Agreed. It is baffling. Ric had some nice skills and was the best on the mic, but that inflates his legacy. The guy basically had the same, tired match: Chops, flops, flips, figure four or cheat. Hart was a much better wrestler and could adapt to a match.
Ric had an awesome work ethic. Sure he had a formula. So did Bret. Ric had limited skills, but he gave you every damn thing he had in him. Bret even admitted that.
Ric was a pretty good worker...although I HATED that damn stumble forward and fall flat on his face spot. He did it twice in the Royal Rumble he won, and it came off as so dumb. What I don't understand are how people go so insane over his promos. Every Flair promo I've ever heard, with the exception of the Royal Rumble ending promo, are nothing but a bunch of damn "WOOs." It starts grating on me very fast. Like every other word is WOO. I get really sick of that, and sometimes I want to smack people who go on and on about Ric's "amazing" promo abilities.
@@Goldenbane during the territory era hr had some awesome promos. While not a fan of his wrestling work past his Steamboat feud he was hysterical on the mic.
Bret under scored himself in my eyes. Always Frank and honest. Brilliant worker. I liked him back in the day when I was a kid (I was born in 83) but the more I learn about the business, the more I appreciate the qualities and abilities of the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be !
Bret Hart was one of, if not the best overall wrestler of all time. Ric Flair and The Undertaker were up there at his side, Mr. Perfect, Curt Hening should have been WWF Champion at least once, he deserved it, superb all around wrestler.
@@rswpt Bret couldn't tie Angle's shoes as a wrestler not the personality and charisma of Flair, Hogan, Cena, Austin, Rock, etc. One of the most overrated wrestlers of all time.
Bret Hart's promos skills got better during 1997 when he had his rivalries with Stone Cold Steve Austin and Shawn Michaels. To me that was peak Bret Hart and it was the emergence of the attitude era.
Bret is bang on about his own promos, they weren't always great. But when he had an issue he could sink his teeth into, he could bring it on the mic. I also think he had really good promos while feuding with Lawler & Owen. He was good at selling personal issue type feuds.
Exactly when Brett was pissed you felt that when he wasn't all into it you could feel that he was a genuine guy believe my opinion he does cry a lot about but who the f*** wouldn't cry about losing millions and millions over a life-changing injury I'd be pretty salty for the rest of my life I believe
Heart was the best in the ring and Flair the most charismatic of all time .Both are just amazing and I'm very happy I got to watch these two growing up as a kid.
I'll never forget one time Bret put the shades on this kid on his way to the ring in a match with Ric Flair and when Flair came to the ring,he ripped the shades off the kids face then stomped them on the ground while the child looked on and wept while his mother screamed at Flair. 😂
Come on, Bret vs Davey boy, vs Owen, vs Shawn Michaels. Ricky Steamboat was on of my favourite wrestlers of all time, his match against Savage is top 5 all time, he is the reason those matches against Flair were so good, not Flair. Bret could make any wrestler look good. Flair in the 90s and on was not at Bret's level. Flair was better on the Mic but name another wrestle who was a no 1 heel and no 1 baby face at the same time. In Canada, Europe and India Bret was a huge draw.
@@delroymckoy5470 so promos aren't important? 🤣 yeah it's not like that's what made guys like Stone Cold, Rock, Cena, Punk all greats Bret was a phenomenal wrestler, only an idiot would argue that. My point is he said he was a 7 or 8 promo....he's dreaming. On his best day his promo was a 2.
Bret was GARBAGE on the mic. All he could do was wrestle. He couldn't entertain and promote the business. Flair knew how to sell the business and sell out arenas. He was an entertainer.
really? rick was far better he worked his way to the top he lasted way longer he worked better with people bret was a brat that his dad owned the company he didn,t work well with others he cried about everything and everyone . he didn,t last long .i know he was injured but his career was over anyway his ego got so big he really thought he was the best there was or ever has been. he burn his own career down think about it .they gave him the belt he did not win it . they made him champ and he was going to screw everyone in that company by taking the belt to the other company and use that belt to make himself champ of the other place .wwf would have went under and bret would have been rich because he would have had 2 titles but vince was too smart and got the title away from him .only a fool would make him champ after that .whether he was hurt or not he was done .the guy who mainly talks bad about everyone . think about it hes a spoiled shit .
@@linchayes9007 let it go...so owen that was killed from there incompetence you'd let it go if it was your family I guess there's the difference between you and bret
@@1979augistine Don't get me wrong I like Bret but I would never go. back to a company that caused my brother's death..Vince McMahon is a money hungry devil with no consensus
Got to Ric Flair’s podcast and hear Bret and Flair squashed all theirs problems. Also on the internet you there’s a picture Bret and Flair giving each other a hug. They’re cool with each other. Tired of some people attacking Bret.
@@nanoblulovaolution4856 By November 1993, WCW decided to once again base the promotion around Ric Flair. This was seen as more or less a necessity after prospective top babyface Sid Vicious was involved in an incident with Arn Anderson (which resulted in hospitalization of both men)[43] while on tour in England eight weeks before Starrcade and was fired. Flair then placed his career on the line against Big Van Vader for the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. Flair won the title at Starrcade and was once again made booker.[44] That did not stop WCW from suffering massive financial losses in 1993, however; a staggering $23 million.[41]
@@HhhHhhh-nu4lm you're missing something, that's when the scandals were big in wrestling with the roids and such. Ric wouldn't be a top draw ever again as in 93 he was already way passed his best. He was great in the territories, horrible when wrestling went national. Bret wasn't the best draw either but he had a fanbase that was loyal and worldwide too. Flair was big in the south, and that was it. It's just hard to say, wrestling was in a bad place in the early to mid 90s and nothing could really stop it from going down.
@@sleazyfellow bret was huge draw wwe was never danger going out business. they were in black by sept 1997. jim ross said it was misconception they were doign 96 and 97 when their were beating wwe in live events. bret headlined 1 and ten highest attendend even in 90s . wwe lost money in 95 but business went up when bret beat nash. bret huge in usa and bigger everywhere else. in 88 nwa went bankrupy and still lost money until hogan came in..
I can believe what Bret is saying about Flair trying to sabotage the matches. Most people said that Flair did that when he worked with Scott Steiner back in 1993. Both Sid and Warrior said that Flair said "I don't know what to do with you". A bit of a pattern there. Flair could work with a broomstick and get it over...but he did it on his own terms.
He gives his acknowledged favorite wrestler of all time, The Dynamite Kid, a 9/10 and then himself a 10 in the ring. This would imply that Bret’s real favorite is Bret. I’d reverse those: Bret is a solid 9/10, but to this day, I’ve never seen any professional wrestling better than TDK vs. Tiger Mask (and others) over in Japan. Surreal.
It should be noted here that Bret and Ric are now good friends with one another, and Ric even admitted that Bret's criticism about him doing the same matches over and over was fairly accurate. Both Ric and Bret regret dissing each other a lot, and Ric even said that a lot of his comments about Bret's work came out of ignorance due to not paying attention to Bret's matches in the past. Ric also attributes much of the discord to the nature of the business, saying that it "makes us all a d*ck at some time or another."
