This episode gives my concluding thoughts on the HO Scale Glover Road Diorama Shelf Layout. I share my thoughts and ideas concerning the new pending design.
Love the river barge concept. Am planning such a scene on my own near-future layout as there is so much visual and operational interest in a justifiably small space. Especially a low or half tide scene in the mouth of a river. I’m thinking seriously of doing part of my layout to Freemo modular standards as there is a strong Freemo American Modellers group here in New Zealand. I look forward to learning clever techniques from your videos - if you choose that future of course!
The Barge Slip is tempting. The only problem is making it work in the allotted space. The foot-print I have is rather restrictive once things get scaled out, even when compressed. It might hurt it more than I expect. I wouldn't be able to model the barge (no room). Then the curve for the lead would be ridiculous looking. It has to work visually other wise no-go. Prototype modelling is a whole new ball game when it comes to space as you well know. I'll build out the frames and try some dry runs first.
@@boomerdiorama - electronics is my forte - so thinking about adding realism with load cells under the barge, and simulating a dangerous list if the barge is not loaded or unloaded correctly. Sounds cheesy when described, but I believe I can keep it ‘realism focussed’ - like the dimension sound has added to the hobby.
@@boomerdiorama Would it help to reverse the direction? If you made the barge removable (after all the prototype is removable!) and put it outside the shadow box in front of the window? Being removable you could move it away from the window when not operating, and it could double as a removable fiddle yard. It would require a curved lead to the barge, but might give you a few more feet to play with.
I’m definitely in favor of the barge concept. Thank you for taking us on this journey. This layout has been an inspiration for me, and I’m glad you documented it for all of us to enjoy.
I am a new subscriber to your channel and have not viewed many of your past videos so forgive me if I may have missed key tenants associated with your views and interests in modeling. After listening to this post (and a few other posts) and in viewing Glover Road it is clear to me that you are an exceptional modeler with a keen eye for texture, color, weathering, perspectives and many other forms of artistic creativity. You mention that we are all on this continual journey as we learn, expand our perspectives and adapt to new interests. I say, archive Glover Road and start anew. Apply your "toolkit" to your next, new creation and surprise us, after all, we will be watching!
Thank You Jeff. You share my same sentiments - I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Thanks for the Glover Road layout. A great series of tutorials with occasional Western Canadian humour in between to make us all laugh. In terms of what to do next I always say follow your head, heart and gut. If all three say the same thing then that’s option you choose. No matter what you do, I look forward to more learnings. Cheers….
Glad you enjoyed it! Good points as well. I am sorting through the head, gut, and heart of things right now. Things will come together. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
As a artist you have to ( in the end ) go with what inspires you not by what we say. That being said, I'll throw in my 2cents. You seem to need to scratch build , to express the talent in you , go with that. Then there's this, God gave you that talent ask Him what He would like you to do. Weather you know it or not your doing His work already by teaching us to slow down , don't over plan , don't stress yourself. So there you go. Be kind, be nice be happy. It's helped me hearing you say these things. Be true to who you are , enjoy!
A beautiful build with so many opportunities for photography in a limited space! What I've liked about this project is how common the elements are for many layouts. For that reason, unlike many of comments, I'd prefer seeing you build the engine terminal. The barge terminal would be unique and interesting, but the theme is very specific to limited geographic areas and not something many modelers will actually build. Engine shops exist in every part of the country and a thing common on most railroads. Of course, it's not not what appeals to any of us, but what most inspires and motivates you.
I couldn't have wrote that any better myself Gerry. I thought about the engine shed. I have hoards of research on the particular subject, therefore it is not out of the question for an additional module down the road because it is central to the theme of SRY Rail Link in which I model. Never-the-less, phase two will be the "Barge Slip" (River Drive). Thank You for sharing your thoughts and opinions as well because at the end of the day, it is more about other features as well, not just the Barge Slip. I will describe my thoughts about it very soon. Stay tuned! Cheers ~ Boomer.
Greg, I'm in total agreement with you on the Masterpiece of the Glover Road, and I'll be sittin in the audience right with the rest of us excited also to experience the 101's and build process of the new Diorama . . .
If you're feeling generous or just need space and decide you want to give Glover Road a new home, I know a guy who really likes your work and would take good care of the module. LOL! Hate to see it go but I'm excited to see where you go with something new. Love the creeping locomotive. Good video. Stay well. -Wil 👍
Great timing for the new layout....I've just lost my former train room, but now have a nice space with a 14x9x24" L shaped shelf layout. I used 3 hardwood door blanks for $1 each at builders surplus and a set of brackets, all in about $20 so far. But it's empty and I'm just waiting for inspiration to hit. So I am grateful to see your layout and excited for what the future holds. God Bless!
All good things must come to an end at some point, but that means a nice fresh beginning into something greater! Looking forward to the next layout build/expansion…I’m really digging the idea of the barge scene; that would be so cool! Cheers Boomer!
You are correct. The Barge Slip might be too ambitious (even though I would love to do it), for the limited space allotted for it. It would be perfect for N Scale though. In HO I would have to sacrifice too much . . . maybe? I'll sleep on it for a few days. Thank You for the encouragement though. Cheers.
cant wait to see your next build!!!! thank you for all the knowledge you have shared on building the glover road im learning so much from your videos.... again thanks for what you are doing
I really like the blank “throwup” that’s not outlined yet on the structure that funnels stuff Into trucks... it really looks like that one kid who decided to tag on something and then got chased from the cops only halfway through. 😎
Both are great concepts to build.. the barge would present new challenges for sure... and the engine shops would give you a great excuse to have a lot of locomotives on the layout at the same time since it's expected to see that, if you're into collecting/mod'ing them and having them on display. Looking forward to seeing what avenue you go down. On a related note, tonight I disassembled the rolling benchwork for my older, "finished" HO layout where I test all my locos, and shelved the layout out of the way. I kept running trains instead of working on the new layout, so now I have a new focus to get the new one operational to run trains again lol! I was thinking a lot about what you were talking about with burn out, and this step takes me a little further away from it in a sense, and frees up my mind from 2 layouts and onto only one. Cheers
Thank You Joey. I would love to build the Barge Slip. Only problem is space to do it justice. Prototypically, ten feet would only cover the Slip and a small part of the approach in HO Scale. I can handle it but it is too ambitious for the limited footprint allotted. It's fun to plan it though. I have a few good options on the back burner. Cheers.
