How the Cold War ended the golden age of Hungarian football
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- Our historical documentary series on the history of the Cold War continues with a video on the golden age of Hungarian Football. The team was considered one of the best in history, but was dispersed throughout the world as a result of the Hungarian Revolution and it being stamped out by the USSR
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I truely love this channel for picking up such topics as Hungarian football during the Cold War.
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I knew Hungary was a great team in this era but didn't know the political struggle the team had.
This show is not telling you the real story.
What is the true story then?
The Brazilian Golden Generation (1958-1970) has its links to the Hungarian one. Honved, while in its 1957 Brazilian Tour, was coached by Guttman Béla, who was approached by São Paulo FC and took charge of that team for the remaining 1957 season.
Vicente Feola, who managed the club before, was assigned to work as Guttman's assistant. Using then-revolutionary 4-2-4 formation and lead by the aging star Zizinho, São Paulo won the league and it helped to popularise the Hungarian School of tactics in the country.
Guttman was signed by Benfica in the next year, becoming a legendary manager in the Portuguese club.
Feola, on its side, was selected by CBF to take charge of Brazil's national football team ahead of the 1958 World Cup. Until 1958, Brazil had always failed on international stage, including the 1950's Maracanazo and the infamous "Battle of Bern" against the Hungarians in 1954.
In 1958, Brazil was not even expected to get out of the group stages, as it was put in a group with three European powerhouses: Austria, England, and the mighty USSR. But the 4-2-4 Hungarian formation worked like magic in a team that had very skilled attacking players as Didi, Garrincha, and a 17-years-old Pelé. Brazil, then, won the World Cup imposing, in the final stages, 5-2 defeats to a great French team and a very good Swedish side playing at home (Sweden defeated West Germany in the semi-finals).
This was the worst thing to happen to happen to Hungary during the Cold War - Everyone pre 1956
Lol
The mighty magyars,what a legendary team
Incredible yes and as a Liverpool fan I remember many clashes against their top sides, with the addition of the Cold War it became a visceral identity defining era.
You need to do a video on the Hungarian - Soviet 1956 Olympic water polo game The so called blood in the water game
West Germany wasn´t doping, they just ate alot of Panzerschoki.
Schnitzel!!!
Und StukaTabletten
Great video! Fun fact: the highest Elo (Élő) rating of all time ever reached by a national team is still held by the Mighty Magyars at 2231 reached in June 30, 1954. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Football_Elo_Ratings#Highest_average_over_entire_team_history). By the way the "Miracle of Bern", the WC final lost against West Germany is still regarded as one of the great national tragedies of Hungary.
As its regarded as a wonder here in Germany. As a half German, half Magyar I just find it interesting how it went down in the national mythology and identity politics!
It was a real good and strategically brilliant decision from the west german team manager.
The hungarians also played with the germans during group stage; and by then they won by 8:3!
The manager let his top players rest on that match. After that they reached the easier branch of the knock out stage.
With more rest and lighter enemies to overcome; the germans had the advantage...
@@000neuro4 Nobody talking about the 1954 german teams in the world, they are the pervetin-champions, or the drug-winners. The only case, when Hitler-speed gave victory to the germans...:xD The moral victor is that Hungarian team, and if the FIFA would be not corrupt, they could gave the posthumus vitory to Hungary, and take back from West-Germany. Sepp Herberger was a criminal, not a genious, better to know!
Ah finaly a German victory on this channel, that feels good.
The World Cup was incredibly important for us, some are even refering to it as a second founding date of West Germany.
Btw our team was not even close of beeing a tournament favorite, reaching the finale was already a surprise.
I do feel a little bit sorry for the Hungarians though, the generation would have deserved to win at least one World Cup, such a shame what happened to the team afterwards :(
All German wins feel good!
The referee was against the Hungarian team. He called a Puskas goal as off-line, which it wasn't. Everybody knew the Hungarian team was better. They had smashed the German team before.
