Meanwhile, in the conservative party referring to black people as "piccanninies" and "water melon smiles" is just a stepping stone toward becoming Prime minister. Oh, wait...
I wish Luciana berger would name names and identify actions. After this report on c4 news I am none the wiser of what corbyn has said and done that is antisemitic.
@@Blaze-sz1no so u must b counting your lucky starz then, or r u counting down the days when a much worse report condemns your party/h8 group: not that it would make much of a difference in this backwards cuntree!
Also notice how there is no mention of the leaked report that detailed how senior staff within Corbyn's party intentionally hampered and delayed anti-Semitic investigations as a way of sabotaging him.
@@jessepferr2814 How does it feel to be brain washed by Billionaires that would sooner see you suffer & die than tell the truth on anything? Oh you wouldn't know you're brain washed...
@@Joekd6.1 the queen bowed her head in memory of IRA rebels killed in the Irish war of independence! Using your rationale that makes her a terrorist sympathizer ??
@@chrisj9700 you know that by being on the youtube platform makes YOU a kkk, nazi supporter because theres people on here that DO support those ideas? ya know, according to the logic youve been displaying here over n over
@Deep Thought just goes to show how much Corbyn and Labour were hated that people like my grandad voted Torie my grandad an old miner. Labour are finished they only care about Palestine.
What’s nonsensical about it Matt under his watch the Labour Party were found to have broken the law. Kier spoke with Jeremy the night before about the repercussions for those who deny the findings of the report. What choice was he left with?
thats it I will cancel my membership I will not give this New labour and Stammer my hard earned money. JC should now start a socialist Labour party I would join.
@@cinderball1135 It's not just the fact it's Corbyn, he could be doing this stuff to any of Labour's members and it'd be just as much of a farce. That's right, the left need to abandon the party en mass and form a new political movement with some decency and integrity at it's core, not the tepid bilge water Starmer has brought to Labour. Best of luck with project Blair Mk2... oh and if you think that's the last you'll hear of it think again, the sniping will go on and on now
because you oppose the systematic oppression by Israel of Palestinians, you are then rendered as anti-Semitic. I find this pathetic and extremely childish. Anti Semitism has just become a very useful tool to be used by professional victims, to get where you want!
There aren’t many things that make me proud to be English, but Corbyn is one of them. Let’s be honest, anyone who criticises Israel for war crimes/crimes against humanity will immediately be labelled as anti Semitic.
@@benstevinson764 I mean if you want. Socialism doesn't care much for equity or social mobility. There's plenty out there that is better than socialism. Some economic policies like ubi. But certainly along freemarket
Feinstein's a sound guy. Grateful that they gave him some airtime and in doing so acknowledged that there's more nuance to this issue than is typically accorded to it.
@matthew-t9k At least Corbyn never left his wife with cervical cancer, for his mistress, fooked up the country and left us in war with Russia! Ramped up energy prices at the same time that has led to inflation that is NEVER going down. lol
Labour people /working class have been homeless since Blaire...and now we are completely without a home since JC has left along with Rebecca Long Bailey. We are now more like america, which means you can slip a Rizla paper between Labour and Conservative,
Corbyn is the Trump of the left his supporters dont let facts get in the way of their adulation. Corbyn hid child abuse in Islington council, he is a c$%t.
@@vinayn9110 I never said he was perfect... I'm not F££king perfect, and I definitely know you're not perfect, because of your bad tempered, hard man response. Get a grip and calm down.
@@emm_arr Hey Phukwit, are you listening, even the press are saying Starmer is missing own goals. Precisely what I said, there is no difference between Tories and New labour now after Corbyn has left. You Gobby idiot!!!
I believe in Kier but this is a ridiculous move, out of all that Jeremey Corbyn has said this is such a non-controversy. Why is it that Labour has to keep on apologizing for an issue they’ve worked very hard to solve. While Islamapobia is so flourishing within the Conservative party?
Islamapobia? What is that exactly? Why does being critical of or disagreeing with a belief system/set of ideas label me as 'islamaphopic'? I find it especially offensive today when another 'believer' hacked off a woman's head in France. Allah u Akbar!
There's a difference between criticising islam for being a political system with a supernatural dimension, and criticising muslims themselves. Likewise it should be possible to criticize Israel without being called an antisemite. There is, though, an element of the left that is blatantly anti semitic and Corbyn tries to cover that up.
I still don't understand how people haven't seen this 'playing for electability' to be a toxic game that plays a big role in our society's descent into complete dysfunction. Because of it political narratives are clunky, half-real, silly dramas that hardly have any relevance to actually solving issues as they genuinely exist. Get a simple message to get to a large enough minority of the inattentive electorate, and you're in power. Starmer is playing this dumb game, like the utter stiff he is. It'll get you in, in the short term, maybe, but it's not what any serious politician who actualy cares will do. Tell me it's 'the way it is' and has to be played this way, if you want, but it's heading for doom. Do real politics, stay unpopular, take it slow, but at least you're on a real path. It's the only way. The wrong way is the wrong way, even if it gets you 'somewhere' quicker. The shallows will always be the shallows. The dumbed-down version will always be dumbed down. Such a fucking frustrating yawn-fest.
Conspiracy against those who question the hate state and want to hold it to account. If you still don't recognise who holds power over UK political ruling classes then so be it!
@Mr Porter Only an idiot posts a random TH-cam clip and expects it to be followed. No doubt it is some anti-Israeli propaganda. You clowns are so easy to spot and too easy to beat.
How shameful that Jeremy Corbyn was treated so abominably. Speaking the truth of Israel’s poor human rights treatment of Palestinians is not anti semitic.
@@middleeast.timeforpeace.7304 he anti-zionist, not anti-semetic. YOU of all people should understand the difference, or have u bought the line that anti-zionists believe israel should be destroyed? anti-zionists believe the zionist israeli government needs to be stopped from it's apartheid murder n brutality n theft of land that was NEVER within the borders when israel was created post ww2 Its like they've all got generational trauma over there and acting out what the nazi's did to them upon the weaker palestinians, just like school bullies do
More likely he'll be remembered as one of the worst leaders of the opposition in British political history. You know.. just going on the stats. Worst Labour defeat in nearly a century & all that.. 😉
@@middleeast.timeforpeace.7304 The only thing Corbyn is good for is handing out leaflets at the local train station. I'm glad he's out. I only hope Starmer is strong enough to keep Corbyn out. Corbyn still has a lot of supporters in Labour, mainly Momentum. I left Labour 2 years ago because I could see the cult they were becoming. I've hated seeing my old party being ripped up.