Great job from start to finish. Ive started 2 layouts before but they always came crashing down for one reason or another. After seeing what you've accomplished, I'm going to try a shelf layout. I hope we see more from you in the future. Good luck.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Always inspired by your work. Barges are fascinating. I’ve always been intrigued by the operation that CP had on a lake somewhere in BC. It’s abandoned now, but the scenery is awesome. Whatever you decide, I’ll be watching! Stay safe!
That CP Barge Scene you speak of I know well. It's in the Kootenays region in B.C. on Slocan Lake. I was up there some years ago. Some of the piles are still there. Not sure if I have the space for the "Annacis Island" SRY Barge Slip though. It would be a great subject for N Scale though!
Very Interesting concept with the Barge slip concept. Hope you do it as I am contemplating a Freelance Barge operation for my small shelf layout. Building the Seaspan Car Ferry would be a nice challenge. As you say, that long warehouse would make a great backdrop and perhaps be rail served if you back dated your ERA a bit.
@@boomerdiorama Also appears you drink as much coffee as I do. Which is a lot, lol. I remember when my wife and I honeymooned in BC back in '01, coffee was a BIG deal to the Canadians. What an amazing experience Canada was for us. We'll never forget it ☕
Than You for your input! It's one of several ideas. The only problem is space and compression. It's doable though if I apply my own artistic license. ~ Boomer.
I first watched this about a year ago and all the reasons for building this made sense and all the reasons for abandoning it didn’t. Now, being at roughly the same point in my build, I understand completely. New canvas or go back and redo everything I’ve learned to do better isn’t a tough decision.
I think the barge scene would be fantastic. And you said you hoped your videos are inspirational to us, well I certainly find they are. A month ago I moved into a new apartment and now I have space for a small shelf layout. I've just finished laying much of the track and wiring this weekend. Your videos on scratchbuilding have given me the push to make all, or as many as possible, of the buildings myself so that they really fit the scene well. I'll do a video on my progress in a few weeks possibly.
Well I know what I would do. However? There is two important things you should consider. I'm in N scale. And it's not about me. It's about you. Can't wait to see what you decide. Gives me another year of watching and learning from you when you do. Come out swinging and show us what you got Sensei.
I think the Barge Slip is perfect for N Scale. It's a real stretch in HO with the limited footprint I have. It has to make sense visually with a composition that flows equally well. Cheers.
Not too long ago, I was considering St Ignace, Michigan for a layout focusing on the Chief Wawatam car ferry and Soo Line. But, like many layout ideas that have surfaced, I keep finding that if I never saw it operating in real life I have a hard time moving the idea forward. Running into the same problem with the current layout as it just doesn’t have enough prototype in the 10 ft switching track plan and now I’m stalled out not wanting to commit to ballasting it. Whichever route you go, I know we’ll all learn a thing or two!
There is always a nagging trade-off in this hobby as you describe. Having to settle with one (size) footprint can be difficult. Finding an appropriate prototype can be equally difficult. But then there is always selective compression to help make it plausible. Cheers ~ Boomer. Here is a great example: th-cam.com/video/BHCX-PRVeXE/w-d-xo.html
You've lots of great ideas to keep you moving forward, difficult to narrow down to the point where construction begins. How about retain the Glover road module, add a turnout on the right hand end, curve around in front of the window with a narrow shelf/bridge and place the new layout along the opposite wall. Adding to the current operations is probably how I would approach moving forward. Of course I don't know what's on the walls we never see. Do able?
Thank You Ted. Great suggestion! I could do this. I am leaning towards a new build though. I could tack on the left side (on the far wall) down the road though. Cheers ~ Boomer
I see. Not knowing the exact layout of your room restricts me in considering all the options. Regardless, I'm certain that what ever you decide it will entertain you and your audience. Looking forward to the future build and the inspiration you project. Your videos are interesting and informative, encouraging myself and others to view the hobby in ways that we've not considered in the past. Thankyou!!
I guess all things come to an end or at least go into storage. It's been a great ride and I've enjoyed every minute of it but I hear you, I have an 8 ft by 2 ft shelf I'm working on and I have been watching for the last year I almost don't know where to start even though all the track is here a member of the buildings kits are here some of the locomotives are here I've yet to put a piece of track down cuz I'm still in that wondering and planning stage, good luck Boomer.
Boomer, loving the barge idea, some great/challenging modelling techniques to show. A large water pour? Oooh!. Glover Rd Diorama rocks, but the new idea looks promising. You know me, I'm inventive, but the modelling side needs plenty practice. Your uploads very much help me with that. All the best. Brian @ The Angels.
I could visualize putting the bridge / tunnel at the far right side and everything to the left of it would be a whole new design of what can't be seen beyond the darkness now. Perhaps leaving the buildings behind and entering a pastoral scene with some older country buildings. Just a thought over morning coffee.
I do love the country scene idea as well Karl. I am with you on that one for sure. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Excited to see what you’ll come up with. I’ll be along for the ride! On a side note, I just picked up an Atlas Master GP40-2 with a Loksound decoder and it’s smooth as butter and sounds great!
Glover Road is such a fantastic layout. End to end it is a real work of modeling art. I'm typically not interested in seaports, river ports, or barges, but the operation does have the potential to be interesting. I guess I have a problem with a 2-3 track, 6 cars per track barge. That thing will be large. Then you have the lead-in track with turnouts to consider. I am sure you have thought about all of this and have a better vision than what I am thinking. I guess I'd need to see it on paper (or computer screen) to see how it would look and operate. That said, I think this would be more interesting than an engine facility type layout. Is there a third option? No matter what direction you go, you will have my complete and undivided attention. Stay safe. Cheers - Larry.
Good analysis Larry. With the Barge Slip scene I would only capture the "spirit" of the prototype in a heavily compressed footprint. Adherence to the prototype goes out the window once artistic license is let loose. It would only resemble the prototype in freelance form much in the same way as Glover Road. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Being overly sentimental I thought Oh, no!, but within moments realised new lessons are on the horizon. So now it is: Oh, yes! Question now is: What are your primary goals? I am looking forward to you taking us through the thought processes. And then focusing on those goals through the building process. Respectfully, Rafael.
My primary goals are to frame up a new and larger canvas to create in the same manner as Glover Road. I am only interested in capturing the "spirit" of the particular railroad in the emotional theater of my mind. It is this type of method and practice I thrive in. I am undisciplined this way when it comes to the genre and I love it so. Cheers my friend! - Boomer.
Thank You. I'll build the bench work first and see what I can squeeze in. I'll be taking advantage of all the artistic license and freelance practice I can despite the prototype example. One has to in the smaller footprint. Cheers.
