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Heel goed gedaan. Ik probeerde uit te leggen aan mijn jongens ex-Yu problematiek ervan. Blijkbaar je video’s kunnen of zullen helpen erbij. Ik zou je vriendelijk vragen alleen om bij juiste uitspraak van letters en worden meer aandacht te brengen. Bjv. Majevica is just majevica. Or “handzar/handžar)”-not hanchar. Shortly, jump on any serbo-croatian-bosnian,ex-YU person for proper pronounce. 😊 U have it where u work,I’m certain. This summer we (age:11&13)have visited Jasenovac and they were shocked by what was happened there. I see,u have covered that issue to. I shall send them links. In my time,this was a must. But at school we have not learned of handzar nothing into deep. Raar, begonnen met Nederlands,geëindigd met Engels. 😆 Will je koffie,kom naar Zeeland. Groetjes.
Great video! Finally, a true historian from the West who will look at the past of the Balkan conflicts objectively and in depth. I would add that the cause of the conflict in Bosnia is identity assimilation during the Ottoman occupation and Austro-Hungarian annexation.
...yes the Ottomans truly screwed their Moslem brothers outside the borders of Turkey..treated them as slaves and interiors and destroyed what independent cultures there were in what call today the Middle East...
i remember over a decade ago i was debating a tyt fan on the topic of muslims in the waffen SS where he believes that it was made up propaganda while i provided sources of their existence, sadly he was too brainwashed and threw out whatever sources i provided as "right wing propaganda", sadly this was the time when such topics like this were not discussed widely and mainly scoffed at because the topic was not Stalingrad or D-Day.
This video provides an incredibly detailed and eye-opening look into the dark history of the Bosnian SS Handschar Division. The thorough research and presentation of facts shed light on the division’s formation, its brutal actions during World War II, and the impact it had on the region and its people. The use of historical footage, personal testimonies, and expert commentary really brought the story to life and emphasized the terror and devastation caused by this division. I appreciate how the video doesn't shy away from the complexities of the division’s origins, including the political and social factors that led to its creation. It’s a stark reminder of how ideology and manipulation can lead to horrific consequences. Overall, this video is a must-watch for anyone interested in WWII history, particularly the lesser-known chapters of the war in the Balkans. Kudos to the creators for producing such an informative and respectful exploration of a painful yet important part of history.
Problematika i jest zasto je osnovana Hanzar divizija,koji su to razlozi nastanka te divizije.Istotiska Činjenica je da je osnovana iz nužde od lokalne muslimanske milicije koja se nije mogla nositi s zločinima cetnika i partizana u istočnoj Bosni nad neduznim civilima muslimanima. Ako se malo vratimo kroz istoriju progona muslimana iz Srbije Beogradskog pašaluka i Uzica 99% muslimanskog grada a koji su naselili istočnu Bosnu nad kojim se vrsi klanje i ubijanje drugi genocid u istom stoljeću.Osnivanje Handzar divizija je nužna potreba.Nijemci su naoruzali lokalnu miliciju koja je s vremenom prerasla u ozbiljnu vojnu jedinicu.Koju su Nijemci poslije iskoristili u druge svrhe. Dobar dio ove jedinice je završio u Palestini koji su ratovali protiv Britanaca i zidova.
Titovo komunisti su još tokom regrutacije Bosanskih muslimana u 13 Hanđar Diviziju ubacivati i svoje ljude (muslimane koji su podržavali Tipvu komunističku partiju). Oni su bilo nukleus razdora u 13 Diviziji, pobunu su digli oni a poslije gušenja pobune u Francuskoj vrijedno su radili na tome da se ljudstvo te Divizije po povratku u Bosnu počne baviti dezerterstvom i bijegom sa kompletnim naoružanjem u Partizanski Titovu vojsku. Pola te 13 Hanđar Divizija eje tako i postupilo jer su se po povratku u Bosnu sa obuka u Francuskoj i Njemačkoj lično uvjerili da Wermaht tijesno surađuje sa Srpskom formacijom zvanom Četnici Draže Mihajlovića. A Četnici Draže Mihajlovića su u periodu 1941, 1942 i 1943 g izvršili masovne pokolje nad Muslimanskim civilima što je i dovelo do toga da mnogi Bosanski Muslimani svoj spas potraže pod okriljem Nijemaca odnosno Wermahta.Treba reći još i ovo-99 % Bosanskih Muslimana nikada u svom životu nije ni srela Jevreje jer su Jevreji mahom živjeli u gradovima a pripadnici Hanđar Divizije su većinom bili ljudi sa Bosanskih sela i planina. Njima nije bila svojstvena mržnja prema Judajizmu. Mržnju su im usađivali Nijemci rokom obuka u Francuskoj i Njemačkoj. Kod mnogih bezuspješno jer se polovina ljudstva Divizije po dolasku u Bosnu našla u Partizanima okrenuvši leđa Nijemcima. Četnici Draže Mihajlovića i Nijemci su mrđusobno surađivali do posljednjeg dana 2 Svjetskog Rata u borbi protiv Titovih Partizana .
@@AkakaDomenjer Gledaj film noz I prihvati da ti je deda ratovao protiv svojih sa tudjinskim oruzijem. Bosanci znaju za sramotu u odnosu na hrvate besramnike
@@HistoryHustle yes sure…they were basically teenagers when they joined and probably because others told them that they should go and defend their homeland…both were injured by bullets and one of them saved his friend his life and carried him for kilometers on his shoulders to bring him to hospital…i guess both had kind of trauma from the war but the never talked really about that with us grandkids and unfortunately both died in their seventies and i couldn’t talk about all their experiences to us as we were adults
Muslims didnt enter partisans until the end of 1943. Before that they were in SS and Ustashe - helping industrial scale extermination of Serbs, Jews and Roma.
Oh which countries? In western countries crossing street on red light to stop some german vehicle to pass immediatelly was praised as ultimate sign of resistance...
Simple poor people are easy to manipulate into hate and fear. And this is what USA and "allies" did ever since ww2 ended, Ukraine is prime example. But its the case literally all around the world every single country has its USA backed party that came to power one way or another or is sanctioned to this day.
I researched this a while ago and was doing a school project about it this week and I was looking for your video and this was posted only two weeks ago, what amazing luck
24:37 this is what can be corroborated by what famous writer and partisan at the time Mesa Selimovic wrote in his book Memories or Sjecanja. I will paraphrase him, he stated that arrival of Handschar division to perform anti-partisan operations meant for partisans that they will have a lack of sleep for weeks, because the division units would keep pursuing partisans for a few weeks and partisans had to keep maneuvering to evade fights with them just so they would return back to their starting position once the division members ended operation, that division was a nuisance but it could not turn the tides of war in Yugoslav theater against partisans, it was introduced too late in the war to matter.
Today, the 13th SS division mostly serves as a propaganda tool directed against Bosniaks: they are portrayed as Nazi collaborators, criminals.." Such and similar nonsense can be found on a large number of Serbian (Chetnik) sites, 757 of them according to a Google search. Today, every year for the past 6 decades, the French town of Villefrance-de-Rouergue has a commemoration of these Bosniak-Croat soldiers on September 17 REVOLT OF THE HANDZAR DIVISION IN VILLEFRANCE-DE-ROUERGUE
I remember my grandma telling us how her uncles got killed by the Handschar Division in Bosnia. She was a kid and she heard her uncles’ screams after they got taken away. Later on they found their mutilated bodies.
Excellent documentary that sheds light on a little known area of WWII in the Balkans. With respect to the coup against the Pact with Hitler, that was orchestrated, with full British support, by Serbian staff officers in 1941. That slap in the face to Hitler, launched him into a rage against Yugoslavia and the Serbs. Churchill praised the coup leaders saying "Yugoslavia has found its soul..." but it was really the Serbs who were anti-German. The rest of the ethnic groups like Croats, Albanians and Bosnians, enthusiastically embraced the Nazis cause.
@@tzoa4443yep now there’s Nazis in Kursk again, Swedes in Poltava again and the French are again in Odessa while the EU and NATO pressure Hungary and Serbia to bend to their will
Lots of Balkan tribalism here. It's always "the other side" that are the bad guys in the Balkans, and "our side" either never commits crimes or is somehow "justified" by other side's crimes and/or whacky mythology. Sad I read it so much.
@@HistoryHustle Could you be a little less snobbish and not pretend the same bloody thing is not happening in the West, even worse? *Sigh* ... Western tribalism... See? Snobbish
Nicely done Stefan! Do you know, whether there are accounts of Handschar SS or Cama SS units direct involvement in crimes against humanity, genocide etc. like it was the case with Skanderbeg SS and Prinz Eugen SS?
Did you know that Kama means special curved knife? Croatian Ustasha invented it to quickly cut throats during executions, instead of using normal knife to see saw cutting throats. They had competitions in concentration camps who can execute more people (mainly captured Serbian civilians in Jasenovac) using Kama knife. Record was more then 1000 people by one Ustasha doing is non stop. Countless Serbs were murdered in bestial fashion like this, including children. Communists tried to hide just how brutal execution methods were used (like wood cutting saws to cut people heads). Hundreds of thousands of Serbians were executed like this. This kind of trauma stayed in Serbian nation for a long time, even though communists tried all they could to hide what was really going on in these camps. Once you understand just how horrific murders were, it was truly hell on earth. So there you go. That's what Kama stands for - to instill fear in Serbian population as they know what Kama is. Executions by Ustasha were arguably the most gruesome in modern recorded history, but not much is reported about it.
Please can you make a video about bulgarians in SS ? Edit : the information for that isn't that much, but i think it will be interesting idea for a video.
@@cezar3977Wikipedia has a short article on Bulgarian volunteers in the Waffen-SS. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen_Grenadier_Regiment_of_the_SS_(1st_Bulgarian)
@@HistoryHustleLong story short, the newest starting point is the League of Prizren. England's interest in bringing Muslims to the territory of the Slavs and Orthodox and through them keeping the whole region unstable due to Russian influence. It is interesting to note that the puppet states during Hitler's time were the first to enter the EU from these areas, as well as that they received support from the West, Bosnian Muslims, as well as Siptars from Kosovo who were also on Hitler's side.
Handžar divizija brutaly killed my fathers whole village in ww2, more precisely, everything that moved, women, children, domestic animals, about 360 people ...
a fantastic video and a few really good historical facts about the Bosnian Handschar SS. Unfortunately, I'm missing three very important facts. 1. The fact that the Croatian Ustasa carried out several murders of the Serbian population and deliberately wore the Bosnian headgear (fez) in order to pin the murders on the Handschar so that the conflict between Bosniaks and Serbs would grow. - 2. The Bosnians increasingly realized that they were being exploited and deceived by Nazi Germany for their own purposes, contrary to the agreement. In addition, they understood what happened to the Jews after the deportation. Above all, the realization of what happened to Roma and Jews led to many defecting to the partisans and not the Allied landing in Normandy. That was just a coincidence. - 3. Unfortunately, in France (Villefranche-de-Rouergue) a memorial stone was erroneously erected with the words "in memory of the brave Croats" or something like that, although during the uprising there were less than 5% Croatian people in this unit. Today many Croatian hobby historians claim that there were 1/4 Croatian soldiers in the Handschar, which is absolute nonsense! Just because a Bosnian came from a Croatian part of the NDH did not immediately make him a Croat. The same applies if the surname was not 100% Muslim, that does not mean that this person had to be a Croat. That could have perhaps been mentioned here. - Perhaps this historical error, which the Croats welcome, will be corrected at some point and written "in memory of the brave Bosnians" or something like that.
My grandpa was 2 months in harsh partisan prison after surrendering to Allies in Austria. Allies sent prisoners to Partisans. After prison, he went home and served Yugoslav people's army, right after the war few months later on... Good video, i reccomend everyone to read a book by a french historian Xavier Bougarel, Handschar division.
@@HistoryHustleTito adopted many Ustasa and Muslim SS war criminal into his army. Serbs Partisans ( 93% of Partisans) who were not komunist were killed, imprisoned and opressed after the war by ex Austrohungarian officer Tito.