Well, you don't need to sorry that Hungarian teem, because they are still in the talk, as you see in this video. But nobody talking about the 1954 german teams in the world, they are the pervetin-champions, or the drug-winners. The only case, when Hitler-speed give victory to the germans...:xD The moral victor is that Hungarian team, and if the FIFA would be not corrupt, they could gave the posthumus victory to Hungary, and take back from West-Germany.
How can you feel good about a win which wasn't deserved at all? 😂😅
Interresting how much but-hurtness one encounters in response to a comment that isn’t even written in an offensive manor. Hungary was robbed in 1942, 46 and 50 because non sports reasons prevented a WC from being held or Hungary participating, when they had a very good team too and may have won it. In 1954 they were not robbed tho.
Thank you for calling it football! Keep up the good work :)
I call it football because I grew up calling it that. Most of my friends however call it soccer and that is 100% OK as well!
Football 🏈
Soccer ⚽️
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Soccer Schmoccar!
@@badluck5647 1st emoji=Handegg 2nd emoji=football //World cup 58 loss in the final vs Pelé
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Love the insightful topics! There's lot more to know about times like the cold war than just the us-ussr rivalry.
My father is from Yugoslavia and he always told stories how Hungarians were great players in this time...Hungarian national team were called light calvary...
My mom laughed because you can say their names correctly.
is she laughing in a good way or just laughing at me? ;-)
@@TheColdWarTV Obviously we can hear you are not Hungarian, and there are a few smaller mistakes here and there, but overall you are very good at pronouncing them. Impressive, grats!
@@TheColdWarTV It's obvious that a lot of effort went into getting the pronunciation right. I've never heard so many difficult Hungarian names/words pronounced so well by someone who doesn't actually speak the language. Thank you for investing time in researching that as well :)
Big props also for taking the time and effort to pronounce the names so correctly! And also saying the names in the Hungarian style with the surname first. Was a lovely detail to notice!
köszönöm!
Great summary. I met Puskas as a kid when he was managing the Egyptian team in the early 80’s, he was aquatinted with my parents. A class act even years after retirement.
Thank you man!🇭🇺
The Hungarians continued with their winning streak during the 60's : Olympic Football Champions in both 1964 & 1968 ; quarter finals at the 1966 World Cup with such unforgettable players as Flórián Albert , Ferenc Bene , János Farkas & Kálmán Mészöly. They reappeared in Argentina in 1978 , where unfortunately they had to contend with the strongest teams of that competition ( Argentina , Italy & France ). The Magyars have a tradition of football - art , that is dearly missed these days. I sure hope to see them again among the best in the world , where they definitely belong.
Hungarian football we'll be great again soon! 🔥🔥🇭🇺
Ferenc Puskás is stll considered one of the few great footballers ever to work in Greece , even as a coach. "n 1971, he guided Panathinaikos of Greece to the European Cup final, the only time a Greek club has reached a European final to date. In the qualifying rounds they beat Everton in the quarter-finals on away goals, then defeated Red Star Belgrade in the semis. In the final Panathinaikos lost 2-0 to Johan Cruyff's Ajax.[40] During his four-year tenure at Panathinaikos, Puskás helped the team secure one Greek Championship in 1972. "
He must have loved Greeks because he also coached South Melbourne Hellas. I met him once, in a Hungarian butcher shop in Melbourne.
As a football fan, I'll have to re-watch this. I was too busy watching the goals...
That said, loved the VAR joke at the end. Keep up the great work, folks!
football is a way of life and your team is forever!
As for VAR, the FA needs to sort that out; tired of Scouse getting away with obviously dodgy calls ;)
@@TheColdWarTV Couldn't agree more. About the VAR.. I don't know, I'd like to think it's still try and error, but we'll see.
Cheers from Argentina, folks! Have a great weekend!
My team West Ham Utd, had a successful period in the min 1960s, our manager at the time Ron Greenwood, was a hug admirer of Hungarian football of the 50s and used their style as a template.
I've seen enough Hammers supporters claim that THEY won the 1966 World Cup to know this is true ;)
A huge respect for you for pronouncing the names and club names correctly! (or at least trying)
And also for the work that you put into this video!
