doing. This is the rule.
So no black or white tie is complete without a pocket watch. So whenever I have the opportunity to wear a black tie. My grandfathers massive Gold IWC is telling me time at that evening.
😄
Just in case someone likes pocket watches and thinks he could never wear them.
Here is the in my eyes really legitimate reason to have one.
They go well with jeans and t-shirt too! (Thats what that little pocket is for ;) )
@@timmainson True. 😁
It’s how they are similar, not different.
Right, where can I get one of those Hamilton’s?
Hi love the vids, keep them coming. Would you mind telling where you bought your Hamilton pocket watch please, thanks.
Why would you have an analog clock, obsolete, imprecise, delicate, which you should give care and maintenance, if you can see the time on your cell phone?
“Well, because... why not?”
With the 992b, you are holding an important piece of history that can be owned for small investment, besides the fact that its absolutely beautiful. You've been have me looking for one since your first video about the Hamilton.
They're both Swiss. Both are nice
That pocketwatch was made long before Hamilton became a Swiss marque. It is American through and through.
A swan's neck adjust, rubies set in chatons, and screwed balance; yes, a true no brainer!
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Please do memorigin brand "the harmony dragon and phoenix" video
Yknow those little pockets above the main pocket on the right hand side of your jeans? That design choice was originally meant to carry pocket watches, so if you really wanna be old fashioned, get a chain and carry it in there.
Also, people think way too deeply about the price of watches anyways. Get a watch that you'll enjoy, and that makes you feel happy and accomplished. With that mentality, people of any income at any level of society can get the same enjoyment out of collecting timepieces. I have a collection of nine watches with a collective value of maybe a few thousand dollars and I love them all as if they were worth millions.
That balance wheel on your Patek appears to have a wobble to it. It does not look as True as the Hamilton Balance wheel. As an American collector I Prefer Howard over Hamilton. I have a Edward Howard produced in the late 1870's that loses about 5 seconds a week. Not bad for a watch thats over 140 years old. Edward Howards were the premiere RR watches of the 1800's and 1900's
I thought I was the only one who noticed ... 😆😆😆 I've seen truer balances on 7j Caravelles made in Japan...😆😆😆☮🇨🇦
Ur Hamilton is a beautiful one 👍 congratulations on Ur ownership of some history in watch making art 😀
Precisely one year and 19 days ago, after a careful and long consideration, based on research and many arguments based in history and heritage, I offered a gift to myself: a Hamilton Khaki Pilot Day Date. I wanted a Swiss made mechanical. I wanted a watch that looks impressive and that has some ties to horological history. And since I am fond of Christopher Nolan's movies, and how he tied Hamiltons into the story of interstelar, I decided to reach for my wallet. But your channel, the storytelling behind it, your passion ar what inspired me to make a thought out choice that I am very happy with.
Two days later we went into the first lockdown. One year (and) 19 days later, I am still as happy with my choice as on the day I made it. I now have a Hamilton in common with you. Not the same caliber, not the same class, but a Hamilton nonetheless.
Anyone else admiring the $25k Patek while waiting for the AliExpress 11th anniversary sale to start? Just me? 😂
lol I live in China and don't even use Aliexpress
Proof that luxury watch prices are 49% branding, 49% low volume manufacturing inefficiencies, and 2% real value.
The luxury watch industry is shady AF
But if you buy into the marketing you will legitimately feel great about owning the watch, which is the purpose of luxury watches anyway. You feel great wearing them and enjoying them.
@@therodentryresistance95 The luxury anything industry is shady AF. From knives to staircases, there are a LOT of people out there with real cash to burn on the right look.
@@JasonX2 But can an engineer ever get past the fact that he paid £25 000 for something that would've cost £2500 if it was manufactured efficiently...
@@johnalexander2349 agreed
I’ve owned the 6006G. One of my biggest mistakes of my watch hobby. It feels flimsy and it looks out of balance.
I’m truly pleased to see how happy and excited you are about the new addition to your collection. This is what collecting is all about. Put it next to a 25k watch and still be happy... a win to be sure.
Love that Hamilton!
Would enjoy to see Nomos Lamda or Omegas newest Seamaster 300 be reviewed.
"mechanical eye bleach" what an expression! 👌🏼😁
Patek Phillippe is overhype and overpriced. They're making about 500% profit. It doesn't cost that much to design and produce a watch. People are just paying for the name just like Rolex. Grand Seiko can produce a competitive watch for a fraction of the cost.
Put it on a waistcoat, and you have instant wearability. I don't see why one of your best horological purchases should be confined to a desk job. It can be a great talking piece, especially with your voice.
Archie Luxury Has That Felix The Cat Patek
I have a 1893 Waltham watch that is ornately decorated that came to be by happenstance. A friend's great uncle had passed and the watch was part of his estate. My friend knew I was into watches and he said I would appreciate it more than he would. He is right. I am saving up to get the movement fixed. There are lots of shops in Waltham Mass. that specialize in these watches. After all over 40 million were made. Mine is around the 2 million mark.
I pulled out my 1917 Hamilton 972 lever-set while watching this video. I find a person wearing a pocket watch more interesting than one wearing a Rolex. I occasionally wear my modern Orient pocket watch (48C40 movement, 40mm case, sapphire crystal, power reserve meter) with jeans. The watch and fob fit well in the coin pocket of the jeans. I am then ready to give physics lessons on pendulums. A 25cm pendulum has a period very close to one second.
To hold an American railroad pocket watch is to hold a piece of history of a nation ascending. With what other epoch is that possible?
To answer your question, post-WWII Soviet watches represent a nation ascending as well. Hope was in the air and that was represented in their designs.
This channel is just incredible.
wonderful
“Because, why not?”....Good enough for me! 👍🏻
could you please dedicate a video to the newest Seiko watches that feature 6R15 or more recently 6R35 and explain why Seiko doesn't regulate those movements at all.
Thank You!
Yes, fun, and, a good lesson too. Thank you.