Tesla Model 3 vs. Nissan Leaf: Can the little Leaf shake Elon Musk fanatics?
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- Sure, you can get a Tesla Model 3 that will practically tear your face off with its acceleration, but the humble Leaf has its upsides too.
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My husband and I have a 2022 Leaf. At a quick charge station it takes about 15 minutes to get 25+% (depending on temps). Not too bad. We get over the 215 mile range using the e-pedal to regenerate some energy, which is an incredibly efficient way of driving, and very easy. Why some people make that sound so difficult I will never know. Very comfortable car with all the "bells and whistles" of heated seats and steering wheel, navigation, pro pilot assist and the list goes on for a fraction of what the Tesla costs right now.....and it's been around longer. Acceleration is immediate. We didn't want a status symbol, we wanted efficiency and low fuel costs. The Leaf doesn't stick out with excessive "futuristic" styling, but looks nice, and you don't see one at every intersection. I like that.
Love your reasoning! I just got a 2021 leaf s plus
@0:17 , whoever created that graphic, awesome job! It fits so well with the theme. You guys/gals are doing an excellent job with these videos and editing.
You critically forgot about reliability, maintenance costs and build quality/durability.
That goes to leaf
@@btbcc12859 lol battery degradation renders your comment not true.
@@Tom-cn4cm the comment isn't about battery life
@@btbcc12859 LOL
1.) Reliability. If my car suffers from severe degradation, then it's not a RELIABLE source of transportation.
2.) Maintenance costs. If my car suffers from severe degradation, then I might have to spend a lot of money replacing the battery, which I count as a maintenance cost.
3.) Build quality. This one seem obvious to me. If an EV suffers from severe amounts of battery degradation, then clearly it has bad build and design quality.
4. Durability. This one also seems obvious to me. The word durability is defined as "the ability to withstand wear, pressure, or damage." CLEARY the Leaf's battery does not meet the dictionary's definition for the word "durability".
@@btbcc12859 well, most of ev price are come from the battery, so battery durability in ev is very important
Tesla’s full self driving feature WAS $7,000 up until July 1. Now it’s increased to $8,000.
Tesla is scamming so many fools. If it ever arrives it won’t be worth it.
and my response on that has gone from "no I don't want that" to "awe hell no!"
spambuddyboy you get standard auto pilot for free. But FSD will be worth 100K one day. This is because it can be used as a taxi and earn passive income and pay for itself. If you buy FSD today the car will increase in value
Luke Otter That’s if it ever is released
Passive income by sending your car out to act as a taxi will never happen. Government will add so many regulations to full self driving protocols it won’t happen. Plus let’s say it does magically happen, all it will take is one drunken frat dude bro to puke in your car for you to nix further ride shares.
Leaf is better. I own both before. Still keeping my leaf. Their seats are the best.
And you very handily gloss over that the LEAF is still eligible for the $7500 tax credit. And in some states you can get a $5000 tax credit as well. Placing to price to distance to space well on the side of the LEAF. And the LEAF uses a charging system adopted the world over and not a proprietary system that adds to your cost.
That's because they can't sell their cars. Tesla was able to and paid that loan back. Other car companies are purposely making crap cars to get a federal credit on their taxes. Now Tesla will get 10,500k till 50% of all cars in the U.S are electric.
@@coffeebreak4888 clearly your part of the group that believe biased reporting of Tesla because it is a US company and believe the US is the only market in the world ... However, in the real world... The LEAF is one of the best selling models with one of the best maintenance and quality records. I hope this does not burst your bubble to badly... Or maybe you have other bubbles you can live in ..
Seeing as how Tesla can use any charging system out there, AND their turbo charging, I'd say Nissan just got handily spanked. Oh, and the upcoming (retroactive to 2021) EV tax will also likely negate the argument for making cheap EV's to get a credit.
@@chrnafLmao this aged like milk
@@seankelleher9438 I'm from the US and I trust Nissan more than Tesla which is saying something lmao
Very nicely done. Love the relaxed style.