@@tamjansan1154 Većina ustaša,muslimana rvatskog cvjeća je presvučena u partizane krajem 1943 i početkom 1944.godine...Tako je Tito dobio direktive da mora da se to sprovede...Svi koji su do proleća 1944 se priključili partizanima su BUKVALNO IZBEGLI ODGOVORNOST ZA STOTINE HILJADA LJUDI KOJE SU UBILI KAO NACISTIČKI SARADNICI...Najveći neprijatelj Srba i Srbije je TIto kojeg su tu postavili Čerčil i Staljin....Zato su se posle i dogodile 1990-te godine kada su bukvalno oni koji su bili nacistički saradnici PONOVO SU POIKRENULI TALAS ZLOČINA I RATOVA....Za sve je kriv Tito...TREBALO JE KAZNITI I MUSLIMANE I HRVATE I TO ONAKO KAKO SU I ZASLUŽILI...
Excellent history lesson thanks. I served with the UN in Bosnia in 94/95. As a keen historian I often broached the subject of WWII with locals. The muslims often simply referred to Croatians as ‘Ustasha’ - they had long memories - however most of the locals (Muslims and Croatians) tended to avoid the subject. Some told me ‘Germans in the towns and partisans in the hills’. Shame the country has been plagued by wars
History is full of manipulations on the territory of the former Yugoslavia. The truth is a little different. It is a fact that the grandfathers of Muslims from Bosnia and Herzegovina participated in large numbers in the military units of the NDH. They were in Ustasha military units (volunteers) and in regular military units (home guards). Bosniaks were internationally recognized under that name (Bosniaks) in 1993. They were recognized as a separate nation in 1972 under the name Muslims. At the time of the Second World War, that nation was officially considered Croats. Please note that the official name of the Handžar SS unit was "13th Waffen Mountain Division SS Handschar (1. Croatia)". They had the Croatian coat of arms on their uniforms. So, the "Ustaše" were the grandfathers of the Bosniaks, and today they tell the Croats that only they were the Ustaše...
@@IvanBonic Bosniaks were banned from having their nationality after the serbian king was given Bosnia in 1918 by the British. This oppression lated until our independence.
@@IvanBonic I'm curious if in former yugoslavia you learn about the history before? Yugoslav accession to the Tripartite Pact on 25 March 1941. Yugoslavia actually became an ally of the axis, after that the Yugoslav coup d'état happened, and this coup d'état was a british operation. Essentially the legitimate government of Yugoslavia was couped involving british operators, and AFTER that happened Germany invaded Yugoslavia. I feel like this is something they omitted in cold war yugoslav education for... reasons..
@@HistoryHustle Today, the 13th SS division mostly serves as a propaganda tool directed against Bosniaks: they are portrayed as Nazi collaborators, criminals.." Such and similar nonsense can be found on a large number of Serbian (Chetnik) sites, 757 of them according to a Google search. Today, every year for the past 6 decades, the French town of Villefrance-de-Rouergue has a commemoration of these Bosniak-Croat soldiers on September 17 REVOLT OF THE HANDZAR DIVISION IN VILLEFRANCE-DE-ROUERGUE
Niet ingewikkeld rood, wit, blauw, alleen Serviërs hebben de nazis gevochten in formalige Yugoslavie, stank voor dank van de westerse wereld. Tijdens de oorlog in 1991-95 ze hebben die andere kant gekozen. Het is duidelijk vandaag dat west altijd had simpaty for de verkeerde ideologie.
Excellent video Stefan, I have just watched it again. This is the most captivating story of all the foreign Waffen SS units. The story had so much great detail. I can only roll my eyes at Himmler finding some obscure text to justify Bosnians as being of Aryan descent, their delusions really knew no boundaries. It also just goes to show how people ended up joining the Axis with the only goal being to protect their family and community
What I like about this division is that they joined to stop the chetniks/communists from killing their people and not because of racism or hate. Of course there is always others that did join for something else.
@@visnjalivancic3953 Actually the Serbian Chetniks had a financial deal with the Germans- they got paid for every Jew they found and handed over. They hunted them as keenly as the Ustache. The Bosnians were stuck in the middle -many joined the partisans- but their main persecutor -the ones that massacred entire villages-were Serbian Chetniks. That is on historical record. But still -the Serb portrays himself as the eternal victim. Shame on you.
Formation of the 16th Muslim Strike Brigade In the Orthodox village of Bukvik near Brčko, on September 21, 1943, the 16th Muslim Assault Brigade was formed by order of the headquarters of the First Bosnian Corps. April 5 and 6, 1945, when Sarajevo was liberated, was written in golden letters in the annals of the brigade. Fighters of the 16th Muslim Strike Brigade were the first to enter liberated Sarajevo and hung the partisan flag on the Town Hall. A member of the 16th Muslim Strike Brigade was Sheriff Buljubasic, who after his release was a respected diplomat. Buljubasic married Sadeta Pozderac with whom he had two children - Sena and Sead. Sherif and Sadeta are the grandparents of the former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Serbia, Vuk Jeremic, later the Chairman of the United Nations General Assembly. Vuk Jeremić's ancestors are also Murat-aga Pozderac, and he is also the great-grandson of Nuria Pozderac, who was the vice-president at the first session of AVNOJ. Nurija Pozderac died in the battle on Sutjeska. A total of 3,382 fighters fought From the formation of the 16th Muslim Strike Brigade to the end of the war, 3,382 fighters passed through the brigade. The composition of the brigade comes from 175 municipalities of Tito's Yugoslavia, and most fighters were born in Tuzla Municipality - 344, then Modriča 219, Bijeljina 194, Gradačac 190, Brčko 158... As many as 77.6 percent of the brigade members were under the age of 25, and only 3.7 percent were older than 35. The youngest fighter was 4, and the oldest 61 years old. The brigade included members of 12 nationalities: 1962 Muslims, 1084 Serbs, 168 Albanians... 912 fighters gave their lives for freedom
Well then who massacred Bosnian Serbs villages around Sarajevo from 1941 to the end of WW2 also through all BiH ,only in town of Doboj,over 3000 Serbs was sent to Jasenovac by Handžar Division/Handžar Divizija,both of my grandfathers were murdered only because they were Orthodox Serbs by the same Handžar Division
@@goranrajak7534 Theirs is all propaganda. If you want to know history read history books not somebody's propaganda. They are all coming out in the open since the unification of Germany. There was never denazification in former Yugoslavia.
My late grandpa was partisan in Bosnia from 1943, he told me that there wasn't any quarter given to those SS units. Some of them taking off uniforms during liberation, but they all got bullet in the head. His commander lost his family members by ustashas, so they didn't have a chance to capture muslims and croats alive.
He joined partisans at the age of 16, in 1943. born and raised in Jagodina, central Serbia. He moved to Bosnia, since the partisan headquarters were there. He said SS wafen were relentless soldiers, they never surrendered, nor were taken prisoners. He was in a recon unit, that eventually first entered Jasenovac and witnessed horrors seen there. He and his units ended the war in Graz, Austria. Never said a word about Bleiburg. I could check his memoirs to see which unit he was in.
REVOLT OF THE HANDZAR DIVISION IN VILLEFRANCE-DE-ROUERGUE Today, every year for the past 6 decades, the French town of Villefrance-de-Rouergue has a commemoration of these Bosniak-Croat soldiers on September 17 In 1943, on the night of September 16-17, 1943, an open rebellion against the Germans took place in this battalion. The first in occupied Europe. The 13th SS Mountain Division was established on the initiative of Bosnian Muslim champions, who in their "Memorandum" of November 1942 complained about the Chetnik massacres against Muslims. The ringleaders of the rebellion were: Ferid Dzanic, Eduard Milutinovic, Nikola Vukelic, Luftija Dizdarevic and Bozo Jelenek. They had some contacts with the French resistance leaders, but all this is still insufficient, unprepared. Who knows what made them make this desperate move - at the moment when all the great powers of Europe succumbed to the German invader. At a time when Bosnia needed them more than ever, to return to her. And to her people. The causes of the rebellion have not yet been definitively clarified, but the anti-fascist mood of the leaders, Dzanic, Milutinovic and Vukelic, certainly contributed to their decision. It seems that they were deceived by one of the members of the French Resistance.
if we were educated about that, instead of pushing crimes of the past under carpet in order to keep brotherhood and unity, maybe 90s would turn out differently.
@@julius43461 As i just read it, in Botswana, 80% of people are Tswana ethnicity. Not a good comparison. Additionally we already tried suppressing local identities during Kingdom of Yugoslavia, and promotion of universal Yugoslav identity, language etc. It didn't went well to say the least.
@@ivancertic5197 Yes, but some would argue that people in the Balkans are also the same ethnicity, just different "tribes". In Botswana they had tribal issues like most of Africa despite being the same ethnicity, but their first president Seretse Khama handled that unscrupulously. From what I read, he took the power away from tribal elders and gave it to district councils. Seized their land, stripped them of right to collect taxes.
@@ivancertic5197 I think the big issue was also the language. You need to find a way to make people use the same language that is either neutral, or is forced on everyone else. English would be a good fit at the moment. Many people speak it already, it's international, meaning that it's not even a language of any specific country anymore(see BBC Pidgin lol)
Why was my comment deleted? "If theres mutiny ofc its us hard headed Yugoslavs." I myself am Yugoslav & anyone with the slightest experience with Yugoslavs [in Yugoslavia, or raised in Yugoslavia] knows how hard headed we are. Specialy someone like me that was raised German speaking & got a very good & high education as Software Developer outside Yugoslavia, therefore has the ability to compare. The Yugoslavian character is very unique. It had to be. My guess is the natural selection due to the territory. Its placed where essentially completly different worlds meet & was the crossroad Western & Central Europe, Eurasia, Africa & the Middle East. This led to only people with the hardest character & most talented warriors survived. Im pretty sure thats why we are so good at sports & rank high at many sports despite having a small population. The Dinaric Alps is also home to the tallest people. Study showed males age 17 at 186cm (6'1.1").
Thank you Stefan for this video, and for being objective. I know that I’m asking for a lot but it would be really appreciated if the video had a Bosnian subtitle so all Bosnians can understand.
@MontenegrinHighlander-c5e 👉 Dokaz Bosanske državnosti napisan na bosančici, staro bosansko pismo, 1189. 👉 Bosna kao nezavisna država postoji od 1180. Priznata od Ugarske, pa čak i Stefana Nemanje srpskog, i od papinih izaslanika u Rimu. 👉 Ime "Bošnjak" odnosno starinski "Dobri Bošnjani" postoji od 1166. 👉 Titula "Bosnanski Ban" postoji od 1154. 👉 I za kraj naš prvi bosnanski rječnik je napisan 1624, a tvoj srpski 1818. Kao što vidiš ovo nema nikakve veze sa turcima.
Rijecnik Bosanskiog jezika je stariji od srpskog jezika koji je vuk Karadžić vijesto preuzeo iz Bosanskog jezika. Tvrtko je Bosanski kralj mitomanija velikosrpske politike seze do Adama i eve kao srba
@@admirsalcin3562 Have you forgotten that they know each other, they just have to serve. Even their writers, such as Garasanin, are experts in this. He described what kind of intrigues they did in Bosnia to Serbianize the Vlachs, their doctrine is based on the fact that this is their hearth and to forget the Carpathians and also the indigenous inhabitants of Bosnia, the Illyrians...
Hello! Great video. My father's grandfather was captured by ustasha and along with many other local muslim people taken to Germany for work. He never came back, others that did came back told that he died of starvation somewhere in Germany. Ustasha were very bad to local people. Also my father's uncle served in some SS division, but I don't know which, they told that he fought on Kursk, and that there was some mutiny. He came to Zagreb alive, but very sick, after he was transported home he died 3 days later. He was 23 y old. That was very tough period of time.
This is truly the most thorough video that in a simple way explains every thing. Well done sir. It shows that the intetions of the Bosniaks were merely to defend their homeland from different military formations that pillaged it.
Thank you for another video about this great unit! Please, if you can, do one about the 17. SS-Panzergrenadier-Division "Götz von Berlichingen". They were an outstanding unit, composed of volksdeutsche from Romania, regular germans, french volunteers and even italians. A truly intriguing unit with a pretty good fighting record.
Muslims in Balkan after Ottoman's downfall experienced fall from grace.... They were the elite in the ottoman times, and then became second class citizens after Ottoman empire colapsed. They were struggling to make an identity and every attempt of them to make their own identity or some kind of sovereignity was brought down in blood. Balkan Christians, Serbs, Bulgarians, Croatians, Greeks... were done with islamic rule and superiority in the region. That is why Bosnian, Serbian and Albanian muslims were fragile ground, therefore easy for the Nazis to recruit to patrol the Balkans....