@M B Do you support North Korea and China's abominable government? With your logic criticising their human and democratic rights offenses would constitute as hatred of Korean/Chinese people. It's a lazy and illogical conflation. If I abhor the actions of the UK/Lithuanian government (I do abhor the UK government) I must be racist towards myself as a Lithuanian Brit I guess 🤦♂️
@M B What do you mean by "muslim problem". Do you support how they've been inhumanely treated and put into camps or are you saying the opposite? I hope not the former or you're a complete hypocrite. I'm a Jew and abhor anyone being imprisoned or put into a camp that resembled what my ancestors experienced.
Kier Starmer is ideologically aligned with Boris, which is why he never challenged policy but made all of his rebuttal personal. . So whilst Kier Starmer was taking kneeling photos for optics, he was ignoring complaints of Afriphobic racism in his own party. . When questioned about where thought the BLM movement might lead, he said "I think this will only be a moment not a movement", he then proceeded to do his best behind closed doors to make that statement accurate.
What are you going to teach them in your primary school? The reason why there are no Jewish children in your classroom or were in your parents classroom or in were in your grandparents classroom is because the Jewish children and Jewish communities have always lived and grew up in isolated areas, away from other religious and cultural areas.
Yes he should. That’s why he lost the whip. Starmer is encouraging him to run on his own ticket a good idea he has good policies but people stuck too many on. He is confused about what he feels about the eu. He’s against nuclear we know that. It’s sad he didn’t join the greens
Old Corby also wrote a foreward for a book he later admitted was "deplorable" in regard to its language about Jewish people. Also sharing a platform with Hezbollah or appearing on Iranian State TV for pay. Not an anti semite? Dont know who you think youre kidding, yourself probably.
@@nultyjack8219 Me or Champion Tonto? If its me, then ill say this. I knew Corbyn would get pumped in 2019. And he did. Anyone who didnt predict that outcome is the clueless one.
@@lloydfrancisco5287 Corbyn's sympathies strongly lie with the Palestinian cause in opposition to the Jewish State of Israel. Anyone holding that opinion will immediately open themselves up to charges of anti semitism.
Anti semitism is not just restricted to the Jews it actually means any type of discrimination against the both Jews and Arabs. However!!!! The practical implementation is only used for Jews and not just the Jews, but rather any type of criticism against Israel 🇮🇱 (with all of its crimes against humanity). If the Israeli government even thinks people are criticizing them they shout: anti semitism!!!
A remnant of the festering blairites parachuted into a Liverpool seat FFS . The only reason they wouldn't lynch her is because they would have been called anti-semitic.
I'm not a Corbyn fan, but it's ridiculous that Luciana Berger and others are labelling his as an antiseminte. The second guy being interviewed was spot on, it would be interesting to see him and Berger debate the issue. This was always a smear campaign
Everybody knows that Starmer is a Yesman who knows well how to tow the line whom ever his masters du jour set. As evident from his involvement in the case of the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes by the police which he played a scandalous part in errm somewhat down the table dealings which helped to propel him to Labour's front bench. Speculations aside we're old and wise enough to know who controls the media. He lazily took the softest whip to attack a man that they're ALL seem to be affraid of. Since Tony Blair tried and failed in his 2004 plot another lawyer/politians is back in the hotseat with their shameless shananigans using the outcry of a small sect of Jews with "slave mentality" who trademarked "anti-Semitic" to be use as a gag order for whenever a peaceful discussion/argument goes against them. Who needs monsters and demons when history showed us that lawyers and career policians are the worse scums that plague this Earth.
Then you'll probably get the Conservatives! And in a way, it is what you deserve because it is what you make happen. Cause and effect. That sort of thing.
He was the director of Public Prosecutions Andrew. This is a not a grand conspiracy against Jeremy the party we’re found to have broken the law under his watch. You don’t know what you are talking about.
Friends on Facebook have written that they've left the Labour Party today. I had hoped that their reasons were down to the overwhelming evidence of anti-semitism and the party's failure to tackle it. Unfortunately, it is all about Corbyn's suspension. They keep on stating how the upheaval is a gift to the Tories, and while no labour voter wants to put the opposition in a stronger position, equally, there are many of us who don't want to be part of an anti-semitic party. I just wish that some Labour voters were as passionate about addressing anti-semitism as they are over JC.
@@MrVice101 TH-cam comments are always a cess pit but yes there are some very bad takes from all sorts, many of whom i'm hoping have no official connection to the labour party (I support Corbyn)
Can't explain why keir starmer made that decision except for the reason that he just wants to take advantage of this sense of political correctness to say that he doesn't tolerate any anti-semitism or any denial of it, coupled with a wish to kill off Jeremy Corbyn's career so that Labour voters could forget about all the good of Jeremy and look forward to his "fresh" leadership. Make no mistake, that's a political show and a political attack that's nothing to do with anti semitism. The response was just Jeremy's comment on the figures of the report in terms of what's the reality within Labour in this issue. I think he is entitled to those comments, even though they may in fact be wrong, it cannot follow that he accepts, champions or denies the existence of anti scemtism. I think what Keir starmer said is going too far.
Keir was pretty clear that he wants to go beyond just procedures and wants to change the culture. So those minimising and hiding behind those gray area definitions will be out. That's what change in culture looks like.
@@davidcooks2379 There was never any 'anti Semitism' it was all invented by the Blairites who took over the party in the 90s to prevent Labour (the people) taking back Thatcher's privatisations.
Corbyn hid child abuse by labour members in Islington council. He is no saint he is the Trump of the left, his supporters dont let facts get in the way of their adulation.