One thing reviewer's of the model 3 seem to miss is the voice commands. I rarely touch the screen for stuff. You just push a button on the steering wheel and tell the car to change the music, or temp, or whatever. The screen is a beautiful nav map though.
So the leaf+ is more expensive than the baseline model 3, yet has less range with a bigger battery, even though the model 3 is physically larger. Oh, and the model 3 destroys it in performance and battery longetivity (since the leaf is just air cooled, not properly liquid cooled/heated).
Seems like a pretty clear win for Tesla to me.
They didn't mention the incentive, tax credit, and state rebates. Incentives are $3000-$7000 off from Nissan, up to $7500 tax credit, and up to $5000 state rebate. And I didn't include negotiation from MSRP which you can't do with a Tesla. So if you live in CO, NJ, or near DC, you can get a Leaf Plus for about $20k, about half the price of the SR+.
Haven't we seen this video before folks?!!!
They had errors the had to fix
YES
@@aceaiden2939 But did you 💩 and have cake as you sat on the throne Aiden?
@@wadebaker8617 Baker Baker Baker...come on man you can do this 💩. Focus and get it done.
The register to vote in 2024's election.
This is not related to this video, but I think Cooley should be given a bigger role in this channel
I have a first gen leaf and I love it, I also really like the model 3 however those are twice the price I paid for my leaf second hand with just 16k miles on it. I've always considered the leaf to be in phone terms to be the android car where as the model 3 to be the Apple, definitely better but much more expensive.
Nissan has better build quality tho!
Thanks for the comparison. I like how you compare the two. If you could add maintenance cost that would be awesome 😊
I have a leaf and love it but there’s no contest if dump it for a Tesla in a heartbeat
Love this format!
7:03 don’t forget though, it has voice commands that usually work, so you don’t have to look away from the road and go tapping around
Nice informative comparison review
how about some kind of standard chargin measure, like how to add 30 miles of distance, about 50 km at a level 2 charger.
The problem is that not all EVs are the same when it comes to charging. There are tons of variables outside of how warm/cold the batteries are.
Much better than the first video. The numbers were far more accurate this time around!
When comparing price... it's important to mention the federal tax credit. Up to $7,500 for Nissan, but zero for Tesla.
yes, I'm re-commenting on this video, but I think it's something you might want to consider. It looks like, while I was obsessing over electric pickup trucks, GM has quietly improved the Bolt. it now has 259 miles of range and the driver assists are about a grand. considering that's where the Leaf fell down in this comparison, I think it might be worth it to re-run the comparison only this time between the bolt and the model 3, or the bolt and the leaf.
Thanks so much for posting. I got the opporunity to see a rocket launch in 2018. Memorable experience. I uploaded a pretty cool video of the experience to my channel.
4:30 you didn't go over the cargo space in the frunk of the model 3
Nice comparison however (and with all due respect) the used car market for both is hugely in favour with the leaf wether its ex demo or cars with thousands of miles. At least here in the UK. Factor in discounts on the leaf when new and the gap in the UK is around 10k minimum. Cheers
You get HUGE discounts on the Leaf and I just did a 2 yr, 24k mile lease for $2500 up front and $69/month for a 40 kw model S with 149 mile range. It will take me anywhere in my living area I need to get to. For a road trip I will use my other car.
Tesla build quality is pretty poor. If you ask me, Tesla should have contracted a real automaker to assemble their cars. I have a 13 Leaf that has had nothing but tires in 65000 miles.
Ca you look at the Rivian R1T please? versus R1S and compare Tesla infotainment with Rivian's
1:53 charging is pretty much an exact science and it can be predictable, when you have all parameters. Charging curves can be consistent between sessions, if you have a decent Battery Management System.
Which happens to be another weak point of the air cooled Leaf, if it is charged multiple times a day, like a long trip or shorter one but full of cargo.
Not all CHAdeMo stations can provide the 100kW.
