Really excellent video. Love the palette of sounds you set up to be able to blend with the rest of the music as needed. Calm in your knowledge that comes from experience. Great stuff. Thank you
that was so cool and so informative, but man oh man am I upset the multi-tracks are not actually drum multi tracks. I got so excited to play around with all those mics. Idk maybe for next time we could get a print of all the mics. cool song though. and the final drum mix is really unique. so cool, well done.
Great for us. We have challenged ourselves to use budget equipment to record and promote our own album into the UK rock album top 40. Brilliant advice. We are using a portable drum booth, 7 mics and a behringer interface.
I've come to a conclusion that in our modern studios we are all always "Looking" at the sound on the monitor. Which isn't how it used to be. And IMHO how it used to be had a lot more sonic pleasantry than a lot of what we are making today. (meaning in the 1960's to 1990's). Our producers were never looking at anything. They were only "LISTENING". I'm not saying there are no great recording sounds coming out now. But I think the focus is being distracted from what it should or needs to be. On the ear.
I agree 100%. There’s something to be said about say a minimalist mic approach and getting a killer sound nonetheless. I’ve never been formally educated in sound engineering but I hope when people learn this trade they’re aware of say the glyn johns technique- 3 mics, that’s all you need sometimes.
This would have been much more helpful if we could see what EQ he is using, preamp levels, etc. I'm sure there are people who have that many channels and mic locker, but this was not terribly relevant to me. I can't afford to set up 30 mics and hope for the best.
Sorry, but sounds tô me as you have all dream gear needed, but dont have a clue what sounds good means. If you need a visual of the Eq, with all parameters settings, your ears are useless.
i guess it doesn't say anywhere that this is a tutorial so you've covered yourselves there. there are granules of relevent info here but mostly it's general chat. this seems to happen a lot on youtube but i guess i can't complain for free
This is crazy overkill for mics! Hard to see all of them, but I counted around 17-20. I've worked in some great studios and some of the best drum sounds I've ever heard was a single decent ribbon mic being used as a close room mic on the whole kit, thats it, nothing else. This guys specialises in tracking drums and I'm sure he knows more than me. Maybe its just for the purpose of this video, but if an artist/drummer asked me to mic the kit like that I'd probably walk out of the session, nuts!
The Sex Pistols had a good number of Mics including Ribbons and 2 Ambient Mics that were hard gated & triggered to open only when the Snare would hit. The key is committing some of the sources to 1 track via comping. If you don't CYA while recording modern-loud as hell Bands correctly, you will spend 6 weeks trying to Mix a Record. I love a Blues Group that I can record live w/my Stereo R88 Ribbon catching 80% of the whole band w/8 other Mics @most, but that's an easy day!
20 mics but only keep one take... generally so I like to have different options depending on the session and drum style. If it is one track maybe only a few extra up. If not like to have most of my fav set ups to work from
Drum tracking and drum sounds are one of the things clients tell me they like most about the sound of my productions. The other thing is how my tracks constantly evolve and never sound boring or same-y for very long. I'm generally using 12-18 mics on drums. I'd use more if I had more inputs available. I'm often tracking bands in some sort of live-ish fashion so some of the inputs have to be dedicated to the rest of the basic tracking. I'm often using the different mics to create different overall drum sounds at different parts of the song. For example: use a mono close room mic during a verse for my main ambience, pull it out for a tightened prechorus, and bring in the stereo room mics for the chorus. Maybe the last chorus gets really dense so I need some extra poke for the snare drum. Luckily I set up that third snare mic to make sure I got a different picture of the snare sound. Turn the snare shell mic up and all of the sudden there's a better representation of that 700-1.5k to help it speak through a wall of guitars. Just a couple quick examples for why I go for a significant pile of mics.
Bummer... I wish he was a lot more specific as he was monitoring from the desk, telling us which mic/mic combinations he's soloing and hearing back as he's mixing and tweaking them. Otherwise there's no point really, I don't know which mics he's working with as he's messing around on the desk. He'll just say "so I switched the phase on the pairs here"... which pairs? which mics again exactly? ...... it's just not as instructional as I wished it would be, he was too vague and not focused enough on sharing specific details as he was working
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What a fantastic studio.
Don’t forget to check out the drum recording multitrack audio download in the description 👆
Really excellent video. Love the palette of sounds you set up to be able to blend with the rest of the music as needed. Calm in your knowledge that comes from experience. Great stuff. Thank you
Wonderful video ! Thank you Mr. Adrian Bushby ! X🤘🏻X
Nice touch with the frames around the soffits. :-)
With that many mic's, mixing the drums becomes more challenging than recording them. I guess that's what they pay you for ! Good stuff.
That burp at 50:06 haha Anyway, amazing drum sound, amazing player . Thank you !
Amazingly informative video. And if this isn't an advert for the SSL bus/desk compressor I don't know what is!
digging the lomo + D19, knicking that
12:09 what mic is that?
Also, LOVE the control room with windows to the outside world!
Oktava ML-16 ribbon mic
Thank you for a great tips
awesome!!!very useful. grazie.
На 11:59 я заметил микрофон ОКТАВА МЛ-16.
He was feeling it at 46:00 for like two seconds and then stopped. Why?
That drum sound is perfect. I wish it was sampled.
