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I love hearing MBT explain decks and the history around them. He's so thorough and a good storyteller
Could be the theater degree he has lol
I swear you guys make this type of comment just to be disrespectful to Cimo.
@@adolcorsei7390 ??? Ratio if I’ve ever seen it
@@adolcorsei7390 Appreciating one person doesn't mean I dislike another. Nothing I said would indicate that. If I didn't like him I would exclusively watch MBT instead of watching this series
Yeah, i bet he could be a fantastic GM
It seems like Alex has a tendency to sit on resources for a long time and as the game becomes faster from episode to episode it becomes more of a disadvantage
Cimo is not a combo player at heart. His most recent deck was salamangreat. Joseph has more experience with different decks so he has an advantage
Agree - e.g., and this is 100% hindsight bias, but in G3 it MIGHT have been better to at least try and clear some of the backrow with Nerthet before trying to cycle REDMD back in.
I've noticed this too.
He has played so many of his series that he is stuck in Old school mentality. And as a result , he now plays TOO conservative and is playing not to lose, not to win.
@@xatuyou8045 MBT stands for Mono Blue Tron a combo/control deck in Magic the Gathering so I would say combo comes naturally to MBT
It's funny seeing this comment now because that's more evident than ever getting into Links
With Game 2, I think you always set MST against Wind-up turn 1, so you can snipe the Factory and limit the board they can make exponentially.
Just top deck dark hole next turn. Easy.
Yeah, he didn't think that one through
I would’ve set MST instead of lance imo. I suppose cimo was more afraid of dying turn 2 than hitting factory.
Man, future episodes have to be best of 5, these games go by so fast!
true, coinflip meta
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Future Patreon level bonus.
Access to extra games played
@@getsuga10shou47 How is 2-0 coin-flip?
Modern Yu-Gi-Oh be like.
Oh dear God why is there only 1 normal target in Cimo's Hieratics? How are you supposed to resolve Su or Nebthet on summon after tributing a hieratic to get it on board, or survive a single copy of DD crow?
Hey Cimo, thanks for profiling my deck!! Just saw this video and brought me back to high school and a rush of memories! The last extra deck card was Blood Mefist to help win in time, and weird situations/decks that played waboku and Troar.
That hieratic list is so weird, you either played a luster dragon #2 or a curse of dragon alongside the wattail, you never only played one normal monster.
Also, BLS was good here, 2 nebthet was enough, and M7 was missing on the extra
also pretty sure galaxy serpent was legal back then too. This list is like the worst list lol
Neither m7 or Galaxy Serpent were out and yes BLS was a house, but hard to summon unless you build more for it. Curse of dragon was a lvl5 DARK dragon used sometimes. Labradorite the lvl 6 Dark wasn't out yet either. So unless you got a birdman to grave... somehow you don't have the darks
During their "game 3", Cimooo keeps grabbing more Hieratics with the tributed ones' effects, but they're only able to summon "Normal" dragon monsters, aka Watt-tail dragon. This loop of tributing he was doing "Su tribute Su, tributed Su grabs Tefnuit" couldn't work since the Tefnuit would have to be a normal, so the Watttail in grave.
That just did not happen how you are talking about it. He got one tefnuit by accident, but it didn't matter because he never used the tefnuits effect and the other watt tail was accessible. It literally didn't matter.
@@jadegrace1312 but they can bring it back from grave. Also yes it didn’t matter but still is a cimooooo reading cards moment
@@tylerlarson9370 yeah, the watt tail was accessible
@@jadegrace1312 it actually did matter. Cimo was running himself out of hieratic names in deck for no reason
@@Raminator243 Yeah but it didn't affect the game.
I really hope they play Dragunity at some point soon. Atum is where the deck got fairly strong.
literally Dragunity will make stronger versions of Hieratic boards most of the time
Week 2 of asking for the wheel back. There were so many viable decks during this period, and we’d love to see the evolution of the old decks as well.
Honestly miss when these episodes still had episodes numbers. Also wish the patreon shout out still popped up on screen.
