One of the most unlikely European Cup winners ever
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- One of the most unlikely European Cup winners ever
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UEFA Cup Winners Cup 1980/81 went to Dinamo Tbilisi. This was during a period when they also won the Soviet Cup and Soviet Top League. Go back 20 years and the USSR Nations Cup winning side of 1960 had a core of Georgian talent.
This is the story of their rise and, with the fall of communism and the death of their stars, how it collapsed.
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#UEFA #UEFACup #UCL
Time to load up FM, we’ve got a stage to put Georgia back on
Haha great minds think alike mate👌🏼👨💻
Stalin would be proud
Pump the Georgian league by returning Tbilisi to glory and then lead the national team to recognition
That sounds like a fun safe, I´m in. That leads to the question: Timo´s Leagues Megapack or is there a more accurate database for georgian football?
I was just thinking this!
The accurate pronunciations in this video are just.. out of this world!
Are you sure?
Nah, they mispronounced Вишаја лига, it's VishaYA, reversed R is read as YA. And that I in Vishaya is a bit harder than you would have say it
@@nemanjap8768 He pronounced correctly, dz is Georgian letter ძ, pronounced as dz not as j in English or џ in Serbian
@@mashiah1 so it is pronounced as c? Cuz that's what I am hearing
@@noahlewis3710 Yes, I am Georgian and pronouncing and spelling was surprisingly very correct every time
you die twice: when you breathe your last breath and the last time someone remembers your name. tifo keeping these legends alive, as if georgians won’t remember their heroes forever
I mean given what happened to their soccer programs this is the only place keeping them alive
We remember it forever !
By your reckoning, Hitlers immortal.
He is
@@isitchicken yup
The amount of obscure football knowledge I have because of Tifo is insane.
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Never felt more proud to be Georgian. Well done, Tifo. 👏
me too. LOL
Well I'm pretty sure there were one or two moments in Georgian history that woul make you pride
@@MegaAnzora yes there is.
Nowadays we get pounded by Faroese fishermen.
Never would’ve thought I’d see a Tifo video about my hometown and country. Great video about a once great club with interesting stories.
Kipiani by the way is the GOAT. When they beat Liverpool some fan gave him money to congratulate him. He looked at it signed it with his autograph and gave the money back to the fan.
That's a sheer Zlatan moment
Kipiani was Zlatan way before Zlatan
Correct. The Soviet republics didn’t play for the “Russian” side they all played for the Soviet Union national team because it was one country representing all nationalities and ethnicities within the union.
Thank you for pointing it out, I knew that is how the video was going to start by saying they would "play with the Russians" *eyeroll*.
I’ve never heard of David Kipiani before but now his TH-cam highlights look insane
The Georgian national cup is named in his honour
He was insane, if he hadn’t been in ussr he probably would have been one of the best players in the football history
@@td-5374 100%
Because his name was blocked by the central government of the USSR because he was Georgian and not Russian
Real Madrid offered him a contract, but Soviet Union didnt let him go...
Anyone who has been to Georgia will know what a beautiful country it is. Lovely people and even better Food!
I think forest were pretty unlikely winners, mostly with players who'd got them promoted only two seasons earlier
red star belgrade
@@squeaker3087 English teams were banned at the time so it doesn't really count
@@StoutProper oh, of course, it must only count if there are English teams to beat 🙄
@@jmckendry84 Yeah it's not like they had a particularly easy route
@@jmckendry84 English people overrate themselves and teams so much. @Guinness Everything doesn't revolve around English football.
My dad always says the best team he saw beat West Ham at Upton Park was that dinamo tbilisi team. Great work tifo 👍
Interesting and insightful as always. So sad at the end. Didn’t anyone else think the title was a bit click-bait? For clarity, it was European Cup Winners Cup!!!
The thumbnail is pretty straight forward
It's undebatably click-bait.
For clarity, it was the Cup Winners' Cup, not the UEFA Cup!!!