@@vinayn9110 Jeremy Corbyn has a long record of standing up for his constituents. He called for an independent inquiry into child abuse in Islington at the time and has taken this strong line ever since. "He has called for the terms of reference of any inquiry to cross local authority and international jurisdiction to ensure as thorough and wide ranging investigation as possible. "He has commended the home secretary's intention to publish interim reports throughout the process. He has also proposed additional steps such as a standing commission. He has supported Islington Council working closely with the Home Office on these issues."
@@commonsense9176 independent e quiry after the evidence was disposed off, who are you kidding? He got paid by Iranian mullahs to call for destruction of Israel on TV. Good riddance!!
This is not whataboutery, as I fully accept that there was an anti-semitism problem with the Labour party, that the action to tackle it wasn't quick or robust enough and this report / investigation was required. However when will there be an investigation, either internal or external, into the rampant Islamophobia and general racism both within and by the Tory party? They ran an openly Islamophobic 2016 London mayoral campaign (overshadowed of course by the EU referendum campaign) against Sadiq Khan, which David Cameron not only failed to distance himself from but actively joined in with. Almost half of Tory members think that Islam is a threat to the British way of life. Definite double standards there.
Islamophobia by definition doesn't make sense. If i was gay and found the texts of homosexuality in Islam homophobic. Does that mean I'm islamophobic? Seems rational to Me
From the comments here there seems to be a feeling that anti-semitism isn’t that bad. The report was done by an independent organization and they clearly found wrong doing. Do you continue to have someone accused of anti-semitism just because he used to the party leader? I’m confused. As someone who votes Labour (or would do if I still lived in the UK) it feels like populism is causing this mess. It should be non-negotiable. If it is negotiable to have someone in your party who is racist, that may say more about you and your prejudices than it does about Keir Stamer and his reaction to this report.
JC, like me, is anti-ZIONIST and not anti-semetic. zionists claim that being critical of their gov is tantamount to anti-semetism. They have gov lobbies in usa and uk controlling the narratives. Please learn about the history from amnesty international -you will sadly become heartbroken as i was 6yrs ago when i finally looked into it all. the crimes of the zionist israeli gov i HOPE come from generational trauma. they have institutionalised apartheid over there now. denying access to clean water, jobs. stealing land and destroying houses and not even allowing folks to remove their belongings etc not to mention murder of 100s n 1000s of civilians who happen to be palestinian
@@kimwarburton8490 with all due respect why would you presume I don’t know this already? I do. Most people do by this point. I myself have always supported Palestine, and have been angered by the hard right in Israel. However, the problem is that I have spoken to people, very close friends, who are left, and probably consider themselves far-left, spout complete rubbish about how the holocaust was exaggerated. There can be an easy fall from I’m anti-Zionist to anti-semitic. And the fact that Jewish people feel uncomfortable is surely the concern for all Brits, regardless of party. An independent study found wrong doing. Now Corbyn may not be anti-semitic himself, but as leader you are responsible for your flock. Just like Trump is responsible for White Supremacy infiltrating the Republicans. As my Jewish friend in london said to me today: about time.
@@sarana77 Read the report. You'll find the part especially interesting that explains the General Secretary (not Corbyn) frustrated the process and Corbyn actually made it better. He was also completely correct in that there was a statisitical exaggeration by UK media of anti semitism in the Labour Party. Yours sincerely, A Brit from a Lithuanian-Jewish family 😊
TH-cam comments are always a cess pit sadly. Here's an article you might want to share which illuminates what's going on www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/ehrc-labour-antisemitism-starmer-corbyn-soul
Kreep. I don't tolerate sucking up or pushing to anyone because of their stereotypical, generalized economic power or victimhood. Don't forget, Esther was finally executed! Tamper with history and you allow for generalizations, racism, nazism, colonialism, etc. But TRUTH does not disappear.
All these years later and we still don't actually know what these "comments" constitute. Why? Because it's obviously comments critical of Israel, and as we all know you aren't allowed to be critical of Israel.
They aren’t comments critical of isarael. You had instances where Jewish people were not allowed into labour conferences in London boroughs, anti Semitic remarks such as “ gas them” thrown to labour Jewish MPs by labour supporters themselves, yet no action was taken against these people, or attempts were made to obfuscate or prolong the investigation process to no end. Corbyn needed the boot
What does a country with Starmer and Johnson as the two leaders remind me of? Trump and Biden. No voice is allowed in these countries for anyone representing the interests of normal people who work and pay taxes. That is what this is about.
its not labour anymore. Its become zionist-supporting tory-lite for the 2nd time. i mean really, u gunna support someone whos protected pedophiles? whos pro-zionist whos recently betrayed the hopes of labour friends for kashmir? ANOTHER muslim dominant population^ guess THATS an 'ok' form of racism for you?
Calling a spade a spade: this lady is bad news. Even so, I regret that she came in for bully boy tactics. That kind of thing has a long history in the UK labor movement and it is a problem. Just doesn't have a lot to do with antisemitism though.
Did the police at that Labour Conference agree that they were specifically protecting Berger? Or were they generally there to protect all Labour, Members and speakers?
Norman Smithers So you think Corbyn never lied or cheated to get to where he is now , lost a number of elections and kicked out of he's party , And what have the Jewish people got to do with it in your comment
🦋How has Labour fallen so hard? How has the anti-semitism got so bad? So the only parties left to vote for are the Conservatives with Boris Johnson and who else?🦋
he didnt deny it AT ALL HE was explaining that the MEDIA exaggerated such that polls typically showed that the general uk public believed that anti-semetism was about 30%, when in reality it was at the time 0.03% within the labour party. which was edited out to skew the narrative, again -.-
@@m.x970 for allowing anti-Semitism to grow unchecked. A lot of Jews were preparing to flee the country if he were to win GE, that's a pretty serious failure to tackle the problem. I seriously don't understand why he can't get himself to just sincerely apologise. Starmer has done twice already, and it's not like he himself done anything
Lol you can see her reading all the bull answers of something lol 😂 just take a look at her eyes running back and forth, it’s all a set up just to take Jc off the top
I don’t like religion in any form for my own life but I would never discriminate against someone because they disagree with me and want to live their lives within a community and a tradition that gives them what they want and need. Anti Semitism is cruel, stupid and bigoted and it speaks volumes about anyone who holds such views.
