I love how desperate the Shadow Duelist tournaments are, it is blatantly Konami going "WE WANT THE MASKED SINGER AUDIENCE" but for Yu-Gi-Oh and it's hilarious
And the winner is ass lmaoo. The final duel was always bad with some misplays. It's not like the winner is MD worlds contender or YCS usual tops. The whole event is just a laughing stock at this point
The progression with Cross Duel was hilarious: 1. Gets revealed, is laggy, and crashes. 2. Releases, is laggy, crashes, and is super pay to win. 3. As it turns out the game is not pay to win because Z METAL TANK is actually the best card, but nobody cared at this point. 4. Silence 5. Death
@UncalibratedAimbot Basically, by virtue of being N/R, you could actually max out all its stuff, and it just had a strong blob of abilities. Dkayed made a video about it.
@@UncalibratedAimbot It had a skill that raised its stats each time you summoned. So if you could protect it and keep summoning stuff, it could end games before the rest could mount a meaningful defense.
Yeah games ran on too long for how little reward you got from it. You could make a really good deck, but you had to know what you were doing before starting the game or you were practically screwed. And if you wanted to try out a different deck, tough luck, it'll take forever...But the game was so much fun (when it worked). A PC port and more forgiving gacha would've fixed the biggest issues.
Dueling Network getting abolished at the same time as Master Rule 4 being instated definitely killed a lot of people's passion for the game. Happened to also occur at the same time we lost both of my group's local OTS and didn't touch the game again until Master Duel
Master rule 4 is by far the biggest blunder konami has ever done, to this day links are hated because of it and also caused the game to lose a lot of customers both in the US and in japan, in japan the game experienced like a 70% decline it was so crazy, game was legitimately saved by sky striker and master rule 5.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this. Both to lose my primary way to play and for the format to be so alienating after Links got added. Made me drop the game for a long time.
10:40 So, the biggest problem with with the Utopia name is how it affected the Zexal anime, in my opinion. Because the name "Hope" wasn't just a cool funny name they made for their boss monster, it was directly tied to the show's themes about "never giving up" and all that stuff. Which, yes, is not really groundbreaking literary content for a shonen anime aimed at children, but it's still like, one of the central premises of the show. This also meant that several moments and references in the show lost a lot of meaning, because whenever someone uses the word "hope" in jp Zexal, it's not just referring to the concept itself, but also alluding to the protagonist, either as a literary parallel or as an in-universe reference to the protagonist and the effect he's had on these characters. Like, the big final super boss monster that Shark uses in his final duel against Yuma is called "Barian Hope", which obviously represents it being the last hope of the Barian race, but also makes it a parallel to Yuma's ace. And when Kaito summons Prime Photon for the first time he shouts "This is my last hope! This is *our* last hope!". And all that stuff was thrown out the window because Hope is a girl's name. I don't even like Zexal that much I've only seen a couple episodes and I'm still salty.
That person has never seen Zexal and it shows not that they need to, but it throws their argument completely out of the window. If they just didn’t like the name, whatever, but this much fuss about the name Hope for a monster that is QUITE LITERALLY based on the concept of hope, in a show with themes such as Hope, is just silly and unnecessary to me.
Let's not forget he's just disingenuous about the names translation. He aays the names translation is King of Wishes but it's just a descriptor, but that isn't the full name of the card. The full name is *Numbers 39: Kibou Ou Hope* literally meaning *Number 39: Hope, the King of Wishes* . He translated only the title, said it was the full name, and then justified the change because "it's just a descriptor."
Oh also the whole premise of the Number hunting thing is a reference to Pandora's Box where the box unleashed all the evils in the world, but then the last thing in the box was You guessed it Hope
The Battle Pack tournament in San Diego would have gone better if we ACTUALLY drafted the packs instead of the judges handing us a box with a ton of loose cards. Some of the box contents were more put together than others, some people had hot garbage, but then i saw someone who had triple Duality, 3 Gorz, 3 Solemn J, and 3 Caius. There was also a conspiracy that the known players had decks crafted for them while the rest of us had jank.