Thank you very much for the sub! Glover Road began just over a year ago. The channel began around it a year ago as well. It sort of evolved within the community, into what it is, based on my life experiences and the railroad. Even though it had a whimsical feel to it, it came out better than I first thought. Cheers - Boomer
Barge vs engine shop.... In addition to space and layout considerations, the barge layout would focus on cars and operations more than locomotives, while the engine shop would focus on locomotives with trains passing by. Either would be cool, and there's no wrong choice: whichever one you choose, once it's done you can always do the other as your next project!
You summed it up exactly. A tough decision. A compressed Barge Slip scene (as I see it) would be more dramatic "artistically" in my experience. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
That sounds nice!. The River Road (My New Layout) is a little larger than this @ 10 ft. by 11ft. That is huge for me. More than enough railroad to model. Cheers.
I will surely miss the Glover Road and while I love diesel shops and seeing how you upgrade and reviews your locomotives building the barge scene would show us an entirely different set of challenges with the water and shoreline.
Thank You for commenting Jeff. I love the water front as well. I grew up close to the water front. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Do whatever will make you happy, in the end I find that it's a lot easier to avoid burnout if you are really enjoying what you are doing and just do it at your own pace.
You are exactly right David. You must love the subject if you want to overcome the inevitable obstacles. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
I like this layout as it is very imaginative, it can also be incorporated into future modular layouts, I have find that deconstruction of a build or a track spur can add to the excitement of this and other layouts. 9' by 12' tough shed would be Ideal, my garage is about that dimension [my garage is 10' by 15']. I model in On30 and since I am living in a room devote to music and junk, I am think mit is time to take the ;pnf wall and put is a modular layout as time passes.......... Remember your layout is your therapy!
Dear Master Modeler, Sir! In my opinion you really should try to get a display room, ideally big enough to add your next project as an addition to this gem. I't too nice to not being operated from time to time. It's finished now so stack up your art!
If you build something like the barge slip, do you think you'll use the Alex Fraser as a end view block, as you did with the viaduct here? I look forward to seeing the next steps in your modelling! I'll echo others here and thank you for bringing us along on the journey. Really inspirational.
That's a great idea. I suppose one could if they used "hyper" compression. It might be more plausible in N Scale though. But hey . . . why not? Cheers ~ Boomer.
That is a great idea. Ian Rice was a proponent of that concept. I used to love reading his books on model railroad design. What a great artist as well! Cheers ~ Boomer.
The inspiration I got from this series is that if I want to build a large layout I can do it 8 or 10 feet at a time, highly detail it and not get burned out in the process. Eventually it would all come together but it might take more time.
Yes fore sure. The Glover Road Diorama was also designed with an easy tear-down and set-up in mind. It's not going away. Just to bed for awhile . . . lol. Furthermore, down the road, I can link it up anyway. Cheers.
You have done a fantastic job on the module. As a builder type, would you really get much value from the module if you stored it? It seems like you might not look at it much since you will be focused on your next project. Maybe raise some cash and give others enjoyment by selling it? Both new concepts sound interesting. The barge seems like too much compression in the space available. Loco shop would seem to fit better. Maybe there is a third viable option you haven't considered yet (i.e. centered around one medium or large industry).
You raise good points Michael. I would rather not sell the Glover Road project. It packs up and moves nicely. It's a keeper. I designed it "wild" with this in mind. It's like a mini movie set that tears down and sets up well. The next one won't be as friendly this way. I agree, the Barge Slip would require far too much compression in HO scale for the allotted space. I am leaning quite strongly in the direction of the locomotive shops with the associated yard lead for expansion onto the next wing (module), which I will include as well in the initial first phase. Thank You again for your advice. It is sound and I appreciate it. Cheers ~ Boomer.
I won't know what channel I'm watching if there isn't a Dairy Queen and a pink factory building. 🤔 Can you do 24" deep? I can see the possibilities there in your idea. And that'd give you a reason to pull the upper out 26" to get that front lighting you wanted. If you want to curve around across the windows,why not? You can always create raisable backdrop sections to keep the light & view when you're not running. So many opportunities. What's the hold up?!🙂
Lol. I can still display the building on a regular shelf as a memoir if I want, now that I think about it. They do stand alone as well. Yes . . . I can come out 24" and cross the window. I might go with the engine facility and the yard lead I think . . .
I model a car float operation, so naturally I would like to see how you would approach it. Car floats present some challenges both in modelling and operations. As others have said, I hate the idea of Glover Road disappearing, but it's your call.
I might go for the SRY Engine and Shops facility. This way I can add-on part of the class yard later in the planning. The Glover Road piece is special for sure but I can't milk it forever. Cheers and thanks for the input.
It appears like you have made up your mind. Could Glover Rd not sit above the new shadow box? It would provide both inspiration and a welcome distraction. I looked on google earth street view at the crossing where the real Silo sits. You certainly captured the 'mood' of the locality. As always great work. Look forward to watching and listening to your deliberations and progress.
Thank You Gary. The Glover Road Diorama was also designed with an easy tear-down (wild) and set-up in mind. It's not going away. Just to bed for awhile . . . lol.
Do you have enough room to put Glover Road above the valance, maybe on will brackets? Hate to see it stuffed away somewhere after all of the effort you've put into it. Anyway to work the barge scene into Glover Road as an extension?
Maybe. The above has to be for storage. No space. The Barge Slip might be a stretch as well. Easy to imagineer it in, but I don't think the restrictive footprint will do it justice. I may try anyway . . . Cheers.
Thank You Jim. I do lean towards the Barge Slip Scene. I use the prototype for inspiration. Then throw it out in the name of artistic license (compression) when I compress and compose the scene.
Rail barge operations are one of the most interesting concepts in model railroading. I had modeled the Seattle & North Coast using the rail barge as the main visual interest. The barge I kitbashed would hold eleven 50’ cars so acted as my staging yard. So I look forward to your professional approach.
Sad to see glover rd go but excited for the new layout to come. By the way are you going to be displaying your 5 foot bridge diorama on a wall as well or will it be fully portable.
