How did Bosnia become 50% Muslim?
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How did Bosnia become 50% Muslim?
Bosnia and Herzegovina is a country in the Balkans tucked neatly between Croatia, Serbia, and Montenegro and essentially surrounded by Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians. Within Bosnian borders, roughly half of the population is Muslim
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Please do one on the sikh empire,king porus as well
Do a video about Gagauz people, Gorani, Torbeshi, Pomaks (Bulgarian speaking muslims)
You could also do a video about the Christianization of Lithuania, or why and how Lithuania became the last pagan country in Europe.
Wish year 3100 Ancient Sumeria Industrialized. Religion would have died out in 2500 BCE
Give me Industrialization over Violent Fairy-tale 'Religions'!
I'm sure the comments are going to stay nice and respectful :)
They should :)
@@Knowledgia never are.
Oh don't worry,it will be about as peaceful as the balkans
Also its still kinda fucked up they converted people through second class citizen tactics. As well as slavery being another way to forcefully coerce people to convert which is sad. As well as wanting to kill apostates such as myself. :/
@@goddamnit7230 no one cares buddy
What a lovely place, the Balkan peninsula. I do hope the inhabitants get along.
Just like I hope the freedom-loving citizens/inhabitants of the U.S.A get along as they should.
@@DonCristian_DPB We've only had one massive war with ourselves. The Balkans are superior because they've had several race wars.
@@randomnessrules4971 unfortunately most of our wars are due to politicians/kings dividing the people. and when you have those 10% retarded nationalists from 3 different nations buying it, then the other 90% have to fight too. its a sad story
Trust me never
pedo mo
Greetings to Bosnia and Herzegovina from Montenegro 🇲🇪🇧🇦❤️💛💙
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Greetings to Red Croatia from Croatian Bosnia
@@ddffgghbjjnbgvcccda Kosovo is Albanian Jasenovac and Albanian Sparta 😝
@@ddffgghbjjnbgvcccda Greetings to Vovodina and Sandzak and Kosovo by Bosnian Muslim
@Elias Schneider Germany is russia remember 45
Bosnia is a beautiful country. I visited in August 2022, went to both Mostar and Sarajevo (I prefer Mostar). I hope to return one day. The people are friendly, the food is nice, and the nation’s history is well preserved.
Mostar is mostly populated by Croats.
@@brankobelfranin8815 no it’s not, and even if it is, so what?
@@YahyaOnYT haha
Mostar's population is made up of the following ethnic groups:
Croats: 48.4%
Bosniaks: 44.1%
Serbs: 4.1%
@@YahyaOnYT It is. simple as that just like many villages bordering Herzegovina and Croatia. Neum is another example of that.
@@brankobelfranin8815i mean still, Mostar is the most beautiful city in the country from a bosniak but the population diffrence beetween bosniaks and croats isnt big (4000 more croats)
I went to Bosnia and loved it. Born Christian but had so many good interactions with the Bosnian Muslims, Croatian catholics and Serb Christians. I'm moving there next year. I can't wait. This video is awesome! Bosnians are badass, super respectful and so damn kind!!
U mean Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats ??? Ok
@@AcknowledgeMeKid Exactly.
@@dn6457 They Are Serbs, I mean just take a good Look at them and their Culture and their Letters, LoL.
@@AcknowledgeMeKid says the russian your country is found by a swedish man and your language is old balkanic bulgarian. you dont know yourself who you are. our culture is turkish and your so called brothers the serbs are even turks. they use 1600 turkish words in their language also. the serbs dont use your brotherly russian words but turkish. your brothers serbs dont eat russian food but turkish foods hahah. your orthodox christian brothers the serbs have the same as us. only we are the real muslims and they the fake christian turks. how can you be othodox christian but everything you represent eat and talk is islamic based!
@@bosnahYUG Hahahaha How come that you never learned that Turkish language? You are still talking the same language that was called Serbia- Croation . You could not learn Turkish in five centuries? If all Slovenes never existed how come that we have almost the same languages, the same alphabet and the same gene?
Turkish people have different gene, language, alphabet and religion. Sounds like you did not go to school if you are saying what you said.
Bosnians had probably accepted Islam due to a combination of factors. Obviously tolerance was one of them, but also many sources claim one of the tenets of the Bosnian church was that they refused to worship the cross, seeing it as bizarre that other Christians worshipped that which had killed Jesus (and some even debate on whether or not they believed Jesus was God or just a prophet of God). This is much closer to Islamic belief, so perhaps the change was not so radical for Bosnians.
from what i learned in school they believed in two gods one was good other one evil but it could be very outdated
"Obviously tolerance was a factor"
The Ottoman Turks introduced a special tax on Christians in Bosnia. Roman Catholics were discriminated more compared to the Orthodox Christian who had the "Millet System" under the Ottoman Turkish rule.
"many sources claim one of the tenets of the Bosnian church..."
Actually that "Bosnian Church" ( or Bogomil sect) died out before the Ottoman Turks arrived. They were all converted by the Roman Catholic Franciscan monks in Bosnia on orders from the Pope ( Papal Bull still exists in the Vatican as evidence).
@@northernstar4811
And still,there are serbian monastery's all over Bosnia,Krajina,Lika and Herzegowina ,orthodox monastery's,that are almost 1000 years old...those were centers of education,politics and religion at that time.
@@duskosekulic5143 I suggest you have a look the online European map of the religious "Great Schism" (Encyclopaedia Britannica). Clearly Bosnia etc was given to the Roman Catholic Church, the border with the Orthodox Church was the river Drina. This was an international agreement signed between Rome & Constantinople.
@@northernstar4811
Those monastery's are much,much older than maps. They were demolished many times but foundations remains. Even tombstones like one that was builted into the foundation of Bijeljina mosque. It was from 12th century with serbian language and cros on it. Supreme archelogical evidence! And it was once more been butried into that very mosque during it's renovation due to "keeping originality" of the building. Actually,that is a culturocide.
Really a solid overview. Good work!
Superb video and fantastic explanation of history of small Balkan country.