Meanwhile, in the conservative party referring to black people as "piccanninies" and "water melon smiles" is just a stepping stone toward becoming Prime minister.
Oh, wait...
If you read the spectator article youd realise what a good Orwellian sheep you are baaaa!
What a joke it reads like a joke very nice
@Deep Thought dude.. just read Marie's comment it's ridiculous
@Deep Thought and if that f* said it. So does that mean we go round saying it
@@sendropehhtz8831 Thank you Starmer for making Corbyn a Martyr.
I wish Luciana berger would name names and identify actions. After this report on c4 news I am none the wiser of what corbyn has said and done that is antisemitic.
+ she never seems 2 mention that the people who are in prison R on the Far-Right.
Exactly, i support the Tories and still I agree with you, sounds very unfair to me.
@@Blaze-sz1no so u must b counting your lucky starz then, or r u counting down the days when a much worse report condemns your party/h8 group: not that it would make much of a difference in this backwards cuntree!
@Ginger Think Sukhbir was referring to 7:35 , where Berger calls comments made by Corbyn antisemitic, not the hate directed towards her elsewhere.
Also notice how there is no mention of the leaked report that detailed how senior staff within Corbyn's party intentionally hampered and delayed anti-Semitic investigations as a way of sabotaging him.
Labour is doing everything they can to insure we continue to have a Conservative government for decades to come.
They've been doing that for a while even before terrorist sympathiser corbyn came to power lol
*was doing everything they could
This move is electorally popular
@@UNSKIALzPSN we’ll see
@@jessepferr2814 How does it feel to be brain washed by Billionaires that would sooner see you suffer & die than tell the truth on anything? Oh you wouldn't know you're brain washed...
Just like in Australia.
Go woke. Loose the election.
Meanwhile this week the Torys increased their MPs salary whilst people are losing their jobs across the country.
Jeremy Corbyn is not anti-Semitic.
Not in the slightest. This is a disgrace
Corbyn attended black September funeral and worked for antisemitic Iranian propaganda channel PressTV
@@Joekd6.1 the queen bowed her head in memory of IRA rebels killed in the Irish war of independence! Using your rationale that makes her a terrorist sympathizer ??
@@chrisj9700 you know that by being on the youtube platform makes YOU a kkk, nazi supporter because theres people on here that DO support those ideas? ya know, according to the logic youve been displaying here over n over
D K: IF CORBYN IS NOT ANTI-SEMITIC, WHY DIDN’T HE EXPEL THE JEWISH HATING MEMBERS FROM THE LABOUR PARTY?
Complete rubbish. Nothing at all in what he said that justifies suspension.
Just him breathing is a waste of good air .jew hating nazi
He is undermining the New Leadership's efforts to change the culture. Why not just admit the guilt, apologise and disappear with honor?
I'd of suspended him just for that scruffy beard alone. Oh and for wearing terrible cardigans 🤣
What . ..hes just loser like his brother. Maybe he should run again . No better way to keep a Tory government
Jeremy Corbyn
So now being critical about zionism is an anti-semitic attitude???
Screw Labour they only care about Palestine. They hate the working class.
That's exactly the point of the attacks on Jeremy's character.
@@Dean-rd3se You're lying.
@@TMan786 the red wall didn't think so.
@Deep Thought just goes to show how much Corbyn and Labour were hated that people like my grandad voted Torie my grandad an old miner. Labour are finished they only care about Palestine.
what a nonsense
Typical
What’s nonsensical about it Matt under his watch the Labour Party were found to have broken the law. Kier spoke with Jeremy the night before about the repercussions for those who deny the findings of the report. What choice was he left with?
@@henridobbs2423 he was kicked because he made anti-Israel comments
@@MM-jt3nf that’s a lie.
thats it I will cancel my membership I will not give this New labour and Stammer my hard earned money. JC should now start a socialist Labour party I would join.
Absolutely. A new party is essential
I just cancelled my direct debit to the Labour Party and will post them back my membership card in the morning.
Please go. Please start that socialist party and have fun there. Perhaps the rest of us will finally get some peace from your endless sniping.
Join the Socialist Workers Party. We could do with a laugh.
Good riddance
Socialism is unpopular in England
Starmer is the end of hope. Time for a new party
Great. Split the vote even further.
Please go. I joined the party just after the 2019 election, and I'm already sick of all the sniping that's coming from the disaffected Corbynists.
@@cinderball1135 It's not just the fact it's Corbyn, he could be doing this stuff to any of Labour's members and it'd be just as much of a farce. That's right, the left need to abandon the party en mass and form a new political movement with some decency and integrity at it's core, not the tepid bilge water Starmer has brought to Labour. Best of luck with project Blair Mk2... oh and if you think that's the last you'll hear of it think again, the sniping will go on and on now
@@IaJagon , the wilderness is that way, pal ..... just follow Jezza.
#KeirStalinOUT
because you oppose the systematic oppression by Israel of Palestinians, you are then rendered as anti-Semitic. I find this pathetic and extremely childish. Anti Semitism has just become a very useful tool to be used by professional victims, to get where you want!
People like him and Livingston and Rebecca Wrong Daily and Williamson will learn soon enough. ☺
There aren’t many things that make me proud to be English, but Corbyn is one of them.
Let’s be honest, anyone who criticises Israel for war crimes/crimes against humanity will immediately be labelled as anti Semitic.
now do brexit voters or people aganst grooming gangs?
The Labour Party is no longer the Party for the Working Classes!
Socialism is not for the working class
@pammens miss so what is the Alternative to Labour? Vote Tory?
@@harrywis2795 so what is the Alternative? Vote Tory?
Are your owners allowing you to use the concept of 'The Woking Class' now that you support them. Rees-Mogg loves you
@@benstevinson764 I mean if you want. Socialism doesn't care much for equity or social mobility. There's plenty out there that is better than socialism. Some economic policies like ubi. But certainly along freemarket
Should start his own party
He didn't get enough votes when in charge of the Labour Party, he would have even less on his own.