Is there a website that shows your track plan by any chance it would be neat to see cuz I'm impressed on how you fit everything in such a small space but made it look so amazing
If and when my health improves, my future lndustrail layout theme is I have a brewery, inbound grains, glass, cardboard, small steel fabrication shop, a railroad freight car repair facility, a four to five door warehouse for miscellaneous loads, then two house tracks set up with various types of equiipment to unload customer's cars, then we'll deliver their materials to their work site. I have an area where they will be loading hoppers full of salt and tank cars full of magnesium chloride for dust control (summer) and ice removal in the (winter) season. So I've been taking mental, physical notes, and pgotographs on how the alkali affects the bottoms of buildings and utility poles, mine will be alot lighter, almost bleached, then my ground cover will start with dried out alkaline mud glued down with real magnesium chloride, ballast will be loose and not a priority using limestone fines the same way that you had done on your layout. Driving surfaces will be a mixture of used asphalt and more limestone fines. You won't see any personal vehicles because they leave them outside of the gates. Most workers will be in carpools or a bus. That's what I invision it to be.
Boomer, I've bought four four axle locomomotives, all GE locomomotives, you'd think atleast one of the four will be running B20-9C, ( a B23-7 with a 2,000 hp CAT engine). B23-7, Super 7 23B and a U18B. The first three will be in their predecessor's owner, the 801 will be painted in haze grey, with 8 - 0 - 1 large enough to start on the top of it's hood going down to the walkway like the ones seen on USN equiipment. The B23-7 is a former NS, it will have various shades of black on the unit, the Super 7 will be painted up in Weyerheuaser yellow and black. I'm planning having a 9 foot 3.5% grade before it levels off to a run around track serving the brewery and the metal fabrication shop. A nearby shortline has a B36-7 in it's roster along with two rebuilt GP9s.
I used to sell my work. Not really anymore though. But everything is for sale for the right price . . . lol. Problem is, is I couldn't afford to buy it myself . . . lol. It might be a good add-on later down the road though. Cheers ~ Boomer.
I know this probably isn't what you want to do, but as a partial solution to the compression issue, why not go with N scale? Same space, yet more room for "stuff"? BTW, you've done a great job with this layout. You should be proud!
Thank You Mike. I am in way to deep with my HO Scale collection to switch now. How would I find replacements for all my models in N Scale? - that is a whole new pursuit I do not want. I can compress any subject to my hearts content artistically in the same manner as Glover Road. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
@@boomerdiorama I see your point.The last time I "messed with trains" I was just a kid, and I'll be 60 later this year. I love admiring the work people put into the hobby, but often don't take into account the time and effort it takes to do things right.
No. I was many years ago. HO is my medium. It would be fool-hardy economically for me to change scales now. It's taken me years to acquire the Canadian equipment, and "custom" locomotives I desire and have on the work bench already. Furthermore, as cool as I think N Scale is, I can't see it anymore. I would loose all my modelling liberty to frustration. Cheers.
I feel for you bro! I have built many N scale layouts in my small space of 8'x8' "L" shaped area and ran them for the last 15 years. I want to change to HO scale however. I model 1920s steam, so in N scale my options are limited for good locomotives. I run trains for operations and that is why I went to N scale in the first place. I know I can do operations in HO in my small area too. I saw a video of few months ago given by Bill Neale on one of the NMRA regional websites where he showed a track plan with inter city switching; I might have to use that as a starting point for a design of an HO scale layout in limited space. Not to mention that maintenance would be a lot easier in HO scale as you already know!@@boomerdiorama
@@user-nx8tk1pp5o HO is the ultimate scale in my opinion and experience. The problem with N is switching. The locomotives are too light for good conductivity. The track profile is too high and the maintenance can be burdensome. Not to mention, I can't see it anymore. Furthermore, HO scale has the best support of any scale bar none. Cheers.
Thank You James. I'll be scooping up more than three more feet for sure. The potentially larger footprint offers multiple possibilities. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Boomer, can you stack your dioramas one on top of the other? Maybe mount them both on a vertical track with a pulley system to move them up and down the wall. If you spaced it right you might be able to stack three!
Love the river barge concept. Am planning such a scene on my own near-future layout as there is so much visual and operational interest in a justifiably small space. Especially a low or half tide scene in the mouth of a river. I’m thinking seriously of doing part of my layout to Freemo modular standards as there is a strong Freemo American Modellers group here in New Zealand. I look forward to learning clever techniques from your videos - if you choose that future of course!
The Barge Slip is tempting. The only problem is making it work in the allotted space. The foot-print I have is rather restrictive once things get scaled out, even when compressed. It might hurt it more than I expect. I wouldn't be able to model the barge (no room). Then the curve for the lead would be ridiculous looking. It has to work visually other wise no-go. Prototype modelling is a whole new ball game when it comes to space as you well know. I'll build out the frames and try some dry runs first.
@@boomerdiorama - electronics is my forte - so thinking about adding realism with load cells under the barge, and simulating a dangerous list if the barge is not loaded or unloaded correctly. Sounds cheesy when described, but I believe I can keep it ‘realism focussed’ - like the dimension sound has added to the hobby.
@@chrisdraper5067 That sounds cool. Electronics are not my strength for sure. I can do the basics though.
@@boomerdiorama you can always model it as two modules. Building the world one diorama at a time.
@@boomerdiorama Would it help to reverse the direction? If you made the barge removable (after all the prototype is removable!) and put it outside the shadow box in front of the window? Being removable you could move it away from the window when not operating, and it could double as a removable fiddle yard. It would require a curved lead to the barge, but might give you a few more feet to play with.
I’m definitely in favor of the barge concept. Thank you for taking us on this journey. This layout has been an inspiration for me, and I’m glad you documented it for all of us to enjoy.
Thank You! I'm in favor of the Barge "Slip" concept as well Cheers ~ Boomer.
I am a new subscriber to your channel and have not viewed many of your past videos so forgive me if I may have missed key tenants associated with your views and interests in modeling. After listening to this post (and a few other posts) and in viewing Glover Road it is clear to me that you are an exceptional modeler with a keen eye for texture, color, weathering, perspectives and many other forms of artistic creativity. You mention that we are all on this continual journey as we learn, expand our perspectives and adapt to new interests. I say, archive Glover Road and start anew. Apply your "toolkit" to your next, new creation and surprise us, after all, we will be watching!
Thank You Jeff. You share my same sentiments - I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Thanks for the Glover Road layout. A great series of tutorials with occasional Western Canadian humour in between to make us all laugh. In terms of what to do next I always say follow your head, heart and gut. If all three say the same thing then that’s option you choose. No matter what you do, I look forward to more learnings. Cheers….
Glad you enjoyed it! Good points as well. I am sorting through the head, gut, and heart of things right now. Things will come together. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
It's a wonderful diorama. Love those crawling locomotives. Have dug up all your previous videos.
Many thanks!
There's that creeping engine again! What a great effect!
Thank You Sam. Cheers.