Similar conversions to Islam occurred in Bulgaria too, although in a much smaller scale. In fact, a small part of the Bulgarian Bogomils/Paulicians, who were considered heretics by the Orthodox church, embraced the Catholic fate in the 16th-17-th century. Even today there are two small municipalities with a predominant Catholic population - one in North Bulgaria (Belene) and one in South Bulgaria (Rakovski). As to the Muslim Bulgarians, they represent probably about 1% of the modern Bulgarian population. And last but not least, there were various attempts for re-Christianization of the Muslim Bulgarians but there was never a consistent state policy in this direction. What seems to have worked, was the atheist propaganda during the Communism, which affected all religious communities in Bulgaria.
@@marin8862 you mean 1/6 converts from the Bosnian Church... But well what about the immigrants you didnt mention them at all... but maybe there are more than 100 % ^^
I believe many Muslim Bulgarians had to take refuge in Turkey after Bulgaria's independence. They're called Pomaklar (Pomaks) in Turkey. Their numbers are between 300k and 600k.
A large part of Bulgaria is still Turkish so 1% doesnt really make sense
@@TurquazCannabiz "Turkish" doesn't mean always "muslim". There are also Christian Turks.
@@ErPuglia well almost 10% of Bulgaria is Turkish and I don’t think they are all Christian
This is the best and most un-biased video about my country I've ever seen. Thank you for that
Nice so jur a Bosnian
This is truth video, im glad that has 500000views
Thanks for informative videos man. keep it up
Bosnian history 101:
Always molested by neighbours, always survives.
Bosnia is one of those few countries who have been around for a while, since the 9th century (and most probably even before that, pre Roman times if we count Bosnians the descendants of Illyrians), they have always been under occupation but they still manage to exist s thousand years later.
@@LaVaZ000 and yet we are called a "western project" by our dear neigbours lmao
@پیاده نظام خان No what?
Yep even in the 90's. My city of Bihac was the last city to fall under the Ottoman occupation,50 years after the they captured whole of Bosnia. Also that city gave 5.Corps .. a military unit that was known for biggest and baddest battles in 90's war and gave many heroes and defended the city from a planed genocide. It defended occupied city for 3 years with homemade weapon and improvised water pipe guns. U should visit it one day. The whole Krajina region,western Bosnia is the part of the country that breeds finest of warriors. Even the uprising against Ottoman rule came from that part,city of Cazin,and it was successful. Cheers from a proud Bosniak 😀
@@recovermail4260 Ljuta Krajina ⚜
Fun fact: Bosnian church was revolved around having a humble life which lead to none churches being built. People prayed in their homes. Thats the reason why we have no remains of those structures from that period
The "Bosnian Church" has not existed for several centuries. The "church" most likely was the Bogomil sect ( from Bulgaria). The Papal Bull ( order) instructed the Roman Catholic Franciscan Monks in Bosnia to convert all the Bogomils (circa 10,000 members) which they did before the Ottoman Turkish invasion.
HAHAHAHA. How much can you lie about it. Bogumil "church" was outlawed and it was not a church but a cult. When you learn a difference between a cult that less than 1% of people in Bosnia followed and a church then writte a comment.
@@northernstar4811 There are some connections to Bogumils but the church was not entirely Bogumil
@@Vegeta-wc2sn Well there isn`t a single so called "Bosnian Church" building anywhere in Bosnia, plus that area was under the control of the Roman Catholic Church ( see the online map of the religious "Great Schism"-Encyclopaedia Britannica). As you should know the Roman Catholic Church never tolerated other churches on its territory. The fact is all the Bogomil sect were converted peacefully by the Franciscan monks before the invasion of the Ottoman Turks.
As far as I know Bosnians were mostly Bogumils/Bosnian Church Officially they said they are Catholics but in secret they practiced their own religion .
I was born in Sarajevo Bosnia Thankyou for this well made historical video.
Eto tako su ti praprabaku silovali Turci well made pozdrav iz Hercegovine
Bosnia has always been special in Yugoslavia. And Bosnia is special in Europe as well.
BOSNIA ❤💪🌷
What do you mean always? Yugoslavia existed only 47 years. Bosnia was always independent
Misliš turkobosna
It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say:
I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.
Reference : Sahih Muslim 1767a
In-book reference : Book 32, Hadith 75
@@bosnabolan1074 where did you get your religion from Christianity comes from the Middle East why does it matter to you your the son of a Jew
Wow, a lot of my favorite TH-camrs are uploading on my birthday, this is great XD
Really nice video and very useful information
I love your channel keep up the great stuff
Love your channel man, keep it up
Thank you @Knowledgia for making this video about my country. ⚜
very factual and non biased video about my country. U dont see videos like this often. Good job
Nicely explained.
We are proud to be Muslims
Sorry to see that
@@paul_321 to see what
@@alphaomarbarry6511 that you’re proud of being a moon worshipper
@@paul_321 Don't be sorry trust me.
@@paul_321 sorry that you exist
Fantastic job👏🏻👍🏻
As soon as i saw this vido i immediatly clicked on it,hello from Bosnia.
Hello there!
Здраво!
@@Knowledgia please do on the sikh empire
@@ajithsidhu7183 Yes.!
An empire of our PANJAB ❤️
Love from gujranwala lehnda panjab.
birthplace of MAHRAJA RANJEET SINGH
@@sughdeepsinghdhillon8722 don't forgot our great muslim leaders like sultan jalalahudin who helped unite punjab and king porus who protected our lands from Alexander the great
Love Bosnia ❤️ beautiful country and people.
May God always be on your side.
Thank you ...😑😑😑😑😑
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thats a good unbiased narration. thanks
Could you do another video about Albania how 56% of population became muslim?
Bro it more then 70% muslim and kosovo almost 95% muslims and Macedonia almost 40% muslim
@@mdgani7848 Kosovo is Serbia but true
Ah, Pope and Hungary/Croatia consider bosnians as heretics is the main reason, 2nd is their slavic brothers serbians also comsider them as heretic, so when ottomans conquered Bosnia their people finally feel safe, not really safe but a way safer than under catholic rules
@@ammarhaziq919 They considered them Heretics because they had their own church, witch was different from classic christianity, I wouldn't agree they considered them heretics Serbia had pretty good relations with them tbf.