Yeah it was the cup winners cup. A trophy that doesn't exist anymore
TBF The Europacup II (aka Cup Winners Cup) was the second most important cup for international club football, so it wasn't like a shitty glorified trophy like the Intertoto Cup. Most clubs would've loved to win the Europacup II. It's quite the achievement for a club from Georgia to win a big trophy like this one
Oooh, I was reading about Carl Zeiss Jena last night and ended up on to Tbilisi! Really fascinating story, I remember watching Newcastle beat them in the UEFA cup.
Another reasons why we need a 3rd European Cup (big up for the new coming UEFA Conference Cup!) and another reason why UEFA was super stupid to cancel the Cup Winners' Cup and in making - especially on the financial distribution of funds towards certain federations in an inequal way - most of the decisions since 1999 on.
It's super sad to always see the top 5 federations and the same clubs winning trophies. Sad, stupidly planned, inequal and digging distance between clubs in different countries, rather than promoting a good, fair football.
Anecdote: was in Tbilisi and bought a scarf of Dinamo Tbilisi, with written "1980 Cup Winners Cup Winners". Something I am terribly proud of.
End up the last 2 UEFA Conference League was won by representative from big 5 European leagues.
Thanks Tifo for this amazing video ❤❤ I hope one day we will be back 🔵⚪🔵
I once won the Champions League with SC Toulon in FM20. Not meaning to brag but I guess my team should get the recognition they deserve
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Amateur! I took Woking from The Conference to the Champions League in 6 seasons
Respect from Dinamo Bucharest!
Thank you so much for making this video. I don't know about Dinamo Tbilisi but our national team will soon rise 🇬🇪♥️
I have never seen anything look less like Bob Paisley.
As a Georgian thanks for doing this video.
The streets won't forget when Georgia ruled European football
Alan Hansen's initial positioning to be caught out by Kipiani's pass to Gutsaev, ... well it was absolutely shocking.
Shengelia...as a Scotland fan that name sends shivers down my spine 😬
How do you guys even gained the actual story and the chain of events, blows me away. Been listening to Tifo for a while, and it doesn't seem like I will be going away soon. Good content!
Yes! This video made my day, finally a video on the Georgian Golden Age of Football
Thanks for the video from georgian and Liverpool fan :)
Hopefully we'll see them again on the international stage. Georgia is a beautiful country full of wonderful people.
Excellent video. Would also love to see an article regarding the rise and fall of Ararat Yerevan, fascinating story from winning the Soviet title and becoming a competitive European force to a complete non-entity in Armenian football.
The cup winners cup was the competition of the unlikely winners, Dynamo Tbilisi, Aberdeen, Mechelen to name a few
Hell yeah Mechelen.
i remember Russian football TV show used to do these kind of historical bits on legendary players and teams with archive video's and a lot of inside stories that simple people before the internet had no access to. i would watch beautiful clips of Baggio, Ronaldo, Cruyff and then there was Kipiani. it was unbelievable. i dont know what exactly made him so special to me - maybe because you never knew someone coming from these countries could play like that, but he looked out of this world.
a new FM save ideas? let's go boysss
A great watch. Thanks very much.
I grew up in Singapore. One day in 1968 my older brother brought home a football magazine GOAL. I was fascinated by the colour pictures, especially of action from the European Cup final which Manchester United won beating Benfica 4-1. As a young and impressionable boy I read every word in that magazine and was hooked on football since. I remember a couple of years prior to that, neighbors crowding around a black and white television set watching the World Cup. I remember hearing names like Charlton, Moore, Hurst, Beckenbauer, and Overath. Boys in the neighborhood around my age seemed to be fascinated by the game the same time I did. Soon I was regularly playing football with them. Whenever I played, I tried to emulate the stars I read about and watched on TV. Fast forward to recent days. Of all my years following football, the Super League recently proposed is certainly the worst idea of all, primarily because it shuts out so many other clubs that for me make football so diverse and colourful and enjoyable.
as a georgian im proud
Kipiani was incredible.
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Can you do a video on Red Star’s 1991 CL win?
