Good video, I always just use the factory piece that I cut out . I try to cut 1" out of center but try to leave just a little bit of the round edge on top and bottom of frame and over lap the pieces. I think it's a little stronger and you don't have to buy nothing.
Same thing I do . I'll cut the outer plate off at the seam top and bottom , remove coatings and rust from cut out and frame rail then clean it up with a grinder , tuck the other plate inside the rail then weld it back up . Been doing it like that on 1,500+ hp cars and 0 failures or bent frames .
Excellent job once again,Jeff!!!! You definitely rocked the good ol G Body... Love the video,Jon should be so lucky to have friends like you!!!! CUT AND WELD ON.....
love those G-Bodies, sold mine a few months ago but with your continuous tutorial. I might just get another and take my time. watching from Charlotte NC. Thanks
Well done. One of these days I'm gonna do a notch on my wagon. In the drive way with a grinder/ cutoff blade and a 110v mig will be a bit tougher than the job you did. Wish you were colse to New Orleans I would sub out some work to you for sure!!!
did mine the same with 1 5/8 tubing & the bars running up to where the upper controls mount are pretty close to my upper tubular control arms bout an inch away with full tank & car lowered . i hear them hit here and there while driving . took it to the drag strip did fine but will it affect it being limited to transfer weight back when launching? i’m thinking i can notch them for more clearance
Perfect I'm about to do this to my 79 coupe "devillen" I've been hesitant because of thinning the frame but the inner support is all I needed to see and I'm originally a lowrider guy so a plate on the inside of the frame makes sense too. The only thing I'll do different is drill holes in both rear cross members and slide the connector bars inside and weld them.
Here’s a dumb question. If I notch my GBody 1” on both side obviously. Can I shorten up my rear end by 1” on both sides in order to get a deep dish rim installed. Any opinion.
Think could you make a anti-roll bar with that attaches to that cross bar you welded across frame maybe attach coil over mounts to it too sell it as a kit
I have an 85 El Camino with a 10 inch rear rim that fits no problem with no frame notch, I want to get a 12 inch rear rim in there is that possible with a frame notch, I know Umi carries this frame notch kit I have full Umi suspension on the car now.
How safe is it to notch it like that. I know you added bracing but isn't there still potential for bending? My old 69 Camaro used to bend the rails not even notched
Great content. Can’t see where else you plan to strengthen the g body chassis. But How do you plan to mount the arb? My arb welded to the cross brace where you put the tubes forward
Great breakdown. Did you find the kit kind of pointless? I have the raw steel here to do this, and I was thinking of cutting out the piece, tracing the piece that comes out and cut it to fit. It seems pointless to buy the kit since you're already doing that anyway. Thoughts?
Nice video man I just subscribed. I see the plates on the car are from n.c. I wonder if your close to me I'd like to get a price from you to do this and mini tub
Hey Jeff, been following you TH-cam channel for a while. I’ve got a 87 Monte Carlo SS, and I’m trying to fit a 20x10.5 315/30/20 under the back. With a 1inch spacer, we’re just a little off (maybe 1inch). Do you think a frame notch would do the trick or is this mini tub time?
Hey bro, is the rear end shortened at all? I am trying to fit a 22x9 inch wheel with like a 285/30/22 tire out back. I am going to notch frame but if i also shorten the rear end how will that work?
You gotta knock your frame back enough to allow the fitment , but if you're shortening the rear AND doing the notch , you're gonna need to get it tubbed as well .
Nice! So what would something like this cost at a shop and the average turnaround?! I know different areas will cost more than others, just looking for a ballpark.
Without doing a mini tub, how much tire can you get in it? I'm wanting to run at least a 295/60-15 on a 10" wheel, but I want it tucked. Wondering if I need a mini tub as well.