Very well made comparison. Thanks!
It's important to note that there is no more federal tax credit for Tesla, but the Leaf still has a full $7500. However, you have to be making enough money to be tax liable for $7500 to take full advantage of it and I think federal tax credit, in general, is just dumb and defeats the purpose of making an EV affordable for the mass. I bought the Model 3 Sr+ with $3750 tax credit, but I can't seem to take full advantage of it. However, I got a $2500 CA state rebate and $1000 rebate from SCE (Southern California Edison), so I guess that's something.
tax credit would probably work if you don't have any money withheld on your paycheck.
Apples and oranges in the UK as in different price brackets and aimed at different market sectors. Build quality and after service better with Nissan at the moment.
Love the voice
a second hand leaf is hard to beat for price for most who don't need the speed
A used LEAF makes a great city car ss long as it has the range you need, and you have good access to charging. It's getting harder and harder to find working CHAdeMO DC chargers these days, unfortunately,
What is wrong with this lady, give length and wheelbase in inches alone. Not feet and inches
no one does feet and inches, it's always inches.
Leaf STILL uses a passively air cooled battery. If you've read anything about reliability of past models due to this design flaw you'll know that means FORGET IT!
So your telling me a equally equipped leaf is more expensive then a Tesla model 3?? My gosh there is no comparison, how is Nissan selling any of these!
Because they have a larger production capacity than Tesla. They are able to keep up with the demand.
@@donnie8032 ....and maybe because the Leaf can handle the practical day for a family? I would love to have a Tesla model X, but then again I bought a Leaf. Go figure. Charging time doesn't mean much in practical use. 95% of the time you charge at home overnight. Tesla and Leaf is to compare apples and bananas.
They *did* sell a ton, now not so much. They were the first practical EV so people bought tons of them, now that Tesla has caught up with the Model 3 the Leaf isn't nearly as popular.
I have never gotten near the 499.9 km / 320 miles Tesla promised for my 3-LR. Still, I'm satisfied because the supercharger network is indeed fast and ubiquitous - roadtrips take longer but that's usually okay. I'd also prefer a LOT more cargo space - like a Tesla 3 wagon - because with kids and family we're all wedged in tight and it's not what you want for the $$. Basically in our experience this is a very good gen one version and gen two should be substantially better.
Just got a lease on LEAF S plus w/226 mi range for $199/month with no upfront cash. If you want to buy, the dealers are taking $6000 off the MSRP. Then they still have the $7500 tax rebate that Tesla no longer has. Try to get prices like that in a Tesla. Another problem for Tesla is they only have 120 service centers vs. 1082 Nissan Dealers. Nissan fit and finish are impeccable. TFL cars did a shock video on crash repair cost for a minor crash in the Tesla. The Leaf is just a great car to live with. Cheap to buy, cheap to own and is pretty trouble free.
Have I watched this video before or am I crazy???
There is no comparison...
Of course the leaf is like a flip phone to a iphone
I need the cargo space. Leaf it is.
@@aniellodimeglio8369 sure.
The interior alone should tell you what you're paying for. And also Tesla doesn't have much of a rebate anymore due to high production. Somehow the Leaf beat a Tesla on a track despite not having a liquid cooling system lol
Source? (For the track)
metric numbers please .. there are some people who live outside the US
You mean you don't want to know efficiency in furlongs per hamburger?
@@Mireaze 🤣🤣🤣
Why can't you just convert it? If I'm not in the Anglosphere, should I demand they repeat themselves in other languages for those of who speak one of the 6,000+ other languages on this planet?
Just convert it. It's that hard, is it?
@@nukewiller4083 Most countries add english translations on signs because most people understands english. SI is the international measurement system used globally except Myanmar and USA. It does make sense to use the globally recognised system. Even US scientists and engineers agree.
Prices are well out.
Why does this channel keep reuploading old videos?
Because there's a dangerous pandemic and they can't get much access to new cars to test anymore?