With Bret Hart and Ric Flair you have two completely different... personalities. They just do not like each other. Each were very talented in their own way. Brett, says he is the best there is the best there was and the best that they ever will be. Well, Diamonds are forever and sooo is the " Nature Boy " Ric Flair. Whoooo.... I can tell you one thing for sure whether there were there 3, 000. people in the audience or 30,000 people in the audience you got the same Ric Flair. Ric, was almost killed in the plane crash. Lightning struck and killed a man standing right beside, Ric Flair. At 70 years young he is the 1.3 million dollar man. He was put in an induced coma for approximately a month in Hospital in Atlanta Georgia. He had to learn how to walk again. And Ric Flair still is the kiss stealin, Wheelin, dealin... limousine riding, jet flying...son of a gun. The Man, breathes excitement. Whooo....
For those of you that never saw Ric Flair between 1981-1991, you have no idea how great he was. I’m glad these guys buried their beef because they are both legends. It’s to bad half the country didn’t see Flair prior to 1991 and if Bret would have still been in the NWA he would have definitely had a legendary trilogy with Flair like Steamboat and Windham.
Bret's peak height was a smidgen over 5'11, so if he was 235, he had remarkable agility. I'm guessing that was rounded up from like 231 or 232 with all his clothes and boots on.
Ric didnt fit into the WWF because he wasnt a cartoon character. Rics look in 86 in Nwa was perfect. He wasnt going to look like what WWF looked like. Ric was a 10 out of 10 for a promo. He could talk anyone into a building. In the right place his look was a 9 to 10. Not in the WwF but in the NWA. His wrestling was 7 to 8. Bret was good but he certainly isnt on Ric's level.
Ric Flair was the worst wrestler ever. Annoying 1 dimensional character, terrible wrestler, lacked the look for a wrestler, horrible matches too. His daughter is actually a better wrestler than him. Ric Flair was not entertaining at all, he was horrible all around. Bret Hart had excellent matches and had technical skill and had a great look. He had great character, and very likable.
Hart is right about one thing..Him and Flair came from a different generation of in ring work. Nobody had a better character then Ric Flair, Now as far as in ring ability different times Ric was 70s -80s old schooler Hart late 80s early90s totally different more high flying stuff by this time Flair is getting on up in age and he approaches his matches totally different
It seems like wrestling ,all around, is a dirty and self-serving business. I watched it as a kid until I saw that it was all scripted and these men, good or bad, were subjected to all sorts of danger. Flair said that someone brought a rattlesnake to a match in Asheville N.C. one time and many have been injured permanently by honest mistakes in attempting crazy high flying moves just to help sell tickets. Rowdy Roddy Piper was stabbed and he surely wasn't the only one over the years. Even if they got well paid, and many of them did, the promoters got filthy rich while night after night, these men literally put their future and their health on the line. It's no wonder that some of them are ticked off at the business and each other ! I hope for all of them that they, like regular folks, leave the dope alone and prepare their souls for the next life...hopefully in heaven. Tough guys but somewhat overwhelmed even after their time in the ring was long since over. Like the old adage says...be careful what you wish for. Even millionaires have to meet our maker after we are n longer on Earth. They are in my prayers, too !
Bret is jealous of Ric..after 16,( really more 10 NWA World titles, 7 WCW World titles and 2 WWF/WWE World titles) to Bret's 7, Ric Flair will remembered forever Wooooo! For example, will Bret Hart be remembered outside Canada..I doubt it.
@@jasonhowell7170 The amount of times someone has the title doesn't mean anything. Look at the garbage HHH era and the mcmahon-helmsley era of absolute shit. All it takes is a keen knack for politics and a big brown nose and you can be champ a dozen times. The difference between Flair and Hart is when Hart held the title he was holding wrestling up as well and had great matches. Flair couldn't wrestle himself out of a paper bag. He was all promo and "whooos". Michaels was already doing the turn buckle flip better anyway. Flair even admitted in an interview he had no part in propping up either establishment during the monday-night wars. Bret did. Flair was a flabby sack of shit jiggling around in the ring.
@@jasonhowell7170 you dumb if you think Bret is jealous of flair. Bret has better career by far and is literally a hero in his own country. Ric flair is a racist and imo not a good entertaining wrestler.
@@jasonhowell7170 the whole wwe universe if not a dumb ass knows Bret is better than ric and you sound just as dumb if you think Bret won’t be remembered. Let’s not forget the dungeon has trained some of the best wrestlers
Flair was great, and better than Bret is giving him credit for. They had their beef, whatever. But Bret is legitimately one of the most impressive workers in history. I use to think Michaels was better, but as an adult Bret’s style has aged like a fine wine. Everything he does is just so crisp and perfect. He was incredible.
I can't say anything because I don't know these people personally only know them from TV growing up in the 90s Love them both and glad they're still with us.
Bret was the Greatest of all time. Ric stole and plagiarised everything from Buddy Rogers. He copied the strut, the figure four and the name “nature boy” from Buddy Rogers.
Brett Hart had ZERO charisma. He was TERRIBLE on the mic. Sure, Hart could wrestle. In the ring he was unbelievable. Hart was a hell of an athlete. Flair wasn't the greatest in the ring but he could entertain and draw money. Flair was on top for about 20 years. Hart was not. Flair knew how to promote the business better than anyone that ever lived.
@@DixiePokerAce I will agree to disagree here. Bret was great on the mic when he tuned heel, but yes he wasn't great on the mic as a baby face. People tend to forget how Bret was not only the best technical wrestler of all time (according to Kurt Angle on his new podcast), but an innovator. He brought the ladder match to the WWE. Was the first to go through a table on WWE PPV. He invented the figure four around the ring post. Bret could not only wrestle technically well, but could help get others over because he was a master at story telling and in ring psychology. About charisma, this is very subjective because I think he was while you clearly think he had ZERO charisma. Flair had the exact same match over and over again. Finally, who else could pull off wearing pink, other than the greatest of all time Bret Hart ;).
Ric flair had hundreds of hour long matches . Bret had like five and everyone talks like Bret was so great. But talking about using the same moves every match . Brets were cookie cutter matches. He had about 15 move and holds. And Ric could work with anyone, Bret had problems with some people. . Not that Bret was not great performer but Ric was in the same league if not higher. So yes Ric is the G.O.A .T
@Shawn Stuckey Clark zYou remember the old Flair go back and watch him from the early 70's to mid 80's his matches with Steamboat in 1978 and 1989 were classics. Best to you guys.
You're going to have Flair fans and you're going to have Bret's fans....and fans are going to be on the side of their favorite that's all....that being said the Flair v Steamboat match in 89 is still to this day is still viewed as the greatest match ever.....think about that one
Bret is a world champion, so his scores are definetley not infalted. If he didnt check those boxes so high he wouldnt be world champ, although you can argue about the numbers hes really spot on where is biggest strength was, his "worst" category being the promos is also a pretty spot on reflection.