Although Puskas never became as good a coach as a player he is always remembered for his accomplishments with Panathinaikos. One of the greatest football personalities ever.
Thanks for covering these more esoteric events of the Cold War. Sports was a major influencer during Cold War but we often overlook it. I hope you will cover also the 1969 Czechoslovak hockey riots after Czechs beat Soviet Union soon after Prague Spring. And the game itself, of course.
That was really great! I really appreciate the political/historic context of a team that I heard about and admired during my childhood. As a side story, I knew about a team in New York City made up of Hungarian refugees from the 56' revolution that toured Europe, beating many 1st division clubs throughout Europe. Of course named, The New York Hungarians. I knew some of the players, I played football with their sons.
Great memories 👌
That was like listening to my grandfather, father, and uncles talking about the old "squad". My grandfather and father always talked about Puskas and Grosics and how they were such a great players and how much of a loss of such key players were to Hungarian soccer. My father played goal keeper and used the tactics of Grosics to keep net. Though my dad has passed away, old timers from his league still talk about my father's great goal keeping. He always credited Grosics. Thanks for the great (as always) vlog.
Great video today keep it up you're doing amazing job
man why did u have to end the golden age of hungarian football
David, you're obviously a lover of the Beautiful Game. Which Club do you support? Oh, and it was nice to hear Hungarian names presented in the proper order.
As a Dutchman I can totally sympathize with forever being the bridesmaid.
Such a nice surprise! Thank you man!
I just love the fact that your calling it on it's proper name..so thank you!😢
I call it football because I grew up calling it that! Soccer is 100% acceptable also!
If someone is interested, the match that was played in 1953, at Wembley Stadium (6:3) was remastered a few months ago. Although It has a new modern, hungarian commentary, and the original sound was remade manually to sound better.
Great Video! Thanks! Surprisingly good pronunciation of the names! :)
köszönöm!
Kíváló videó David! Sok ilyet még! :)
Köszönöm!
I love fooball and history. I know about the mighty magyars and the cold war in general (of course). But somehow it never occured to me that one's demise was caused by the other's being in a full swing
So glad you covered this the impact this had on Hungarian football is still felt today, some really good books on it to like you say Jonathan Wilsons :the names heard long ago and David Bailey. Magical Maygars are great
Also great choice of book on the desk 👌 wilsons stuff is brilliant
One more thing about the 1954' World Cup final. More than referees or other reasons, the media talk historically about the new German boots provided by Adi Dassler and suited for mud (not grass) as the main reason West Germany could stand in front of the Hungarians and beat them
ADI DASsler, you know.
Years before the Honved affair, in 1949, one of the best players of the century, Lazslo Kubala, ran away from Hungary, spent more than a year in a refugees camp in Italy, and joined a team of refugees, Hungaria, which played friendly matches on Western countries. Finally, Barça signed him and he became the greatest legend of the Club until Cruyff and later Messi arrived.
Please The Cold War! do a video about The Volksmarine along with the Polish People's Navy and the Soviet Navy!
I beg you. I want you to talk about the Torpedo/Missile Boats
Yep lets talk Torpedo/Missile boats from the different Baltic nations :) Especially the Willemoes-class fast attack craft. Lot of Daka daka and speed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMS_Sehested_(P547)
People who went abroad and were sucsessful there and either never came back or came back to retire is a divisive topic. Some say they arent Hungarian until they achieve something, others know you cant be sucsessful internationally in such country. my parents stand with the first thing i mentioned, i stand with the second statement
Plenty of good Cold War sports stories to be had, for example:
Blood in the Water (1956 Olympic water polo match between USSR and Hungary during the uprising)
Ice Hockey in general (Miracle on Ice, Summit Series, Flyers vs Red Army)
Cuban baseball and Major League Baseball (in regards to the defectors)
Olympic boycotts and counter-boycotts
Also the fatal decision of England football federation that lead to the longest ban of England from World Cup and other tournament hosted by FIFA
They were nicknamed "Light cavalry" in Yugoslavia,maybe in other countries too.