@@notrappaport5340 They could at least TAG reups.
I wonder which car is more reliable, I don't want to run after the service
If the criteria included quality metrics, the leaf would wipe out the Tesla. My obsession with quality has left me with Toyotas for a long time, and it feels strange to consider a Nissan or Hyundai, wanting an electric car. Quality issues with all Tesla's disqualify them from any consideration although their technology is superior. I would like to know my car door will open in a Canadian winter. Tesla owners sure do like their cars though (probably not former Toyota owners).
FSD is much more than just Autosteer on city streets lol...
Not yet it isn't, and it may never be. FSD may require LIDAR to work, which Tesla has never and still doesn't have on its cars. You can't sell a product today with what it might do in 15 years. I can't go to you with some potato juice in a bottle and charge you premium Vodka prices for it while saying "Yeah just keep it in your basement for 15-20 years and it'll be worth it."
@@Henriburger1 Sorry dude but you're painfully misinformed, and that can only stem from not ever having followed FSD development or witnessed it in action.
First off, between auto lane-change, reacting to traffic lights, and navigate on autopilot, FSD is way more than autosteer. In fact, that makes it more capable than any other system today, by far. The footage being posted from those testing beta is even more capable with 90+ degree turns and navigate on city streets. And this is a real and working product today!
Second, your point about LIDAR is shortsighted as that's exactly the path they went down during early development until they realized it's limitations and opted to go a different route. They've been there and done that. The problem with LIDAR is it's great when roads are as expected, it will never be able to handle unexpected changes or edge cases as well as Tesla's approach, and that's where the real challenge will be. LIDAR will always get stuck in local maximums. Tesla's cameras and sensors approach is designed to reach true level 5 autonomy with enough data fed into the neural network.
Speaking of data, nobody has a chance in hell to match Tesla's autopilot data intake rate right now. Their full fleet of almost a million vehicles equipped with autopilot are giving Tesla an enormous advantage to gather real world data and push out incremental improvements. This will be the key differeciating factor over time.
When I want a car, I want a car, not a ipad. Tesla M3 great car but really the center screen is a big problem for me, too much fidling needed while drinving, not intuitive like "German" type cars with every fonction easily accessible without getting eyes too much off the road.
Inches? When reporting about latest high tech vehicles! Is this for viewers in Myanmar?
Not even close
Fanatics ? Like some crazy people?
Low blow man low blow ......
Model 3 Alot better than leaf. Especially Handling , Speed and Style
After 100000km running leaf,I can't confirm any break down or Battery deterioration of Nissan Leaf .
oh wow nice.
just home charging?
any super fast charging?
The data is incorrect
Nissan leaf is a joke compared with tesla model 3! I would rather buy the cheapest tesla model 3 than the top of the range of Nissan leaf!
Proud LEAF owner here. Everyone has different buying parameters, so keep that in mind. When I leased 18 months ago, the 3 would have been a poor choice, so I did not get it. The LEAF was a perfect fit for me. Surprisingly, list price was not much of a factor in my decision.
@@martyscholes119 Nissan has the capability to build a fantastic car probably better than tesla but they don't want. Also why Nissan doesn't build charging stations like tesla? It is clear Nissan is not up to the job.
@@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs
Nissan is showing the Ariya on July 15th
We can all appreciate your opinion even if you present it as fact. The junk car you speak of is the #1 selling EV in the world. So what your really saying is you are awesome for getting a Tesla and the majority of EV buyers are stupid and fail at life ...got it.
@@seankelleher9438 Nissan leaf was the best selling ev because people didn't have a choice. Remember Nissan is worldwide but tesla is limited to few countries and teslas were vert expensive. Tesla model 3 will soon overtake if not already pass the leaf. With all respect madam, it would be silly to buy a car with lower range, slower, no autopilot, doesn't have its own superchargers on the motorway, can't be updated over the air. The price is almost the same.