@@ammarhaziq919 your right, same happens in india with dalit people, hindus rejects them that's why many of them became muslim
Thank you so much.
Very good and informative video, greetings from Serbia :)
Keep fighting Muslims. Hello from your Christian brother in America
@@GandalftheWise Hello from a Bosnian Muslim in America. I keep fighting you bigots even here in the US. Power to freedom, death to fascism.
BALKAN MUSLİM COUNTRİES STRONK 🇹🇷🇧🇦🇦🇱🇽🇰
I HATE S*RBİA
@@GandalftheWiseI SEE W*STARD
A very nice and factual review of Bosnian faith-based history. Thanks kindly!
I just want to thank our Malaysian brothers and sisters who support us on literally every video about Bosnia. Love to Malaysia 🇲🇾 ❤ from Bosnia 🇧🇦⚜ ❤ We appreciate you a lot!
How they can be your brothers?
You speak the same language as Serbs/Croats, you share the same haplogroups as Serbs/Croats, you share the same mentality as Serbs/Croats, you look like Serbs/Croats...yet Malaysian are your brothers ......OK LOL😆
The nexus between Malaysia and Bosnia is religion, U know what I mean, do'nt ya?? 😎😂😅
Actually it's 54% muslim now by 2021
@@user-mg5jk6zs7i Izvor?
Great job dude. 👏
💖Amazing video, thx for sharing this info about my home country and our religion 💖💛💖 Selam alejkum to all who love Bosnia 💜💪
Love Bosnia-Herzegovina❤️❤️
From Indonesia🇮🇩🇧🇦
I love indonesia From iraqi sunni my grandmother from indonesia 🇮🇶❤️🇮🇩
Thank you Brother .... 😑😑😑😑
Great video ♥
I really like the Bosnians.
thank you
Back at ya🥺♥️
Im curious, but where are you from?
@@citrine6469 I am an American former soldier.
Thanks bro. Greetings to America from Bosnia 🇧🇦🇺🇲
While the Bosnian Church may have disappeared with time, its stance against both the Pope and the Patriarch of Constantinople will forever be remembered in the struggle for independence.
There is no Bosnian church,it's called Croatian.Bosnian Muslims are Turkish Croats
"While the Bosnian Church may have disappeared with time"
That "church" hasn`t existed for several centuries. The Roman Catholic church (Franciscan Monks in Bosnia) coverted them all before the arrival of the Ottoman Turks.
@@NoName-yr1vh You croats are beginning to talk the same shit like the serbs
@@lejs1974 as a Croat im truly sorry for people like him who spread nationalist ideals, we know Bosniaks have their own identity✌🏼💯
Balkan powder keg they said, this people is ethnically the same yet they doesn't like each other.
Eternal enmity between each other, try to get along guys.
Very interesting video. The link to geography is incredible
Bosnia's people are fascinating. They march to their own drum, that's for sure.
We haven't had our own drum since the 14th century, silly
Well i have to say,thank you for covering my country in your channel it’s really rare to see someone does it, job well done tx👍
Bosnia is Albania
Wow super fascinating video. I had always wondered about this but had not yet read up on it. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Much love to our brothers and sisters in bosnia and herzegovina from saudi arabia
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My great ancestors were Bosnians.Greetings from Turkey
And respect > right back !!! 😑😑😑
Long live Türkiye.....
No wonder people say that turkey's turks ain't actual turks
You can still see the medieval tombstones from the times of the bosnian church, they are called stecci.
seen a bunch when i was in Hercegovina, Grandparents live in Kucrein near Siroki Brjeg...lots of bogomil cemeteries
malo je srednjevekovnih ,steci su puno stariji nego sto zvanicna istorija tvrdi i nisu srednjevekovne Bosne jel pod jedan Bosanska drzava nije bila u tim granicama ,drugo ima ih sa datumima dok Bosna kao drzava nije ni postojala i trece sto govori da su puno starini ljudi koji zive na tim predelima ili krajevima nemaju secanje na njih to jest ko ih je pravio .Prvobitna istrazivanja su ih datirala na starost preko 3000 godina .To ima smisla pogotovu oni ogromni koji nemaju nikakv pismen podatak vec samo slike kola ,zivotinja i td.Ima par stecaka ispred Sarajevskog muzeja sa interesantnim pismom koji vise podseca na frigiski ili zvanicno anticki grcki i pisani su ogledalo stilom ili sa desna na levo isto kao i Ertrursko pismo .Zanimljivo je da se tako pisalo bas negde pre 3000 godina .
@@Dobis86 they arent bogomil
@@vesnanuspahic7510 a lot of Stećci have Christian symbols
@@oreocarlton3343 Bosnian "Church"...Bosnian christians..
Finally a truthful and an academical video with no affiliations to anyone about the nation of Bosnia. Even tho there are still a few little details that have not been mentioned for this story to be 100% correct in each and every single way possible, it is still a very nicely done and made video, which i enjoyed a lot.
I have been a subscriber to this channel for over 2 years now, and to see a video about my own country is really something worth experiencing. I support this channel a lot and will continue to watch and enjoy all the videos. Keep up the good work!!
What nation of Bosnia? Do you mean those that were brought from all over Ottoman empire or the natives? Natives mostly carry Serbian orthodox last names. There were so many migrations in Bosnia, Montenegro, Serbia and back. After each rebellion, people would move to another ottoman province. The best part of the Bosnian saga is that even administrative lines changed over time. That means that parts of today's Croatia and Serbia were in Bosnia.
@@maxmagnus777 ko nam je to salty 😂
@@dzenanimamovic5108 Average serb fan virgin
@@maxmagnus777 cope
@@maxmagnus777 reduce use narcotics
Love and subscribe from Bosnia❤
Great work man, such an objective and well made video, it's truly amazing
Not objective and starts with a lie...