Bret and Ric's ongoing feud is interesting to me because they really were quite different as wrestlers, as in the product they put out. Bret was a brilliant technician and athlete. His wrestling movies were miles above Flair on his best day, and he had good variety in his matches, whereas Flair really did do the same match most nights. However, Flair had such a good gimmick and personality, especially when working as a heel. Flair's imminent beating was engineered to please the crowd, and Naitch knew how to time it to perfection. Bret on the other hand had the personality of a piece of toast. No mic skills, no interesting angles: whether he won or lost didn't really matter to most fans. It's very hard to articulate, but some wrestlers like Hogan, Flair and The Rock just bring an electricity that really connects with people. Bret didn't have that, as magnificent an athlete as he was.
A bit harsh on Bret. His dry personality hurt his drawing power no doubt. But I would argue he was one of the best at getting the crowd to invest in the psychology of the match. Perhaps almost too creative (same could be said for Shawn Michaels as well) to be a top guy in the vein of a Flair, Hogan, Austin or Rock. Part of the mass appeal of those guys was that they had a well reheated routine incorporated into their acts that fans would pay to see.
Has some good points. But give Bret a storyline or feud and he definitely give his best, though not as animated and crowd drawing as Hulk, Warrior or The Rock.
Prime Flair could out wrestle Bret anytime or anyday while having 10 times the charisma and personality. Flair wrestled multiple 45min to 1 hour matches and made guys such as Sting and Luger into legends. Bret had no charisma and was one of the lowest drawing champions ever. No one cared about Bret which is why Vinve kicked his butt to the side.
One thing about Bret is that he cant stop taking shots at Hulk Hogan. Bret let it the hell go because the schtick on hating Hulk is getting old. You dont like him fine, you "think" he screwed you fine. But do we have to hear it in EVERY SINGLE INTERVIEW??? I do agree with Bret about Flair being called the Greatest Wrester Ever. I will agree with him that Flair wasnt, not even close. But the Hogan hate thing he needs to bury it and let it go.
Love Ric Flair he's my all time favorite, it was just something that didn't fit in the WWE no matter what they tried he just didn't belong in the WWE, maybe it was because he was stuck in the 70s and was used to do things a certain way....I think Bret was also used to during things a certain way during his era and when you put those two different philosophies you get what you get
Flair has bones of steel. I dont know how he withstood such punishment to his back, to his hip, to his arms. I have seen wrestlers out because of injuries. When he was younger listening to him was incredible. So for resilience he is the best. For show Goldberg drove fans crazy, more than the ultimate warrior. Overall Hulk Hugan was a very fine wrestler. Good body like Lesnar but Lesnar lack Charisma of Warrior and Goldberg. His talking is just inferior. Undertaker was an impresive wrestler with that dark character. All them worked very hard in the gym.
Its the big question, when it comes to the "best technical wrestler" in American pro wrestling, it would either be Brett Hart or Ric Flair... if they both didnt shoot on each other so much, so therefore Mark "Rollerball" Rocco is the greatest "technical wrestler" because nobody ever heard him ever shoot shit on his colleagues
Ric Flair, Bret Hart and The Undertaker are for me the best wrestlers of all time. Mr. Perfect deserves a honorable mention here, he was amazing. Too bad Sgawn Michaels was such a maggot backstabber, he had the skill, but not the integrity to be included in that strict list of the very greats.
Very unpopular opinion I'm assuming. However, if people will sit back for a second and think about it - maybe you will agree (if youre my age or younger). I'm 33... my entire time of watching wrestling, which started around 5 years old. Flair was never over, like the "memories" other wrestlers and fans portray him to have been, while I was watching. It was ALL before my time. Sure he got a pop in WWE as the old man, but as a legend, not because he was some great active wrestler. The entire time I watched him in WCW he was a complete dud. He didnt sell tickets, he didnt put people in the seats. The whole show, the crowd, everything was all about NWO, DDP, Goldberg, and Sting. The WCW did nothing at all for Flair nor Piper during that era (the era I grew up on). So, going off of just what I witnessed Live and at that time, I would say Flair is tremendously overrated.
Hes not over rated, he was just way past his prime. When he was great and everyone was talking about him, there was a time when he was a heal and he had a crew like the NWO. The four horsemen, they tried to do it again in WCW. It worked but just not like before. In his prime people LOVED it, because they understood him. By the time he tried 4 horseman again WCW, it was wrestlers that respected him. So thats it, he just held weight because of his legendary stories in the cities and countries hes toured. But theres not too many wrestlers at 60 on HD TV wrestling on the biggest wrestling show of the yr, come on.... Ric is the last of a DEAD breed. Its hard to compare him to anyone.
He was never a focal point during your era, he was a bit comedy & mostly on the losing end during the Nitro era. You can't eval his career unless you watch his matches in the 70's & 80's. He drew plenty of crowds during that time, he traveled the world as the NWA champ. There was a reason he ws getting paid a million per year during his prime. He's not overrated when you eval the entire body of work.
From what I have seen on YT Flair said that towards the end of his WWF tenure he had an inner ear issue with balance and thus could hardly do anything properly in the ring and was very slow. I am surprised neither Vince nor Bret knew this.
Bret seems to always have wanted things to go his way but if we're honest he never earned that level of starpower to demand it. Hearing him talk in this clips, it's not hard to see how Montreal ended up happening to him. Bret's perception of himself never aligned with how the promoters saw him. I think Bret wanted Hogan treatment
Sorry Brett. But you are not original. You stole stings whole act and look minus the facepaint. The sharpshooter is without a doubt the scorpion death lock.We are not that stupid dude.
Well... The thing with Ric's "same old match" is that you can easily remember most of his best. Flair/Steamboat Flair/Sting Flair/Hogan Flair/Perfect Flair/Foley Flair/Michaels Etc etc etc. Bret? As good he was, the only matches I can clearly remember of his were the ones with Austin, and that was more about Austin than Bret. That's not a ding on Bret, he WAS good, simply saying that there's something to be said about consistency, too.
Bret ain't lying about the odd finishes with Flair after he got the strap. I know Flair missed some time due to an injury so Bret was wrestling Nailz, Papa shango and the mountie for like a month, then Flair wrestled Bret until he was let go. Those matches with Nailz must have been some barn-burners
I agree with Bret i never understand that Ric Flair gets all this praise..i like a few things he did in the ring but i think his character took him farther than his in ring work
He lost respect from me. He talks about Flair having the same matches, ie, repeat moves in all his matches, but he fails to mention that his move set was the same as well. He used all his moves in every match as well. He's bitter from his career ending on the terms it was under. I don't recall hart carrying a match for an hour or more, keeping the audience attracted to what's going on as Flair did. Flair had numerous matches that went thirty minutes plus.
@@daviduribe6534 I think 🤔 the key 🔑 word is Numerous.... Ric Flair would sometimes do 30-60 minute matches on a regular basis in the 80's outdoors during the Great American Bash Tour.... as I recall reading 📚 the nights were often brutally hot and humid....
always always always. cry baby Bret cryin again. everyone else sucked so much, and my matches are so great and stand the test of time, blah blah, annoying and a total whiney old grouch
To his credit, he does give the nature boy his props. They just didnt mesh well due to their different styles of work. He's buried people far deeper than this (HHH, Ultimate warrior). Flair was far less even keeled about his assessment of Bret Hart.
