Jeff great video and thanks for keeping up with the comments! I have a 2016 F150 with 98k miles. Just started happening to me yesterday same thing. Extremely violent and scary when it happens at 80mph on a TX highway, very dangerous… DTC Codes P0706 & P0707 & P1702. After doing some research when the transmission range sensor throws a fault the truck immediately shifts into 3rd gear and stays there until you park or turn the truck off. Once you turn the truck off (like your video) you can’t turn it back on…. Going to call the dealer tomorrow and see what can be done. Maybe Ms Lyons can help me too!
Thanks for the comment Nick. I never got the 1702 code, but maybe because I was having intermittent failure of the circuit. This should be a recall. My only hope is that more people submit their story to NHTSA and it becomes a recall.
This happened to my 2012 ford mustang. A way i found to start the vehicle again is to take the key out, lock the doors while you're inside the car. Unlock it, put the key in the ignition and turn to the on position, press unlock on the fob again and try to crank. Might take a couple of times. Or, clear engine codes. Simplest way.
What I did to be able to use my truck until I could fix it was to wire a push button directly to the starter. On the occasions where it would not start I would turn the key to the run position and hit the push button and it would start.
As of yesterday, that’s exactly what my 2014 is doing. I tried clearing the codes but it seems like they come right back and I can’t start it. I didn’t try to start it as many times as the video I did get the recall fixed on it last week and now this happens
Well thanks for this video I have 2015 f 150 3.5 and my truck in shop now I had these same code come up the auto shop can't get to my truck to test it till Monday hope it's still all covered under my warranty it should be I got the extra warranty cover package sucks ford definitely needs to address this.
my 2013 f150 gave me the Rench symbol so i pulled over and thinking just turn off then on to see if it reset it then the truck won't even turn over. I checked and got the PO707 and PO706 codes. not sure if it's the wiring harness or the Lead frame range sensor.
My 2016 F150 just done this yesterday, it was right after I left a drive through car wash, so I figured something got wet that didn't like it. That is the only time it has done it and hasn't done it since. Now I don't feel so confident that is was just a freak incident.
2016 F150 5.0 V8 167k miles here- throwing the same code. Originally thought it was my alternator, taking it into the ford dealer on Monday to have the entire lead frame replaced as suggested in this video. Looks like the total will be about $1,000 but how much time was it in the shop for? Thanks for the video
They had mine for about 4 days because the mechanic bent the pins on the connector and muffed up the the first lead frame. They had to order another lead frame and a pigtail to splice into the harness on the frame of the truck. I’d say best case, 2 days, worst case, a week.
@@jeffreyeyring 134k .. I work in sales at a ford dealership and the mechanic told me exactly what it was before he ran the codes … He said it’s a very common issue
It could but if you’re going to go through the trouble, you might as well replace the lead frame. Lasco ford has the lead frame for about $200 www.lascoautoparts.com/oem-parts/ford-al3z-7g276-d-2016-2017-2018-2019-ford-transit-valve-body-connector-in-stock-as-of-1-25-22-al3z7g276d?c=bD0xJm49U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHMmYT1mb3JkJm89Zi0xNTAmeT0yMDE2JnQ9eGx0JmU9NS0wbC12OC1mbGV4
Nothing major but occasionally I notice a “strange shift” maybe it’s the hill or terrain that I am on or something else. I’ve always been keenly aware of the way my vehicles sound/operate but even more so now than ever before. Lol
Ford diagnosed as a failed molded lead frame (connects the solenoids and contains various sensors, range sensor, output speed sensor, temp sensor). Total with parts and labor is about 925
Sorry to hear this…you’ll need to get the molded lead frame replaced (~$960 parts and labor). This part contains the range sensor that is giving false readings to the computer. Try to limp to the dealer, call ford corporate for financial assistance. They paid 60% on mine. My truck had 46K when it happened. Good luck!
The range sensor is integrated into the molded lead frame along with the output speed sensor. It’s a fabulous design whereby the metallic particles in the fluid accumulate on the sliding potentiometer and tell the computer to downshift at highway speeds. Good luck. Enter a complaint on NTSB, maybe it will eventually become a recall.
Jeff great video and thanks for keeping up with the comments!
I have a 2016 F150 with 98k miles. Just started happening to me yesterday same thing. Extremely violent and scary when it happens at 80mph on a TX highway, very dangerous…
DTC Codes P0706 & P0707 & P1702.
After doing some research when the transmission range sensor throws a fault the truck immediately shifts into 3rd gear and stays there until you park or turn the truck off. Once you turn the truck off (like your video) you can’t turn it back on….
Going to call the dealer tomorrow and see what can be done. Maybe Ms Lyons can help me too!
Thanks for the comment Nick. I never got the 1702 code, but maybe because I was having intermittent failure of the circuit. This should be a recall. My only hope is that more people submit their story to NHTSA and it becomes a recall.
@@jeffreyeyringThis happened to me today in my 2016 5.0 any tips?
@@korycoe7500 get it fixed before it downshifts at highway speeds.
This happened to my 2012 ford mustang. A way i found to start the vehicle again is to take the key out, lock the doors while you're inside the car. Unlock it, put the key in the ignition and turn to the on position, press unlock on the fob again and try to crank. Might take a couple of times.