@Gaelic Reaction who votes for them right wihgers that's all
Yeah and give another victory for Tories
Yeh and call it the socialist wankers party
Because Corbyn’s ideas were outdated and had no credibility.
Imagine they fought the tories like they fought each other
Feinstein's a sound guy. Grateful that they gave him some airtime and in doing so acknowledged that there's more nuance to this issue than is typically accorded to it.
Oxbridge Establishment Mafia.
@andre ibanez keep reading the Murdoch.
Booooooo I would trade Corbyn over Boris in a heart beat!
@matthew-t9k At least Corbyn never left his wife with cervical cancer, for his mistress, fooked up the country and left us in war with Russia! Ramped up energy prices at the same time that has led to inflation that is NEVER going down. lol
Labour people /working class have been homeless since Blaire...and now we are completely without a home since JC has left along with Rebecca Long Bailey.
We are now more like america, which means you can slip a Rizla paper between Labour and Conservative,
If you can't tell the difference, you're an utter phukwit. Great shitpost!
@@emm_arr It has been so long, my loving twin ☺
Corbyn is the Trump of the left his supporters dont let facts get in the way of their adulation. Corbyn hid child abuse in Islington council, he is a c$%t.
@@vinayn9110 I never said he was perfect... I'm not F££king perfect, and I definitely know you're not perfect, because of your bad tempered, hard man response. Get a grip and calm down.
@@emm_arr Hey Phukwit, are you listening, even the press are saying Starmer is missing own goals. Precisely what I said, there is no difference between Tories and New labour now after Corbyn has left.
You Gobby idiot!!!
I believe in Kier but this is a ridiculous move, out of all that Jeremey Corbyn has said this is such a non-controversy. Why is it that Labour has to keep on apologizing for an issue they’ve worked very hard to solve. While Islamapobia is so flourishing within the Conservative party?
Islamapobia? What is that exactly? Why does being critical of or disagreeing with a belief system/set of ideas label me as 'islamaphopic'? I find it especially offensive today when another 'believer' hacked off a woman's head in France. Allah u Akbar!
There's a difference between criticising islam for being a political system with a supernatural dimension, and criticising muslims themselves. Likewise it should be possible to criticize Israel without being called an antisemite. There is, though, an element of the left that is blatantly anti semitic and Corbyn tries to cover that up.
Shame on you labour!
Human rights are also Jewish rights.
Corbyn should never have been let back in.
Where is freedom of speech
I still don't understand how people haven't seen this 'playing for electability' to be a toxic game that plays a big role in our society's descent into complete dysfunction. Because of it political narratives are clunky, half-real, silly dramas that hardly have any relevance to actually solving issues as they genuinely exist. Get a simple message to get to a large enough minority of the inattentive electorate, and you're in power. Starmer is playing this dumb game, like the utter stiff he is. It'll get you in, in the short term, maybe, but it's not what any serious politician who actualy cares will do. Tell me it's 'the way it is' and has to be played this way, if you want, but it's heading for doom. Do real politics, stay unpopular, take it slow, but at least you're on a real path. It's the only way. The wrong way is the wrong way, even if it gets you 'somewhere' quicker. The shallows will always be the shallows. The dumbed-down version will always be dumbed down. Such a fucking frustrating yawn-fest.
Conspiracy against those who question the hate state and want to hold it to account. If you still don't recognise who holds power over UK political ruling classes then so be it!
Good, now crawl back under your rock.
@Mr Porter Only an idiot posts a random TH-cam clip and expects it to be followed. No doubt it is some anti-Israeli propaganda. You clowns are so easy to spot and too easy to beat.
Bernie and now Corbin...smdh...the establishment continues to levy pseudo-isms against champions of the working class. 🤦🏾♀️
How shameful that Jeremy Corbyn was treated so abominably. Speaking the truth of Israel’s poor human rights treatment of Palestinians is not anti semitic.
History will Judge Corbyn as a political figure with great integrity and an anti-discrimination Guru.
You are funny, you should be on a stage 😂😁😀
@@middleeast.timeforpeace.7304 he anti-zionist, not anti-semetic. YOU of all people should understand the difference, or have u bought the line that anti-zionists believe israel should be destroyed?
anti-zionists believe the zionist israeli government needs to be stopped from it's apartheid murder n brutality n theft of land that was NEVER within the borders when israel was created post ww2
Its like they've all got generational trauma over there and acting out what the nazi's did to them upon the weaker palestinians, just like school bullies do
More likely he'll be remembered as one of the worst leaders of the opposition in British political history. You know.. just going on the stats. Worst Labour defeat in nearly a century & all that.. 😉
@@kimwarburton8490 Apologies, I was laughing at anyone thinking Corbyn was good for anything.
@@middleeast.timeforpeace.7304 The only thing Corbyn is good for is handing out leaflets at the local train station. I'm glad he's out. I only hope Starmer is strong enough to keep Corbyn out. Corbyn still has a lot of supporters in Labour, mainly Momentum. I left Labour 2 years ago because I could see the cult they were becoming. I've hated seeing my old party being ripped up.
kieth starmer is a jobby
He maybe ....but he got rid of the dead wood .lol
Israel won by getting anti semitism definition as anti Zionism or criticism of Israel.
@M B freedom of speach to criticise a governments regime (not it's people, the GOVERNMENT) equates to being racist? wow id love to buy u a dictionary
@M B Do you support North Korea and China's abominable government? With your logic criticising their human and democratic rights offenses would constitute as hatred of Korean/Chinese people. It's a lazy and illogical conflation.
If I abhor the actions of the UK/Lithuanian government (I do abhor the UK government) I must be racist towards myself as a Lithuanian Brit I guess 🤦♂️
@M B What do you mean by "muslim problem". Do you support how they've been inhumanely treated and put into camps or are you saying the opposite? I hope not the former or you're a complete hypocrite. I'm a Jew and abhor anyone being imprisoned or put into a camp that resembled what my ancestors experienced.
Didn't Starmer (red tory) knock down a cyclist in his 4x4, running late for a meeting with his Taylor...
...and then left the scene of the accident before the police turned up.