One thing I always found interesting is that Shock Master along with Big Eye became two of the most powerful cards used and just happened to be used by the same duelist in the Zexal Anime. (Fortuno)
Who completely threw against Yuma by calling trap instead of monster
@@astercat49 Have you seen Yuma's cards? Yuma's playing shit like Achacha Archer. There was no way the guy playing Shock Master turbo was gonna lose without throwing.
I was waiting for this episode. Hieratic is one of my most beloved archetypes
Same here. Found the archetype in 2016 and still play it to this day
@bing chilling mine too . I played a rank 8 variant and played it until duelist alliance format.
Too bad this episode was trash that hieratic deck was ass tbh he couldn't really do shit tbh he was playing go second with go first cards lmao
@S V Kind of, but even if he was familiar with the archetype he was never going to win with that deck. That was the worst Hieratic deck I've ever seen.
@@iamdanieloliveira I think that build needed some form of battle trap and one day of peace. But to be fair, shock master is too op.
I participated in the sneak peek during which hieratics were revealed. Really like their artwork. kind of a cool playstyle as well.
we are getting closer and closer to spellbooks and dragonrulers. Can't wait for the first redox pass.
Hieratic got weirder after that point, soon you were playing one day of peace to insulate from getting otk’d and a reason it’s at 1 to this day, you play wingbeat when heavy goes, you can play dragon rulers in it which everyone remembers and you can play a synchro heavy one when galaxy serpent and labradorite come out, also the deck got so many extra deck improvements from HA and the premium tins
I loved Synchro Hieratics. And the pure creativity and flexibility of the deck makes it one of my all time favourites. Even if it got a poor showing here.
Here are today’s illegal actions:
16:42 Wind-Up Magician summons the monster in defense mode
28:56 Hieratic Dragon of Su must summon a dragon normal monster
That's honestly much less than i expected.
We need this comment on every video ever posted on this channel. Or like...a compilation video of every time they click buttons instead of reading their own cards.
So, offsetting penalties. Got it.
@@cameraredeye3115 Replay the down
Compared to a lot of episodes this is pretty good
0:12 I don't know why, but i love this photo of Cimooo and MBTas archeologists
0:51 MBT's decklist: Wind-Up 7:33 Cimoooo's Decklist: Hieratics
14:07 Game 1 19:39 Game 2 26:13 Game 3
Something I have come to love about History of Yu-Gi-Oh is that each episode is standalone, someone could stumble into this episode and get all the important historical information about the cards in this video without having to go back to the Shock Master episode for example to learn about Shock Master.
I now get what MBT was saying on stream when he mentioned talking with Cimooo about not numbering episodes for some of these series.
The Nano sleeves from Nichijou are so incredibly based, I'm speechless
I wish Hieratics were just a bit more powerful nowadays. It introduced an interesting way to get these good (for their time) Xyz monsters on the field, and we can all agree that the fact that Hieratics received a Link monster for modern support means Konami acknowledged the lack of a modern power in the archetype.
Only issue was that they made that link so generic that it almost made the deck worse because it gave such a bump to other dragon decks
Would say atum is still busted as all hell, it's just there aren't too many lvl 6 dragon extenders except with dragunities and of course elpy was a thing
Ngl this was honestly one of my favorite XYZ decks and worked well with another archetype I liked being Horus the black flame dragon
Modern Hieratics are still an OTK deck today.
Going first, they just Ultimaya Tzolkin + Crystal Wing pass and hope for the best.
Going second: make R6s, R8s, and Borrelsword/Accescode, and OTK.
This deck also plays more Normal Monsters specifically for combos.