As a artist you have to ( in the end ) go with what inspires you not by what we say. That being said, I'll throw in my 2cents. You seem to need to scratch build , to express the talent in you , go with that. Then there's this, God gave you that talent ask Him what He would like you to do. Weather you know it or not your doing His work already by teaching us to slow down , don't over plan , don't stress yourself.
So there you go. Be kind, be nice be happy. It's helped me hearing you say these things. Be true to who you are , enjoy!
Thank You Bob! That is great wisdom my friend. I certainly will consult the ultimate creator. Bless You. Cheers ~ Boomer.
A beautiful build with so many opportunities for photography in a limited space! What I've liked about this project is how common the elements are for many layouts. For that reason, unlike many of comments, I'd prefer seeing you build the engine terminal. The barge terminal would be unique and interesting, but the theme is very specific to limited geographic areas and not something many modelers will actually build. Engine shops exist in every part of the country and a thing common on most railroads. Of course, it's not not what appeals to any of us, but what most inspires and motivates you.
I couldn't have wrote that any better myself Gerry. I thought about the engine shed. I have hoards of research on the particular subject, therefore it is not out of the question for an additional module down the road because it is central to the theme of SRY Rail Link in which I model. Never-the-less, phase two will be the "Barge Slip" (River Drive). Thank You for sharing your thoughts and opinions as well because at the end of the day, it is more about other features as well, not just the Barge Slip. I will describe my thoughts about it very soon. Stay tuned! Cheers ~ Boomer.
Glover Road is a masterpiece. I’m excited to see what else you make.
Thank You Greg! Glover Road is special for sure. It impressed me, as well, the way it turned out. I need a new challenge. Cheers.
Greg, I'm in total agreement with you on the Masterpiece of the Glover Road, and I'll be sittin in the audience right with the rest of us excited also to experience the 101's and build process of the new Diorama . . .
If you're feeling generous or just need space and decide you want to give Glover Road a new home, I know a guy who really likes your work and would take good care of the module. LOL! Hate to see it go but I'm excited to see where you go with something new. Love the creeping locomotive. Good video. Stay well. -Wil 👍
Pretty to tough to let go completely. At least right this moment anyway . . . lol. Cheers William ~ Boomer.
Great video and such a smooth running loco at 1 step. Looking forward to future ambitions!
ESU Loksound Decoders will make almost any locomotive run like silk. Cheers.
Great timing for the new layout....I've just lost my former train room, but now have a nice space with a 14x9x24" L shaped shelf layout. I used 3 hardwood door blanks for $1 each at builders surplus and a set of brackets, all in about $20 so far. But it's empty and I'm just waiting for inspiration to hit. So I am grateful to see your layout and excited for what the future holds. God Bless!
Sounds great! Cheers.
Wow didn’t see this coming but am really excited to see your next build from the planning phase right through to completion
You and me both! I knew it was coming eventually. It feels finished and my roster has out grown it . . . lol. Cheers.
Like all artists its time for a new painting. No matter what you do it will be a joy to watch.
Thank You Dave. Yes, it's time for a new painting. Cheers.
Call me wacky but I love the trees and the phone poles -- they're just great!
Me too. I am trying to figure out where I might fit those poles in on River Road.
All good things must come to an end at some point, but that means a nice fresh beginning into something greater! Looking forward to the next layout build/expansion…I’m really digging the idea of the barge scene; that would be so cool! Cheers Boomer!
You are correct. The Barge Slip might be too ambitious (even though I would love to do it), for the limited space allotted for it. It would be perfect for N Scale though. In HO I would have to sacrifice too much . . . maybe? I'll sleep on it for a few days. Thank You for the encouragement though. Cheers.
cant wait to see your next build!!!! thank you for all the knowledge you have shared on building the glover road im learning so much from your videos.... again thanks for what you are doing
More to come! Cheers ~ Boomer.
I really like the blank “throwup” that’s not outlined yet on the structure that funnels stuff Into trucks... it really looks like that one kid who decided to tag on something and then got chased from the cops only halfway through. 😎
Lol . . . Thank You for sharing your thoughts. Cheers.
Both are great concepts to build.. the barge would present new challenges for sure... and the engine shops would give you a great excuse to have a lot of locomotives on the layout at the same time since it's expected to see that, if you're into collecting/mod'ing them and having them on display. Looking forward to seeing what avenue you go down.
On a related note, tonight I disassembled the rolling benchwork for my older, "finished" HO layout where I test all my locos, and shelved the layout out of the way. I kept running trains instead of working on the new layout, so now I have a new focus to get the new one operational to run trains again lol! I was thinking a lot about what you were talking about with burn out, and this step takes me a little further away from it in a sense, and frees up my mind from 2 layouts and onto only one.
Cheers
Thank You Joey. I would love to build the Barge Slip. Only problem is space to do it justice. Prototypically, ten feet would only cover the Slip and a small part of the approach in HO Scale. I can handle it but it is too ambitious for the limited footprint allotted. It's fun to plan it though. I have a few good options on the back burner. Cheers.
Barge slip sounds awesome Boomer. Either way, it will be exciting to see you develop a new diorama from scratch.
I'm chomping at the bit for a new build. Who knows, maybe Glover Road gets resurrected on the far end of the layout one day. Cheers ~ Boomer.
Great job from start to finish. Ive started 2 layouts before but they always came crashing down for one reason or another. After seeing what you've accomplished, I'm going to try a shelf layout. I hope we see more from you in the future. Good luck.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Always inspired by your work. Barges are fascinating. I’ve always been intrigued by the operation that CP had on a lake somewhere in BC. It’s abandoned now, but the scenery is awesome. Whatever you decide, I’ll be watching! Stay safe!
That CP Barge Scene you speak of I know well. It's in the Kootenays region in B.C. on Slocan Lake. I was up there some years ago. Some of the piles are still there. Not sure if I have the space for the "Annacis Island" SRY Barge Slip though. It would be a great subject for N Scale though!
Very Interesting concept with the Barge slip concept. Hope you do it as I am contemplating a Freelance Barge operation for my small shelf layout.
Building the Seaspan Car Ferry would be a nice challenge.
As you say, that long warehouse would make a great backdrop and perhaps be rail served if you back dated your ERA a bit.
Loads of options for sure Dan. Thanks for sharing as well! Cheers ~ Boomer.
We've all fallen in love with Glover Road, but no doubt whatever project you decide to take on next will be epic!
Yes, Glover Road is very special to me as well. Thank You!