Flair was great to work with most guys, he'd make an awefully green wrestler look great but with a next level guy like Bret Hart, who might literally be the best of the next generation, it's hard to do the fancy shit he could bring. Being the younger great wrestler Bret was super conscious of what made him next level. Bret pushed himself to be the greatest and he can't help but see few other people could do what he did. Sometimes he comes of as a bit of a douche for speaking on it but you know... the greats can act like this sometimes. Flair did too, he talked a lot of shit. When you're great, you realize the difference between you and others... if you didn't think like that you probably wouldn't be that great. This being the case, I rather Bret and others be honest with their thoughts than just being nice. Everybody can be nice, a great criticizing an other, that's interesting.
Flair’s wrestling is nowhere near an 8 lol. Same cheesy shit every match. Chops, flops, eye pokes, low blows, figure four leg lock. Bret could wrestle so many different types of matches! No two Bret matches look exactly alike. Almost every Flair match is exactly the same!
Totally agree,Bret explains it all well!He doesn't up himself either compared to the some ego wrestlersl🤔But yeah Rick had the glitter ect but he in my opinion looked a bit slow and the same routine nothing really e xcited me to watchIng the match. He did do comical moves such made me laugh though!
Similar, I'd just add a 6 for promo for Bret, and I'd take 1 or 2 point away from Flair's look. The suits and gators were cold af, but after that he had an old looking body throughout his whole career.
Love bret hart interviews. He is brutally honest. his opinion on Rick Flair is spot on too, flair was always overrated and i never understood what the big deal was about him.
Agreed. It is baffling. Ric had some nice skills and was the best on the mic, but that inflates his legacy. The guy basically had the same, tired match: Chops, flops, flips, figure four or cheat. Hart was a much better wrestler and could adapt to a match.
Ric had an awesome work ethic. Sure he had a formula. So did Bret. Ric had limited skills, but he gave you every damn thing he had in him. Bret even admitted that.
& the occasional body flip over turnbuckle
Ric was a pretty good worker...although I HATED that damn stumble forward and fall flat on his face spot. He did it twice in the Royal Rumble he won, and it came off as so dumb. What I don't understand are how people go so insane over his promos. Every Flair promo I've ever heard, with the exception of the Royal Rumble ending promo, are nothing but a bunch of damn "WOOs." It starts grating on me very fast. Like every other word is WOO. I get really sick of that, and sometimes I want to smack people who go on and on about Ric's "amazing" promo abilities.
@@Goldenbane during the territory era hr had some awesome promos. While not a fan of his wrestling work past his Steamboat feud he was hysterical on the mic.
@Richard Klosterman: glad someone finally said it!!! Those face flops exposed the business!!!
Bret under scored himself in my eyes. Always Frank and honest. Brilliant worker. I liked him back in the day when I was a kid (I was born in 83) but the more I learn about the business, the more I appreciate the qualities and abilities of the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be !
Always "Frank" is right, "I didn't get to do it 'my way'" that's what Bret was all about, himself
He was never the best in anything he did. His matches were great if I needed to go to sleep.
Bret Hart was one of, if not the best overall wrestler of all time. Ric Flair and The Undertaker were up there at his side, Mr. Perfect, Curt Hening should have been WWF Champion at least once, he deserved it, superb all around wrestler.
@@rswpt Bret couldn't tie Angle's shoes as a wrestler not the personality and charisma of Flair, Hogan, Cena, Austin, Rock, etc. One of the most overrated wrestlers of all time.
Bret Hart's promos skills got better during 1997 when he had his rivalries with Stone Cold Steve Austin and Shawn Michaels. To me that was peak Bret Hart and it was the emergence of the attitude era.
Curt Hennig look=10 promo=10 in ring work=10 now that's Perfect
Curt wasn’t a 10 in look. Not very memorable
@@TheJohnCooperShow yeah well..that's just like.. your opinion man
@@HighFalutinTootin mr perfects look wasn’t iconic. It was just him in a spandex onesie.
@@TheJohnCooperShow you remember it...seems like it worked
@@HighFalutinTootin lol
Bret is bang on about his own promos, they weren't always great. But when he had an issue he could sink his teeth into, he could bring it on the mic. I also think he had really good promos while feuding with Lawler & Owen. He was good at selling personal issue type feuds.
I think Bret is right flair was not great in the ring. Athletically he was limited at what he did.
Exactly when Brett was pissed you felt that when he wasn't all into it you could feel that he was a genuine guy believe my opinion he does cry a lot about but who the f*** wouldn't cry about losing millions and millions over a life-changing injury I'd be pretty salty for the rest of my life I believe
Heart was the best in the ring and Flair the most charismatic of all time .Both are just amazing and I'm very happy I got to watch these two growing up as a kid.
I'll never forget one time Bret put the shades on this kid on his way to the ring in a match with Ric Flair and when Flair came to the ring,he ripped the shades off the kids face then stomped them on the ground while the child looked on and wept while his mother screamed at Flair. 😂
I love bret, he's probably my all time fav but come on. He's the originator of the 5 moves of doom. Every single match.
hart foundation rocked
Bret hey guy. Father time didn't do you right eh buddy. Ric flair on the other hand has aged gracefully!
Ric Flair was the greatest had the best matches, Pat, Bret, and Vince had good matches.
Ricky Steamboat vs Rick Flair was one of the best matches ever.
@@herefortheluls2267 Several of the best matches ever, actually. 🍾
Come on, Bret vs Davey boy, vs Owen, vs Shawn Michaels. Ricky Steamboat was on of my favourite wrestlers of all time, his match against Savage is top 5 all time, he is the reason those matches against Flair were so good, not Flair. Bret could make any wrestler look good. Flair in the 90s and on was not at Bret's level. Flair was better on the Mic but name another wrestle who was a no 1 heel and no 1 baby face at the same time. In Canada, Europe and India Bret was a huge draw.
Ric flair had the same match man. Come on
I prefer Ric Flair over Bret Hart. At the end of the day, mic skills and look are more important than technical skill.
Yeah, clear evidence of look and mic skills carrying much more weight than wrestling skills looking at most popular wrestlers of all time.
Bret is such a mark. He was no where remotely close to being over as Flair.
Id take the Hitman over Flair any day.
Agreed, as a performer and as a human being.
@@alwaysamysteryyes2021 And the '97 Hart promos bury anything Flair ever did.
Acts 2:36-42 predominantly verses 37-39 changed my life. UPCI church locator for a church near u.
Bret was a 2 on the mic....at a stretch.
Compared to flair yes.
Who cares about how u talk,it's who's the better wrestler
@@delroymckoy5470 wrong. Promo is so important. Its a key element of being a great worker
@@delroymckoy5470 so promos aren't important? 🤣 yeah it's not like that's what made guys like Stone Cold, Rock, Cena, Punk all greats
Bret was a phenomenal wrestler, only an idiot would argue that.
My point is he said he was a 7 or 8 promo....he's dreaming. On his best day his promo was a 2.