Or, clear engine codes. Simplest way.
What I did to be able to use my truck until I could fix it was to wire a push button directly to the starter. On the occasions where it would not start I would turn the key to the run position and hit the push button and it would start.
As of yesterday, that’s exactly what my 2014 is doing. I tried clearing the codes but it seems like they come right back and I can’t start it. I didn’t try to start it as many times as the video I did get the recall fixed on it last week and now this happens
@@raymondmontes137 Try turning the key on and then jumping the starter. You can use a screwdriver but make sure it has an insulated handle.
Well thanks for this video I have 2015 f 150 3.5 and my truck in shop now I had these same code come up the auto shop can't get to my truck to test it till Monday hope it's still all covered under my warranty it should be I got the extra warranty cover package sucks ford definitely needs to address this.
Agreed.
my 2013 f150 gave me the Rench symbol so i pulled over and thinking just turn off then on to see if it reset it then the truck won't even turn over. I checked and got the PO707 and PO706 codes. not sure if it's the wiring harness or the Lead frame range sensor.
My 2016 F150 just done this yesterday, it was right after I left a drive through car wash, so I figured something got wet that didn't like it. That is the only time it has done it and hasn't done it since. Now I don't feel so confident that is was just a freak incident.
Nope. Get it to the dealer before it happens to downshift on the highway.
Can you help me explain what you replaced? I have the same problem f150 8cil 2016 but today I couldn't start the engine again 😢
The molded lead frame on the valve body inside the pan of the transmission needs to be replaced.
I'm having this exact same issue.
2016 F150 5.0 V8 167k miles here- throwing the same code. Originally thought it was my alternator, taking it into the ford dealer on Monday to have the entire lead frame replaced as suggested in this video. Looks like the total will be about $1,000 but how much time was it in the shop for? Thanks for the video
They had mine for about 4 days because the mechanic bent the pins on the connector and muffed up the the first lead frame. They had to order another lead frame and a pigtail to splice into the harness on the frame of the truck. I’d say best case, 2 days, worst case, a week.
@@jeffreyeyring would you recommend ordering the lead frame myself or having the ford dealership order it?
@@Lwhit61 have the dealership order it. If they bend the pins or it comes muffed up, they will blame your part.
It happens to my 2017 F150 i wanna know how much will cost to fix it ?
Around a grand at the dealership
This is exactly what my 2017 is doing
Did you get yours fixed?
Yes. I got it fixed. Ford covered 60% which is still ridiculous considering it’s a safety issue
@@jeffreyeyring so did they just end up replacing lead frame? And no issues since they fixed it?
@@charliehuey6624 correct.
@@charliehuey6624 do you have the 6R80 (6 speed) in your 2017?
I have a 2016 f150 5.0 .. My truck is in the shop now.. I had the same exact issues ..
Good luck. How many miles?
@@jeffreyeyring 134k .. I work in sales at a ford dealership and the mechanic told me exactly what it was before he ran the codes … He said it’s a very common issue
What did he say it was if don't mind me asking
I’m having the same issue now with my 2015 f150 5.0 with 88k miles on it. I’m wondering if changing fluid and cleaning the lead frame could help?
It could but if you’re going to go through the trouble, you might as well replace the lead frame. Lasco ford has the lead frame for about $200 www.lascoautoparts.com/oem-parts/ford-al3z-7g276-d-2016-2017-2018-2019-ford-transit-valve-body-connector-in-stock-as-of-1-25-22-al3z7g276d?c=bD0xJm49U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHMmYT1mb3JkJm89Zi0xNTAmeT0yMDE2JnQ9eGx0JmU9NS0wbC12OC1mbGV4
Did you change the fluid or replace the lead frame? What was your success?
Fix de problem
I have the same problem
what was the solution🙏
Molded lead frame
Any issues after having it fixed? I just bought a 2017 3 weeks ago and it started doing this. Second time taking it in already in less than a month
Nothing major but occasionally I notice a “strange shift” maybe it’s the hill or terrain that I am on or something else.
I’ve always been keenly aware of the way my vehicles sound/operate but even more so now than ever before. Lol
What did you do to fix the problem? Or just a reset work for you?
Ford diagnosed as a failed molded lead frame (connects the solenoids and contains various sensors, range sensor, output speed sensor, temp sensor). Total with parts and labor is about 925
What you replace in the end i have the same issue
Got the same problem in my 16 f150 5.0 Cost me one of the best hunting days so far this year 👎🏼
Meme chose pour moi f-150 2017 115000km
My truck started doing this and it doesn't want to start anymore.
Sorry to hear this…you’ll need to get the molded lead frame replaced (~$960 parts and labor). This part contains the range sensor that is giving false readings to the computer. Try to limp to the dealer, call ford corporate for financial assistance. They paid 60% on mine. My truck had 46K when it happened. Good luck!
My 2016 Ford F-150 just started having this problem. Would replacing the transmission range sensor fix it?
The range sensor is integrated into the molded lead frame along with the output speed sensor. It’s a fabulous design whereby the metallic particles in the fluid accumulate on the sliding potentiometer and tell the computer to downshift at highway speeds. Good luck. Enter a complaint on NTSB, maybe it will eventually become a recall.