A fun YCS if only because I got a Lance in my pool. But the fact full Frognarch was running around for some people was unhinged from a power level standpoint.
So it was a confirmed conspiracy? As in people conspired for an illegitimate advantage? Or are you using the word conspiracy as a substitute for rumor?
@@denofpigs2575 I assume, given the context, they meant "conspiracy theory", like, "people thought this was going on behind the scenes, but it was never proven so it could just be a rumor/paranoia." If they had confirmation I figure they'd use less... Ambiguoug phrasing.
Legacy of the Duelist is how I got into the game, but my god, is it barren. No voice acting, barely any music, static cutscenes, almost no animations, and to top it all off, _none of the Vrains duels have any story._ The worst part is that it still has random crashes to this day. Still, it was able to hold down the fort until Master Duel came out.
I think the DS/PSP games did a better job for me when it came to "hold down the fort" You play all of them, then you try to play Legacy of the Duelist and are like ??? Is this supposed to be newer than Tag Force?
Don't forget that Deck Building in LotD is also absolutely and unnecessarily bizarre: Each YGO series only has 5 vaguely character-themed booster packs WITH A MASSIVE POOL OF 300 CARDS EACH, with no ingame way to check what's actually inside aside from a generic completion number. You can make some estimated guesses based on the booster pack character, but god forbid if you wanna play an archetype that didn't get used by any of the characters. (Examples: Madolche is in Cathy Katherine's booster, the Ghost Girl handtraps somehow ended up with Solomon Muto). The deck builder also feels very unintuitive, and overall the game just leaves the impression that the developers just... didn't have any menu UI artist on their team. And yet, depressingly, for those looking for a singleplayer Yu Gi Oh game, LotD is STILL the best option, especially because it allws you to play reconstructions of the anime decks in the Story Mode for both Heroes and Villains. The rift between the game's card pool and the actual card game is just gonna get wider and wider though...
@@GeminiTasiri relying on an auto surrender script or save editing to get the points to get the fking packs... and looking up the card lists on an external website. That makes an incredibly good player experience
@@GeminiTasiri You'll legitimately have more fun with the Tag Force games if we're talking "reconstructions of anime decks"; LotD has...issues balancing deck fidelity and actual playability. For example, with the GX campaign duel against Satorius, they'll make you play the unironic brickfest that is Jaden's HERO Flash deck as per the anime, and then put an Agents engine in the Satorius deck so the AI can turbo out the Arcana Force EXs. Or the final ZEXAL campaign where Astral has all the Utopia Xyzs, but because Number F0: Utopic Future wasn't printed back when the original LotD first came out in the Pendulum era all you have for Yuma's extra deck are the Gagagas and Djiins, and they never patched the decks to add F0 in Yuma's story deck for Link Evolution. Or just the fact that before the MR5 patch came out for Link Evolution you *straight up could not make any of the anime plays in the GX, 5Ds, ZEXAL or Arc-V campaigns* because the need for Links to do extra deck plays in MR4 means you were flat out STUCK having only one extra deck monster on the field with the story decks. [Oh, you want to tune level 8 Lifestream Dragon with level-modulated Level 1s Black Rose Dragon, Red Dragon Archfiend, Ancient Fairy Dragon and Black-Winged Dragon to Over Limit Accel Synchro Shooting Quasar Dragon? MR4 just said nah, no Links in Yusei's story deck so only 1 ED monster at most, maybe two with Monster Reborn] And yes, this means that there's the original LotD where the Yuya decks could pendulum summon all his pendulum monsters from the ED, and the later Link Evolution version where that's gone and the Yuya decks remain nerfed from their anime incarnations. [Also Tag Force lets you date the anime characters so that's one more point against LotD]
On the Dueling Network bit: it's not just that players are atomized. The game doesn't support casual play anymore. The speed the game would need to be at to keep DN's numbers would need to be the speed the game was at then. Yugioh is way too complex now which means the Pokémon Showdown style pick up and play aspect is dead. So now people just watch streams.