Bret was GARBAGE on the mic. All he could do was wrestle. He couldn't entertain and promote the business. Flair knew how to sell the business and sell out arenas. He was an entertainer.
really? rick was far better he worked his way to the top he lasted way longer he worked better with people bret was a brat that his dad owned the company he didn,t work well with others he cried about everything and everyone . he didn,t last long .i know he was injured but his career was over anyway his ego got so big he really thought he was the best there was or ever has been. he burn his own career down think about it .they gave him the belt he did not win it . they made him champ and he was going to screw everyone in that company by taking the belt to the other company and use that belt to make himself champ of the other place .wwf would have went under and bret would have been rich because he would have had 2 titles but vince was too smart and got the title away from him .only a fool would make him champ after that .whether he was hurt or not he was done .the guy who mainly talks bad about everyone . think about it hes a spoiled shit .
Flair doesn't seem to respect women. Hes divorcing again...
I believe rick would do this
Bret doesnt come close to flair.
Flair greatest of all time. Period.
Baffling
Wooooo
Brets one big crybaby.
Bret is the worst
Every ric flair match was identical. Flair didn't sell tickets the dream did !
Wrong without Ric ticket sales went down.
@@edwardclement102 American dream sold them tickets. Flair was to predictable
I can't stand Bret Hart he's the biggest crybaby in wrestling
I lost respect for him when he went back and worked with McMahon..hell McMahon's company caused his brother's death. Damn man.
@Dennis Leavitt I don't blame him at all, but don't you think at some point it's time to let it go
@@linchayes9007 let it go...so owen that was killed from there incompetence you'd let it go if it was your family I guess there's the difference between you and bret
@@jasonhowell7170 yeah Bret should have never went back they did Owen wrong for sure
@@1979augistine Don't get me wrong I like Bret but I would never go. back to a company that caused my brother's death..Vince McMahon is a money hungry devil with no consensus
Nope brets look was a 9 easy. I used to love it when he came out with the pink shades on. And when he gave the shades to a kid then he hit the 10.
Jeez you definitely don't know what makes a wrestler then, especially when it comes to their size.
Brets look was an 8 but charisma was a 1
Bret and Flair squashed all the problems between them. They’re friends now.
Got to Ric Flair’s podcast and hear Bret and Flair squashed all theirs problems. Also on the internet you there’s a picture Bret and Flair giving each other a hug. They’re cool with each other. Tired of some people attacking Bret.
@@nanoblulovaolution4856 By November 1993, WCW decided to once again base the promotion around Ric Flair. This was seen as more or less a necessity after prospective top babyface Sid Vicious was involved in an incident with Arn Anderson (which resulted in hospitalization of both men)[43] while on tour in England eight weeks before Starrcade and was fired. Flair then placed his career on the line against Big Van Vader for the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. Flair won the title at Starrcade and was once again made booker.[44] That did not stop WCW from suffering massive financial losses in 1993, however; a staggering $23 million.[41]
@@HhhHhhh-nu4lm you're missing something, that's when the scandals were big in wrestling with the roids and such. Ric wouldn't be a top draw ever again as in 93 he was already way passed his best. He was great in the territories, horrible when wrestling went national. Bret wasn't the best draw either but he had a fanbase that was loyal and worldwide too. Flair was big in the south, and that was it. It's just hard to say, wrestling was in a bad place in the early to mid 90s and nothing could really stop it from going down.
@@sleazyfellow bret was huge draw wwe was never danger going out business. they were in black by sept 1997. jim ross said it was misconception they were doign 96 and 97 when their were beating wwe in live events. bret headlined 1 and ten highest attendend even in 90s . wwe lost money in 95 but business went up when bret beat nash. bret huge in usa and bigger everywhere else. in 88 nwa went bankrupy and still lost money until hogan came in..
@@sleazyfellow th-cam.com/video/zhTUDnKLrvA/w-d-xo.html
Bret evaluated himself well. Pretty honest. Miss seeing him work
Disagree
Joe Tamburello about what part?
Yeah i love him great guy
That's one great thing about Bret, his consistent answers and storytelling.
It isn't perfect, but credible enough.
Depends on his mic skills when he was pissed u felt it, tell me im a lie
Ric Flair is the most overated wrestler ever.
Replace Bret Hart with Ric Flair and you're be correct.
Piper was a 15 on promos, it carried him all the way to Hollywood, where unlike Hogan, Piper did decently on the big screen
Everyone that bangs on Hart should listen to his own self critique, he’s pretty tough and honest. He seems to be that way about everything
I can believe what Bret is saying about Flair trying to sabotage the matches. Most people said that Flair did that when he worked with Scott Steiner back in 1993. Both Sid and Warrior said that Flair said "I don't know what to do with you". A bit of a pattern there. Flair could work with a broomstick and get it over...but he did it on his own terms.
He gives his acknowledged favorite wrestler of all time, The Dynamite Kid, a 9/10 and then himself a 10 in the ring. This would imply that Bret’s real favorite is Bret. I’d reverse those: Bret is a solid 9/10, but to this day, I’ve never seen any professional wrestling better than TDK vs. Tiger Mask (and others) over in Japan. Surreal.
@@DeeEllEff flair steamboat
It should be noted here that Bret and Ric are now good friends with one another, and Ric even admitted that Bret's criticism about him doing the same matches over and over was fairly accurate. Both Ric and Bret regret dissing each other a lot, and Ric even said that a lot of his comments about Bret's work came out of ignorance due to not paying attention to Bret's matches in the past. Ric also attributes much of the discord to the nature of the business, saying that it "makes us all a d*ck at some time or another."
Dude bret won the wrestling rap war lol 😂 he killed rick flair. Same match every night
Bretts. The best technician of all time. 💯.
Something to consider is that those weird finishes happened often in the NWA/WCW. Guys won titles with backslides and high cross bodies.
With Bret Hart and Ric Flair you have two completely different... personalities. They just do not like each other. Each were very talented in their own way. Brett, says he is the best there is the best there was and the best that they ever will be.
Well, Diamonds are forever and sooo is the " Nature Boy " Ric Flair. Whoooo....
I can tell you one thing for sure whether there were there 3, 000. people in the audience or 30,000 people in the audience you got the same Ric Flair. Ric, was almost killed in the plane crash. Lightning struck and killed a man standing right beside, Ric Flair.
At 70 years young he is the 1.3 million dollar man. He was put in an induced coma for approximately a month in Hospital in Atlanta Georgia. He had to learn how to walk again. And Ric Flair still is the kiss stealin, Wheelin, dealin... limousine riding, jet flying...son of a gun.
The Man, breathes excitement.
Whooo....
For those of you that never saw Ric Flair between 1981-1991, you have no idea how great he was. I’m glad these guys buried their beef because they are both legends. It’s to bad half the country didn’t see Flair prior to 1991 and if Bret would have still been in the NWA he would have definitely had a legendary trilogy with Flair like Steamboat and Windham.
And that big mouth Buddy Landel...😉
Make it 1978-1989 then we good but I understand you. These millennials are too young for ric flair
Wasn’t Ric also having some equilibrium problems at the time? I thought that was why he dropped the title.