Jako loš video, informacije prikupljene vjerovatno sa wikipedije. Toliko netočnih tvrdnji i još Turci prikazani kao neki friendly osvajači 😄
Pa onda tvrdnja da su činili 2/3 Bosne je laž. Katolici su bili većina do kraja 17 stoljeća kada se iz Bosne povlači E. Savojski i Šokci sele u Slavoniju. Kasnije su pravoslavci većina a u globalu kršćani su uvijek bili većina pa tako i danas.
😂 mate this started to say that Ottoman empire had Shiism believe 😂😂 If the beginning is crap, the rest will be lie.
Bosnian -old serbian people.
Be proud
@@milutinitc4937 How does it start with a lie? You are just angry that he doesnt agree with your serb nationalist narrative.
May God bless and save the Bosnian Nation 🇧🇦⚜️
Greetings from the land of pyramids
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I love bosnia
@Zeno the Filipino Also the ones who killed Serbs and Croats during Bosnian War.
bro you have the wrong flag for sudan
@@teomandoksanoglu7773 egypt isnt Sudanese
@Safwaan yeah that was my reasoning
I love history ...
Me too
It's BS chanel. Bosnia was Serb since forever,hé didt even mention.
Hey have a wonderful nite 😘💖 be safe out there.....
@@STASHYNSKYI jer…su srbi nekad davno bili katolici 🤣🤣🤣
Love to Bosnia from your Kazakh brother in Islam 🇰🇿 ❤ 🇧🇦
God bless you all.....😊😊😊🌘🌘🌘
Love to Kazahstan!!
Great video, as objective as possible
Nice video with clearly explained this issue about Bosnia 🇧🇦 Herzegovina especially its history created thanks for sharing
*Shows Kosovo as Serbian*
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Lmao I didn't even see that
@@hugo57k91 Because it's normal
well it's not, look at the border lines on the north, he just made it yellow so you serbs don't rage in the video saying "Kosovo is Serbia"
🤦♂️😂
@@blackpill7856 You mean the administrative line of autonomous region of Kosovo and Metohia? And, yes, Kosovo & Metohia IS Serbia. :)
I am Bosnian and I am proud. I was raised to respect and love. Our deferences should bring us together so we can share our believes and culture. We are all humans who have same goals to live, to take care of our love ones, to support each other. I will always support kind and good people regardless who they are, those who spread hate and violence are not welcome in my life.
and what exactly are you proud of? being converted?
@@sretslad1781 I am proud of who I am!! I can’t change what happened 500 years ago. This is my time and I cherish it. It looks like you live in the past. I feel sorry for you 😃.
@@AdiAdi-mn4bw you implicated you are proud of bosnia so i just thought what exactly you mean by that. good for you being proud of yourself that i can understand at least
@@sretslad1781 He means what he said. We're proud of our history full of courage and heroism. As a nationality. Im also proud of being a muslim. My ancestors made the right decision
@@koceyne2712 proud of what exactly? xD
im really curious.
Well your ancestors havent had that much of a choice. so i still dont know what you guys claming to be proud of.
your rich history full of courage and heroism? xD xD xD
i mean its kind of the opposite isnt it?you are the descendant of not so brave people that didnt want to die and live. if your ancestor were brave theyd still be christian and fought the tyranny of the ottomans. but they didnt. and now you are proud... i think your grand grand grand grand grandfather would be very ashamed of you. and btw... in those 300years ( which is nothing) bosnians did what? thats right... nothing :D
Bosnia - the most special country in the world !
Yea give faith for privilege
the only special thing is their people
Besides Palestina
@@SERBIA1389SERBIA How are they giving faith? The church the Bosnians believed in would be considered heretical anyways. What did your ancestors worship prior to christianity?
@@izgr0
I like that👍
We have same language
Don't worry about religion
It's not a game it's life❤🕊😇👍
Thanks knowlegia for featuring our beautiful country, greetings from Bosnia 🇧🇦 ⚜
The brave Bosnian Nation
Muslim brother
Assalamualaikum from India
Pozdrav za Sarajevo i Mostar (i naravno sve ljude dobre volje) iz Novog Sada
@@aaryanqureshi5326 I'm from bosnia and I love india 😃
So interesting, honestly didn't know about this. You should do Albania next.
Answer is money and power
Nah… muslims pay the exact same tax… which is called “zakah” which is exactly 2.5% of your wealth yearly. I’m actually kinda sure that the jezyah they had to pay was less than that amount. (Simple because anyone who didn’t have a lot of money can apply for certain things that exempt them from that tax).
@@EmperorOHI Really? The Jizya tax could go as high as 50%. There's literally a Hadith where Mohammad allows Jews to live on their land and cultivate their land if they pay 50% of the produce as Jizya. Don't think that people are fools
@@aryan_bhat
give me the hadith, don't talk in the air
@@mehmed13 Here you go:
Sunan Ibn Majah 2469
It was narrated that Anas bin Malik said:
“When the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) conquered Khaibar, he gave it (to its people) in return for half (of its yield).”
Grade: Sahih
Thank you for this from a Bosnian muslim!
Islam is false
Thank you for making this video, grettings from Bosnia 🇧🇦❤
Mehmet The Conqureror spoke Bosnian in Bosnia and instantly 50 thousand people became Muslims. If you ask people in the Turkey about Bosnians, everyone will say that they are our brothers in the Balkans, so we have always treated the Bosnian immigrants in the country well.
@@tugrulgul570 ❤
@@user-dz4pb2ll3k no, Turks hate Islam as much as Americans hate Christianity, but most of us are Muslims.our people love
@@tugrulgul570 but u turks are becoming atheist
@@tugrulgul570 yes thats true! I am a Bosniak with Turkish roots (my ancestors came from Konya to Bosnia). Still today i have many relatives in Turkey. We are brothers and we always support each other. Turkey is our motherland 🇹🇷🇧🇦
Beautiful video! As a Bosnian, I love it! Bravo and great job on the topic, keep up the good work! 🇧🇦⚜
You are Bosniak, not Bosnian. Learn how you declare yourself.
@@rasosteva Yes. By my etnic belonging I am a Bosniak. By my geografical belonging, I am a Bosnian.