That's why the game needs a "limited action" format. Only 3 summons, 1 spell, and 2 traps can used per turn. This would make the game a lot more casual friendly.
If you've gone to Target or Walmart, the amount of incredible and fun product that Pokemon gets put alongside the samey and underwhelming shit Yugioh keeps putting out is genuinely disheartening.
My local Walmart has basically stopped carrying Yugioh. Maybe every 3 months or so the vendor brings in a single box of the new set, but that’s it. Between that and my Locals no longer selling Yugioh - while every other TCG seems to be doing just fine in comparison - kinda sucks. It’s not surprising, and thankfully the people I play with have a bunch of pet decks we switch between, but again, when you see what Pokemon puts on shelves for its own TCG, it’s not a good look. Granted Pokemon is one of the highest grossing IP’s of all time, so it’s not the best comparison, but still…
@@shanehaney6040 Pokemon is also a bit different because its not just for the game, the cards are just fun to open and collect because the games and anime make the characters feel more charming to open alongside the different rarities. Imagine if you could open a Shiny Star light Rare Sky Strike Ace Raye as the Sky Striker arc of the anime was airing because it was the deck carried your play through of the game, we would still be begging for packs on Christmas.
A local toy shop here had like a single box of Photon hypernova and nothing else. Meanwhile theres an entire section for Pokemon and consistently Lorcana packs at the counter. Yugioh just gets nothing in the casual stores.
@@lilsunny7399 usually yugioh are sold in anime merch shops in indonesia, the shop that sells figurines and stuff almost all of them would sell yugioh tbh, there are some dedicated shops that sell cards only but they mostly sells specific card game like vanguard, mtg or any bushiroad ip card game, only yugioh and pokemon that have widespread popularity in weebs commmunity which is by now a mainstream hobby.
I will always stan Cross Duel for the simple fact that it's the closest thing we've ever had to an official yugioh dating sim outside of the Tag Force series
I hope the TF games get brought to modern platforms as a collection. But even if that happens, the Japanese only ones will not get their text translated.
@@TechnizorI don't know why you'd suggest they wouldn't, every Japanese only game except for one (which had a US remake already) is being translated in early days collection.
Sucks for dire, but i'm glad MBT is giving this section a rest. I really don't want this to become a "I will react to what you guys post on Twitter" channel.
@@datvu9537 It's not really as easy as it looks. The TCG has less card games, but that's because the West is not into card games like the East is. There's card games releasing in the TCG, they just never get the attention and player base to live past a year.
@@SakuraAvalon Getting people to try Edison at my locals was like pulling teeth. Getting them to try HAT was nearly impossible. Getting them to try Speed Duel was fully impossible. Getting them to try other card games just doesn't work, even if they ALREADY HAVE ALL THE CARDS THEY NEED TO PLAY IT. Yugioh players have one speed and it's getting bilked by modern Yugioh at the speed of swiping their credit card for FOMO staples.
Easiest one of all TAG DUELS. They made a big deal about it it had several games and then was basically forgotten about. What's worse is that there were a few ways to play it and the only one they really cared about was the player switching one. The 2v2 each player having their own field was the closest we ever got to a free for all style version of multiple player.
2v2 and 4 people all v all were two of the most liked ways to play in my lgs back when, we even had tournaments for it...man i miss the synchro era were the game was slow enough for this
@fabianbockel5700 When I was in college close to 20 years back it was 1 of our favorite things to do withmy friends. Heck we even had rules for allowing the OCG promos and versions of cards 1 of my friends would buy because they were a lot more in to looking that stuff up. Basically if it was on any list is treated as such in all of our games. Free for all isn't really hard to do with the proper rule set. Oddly enough because we had so many players who even had to add a few rules to basically prevent a few OTKs once we started having 5+ player games. I really do think they could bring it back with a list and people would be all over it.