Antisemitism must be punished! 👌🏾
Kier Starmer is ideologically aligned with Boris, which is why he never challenged policy but made all of his rebuttal personal.
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So whilst Kier Starmer was taking kneeling photos for optics, he was ignoring complaints of Afriphobic racism in his own party.
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When questioned about where thought the BLM movement might lead, he said "I think this will only be a moment not a movement", he then proceeded to do his best behind closed doors to make that statement accurate.
What are you going to teach them in your primary school?
The reason why there are no Jewish children in your classroom or were in your parents classroom or in were in your grandparents classroom is because the Jewish children and Jewish communities have always lived and grew up in isolated areas, away from other religious and cultural areas.
That woman is lying through her teeth. She's been practicing. Definitely a tory stitch-up.
There is no need for the Conservatives to fight Labor for the next Election they can just leave The Jewish Lobby to do it for them.
Jeremy should start up his own party
Yes he should. That’s why he lost the whip. Starmer is encouraging him to run on his own ticket a good idea he has good policies but people stuck too many on. He is confused about what he feels about the eu. He’s against nuclear we know that. It’s sad he didn’t join the greens
Jeremy Corbyn’s national party for socialists…
@@AIenSmithee British Communist Party... BCP..
@@lifeisneverthesame910 I’m assuming you didn’t get my joke
yeah, the national socialist party, right? :)
He is a brave man. Shame on you Labour. Not the leader!!! What a lie.
Sharing a platform with someone you whose views don't agree with in entirity can't be deemed as AS.
Old Corby also wrote a foreward for a book he later admitted was "deplorable" in regard to its language about Jewish people.
Also sharing a platform with Hezbollah or appearing on Iranian State TV for pay.
Not an anti semite? Dont know who you think youre kidding, yourself probably.
Ffs ur clueless
@@nultyjack8219 Me or Champion Tonto?
If its me, then ill say this. I knew Corbyn would get pumped in 2019. And he did. Anyone who didnt predict that outcome is the clueless one.
@@lloydfrancisco5287 not u
@@lloydfrancisco5287 Corbyn's sympathies strongly lie with the Palestinian cause in opposition to the Jewish State of Israel. Anyone holding that opinion will immediately open themselves up to charges of anti semitism.
Anti semitism is not just restricted to the Jews it actually means any type of discrimination against the both Jews and Arabs. However!!!! The practical implementation is only used for Jews and not just the Jews, but rather any type of criticism against Israel 🇮🇱 (with all of its crimes against humanity).
If the Israeli government even thinks people are criticizing them they shout: anti semitism!!!
Tony Blair still a member
Yes and rightly so as this country most successful Labour leader and PM.
@Pangolin Steak & Bat Gravy ahh so anti-muslim is acceptable form of racism, cheers, now i know -.-
Is not only you who received threats
Many others from different background also received threats
Oh that's ok then.
A remnant of the festering blairites parachuted into a Liverpool seat FFS . The only reason they wouldn't lynch her is because they would have been called anti-semitic.
I'm not a Corbyn fan, but it's ridiculous that Luciana Berger and others are labelling his as an antiseminte. The second guy being interviewed was spot on, it would be interesting to see him and Berger debate the issue. This was always a smear campaign
Everybody knows that Starmer is a Yesman who knows well how to tow the line whom ever his masters du jour set. As evident from his involvement in the case of the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes by the police which he played a scandalous part in errm somewhat down the table dealings which helped to propel him to Labour's front bench. Speculations aside we're old and wise enough to know who controls the media. He lazily took the softest whip to attack a man that they're ALL seem to be affraid of. Since Tony Blair tried and failed in his 2004 plot another lawyer/politians is back in the hotseat with their shameless shananigans using the outcry of a small sect of Jews with "slave mentality" who trademarked "anti-Semitic" to be use as a gag order for whenever a peaceful discussion/argument goes against them. Who needs monsters and demons when history showed us that lawyers and career policians are the worse scums that plague this Earth.
as for C4.. totally not propaganda of the state.
Jeremy Corbyn is the only Labour leader I'd support !
Then you'll probably get the Conservatives! And in a way, it is what you deserve because it is what you make happen.
Cause and effect. That sort of thing.
Sheila Cassidy
How's that working out :-)
@@stevemc522 I just don't vote Labour now 🙃
@@ShoJ369 Then you'll probably get the Conservatives! And in a way, it is what you deserve because it is what you make happen.
Sheila Cassidy
Th more who don't the longer they stay out of power so it's all good from my perspective
Sir totally not a tool of the system (thing.. family.. oligarchy.. ) that made him a sir.. now thers yir problem..
He was the director of Public Prosecutions Andrew. This is a not a grand conspiracy against Jeremy the party we’re found to have broken the law under his watch. You don’t know what you are talking about.
No defending yourself from accusations of anti-semitism; this is Orwellian.
Friends on Facebook have written that they've left the Labour Party today. I had hoped that their reasons were down to the overwhelming evidence of anti-semitism and the party's failure to tackle it. Unfortunately, it is all about Corbyn's suspension. They keep on stating how the upheaval is a gift to the Tories, and while no labour voter wants to put the opposition in a stronger position, equally, there are many of us who don't want to be part of an anti-semitic party. I just wish that some Labour voters were as passionate about addressing anti-semitism as they are over JC.
The comments are a cesspit of anti semitism. It’s going to be a very painful process.
www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/ehrc-labour-antisemitism-starmer-corbyn-soul this explains the anger
@@MrVice101 TH-cam comments are always a cess pit but yes there are some very bad takes from all sorts, many of whom i'm hoping have no official connection to the labour party (I support Corbyn)
There is no anti-Semitism crisis in the Labor party and there never was one. It was a bad faith stitch up to destroy the workers movement in the UK.
What a sad day for Channel 4 and a delightful day for British Jews.
Nothing but sunshine coming my way ............
Can't explain why keir starmer made that decision except for the reason that he just wants to take advantage of this sense of political correctness to say that he doesn't tolerate any anti-semitism or any denial of it, coupled with a wish to kill off Jeremy Corbyn's career so that Labour voters could forget about all the good of Jeremy and look forward to his "fresh" leadership. Make no mistake, that's a political show and a political attack that's nothing to do with anti semitism.