Hungary simply demolishes West Germany in the group stage, 8-3 being the final score, only for them to lose against the same team in the final, 3-2.
They came so close but felt short of their objective.
To be fair, German coach Herberger fielded the B-Team in the group stage, he suspected that Germany would not have a chance anyway, so he chose to give the A-Team a break.
Still incredible outcomes though
@@BeWe1510 Absolutely.
Ah but England was another league!
@@DaveSCameron In what way?
@@romelnegut2005 2 world wars and a world cup kinda thing.. ⚽😎
The pronunciations are impressive!
No British football expert/fan to this day is ignorant of the crushing national team defeats to the magical magyars .
As a Brazilian, I am marveled by this episode ! I never read anything about it in Brazil !
Thank you very much !
Now this is a nicely informative video. I would like to see more video's on how other aspects of daily life were affected by the Cold War. For their have been many. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
For anyone interested in this, The Names Heard Long Ago (as cited) is really recommended. If you like this channel you'd enjoy it, even if you're not that interested in football.
It's about football, but not *really* about football (or not just *just* about football).
VVery nice!
Well done
I hope they make an episode about the Czechoslovakia - USSR Ice Hockey games at the world championship 1969.
Great video, which could give idea for similar one: Tampere, Olympic Games in Helsinki, USSR-Yugoslavia in the height of the tension between two countries. Later on, both of them will play huge role on European Championship (USSR will win one, Yugoslavia will be twice the finalist), but then degraded catastrophically as well as their countries later on (see WC for YUG 74, 82 with its last hooray in 90, and 86 for USSR).
In about 1992, I met an older man who was a customer of a Hungarian delicatessen that I lived near in St Kilda, Melbourne Australia. I can't remember why I got into a conversation with him. It might have been because Hungarian delicatessens were not exactly common and I mentioned to the owner that I had a Hungarian pen pal, which he overheard. Or the owner introduced me to him for the same reason. In any case, he told me he had been in the Golden Team in the 1950s. His name didn't mean anything to me at the time but I have since realised it was probably Puskás Ferenc, because, at the time, Puskás Ur was coaching the South Melbourne Hellas team, only a few miles away and there can't have been too many other members of the team in Melb.
How about the Hungarian Soviet water polo match in other word Blood in the Water
I am so glad you said football instead of soccer as a American
Well done as always Cold War and Kings & Generals! I love these looks into the non-military/spy aspects of the Cold War. I’m looking forward to future videos on competitive chess during the Cold War, the 1956 Melbourne Olympics, the 1968 Mexico City Olympics, USA/Chinese ping-pong diplomacy, the Moscow 1980 Olympics and 1984 Los Angeles Olympics + MacDonalds fiasco (which inspired a famous Simpsons episode subplot).
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It would be amiss, or rather, a misnomer to say Hungarian football had nothing to do with military. Puskás was a member of the Athletic Squad, and out of necessity had good relation with the ÁVO, and had a hand in smuggling much needed goods into the country which had to be waived through thanks to the team's quasi diplomatic status.
Congrets for your hungarian pronunciation!
köszönöm!
I smell the next big sports movie
Wow you actually pronounce the names correctly.
Damn, the pronunciation of the names were surprisingly good
I agree.
Football doesn't seem to be played much now at the local level in Hungary, where my wife comes from, or at least not at the intensity of Aussie Rules Football in Australia, where I come from.
Some nice football references there, "it's a funny old game"
This was an awesome video.
Incredible. 😊😊😊😊
Is it true that Puskas was reported dead in the riots by a French newspaper?
it was the French News Service, AFP, that reported him dead. It was clarified with 24 hours but apparently didn't stop Real supporters from holding signs saying “De Entre Los Muertos” (“Back From The Dead”) after he joined Madrid.
@@TheColdWarTV I did a little research on that issue after seeing the movie "Silent revolution" but I couldn't find much about it.
Thanks.
Could you do a video on the Football War?
5:45 - well nothing seems to have changed for Ferencváros in that regard, lol.