@@rijadahmetovic4316 Hm, there are few geografical belongings. Krajina, Bosnia, Hercegovina, Semberija. Glad to see that after centuries of violent islamisation you still have christian symbols and like to use them.
@@rasosteva da si pogledao video, shvatio bi o kakvoj se religijskoj promjeni govori. Po pitanju vjerskih smbola, dovoljno govori da je mjesec i zvijezda, kao karakterni simbol Islama, koristio u prvim srpskim zastavama i dan danas se koristi o zvanični simbol Republike Hrvatske.
@@rijadahmetovic4316 Mjesec i zvijezda kao simbol Ilira su 6,7 vijekova stariji od pojave Islama. Taj mjesec i ta zvijezda koju spominjes kod Srba i Hrvata je zbog ilirskog pokreta i zelje naroda za oslobodjenjem i ujedinjenjem. Sto se nije pojavio kod vas? E pa, neko nije zelio slobodu od Otomanske carevine.
As a Bosnian and European, our unique religious heritage has always given me a great sense of pride. Much to the dismay of our enemies, that can never be broken.
bosnia love arabs, bosnia hate infidels
@@dismas8884 Bosnians don't care about Arabs or so-called infidels.
@@tarik6990 then you are fake muslim
@@dismas8884 Whatever floats your boat.
@@tarik6990 wake up from this shit and come back to Christianity where you belong to!☦️ Don't you see if you only say something that your muslim so-called "brothers" don't like it, they won't hesitate attacking you! You have to embrace the Christianity if you really belong to Europe! You have nothing in common with those cammels, except the thing that you were converted to their fake ideology!
Very interesting, excellent explanation and answers many questions I had. I am presently involved with activity in the Balkans and was confused about the histories and attitudes of the region.
It is not based on the facts. Bosnian church was-Orthodox Church, Serbian people were majority in BiH for centuries. Muslims were identifying themselves as Serbians mostly up to 1974 year. They new their roots, they celebrated Christmas and Saints as were Serbs doing.
@@miraman1516 K' nozi đikane!
We bosnians are extremely stubborn and do not respond to authority. No matter what religion we are. We just have to be from the same country. Hands down this is so true.
Wtf you were on the side of every occupator... Ever
@Complex CR ottomans austro-hungarians, germans
Unless someone offers a bag of salt. Then all bets are off.
@@milutinovac0118 Yes like Draza Mihajlovic serbian national hero who joined the nazi Germany.
@@milutinovac0118 No Mile you don't have the right to say anything since your ancestors were for 500 years in our service 🤫
We are basically the champions of being hated by everyone. Lol. Also, this video explained a lot. And stop calling us Turks, we are Bosnians and the fact that we changed religion doesn't change our nationality. Whole ass continent changed religion at one point and I see no other nation being called something else. Just let us live and stop genociding us every twenty years. As we always were nice hosts, everyone is welcome to live but respect the country. This country also saved Jewish people from Spain from being completely obliterated and welcomed them in our country with a synagogue. ( Read about Sarajevan Hagada ).
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ISLAM U BOSNI JE BIO PRJE OSMANSKOG CARSTVA ZNACI I KADA SU OSMANLIJE DOSLE U BOSNI SU VEC BILI PRIJE OSMANLIJA MUSLIMANI.
Pišeš besmislice.
Naravno da ste "promijenili naciju" . Pa pročitaj, proguglaj što piše SLUŽBENI PUTOPISAC Osmanskog Sultana, Alii Čelebi (Alija Čelebija).
Piše na više mjesta o "stasitim gazijama čistim Hrvatima"!
Neka vas tamo, ne trebate nam nazad, nego samo ti napominjem da pišeš ludosti, istovjetne svetosavskim metodama.
Ne postoje "Bošnjaci", kao nacija, to je hrvatski regionalni naziv, kao Slavonac, Ličanin, Posavac.
Uostalom, dok se 1993.niste "sjetili" kako se zovete, 95 posto sjećanja na Bošnjake se održavalo kroz hrvatsku tradiciju.
Pa čak i prezime Bošnjak je i dan danas dominantno među Hrvatima.
Dakle, te nebuloze možeš prosipati na internetu, ali čim dođete na znanstveno polje postajete luzeri i tragikomični likovi kojima se smiju iza leđa a ponekad i u lice.
Prihvatite istinu, vidjet ćeš da ne boli...nitko vam danas ne uzima posebni identitet, ali ga nećete izgraditi na laži.
@@robertoabelovic8553 To što si napisao je ne samo oksmioron, već teorija zavjere. Nadam se da si ti to lično izvukao iz svoje uznemirene glave i da to zapravo nije stav hrvatskog naroda, jer ako vas ovo uče na faksu, ja se brinem za vašu naciju koliko i za srpsku.
Dobri bošnjani bili tu koliko i šahovnjačari, čak smo imali apsorbirane više od pola vaše trenutne teritorije, dok ste vi imali dijelove današnje bosanske krajine.
Ja ne gledam sebe u lice već čitam francusku, tursku i austrijsku historiju kad hoću da vidim šta se desilo između naše isprepletene historije koju ste vi pojedini bjednici krišćanizirali i islamizirali. Tužno je vidjeti povampirene hrvate kao što si ti. Sve pripisujete sebi, čak i Hercegovinu koja je trajala koliko i piva na suncu. Logika svega toga je da i mi 65-73% teritorije vašeg mora i otoka možemo komotno da isto tako tražimo nazad jer se vama posrećilo uz turke i kasnije uz Jugoslaviju pa ste doslovno oteli dijelove od Bsanskog Kraljevstva a kasnije od Bosne i Hercegovine.
Ako ćemo voditi historijski spor, onda smo obje nacije koje su krale od Ilira a ko je pokraden od njih ko zna.
Potrudi se da ne ispadaš glup nigdje ovako, molim te. Meni je užasno neugodno.
@@Bosnian_Prince97 prestajem čitati čim vidim "vi" i "mi", i slične nebuloze El Fatihovih sljedbenika
Bosna nije ništa drugo nego povijesna dio Hrvatskog Kraljevstva, i to ne dovodi u pitanje apsolutno nitko normalan na kugli zemaljskoj.