2v2 is so intensely fundamentally broken for Yu-Gi-Oh, but because it happened like twice in the show people keep trying to make it a thing. Y'all are deranged.
The thing about the Legacy of the Duelist Link Evolution 2020 update, was that it was never intended to be the last update. Not only did Other Ocean, the devs, make a promise of future updates on their Facebook page, but we've discovered card data for a bunch of cards from the next set or two in the game data, including Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon and Red Supernova Dragon. The only explanation why we didnt give further updates would have to be that Konami themselves pulled the plug because they were gearing up to push Master Duel.
Honestly? The coolest thing about Cross Duel is once Konami announced the end of service & gave everyone like 50 free pulls, the game was SO FUN & DIVERSE. It was all Z-Metal Tank (F2P option), Blue-Eyes (Budget pop option) & CCapac Apu (P2W) before that. But once the free update dropped, you saw SO MUCH more variety in Aces. Timegazer OTK could one shot, Sevens Road Magician was a great longcon strat that rewarded you for playing rng effects. XYZ Dragon Cannon could cheese the cards stored in it, Power Tool Dragon was basically an MTG-style Voltron deck, Magician of Black Chaos/Gilford the Lightning used terrain effects, and Junk Destroyer was a more combo-centric take on Z-Metal Tank What a cool, unique game concept that we will never see again. MORE YUGIOH GAMES THAT USE THE IP & AREN’T TCGs, PLEASE👍
I will never let konami live down the fact that they thought Sea Monster of Theseus was somehow one of the strongest cards of 2017. Theseus wasn't even the best card in the set it was in. Zoodiac Ratpier was literally in the same set. Ash Blossom was one set later.
I never heard of this debacle till now, but if they really wanted to make this card really strong, why not give it an actual effect beyond it needing 2+ tuners? They had so much to pull from in terms of the Ship of Theseus, but no, it just needs 2 tuners.
@@leoultimaupgraded9914 because at the time, instant fusion was one of the most used and abused cards, and synchros were very good at the time. so, the logic went, since we didn't have any tuners to just summon with it, giving a target with a decent level to instantly make the better synchros would usher an incredibly powerful card to destroy the meta for the rest of the year... then the monster was not only very awkward to use for the purpose it had (they fucked the level part badly for what most meta decks would need, for one), it didn't have any effect to help salvage it a little bit NOR powerful synchros released afterward that it could be used for to combat zoodiac being introduced to the meta...well, that's the reality we live in.
Everyone misquotes that article. They never said it was the best monster of 2017. They said it was the best NORMAL monster of 2017. Which is just the God's honest truth. It's a high level instafuse target that's also a tuner. You can zolkin with it. Far and away the best vanilla of 2017.
@@GeneralNicklesactually not true. The Konami blog from back then still exists. They called Theseus “one of the strongest monsters that will be released in 2017.”
If cross duel was a fever dream. Then me being a beta tester for the game was the best coma high I’ve ever experienced. I still have the email and screenshots from that time.😂 I honestly loved the daily and periodical interactions you could have with all the characters. Where else can I hear playmaker say “your a night owl too it looks like.”
Shadow Duelist attendent here, here's my experience -Round 1 was nuts, it took like 15 minutes to get through all the scoring. Sped up after 2nd round, though -After Round 2, it was announced that the Tops would increase from Top 16 to Top 32. -About halfway through the cup, about half of the participants dropped from the cup. -It was kind of depressing that a lot of conversation of the general chat was just "Everyone's dropping". Which makes sense but still -It was a LOT of people's first time at a tournament. It was mine too, but so many people I guess didn't actually read the doc. -The duels that were streamed weren't even live. They were replays played on Seereax's twitch, and NOT EVEN ON THEIR OWN CHANNEL- -The stream the day after was a mess. The first few duels they had to redo because the games kept crashing, which took forever.