I love Hieratics! This was a poor showing unfortunately :/ I remember playing Hieraric with 3 REDMD, that deck was crazy with making Gustav Max to burn for 2000k, it was really easy to OTK with it. Wish that could have been shown. I also used Hanzo and Ninjustu Art of Super Transformation to have a good normal summon that was a disruption that got me a Hieratic I could use for my combos
This episodes showcase why match-up matters. Wind-up can shock master and shutdown Hieratics turn easily. I think if you do what you did in prog finale(use 3 different decks and play the match) we can watch different match-up and showcase all meta deck at the period.
in Game 2, cimo could have forbidden lance on the wind-up rat, it wouldnt have been able to be put into attack position because its unaffected by card effects. dont know how much it would have saved him but it would have hurt extension some
Ah yes. Hieratic Dragon King of Atum. The Elpy for Dragunity
Something I hope they mention when they get to Mermails is the OTK line with Marksman and Abyssmegalo as that was something that really pushed this deck over the the top (on top of everything else)
As far as I remember, hieratic rulers were a top deck for a very small period. Ppl experimented with it right after rulers went to 1, but the format soon evolved into the water vs fire format. Then they became insane again much later with dark matter, but then rulers just got banned immediately
I know it happened in game 3, but cimoo…
Hieratics can only grab NORMAL dragon monsters from hand deck or gy with their tribute effect.
A classic game3moooooooooment
Thankfully it ultimately didn't matter, the end board would have been the same with just one more hieratic in deck
Bro this is Yu-Gi-Oh here you only glance at card effects not actually read them
0:56 Deck List / Breakdown
15:10 Duels
Wind up is suuuuuch a cool deck!
Btw, spoiler for a fun fact about game 2:
Later versions of this deck sometimes ran Zenmaister for exactly the situation MBT was in there. It's a rank 4 Wind Up you can overlay your Magicians into to trigger the shark in hand so you can make a rank 5 and have lethal on board.
He still had OTK if he played correctly.
Heretics were one of my favorite decks, and I learned really quick that you left yourself open to battle very often. I ran Threatening Roar and Battle Fader alongside Tragoedia and Gorz. Maxx C, Card Car D, and Duality usually got you everything you needed. Definitely needed a second Vanilla on this list though
I dont get why cimo played the way he did first 2 games
As a guy who tried playing Hieratic during the recently concluded Xyz festival in master duel, I can confirm that these issues have NOT gone away.
Hieratics were the first good deck I ever played. Nothing better than special summoning tefnuit.
Still think Rank 8 Hieratics were severely underrated but they were hurt by not having Dragrad.
Agreed. Hieratics could also make Thunder End Dragon too, which was cool.
Always a fun watch, here is hoping to see heiratics/gishki with constellar m7 loop for history of jank
Oh I figured it was jank because it representation wasn't as high other meta decks of the time, but yea I know konami doesn't like loops of any kind to be in the game
I'm really interested to see how this series would consider the not too long ago week that pre-errata Makyura was legal at 3, resulting in complete madness, roller coaster prices, and overall.. an inconsistent unspectacular FTK in modern YGO.
The short time Makyura was legal without Errata showed that the card could have probably come back without an Errata what is crazy to think about because Makyura's effect of breaking a complete card type is broken as hell but FTKs with the card are too fragile and inconsistent especially the versions that played all these draw traps that do nothing if you don't have Makyura access.
Too bad you guys won't be covering the ocg version of Hieratic with 3 redmd and gustav
It would be great if they did season 2, history of OCG
OCG hieratics with 3 RDMD is one of my all time favorite deck, glad to see them here.
Ah hell yeah. Just wait till Hieratics get M7, adding handtraps back from grave is super clutch (:
when you're netdecking from ygotopdecks, often cards are missing (sometimes obviously because the list was not uploaded in full, not because smth was missing from the decklist). I think it's reasonable to use your best judgment in order to guess what the slots can be filled with, fidelity to the actual list is nice, fidelity to the mistake of someone who liked it and uploaded it somewhere (god bless them) rather unneeded.
I'm glad Joseph realized by game 3 that this was a but mismatched. Hieratics were rogue at their best, but too susceptible to disruption and they needed great hands every game. Didn't run into them at tournaments very much. Very fun deck tho, wish it had released more towards the beginning of xyz era.