Nakon izbora Arpadovića za kralja, lokalno plemstvo se ponašalo različito, ali je nedvojbeno da su i svi banovi Bosne potomci Ivana Borića, hrvatskog plemića.
Ti sigurno nikada nisi ni čuo za Supetarski kantular 😂😂😇 koji je saamooo jeedaan od stotina izvora .
Što bi tek rekao za današnju Italiju ?! Imali su preko DVADEST SAMOSTALNIH KRALJEVSTAVA !
Pa to ne znači da to nisu sve talijanske kraljevine.
Tako i Bosna.
Najtragičnije je kada čak i Hrvoja Vukčića Hrvatinića "smjestiti" u neki drugi, nehrvatski kontekst.
Pretužni ste
Nikakve veze vi, današnji Bošnjaci , iako ste genetski Hrvati, nemate sa bosanskim kraljevstvom
Vi ste njegove ubojice, Glavosječe u stvarnom i figurativnom smislu .
Vi ste poturčene i islamizirani sluge okupatora i od te tradicije ste razvili moderni identitet .
Mi vam to ne osporavano, tu ste, sustanari na način kako je to antifašistička borba i ZAVNOBIH odredio .
Izmišljanje "ljepše povijesti" je loša kopija otrcane Svetosavske ideologije, jer i jedni i drugi na "temelju" toga pokušavate osvojiti ono što nije vaše.
Poznata mi je vaša nebuloza o "temeljnom narodu".
Jedan je temeljni narod Bosne, hrvatski narod.
I umjesto da budete zahvalni što prihvaćamo sadašnje činjenično stanje i je osporavamo vam suvlasništvo nad BiH, vi glumite loše Svetosavske glumce .
To vas ne može dovesti na pravi put.
Knjige u šake, puunooo guglaj, pa ćeš mooždaa postati svjestan svojih dubokih zabluda .
Puuusaaa 😅😅😂😇🤣
I'm so lucky to find this video
I live in Bosnia and this is literally what we learn about how Islam came to Bosnia as well. It's not much different really, except our teacher used to tell us that Bosnian church wasn't really similar to Catholic and Orthodox churches of the time. Apparently Bosnian church denied trinity, also did not pray towards a cross, and did not allow church hierarchy that was present in other churches. So like the way it was explained to me was: Bosnian church definitely stemmed from Christianity, but it had some major differences that made it qualify as heretics. Also they absolutely despised the practice of "indulgence", aka paying to the church so that they suffer less in hell- which was practiced in Christianity. Plus, Bosnians didn't really pray the way Christians did, there isn't any specific rituals that can be pointed out really. They also didn't care much about religion in the first place apparently.. According to what my professor said, the prayer was more of a "talking to God" type of thing?
Along with all that, the constant pressure which you mentioned also made people of Bosnia "cold" towards Christianity. Considering also Islam had many similarities to the Bosnian church (at the time), with the "incentive to convert" rather than force, I think was enough to "soften" many Bosnians towards Islam. According to what I've also heard, Ottomans would kidnap non-Muslim kids for janissaries- but Muslim Bosnians would go on to join janissaries themselves very often. Like families would send their sons while kids to train with janissaries. I am a Muslim (my family really has entirely Montenegrian roots), and I have heard stories by my grandparents about their elders (there is a lot about my family that was written and told to others) going to Istanbul for either military education voluntarily, or just simply going to serve the army, or go get education. I'm not sure how correct all of it is, there isn't much to talk about when it comes to Bosnia as there isn't many records.
P.S.: Watch out for the Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks in the comments trying to say ban Kulin or king Tvrtko was either of those. One of them is Bosnian bogumil, other Bosnian catholic. Go on and fight until your fingers fall off from typing.
I disagree with that.
The Ottoman policy was divide and rule.They would Islamize certain regions of the Balkans like in Greece, Bosnia, Albania and Bulgaria to ensure that their vassals had control over the nomadic Christians.
No Christian family willingly sent their sons to Constantinople.
By that logic all the Uyghur muslims voluntarily gave their children to Chinese Maoists who took them to Beijing to become great officers.
Lol bosniak is turkish term for peasent
@@personaldove wouldn't say that. Despite the popular opinion, Ottomans did renovate churches and built majority of 'hospitals' in Serbia, also treatment wasn't that bad in the beginning. Also let Serbs to continue practicing the GOC, although for a price, they did not try forcing anything.
@@lukababic5623 So how did Belgrade become a muslim majority city?
And why were there always Serb revolts and two exoduses that led to the Great Serb Migration?
Also, why did the Serbs of Bosnia flee to Croatia as refugees after the Ottomans conquered?
Cheeki Breeki
There is another point that should be considered in this subject. When Mehmed II conquered Bosnia in 1463 he gave them a speech in their language about their religious rights. This is pretty big for a local citizen when you think about it in those ages. A foreign "heathen" head of state conquers you and address you in your language about your rights. They still commemorate him today.
Doesn't have anything to do with that. Mehmed II spoke i think 5 languages fluently and one of the languages was Serbian. Anwers in Bosnia lays in Hungarian wish to conquer those lands for very long time, constant crusades against them as recognized from both denominations as heretics (check for Bogumils) and finally for the rulers of Bosnia who shifted to islam before the rest of the people.
@@bojanblagojevic5759 I am not saying this is the most important reason but ratger it should be mentioned in the video. It is not important when you think these times but it is a nice touch when you consider that ages.
@@muhammedaliisk4578 Yeah i understood. From that point of view yes. Definitely would be huge difference if you have a conquerer which speaks your language then some Hungarian who wants to impose his rules. Just wanted to point out that doesn't have anything to do with their transfer to Islam. At least not immediately. For example the last Bosnian king was killed by Mehmed II in person. He personally cut his head. Didn't mean anything to Bosnian king that Mehmed II was speaking Serbian in that moment. 😁
Kosovo is Serbia 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
Not islams 🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸
This is actually one truthful and informative video. Good job
I'm yet to see foreginer pronouncing Herzegovina right
This guy tends to pronounce a lot of things wrong, from my experience watching his videos. Hence his mispronunciations of Catholicism and subsequently.