12:48 Wow I just realize, that pose Yugi and Kaiba are doing on the tin is almost the same exact post that they're doing on the cover of upcoming Yu-Gi-Oh! Early Days Collection game coming soon. Like, they couldn't think of a unique pose ?
Legacy of the Duelist Link Evolution is extra sad that it never got updated, because there is like 500 more cards just sitting in the game indicating they were PLANNING on doing an update to add the next few sets and just never did. Thankfully modders can add it to the PC version but still, it's super sad that we can't have those officially. I'm not sure the exact sets, haven't kept up to well with paper set names, but Dragoon and the Adamancipators are in LoDLE, you just can't have them without modding.
Sadly the only reason Battle Pack 1 was massively successful was because it was the first real reprint of Tour Guide from the Underworld when it was still $200+. Yes a full year before the infamous Hanzo Tin supers. Then when the sequel sets released it was mostly bulk filler and they flopped. On top of MBT reasoning that yugioh players were still really snobby about alternate formats.
Speaking of failed video games, Yugioh duel generations A pretty nice looking mobile game that played by the tcg rules However, it was incredibly slow, there was no way to toggle off and pvp was even more laggy Rightfully it died pretty soon after duel links released
There a people remember Yugioh BAM ? Man that come back when i started FB but BAM closed and Yugioh Miniclip appear but close again because Duel Links comes
What about the time that the pack themed around WATER duelists from the anime was released with Mako Tsunami as the face character in the States (despite Shark being the face in the OCG) because someone wanted to appease the Yugi-boomers that badly? I remember people being quite unhappy about that at the time.
@@ShyRanger lets be honest, nostalgia bait tend to not doing well in ocg, why do you think the evil heroes in suda become bulk while others became expensive?
The Master Duel launch. Come back to yugioh with barely rendered Unity assets and hop into the only mode of ranked just to get punched in the face by full power Drytron
Duel Devestator was both really cool for players, and it was weird that it came from Konami, who are notorious for making money from gacha mechanics. The idea of $40 to get guaranteed staples is the antithesis to their entire business model. I swear it was an accident that they never meant to have go to market.
The craziest part too is that it underperformed on initial release which was crazy to me. I immediately bought 3 of nearly every staple. Literally the only time we ever got something so good for so cheap.
Hey MBT, great video, the BAM callback had me walking down memory lane. Just wanted to ask how often you update the names on the end cards since I recently became a YT member for your channel at the highest tier and was wondering when I'd be added to the other names.
Honestly, the Shadow Duelist idea they have now is a really fun idea, but they should just go crazy with it if they decide to do it again. I’m talking make the Shadow Duelist play actual Shadow Games a la Duel Monsters; beforehand, get a bunch of streamers and well-known players to play in staged duels against the Shadow Duelist where they lose and need to be freed by the players or something crazy like that
I still love cross duel. I pulled an early exodia and it was so fun to use. I will forever rep it's icon on MD. RIP cross duel. Like the christian man who died on you, you had to die for our sins.
Damn, when he brought up around 5:40- 5:50 really hit home. I love Yugioh but my locals are either cramped hobby stores full of Meta Slaves or a store that doesn’t cater to yugioh nearly as much as their other games to the point where its rarely advertised. As such, a player like myself who has enjoyed the game for 20+ years, I can wholeheartedly admit that its harder to play casual at my age and digital is the best way for me to engage and most of it is video or streaming in the background while i do paperwork
Genuinely mind boggling that Rush has been around almost 5 years in japan and at this point its card pool is so vast it would feel awkward in release cycle of trying to catch up in anyway. This has to be the main reason they haven't committed to it at this point because I have not heard a single person who loves yu-gi-oh but is burnt out who would not LOVE to be playing Rush
as if THAT would be a reason not do do it. Just don't release those normal monsters that nobody is playing and make the sets bigger. but yeah rush duels would be cool
Surprised it didn't come up in the video, but I'm sure the Twitter thread has it. The altering packs practice, since 2017, where they started taking OCG Stricture Decks, not releasing them over here, instead putting all the cards into core sets. So while OCG had/has no issue getting some cards cause they're in structures, TCG players are forced to buy in mass instead.