@@boomerdiorama Also appears you drink as much coffee as I do. Which is a lot, lol. I remember when my wife and I honeymooned in BC back in '01, coffee was a BIG deal to the Canadians. What an amazing experience Canada was for us. We'll never forget it ☕
@@lynncreekrailroad9690 I do like my coffee for sure. I try and keep it to a few cups a day if I can. Most days I'm successful . . . lol.
My vote is for a car float/barge diorama. I’d really like to see that!
Than You for your input! It's one of several ideas. The only problem is space and compression. It's doable though if I apply my own artistic license. ~ Boomer.
I first watched this about a year ago and all the reasons for building this made sense and all the reasons for abandoning it didn’t. Now, being at roughly the same point in my build, I understand completely. New canvas or go back and redo everything I’ve learned to do better isn’t a tough decision.
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Man you got it down looking outstanding
Thank You. I learned a lot from building Glover Road. I plan to grow and learn more on the next one. Climb aboard, it should be fun. Cheers ~ Boomer.
I think the barge scene would be fantastic. And you said you hoped your videos are inspirational to us, well I certainly find they are. A month ago I moved into a new apartment and now I have space for a small shelf layout. I've just finished laying much of the track and wiring this weekend. Your videos on scratchbuilding have given me the push to make all, or as many as possible, of the buildings myself so that they really fit the scene well. I'll do a video on my progress in a few weeks possibly.
Well you certainly have the skills to pull it off. I came from a similar background as you in my youth. Cheers ~ Boomer.
Well I know what I would do. However? There is two important things you should consider. I'm in N scale. And it's not about me. It's about you. Can't wait to see what you decide. Gives me another year of watching and learning from you when you do. Come out swinging and show us what you got Sensei.
I think the Barge Slip is perfect for N Scale. It's a real stretch in HO with the limited footprint I have. It has to make sense visually with a composition that flows equally well. Cheers.
Not too long ago, I was considering St Ignace, Michigan for a layout focusing on the Chief Wawatam car ferry and Soo Line. But, like many layout ideas that have surfaced, I keep finding that if I never saw it operating in real life I have a hard time moving the idea forward. Running into the same problem with the current layout as it just doesn’t have enough prototype in the 10 ft switching track plan and now I’m stalled out not wanting to commit to ballasting it. Whichever route you go, I know we’ll all learn a thing or two!
There is always a nagging trade-off in this hobby as you describe. Having to settle with one (size) footprint can be difficult. Finding an appropriate prototype can be equally difficult. But then there is always selective compression to help make it plausible. Cheers ~ Boomer. Here is a great example: th-cam.com/video/BHCX-PRVeXE/w-d-xo.html
You've lots of great ideas to keep you moving forward, difficult to narrow down to the point where construction begins. How about retain the Glover road module, add a turnout on the right hand end, curve around in front of the window with a narrow shelf/bridge and place the new layout along the opposite wall. Adding to the current operations is probably how I would approach moving forward. Of course I don't know what's on the walls we never see. Do able?
Thank You Ted. Great suggestion! I could do this. I am leaning towards a new build though. I could tack on the left side (on the far wall) down the road though. Cheers ~ Boomer
I see. Not knowing the exact layout of your room restricts me in considering all the options. Regardless, I'm certain that what ever you decide it will entertain you and your audience. Looking forward to the future build and the inspiration you project. Your videos are interesting and informative, encouraging myself and others to view the hobby in ways that we've not considered in the past. Thankyou!!
@@tedkowalik2934 I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down."
I guess all things come to an end or at least go into storage. It's been a great ride and I've enjoyed every minute of it but I hear you, I have an 8 ft by 2 ft shelf I'm working on and I have been watching for the last year I almost don't know where to start even though all the track is here a member of the buildings kits are here some of the locomotives are here I've yet to put a piece of track down cuz I'm still in that wondering and planning stage, good luck Boomer.
Thank You Paul. You should enjoy the next build then. I have has an optional plan for a year now. Cheers.
Boomer, loving the barge idea, some great/challenging modelling techniques to show. A large water pour? Oooh!. Glover Rd Diorama rocks, but the new idea looks promising. You know me, I'm inventive, but the modelling side needs plenty practice. Your uploads very much help me with that. All the best. Brian @ The Angels.
Thank you. If I do a water feature there won't be a "water pour." I hate that method. Cheers mate ~ Boomer.
@@boomerdiorama aah, that's even better. I've seen gloss varnish used to great effect.
@@theangelsmodellingandrailways As an artist I would rather paint my friend. Cheers ~ Boomer.
I could visualize putting the bridge / tunnel at the far right side and everything to the left of it would be a whole new design of what can't be seen beyond the darkness now. Perhaps leaving the buildings behind and entering a pastoral scene with some older country buildings. Just a thought over morning coffee.
I do love the country scene idea as well Karl. I am with you on that one for sure. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Excited to see what you’ll come up with. I’ll be along for the ride!
On a side note, I just picked up an Atlas Master GP40-2 with a Loksound decoder and it’s smooth as butter and sounds great!
Those are fantastic locomotives. Great start for a shelf layout as well. Cheers ~ Boomer.
Glover Road is such a fantastic layout. End to end it is a real work of modeling art. I'm typically not interested in seaports, river ports, or barges, but the operation does have the potential to be interesting. I guess I have a problem with a 2-3 track, 6 cars per track barge. That thing will be large. Then you have the lead-in track with turnouts to consider. I am sure you have thought about all of this and have a better vision than what I am thinking. I guess I'd need to see it on paper (or computer screen) to see how it would look and operate. That said, I think this would be more interesting than an engine facility type layout. Is there a third option? No matter what direction you go, you will have my complete and undivided attention. Stay safe. Cheers - Larry.
Good analysis Larry. With the Barge Slip scene I would only capture the "spirit" of the prototype in a heavily compressed footprint. Adherence to the prototype goes out the window once artistic license is let loose. It would only resemble the prototype in freelance form much in the same way as Glover Road. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Being overly sentimental I thought Oh, no!, but within moments realised new lessons are on the horizon. So now it is: Oh, yes!
Question now is: What are your primary goals? I am looking forward to you taking us through the thought processes. And then focusing on those goals through the building process.
Respectfully,
Rafael.
My primary goals are to frame up a new and larger canvas to create in the same manner as Glover Road. I am only interested in capturing the "spirit" of the particular railroad in the emotional theater of my mind. It is this type of method and practice I thrive in. I am undisciplined this way when it comes to the genre and I love it so. Cheers my friend! - Boomer.
Ah, yes, the emotions! And thank you for the journey so far.