HERCEGOVINOOOOOOOOOOOO
Very good video. I was expecting a mention to srebrenica as well but maybe your intention was to not enter in controversy. Cheers
Well, those Bosnians obviously were not slaves and knew how to defend themselves even against mighty medieval empires.
I heard that the real reason why they converted to Islam is that Ottomans brought a whole brunch of business to Bosnia - handiwork, craft, trade, construcion etc. and payed the Bosnians well for their work, while the Pope and the Byzantines just wanted to convert them to their churches by force.
That's why Bosnians sympathized with the Ottomans and Islam - they finally achieved peace, wealth and order after centuries of hard imposed catholic and orthodox repressions.
When we talk about Western seculerism and it's ideology..they just lecture us that we are barbarism not educated like they are in Western nation..so..they don't even respect another value differ from them but they humiliated them.and then they wonder why they hates us? so ignorant..Western value really racism by nature
Bosnia is a completely unique country.😘🇧🇦
No
@@Croat955 Why no?
They are Bunch of European Turks,from a Croat
@@Croat955 Najsiromašnija država u Europi skupa s Albanijom 😃
@@NoName-yr1vh That's a slur and you know it. Go wash your mouth.
So Serbia fell before Bosnia 🇧🇦
It makes perfect sense Nothing is stronger than Bosnian fist 👊🏻
When Bosnians are shoulder to shoulder and together nothing can touch them
Great video
How would a 2000lb. bomb do?
@@schoolssection it was attempted before back in 1990s bomb was actually 200,000lb nothing happens.
Legend says bomb is still hovering but it’s scarred to fall down.
True, but the Serbs did have the courage to keep their faith, and not simply convert.
@@DokterRoetker Nothing wrong with taking tru path 👍🏻
@@DokterRoetker Seems you didn't watch video... Plus, it seems you didnt read about bogomil religion which was practiced in Bosnian Church, and bogomil similarity to islam...
Thanks for making something about my country
Awesome video. As a Bosnian historian and a Muslim I would say this is a best video on the topic on the internet. Thanks for creating it!
to je zato sto se ne spominu srbi :)
As a Bosnian muslim, I think that this video rounds it all up and explains everything well very objectively.
@Arid Sohan I know much about islam and muslims in general. What exactly do you mean?
There is only one islam and if people choose to follow it they follow according to the quran and sunnah. There is no bosnian,turkish or arab version of islam.
Much love from Turkey
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@@atifzejnic3386 what about different sects of Islam? Like Shia, Sunni, Ahmadiya
@@BlarfMacomblee Ahmadiya isn't a sect and Islamically sects aren't allowed in Islam to my knowledge
You need to create a video about Montenegrins as well. They successfully repelled the Ottoman Empire for centuries, and were an independent oasis in mostly conquered Balkans. Very fierce warriors, often living high in the mountains somehow they managed to defeat the Ottomans. Theres a lot of writings in the Turkish archives that are open to the public where the Ottoman generals speak about Montenegrins, Bosnians, and Serbs as the most fierce warriors they have ever encountered.
Yes. Also please try to explain why Mo tenegrins had serbian symbol on then national hat for centuries and why all they rullers speak about Montenegrins and themselvs as Serbs.
@@aleksandarjevremovic1028 Factsss
Montenegrins fierce warriors ?
They couldn’t even take Dubrovnik and steal all the video recorders.
Montenegro is a made up country.
@@vojvoda-draza
It was invented so that Milo Djukanovic could enrich himself.
Love and respect to our Bosnian brothers & sisters from Albanian
As a Bosniak, Much love to the Serbian women and girls out there.(❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️)✌️✌️
@@haristhebosniaklion8584👌
I’m very proud of my muslim faith! I’m Bosnian and muslim doesn’t matter my mother Christian and my father agnostic, I’m also open minded man and love ❤️ all people who are love humanity! Islam is not politics Islam is masterpiece of Religion because as per Islam everybody of Messiah from Adam/Adem a.s to Isa/Jesus as. and Muhamad a.s. are muslim because word muslim means man who believe in one God!
Being Muslim isn't to be proud but to be grateful than Allah made you Muslim.
@@mandmsmapper8400 Maybe you are not but I’m proud!
@@mandmsmapper8400 damn now!!! God MADE you a Muslim??!! Wtf man!
Allah is just another name for God so its the same old thing. What matters are customs and that is a crazy people topic. You can have people of the same religion killing each other over basically nonsense. Just can't let ethno businessmen dictate things.
@@ernie4125 Islam does not teach to kill each other for no reason.
Very accurate from a global point of view, but its a long story about bosnian church as some professors call they "Frist protestants in Europe". Bosnian church has stay againt the High taxes that church east and west had, also they belive that church has to be poor, because of that they built mainly small churchs of wood, and so on... Many interesting things!
Man i think in is not because of the church. Many muslims were slayed or forcebly converted to cristianity after fall of the Ottomans and rise of the independent Cristan states. And in that time muslims in Bosnia were saved by AH with their tolerance.
If they were the first protestants, id say their fate also says something about protestantism
Muslim propaganda. You were traitors, not a protestant church.
@@herbertherbertic6223 being a traitor to the false doctrine is a good thing
@@nosmokejazwinski6297 I agree. Thank God Christianity is the correct doctrine.
Good, unbiased video
I looking Bosnian people is so nice Adeel from Barcelona ☺️😘
Great video it is perfect
Nice to hear people didn't forgot Bosnia & Herzegovina
Keep up good work :)
Care ime zlatni ljiljan i ta tvoja zastava na profilu ne idu zajedno, ali nikako..