9:59 Note to self: do not mention Commander Format by name in my Ruleslayer Format video, or else I'll incite the yugiboomer mob that can't handle change in their children's card game (even though its an entirely optional format). I had to explain to my friend that the rules for deck masters in this homebrew format differ a bit from Konami's actual DM format, and he almost had a fucking stroke. Like, i wanted something that operates more like the commanders in Magic, where they don't do anything while they're outside of the game, can be summoned once per turn, and can be used repeatedly throughout the course of a game. I wanted decks to have their combos and end boards be built around their deck master, and I didn't want a situation where someone could make Thousand-Eyes Restrict their deck master, never summon it and floodgate the entire table.
@Lucy5456b That's another thing too: i wanted to make sure it felt distinct from Domain and Junior Format (since Ruleslayer has an "optional tribute summon" rule among other rule changes). Ruleslayer Format is inspired primarily by Junior Journey, Konami's Deck Master format, and MTG's Commander Format. It doesnt have the domain deck building restriction, so it plays like Modern Yugioh on crack. That being said, it's also going to support 2v2 games and 3+ player Free-For-All matches with new rules for how the board and chain links work. The short version is that "every player is getting their own 2 extra monster zones, and link arrows which point out of bounds will be able to target every other player's EMZs." I'll also be maintaining an adjusted Forbidden & Limited List along with a Legal Deck Master list, but i expect people will make their own forks of this project with their own banlists and deck master lists.
The handling of Rush Duels is why it will never come here. They couldn't even put in the effort for the investment of a video game. The physical card game would be more costly and more involved.
16:01 I was someone who came back thanks to Legacy of the Duelist. I remember link summoning giving me a massive headache, but now I do it all the time. Now I am Spectre. Really wish it got updated. I love Cross Duel so much, but even I was just waiting for it to be ported to PC. I can't believe they tried to keep it on phones. Now I'm on the Cross Duel discord just getting what I can out of it. *sigh* and it was such a perfect combination of past alternate styles of playing Yugioh. From DDM to Speed Duel.
16:20 Link Evolution did get one major update after the Master Rule Revisions, they added to the card pool and updated the rules accordingly so you could summon Fusions, Synchros, and XYZs to normal monster zones again.
8:26 I remember playing a Generation duels at YCS toronto one year. No one knew what they were doing, judges included. There had been an update to the lists a week before the YCS, so the guy who won the event was playing an illegal deep draw DM deck, and second place was almost the exact same deck. I ended up third or fourth playing Kozmo in GX format because it gave me a bunch of staples, and Metamorphosis. I remember an opponent getting mad because he was playing GX but only with the GX era cyber dragon stuff and nothing newer.
Link Evolution felt like the best single player YGO we could have, being able to play all those anime duels and then play them as the opponent killed so many empty hours during lockdown and I love it for that.
Number 39 being Utopia instead of Hope is still weird to me this day because of the references and context of the story. Tho I'm curious what the localized version of Utopic would be. King of Wishes seems too long
i sure wish bam was still playable on kongregate! or anywhere! i dont think anyone's even managed any sort of private server or anything either... game was fun but it really is just part of history now
Xavier Woods is the biggest athletic completely ripped nerd there is. He's such a big nerd they made a video game show where he was the host, and his soul purpose was to clown everybody in any game.
15:51 it feels like this is PRECISELY why they don't want to bring rush to the USA at this point, for as crazy as that sounds? because duel links is basically an app that doesn't print them as much money anymore, but they don't have to spend anything in distribution and printing that they already weren't doing for duel links itself, yet they don't want to stop having duel links be an extremely more predatory version of the paper card game that can't develop a secondary market where they can't make money from directly. ...this is the type of thought process one has to imagine to explain why ONLY duel links has rush duels.