Yeah but,what Albanian muslims and other muslims do to the Serbs,Bulgarians and Hellenic people for 500 years...There is reason why Muslims here still love Turks and fish that Otoman empire is still here...
@@eazyemco Procitaj kakav netacan sadrzaj ovaj cetnik/ustasa postavlja, procitaj moju poruku jos jednom, i mucni malo glavom. Necu ti jos crtati! Cuj o cemu ja. Nije ni cudo da je BiH u ratu stradala ovoliko kad imamo mamlaze. Dobro smo i opstali!
very informative and well presented. I have long wondered about the complexities and interelationships of the axis troops in this regin, and you explained it clearly & succintly . Thanks
The SS Handschar did not even exist until 1943, so first read a bit to inform yourself and then ask a question. Not so different from the Chetniks and Ustasha, puppets who killed their own people.
I have noticed Balkan tribalism. With the typical "the other side" that are the bad guys in the Balkans, and "our side" either never commits crimes or is somehow "justified" by other side's crimes and/or whacky mythology. Sad I read it so much.
@@HistoryHustle I don't understand it, if you use logic you can clearly see that every armed force driven by nationalistic/ethnic ideas was prone to war crimes why would "your side" be the exception? Every SS unit including Handschar, the chetniks, the ustashe, even radical communist elements in the partisan movement-they all did ethnic cleansing and mass murder. We could go into debate on which one of those factions was the worst, but we should all accept the fact that none of those factions left ww2 without their genocidal mark on the map. Nothing to be proud of, nothing to glorify, and no war crime to justify another one. Thank you for keeping your videos objective.
You missed a key detail. That guy Al-Husseini who was rabidly against the Jews? That was Yasser Arafat's uncle. Not kidding. Explains a whole lot about the Arab-Israeli conflict today.
He didn't miss it, it's just not true. A basic Google search disproves what you say. He was for sure an Anti Zionist . But that is hardly the same as being against jews.
😂😂😂What a fallacy! So,we the Spaniards ought to be expelled from Spain because Franco was a Hitler's ally. And the Dutch people from Netherlands because Mussert was as well..And Jabotinsky, friend of Mussolini.
@@carlospargamendez4784 It's about how and why the animosity started. If you look at the earliest period of the Arab-Israeli conflict, it was the Arab side that wanted war. If the Arab leadership was literally infected with Nazi ideology (and it definitely was - look at Otto Skorzeny's history in Egypt after WW2 as just one example of thousands) it would explain a lot.
@@1jimmarch the joke is not amusing. The animosity started because UK gave a country to a colonialist group without the opinion of the population of that country. Nobody loves to be expelled from his country..The colonialist project had a fake slogan what was a political confession: a land WITHOUT PEOPLE for a people without land. A land without people? Sure? 🤔
It would be interesting if you covered the Nazi backed far right groups in Mexico during WW2 like the Revolutionary Mexicanist Action and the Nationalist Synarchist Union.
we Bosnians did it so we could defend ourselves from the Chetniks. That's why we rebelled against the SS because they wanted to send us to the eastern front. therefore, if you are talking about Bosniaks, first learn the history of WW2.
@@HistoryHustle But still he's right. Nobody is talking about the atrocities committed against bosnians and particulary against bosnian muslims leading up to wwii(just have a look at how the bosnians were treated after the fall of the ottomans). These bosnian ss formations was a way to protect its people and when they figuered out that they were being set up, sent to other fronts and not bosnia, they mutined!
@@voxpopuli209 Defending naz! collaborators in the 21st century is wild bro... The chetniks were bad, but they were never allowed to commit atrocities before the naz!s allowed them to during the occupation of Serbia. All Serbs Croats and Slovenes, regardless of faith, had very equal rights. Hell the Croats even had their own Banovina, but their greed has no end, what a materialistic people....
WOW! Ohne Fakten,sory. 1943.gab es kein Chetniks in Sarajewo z.B. überhaupt nicht. Aber gut.Alle sollten am 1945 zu Versönung kommen.Einde dicke Linie und weiter zusammen leben. Ich meine dass Bosnien heute ist ein Pulwerfas..Protektorat sowiso. Gesammt Bewölkerung kann nicht "atmen" von Westliche Vertretern . Dass alle drei Völker bißhen Vernuft haben,die sollten alle "nach Hause"schicken.Und nicht in gar keinen Fall ins NATO.
My great grandfather was a soldier for SS Handzar, after that he was Tito’s bodyguard and made it to ”Tito’s list”, which was 20-30 people that was exceptional communists. He had 18 children, 14 survived.
and yet Sarajevo still has strong jewish community. Sarajevo preserved Hagada. Sarajevo was liberated by 16th Muslim brigade. While Belgrade and Serbia were among first Judenfrei zones. Red Army had to liberate Belgrade.
It's no wonder that you got hold of that Ustasha Judenfrai propaganda, since the Ustasha and the Germans were the ones who cleansed Serbia of the Unfortunate Jews and at the same time killed a hundred Serbs for one German killed in battle and fifty for a wounded one.
Thak you yet again for another great video. I also appreciate your mention of the great error German forces made in fighting guerrillas (Partisans, in this case): this obsession with surrounding the enemy, which was inspired by the ancient Battle of Cannae). This obsession had dominated pre-1945 German military thinking.
Chetniks were not only Serb-oriented, they were 99% Sefbs, Serbian radicals. They hated muslims the same way they hated them in Srebrenica massacre in last war in Bosnia. This muslims and Croats in Bosnia asked for any help and joined ustasha or partisans. Because of this terror over muslims, they asked ustasha and Germans for protection against chetniks. They needed arms. So they joined SS. Their mutiny happened when they were told that they had to go in war out of Bosnia. They wanted to defend their relatives in Bosnia.
@@HistoryHustle in partizan maybe mate that was yugoslavian bolsevism, Tito disallowed every serb to have slava (serbian family holiday) cetniks are formed before ww1 to help in movin Turks away. So no one but serb or who feels serb was that. Try to find movie noz, some of the best explanation of bosniaks and how they become bosniaks and. That movie is must watch to try to get that thing 100% dank u wel 🫡
Hey you said you ducth right? Can i ask you..perhaps do you have a video about your own country history abour dutch east-indies or now Indonesian? I want to learn the dutch perspective of my country history that maybe... Maybe not told in my history class. Thank you😊 (Im sorry if my grammar bad, i hope you understand what i mean)
Before switching to the other video I have to express my gratitude for sharing this excellent information for the public. The research was totally UNBIASED and faithful to historical events that for some "unknown reasons" nobody like to openly address. Bosnian Muslims did also save many Jews, including one famous historical Torah and the history of their migration in the area.
@@zeljekojakic9360 Ne vjerujem da bi to neko negdje objavio kao neku vrstu dokumenta, ali mogu zamisliti da je to bilo planirano za nekad poslije. Vjerovatno postoje dopisi i sl.
it would be better for you to make a film about Serbian war crimes in Bosnia, ethnic cleansing, the killing of civilians, women and children by the Serbian army, about mass graves, about concentration camps that were opened by Serbs, about abused women that they imprisoned and did not release before In the 7th month of pregnancy, you will give birth to Serbs, the soldiers said
Ajde Balijo ne balavi . Hteli ste rat , počeli ste rat , tako da kmečanje i igranje na kartu žrtve slabo pomaže . Počnite rat ponovo (uljuljkani u samoobmanu kako ste ovaj put jači , spremniji i opremljeniji) pa tek onda ćete plakati .
And you didn't mention the phrase "Berlin pao, Odzak nije" ?!? Berlin felt, but Odzak didn't.. That means that days after the fall of Berlin, SS Handzar was still fighting in the city called Odzak in Bosina and Herzegovina..
Pronunciation nitpick: "Eugen" in "Prinz Eugen" is stressed on the last syllable, not on the first. "eu-GEN", not "EU-gen". Unfortunately, almost all youtube historians pronounce it wrong.
@@rubatsch1713 Have you ever heard the song "Prinz Eugen, der edle Ritter"? Imagine how weird it would sound if the name were stressed on the first syllable. But the pronunciation only applies to Eugene of Savoy. If it's any other Eugen, he's pronounced EU-gen, but the one from Savoy has always been eu-GEN. That was so back in his time, and it still is. And if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Eugene was not German or Austrian, but French and Italian. Both in French and Italian, the stress is on the second syllable. On top of that, the name itself is Greek (Ευγένιος, meaning "noble"), and in Greek, as is indicated by the acutus, the stress is also on the second syllable. In this 1938 video of the christening of the heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen, you can hear that Germans used to pronounce his name in the same way, too: th-cam.com/video/0_RpXGzEDLY/w-d-xo.html
I am from Bosnia. When it comes to history, Muslims and Croats are the ones who always welcomed invaders (Otomans, Austo-Hungarians, Axis...) and always after defeat they ask for forgiveness from Serbs and to co-live with them.
It is always good to emphasize that Croats were the majority in the anti-fascist partisan movement with numerous victims. The leader of the Anti-Fascists was Croat Josip Broz Tito. Not to glorify communism, communist crimes and Tito, but to oppose the Serbs and their allies who btw. own this channel who want to portray Croats as Nazi servants. While the Croats were part of the partisans, until 1944 the Serbs mostly fought for Nedić and for the Chetniks of Draža Mihailović in the service of the Nazis and Italian fascists. In 1944 they changed their uniforms.
And Serbs are too naive and always welcome them back- once Nato collapses, and it will at some point; I really hope the Serbs don't make the same mistake again.
My great grandfather died while he was trying to breach from Kerestinac Ustashe prison camp near Zagreb. And his daughter, my grandma, was just a young teenager when she was caught by Ustashe, while trying to smuggle message to partisans. She was taken to Sarajevo - Rajlovac Ustashe prison and was to be executed but on the day she was to die partisans liberated Sarajevo and she was saved. Most of Bosnia and Herzegovina was part od NDH during WWII supported by Nazi. Ante Pavelić, Ustashe leader was very fond of Bosnian Muslims and was proud of them as Ustashe and SS.
Don't mix nationality with religion. It was called : - 13. 'Handschar' (1st Croatian), - 23. 'Kama' (2nd Croatian). Handschar was formed from 40% of members of 'Crna Legija'. At that times Bosnian Muslims were aware of their Croatian blood, but Bosniaks belong to the Croatian tribe (Croats by the knee) as Evlija Celebi from the 16th century calls them, he lived at the Bosnian court for 30 years. Croatian = Nationality Bosniak = Regionality Slavonian = Regionality Hercegovinian = Regionality I hope you understand brother. Long live Bosnia&Croatia 🇭🇷⚜️
Quite a number of Bosniaks were in the 7th SS division "Prinz Eugen" before the formation of the 13th division. Thus, after the formation of the 13th Division, most of them asked to join the Handschar, which Himmler approved.
@historyhustle and also Bosniaks are not slavs, slav DNA is about 10-15%. 50-70% is the Illirian DNA and the rest is German and Celtic DNA. Most purest DNA in Europe is in Bosnia and a part of Dalmatia in Croatia. These research has done Igenea.
Much like the Finns, the expedient way for the Bosnian Muslims to defend their lands and people from those attacking them was to be armed, trained and supplied by the Germans.
No that analogy is not correct you can’t make that analogy, the Bosnian Muslims were not in any way threatened or persecuted by the Serbs until they started attacking Serbian villages and killing innocent Serbian civilians as they opportunistically became a proxy for the German Nazi occupation power and they also allied with the Croatian fascist Ustashas committing horrendous crimes against Serbs in Bosnia and Hercegovina, the attacks from Serb formations towards Bosnian Muslims was only reactive actions as revenge because of atrocities that the Bosnian Muslims committed before, these revenge attacks we’re mainly committed in rage eye for a eye and unfortunately Bosnian Muslim civilians were also not speared in these attacks, but they themselves provocad this with their actions if they hadn’t done what they did in the first place there wouldn’t have been any reason for rage against them and this kind of revenge reaction from the Serbs wouldn’t occur. There is a saying that describes this very well, you reap what you sow.
Handzar? Big shame of the people of the Muslim religion from the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Glory to the Muslims with a heroic heart who fought against the Nazis and collaborators like this division.