The response was just Jeremy's comment on the figures of the report in terms of what's the reality within Labour in this issue. I think he is entitled to those comments, even though they may in fact be wrong, it cannot follow that he accepts, champions or denies the existence of anti scemtism. I think what Keir starmer said is going too far.
Keir was pretty clear that he wants to go beyond just procedures and wants to change the culture. So those minimising and hiding behind those gray area definitions will be out. That's what change in culture looks like.
@@davidcooks2379 There was never any 'anti Semitism' it was all invented by the Blairites who took over the party in the 90s to prevent Labour (the people) taking back Thatcher's privatisations.
Ch4 cursaders.. What about the tory inquiry.
Into what
Islamophobia
Care homes
Corruption
You have to be more clear 👍
Corbyn hid child abuse by labour members in Islington council. He is no saint he is the Trump of the left, his supporters dont let facts get in the way of their adulation.
@@vinayn9110 facts lol
@@vinayn9110 Jeremy Corbyn has a long record of standing up for his constituents. He called for an independent inquiry into child abuse in Islington at the time and has taken this strong line ever since.
"He has called for the terms of reference of any inquiry to cross local authority and international jurisdiction to ensure as thorough and wide ranging investigation as possible.
"He has commended the home secretary's intention to publish interim reports throughout the process. He has also proposed additional steps such as a standing commission. He has supported Islington Council working closely with the Home Office on these issues."
@@commonsense9176 independent e quiry after the evidence was disposed off, who are you kidding? He got paid by Iranian mullahs to call for destruction of Israel on TV. Good riddance!!
UK is moving towards single party system. Soon there will be Conservative Party of UK ruling all over UK, with no opposition.
That's what they get for not supporting white working class
@Ynwa6 not once Scotland leave
@Ynwa6 That's because Farage gamed the system with mystery money - again!
@@emm_arr Farage is a good man. He is making good speeches at Trump rallies.
@@firstname4865 Conservatives will have an even bigger majority without Scotland. Labour can never win without Scotland
UK doesn't deserve Jeremy Corbyn!
Correct. He belongs in Venezuela.
You guys do know that the Conservatives were getting millions from Russia... For playing tennis with Boris Johnson or Teresa May for example.
@M B there's a big difference in spending money and spending money on politicians... These are people who have connections to Putin.. Open your eyes!
@M B perhaps!? What's your point?
Jeremy♥️
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This is not whataboutery, as I fully accept that there was an anti-semitism problem with the Labour party, that the action to tackle it wasn't quick or robust enough and this report / investigation was required.
However when will there be an investigation, either internal or external, into the rampant Islamophobia and general racism both within and by the Tory party? They ran an openly Islamophobic 2016 London mayoral campaign (overshadowed of course by the EU referendum campaign) against Sadiq Khan, which David Cameron not only failed to distance himself from but actively joined in with. Almost half of Tory members think that Islam is a threat to the British way of life. Definite double standards there.
Islamophobia by definition doesn't make sense. If i was gay and found the texts of homosexuality in Islam homophobic. Does that mean I'm islamophobic? Seems rational to Me
Madness!
"islamophobia" and "antisemitism" are c@ncerous buzzword used to deflect criticism of religion.
The leftys attacking each other when there's no one else
I used to rate/respect C4 news so highly but after the last few years and this video (lack of challenging and balance) the levels are tanking!
The moment Starmer showed his Blue stripes
If you want a successful political or media career in the UK you must NEVER EVER criticise Israel. Kier Stammer looks a frightened rabbit.
From the comments here there seems to be a feeling that anti-semitism isn’t that bad. The report was done by an independent organization and they clearly found wrong doing. Do you continue to have someone accused of anti-semitism just because he used to the party leader? I’m confused. As someone who votes Labour (or would do if I still lived in the UK) it feels like populism is causing this mess. It should be non-negotiable. If it is negotiable to have someone in your party who is racist, that may say more about you and your prejudices than it does about Keir Stamer and his reaction to this report.
Corbyn was campaigning against racism when you were mere spunk.
JC, like me, is anti-ZIONIST and not anti-semetic. zionists claim that being critical of their gov is tantamount to anti-semetism. They have gov lobbies in usa and uk controlling the narratives. Please learn about the history from amnesty international -you will sadly become heartbroken as i was 6yrs ago when i finally looked into it all. the crimes of the zionist israeli gov i HOPE come from generational trauma. they have institutionalised apartheid over there now. denying access to clean water, jobs. stealing land and destroying houses and not even allowing folks to remove their belongings etc not to mention murder of 100s n 1000s of civilians who happen to be palestinian
@@kimwarburton8490 with all due respect why would you presume I don’t know this already? I do. Most people do by this point. I myself have always supported Palestine, and have been angered by the hard right in Israel. However, the problem is that I have spoken to people, very close friends, who are left, and probably consider themselves far-left, spout complete rubbish about how the holocaust was exaggerated. There can be an easy fall from I’m anti-Zionist to anti-semitic. And the fact that Jewish people feel uncomfortable is surely the concern for all Brits, regardless of party. An independent study found wrong doing. Now Corbyn may not be anti-semitic himself, but as leader you are responsible for your flock. Just like Trump is responsible for White Supremacy infiltrating the Republicans. As my Jewish friend in london said to me today: about time.
@@sarana77 Read the report. You'll find the part especially interesting that explains the General Secretary (not Corbyn) frustrated the process and Corbyn actually made it better. He was also completely correct in that there was a statisitical exaggeration by UK media of anti semitism in the Labour Party.
Yours sincerely,
A Brit from a Lithuanian-Jewish family 😊
TH-cam comments are always a cess pit sadly. Here's an article you might want to share which illuminates what's going on www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/ehrc-labour-antisemitism-starmer-corbyn-soul
War criminal are fine to be members... Jeremy is not. Makes total sense!
I can find racist post from Boris but I cannot find one post about Corbyn being racist. How ironic.
If I were in the U.K., I would be leaving the Labour Party and joining the Workers Party.