I agree let us sample haha
that was so cool and so informative, but man oh man am I upset the multi-tracks are not actually drum multi tracks. I got so excited to play around with all those mics. Idk maybe for next time we could get a print of all the mics. cool song though. and the final drum mix is really unique. so cool, well done.
Great for us. We have challenged ourselves to use budget equipment to record and promote our own album into the UK rock album top 40. Brilliant advice. We are using a portable drum booth, 7 mics and a behringer interface.
Love the song Adrian did of The Subways - It's a Party (Adrian Bushby Remix). Way better than the original!
I've come to a conclusion that in our modern studios we are all always "Looking" at the sound on the monitor. Which isn't how it used to be. And IMHO how it used to be had a lot more sonic pleasantry than a lot of what we are making today. (meaning in the 1960's to 1990's). Our producers were never looking at anything. They were only "LISTENING". I'm not saying there are no great recording sounds coming out now. But I think the focus is being distracted from what it should or needs to be. On the ear.
I agree 100%. There’s something to be said about say a minimalist mic approach and getting a killer sound nonetheless. I’ve never been formally educated in sound engineering but I hope when people learn this trade they’re aware of say the glyn johns technique- 3 mics, that’s all you need sometimes.
"He hates me...blurrp!" 😆
My wife was asking if I was watching some Jamie Olivier's program.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
dang that's an old wired USB Apple mouse that was introduced in the mid 2000's! not a very good one, but enjoyed spotting such an old mouse.
Great VDO. Are you using the mic pre's on the SSL?
'You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!"
This would have been much more helpful if we could see what EQ he is using, preamp levels, etc. I'm sure there are people who have that many channels and mic locker, but this was not terribly relevant to me. I can't afford to set up 30 mics and hope for the best.
Sorry, but sounds tô me as you have all dream gear needed, but dont have a clue what sounds good means. If you need a visual of the Eq, with all parameters settings, your ears are useless.
@3:25 that poor mic stand :-(
00:06
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Ha ha ha ha ha
anyone know where this studio is?
Vada
Evesham Rd, Cookhill, Alcester B49 5LN
i guess it doesn't say anywhere that this is a tutorial so you've covered yourselves there. there are granules of relevent info here but mostly it's general chat. this seems to happen a lot on youtube but i guess i can't complain for free
Is a calculator watch a thing in 2020?
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This is crazy overkill for mics! Hard to see all of them, but I counted around 17-20. I've worked in some great studios and some of the best drum sounds I've ever heard was a single decent ribbon mic being used as a close room mic on the whole kit, thats it, nothing else. This guys specialises in tracking drums and I'm sure he knows more than me. Maybe its just for the purpose of this video, but if an artist/drummer asked me to mic the kit like that I'd probably walk out of the session, nuts!
He clearly states that the reason he does use this many is to give him options
The Sex Pistols had a good number of Mics including Ribbons and 2 Ambient Mics that were hard gated & triggered to open only when the Snare would hit. The key is committing some of the sources to 1 track via comping. If you don't CYA while recording modern-loud as hell Bands correctly, you will spend 6 weeks trying to Mix a Record. I love a Blues Group that I can record live w/my Stereo R88 Ribbon catching 80% of the whole band w/8 other Mics @most, but that's an easy day!
21 by my count . . . on a 4-piece kit. Haha. Still a fun video to watch.
20 mics but only keep one take... generally so I like to have different options depending on the session and drum style. If it is one track maybe only a few extra up. If not like to have most of my fav set ups to work from
Drum tracking and drum sounds are one of the things clients tell me they like most about the sound of my productions. The other thing is how my tracks constantly evolve and never sound boring or same-y for very long. I'm generally using 12-18 mics on drums. I'd use more if I had more inputs available. I'm often tracking bands in some sort of live-ish fashion so some of the inputs have to be dedicated to the rest of the basic tracking.
I'm often using the different mics to create different overall drum sounds at different parts of the song. For example: use a mono close room mic during a verse for my main ambience, pull it out for a tightened prechorus, and bring in the stereo room mics for the chorus. Maybe the last chorus gets really dense so I need some extra poke for the snare drum. Luckily I set up that third snare mic to make sure I got a different picture of the snare sound. Turn the snare shell mic up and all of the sudden there's a better representation of that 700-1.5k to help it speak through a wall of guitars.
Just a couple quick examples for why I go for a significant pile of mics.
50 min to get drum sounds... woof!
I thought I excessively mic’d drums! Lol
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Punk died in that room! How to stamp on the point of everything and record it in easy to follow steps!
With all respect for the engineer... those cymbals are total garbage.
expensive........ u can get a great drum sound with 4 mics...... 2oh, sn n kick........ its just the drums, in my opinion this is madness .......
Bummer... I wish he was a lot more specific as he was monitoring from the desk, telling us which mic/mic combinations he's soloing and hearing back as he's mixing and tweaking them. Otherwise there's no point really, I don't know which mics he's working with as he's messing around on the desk. He'll just say "so I switched the phase on the pairs here"... which pairs? which mics again exactly? ...... it's just not as instructional as I wished it would be, he was too vague and not focused enough on sharing specific details as he was working
This guy seems cool but the big studio stuff seems more and more a relic of the past. Labels don't fund excessive rock albums anymore.