Yeah the same equilibrium problems he got after the matches still plague him.
Bret's peak height was a smidgen over 5'11, so if he was 235, he had remarkable agility. I'm guessing that was rounded up from like 231 or 232 with all his clothes and boots on.
Sounds like Bret wanted to travel across America making Flair tap to the sharpshooter every night and Flair wanted to protect himself lol.
That may be accurate 😂
Ric didnt fit into the WWF because he wasnt a cartoon character. Rics look in 86 in Nwa was perfect. He wasnt going to look like what WWF looked like. Ric was a 10 out of 10 for a promo. He could talk anyone into a building. In the right place his look was a 9 to 10. Not in the WwF but in the NWA. His wrestling was 7 to 8. Bret was good but he certainly isnt on Ric's level.
Brett is boring as fuck
His steam boat matches where 10/10
Bret was a way better wrestler then Ric and was decent on the mic.
Ric sucked in the ring, and was just a loud mouth on the mic.
@@doubleM1986 flair sucked in the ring? Now I've heard it all.
@@doubleM1986someone was too young to have witnessed flair's prime from 1978-1989
Ric Flair was the worst wrestler ever. Annoying 1 dimensional character, terrible wrestler, lacked the look for a wrestler, horrible matches too. His daughter is actually a better wrestler than him. Ric Flair was not entertaining at all, he was horrible all around.
Bret Hart had excellent matches and had technical skill and had a great look. He had great character, and very likable.
Ric Flair
Look 9/10
In ring ability 5/10
Promos 10/10
24/30
Bret Hart
Look 9/10
In Ring Ability 10/10
Promos 6.5/10
25.5/30
Bret better
Chris Jericho
Look 9/10
In ring ability 10/10
Promos 10/10
@@justinwilliams9262 look 9.5/10 with long hair,7 3/4/10 with short hair
Your math is off
Hart is right about one thing..Him and Flair came from a different generation of in ring work. Nobody had a better character then Ric Flair, Now as far as in ring ability different times Ric was 70s -80s old schooler Hart late 80s early90s totally different more high flying stuff by this time Flair is getting on up in age and he approaches his matches totally different
Ric Flair was a better champ then bret ever was. Bret was boring not only on the mic but the ring as well. He was a 1 at best in all categories.
It seems like wrestling ,all around, is a dirty and self-serving business. I watched it as a kid until I saw that it was all scripted and these men, good or bad, were subjected to all sorts of danger. Flair said that someone brought a rattlesnake to a match in Asheville N.C. one time and many have been injured permanently by honest mistakes in attempting crazy high flying moves just to help sell tickets.
Rowdy Roddy Piper was stabbed and he surely wasn't the only one over the years.
Even if they got well paid, and many of them did, the promoters got filthy rich while night after night, these men literally put their future and their health on the line. It's no wonder that some of them are ticked off at the business and each other !
I hope for all of them that they, like regular folks, leave the dope alone and prepare their souls for the next life...hopefully in heaven. Tough guys but somewhat overwhelmed even after their time in the ring was long since over. Like the old adage says...be careful what you wish for. Even millionaires have to meet our maker after we are n longer on Earth. They are in my prayers, too !
He said he was locked in the 70s and couldn't get out. Lmao
Bret is jealous of Ric..after 16,( really more 10 NWA World titles, 7 WCW World titles and 2 WWF/WWE World titles) to Bret's 7, Ric Flair will remembered forever Wooooo! For example, will Bret Hart be remembered outside Canada..I doubt it.
@@jasonhowell7170 The amount of times someone has the title doesn't mean anything. Look at the garbage HHH era and the mcmahon-helmsley era of absolute shit. All it takes is a keen knack for politics and a big brown nose and you can be champ a dozen times. The difference between Flair and Hart is when Hart held the title he was holding wrestling up as well and had great matches. Flair couldn't wrestle himself out of a paper bag. He was all promo and "whooos". Michaels was already doing the turn buckle flip better anyway. Flair even admitted in an interview he had no part in propping up either establishment during the monday-night wars. Bret did. Flair was a flabby sack of shit jiggling around in the ring.
@@jasonhowell7170 you dumb if you think Bret is jealous of flair. Bret has better career by far and is literally a hero in his own country. Ric flair is a racist and imo not a good entertaining wrestler.
@@timyumichuck9262 exactly
@@jasonhowell7170 the whole wwe universe if not a dumb ass knows Bret is better than ric and you sound just as dumb if you think Bret won’t be remembered. Let’s not forget the dungeon has trained some of the best wrestlers
Flair was great, and better than Bret is giving him credit for. They had their beef, whatever. But Bret is legitimately one of the most impressive workers in history. I use to think Michaels was better, but as an adult Bret’s style has aged like a fine wine. Everything he does is just so crisp and perfect. He was incredible.
Bret is the Goat
I can't say anything because I don't know these people personally only know them from TV growing up in the 90s
Love them both and glad they're still with us.
Bret was the Greatest of all time. Ric stole and plagiarised everything from Buddy Rogers. He copied the strut, the figure four and the name “nature boy” from Buddy Rogers.
Just about EVERY gimmick was copied off of someone else. Flair did get a lot of his act from Rogers but he took it much, much further than Rogers did.
Brett Hart had ZERO charisma. He was TERRIBLE on the mic. Sure, Hart could wrestle. In the ring he was unbelievable. Hart was a hell of an athlete. Flair wasn't the greatest in the ring but he could entertain and draw money. Flair was on top for about 20 years. Hart was not. Flair knew how to promote the business better than anyone that ever lived.
@@DixiePokerAce just about yes.....and Bret would be an exception then since he didn’t copy anyone. That makes him unique and one of a kind.
@@DixiePokerAce I will agree to disagree here. Bret was great on the mic when he tuned heel, but yes he wasn't great on the mic as a baby face. People tend to forget how Bret was not only the best technical wrestler of all time (according to Kurt Angle on his new podcast), but an innovator. He brought the ladder match to the WWE. Was the first to go through a table on WWE PPV. He invented the figure four around the ring post. Bret could not only wrestle technically well, but could help get others over because he was a master at story telling and in ring psychology. About charisma, this is very subjective because I think he was while you clearly think he had ZERO charisma. Flair had the exact same match over and over again. Finally, who else could pull off wearing pink, other than the greatest of all time Bret Hart ;).
Ric flair had hundreds of hour long matches . Bret had like five and everyone talks like Bret was so great. But talking about using the same moves every match . Brets were cookie cutter matches. He had about 15 move and holds. And Ric could work with anyone, Bret had problems with some people. . Not that Bret was not great performer but Ric was in the same league if not higher. So yes Ric is the G.O.A .T
Before Vince Jr took over every world champion had to wrestle to hr draws. Wwwf and nwa were same when they wanted wrestlers to wrestle hr long draws.
Brett was a 8 worker
4 look
2 charisma
Dream Match: Bret Hart vs Dory Funk Jr. If they wrestled in the same era this would've been one of the greatest wrestling matches ever.