I like your ideas and I like the phase (canvas).
Thank You. I'll build the bench work first and see what I can squeeze in. I'll be taking advantage of all the artistic license and freelance practice I can despite the prototype example. One has to in the smaller footprint. Cheers.
The barge looks exciting. Look forward to it
It does. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Brilliant Railroad diorama . So realistic , it is very impressive . Glad to discover your channel and subscribe it .
Thank you very much for the sub! Glover Road began just over a year ago. The channel began around it a year ago as well. It sort of evolved within the community, into what it is, based on my life experiences and the railroad. Even though it had a whimsical feel to it, it came out better than I first thought. Cheers - Boomer
@@boomerdiorama A nice sucess !
@@worldhistoryminiatureshous9757 Thank You! ~ Boomer.
Barge vs engine shop.... In addition to space and layout considerations, the barge layout would focus on cars and operations more than locomotives, while the engine shop would focus on locomotives with trains passing by. Either would be cool, and there's no wrong choice: whichever one you choose, once it's done you can always do the other as your next project!
You summed it up exactly. A tough decision. A compressed Barge Slip scene (as I see it) would be more dramatic "artistically" in my experience. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
We should all be so lucky to have the space you have. I model the,. Live Oak Perry &'Gulf Railroad in a 12 ft wide by 16 ft long.
That sounds nice!. The River Road (My New Layout) is a little larger than this @ 10 ft. by 11ft. That is huge for me. More than enough railroad to model. Cheers.
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Thank you! Cheers!
That will be an exciting new build! What are you planning on doing with the Glover road Grain silos, and other structures on the layout?
All the models from Glover Road are displayed on my book shelf. Cheers.
I will surely miss the Glover Road and while I love diesel shops and seeing how you upgrade and reviews your locomotives building the barge scene would show us an entirely different set of challenges with the water and shoreline.
Thank You Bob. It's never easy to move on from something you become attached. It won't be gone though. But I think it is time for a new build.
Well I hate to see it go. But I know that whatever you decide to do is going to end up looking incredible
My sentiments the same. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Actually planning something similar (Brooklyn, NY waterfront circa mid 30s) also with space constraints so I look forward to see what you create.
Thank You for commenting Jeff. I love the water front as well. I grew up close to the water front. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Do whatever will make you happy, in the end I find that it's a lot easier to avoid burnout if you are really enjoying what you are doing and just do it at your own pace.
You are exactly right David. You must love the subject if you want to overcome the inevitable obstacles. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
I like this layout as it is very imaginative, it can also be incorporated into future modular layouts, I have find that deconstruction of a build or a track spur can add to the excitement of this and other layouts. 9' by 12' tough shed would be Ideal, my garage is about that dimension [my garage is 10' by 15']. I model in On30 and since I am living in a room devote to music and junk, I am think mit is time to take the ;pnf wall and put is a modular layout as time passes.......... Remember your layout is your therapy!
Thank You. The layout won't completely disappear. Cheers.
Dear Master Modeler, Sir! In my opinion you really should try to get a display room, ideally big enough to add your next project as an addition to this gem. I't too nice to not being operated from time to time. It's finished now so stack up your art!
It is stacked up on the wall in another room with all the components are displayed on my book shelf ;-)
If you build something like the barge slip, do you think you'll use the Alex Fraser as a end view block, as you did with the viaduct here? I look forward to seeing the next steps in your modelling! I'll echo others here and thank you for bringing us along on the journey. Really inspirational.
That's a great idea. I suppose one could if they used "hyper" compression. It might be more plausible in N Scale though. But hey . . . why not? Cheers ~ Boomer.
I designed my layout with 2'x4' dioramas that can be switched and moved to change scenery.
That is a great idea. Ian Rice was a proponent of that concept. I used to love reading his books on model railroad design. What a great artist as well! Cheers ~ Boomer.
The inspiration I got from this series is that if I want to build a large layout I can do it 8 or 10 feet at a time, highly detail it and not get burned out in the process. Eventually it would all come together but it might take more time.
Yes fore sure. The Glover Road Diorama was also designed with an easy tear-down and set-up in mind. It's not going away. Just to bed for awhile . . . lol. Furthermore, down the road, I can link it up anyway. Cheers.
You have done a fantastic job on the module. As a builder type, would you really get much value from the module if you stored it? It seems like you might not look at it much since you will be focused on your next project. Maybe raise some cash and give others enjoyment by selling it?
Both new concepts sound interesting. The barge seems like too much compression in the space available. Loco shop would seem to fit better. Maybe there is a third viable option you haven't considered yet (i.e. centered around one medium or large industry).
You raise good points Michael. I would rather not sell the Glover Road project. It packs up and moves nicely. It's a keeper. I designed it "wild" with this in mind. It's like a mini movie set that tears down and sets up well. The next one won't be as friendly this way. I agree, the Barge Slip would require far too much compression in HO scale for the allotted space. I am leaning quite strongly in the direction of the locomotive shops with the associated yard lead for expansion onto the next wing (module), which I will include as well in the initial first phase. Thank You again for your advice. It is sound and I appreciate it. Cheers ~ Boomer.
I won't know what channel I'm watching if there isn't a Dairy Queen and a pink factory building. 🤔
Can you do 24" deep? I can see the possibilities there in your idea. And that'd give you a reason to pull the upper out 26" to get that front lighting you wanted.
If you want to curve around across the windows,why not? You can always create raisable backdrop sections to keep the light & view when you're not running.
So many opportunities. What's the hold up?!🙂
Lol. I can still display the building on a regular shelf as a memoir if I want, now that I think about it. They do stand alone as well. Yes . . . I can come out 24" and cross the window. I might go with the engine facility and the yard lead I think . . .
I model a car float operation, so naturally I would like to see how you would approach it. Car floats present some challenges both in modelling and operations. As others have said, I hate the idea of Glover Road disappearing, but it's your call.
I might go for the SRY Engine and Shops facility. This way I can add-on part of the class yard later in the planning. The Glover Road piece is special for sure but I can't milk it forever. Cheers and thanks for the input.
It appears like you have made up your mind. Could Glover Rd not sit above the new shadow box? It would provide both inspiration and a welcome distraction. I looked on google earth street view at the crossing where the real Silo sits. You certainly captured the 'mood' of the locality. As always great work. Look forward to watching and listening to your deliberations and progress.
Thank You Gary. The Glover Road Diorama was also designed with an easy tear-down (wild) and set-up in mind. It's not going away. Just to bed for awhile . . . lol.