I do not think that it was a shame for the Muslims to have served in the SS in the same way that it was not a shame for Indians to have served in the SS and in the Japanese sponsored armies. These were people who were occupied and abused by those that they fought against and were justified to take whatever side was willing to support them. The most evil empire in history was the British Empire because no other empire controlled such a vast area and oppressed as may people and for such a long period, over 200 years. So yes the British were not better than the Nazis, and neither were the French, the Spanish, the Dutch and the Americans (complicit in the genocide of indigenous peoples). In British ruled India, in 1943, over six million Indians starved to death as a result of British government's actions. A number almost identical to the number of Jews that perished in the Holocaust.
Thanks. I made such videos: Slovenia in WW2: th-cam.com/video/75B7fO0jSrc/w-d-xo.html Serbian Collaboration in WW2: th-cam.com/video/utoEQ2NqI_s/w-d-xo.html
The Battle of Odžak (Bosnia) was the last battle of World War II in Europe. Refused to surrender to partisans, you knew they were brutal. Wars in the Balkans were all brutal killers
Das pasierte,sehr wichtig in Jahr 1946.In selben Jahr haben Brieten manche Stellungen in Serbien bombardiert um zu Chetniks zu bekömfen.Tito hat dies genähmigt.
One member of partizan units born in Lika said that they didn't knew exectly who they were fighting against till 1943. Everyone fought everyone and even killed their own. Killings were on all sides. We should stay aside as much as possible if somewar in Europe start again. That applies to Ukraine as well
Knowing the disaster of Muslim lands divided, Al Husseini was the only Arab leader and scholar at that time to call muslims to reunite under one Flag since we still pay the taxes of the fallen ottoman empire. May Allah have mercy on his soul
2 things to understand: he was a real hero in the Middle East and the French and British were in rivalry for control of the region. The French "arrested" him and then gave him a false passport in May 1946 so that he could travel to Cairo.
Interesting thema. My father's uncle, Halim Malkoč SS Obersturmführer was an imam in the Handžar division and he is the only Bosnian Muslim who received the Iron Cross mostly for suppressing the uprising in Vilfranš. He was FC hanged by the new communist government at the age of 30, 2 February when he returned to his native Bihać in western Bosnia on the border with Croatia. You will find information on the Internet if you type his name, there are also photos.
It was an informative Waffen SS division as Bosnian collaborative to Nazism invaders of Yugoslavia... during WW2. This magnificent work was shared by an amazing ( history Hustle) channel....introduced by Sir Stefan 🙏....thanks for sharing 👍🏻
After all those losses of German Aryan soldiers and Western European people, Himmler had drastically modified his hiring criteria! According to Himmler and Adolf Hitler, Muslims were the most loyal Nazis. That was because they despise Judaism.
Just so you know Desederious Hampel escaped a Serbian prison and lived till 1981. He also fought for Austria=Hungry in WW1. Between wars he worked Forestry. He was my great Uncle..Any questions.PM me.
13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar (1st Croatian) That's the right name of the unit. And the mutiny was small. ANd NO 2:39 that is categorically untrue and and outright lie. Please get the history correct. This video is apocryphal.
@@HistoryHustle It's in the comment. The name of the unit is off. And where you get that AP and the U wanted to convert the Muslims is false. It goes against Starcevic's ideology to the core and I've never ever heard or read anyone even suggest it. Please source. And again the mutiny was because of breach of contract and a small one at that who were Commies. (had to add).
@@HistoryHustle Then either you or your sources named the unit wrong. Also, where does it say anywhere that the Muslims of Bosnia were to be converted? That is something that should be referenced directly. You can read the writings of Starcevic or even Pavelic yourself Redzic isn't the best to use (because of his bias) and my sources are for instance Ivo Goldstein, and Ivo Banac to start.
The Ustashas were not a racist movement. They had both Serbs and Muslims represented in the government, Jews were never their target. They were primarily fighters against the Belgrade Great Serbian ideology. Nobody says what the Serbs did to the Croatian political giants during the First Yugoslavia, they killed and persecuted them like dogs. What the author of this vision is saying is so funny.
Yes, you're absolutely right. They even took care of both of my great-grandfathers, with some help from your friends and nice folks called SS Handschar division. They took them from Bosnia, gave them a free ride to Jasenovac, provided food and accommodation until they passed away some months later. Be proud of that, it tells a lot.
Stefane, what about some video about Chetnicks, Načertanije, 6.Januar dictatorship after assassination of the Croatian political leaders in Belgrade parliament, and war crimes and Serbian nationalistst. It's significant that mayority with the king, army and all power always play a role of victims. It's true that Ndh was a Nazy puppet and horrible mistake, but in Yugoslavia during WW2 wasnt just war against the Nazy but civil war too.
As i remember the 30th waffen SS division made up of Ukrainians and belorussians mutinied too snd join the french resistance after the war they join the french foreign legion
These Ukrainians were originally part of the Schutzmannschaft protection battalion before being integrated into the 30th Waffen SS division in August 1944. This explains why they seized the first opportunity to fight the Nazis and contacted Captain Leclerc, who was in charge of the Belmont maquis, on 27 August, to join the FFI.
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The Jasenovac Concentration Camp in Croatia during World War II
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Why Yugoslavia Joined the Axis... And Then Didn't!
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How “Independent” was the Independent State of Croatia?
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SS-Prinz Eugen
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Great video!
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Heel goed gedaan.
Ik probeerde uit te leggen aan mijn jongens ex-Yu problematiek ervan.
Blijkbaar je video’s kunnen of zullen helpen erbij.
Ik zou je vriendelijk vragen alleen om bij juiste uitspraak van letters en worden meer aandacht te brengen.
Bjv. Majevica is just majevica. Or “handzar/handžar)”-not hanchar.
Shortly, jump on any serbo-croatian-bosnian,ex-YU person for proper pronounce. 😊
U have it where u work,I’m certain.
This summer we (age:11&13)have
visited Jasenovac and they were shocked by what was happened there.
I see,u have covered that issue to. I shall send them links.
In my time,this was a must. But at school we have not learned of handzar nothing into deep.
Raar, begonnen met Nederlands,geëindigd met Engels. 😆
Will je koffie,kom naar Zeeland.
Groetjes.
@@HistoryHustle the bloody antichristians and bloody pseudochristians are still working together
Great video! Finally, a true historian from the West who will look at the past of the Balkan conflicts objectively and in depth. I would add that the cause of the conflict in Bosnia is identity assimilation during the Ottoman occupation and Austro-Hungarian annexation.
...yes the Ottomans truly screwed their Moslem brothers outside the borders of Turkey..treated them as slaves and interiors and destroyed what independent cultures there were in what call today the Middle East...
Don't blame foreigners for what local "Subhumans",have done since 1920
@@Bosniak803 Foreigners' shards remain in their hearts over generations. Rehabilitation is lengthy.
@@Bosniak803 You are literally the product of those foreigners, but somehow they have nothing to do with it lol
@@MarkoKraguljac maybe
i remember over a decade ago i was debating a tyt fan on the topic of muslims in the waffen SS where he believes that it was made up propaganda while i provided sources of their existence, sadly he was too brainwashed and threw out whatever sources i provided as "right wing propaganda", sadly this was the time when such topics like this were not discussed widely and mainly scoffed at because the topic was not Stalingrad or D-Day.
Interesting to read. What is a tyt fan?
@@HistoryHustle Somebody who follows "the Young Turks". A left wing media Network based in the USA.
Ah I see. Does that network has anything to do with the Young Turks from the Ottoman era?
@@HistoryHustle Not that I am aware of, no.
@@HistoryHustle you know the channel the young turks?
This video provides an incredibly detailed and eye-opening look into the dark history of the Bosnian SS Handschar Division. The thorough research and presentation of facts shed light on the division’s formation, its brutal actions during World War II, and the impact it had on the region and its people. The use of historical footage, personal testimonies, and expert commentary really brought the story to life and emphasized the terror and devastation caused by this division.
I appreciate how the video doesn't shy away from the complexities of the division’s origins, including the political and social factors that led to its creation. It’s a stark reminder of how ideology and manipulation can lead to horrific consequences.
Overall, this video is a must-watch for anyone interested in WWII history, particularly the lesser-known chapters of the war in the Balkans. Kudos to the creators for producing such an informative and respectful exploration of a painful yet important part of history.
Many thanks for your reply.
Problematika i jest zasto je osnovana Hanzar divizija,koji su to razlozi nastanka te divizije.Istotiska Činjenica je da je osnovana iz nužde od lokalne muslimanske milicije koja se nije mogla nositi s zločinima cetnika i partizana u istočnoj Bosni nad neduznim civilima muslimanima.
Ako se malo vratimo kroz istoriju progona muslimana iz Srbije Beogradskog pašaluka i Uzica 99% muslimanskog grada a koji su naselili istočnu Bosnu nad kojim se vrsi klanje i ubijanje drugi genocid u istom stoljeću.Osnivanje Handzar divizija je nužna potreba.Nijemci su naoruzali lokalnu miliciju koja je s vremenom prerasla u ozbiljnu vojnu jedinicu.Koju su Nijemci poslije iskoristili u druge svrhe.
Dobar dio ove jedinice je završio u Palestini koji su ratovali protiv Britanaca i zidova.
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@@Aboleo80 Whether AI-generated or not, the facts and appreciation for the video remain the same. Thanks for the laugh, though! 😃
@@Aboleo80he is Serb that wants to sound smart by bashing Bosnjaks
I know the ss handschar mutinied but i didn't know SS kama mutinied too i learn something new today
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Wait, when did the Kama Division mutineered? It was quickly disbanded after its creation. Do I miss something?
I believe it did but not sure about the details. Perhaps something for a future episode.
Titovo komunisti su još tokom regrutacije Bosanskih muslimana u 13 Hanđar Diviziju ubacivati i svoje ljude (muslimane koji su podržavali Tipvu komunističku partiju). Oni su bilo nukleus razdora u 13 Diviziji, pobunu su digli oni a poslije gušenja pobune u Francuskoj vrijedno su radili na tome da se ljudstvo te Divizije po povratku u Bosnu počne baviti dezerterstvom i bijegom sa kompletnim naoružanjem u Partizanski Titovu vojsku. Pola te 13 Hanđar Divizija eje tako i postupilo jer su se po povratku u Bosnu sa obuka u Francuskoj i Njemačkoj lično uvjerili da Wermaht tijesno surađuje sa Srpskom formacijom zvanom Četnici Draže Mihajlovića. A Četnici Draže Mihajlovića su u periodu 1941, 1942 i 1943 g izvršili masovne pokolje nad Muslimanskim civilima što je i dovelo do toga da mnogi Bosanski Muslimani svoj spas potraže pod okriljem Nijemaca odnosno Wermahta.Treba reći još i ovo-99 % Bosanskih Muslimana nikada u svom životu nije ni srela Jevreje jer su Jevreji mahom živjeli u gradovima a pripadnici Hanđar Divizije su većinom bili ljudi sa Bosanskih sela i planina. Njima nije bila svojstvena mržnja prema Judajizmu. Mržnju su im usađivali Nijemci rokom obuka u Francuskoj i Njemačkoj. Kod mnogih bezuspješno jer se polovina ljudstva Divizije po dolasku u Bosnu našla u Partizanima okrenuvši leđa Nijemcima. Četnici Draže Mihajlovića i Nijemci su mrđusobno surađivali do posljednjeg dana 2 Svjetskog Rata u borbi protiv Titovih Partizana .
No man
One of the biggest foreign SS units, along with the Latvian and the Galician.
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The biggest by the size of nation. My grandpa was in Handzar ss. So I know much about it.
@@AkakaDomenjer was he a bosnian Muslim?
And Ustasha.
@@AkakaDomenjer Gledaj film noz I prihvati da ti je deda ratovao protiv svojih sa tudjinskim oruzijem. Bosanci znaju za sramotu u odnosu na hrvate besramnike
both my grandfathers were bosnian muslims and joined the partizans to fight against the nazis, cetniks and ustasas…
Have ever spoken to them? What were their experiences?
@@HistoryHustle yes sure…they were basically teenagers when they joined and probably because others told them that they should go and defend their homeland…both were injured by bullets and one of them saved his friend his life and carried him for kilometers on his shoulders to bring him to hospital…i guess both had kind of trauma from the war but the never talked really about that with us grandkids and unfortunately both died in their seventies and i couldn’t talk about all their experiences to us as we were adults
Thanks for sharing this.