There's already a 30min video on TH-cam about em. Not tifo tho
I wonder how much of an impact rugby had on Georgia's fall in football. This only wants Georgia added to a second division (with/promotion/relegation) of a Six Nations even more. Surely Georgians have a stronger sense of pride in their rugby team these days?
We have pretty big faith in Rugby National Team, League isnt best here, there are lots of problems yet just like in Football League.
This is why I'm subscribed to Tifo... what a story!
I saw the title and immediately knew it was Dinamo Tbilisi. Steau Bucharest was a fleeting guess as well
Still more European cups than Manchester City, Arsenal, Spurs, Combined.
Not true. Both Arsenal and Spurs have won the UEFA European Cup Winner's Cup. However, as it no longer exists as a competition people think it doesn't count as a European trophy.
@@ayeready6050 Spurs have won the Europa League twice, in 1972 and 1984.
@@georgiosioannispappas Didn't know that. Thanks. My team, Rangers have won the European Cup Winner's Cup so it annoys me when people ignore it.
If only we weren't in Soviet Union our FootBallers would be remembered as Legends worldwide.
Guys as always I am humbled. I appreciate the knowledge. Keep up the great work.
Tifo, can you do a video about liquidated clubs and which clubs you predict to dissolve (mainly those currently participating in the EFL) in the next few years. Would make an interesting video.
Another stellar piece of work from Tifo.
WC 1982, USSR Vs Brazil. 4 Georgians in starting eleven. Included Captain Chivadze. ♥
i've been watching this channel for over a year now and would never have though that my country could get video here, im proud and thankful to you. amazing content keep it up
Our pleasure!
I thought I was going to be Steaua Bucharest.
Rather Red Star Belgrade. Steaua was true powerhouse at its height.
@@psykkomancz not really. Steaua's 85-86 EC win really came out nowhere. For the previous five seasons they had only played one European fixture, an elimination in a first round of the Cup Winners' Cup. During that period, the prominent teams were Dinamo Bucharest and U Craiova.
@@alexandrumircea Thank you for explaining. Judging by the name, you are from Romania, so i take your word :)
Steaua Bucharest were a good side in the mid 2000’s, would have been in a UEFA Cup Final in 2006 if it wasn’t for middlesborough and a crazy semi final 2nd leg!
@@alexandrumircea Craiova played a eufa cup final against real Madrid.
Great video , there's one mistake Liverpool lost to Dinamo in first round of European cup 1979/1980 not 78/79 .I remember Liverpool losing to Dinamo T listening to first leg In 1979 .
Thank you for a nice video on Dinamo Tbilisi.. good to know.. Please make a video on Red Star Belgrade and the players it produced including my favourite Dragan Stojkovic
Stalin must be so proud of his home country...
No, he has no home country other then USSR. He literaly gave away half of our lands.
@@wierdo-jc7xv bro... He was georgian
@@wierdo-jc7xv In my opinion, I think he's proud of what his people had acheived
@@jeffreyrosenfeld7543 yeah he was Georgian, but he wan not patriotic at all. If he was proud to be a Georgian he would not kill hundreds of thouthands of our people and give away half og Georgias land.
They've got the dates wrong - the Liverpool and West Ham games were both a year later than stated here, 1979-80 and 1980-81. I remember the West Ham game - brilliant play by DT
Very clear to me that the USSR's emphasis on sport produced some serious top talents
You also need a society were young people can afford to devote themselves to sports and not risk destroying your life
Are u going to explain the uefa conference league
What an amazing channel
We need a Dinamo Zagreb history of the marvellous win of the Fairs Cup of 67
And to top it off, their opponents in the final were also pretty unlikely winners, won't you say?
Hopefully they will play in the UEFA Conference League. Good to see great clubs in european competitions.
I don't think Bob Paisley ever had that much hair even when he had hair.
Would love a video on Ipswich 1981 win in Europe or their decline from the top flight
The final played in Dusseldorf was poorly attended, due to both finalists being behind the 'Iron Curtain' and fan travel was extremely difficult from Georgia and East Germany respectively.