Although Yugoslavia didn't participate in 1934 and 1938 World Cups, it was still a respectable football association even in pre-war period. Semifinals in 1930 World Cup and being 3rd overall proves this fact (in official documents it says Yugoslavia was 4th, however, unofficial game had been played vs USA where Yugo won). Also it is worth mentioning that Yugoslavia beat Brazil 8-4 in 1934.
Would have been cool to have a Hungarian team here in Mexico.
I have a feeling someone's read Jonathan Wilson's book about Hungarian football 😉
People often forgot how Hungary was one of the biggest teams in the world in football, for managers to players, heck, Benfica won European cups with Hungarian manager, which was working for a team in which was the poster boy for the authoritarian right wing colonialist power (Portugal) with semi fascist elements.
"pre-Zlatan swedish team"
my father was in hungary's soccer program for 8 years, me, I was the best player in my country
Someone didn't get a sponsorship from Audible xD
What's the name of the music you use?
ehheeh use Shazam
football and the cold war are SO CONECTED. At least here in south america.
Bojler eladó!
mennyibe kerül?
@@TheColdWarTV Whaaat you speek hungarian? Or Google translateter is your frind? Its certanitly black magic...
Nem beszélek magyarul. Túl nehéz megtanulni rendesen!
But the "Bojler elado" reference is too good; As a Canadian, we always point out and take pride every time we see Canada talked about on big TV shows or movies
@@TheColdWarTV You have very good pronanciation compered to other history youtuber
Köszönöm! i lived in Budapest, many many years ago so have some practice with pronunciation.
Can you cover the 1980 miracle on ice?
Nice
No Telegram Channel?
If I want to watch a game go 0-0 for the entire game I'd watch "football" AKA SOCCER.
How come we don't get to know David's last name?
Time Ghost lite
"The beatifull game" Hokey? :))))
Puskas Ferenc or Ferenc Puskas, etc.?
Hungarian naming conventions put the family name first. So the correct order would be Puskás Ferenc, though most of the world uses Ferenc Puskás.
@@razvanmazilu6284 Thank you, my friend. I didn't know either it's Puskás and not Puskas, and I'm from Spain
By the way, it's Athletic Club de Bilbao, but in Franco's years, all names and denominations were forced to be written only in Spanish words. That' s the reason of saying in the 50s Atlético de Bilbao
@sobrevalorado thank you for that piece of information! I don't really follow Spanish football so that is interesting to note
@@sobrevalorado my pleasure! We've got a fair few Hungarians living in Romania, plus I have a bit of Hungarian blood myself, so I'm pretty familiar with the names.
please talk about poland :)
Now that NFL, MLB, NBA and American Soccer are all getting politicized, I can expect history to repeat itself.
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Not just a game
Speaking as a (West) German, the Hungarians were robbed at what we call the "Wunder von Bern". Don't get me started on Wembley 1966 though.
As an Englishman with both Hungarian and British citizenship I respect your honesty.
GGGGOOOOLLLLL!!!!!
England ruled then and continues to be the boss in war and footy today. ⚽
Some of that famous English sarcasm I see.
@@nutyyyy Well spotted my mate 🍻 always a let down...
The secret police team, and the army team. Lol that's not troubling at alllll.
If Soviet union hadn't invaded Hungary in 1956, Hungary would've been strong soccer nation thus today..as many of you know, 1956, whole Hungarian Youth national team defected to Begium, and many promising athletes escaped to other European countries including Puskas went to Spain, and gained Spanish citizenship.
As an American I,m so lost here😉
Nobody talking about the 1954 german teams now in the world, they are the pervetin-champions, or the drug-winners. The only case, when Hitler-speed gave victory to the germans...:xD The moral victor is that Hungarian team, and if the FIFA would be not corrupt, they could gave the posthumus victory to Hungary, and take back from West-Germany. Sepp Herberger was a criminal, not a genious, better to know.
A magyar aranycsapatról szól és nincs magyar fordítás pedig kiváncsi vagyok...