@@betosgarage man this give me some hope cuz I didn't want to have to to this not right off the back I'm building my LS swap 370ci nitrous motor as we speak
When you were cutting that out I thought it would weaken it considerably and how you were going to compensate! We have to give to get when Hot Rodding! Good Common Sense goes a long way
The problem to me wouldnt be the braceing you added its the fact you cut both sides without braceing the rearend first and then moving it up and down man that rear end has to be sagging a little and then you braced it after the fact so it stays that way. And you cant figer out why the small pieces are angled thats becauae your sopposed to angle your cuts to make a angled transition to give it strength instead of chopping it off square that tells me your remark about experienced fabricators and shit meant nothing becuase you have never notched a frame rail before is what that tells me
Are you guys still working on cars if so can you send me the address I'm in nyc and would love to do the frame notch on my g body just let me know how much ok thank and keep up the good work
All these months my car been @ RPM Motorsport I didn’t know that was you I would’ve been asked you about frame notching... I need someone to Frame Notch mines
You know what's easier than that? Buying wheels with enough offset to give you the clearance you need. Or just upgrade the wheel studs and throw a 1/4" spacer on each side.
Good video, I always just use the factory piece that I cut out . I try to cut 1" out of center but try to leave just a little bit of the round edge on top and bottom of frame and over lap the pieces. I think it's a little stronger and you don't have to buy nothing.
Same thing I do . I'll cut the outer plate off at the seam top and bottom , remove coatings and rust from cut out and frame rail then clean it up with a grinder , tuck the other plate inside the rail then weld it back up . Been doing it like that on 1,500+ hp cars and 0 failures or bent frames .
@@ryanh415this is good info. do i need to weld a 3/16 or 1/4 thick bar rail to rail prior to cutting?
Some of the best content on TH-cam. Excellent stuff bud
Excellent job once again,Jeff!!!! You definitely rocked the good ol G Body... Love the video,Jon should be so lucky to have friends like you!!!! CUT AND WELD ON.....
love those G-Bodies, sold mine a few months ago but with your continuous tutorial. I might just get another and take my time. watching from Charlotte NC. Thanks
Man, you once again, knocked it out the park!! good job Jeff
Great job brother!!! I’ve been looking for a video like this forever. If you ever do a mini tub on a gbody please post it. Thanks
What is the widest size tire you can fit with a frame notch and mini tub ?
I love the “G-body shuffle”!!
Would you say that’s an 8-10 hour job? I mainly do Jeeps, but I have a customer with a Monte Carlo who wants a quote to do the job.
What did you use to hold the back of the frame up so the rear quarters don't buckle
I have a question about the inner part of the wheel well. Did you show where you or how you hammered it or messaged it at?
Great video jeff,im getting ready to do this to my Malibu, I'll be using a cutoff wheel and jackstands to do job,thanks for the good tips
The metall the same gauge as the stock frame metal?
Good video. This was a much needed topic to go over.
I have a gbody and never have i seen a complete vid on a frame notch..jeff is froggin talented and i envie his work space
Well done. One of these days I'm gonna do a notch on my wagon. In the drive way with a grinder/ cutoff blade and a 110v mig will be a bit tougher than the job you did. Wish you were colse to New Orleans I would sub out some work to you for sure!!!
did mine the same with 1 5/8 tubing & the bars running up to where the upper controls mount are pretty close to my upper tubular control arms bout an inch away with full tank & car lowered . i hear them hit here and there while driving . took it to the drag strip did fine but will it affect it being limited to transfer weight back when launching? i’m thinking i can notch them for more clearance
Perfect I'm about to do this to my 79 coupe "devillen" I've been hesitant because of thinning the frame but the inner support is all I needed to see and I'm originally a lowrider guy so a plate on the inside of the frame makes sense too. The only thing I'll do different is drill holes in both rear cross members and slide the connector bars inside and weld them.
About to notch my wagon. Thanks for the tips Jason
Here’s a dumb question. If I notch my GBody 1” on both side obviously. Can I shorten up my rear end by 1” on both sides in order to get a deep dish rim installed. Any opinion.
does the cross support you welded in negatively affect handling for non drag application? like if I want to do a mild pro tourer?
Can u fab up a wide body kit for g body? @highpsitv 4:07
I need some like this done on my gbody monte Carlo SS
Think could you make a anti-roll bar with that attaches to that cross bar you welded across frame maybe attach coil over mounts to it too sell it as a kit
There are kits out there like that
@@HighPSItv sweet thanks for the info building 86 pontiac 2+2 right now
Great video, do you have a video of how to notch the front to a full turn on big wheels?