@niquela
fairy tales
Muslims didnt enter partisans until the end of 1943. Before that they were in SS and Ustashe - helping industrial scale extermination of Serbs, Jews and Roma.
Former handschar and kuma waffen ss volunteers fought in the arab-Israel war
Just as worthless then too
@@sv5813Your other comments show the amount of cope. Seethe some further
I mention this at the end 👍
And their methods copied by IDF
Like who? Name one?
For most European countries WWII meant civil war in each of them, and in the East war didn’t even end in 1945.
Zavrsio bi se da vase zemlje nepotpaljuju vatru i prave zarista tamo gde im odgovara!!
Oh which countries? In western countries crossing street on red light to stop some german vehicle to pass immediatelly was praised as ultimate sign of resistance...
Simple poor people are easy to manipulate into hate and fear. And this is what USA and "allies" did ever since ww2 ended, Ukraine is prime example. But its the case literally all around the world every single country has its USA backed party that came to power one way or another or is sanctioned to this day.
@@Ehgh-z2ubas tako.
I researched this a while ago and was doing a school project about it this week and I was looking for your video and this was posted only two weeks ago, what amazing luck
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24:37 this is what can be corroborated by what famous writer and partisan at the time Mesa Selimovic wrote in his book Memories or Sjecanja. I will paraphrase him, he stated that arrival of Handschar division to perform anti-partisan operations meant for partisans that they will have a lack of sleep for weeks, because the division units would keep pursuing partisans for a few weeks and partisans had to keep maneuvering to evade fights with them just so they would return back to their starting position once the division members ended operation, that division was a nuisance but it could not turn the tides of war in Yugoslav theater against partisans, it was introduced too late in the war to matter.
Today, the 13th SS division mostly serves as a propaganda tool directed against Bosniaks: they are portrayed as Nazi collaborators, criminals.." Such and similar nonsense can be found on a large number of Serbian (Chetnik) sites, 757 of them according to a Google search.
Today, every year for the past 6 decades, the French town of Villefrance-de-Rouergue has a commemoration of these Bosniak-Croat soldiers on September 17
REVOLT OF THE HANDZAR DIVISION IN VILLEFRANCE-DE-ROUERGUE
I remember my grandma telling us how her uncles got killed by the Handschar Division in Bosnia. She was a kid and she heard her uncles’ screams after they got taken away. Later on they found their mutilated bodies.
Mashallah
@AzranDidaricGlupane
@AzranDidaric of course you’re proud of your ancestors’s crimes! That itself speaks volumes.
Excellent documentary that sheds light on a little known area of WWII in the Balkans. With respect to the coup against the Pact with Hitler, that was orchestrated, with full British support, by Serbian staff officers in 1941. That slap in the face to Hitler, launched him into a rage against Yugoslavia and the Serbs. Churchill praised the coup leaders saying "Yugoslavia has found its soul..." but it was really the Serbs who were anti-German. The rest of the ethnic groups like Croats, Albanians and Bosnians, enthusiastically embraced the Nazis cause.
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Thank you for telling the truth what really happened in the Balkans WWII. God bless
@@tzoa4443yep now there’s Nazis in Kursk again, Swedes in Poltava again and the French are again in Odessa while the EU and NATO pressure Hungary and Serbia to bend to their will
Lots of Balkan tribalism here. It's always "the other side" that are the bad guys in the Balkans, and "our side" either never commits crimes or is somehow "justified" by other side's crimes and/or whacky mythology. Sad I read it so much.
@@HistoryHustle Could you be a little less snobbish and not pretend the same bloody thing is not happening in the West, even worse? *Sigh* ... Western tribalism... See? Snobbish
Great video. This is so overlooked by history and needs to be told!
Thanks for watching.
those same soldiers rebelled in France
Voor een Dutchie, vind ik je documentaires eerlijk, onpartijdig, en duidelijk/makkelijk weergeven...👍🏻
Dank 👍
Nicely done Stefan! Do you know, whether there are accounts of Handschar SS or Cama SS units direct involvement in crimes against humanity, genocide etc. like it was the case with Skanderbeg SS and Prinz Eugen SS?
Sto ne pricas onsvojim cetnicima koliko su poklali civila Genocidasi
No. They just fight in battles.
@@Erm-pm2pc That would be unimaginable unique for an SS division.
@@Erm-pm2pc😂😂😂😂😂
Did you know that Kama means special curved knife?
Croatian Ustasha invented it to quickly cut throats during executions, instead of using normal knife to see saw cutting throats.
They had competitions in concentration camps who can execute more people (mainly captured Serbian civilians in Jasenovac) using Kama knife.
Record was more then 1000 people by one Ustasha doing is non stop.
Countless Serbs were murdered in bestial fashion like this, including children.
Communists tried to hide just how brutal execution methods were used (like wood cutting saws to cut people heads).
Hundreds of thousands of Serbians were executed like this.
This kind of trauma stayed in Serbian nation for a long time, even though communists tried all they could to hide what was really going on in these camps.
Once you understand just how horrific murders were, it was truly hell on earth.
So there you go.
That's what Kama stands for - to instill fear in Serbian population as they know what Kama is.
Executions by Ustasha were arguably the most gruesome in modern recorded history, but not much is reported about it.
Please can you make a video about bulgarians in SS ? Edit : the information for that isn't that much, but i think it will be interesting idea for a video.
Have no imagery nor information.
For first time I hear about Bulgarians in SS Waffen division?
Bulgaren waren eher Opfer,du verwechselst da etwas 😢😮😅
@@cezar3977Wikipedia has a short article on Bulgarian volunteers in the Waffen-SS.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen_Grenadier_Regiment_of_the_SS_(1st_Bulgarian)
As usual the Brits are innocent...
Explain.
@@HistoryHustleja ću ti objasniti.vu ste govna koja imaju prste u svakom zlu na svijetu.
@@HistoryHustleLong story short, the newest starting point is the League of Prizren. England's interest in bringing Muslims to the territory of the Slavs and Orthodox and through them keeping the whole region unstable due to Russian influence. It is interesting to note that the puppet states during Hitler's time were the first to enter the EU from these areas, as well as that they received support from the West, Bosnian Muslims, as well as Siptars from Kosovo who were also on Hitler's side.
@@HistoryHustle if one need to explain this further, one needs to deduce the fact that you don´t have any education in history.
God bless you, real truth in your statement
Handžar divizija brutaly killed my fathers whole village in ww2, more precisely, everything that moved, women, children, domestic animals, about 360 people ...
bas mi je drago govno cetnicko ZDS
Mashallah
@@Harinjo916 tako je da svi vide ko ste -_-
Was he Jewish? Yeah that's how good they are at: harassing people.
@@arifbayusatrio1028he is a muslim
a fantastic video and a few really good historical facts about the Bosnian Handschar SS.
Unfortunately, I'm missing three very important facts.
1. The fact that the Croatian Ustasa carried out several murders of the Serbian population and deliberately wore the Bosnian headgear (fez) in order to pin the murders on the Handschar so that the conflict between Bosniaks and Serbs would grow.
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2. The Bosnians increasingly realized that they were being exploited and deceived by Nazi Germany for their own purposes, contrary to the agreement. In addition, they understood what happened to the Jews after the deportation. Above all, the realization of what happened to Roma and Jews led to many defecting to the partisans and not the Allied landing in Normandy. That was just a coincidence.
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3. Unfortunately, in France (Villefranche-de-Rouergue) a memorial stone was erroneously erected with the words "in memory of the brave Croats" or something like that, although during the uprising there were less than 5% Croatian people in this unit. Today many Croatian hobby historians claim that there were 1/4 Croatian soldiers in the Handschar, which is absolute nonsense! Just because a Bosnian came from a Croatian part of the NDH did not immediately make him a Croat. The same applies if the surname was not 100% Muslim, that does not mean that this person had to be a Croat. That could have perhaps been mentioned here.
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Perhaps this historical error, which the Croats welcome, will be corrected at some point and written "in memory of the brave Bosnians" or something like that.
Interesting to read m
You are absolutely correct about those facts!
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@@HistoryHustle it's not only interesting it is 100% true my family told us that stories
@@abcvzz 😂😂😂😂 koje viceve vi pričate
Croatians murdering Serbs pretending they are muslims is a lie, both of them took part in genpcide against the Serbs!
What a episode loving the longer format 👍
Great to read!
My grandpa was 2 months in harsh partisan prison after surrendering to Allies in Austria. Allies sent prisoners to Partisans. After prison, he went home and served Yugoslav people's army, right after the war few months later on... Good video, i reccomend everyone to read a book by a french historian Xavier Bougarel, Handschar division.
Thanks for your reply.
@@HistoryHustleTito adopted many Ustasa and Muslim SS war criminal into his army. Serbs Partisans ( 93% of Partisans) who were not komunist were killed, imprisoned and opressed after the war by ex Austrohungarian officer Tito.
@@tamjansan1154 Većina ustaša,muslimana rvatskog cvjeća je presvučena u partizane krajem 1943 i početkom 1944.godine...Tako je Tito dobio direktive da mora da se to sprovede...Svi koji su do proleća 1944 se priključili partizanima su BUKVALNO IZBEGLI ODGOVORNOST ZA STOTINE HILJADA LJUDI KOJE SU UBILI KAO NACISTIČKI SARADNICI...Najveći neprijatelj Srba i Srbije je TIto kojeg su tu postavili Čerčil i Staljin....Zato su se posle i dogodile 1990-te godine kada su bukvalno oni koji su bili nacistički saradnici PONOVO SU POIKRENULI TALAS ZLOČINA I RATOVA....Za sve je kriv Tito...TREBALO JE KAZNITI I MUSLIMANE I HRVATE I TO ONAKO KAKO SU I ZASLUŽILI...
@tamjansan1154 you KNOW you are lying!!! Sviras kurcu mali. Srbi su sacinjavali 123% partizana. He he. Hitno uzmi 1000 mg antichetnixxx tabletu!!!😂
Excellent history lesson thanks. I served with the UN in Bosnia in 94/95. As a keen historian I often broached the subject of WWII with locals. The muslims often simply referred to Croatians as ‘Ustasha’ - they had long memories - however most of the locals (Muslims and Croatians) tended to avoid the subject. Some told me ‘Germans in the towns and partisans in the hills’. Shame the country has been plagued by wars
I mean you can't take everything at face value after so many decades, in particular with decades of yugo communist conditioning.
Thanks for sharing this.
History is full of manipulations on the territory of the former Yugoslavia. The truth is a little different. It is a fact that the grandfathers of Muslims from Bosnia and Herzegovina participated in large numbers in the military units of the NDH. They were in Ustasha military units (volunteers) and in regular military units (home guards). Bosniaks were internationally recognized under that name (Bosniaks) in 1993. They were recognized as a separate nation in 1972 under the name Muslims. At the time of the Second World War, that nation was officially considered Croats. Please note that the official name of the Handžar SS unit was "13th Waffen Mountain Division SS Handschar (1. Croatia)". They had the Croatian coat of arms on their uniforms. So, the "Ustaše" were the grandfathers of the Bosniaks, and today they tell the Croats that only they were the Ustaše...
@@IvanBonic Bosniaks were banned from having their nationality after the serbian king was given Bosnia in 1918 by the British. This oppression lated until our independence.
@@IvanBonic I'm curious if in former yugoslavia you learn about the history before?
Yugoslav accession to the Tripartite Pact on 25 March 1941.
Yugoslavia actually became an ally of the axis, after that the Yugoslav coup d'état happened, and this coup d'état was a british operation.
Essentially the legitimate government of Yugoslavia was couped involving british operators, and AFTER that happened Germany invaded Yugoslavia.
I feel like this is something they omitted in cold war yugoslav education for... reasons..
Complex and chaotic indeed.Thanks for shining your light on this 👍
Greets from Grun' 🇳🇱, TW.
Thanks TW!
@@HistoryHustle Today, the 13th SS division mostly serves as a propaganda tool directed against Bosniaks: they are portrayed as Nazi collaborators, criminals.." Such and similar nonsense can be found on a large number of Serbian (Chetnik) sites, 757 of them according to a Google search.