Well this explains where on earth Khvicha came from
How did Nottingham Forest will two champions league? 🤔
Brian Clough
Because Brian Clough is the greatest football manager of all time
Hope, athletic will make a video of “how Nottingham won 2 CL”.
@@deckyy6761 Hard to say all time for me. It is because he ain't great at his late coaching years (maybe due to psychological sickness). But I think his was the greatest at his peak.
largely with the same players who'd got them promoted 2 seasons earlier
Mikhel Meskhi is annoyingly similar do Lionel Messi.
Young vlad: I want messi on our team!
Babushka: we have messi on our team.
Messi on our team:
Not
@@Andrey-up3qw Georgia is not a Slavic country, so the joke makes no sense. Still funny tho.
Or other way around 😉
@@Andrey-up3qw Georgia isn't Slavic country ;)
The game animations are looking more and more like the in-game 2D classical view of Football Manager. :-D
Make a video on best players who would be Brilliant if not for coaches
Joe Cole?
If you’re putting up videos on sole european cup winners of countries,please do a video on Galatasaray’s 2000 europa league run!
I love your history videos, you should do more of these.would it be possible to show actual footage or use real photos?
Please do RED STAR BELGRADE !!!!
Tifo must put this kind of history
I would love to see a video like this about IFK Gothenburg that won the UEFA cup in 82 and 87.
Love Dinamo! Respect between most Dynamo Sports Society teams, like Kyiv, Zagreb, Tbilisi, Levski Sofia (formerly Dinamo Sofia), Minsk etc...
Just trying to imagine Joe's script for this video full of accent marks and hyphenenated syllables to aid pronunciation - cheers for the effort and a great video as always!
Do a video of leeds and GFH capital and what happened with david haigh. Very intersting story.
Greetings from Jena
Tifo x Cold War Era History
One of your best videos ever
Nottingham Forest. From the second division one year to the next winning the league and European Cup. That’ll never happen again.
I think If Leicester City, the club that struggle to avoid relegation in 2014-15 to win the league in 2015-16, managed to win the UCL back in 2016-17, that would be historic after Nottingham Forest
Really enjoyable but any fair minded Liverpol fan seeing Dinamo in 1979 at Anfield-we won 2-1, how I don't know-wasn't at all surprised when dinamo won the Cup Winners Cup. One of those matches you never ever forget, they were so so good.
Im Georgian, thank you ❤️
Tifo will you please make a video about Bob Paisley and his achievements, I almost never hear any football channels give him any recognition.
Can you do a video on the 1986 Steaua Bucuresti side that won the European Cup? I'd enjoy a video on that.
Next episode either Magdeburg or Mechelen
Can you do a video about the Videoton SC side that were finalists in the 1984-85 Uefa Cup?
Moral of the story,
Never drive in Georgia.
You know, you could really look up the image of Soviet Cup trophy and not come up with a ridiculous over the top image. It's actually really beautiful and was made out of crystal. Both RPL and Cup trophies until recently were made out of crystal rather than usual metal.
Liverpool played Tbilisi in the 79/80 season. We won the European cup in 78
EUROPA LEAGUE/ UEFA CUP CSKA MOSCOW 2005 LISABON
Can you do 1986 UCL winner Steaua Bucharest ? A very surprising and interesting story !
Dinamo beat Liverpool in 1979, not 78, and the Reds weren't holders, but English champions
Make a video on how uefa cup winners cup came to being.
Great video!! Next video Steaua winning champions league!
I know this is a long shot but anyway you could do some videos on MLS when the season starts?
Thought this would be about real madrid
*clicks on the video*
Its dinamo tbilisi but there’s no way people are gonna talk about a georgian team.
I was so surprised
could you do a video about the Gothenburg side that won the europa league twice? (uefa cup)
David Kipiani is good. Had I kept myself away from McDonald's I would've been in top flight leagues by now.
This was quite depressing.
Can you make a video on Gerrard's tactics this season?
Steaua is also a weird ucl winner
David Kipiani looking like Borat