@@harpaharpa8393 jer je Josip broz tito bio bosanac i kada je bila revolucija u jugoslaviji on se borio na strani bosne
@@JELLYEzoX Josip Broz Tito Nije bio Bosanac nego Hrvat.. Josip Broz Tito je takodje komunistički zločinac koji je naredio mnoga ubistva Bošnjaka.. Kažeš da si sin zlatnog ljijljana a nosiš tu zastavu Jugoslavije sa kojom su srbi napadali našu Bosnu 1991 i ubijali naš narod, djecu i naše vojnike Armije RBiH.. Vjerojatno si još mlad i ne znaš neke stvari, možda se pališ na komunizam. Ali to je brate neprijateljska zastava, ako si stvarno sin zlatnog ljiljana i ako si pravi Bošnjak skloni je. To ti je moj savjet kao mladjem bratu
Bolje?
@@JELLYEzoX E tako je već bolje, naša državna zastava. svaka čast brate
Im proud to be a son of a soldier!⚜️🇧🇦
Jedna si jedina⚜️
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis
Do more videos of Balkan states, from 600's onwards. thanks
Hvala lepa iz Gradac Štajerska
As salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
Can you make a video of how the countries Armenia, Georgia and Ethiopia became Christian?
I find it interesting that these countries were the first to fully embrace christianity.
Im pretty sure they never became muslim so they stayed christian
@@arox6166 u searched it first hand didn't u? lol. I'm from Ethiopia and Ethiopia is a medium size country containing many other religions and ethnic groups; Christianity was a state religion until the monarchy was overthrown so, I wouldn't say we are a Christian nation/ i would just say we or the country is very religious as a whole (not me personally).
Ethiopia was Jewish before Christianity but then they embraced Jesus as the Messiah
U miss the whole point Bosnia wasn’t orthodox or catholic Christian they had their own belief it’s called bogumili he didn’t mentioned this in the video nothing to do with Christianity
AROX yes we are Muslims and Christians never existed in our lands we where BOGUMILI GOOGLE IT WECWERENT CATHOLICNOR ORTHODOX 🙂
May Allah protect my brothers and sisters from Bosnia, they are patient and hardworking people, greetings from Africa, Somalia 🇸🇴 ❤ 🇧🇦
May love and peace spread to every persons heart and soul in every corner of the world!!!
Love and respect to our Brave and kind hearted Bosnian brothers.May Allah keep you healthy,wealthy,happy!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Great vid! I could not help but notice how you used the picture of the Church of Theth, which is situated in Albania, at 8:13. It is delightfully amusing. 😀
I hate how this bish didn't include Kosova in the global map 😭
@@sm3675 Yeah man, that really sucks 😞
Is this guy ever going to make a video on how Albania became Muslim? I’m curious
@@infuriousgamer1505 I certainly hope so. It's a reslly interesting history.
Good job
✌️&❤️ from Romania! You people are a nation of survivors, just like us...🫶
As a Bosniak, Much love to the Serbian women and girls out there.(❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️)✌️✌️
@@haristhebosniaklion8584 ????
Islam is better then provocation
Love bosnia from Malaysia
In fact Sufism helped Ottomans a lot to easly approach to "heretic" Christian groups across Balkans. Theologically Bosnian church shared more common practices with Muslims than with Christians (rejecting trinity, mass, clergy, idolatry, iconography, praying 5 times a day outside, fasting for 40 days etc.). It has deep roots and its highly influenced by Ostrogothic Arianism, Gnosticism and even islamic mysticism (sufism), because there are few muslim names found inscribed on Stećak tombstones like Ahmat and Husan(Hasan) from 12-13 century, way before official Ottoman conquest.
I was about to state this too, similarities were there to make it even easier to convert.
great info mate
It made it easier to convert sure but I would argue the most important factor was existential one. If you became a Muslim you wouldn't need to pay some taxes, you were allowed to carry a weapon, you were allowed to own land and servants, you could travel. So it wasn't because the religions are similar because to be frank all religions rip-off bits a pieces of earlier ones, but because you could have an easier life and upward mobility. The more clerical you became the easier you could feed yourself and your family. So when confronted with hard life or possibly death, people just chose the line of least resistance and converted. It was hard sure from the sociological standpoint, but securing a existence for yourself and your family is way more important than your spiritual beliefs are.
@@fooooooooooooooo I agree that some individuals depending on their social rank benefitted differently from conversion, but there are many misconceptions and "Muslim conversion benefits" are bit exaggerated, if we take into consideration that they are obliged to pay Zakat* tax and serve military, compared to Jizya tax** payers that were affording personal and property protection and be excluded from military service. Only poor Dhimmis (Christians and Jews) incapable of paying Jizya tax were obligated to serve military with Muslims.
* "Zakat" tax - flexible annual tax of 2.5%, applied to all muslim subjects who exceed minimum amount of wealth possession (3 ounces of gold / cca. 85grams). To be clear, wealth property subjected to Zakat tax amongst money savings are trading goods, agricultural land, agricultural goods, precious metals, minerals, and livestock at a rate varying between 2.5% and 20%, depending on the type. Tax is redistributed among the poorest and most vulnerable members of society.
**"Jizya" tax - fixed non-muslim annual tax subjected for Dhimmi population (Christians and Jews) in three categories (with recorded historical examples):
- Lower class - 1 denarius (4.235g gold)
- Middle class - 2 denarius (8.75g gold)
- Higher class - 4 denarius (16.5g gold)
- Extremely rich (bankers) - 48 denarius (208g gold) - highest recorded
Poor ones incapable of paying Jizya were obligated to serve military with muslims.
Also, Dhimmis (Christians and Jews) were allowed to travel, in fact there were many traders amongst them.
Bosnia holds a special place in my heart.
hha ISIS land
Lol pressed dude cry :)
God bless Bosnia ✌️
And God bless you
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As a Bosniak I find this video very educational,thanks for making it. ⚜
Allah bless❤️
So according to this video your ancestors converted from Christianity to Islam, is it correct? Your grandfathers were Christians?
@@bladeoftheimmortal9117 Yes, when the ottomans came many Serb and Croat converted to Islam to seek benefit.
My Serb friends says they are traitors
Bosnia always Muslim & M'sia always help Muslim as Unity of Ummah.
#Ummah
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@@xxthatpookieeditsxx Not Serbs and Croats, but Bosnians.