Flair is overrated
@Shawn Stuckey Clark zYou remember the old Flair go back and watch him from the early 70's to mid 80's his matches with Steamboat in 1978 and 1989 were classics. Best to you guys.
@Shawn Stuckey Clark Well said..he did do the same match when he got old..but great points on your insights..best to you my friend.
You're going to have Flair fans and you're going to have Bret's fans....and fans are going to be on the side of their favorite that's all....that being said the Flair v Steamboat match in 89 is still to this day is still viewed as the greatest match ever.....think about that one
Millennial spotted
Bret is a world champion, so his scores are definetley not infalted. If he didnt check those boxes so high he wouldnt be world champ, although you can argue about the numbers hes really spot on where is biggest strength was, his "worst" category being the promos is also a pretty spot on reflection.
Bret and Ric's ongoing feud is interesting to me because they really were quite different as wrestlers, as in the product they put out.
Bret was a brilliant technician and athlete. His wrestling movies were miles above Flair on his best day, and he had good variety in his matches, whereas Flair really did do the same match most nights.
However, Flair had such a good gimmick and personality, especially when working as a heel. Flair's imminent beating was engineered to please the crowd, and Naitch knew how to time it to perfection. Bret on the other hand had the personality of a piece of toast. No mic skills, no interesting angles: whether he won or lost didn't really matter to most fans.
It's very hard to articulate, but some wrestlers like Hogan, Flair and The Rock just bring an electricity that really connects with people. Bret didn't have that, as magnificent an athlete as he was.
A bit harsh on Bret. His dry personality hurt his drawing power no doubt. But I would argue he was one of the best at getting the crowd to invest in the psychology of the match. Perhaps almost too creative (same could be said for Shawn Michaels as well) to be a top guy in the vein of a Flair, Hogan, Austin or Rock. Part of the mass appeal of those guys was that they had a well reheated routine incorporated into their acts that fans would pay to see.
Has some good points. But give Bret a storyline or feud and he definitely give his best, though not as animated and crowd drawing as Hulk, Warrior or The Rock.
Lol mentioning flair in there with hogan and rock. 2 are legit megastars and the other is flair.
it's called charisma, that's what Hogan, Flair, and Rock had that Bret Hart didn't. You can't teach it or learn it.
Prime Flair could out wrestle Bret anytime or anyday while having 10 times the charisma and personality. Flair wrestled multiple 45min to 1 hour matches and made guys such as Sting and Luger into legends. Bret had no charisma and was one of the lowest drawing champions ever. No one cared about Bret which is why Vinve kicked his butt to the side.
One thing about Bret is that he cant stop taking shots at Hulk Hogan. Bret let it the hell go because the schtick on hating Hulk is getting old. You dont like him fine, you "think" he screwed you fine. But do we have to hear it in EVERY SINGLE INTERVIEW??? I do agree with Bret about Flair being called the Greatest Wrester Ever. I will agree with him that Flair wasnt, not even close. But the Hogan hate thing he needs to bury it and let it go.
He's always whining...and he's boring asf. And he has an over inflated opinion of himself. I could go on...
If not for Hogan nobody outside of Calgary would know or care who his non drawing ass is.
Oh come on...Bret can go waaay longer than 11 mins on why he hates everyone
Love Ric Flair he's my all time favorite, it was just something that didn't fit in the WWE no matter what they tried he just didn't belong in the WWE, maybe it was because he was stuck in the 70s and was used to do things a certain way....I think Bret was also used to during things a certain way during his era and when you put those two different philosophies you get what you get
Yea. JCP/WCW was more focused on athletic in ring coompetition while WWE was cartonish and childish.
@@hitek9too255 You hit it right on the nose
LMFAO. He's ruining the matches on purpose 😅. He is always complaining
Anyways the same thing. Just have a REAL fight and stop these interview bashing ,, Jesus Christ
Flair has bones of steel. I dont know how he withstood such punishment to his back, to his hip, to his arms. I have seen wrestlers out because of injuries. When he was younger listening to him was incredible. So for resilience he is the best. For show Goldberg drove fans crazy, more than the ultimate warrior. Overall Hulk Hugan was a very fine wrestler. Good body like Lesnar but Lesnar lack Charisma of Warrior and Goldberg. His talking is just inferior. Undertaker was an impresive wrestler with that dark character. All them worked very hard in the gym.
Its the big question, when it comes to the "best technical wrestler" in American pro wrestling, it would either be Brett Hart or Ric Flair... if they both didnt shoot on each other so much, so therefore Mark "Rollerball" Rocco is the greatest "technical wrestler" because nobody ever heard him ever shoot shit on his colleagues
Ric Flair, Bret Hart and The Undertaker are for me the best wrestlers of all time. Mr. Perfect deserves a honorable mention here, he was amazing.
Too bad Sgawn Michaels was such a maggot backstabber, he had the skill, but not the integrity to be included in that strict list of the very greats.
Very unpopular opinion I'm assuming. However, if people will sit back for a second and think about it - maybe you will agree (if youre my age or younger). I'm 33... my entire time of watching wrestling, which started around 5 years old. Flair was never over, like the "memories" other wrestlers and fans portray him to have been, while I was watching. It was ALL before my time. Sure he got a pop in WWE as the old man, but as a legend, not because he was some great active wrestler. The entire time I watched him in WCW he was a complete dud. He didnt sell tickets, he didnt put people in the seats. The whole show, the crowd, everything was all about NWO, DDP, Goldberg, and Sting. The WCW did nothing at all for Flair nor Piper during that era (the era I grew up on). So, going off of just what I witnessed Live and at that time, I would say Flair is tremendously overrated.
that holds true
Hes not over rated, he was just way past his prime. When he was great and everyone was talking about him, there was a time when he was a heal and he had a crew like the NWO. The four horsemen, they tried to do it again in WCW. It worked but just not like before. In his prime people LOVED it, because they understood him. By the time he tried 4 horseman again WCW, it was wrestlers that respected him. So thats it, he just held weight because of his legendary stories in the cities and countries hes toured. But theres not too many wrestlers at 60 on HD TV wrestling on the biggest wrestling show of the yr, come on.... Ric is the last of a DEAD breed. Its hard to compare him to anyone.
The return of the 4 horsemen around 97 or 98 was over big time and had a lot of potential but wcw killed that off quick.
@@rliptak2 they only had 2 guys who could promo in flair and arn. Benoit and Makenzie not so much
He was never a focal point during your era, he was a bit comedy & mostly on the losing end during the Nitro era. You can't eval his career unless you watch his matches in the 70's & 80's. He drew plenty of crowds during that time, he traveled the world as the NWA champ.
There was a reason he ws getting paid a million per year during his prime. He's not overrated when you eval the entire body of work.
neither one is Curt Henning sooooooo
There is no wrestler called Curt Henning, but I do know Curt Hennig!!! Jesus! when will people learn Curt’s last name properly.
@@Makainternational don't get your tights in a twist bub...it's a typo...on youtube..not a thesis paper- y'all know exactly who I meant
From what I have seen on YT Flair said that towards the end of his WWF tenure he had an inner ear issue with balance and thus could hardly do anything properly in the ring and was very slow. I am surprised neither Vince nor Bret knew this.