Today, every year for the past 6 decades, the French town of Villefrance-de-Rouergue has a commemoration of these Bosniak-Croat soldiers on September 17
REVOLT OF THE HANDZAR DIVISION IN VILLEFRANCE-DE-ROUERGUE
Nothing complicated the Serbs were slaughtered like crazy and only they had two anti fascist movements against Hitler četniks and partisans
Niet ingewikkeld rood, wit, blauw, alleen Serviërs hebben de nazis gevochten in formalige Yugoslavie, stank voor dank van de westerse wereld. Tijdens de oorlog in 1991-95 ze hebben die andere kant gekozen. Het is duidelijk vandaag dat west altijd had simpaty for de verkeerde ideologie.
Yes, cetniks wich colaborated with faschists. @@friendofvinnie
Excellent video Stefan, I have just watched it again. This is the most captivating story of all the foreign Waffen SS units. The story had so much great detail. I can only roll my eyes at Himmler finding some obscure text to justify Bosnians as being of Aryan descent, their delusions really knew no boundaries. It also just goes to show how people ended up joining the Axis with the only goal being to protect their family and community
Thanks for watching and your reply. Have a good day!
@@HistoryHustle take care!
@@mammuchan8923Dobar dio ima gtsku i keltski genetiku.
@@mirsadmujanovic5117nemaju ni zere i dobro znate da ste svih potomci Srba! Bez uvrede!
Good. Thanks. BZ.
Did the 14th Galazien not also mutiny?
Thanks for watching. Not sure, you may be right!
What I like about this division is that they joined to stop the chetniks/communists from killing their people and not because of racism or hate. Of course there is always others that did join for something else.
That is where it came down to.
They didn't stop chetniks, they killed children, Roma , Jewish people, Serbians, and those who fought fascists, shame on you
@@visnjalivancic3953 so exactly what he said
@@visnjalivancic3953 Actually the Serbian Chetniks had a financial deal with the Germans- they got paid for every Jew they found and handed over. They hunted them as keenly as the Ustache. The Bosnians were stuck in the middle -many joined the partisans- but their main persecutor -the ones that massacred entire villages-were Serbian Chetniks. That is on historical record. But still -the Serb portrays himself as the eternal victim. Shame on you.
@@HistoryHustlehow can you agree with this? It is simply a lie!
Interesting video as always Stefan. Cheers from Tennessee
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Wow, I dint know you got electricity in America.... keep jamming THE PROGRESS :)
@@4fingers183LOL!!! You're pretty funny for a plonker. LOL!!
Formation of the 16th Muslim Strike Brigade
In the Orthodox village of Bukvik near Brčko, on September 21, 1943, the 16th Muslim Assault Brigade was formed by order of the headquarters of the First Bosnian Corps. April 5 and 6, 1945, when Sarajevo was liberated, was written in golden letters in the annals of the brigade. Fighters of the 16th Muslim Strike Brigade were the first to enter liberated Sarajevo and hung the partisan flag on the Town Hall. A member of the 16th Muslim Strike Brigade was Sheriff Buljubasic, who after his release was a respected diplomat. Buljubasic married Sadeta Pozderac with whom he had two children - Sena and Sead. Sherif and Sadeta are the grandparents of the former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Serbia, Vuk Jeremic, later the Chairman of the United Nations General Assembly. Vuk Jeremić's ancestors are also Murat-aga Pozderac, and he is also the great-grandson of Nuria Pozderac, who was the vice-president at the first session of AVNOJ. Nurija Pozderac died in the battle on Sutjeska.
A total of 3,382 fighters fought
From the formation of the 16th Muslim Strike Brigade to the end of the war, 3,382 fighters passed through the brigade. The composition of the brigade comes from 175 municipalities of Tito's Yugoslavia, and most fighters were born in Tuzla Municipality - 344, then Modriča 219, Bijeljina 194, Gradačac 190, Brčko 158...
As many as 77.6 percent of the brigade members were under the age of 25, and only 3.7 percent were older than 35. The youngest fighter was 4, and the oldest 61 years old. The brigade included members of 12 nationalities: 1962 Muslims, 1084 Serbs, 168 Albanians...
912 fighters gave their lives for freedom
Well then who massacred Bosnian Serbs villages around Sarajevo from 1941 to the end of WW2 also through all BiH ,only in town of Doboj,over 3000 Serbs was sent to Jasenovac by Handžar Division/Handžar Divizija,both of my grandfathers were murdered only because they were Orthodox Serbs by the same Handžar Division
@@goranrajak7534 Nije postojala Handzar divizija 1941,malo si sjebo haha.
@@goranrajak7534 Theirs is all propaganda. If you want to know history read history books not somebody's propaganda. They are all coming out in the open since the unification of Germany. There was never denazification in former Yugoslavia.
@@Ana-bw7gmmost history books ARE propaganda, my darling.❤😂
My late grandpa was partisan in Bosnia from 1943, he told me that there wasn't any quarter given to those SS units. Some of them taking off uniforms during liberation, but they all got bullet in the head. His commander lost his family members by ustashas, so they didn't have a chance to capture muslims and croats alive.
Thanks for sharing.
He joined partisans at the age of 16, in 1943. born and raised in Jagodina, central Serbia. He moved to Bosnia, since the partisan headquarters were there. He said SS wafen were relentless soldiers, they never surrendered, nor were taken prisoners. He was in a recon unit, that eventually first entered Jasenovac and witnessed horrors seen there. He and his units ended the war in Graz, Austria. Never said a word about Bleiburg. I could check his memoirs to see which unit he was in.
His unit was mainly Serbs, I am sorry if someone is offended by this fact.
So he was part of the same people that massacred Croatian civilians and surrendered Soldiers in Bleiburg May 1945?
Communist pigs
REVOLT OF THE HANDZAR DIVISION IN VILLEFRANCE-DE-ROUERGUE
Today, every year for the past 6 decades, the French town of Villefrance-de-Rouergue has a commemoration of these Bosniak-Croat soldiers on September 17
In 1943, on the night of September 16-17, 1943, an open rebellion against the Germans took place in this battalion. The first in occupied Europe.
The 13th SS Mountain Division was established on the initiative of Bosnian Muslim champions, who in their "Memorandum" of November 1942 complained about the Chetnik massacres against Muslims.
The ringleaders of the rebellion were: Ferid Dzanic, Eduard Milutinovic, Nikola Vukelic, Luftija Dizdarevic and Bozo Jelenek. They had some contacts with the French resistance leaders, but all this is still insufficient, unprepared. Who knows what made them make this desperate move - at the moment when all the great powers of Europe succumbed to the German invader. At a time when Bosnia needed them more than ever, to return to her. And to her people. The causes of the rebellion have not yet been definitively clarified, but the anti-fascist mood of the leaders, Dzanic, Milutinovic and Vukelic, certainly contributed to their decision. It seems that they were deceived by one of the members of the French Resistance.
Excellent review Stefan and fascinating facts!! Have a fabulous weekend! Cheers 🍻
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Great video. We definitely did not learn this kind of history growing up in Tito's Yugoslavia.
Thanks again.
if we were educated about that, instead of pushing crimes of the past under carpet in order to keep brotherhood and unity, maybe 90s would turn out differently.
@@ivancertic5197 Nah, regional identities have to be weakened for everyone to live in one nation. See how Botswana handled it.
@@julius43461 As i just read it, in Botswana, 80% of people are Tswana ethnicity. Not a good comparison. Additionally we already tried suppressing local identities during Kingdom of Yugoslavia, and promotion of universal Yugoslav identity, language etc. It didn't went well to say the least.
@@ivancertic5197 Yes, but some would argue that people in the Balkans are also the same ethnicity, just different "tribes". In Botswana they had tribal issues like most of Africa despite being the same ethnicity, but their first president Seretse Khama handled that unscrupulously. From what I read, he took the power away from tribal elders and gave it to district councils. Seized their land, stripped them of right to collect taxes.
@@ivancertic5197 I think the big issue was also the language. You need to find a way to make people use the same language that is either neutral, or is forced on everyone else. English would be a good fit at the moment. Many people speak it already, it's international, meaning that it's not even a language of any specific country anymore(see BBC Pidgin lol)
Why was my comment deleted? "If theres mutiny ofc its us hard headed Yugoslavs."
I myself am Yugoslav & anyone with the slightest experience with Yugoslavs [in Yugoslavia, or raised in Yugoslavia] knows how hard headed we are. Specialy someone like me that was raised German speaking & got a very good & high education as Software Developer outside Yugoslavia, therefore has the ability to compare.
The Yugoslavian character is very unique.
It had to be. My guess is the natural selection due to the territory. Its placed where essentially completly different worlds meet & was the crossroad Western & Central Europe, Eurasia, Africa & the Middle East.
This led to only people with the hardest character & most talented warriors survived.
Im pretty sure thats why we are so good at sports & rank high at many sports despite having a small population.
The Dinaric Alps is also home to the tallest people. Study showed males age 17 at 186cm (6'1.1").
@@nemiw4429 dunno, YT does that sometimes.
Term yugoslav doesnt exist since like 30 40 years ago buddy
Thank you Stefan for this video, and for being objective. I know that I’m asking for a lot but it would be really appreciated if the video had a Bosnian subtitle so all Bosnians can understand.
@MontenegrinHighlander-c5e
👉 Dokaz Bosanske državnosti napisan na bosančici, staro bosansko pismo, 1189.
👉 Bosna kao nezavisna država postoji od 1180. Priznata od Ugarske, pa čak i Stefana Nemanje srpskog, i od papinih izaslanika u Rimu.
👉 Ime "Bošnjak" odnosno starinski "Dobri Bošnjani" postoji od 1166.
👉 Titula "Bosnanski Ban" postoji od 1154.
👉 I za kraj naš prvi bosnanski rječnik je napisan 1624, a tvoj srpski 1818.
Kao što vidiš ovo nema nikakve veze sa turcima.
@MontenegrinHighlander-c5e how yes no 😂😂😂
Rijecnik Bosanskiog jezika je stariji od srpskog jezika koji je vuk Karadžić vijesto preuzeo iz Bosanskog jezika.
Tvrtko je Bosanski kralj mitomanija velikosrpske politike seze do Adama i eve kao srba
@MontenegrinHighlander-c5e First Bosnian dictionary was written in 1631.. Vuk Karadzic copied it in 1818... Do some research, before you write BS
@@admirsalcin3562 Have you forgotten that they know each other, they just have to serve. Even their writers, such as Garasanin, are experts in this. He described what kind of intrigues they did in Bosnia to Serbianize the Vlachs, their doctrine is based on the fact that this is their hearth and to forget the Carpathians and also the indigenous inhabitants of Bosnia, the Illyrians...
Hello! Great video. My father's grandfather was captured by ustasha and along with many other local muslim people taken to Germany for work. He never came back, others that did came back told that he died of starvation somewhere in Germany. Ustasha were very bad to local people.
Also my father's uncle served in some SS division, but I don't know which, they told that he fought on Kursk, and that there was some mutiny. He came to Zagreb alive, but very sick, after he was transported home he died 3 days later. He was 23 y old. That was very tough period of time.
There were several "Croatian' units on the eastern front.
So you're telling me Ryan Gossling was recruting muslim nazis in the balkans?
Lol
This is truly the most thorough video that in a simple way explains every thing. Well done sir. It shows that the intetions of the Bosniaks were merely to defend their homeland from different military formations that pillaged it.
Thank you for another video about this great unit! Please, if you can, do one about the 17. SS-Panzergrenadier-Division "Götz von Berlichingen". They were an outstanding unit, composed of volksdeutsche from Romania, regular germans, french volunteers and even italians. A truly intriguing unit with a pretty good fighting record.
Perhaps one day. Thanks for your reply!
"great unit" WTF?
Muslims in Balkan after Ottoman's downfall experienced fall from grace.... They were the elite in the ottoman times, and then became second class citizens after Ottoman empire colapsed. They were struggling to make an identity and every attempt of them to make their own identity or some kind of sovereignity was brought down in blood. Balkan Christians, Serbs, Bulgarians, Croatians, Greeks... were done with islamic rule and superiority in the region. That is why Bosnian, Serbian and Albanian muslims were fragile ground, therefore easy for the Nazis to recruit to patrol the Balkans....
Yeah but,what Albanian muslims and other muslims do to the Serbs,Bulgarians and Hellenic people for 500 years...There is reason why Muslims here still love Turks and fish that Otoman empire is still here...
The picture with the red fez is not from WW2 but from a modern reenactment group.
I see but it represents it nontheless.