Do you have enough room to put Glover Road above the valance, maybe on will brackets? Hate to see it stuffed away somewhere after all of the effort you've put into it. Anyway to work the barge scene into Glover Road as an extension?
Maybe. The above has to be for storage. No space. The Barge Slip might be a stretch as well. Easy to imagineer it in, but I don't think the restrictive footprint will do it justice. I may try anyway . . . Cheers.
I vote for the rail barge subject as the next project.
Thank You Jim. I do lean towards the Barge Slip Scene. I use the prototype for inspiration. Then throw it out in the name of artistic license (compression) when I compress and compose the scene.
Rail barge operations are one of the most interesting concepts in model railroading. I had modeled the Seattle & North Coast using the rail barge as the main visual interest. The barge I kitbashed would hold eleven 50’ cars so acted as my staging yard. So I look forward to your professional approach.
My vote is for the engine facility
Me too! The barge slip may command too much space for HO scale in this footprint. The water front really appeals to me though. Cheers ~ Boomer.
Sad to see glover rd go but excited for the new layout to come. By the way are you going to be displaying your 5 foot bridge diorama on a wall as well or will it be fully portable.
Good question. Something like that. Although, it takes a back seat to this one coming for now.
Is there a website that shows your track plan by any chance it would be neat to see cuz I'm impressed on how you fit everything in such a small space but made it look so amazing
It's in two videos here on YT. Take your time and find them. There's bits of wisdom in every one, making it well worth the time.
Good question. Go to "Community Tab" and scroll down a ways. There is a "napkin" drawing there. Cheers ~ Boomer
If and when my health improves, my future lndustrail layout theme is I have a brewery, inbound grains, glass, cardboard, small steel fabrication shop, a railroad freight car repair facility, a four to five door warehouse for miscellaneous loads, then two house tracks set up with various types of equiipment to unload customer's cars, then we'll deliver their materials to their work site. I have an area where they will be loading hoppers full of salt and tank cars full of magnesium chloride for dust control (summer) and ice removal in the (winter) season.
So I've been taking mental, physical notes, and pgotographs on how the alkali affects the bottoms of buildings and utility poles, mine will be alot lighter, almost bleached, then my ground cover will start with dried out alkaline mud glued down with real magnesium chloride, ballast will be loose and not a priority using limestone fines the same way that you had done on your layout. Driving surfaces will be a mixture of used asphalt and more limestone fines. You won't see any personal vehicles because they leave them outside of the gates. Most workers will be in carpools or a bus. That's what I invision it to be.
Sounds awesome! Find your best running locomotive (not just best looking) and have constant fun! Thanks for sharing! Cheers ~ Boomer.😁
Boomer, I've bought four four axle locomomotives, all GE locomomotives, you'd think atleast one of the four will be running B20-9C, ( a B23-7 with a 2,000 hp CAT engine). B23-7, Super 7 23B and a U18B. The first three will be in their predecessor's owner, the 801 will be painted in haze grey, with 8 - 0 - 1 large enough to start on the top of it's hood going down to the walkway like the ones seen on USN equiipment. The B23-7 is a former NS, it will have various shades of black on the unit, the Super 7 will be painted up in Weyerheuaser yellow and black. I'm planning having a 9 foot 3.5% grade before it levels off to a run around track serving the brewery and the metal fabrication shop. A nearby shortline has a B36-7 in it's roster along with two rebuilt GP9s.
It’s great to go back and listen to you describe your vision for something I watched you build.
Yes. Good point. I go back and watch some and it's cool how things turn out, and change a little as well. ;-)
I've always thought that you should just put mirror on the right side end wall
A mirror would look cool for sure. Cheers.
@@boomerdiorama I like quick and dirty. Helps me in my machining career and modeling
So do you sell them after , or you saving them for the mother of all freemo setups ?
I used to sell my work. Not really anymore though. But everything is for sale for the right price . . . lol. Problem is, is I couldn't afford to buy it myself . . . lol. It might be a good add-on later down the road though. Cheers ~ Boomer.
I know this probably isn't what you want to do, but as a partial solution to the compression issue, why not go with N scale? Same space, yet more room for "stuff"? BTW, you've done a great job with this layout. You should be proud!
Thank You Mike. I am in way to deep with my HO Scale collection to switch now. How would I find replacements for all my models in N Scale? - that is a whole new pursuit I do not want. I can compress any subject to my hearts content artistically in the same manner as Glover Road. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
@@boomerdiorama I see your point.The last time I "messed with trains" I was just a kid, and I'll be 60 later this year. I love admiring the work people put into the hobby, but often don't take into account the time and effort it takes to do things right.
@@mikerichardson7261 I just turned 60 and I am just getting started again as well! Cheers ~ Boomer.
I haven't watched all of your previous videos but have you thought about changing to N scale?
No. I was many years ago. HO is my medium. It would be fool-hardy economically for me to change scales now. It's taken me years to acquire the Canadian equipment, and "custom" locomotives I desire and have on the work bench already. Furthermore, as cool as I think N Scale is, I can't see it anymore. I would loose all my modelling liberty to frustration. Cheers.
I feel for you bro! I have built many N scale layouts in my small space of 8'x8' "L" shaped area and ran them for the last 15 years. I want to change to HO scale however. I model 1920s steam, so in N scale my options are limited for good locomotives. I run trains for operations and that is why I went to N scale in the first place. I know I can do operations in HO in my small area too. I saw a video of few months ago given by Bill Neale on one of the NMRA regional websites where he showed a track plan with inter city switching; I might have to use that as a starting point for a design of an HO scale layout in limited space.
Not to mention that maintenance would be a lot easier in HO scale as you already know!@@boomerdiorama
@@user-nx8tk1pp5o HO is the ultimate scale in my opinion and experience. The problem with N is switching. The locomotives are too light for good conductivity. The track profile is too high and the maintenance can be burdensome. Not to mention, I can't see it anymore. Furthermore, HO scale has the best support of any scale bar none. Cheers.
I don't know what's on wall opposite of this layout, but it might give you three more feet.
Thank You James. I'll be scooping up more than three more feet for sure. The potentially larger footprint offers multiple possibilities. I'll be sharing more in several subsequent vlogging style episodes before I initiate the "take-down." Cheers ~ Boomer
Boomer, can you stack your dioramas one on top of the other? Maybe mount them both on a vertical track with a pulley system to move them up and down the wall. If you spaced it right you might be able to stack three!
That's a doable scenario I guess. Thank You. Cheers.
A big layout is made with a group of small dioramas
Yup. Some call the same idea . . . "Signature Scenes."