Ive never done it
What size tubing is that ? Looks good 👍🏽
By doing the same thing.. can i get 315/60/15 to fit? 15x10 rim 5 1/2 Backspace? or will i have to mini tub car? same car 87 cutlass
How many hours would you say you have into the notch.. that fitting up and all ?
About 4 hours
Helpful video! Makes me comfortable with the cutting I've done on mine this week. Time to get to welding
Hello are you taking any projects on such as this but I would like it to fit 24 x 12 in the rear with no problem
Im dont have room for any more projects currently
I love the videos and how u make it look simple keep up the good content
I have an 85 El Camino with a 10 inch rear rim that fits no problem with no frame notch, I want to get a 12 inch rear rim in there is that possible with a frame notch, I know Umi carries this frame notch kit I have full Umi suspension on the car now.
Can u tell about knoch n 26 on my gbody 1987 ss monte carlo ss
As much as Id love to tackle this myself is this something you would want to do on an Elco?
How safe is it to notch it like that. I know you added bracing but isn't there still potential for bending? My old 69 Camaro used to bend the rails not even notched
All the suspension pickup points are forward of the notch. So it's all good
There is a pre-cut kit to do this? Who knew! Very cool.
I tried To Put My 24s On my Buick Regal I put adapters And A Spacer It Was Scrubbing the frame will this Help ❓
What’s the widest tire I can fit without tubbing I have a 295 30 20
can you fit a 305 back there now?
I was wondering do you think I would have to notch my cutlass frame for a 24x10 rear wheel..??
Depends on your wheel offset and what tire you run
Great content. Can’t see where else you plan to strengthen the g body chassis. But How do you plan to mount the arb? My arb welded to the cross brace where you put the tubes forward
What's an ARB?
Anti roll bar
after completing the rear frame notch kit how big width wheels can fit back there x10? x10.5? x11? x12?
You can run an 11. But its tight
What the best way to notch the front of a g body cutlass supreme
Are the 87 monte carlo ls. This smooth to frame notch
What size tube did you use ? I think i missed it. Thanks
1 3/4
Great vid. Very interesting and just the right amount of detail and time lapse
You mentioned the tire size, but you didn't mention the rim offset?
Normally its 10" wheel and 5" backspace
Great breakdown. Did you find the kit kind of pointless? I have the raw steel here to do this, and I was thinking of cutting out the piece, tracing the piece that comes out and cut it to fit. It seems pointless to buy the kit since you're already doing that anyway. Thoughts?
Thats how I did my first notch
Did that G-brace handle all the power your car makes?
Nice video man I just subscribed. I see the plates on the car are from n.c. I wonder if your close to me I'd like to get a price from you to do this and mini tub
Peep that Packard in the background! Can’t wait for that.
Is the bracing necessary if i have the umi shock mount brace?
How long did it take you to knockout the frame
Hey Jeff, been following you TH-cam channel for a while. I’ve got a 87 Monte Carlo SS, and I’m trying to fit a 20x10.5 315/30/20 under the back. With a 1inch spacer, we’re just a little off (maybe 1inch). Do you think a frame notch would do the trick or is this mini tub time?
On a Monte, you probably will need a mini tub
Hey bro, is the rear end shortened at all? I am trying to fit a 22x9 inch wheel with like a 285/30/22 tire out back. I am going to notch frame but if i also shorten the rear end how will that work?
You gotta knock your frame back enough to allow the fitment , but if you're shortening the rear AND doing the notch , you're gonna need to get it tubbed as well .
@@ryanh415 appreciated bro
My question is how deep or wide a wheel can u run once u do a notch 10? Or 11? I assume a tub would all few more inches
10 will fit great
Hey bud great job...what kind of plasma cutter and welder is that?
Miller , from arc 3
Get video where are u located
just did mine , thanks for the video it helped a lot 🤙
Makin it sound simple I love it
Great video. Stock drum beaks on a drag car though.