Prijavi ga TH-cam za iznosenje netacnih informacija i mrznja govora.
@@DzontraVolta-of5pq o čemu ti?
@@eazyemco Procitaj kakav netacan sadrzaj ovaj cetnik/ustasa postavlja, procitaj moju poruku jos jednom, i mucni malo glavom. Necu ti jos crtati! Cuj o cemu ja. Nije ni cudo da je BiH u ratu stradala ovoliko kad imamo mamlaze. Dobro smo i opstali!
I see we still have to pretend the British were not responsible for this mess
Well, indeed they arent responsible. Responsible are the antisemites of the cult of Mo.
See my video on that.
@@jimjones1130 the brits werent responsible for that mess. The mess is caused by a medieval ideology.
No, ultimately, it was the Ottomans and their islamic imperialism.
@@jimjones1130 the british? No, the mess already started much sooner than when the brits arrived.
very informative and well presented. I have long wondered about the complexities and interelationships of the axis troops in this regin, and you explained it clearly & succintly . Thanks
No it is not. It's way off.
It would not be bad to mention their crimes in Bosnia from 1941-1945 against Serbian civilians.
Thank you.
The SS Handschar did not even exist until 1943, so first read a bit to inform yourself and then ask a question.
Not so different from the Chetniks and Ustasha, puppets who killed their own people.
@@MB-sh3dzbefore ranting about people informing themselves inform yourself with reality not western invented history
I have noticed Balkan tribalism. With the typical "the other side" that are the bad guys in the Balkans, and "our side" either never commits crimes or is somehow "justified" by other side's crimes and/or whacky mythology. Sad I read it so much.
@@HistoryHustle I don't understand it, if you use logic you can clearly see that every armed force driven by nationalistic/ethnic ideas was prone to war crimes why would "your side" be the exception?
Every SS unit including Handschar, the chetniks, the ustashe, even radical communist elements in the partisan movement-they all did ethnic cleansing and mass murder. We could go into debate on which one of those factions was the worst, but we should all accept the fact that none of those factions left ww2 without their genocidal mark on the map. Nothing to be proud of, nothing to glorify, and no war crime to justify another one. Thank you for keeping your videos objective.
That was the true genocide and only on this teritories
Only 19000 soldiers?Are you for real? How the f do you have so many subscribers? number of inaccuracies on your channel is amazing.
You ok?
@@HistoryHustle I'm fine. Can't say that for your sources.
@@mynick937what do your sources say? Speak…
@@edinnybih75 His sources are history books written by bias Yugoslav communist writers after the war.
You missed a key detail.
That guy Al-Husseini who was rabidly against the Jews?
That was Yasser Arafat's uncle. Not kidding. Explains a whole lot about the Arab-Israeli conflict today.
He didn't miss it, it's just not true. A basic Google search disproves what you say. He was for sure an Anti Zionist . But that is hardly the same as being against jews.
nonsensical logic 🤣
😂😂😂What a fallacy! So,we the Spaniards ought to be expelled from Spain because Franco was a Hitler's ally. And the Dutch people from Netherlands because Mussert was as well..And Jabotinsky, friend of Mussolini.
@@carlospargamendez4784 It's about how and why the animosity started. If you look at the earliest period of the Arab-Israeli conflict, it was the Arab side that wanted war. If the Arab leadership was literally infected with Nazi ideology (and it definitely was - look at Otto Skorzeny's history in Egypt after WW2 as just one example of thousands) it would explain a lot.
@@1jimmarch the joke is not amusing. The animosity started because UK gave a country to a colonialist group without the opinion of the population of that country. Nobody loves to be expelled from his country..The colonialist project had a fake slogan what was a political confession: a land WITHOUT PEOPLE for a people without land. A land without people? Sure? 🤔
Can you do a 12th SS panzer division review?
It would be interesting if you covered the Nazi backed far right groups in Mexico during WW2 like the Revolutionary Mexicanist Action and the Nationalist Synarchist Union.
And the myths builts by Borrego.
Never heard of that. Hope to travel to Mexico one day.
Great insight for someone not from Balkans
Thanks for watching.
we Bosnians did it so we could defend ourselves from the Chetniks. That's why we rebelled against the SS because they wanted to send us to the eastern front. therefore, if you are talking about Bosniaks, first learn the history of WW2.
You haven't seen the video.
@@HistoryHustle But still he's right. Nobody is talking about the atrocities committed against bosnians and particulary against bosnian muslims leading up to wwii(just have a look at how the bosnians were treated after the fall of the ottomans). These bosnian ss formations was a way to protect its people and when they figuered out that they were being set up, sent to other fronts and not bosnia, they mutined!
@@voxpopuli209 Defending naz! collaborators in the 21st century is wild bro... The chetniks were bad, but they were never allowed to commit atrocities before the naz!s allowed them to during the occupation of Serbia. All Serbs Croats and Slovenes, regardless of faith, had very equal rights. Hell the Croats even had their own Banovina, but their greed has no end, what a materialistic people....
WOW! Ohne Fakten,sory.
1943.gab es kein Chetniks in Sarajewo z.B. überhaupt nicht.
Aber gut.Alle sollten am 1945 zu Versönung kommen.Einde dicke Linie und weiter zusammen leben.
Ich meine dass Bosnien heute ist ein Pulwerfas..Protektorat sowiso.
Gesammt Bewölkerung kann nicht "atmen" von Westliche Vertretern .
Dass alle drei Völker bißhen Vernuft haben,die sollten alle "nach Hause"schicken.Und nicht in gar keinen Fall ins NATO.
There was no bosnjaks back then...
My great grandfather was a soldier for SS Handzar, after that he was Tito’s bodyguard and made it to ”Tito’s list”, which was 20-30 people that was exceptional communists. He had 18 children, 14 survived.
and yet Sarajevo still has strong jewish community. Sarajevo preserved Hagada. Sarajevo was liberated by 16th Muslim brigade. While Belgrade and Serbia were among first Judenfrei zones. Red Army had to liberate Belgrade.
Oh just shut up with that nonsense
Kakve gluposti to isprica
@@SerboAssassinIspran mozak je to,jos ne priznaju Burek sa Sirom,to je taj nivo...😂
It's no wonder that you got hold of that Ustasha Judenfrai propaganda, since the Ustasha and the Germans were the ones who cleansed Serbia of the Unfortunate Jews and at the same time killed a hundred Serbs for one German killed in battle and fifty for a wounded one.
Mislis napravili etnicko ciscenje Srba posto je pre rata zivelo 160k Srba sarajlija u Sarajevu, a sada ih ima oko 10-15k.
Thak you yet again for another great video.
I also appreciate your mention of the great error German forces made in fighting guerrillas (Partisans, in this case): this obsession with surrounding the enemy, which was inspired by the ancient Battle of Cannae). This obsession had dominated pre-1945 German military thinking.
Many thanks for your reply.
Chetniks were not only Serb-oriented, they were 99% Sefbs, Serbian radicals. They hated muslims the same way they hated them in Srebrenica massacre in last war in Bosnia. This muslims and Croats in Bosnia asked for any help and joined ustasha or partisans. Because of this terror over muslims, they asked ustasha and Germans for protection against chetniks. They needed arms. So they joined SS. Their mutiny happened when they were told that they had to go in war out of Bosnia. They wanted to defend their relatives in Bosnia.
In the Chetniks in the beginning also non-Serbs served.
@@HistoryHustle in partizan maybe mate that was yugoslavian bolsevism, Tito disallowed every serb to have slava (serbian family holiday) cetniks are formed before ww1 to help in movin Turks away. So no one but serb or who feels serb was that. Try to find movie noz, some of the best explanation of bosniaks and how they become bosniaks and. That movie is must watch to try to get that thing 100% dank u wel 🫡
They weren't radicals! They had muslims and croats in their ranks! 😂
Hey you said you ducth right? Can i ask you..perhaps do you have a video about your own country history abour dutch east-indies or now Indonesian? I want to learn the dutch perspective of my country history that maybe... Maybe not told in my history class.
Thank you😊
(Im sorry if my grammar bad, i hope you understand what i mean)
Before switching to the other video I have to express my gratitude for sharing this excellent information for the public. The research was totally UNBIASED and faithful to historical events that for some "unknown reasons" nobody like to openly address. Bosnian Muslims did also save many Jews, including one famous historical Torah and the history of their migration in the area.
Thanks for your kind words.
What sources does your statement that the ustasa leaders wanted Croatian Muslims to convert to catholicism hinge on ?
Je li to ozbiljno pitanje, matere ti? 😅
@@erminadiegrosse
Najozbiljnije moguce
@@zeljekojakic9360 Ne vjerujem da bi to neko negdje objavio kao neku vrstu dokumenta, ali mogu zamisliti da je to bilo planirano za nekad poslije. Vjerovatno postoje dopisi i sl.
@@erminadiegrosse
Doista uvjerljivo😊
@@zeljekojakic9360 S moje strane nije ni bilo pokušaja da te uvjeravam u nešto. Bilo bi svakako interesantno vidjeti nešto što bi potvrdilo baš to.
it would be better for you to make a film about Serbian war crimes in Bosnia, ethnic cleansing, the killing of civilians, women and children by the Serbian army, about mass graves, about concentration camps that were opened by Serbs, about abused women that they imprisoned and did not release before In the 7th month of pregnancy, you will give birth to Serbs, the soldiers said
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Ne brini ,nisi veca zrtva od Srba😘
Ajde Balijo ne balavi . Hteli ste rat , počeli ste rat , tako da kmečanje i igranje na kartu žrtve slabo pomaže .
Počnite rat ponovo (uljuljkani u samoobmanu kako ste ovaj put jači , spremniji i opremljeniji) pa tek onda ćete plakati .
Ali i o ovoj temi mora da se priča. Handžar divizija je bila čisto zlo, ne vidim problem zašto se o tome ne bi pričalo.
Can you make a video about the Soviet Afghan war?
No way! The Bosnian muslims are angels! Always been……:
Not all...
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🐖💨
Compared to the ustashe and cetniks, yes they are.
@@baklava6138 Mujo ne seri bolan baaa!!!
@@baklava6138compared to utaše everyone is an angel, the Chetnik commited crimes aswell like the ss handschat
Old habits never die. Good video and presentation.
Thanks for watching.
Can you make the balkan wars
which ones? lol
And you didn't mention the phrase "Berlin pao, Odzak nije" ?!? Berlin felt, but Odzak didn't..
That means that days after the fall of Berlin, SS Handzar was still fighting in the city called Odzak in Bosina and Herzegovina..
Believe these were ustasha troops, not handschar.
Fascinating, and yet terrifying.
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why terrifying lol
@@adi862 Because of the consistent war crimes these types of units perpetrated.
@@bigsarge2085 which war crime? ;(
Pronunciation nitpick: "Eugen" in "Prinz Eugen" is stressed on the last syllable, not on the first. "eu-GEN", not "EU-gen".
Unfortunately, almost all youtube historians pronounce it wrong.
I see.
Austrians stress Eugen on the second syllable? We wouldn't do that in Germany.
@@rubatsch1713 Have you ever heard the song "Prinz Eugen, der edle Ritter"? Imagine how weird it would sound if the name were stressed on the first syllable.
But the pronunciation only applies to Eugene of Savoy. If it's any other Eugen, he's pronounced EU-gen, but the one from Savoy has always been eu-GEN. That was so back in his time, and it still is.
And if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Eugene was not German or Austrian, but French and Italian. Both in French and Italian, the stress is on the second syllable. On top of that, the name itself is Greek (Ευγένιος, meaning "noble"), and in Greek, as is indicated by the acutus, the stress is also on the second syllable.
In this 1938 video of the christening of the heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen, you can hear that Germans used to pronounce his name in the same way, too:
th-cam.com/video/0_RpXGzEDLY/w-d-xo.html
I am from Bosnia. When it comes to history, Muslims and Croats are the ones who always welcomed invaders (Otomans, Austo-Hungarians, Axis...) and always after defeat they ask for forgiveness from Serbs and to co-live with them.
It is always good to emphasize that Croats were the majority in the anti-fascist partisan movement with numerous victims. The leader of the Anti-Fascists was Croat Josip Broz Tito. Not to glorify communism, communist crimes and Tito, but to oppose the Serbs and their allies who btw. own this channel who want to portray Croats as Nazi servants. While the Croats were part of the partisans, until 1944 the Serbs mostly fought for Nedić and for the Chetniks of Draža Mihailović in the service of the Nazis and Italian fascists. In 1944 they changed their uniforms.