That would favour the Tories.
Who cares about the Labour party!?
JC is not anti-Semitic but he was complacent to anti-Semitism.
The report that people seem happy to ignore says otherwise.
@@kinganarkzie I think being complacent is as bad
Someone's getting sued. He's never made an AS comment.
Kreep. I don't tolerate sucking up or pushing to anyone because of their stereotypical, generalized economic power or victimhood. Don't forget, Esther was finally executed! Tamper with history and you allow for generalizations, racism, nazism, colonialism, etc. But TRUTH does not disappear.
Wish they treated islamaphobia with the same swiftness 💀
Yep, Boorish Johnson's "jokes" re hijabs and Liverpudlians haven't got him suspended from the Tories
@@helenokeeffe1823 he's the leader of the tory party not some bizarre marxist outfit
You have to ask yourself, does any other politician get into this much trouble for if they're racist against the black instead of the Jews?
@M B #ShitpostQuean
@M B #ShitpostQuean
@M B what is this 5 eyes thing u mention?
Where he went wrong was being supported by channel 4.
A death sentence.
Corbyn said Goodbye Jews.
The electorate said Goodbye Labour.
All these years later and we still don't actually know what these "comments" constitute.
Why? Because it's obviously comments critical of Israel, and as we all know you aren't allowed to be critical of Israel.
They aren’t comments critical of isarael. You had instances where Jewish people were not allowed into labour conferences in London boroughs, anti Semitic remarks such as “ gas them” thrown to labour Jewish MPs by labour supporters themselves, yet no action was taken against these people, or attempts were made to obfuscate or prolong the investigation process to no end. Corbyn needed the boot
But Kieth did politically interfere himself by suspending Jeremy
Good on channel 4 for getting the full picture, especially well described by Andrew Feinstein
An ANC member defending Jermery Corbyn is like the Chinese Communist Party defending Stalin.
What does a country with Starmer and Johnson as the two leaders remind me of? Trump and Biden. No voice is allowed in these countries for anyone representing the interests of normal people who work and pay taxes. That is what this is about.
laboour eats itself....
Neoliberals invaded the party.
its not labour anymore. Its become zionist-supporting tory-lite for the 2nd time.
i mean really, u gunna support someone whos protected pedophiles? whos pro-zionist whos recently betrayed the hopes of labour friends for kashmir? ANOTHER muslim dominant population^ guess THATS an 'ok' form of racism for you?
Calling a spade a spade: this lady is bad news. Even so, I regret that she came in for bully boy tactics. That kind of thing has a long history in the UK labor movement and it is a problem. Just doesn't have a lot to do with antisemitism though.
Opportunistic time now to clear out all the anti semitic Corbynistas, root and branch. Make Labour electable again!
You will lose.
Neoliberalism is a losing ideology.
Excellent Hasbara. Vote Likud.
Did the police at that Labour Conference agree that they were specifically protecting Berger? Or were they generally there to protect all Labour, Members and speakers?
We need to encourage Corbyn, Galloway,Livingstone et al to start a new party! Otherwise, we are most definitely screwed.
Galloway does have one standing. He did have party Respect I was surprised Corbyn didn’t resign to join it. Philip Davies won’t join Farage either
I have no time for Corbyn and his followers but I can’t stand set up either and Corbyn has been set up. Will Labour never learn.
Was Corbyn as shocked has when he lost the 2019 GE
Didn't you see his speech after the election he told everybody labour won, he seems to have a problem with reality
@@steveaustin4118 ya like infinite growth, ridiculous!!
If only you can spell, it will make your point even sillier.
Norman Smithers
So you think Corbyn never lied or cheated to get to where he is now , lost a number of elections and kicked out of he's party ,
And what have the Jewish people got to do with it in your comment
@Norman Smithers Jews seem to? Are you on crack?
Why didn't you explain the problem at the start ?!
Well, that's me not voting for labour party anymore.
New Labour all over again.
Red Tories , Sir Keir ... lol
Iz it coz I iz blak? = Iz it coz I iz Jewish?
If someone is in your way, just cry Racism and watch everyone run for cover.
🦋How has Labour fallen so hard? How has the anti-semitism got so bad? So the only parties left to vote for are the Conservatives with Boris Johnson and who else?🦋
vote for Boris and see the state of the country. Shambles..due to the joker at the TOP
Green Party of England
@@Joekd6.1 come to Brighton and see what a great job miss lucas has done
Because the Tories don't have a problem with racism? I suspect that it's their type of racism that's acceptable to you.
Didn't Starmer sit on Corbyn's front bench? Why didn't he speak up then?
So to deny the charge is a guilty act... Love it, great work.
He denied the verdict. He’s entitled to do so, but to do from within the party brings it into disrepute, and exacerbates the problem.
he didnt deny it AT ALL
HE was explaining that the MEDIA exaggerated such that polls typically showed that the general uk public believed that anti-semetism was about 30%, when in reality it was at the time 0.03% within the labour party. which was edited out to skew the narrative, again -.-
Wait for this to disappear from the press, even though it is a huge issue.
JC just can't get himself to apologise. He's so righteous and arrogant
Yup. In his way even more so than Johnson.
@@emm_arrboth are pretty bad
What did he do wrong? apologise for what?
@M B #ShitpostQuean
@@m.x970 for allowing anti-Semitism to grow unchecked. A lot of Jews were preparing to flee the country if he were to win GE, that's a pretty serious failure to tackle the problem. I seriously don't understand why he can't get himself to just sincerely apologise. Starmer has done twice already, and it's not like he himself done anything
He destroyed labour party!!!
Totally agree with that. Him and his cult following at Momentum.
Lol you can see her reading all the bull answers of something lol 😂 just take a look at her eyes running back and forth, it’s all a set up just to take Jc off the top
I don’t like religion in any form for my own life but I would never discriminate against someone because they disagree with me and want to live their lives within a community and a tradition that gives them what they want and need.
Anti Semitism is cruel, stupid and bigoted and it speaks volumes about anyone who holds such views.
He was critical of Israel not antisemitic
God bless Jeremy Corbin! Selah
Labour finished. Unite will sort that.