Because none of us speak Hungarian to be able to translate it
@@TheColdWarTV That isn't the entire issue, though. Finding reliable transcribers requires not just people who speak Hungarian as a mother language level and a well-versed in sports history, but they also need to be people who're objective. Under Rákosi delivering wins for the Eastern Bloc was a necessity so the pressure of winning or disappearing in a reeeducation camp was high (and sadly many of my compatriots concern themselves with the wins, and not how they were achieved).
Be advised, but possibly you already know this, the prime minister has been an amateur footballer, throws a ton of money at Hungarian football, and failed to condemn Neo Nazi elements among supporters, so they view criticism of past and present Hungarian football as a direct attack on the nation.
In the 60s Hungarian football was a lot stronger than some think. Pretty poor research, the evidence is there.
Not poor; little bit inaccurate
If the european cup would be further organised; Honvéd or Bàstya fc would have reached; at least the semi finals several times!
Unluckily the uprising came and the most important members of the team left Hungary.
Pre-zlatan Swedish team 😂😂
Sorry, ahem, cough, guten Tag! W e ended the golden era of Hungarian football. 🤭 Just said. For them just sad 🤷.
Dear David, Dear staff of Cold War,
Here's a not so unimportant detail why Ferencváros up until easement in the 1960s was shunned: it's because after the war, fueled by Realpolitik, the opportunistic members of the former and then illegal Arrow Cross Party switched sides over to them under Péter Gábor's direction. The socialist bloc, of course, wanted to paint an image that no communist could be a rabid antisemitic, or would support antisemitic behavior. Well...
The reality was that the rivalry between MTK and Ferencváros never seized, and periodically the MSZMP (the Hungarian Socialist Workers' Party) published eyes only (nowadays researchable and declassified) reports on some of the most vile behavior that Ferencváros supporters professed, especially when they played against MTK. Now, unlike with the Polish pogrom of 1968 that led to a limited an exceptional aaliyah into Israel, Kádár's regime never officially acknowledged such sentiments.
The Golden Team needed reliable communists (or at least people who on paper were team players for the regime) who had the fervor to combat against the imperialists and the reactionary Yugoslavians, so there was zero chance that any former fascist, regime supporter or collaborator could play.
That said... 1956 has some small footnotes. For one, HVG's archive contains an article about homelessness in 1956 and subsequent civil lawsuits against squatters in 1959, where the regime sided with squatters, citing that the plaintiffs expressed a desire to "illegally leave Hungary without returning and thus forfeiting their right to property", and another one tangentially tied to the topic of the video.
Many of us know that the Kádár regime had people who were victims of the Rákosi regime, but they also didn't shy away from doing unethical things (like the 1959 Traiskirchen fake Red Cross workers attempt on minors to convince them to return to Hungary, either lying to kids that their parents returned, or that they left them forever and it's better for them to come home). There was one person the late Rákosi regime wanted being in Hungary, and not under coercion. I am talking about the actor Páger Antal, who was a collaborator of the short-lived Arrow Cross regime as a propagandist and at the time lived in Argentina. The regime made 2 attempts of bringing him home, the first was unsuccessful as back then, if I recall correctly Stalin was still alive and Páger still had stage performances. When the second attempt came around, Páger's options became limited and the regime too sought legitimization.
A small of group of Jewish Holocaust survivors protested before the designated home of Páger's, demanding that the regime abandons its quest to bring him home, but they were ignored, and in the summer of '56, Páger returned to Hungary. The censorship machine of Aczél György suppressed discussing Páger's history save for his then rehabilitated filmography (except the ones he made for the Arrow Cross Party).
If possible, I would love to see a future video on the attempts made by the Eastern Bloc to politicize the post-Nuremberg capture and conviction of former Nazis, like the initial joint Czechoslovakian-Polish-Hungarian-Soviet proposal to extradite Eichmann to them instead of keeping him in Israel.
Thanks Àkos, I have an old poster here in the UK of a film starring Antal Pàger. I had no idea about his Arrow Cross connections.
It’s good to learn something new about Hungary.