And Serbs are too naive and always welcome them back- once Nato collapses, and it will at some point; I really hope the Serbs don't make the same mistake again.
My great grandfather died while he was trying to breach from Kerestinac Ustashe prison camp near Zagreb. And his daughter, my grandma, was just a young teenager when she was caught by Ustashe, while trying to smuggle message to partisans. She was taken to Sarajevo - Rajlovac Ustashe prison and was to be executed but on the day she was to die partisans liberated Sarajevo and she was saved. Most of Bosnia and Herzegovina was part od NDH during WWII supported by Nazi. Ante Pavelić, Ustashe leader was very fond of Bosnian Muslims and was proud of them as Ustashe and SS.
Stef, you are excellent at presenting history in an entertaining way
Thanks for watching.
Unfortunately, most partisans did the opposite of liberation replacing one authoritarian for another.
Authoritarian and criminal are not all the same.
Thanks for another greay video. Just a quick question: Was it a 'Muslim SS Division' or the 'Croatian SS Division'?
Don't mix nationality with religion. It was called :
- 13. 'Handschar' (1st Croatian),
- 23. 'Kama' (2nd Croatian).
Handschar was formed from 40% of members of 'Crna Legija'.
At that times Bosnian Muslims were aware of their Croatian blood, but Bosniaks belong to the Croatian tribe (Croats by the knee) as Evlija Celebi from the 16th century calls them, he lived at the Bosnian court for 30 years.
Croatian = Nationality
Bosniak = Regionality
Slavonian = Regionality
Hercegovinian = Regionality
I hope you understand brother.
Long live Bosnia&Croatia 🇭🇷⚜️
Thanks for sharing.
@@kralpetarkrescimeriv.terpi6043 Not for long you will live
@@HistoryHustle Can you see what you were talking about in this video still between the lines? :3
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Muslim joined ss division because Serbs slaughtered them on the border which is the river Drina. And Serbs did the same in the 90s
See video.
Thanks!
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Quite a number of Bosniaks were in the 7th SS division "Prinz Eugen"
before the formation of the 13th division. Thus, after the formation of the 13th Division, most of them asked to join the Handschar, which Himmler approved.
@historyhustle and also Bosniaks are not slavs, slav DNA is about 10-15%. 50-70% is the Illirian DNA and the rest is German and Celtic DNA.
Most purest DNA in Europe is in Bosnia and a part of Dalmatia in Croatia.
These research has done Igenea.
Doubt your claims.
We Bosnians make great fighter but boy do we fight for some shit causes
Let's hope you don't have to fight again.
@@HistoryHustle My father, grandfather and great-grandfather saw combat and unfortunately, I doubt the curse will skip me
Muslimanska, bosanska glupost!!!😂
@@swamifakkananda4043Sa razlogom je bosanac glup u svim vicevima. Nije nas jebo samo onaj što je na voz žurio
Which Bosnians, there's 3
Much like the Finns, the expedient way for the Bosnian Muslims to defend their lands and people from those attacking them was to be armed, trained and supplied by the Germans.
That is where it came down to.
Handzar division were trained and spend some time in France where done atrocities. How did they defend their nation in France?
@@МиланПотић-б9хChetniks also were allies with Germans ans killed many people
Finns were attacked by the USSR in Winter war 1939,
with no provocation.
The were not Axis itself and had no SS units.
No that analogy is not correct you can’t make that analogy, the Bosnian Muslims were not in any way threatened or persecuted by the Serbs until they started attacking Serbian villages and killing innocent Serbian civilians as they opportunistically became a proxy for the German Nazi occupation power and they also allied with the Croatian fascist Ustashas committing horrendous crimes against Serbs in Bosnia and Hercegovina, the attacks from Serb formations towards Bosnian Muslims was only reactive actions as revenge because of atrocities that the Bosnian Muslims committed before, these revenge attacks we’re mainly committed in rage eye for a eye and unfortunately Bosnian Muslim civilians were also not speared in these attacks, but they themselves provocad this with their actions if they hadn’t done what they did in the first place there wouldn’t have been any reason for rage against them and this kind of revenge reaction from the Serbs wouldn’t occur. There is a saying that describes this very well, you reap what you sow.
After the Ottoman Empire, Muslims in Bosnia were created, they never lived Muslim in Bosnia and Herzegovina earlier.
Handzar? Big shame of the people of the Muslim religion from the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Glory to the Muslims with a heroic heart who fought against the Nazis and collaborators like this division.
Many Muslims also served in the ranks of the Partisans.
Muslims tended to be on the side of the Germans so they were in line with them generally.
@@HistoryHustlenot many but mostly Bosniaks was against handjar
Bosniaks had big divisions in Partisans and Titos right hand was Dzemal Bijedic
It was for country, they would get recognition instead of being considered just as muslims,
I do not think that it was a shame for the Muslims to have served in the SS in the same way that it was not a shame for Indians to have served in the SS and in the Japanese sponsored armies. These were people who were occupied and abused by those that they fought against and were justified to take whatever side was willing to support them. The most evil empire in history was the British Empire because no other empire controlled such a vast area and oppressed as may people and for such a long period, over 200 years. So yes the British were not better than the Nazis, and neither were the French, the Spanish, the Dutch and the Americans (complicit in the genocide of indigenous peoples). In British ruled India, in 1943, over six million Indians starved to death as a result of British government's actions. A number almost identical to the number of Jews that perished in the Holocaust.
You have done the best coverage of the war in Yugoslavia on YT.
Perhaps something on Nedic, Ljotic or Slovenia in future ?
Thanks. I made such videos:
Slovenia in WW2: th-cam.com/video/75B7fO0jSrc/w-d-xo.html
Serbian Collaboration in WW2: th-cam.com/video/utoEQ2NqI_s/w-d-xo.html
Amin the Arab Nationalist Imam guy looks like Ryan Gosling
Indeed.
The Battle of Odžak (Bosnia) was the last battle of World War II in Europe. Refused to surrender to partisans, you knew they were brutal. Wars in the Balkans were all brutal killers
Das pasierte,sehr wichtig in Jahr 1946.In selben Jahr haben Brieten manche Stellungen in Serbien bombardiert um zu Chetniks zu bekömfen.Tito hat dies genähmigt.
And them the muslims are saying the were fighting against faschism
That can also be true as muslims fought on both sides in WW2.
@@HistoryHustleyet the ex member of SS Handzar, Alija Izetbegović, became the leader of Bosnian Muslims in the 1990s...
We fought on both sides.
@@sleepguh-m3fthat's true, but around 99% of you for the nazi side..
One member of partizan units born in Lika said that they didn't knew exectly who they were fighting against till 1943. Everyone fought everyone and even killed their own. Killings were on all sides. We should stay aside as much as possible if somewar in Europe start again. That applies to Ukraine as well
Pretty much they wanted to protect themselves.
Indeed.
Pretty much they wanted to kill all the serb civilians
Knowing the disaster of Muslim lands divided, Al Husseini was the only Arab leader and scholar at that time to call muslims to reunite under one Flag since we still pay the taxes of the fallen ottoman empire.
May Allah have mercy on his soul
In 1945 when the WWII why they didn’t capturedAmin Alhussaini and send him to Nuremberg court
Cause he escaped.
2 things to understand: he was a real hero in the Middle East and the French and British were in rivalry for control of the region. The French "arrested" him and then gave him a false passport in May 1946 so that he could travel to Cairo.
Good video, i wonder if some SS handschar veterans are still alive in 2024.
Good question. Anyone?
@@HistoryHustlethere are there is a video online they interview one still alive living in his village home that was in the SS and is muslim
@@faris9109 Yes, i saw it. His soldbuch told he had a Fez as headgear.
How much of the Dutch was member of the SS. Please elaborate your history…
I did.
This is such a good channel
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Fascinating and appalling at the same time, I know the SS had Muslim "recruits" but nothing much more beyond a few photos of SS Muslims in fezzes.
Thanks for watching.
Interesting thema.
My father's uncle, Halim Malkoč SS Obersturmführer was an imam in the Handžar division and he is the only Bosnian Muslim who received the Iron Cross mostly for suppressing the uprising in Vilfranš. He was FC hanged by the new communist government at the age of 30, 2 February when he returned to his native Bihać in western Bosnia on the border with Croatia. You will find information on the Internet if you type his name, there are also photos.
Those SS units used old French made Fezzes. Not all but some. You can tell if it's original on the red stitching.
Interesting to read. Didn't know that.
It was an informative Waffen SS division as Bosnian collaborative to Nazism invaders of Yugoslavia... during WW2. This magnificent work was shared by an amazing ( history Hustle) channel....introduced by Sir Stefan 🙏....thanks for sharing 👍🏻
It just struck me. Waffen es es was simply a German foreign legion…
Parts of it yes, there were many national units, Albanians, Croats, Bosnian Muslims, Ukrainians, French, Dutch, Norwegian....
After all those losses of German Aryan soldiers and Western European people, Himmler had drastically modified his hiring criteria! According to Himmler and Adolf Hitler, Muslims were the most loyal Nazis. That was because they despise Judaism.
Just so you know Desederious Hampel escaped a Serbian prison and lived till 1981. He also fought for Austria=Hungry in WW1. Between wars he worked Forestry. He was my great Uncle..Any questions.PM me.
Interesting.
13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar (1st Croatian)
That's the right name of the unit. And the mutiny was small. ANd NO 2:39 that is categorically untrue and and outright lie.
Please get the history correct. This video is apocryphal.
Care to explain?
@@HistoryHustle It's in the comment. The name of the unit is off. And where you get that AP and the U wanted to convert the Muslims is false. It goes against Starcevic's ideology to the core and I've never ever heard or read anyone even suggest it. Please source. And again the mutiny was because of breach of contract and a small one at that who were Commies. (had to add).
Sources can be found below the video. Care to share yours?
@@HistoryHustle Then either you or your sources named the unit wrong. Also, where does it say anywhere that the Muslims of Bosnia were to be converted? That is something that should be referenced directly.
You can read the writings of Starcevic or even Pavelic yourself Redzic isn't the best to use (because of his bias) and my sources are for instance Ivo Goldstein, and Ivo Banac to start.
I believe it was Pavlowich who claimed this. If it is not true I stand corrected. It is a small detail though.
Why Are you erasing my comments ? You should stick to english history.
Balkan tribalism I reject and so does YT that deletes lots of comments automatically.
@@HistoryHustle 😂😂😂. Balkan tribalism…. Got to love the english.
The Ustashas were not a racist movement. They had both Serbs and Muslims represented in the government, Jews were never their target. They were primarily fighters against the Belgrade Great Serbian ideology. Nobody says what the Serbs did to the Croatian political giants during the First Yugoslavia, they killed and persecuted them like dogs. What the author of this vision is saying is so funny.
Yes, you're absolutely right. They even took care of both of my great-grandfathers, with some help from your friends and nice folks called SS Handschar division. They took them from Bosnia, gave them a free ride to Jasenovac, provided food and accommodation until they passed away some months later. Be proud of that, it tells a lot.
Stefane, what about some video about Chetnicks, Načertanije, 6.Januar dictatorship after assassination of the Croatian political leaders in Belgrade parliament, and war crimes and Serbian nationalistst.
It's significant that mayority with the king, army and all power always play a role of victims.
It's true that Ndh was a Nazy puppet and horrible mistake, but in Yugoslavia during WW2 wasnt just war against the Nazy but civil war too.
Croats and Muslims SS with Nazis while Serbs against Nazis.
Over-simplification. Dare to watch..
th-cam.com/video/utoEQ2NqI_s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iAXdwa8ISUfxZRaJ
They were their own nazis
Handschar is Germanized of the word Hanchar means dagger in Turkish and originated from Khanjar from Persian.
Thanks for sharing.
As i remember the 30th waffen SS division made up of Ukrainians and belorussians mutinied too snd join the french resistance after the war they join the french foreign legion
These Ukrainians were originally part of the Schutzmannschaft protection battalion before being integrated into the 30th Waffen SS division in August 1944.
This explains why they seized the first opportunity to fight the Nazis and contacted Captain Leclerc, who was in charge of the Belmont maquis, on 27 August, to join the FFI.
Interesting to read.