Also, people are complaining about Nissan. Check ev man, fancy bev mate and many more. Some are putting huge batteries in the boot to try to increase the range lol.
Elon fanatics? lol... Tesla cars are just way way better... stop being silly.
Where have you ever seen a model 3 for less than 45k anywhere those are false numbers on pricing
User interface is a deal killer in the Tesla.
Yeah stupid touch screens, those new iphones will never catch on 😂
Comparing the LEAF to a Tesla (any Tesla) is pretty unfair. Why not compare it to something in the same market segment like a Chevrolet Bolt or a Hyundai Kona?
i only drive the leaf because i have no money
I'm not really sure what you are comparing here :D
The leaf is a super cheap electric vehicle not made for long range, while the tesla is a good long range sedan.
Just speaking of european numbers here but I got the small nissan Leaf for 23k€. The model 3 starts at 42k.
Both are eligible for a 6k bonus from german state which makes the model 3 twice as expensive.
The 60kw leaf is just a stupid car.
Tesla is so serious to create an electric car
BIG OMISSION: Charging Network! If you choose a Leaf over a Model 3, you are insane.
Definitely
Not a big enough price difference to justify getting the leaf
Those numbers are off I keep up with a Tesla with a Honda
The Leaf is the superior vehicle. Fit and finish is better, and materials are better quality.
that doesn’t mean that it’s better overall. The Model 3 has more tech, more range, better performance.
Lol The touchscreen is super easy to use, maybe not for old people like the reviewer, but for the rest of us it is.
The price difference is only a mid range Rolex away 🧐 next week you’re comparing the new Ford puma to a Bentley bentayga no doubt 🍆
Tesla is the future
No it's not.
Good comparison, agree tesla 3 better
If Nissan wants to do the same with their batter and performance you'll pay the same amount. I think the Leaf is better. The fact that it's a better deal. And the seats, Nissan is the best at comfort.
@@khmerbraveheart if Nissan wants to do the same thing with battery and performance you will pay the same thing, not just me, everybody will pay the same thing if they build as good as Tesla eight now. but right now Tesla with its charging stations etc is better. Ha Nissan ariya will be a different story for sure, I am waiting for it too.
@@Reddylion you know the Leaf in other countries are different. Cause U.S version is limited to insurance policies. The Infiniti M37 in China and Japan is way more luxurious than U.S version. Yes I'm getting Ariya. I bought my Wife a Leaf over medel 3 cause the trunk was better and seats were more comfortable. They didn't mention how Nissan makes the best seats.
@@khmerbraveheart China you mean the Wuhan virus 💩👎🙂 anyway ya nissan ariya will be better than leaf for sure ! Just curious what do you do , you have all those animation videos !
The obsolete Leaf is definitely not "here to stay"... Strike one and I'm not even 17 seconds in!
The LEAF was in production while Tesla was still doing those Allah awful Lotus conversions.
Can't compare equally (not worth comparing since model 3 is so much better) ... Leaf is the dollar store quality.
And the leaf looks like ass. Not in a good way.
Such a biased car review.
I'm so tired of hearing old people complain about Tesla's interface. Guh
*Fossils.
We all forget a Tesal model 3 is sitting on skateboard platform (a true EV platform) , whilst the Nissan is a glorified Versa with engine and tank swapped for batteries and motor in a compromised manner, So it's not an efficiently designed EV.
First mate
Vote for Biden in November 😎
Nissan won’t be a company in 3 years.
What?
Tesla sucks
LEAF ZE1 is the best EV
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Polestar 2, ID4, Q4 E tron, Ariya, Mach E, XC40 recharge. I’d buy any one of these before buying a horribly built Tesla.
Until when the battery is and you realise that the nearest or sometimes only available charging station is from tesla. Most etron owner's have been in than situation.
Google where and how Lithium is mined...☠☠☠☠
Tesla need to correct the car nose design, ugly ,,
7:02 Pure garbage ergos.
why anyone buys Nissan LEAF over model 3.