Fun fact: Hieratics were actually released about 22 days before the release of shock master (as a Shonen jump promo card no less), so the initial testing period when a lot of ppl we're trying the deck the meta was slightly different.
23:50 that was such a satisfying Dark Hole
Never thought I'd see Nano here
Watching Cimooo play all my old decks wrong makes me want to pull my teeth out
Drunk watching yugioh is as fun as sober. If not more because of how excited you get.
Cimo: this deck is amazing going second…. Which is why I’m going first.
easily the best card sleeves from MBT ive seen
I find it funny that Alex for 2 episodes has talked about decks being the reason why birdman got limited....and yet both decks only played one anyway.
God I CANNOT WAIT until they get to XYZ Infernity. The combos that deck could do were NUTS, but it sadly died shortly after its inception.
Hierarics join Infernoid of "trust me bro this is really good" for years and it just never really does anything
Another great episode. I've been enjoying these episodes ever since Heavy Storm was unbanned
I used to like running Ultimaya tzolkin and a small Horus level 4/6/8 package with hieratics. Was quite funny having Horus lvl 6 and 8 shut down spells and royal decree for traps while combo-ing off
History of Yu-Gi-Oh! episode wins
Cimoooooooo: 36
MBT: 36
One of my Favorite decks of the Zexal Era! Loved Atum REDMD Atum double Gaia game!
2 years out from DUEA format... I can't wait to see Cimo finally do an episode with Farfa
Hieratics were my first competitive deck as a kid so the nostalgia hits hard here lol
So I guess at the time people weren't running Heliopolis. Heliopolis was something I used a lot in my Dark World deck back then, but I guess people weren't comfortable running a couple of Blue-Eyes or something in Heiractics in order to make it.
Gemini imps was a fascinating card. It was sort of like the "droll phenomenon" but way b4 droll in the sense that ppl 'dicovered' a use for a card long thought to be useless. In addition to doing well vs dark worlds, dropping gimps vs a Wind-up hunter killed the hunter and stopped any chance of ur opp ripping cards from ur hand. Even tho the full hunter loop was gone, ripping a few cards from ur opps hand isn't exactly a bad choice turn 1 for the wind-up player.
MBT ASMR where he just breaks down yugioh decks
Nice throw game 2 cimo
If youre opponent has nothing on their board and you have 3 hieratics in your hand your board should be su, wattail/labradorite and a blue eyes. Then go rank 6 atum and summon galaxy eyes photon dragon with atum and overlay blue eyes and galaxy eyes into number 62, then overlay rank 7 Gaia over atum and go for game
Besides Eldlich, Hieratic was the archetype I played the most variants of back in the day. I had a few janky ones besides the usual control variant:
One OTKd using Neo Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon and Creature Swap
Another OTKd using Mini Guts and Chronomaly Machu Mech
A third one locked the opponent out with Horus the Black Flame Dragon Lv8, Tyrant's Temper and Skill Drain.
Once Labradorite Dragon came out I had one that turbo'd out Ultimaya Tzolkin.
I get so much nostalgic feelings, because I played this era. It was nice back then. Just a few hand traps, destroying cards is powerful. No broken boards to destroy with 5 omni-negates or sth
Love your series ;)
"No broken boards"
Shock Master: Am I a joke to you?
@bing chilling Yeah and VFD helped VW, same idea.
The answer to the question of “2 or 3 Pot of Avarice?” is “depends on the deck”
Fire Fist id approaching 👀 My Macro Rabbit's time to shine!
cant wait till 2018 when cimo tries to relearn gouki combos
I always get a tickle when I hear Indianapolis mentioned. I remember Infernoids topping at 1st place one year when it was tier 2 at the time.