Front brakes and parachute do all the work
Doing for years you must be a younger
Nice! So what would something like this cost at a shop and the average turnaround?! I know different areas will cost more than others, just looking for a ballpark.
Probably Bout $1000 a
And a few days.
What’s the back spacing on the wheel you’re gonna use. Might be doing this to my Malibu soon.
Should be 0 offset
Thanks, what about the back spacing though. I think people been fitting 5 to 5 1/2 inches of wheel back spacing with the frame notch done.
Great vid learned a lot from watching it 👍
Do you cut both sides out then put in plates or one by one ?
I do one at a time
Damn good job bro. 😎. Very detailed video.
Without doing a mini tub, how much tire can you get in it? I'm wanting to run at least a 295/60-15 on a 10" wheel, but I want it tucked. Wondering if I need a mini tub as well.
U will probably have to mini tub
@@HighPSItv any idea how much more of the frame would need notched?
What size rim and tire
What's size welder did you use,
180
I was able to fit a 275 radial on mine with out notch . But I’m notching it to try & fit a 315 ona 10 or 11 wide wheel . Great video
What width wheel and back spacing do you have
15x9 4.5 cragar 342
I did roll fender & bang out inner wheel well on the lil spots where it rubbed . Fits like a charm now .
@@betosgarage man this give me some hope cuz I didn't want to have to to this not right off the back I'm building my LS swap 370ci nitrous motor as we speak
@@antjwan1 hell yea bro 💯💪
He might want to add a shock tower brace frm UMI for more support with that notch if he hasn't already
Know you made the video a while back but I might frame notch my cutlass. The video was head on!
tie in the frame ends on the bumper bracket.. huge!
Where are you located??
Great video! I have an 85 el camino I’m looking to have some work done to. Can you DM me?
When you were cutting that out I thought it would weaken it considerably and how you were going to compensate! We have to give to get when Hot Rodding! Good Common Sense goes a long way
Excellent work bro 💪👊☝
I have 295/50/15s on my 80' Cutlass, wanna go to a 305/50/15 how hard is a mini tub to do?
Its not fun, but do able
What backspace u running for that 295/50/15. ?
The problem to me wouldnt be the braceing you added its the fact you cut both sides without braceing the rearend first and then moving it up and down man that rear end has to be sagging a little and then you braced it after the fact so it stays that way. And you cant figer out why the small pieces are angled thats becauae your sopposed to angle your cuts to make a angled transition to give it strength instead of chopping it off square that tells me your remark about experienced fabricators and shit meant nothing becuase you have never notched a frame rail before is what that tells me
Charles Torruella what would sag?? Everything that matters is in front of the notch were the links bolt
What the price range to notch a frame on the G body? thanks
All about $1000
Are you located in nc?
How much does something like this cost?
Are you guys still working on cars if so can you send me the address I'm in nyc and would love to do the frame notch on my g body just let me know how much ok thank and keep up the good work
Where did you order the gram notch kit?
UMI
What is the rim size that you're putting in there?
I think its 15 x 10
What you charge to do tht
You slammed the pipe in the rear!?
where are you located? id like the same thing done to my 79 el camino. send me a pm
Raleigh NC
Great informative video as always
Does a 15x8 4.5 bs fit with this
I honestly dont know, but it should
How much do that cost
How much cost this work ?
Nice work. Where are u located
Raleigh
What did you charge to do the frame notch?
$1000
All these months my car been @ RPM Motorsport I didn’t know that was you I would’ve been asked you about frame notching... I need someone to Frame Notch mines
Glad we got to talk about it
How much for you ro do my frame notch. Awesome video.
$1200
When could you do.mine good job
I dont have the room right now for any more projects
Nice work.
Great job, what would you charge for the whole job ??
About $1500
How much does something like this cost to get done
About $1000
You know what's easier than that? Buying wheels with enough offset to give you the clearance you need. Or just upgrade the wheel studs and throw a 1/4" spacer on each side.
Yea, but then the hit the inside of the quarter panel 😲😲
That is true but you could raise the rear up or leave it at stock ride hight and it should clear
@@bryanmoring9819 its currently at stock ride height
How much could I expect to pay for labor to have this done?
About $1000