Bret seems to always have wanted things to go his way but if we're honest he never earned that level of starpower to demand it. Hearing him talk in this clips, it's not hard to see how Montreal ended up happening to him. Bret's perception of himself never aligned with how the promoters saw him. I think Bret wanted Hogan treatment
Sorry Brett. But you are not original. You stole stings whole act and look minus the facepaint. The sharpshooter is without a doubt the scorpion death lock.We are not that stupid dude.
Brets problem is he is a wrestling God trying to get a match out of arguable a man who was the first sports entertainer but never am actual wrestler.
And yet on broken skull sessions , in all episodes they speak of Flair as being the GOAT. Hell no.
Rick and hulk are the worst people to ever participate in the wrestling business.
Wrestling standpoint, not many are on Bret’s level.
The greatest wrestler of all time? Pinky Larson! Who remembers him.
Btw that last part Scott Hall also talked about that situation in an interview
bret hart was ovverrated, ric flair also overrated, both bitter and hang on too long
Well...
The thing with Ric's "same old match" is that you can easily remember most of his best.
Flair/Steamboat
Flair/Sting
Flair/Hogan
Flair/Perfect
Flair/Foley
Flair/Michaels
Etc etc etc.
Bret? As good he was, the only matches I can clearly remember of his were the ones with Austin, and that was more about Austin than Bret.
That's not a ding on Bret, he WAS good, simply saying that there's something to be said about consistency, too.
👍
Flair/Funk and Flair/Luger. Made Luger a Star
The Sharp shooter is a straight shooter. Cuts through all the crap.
Bret ain't lying about the odd finishes with Flair after he got the strap. I know Flair missed some time due to an injury so Bret was wrestling Nailz, Papa shango and the mountie for like a month, then Flair wrestled Bret until he was let go. Those matches with Nailz must have been some barn-burners
Didn’t Bret save Vince From nailz?
@@Yahweh-dn9cv i forget that story, but i thought bret said he only heard Nailz attacking vince from down the hall or from another room
@@bigbrytunney8753 I think that was it
Bret Hart's a great wrestler and a great role model
the look was a 10. Don't sell yourself short hitman ;)
I find bret shitting on ric highly entertaining
Sad situation Flair will step into the ring at 80yo
I agree with Bret i never understand that Ric Flair gets all this praise..i like a few things he did in the ring but i think his character took him farther than his in ring work
You're probably a millennial so it's understandable. If I was your age I'd be saying shit like this too
Ric Flair during his career never had problems putting others over. Take a look at his career and see how many wrestlers he put over for greatness.
Yea Ric Flair put guys that didn't even deserve it
Yeah and has also been called out numerous times on being a racist lech as well.
@@errdaykam4662 All people look at races. Ric was the Larry Bird of his sport.
He put bret over clean as well, thats not what bret is saying
Bret Hart was going to get over regardless man. He was a damn good wrestler. Executed nice moves. Wrestled nicely.
Rates Dynamite a 17 and himself a 27 😂
He didn't want to be there he went home
I read about Bret's problem with Ric in the ring, it's in his book.
How was it?
Bret Hart:
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AVERAGE RATING: 2.63 HIGHEST RATED MATCH: 5.00 LOWEST RATED MATCH: -4.00
TOTAL PPV DRAW: 1,530,865
AVG. PPV DRAW: 16,823
TOTAL PPV BUYS: 22,576,000
AVG. PPV BUYS: 322,514
Ric Flair:
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AVERAGE RATING: 2.54 HIGHEST RATED MATCH: 5.00 LOWEST RATED MATCH: -3.00
TOTAL PPV DRAW: 2,114,429
AVG. PPV DRAW: 12,972
TOTAL PPV BUYS: 39,555,000
AVG. PPV BUYS: 255,194
The book is excellently executed.
He lost respect from me. He talks about Flair having the same matches, ie, repeat moves in all his matches, but he fails to mention that his move set was the same as well. He used all his moves in every match as well. He's bitter from his career ending on the terms it was under. I don't recall hart carrying a match for an hour or more, keeping the audience attracted to what's going on as Flair did. Flair had numerous matches that went thirty minutes plus.
Wrestlemania 12?
@@daviduribe6534 I think 🤔 the key 🔑 word is Numerous.... Ric Flair would sometimes do 30-60 minute matches on a regular basis in the 80's outdoors during the Great American Bash Tour.... as I recall reading 📚 the nights were often brutally hot and humid....
It’s always negative with Hart.
Truth hurts
always always always. cry baby Bret cryin again. everyone else sucked so much, and my matches are so great and stand the test of time, blah blah, annoying and a total whiney old grouch
To his credit, he does give the nature boy his props. They just didnt mesh well due to their different styles of work. He's buried people far deeper than this (HHH, Ultimate warrior). Flair was far less even keeled about his assessment of Bret Hart.
Nick Bockwinkle > Bret Hart
Flair was great to work with most guys, he'd make an awefully green wrestler look great but with a next level guy like Bret Hart, who might literally be the best of the next generation, it's hard to do the fancy shit he could bring. Being the younger great wrestler Bret was super conscious of what made him next level. Bret pushed himself to be the greatest and he can't help but see few other people could do what he did. Sometimes he comes of as a bit of a douche for speaking on it but you know... the greats can act like this sometimes. Flair did too, he talked a lot of shit. When you're great, you realize the difference between you and others... if you didn't think like that you probably wouldn't be that great. This being the case, I rather Bret and others be honest with their thoughts than just being nice. Everybody can be nice, a great criticizing an other, that's interesting.
Macho man would be close to a 30, nearly a 10 in each of those categories easy
He's probably the most complete wrestler
Hart:
Wrestling: 10
Look: 5
Promos: 5
Flair:
Wrestling: 8
Look:10
Promos:10
Flair’s wrestling is nowhere near an 8 lol. Same cheesy shit every match. Chops, flops, eye pokes, low blows, figure four leg lock. Bret could wrestle so many different types of matches! No two Bret matches look exactly alike. Almost every Flair match is exactly the same!
@@blaketindle4703 Bret is overrated
Totally agree,Bret explains it all well!He doesn't up himself either compared to the some ego wrestlersl🤔But yeah Rick had the glitter ect but he in my opinion looked a bit slow and the same routine nothing really e xcited me to watchIng the match. He did do comical moves such made me laugh though!
Brett always tells the truth no bull crap just the truth
I go for Bret Look: 8, Promo: 5, Work: 10 and for Flair Look: 7, Promo: 10, Work: 8
Similar, I'd just add a 6 for promo for Bret, and I'd take 1 or 2 point away from Flair's look. The suits and gators were cold af, but after that he had an old looking body throughout his whole career.
This dude salty as hell
Ric is pissed because bret took his finisher and made it better
Love bret hart interviews. He is brutally honest. his opinion on Rick Flair is spot on too, flair was always overrated and i never understood what the big deal was about him.
Bullshit
@@joetamburello6292 if you're a flair fan i get it, but i couldn't sit through a flair match.
@@Ims51 good for you
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