Respect for the Nichijou sleeves
Wind-up Rabbit really is one of the best cards in the Wind-Up deck. John could have used it to play around Maxx C. When Cimo Maxx C'd his Magician effect, he should have gotten another Rabbit instead of Shark. That way he can use Rabbit to banish Magician, his Rabbit will likely die, then next turn, he has his first Rabbit and Magician coming back and he can continue his play. He also could have gone for the OTK in game 2 instead of going Shock Master. But I guess he didn't know how to do it?
gosh Cimo didnt even know what hieratic guys do , great ahahah think he missed the fact that they summon only vanillas xD
Under shock master game 2 Cimo still could’ve summoned Tefnuit from hand and banished to summon REDMD since neither are activated effects
ah, hieratic,
I use this deck in duel links for long enough,
surely one of my fav
One of the people at my locals used to play stardust assault mode hieratics lol
I've been waiting for the hieratics, my body is ready.
Living in that age of yugioh with so much memories. Ahh nostalgia.
Just add the missing card in the extra deck, no way the actual player didn't play 15.
Hieratic is one of my favorite archetypes. It's also an excellent example of an archetype that was so poorly designed and under supported at the time. That many players misunderstood what it was supposed to do. Leading to the otk variant and a few others.
When in reality, it was a control deck built around using your Backrow hieratic seal traps and main deck monster effects to control the board by tributing your monsters. Atum being a means to help get fodder on board. Thankfully Konami actually remembered this and every piece of new support so far has been to buff the original intended play style. Deck still needs searchers for it's spells and traps, and more consistent ways to set up our backrow as well as get back spent spells and traps.
1. We need a history of Tier 0. Can you do a video covering the tier 0 formats? ex. Tele-dad vs Zoodiac
2. Can you do a game of modern Yugioh with everything at 3? I don't think some cards are as busted as people think!
They will cover tier 0 decks as normal episodes. They did Teledad mirror in several episodes before so I expect they will do the same to others.
@@sandradee4331 Yeah, but what about Tele-dad vs Zoodiac or Yata-Lock!
@@insanemakaioshin there's no point in putting older tier 0 decks against any modern competitive deck, we already know how it would end
You can watch lithium's cross banlist cup to see some of those decks in action in some fun duels though
This deck soo much better with the dragon rules and Ash
How have y’all read Shock Master wrong twice?
It doesn’t matter if you declare Monster, Spell or Trap. It still applies until the end of next turn.
They still didn't understand shock master effect also prevents s/t until end of opponent's turn?
The hieratic full combo does 11900 damage, I Played them back in the day and even if they had a full board you could win with gaia piercing. I used to play triple swift scarecrow and triple reckless greed to be able to set reckless turn 1 and survive to otk turn 3
This is why I played lightrays with my hieractics
16:50 you cant attack with defense position monsters unless it specifically says that on the card
I still remember when heretics was $100 for a common card when pre orders happened.
Wait how did Shadow Shien help the Six Samurai deck I thought that card was bad
I know it would have been another hand loop deck but I remember being so hyped for Gishki Hieratics and being so disappointed when it got immediately hit. Definitely was healthy for the game but as Gishki fan still stings.
I can't wait til we see Black Garden Wind up Rabbit beat down either in this or in history of jank
Ok, so when Atum came out, the best deck to abuse it was not Hieratic but Dragunities
26:25 Yeeeeea but the deck your using compared to what MBT used last week isn't even close lol
Imagine you only know hieratics because of the gishki handloop. I was sad that they pre hit it :(
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Showing up in History of Jank to show how they made a Problem
Hieratics is cool but so insanely bricky, but it was a cool engine in Evigishki Hieratics since you can tribute them for Ritual Summons.
gawd i would've loved to see wind-up vs. karakuri that shit would've been intense.... or hilarious depending on the hands lmao
16:52 , windup magician special summons the monster in defence!!!
Man, oh man, Dragon Ruler Format is closer and closer.
Hieratic is one of my favorite decks. Even though I've never built one. I'd like to build one in master duel but I don't know how to build one.
Then look up a few decklists to get the frame of the deck and tweak it 'till it works for you
The more yu gi oh advances, the faster the games go by
I rember opening a bunch of legendary collection 2 and never pulling a single raioh despite it being a common