MBT I’m very happy for you and the progress on your channel. I remember when your patron list was like 10 people and you actually read them off at the end of every video 😂 now it wouldn’t be possible. I always enjoy the videos man.
I am a little surprised that nobody mentioned how every single spinoff and or game series yugioh had in the 2000s crashed and imploded immediately or a few years after release ( dungeon dice monsters, capsule monsters, wheelie breakers, the pc games, and even the popular game series like world champion ship series and tag force eventually started getting lower sales that got them cancelled by 2010, not to mention 4kids themselves went bankrupt ), it just shows 1) how young the new playerbase is and 2) how silly the game is dying! allegations are, like my boy you have seen nothing
1. 4kids going bankrupt had nothing to do with yugioh, there's a ton of videos explaining it, if anything Yugioh saved their VAs because Konami bought them out to keep guys like Dan Green and Eric Stuart on their payroll. 2. The Videogames didn't "crash and implode immediately." Konami just didn't give a shit. DDM and Capsule Monster Colisseum were DOA anyway and Tag Force/WC were very popular, Tag Force lasted till 2014 in Japan while WC lasted till 2011. Plus with the "Early Days Collection" they're clearly trying to gauge interest in new single player games.
@ 1.’Konami would have cared about them if they made any substantial profit ( therefore they flopped) and 2. If the handheld games were so popular why did they stop making them? There is only one answer in the industry: the last releases didn’t sell enough, you can tell that by the fact the the early games have their sales numbers whereas the last games in the series don’t even have reported sales numbers, even the early days collection it started its marketing with the best selling games from the handheld era, dark duel stories 700k in japan alone, solid numbers, after that era not so much
One of the things about NA as a TCG market compared to Japan is that a TCG releases, is everywhere, and then completely dies in various regions but but sticks around in a few dedicated markets for one reason or another. I haven’t seen Keyforge in years but it still cracks the top 10. I’ve also never seen a game of Elestrals in person. But bet your bottom dollar I still see Dragonball Super Card Game still be played. My guess is that Konami knows that would be the fate of Rush, especially when almost no one under 20 even plays YGO here anymore. It can be rough and it’s a harder sell the longer it doesn’t release.
11:20 ok but actually. the japanese text shows you how to pronounce it. the name is 竜華 and it’s pronounced りゅうげ. just like how エレメンタルヒーロー tells you how to pronounceＥ・ＨＥＲＯ. instead of going with ryuuge or even Longhua which the chinese way of pronouncing 竜華, they just made up random ass shit (Apodrakosis). you’d think they’d learn when they tried calling swordsoul Xiangjian bc they were translating the chinese instead of the japanese that’s entire purpose is to show japanese people how to pronounce foreign characters
The YGorg people are super cool, and what they do as far as translating new OCG releases quickly so we can know what the cards do is great, but I wish they would stop taking so many liberties with how they translate archetype names. And I especially wish people would stop getting so attached to what they pick and refuse to call it the actual name when we see what Konami has chosen. I know this one isn't their fault but I'm still annoyed people call say "Exceed monster."
Considering the photo of Antoine Greizmann, how about when Konami stopped bringing Duel Disks overseas after the first Duel Academy Duel Disk? The states never got the Slifer Red Duel Disk, nor did we get either of the Yusei Duel Disks, which were vastly improved to the point that you could actually use them to duel casually and not worry about damaging your cards. But no, they can’t give us that. They can only give us Yusei’s Wrist Dealer.
genuine question can you ask dire or whoever edits these why the music in the background is even there because after i even realized it was there i spent like half of the video trying to find out if the music in the back was the riding music from pokemon sun and moon (which im like 90% sure it is) but it was really hard because the music is so so so quiet like i actually want to know why its even there please tell me i need to know please
the other half that doesnt get said out loud is that it was a bad format around the time vanguard came out and was pretty clearly targeted to be the yugioh killer. windup format gets pinned as a uniquely bad format when in reality it was just the only one where there was something interesting enough for people to jump ship to en masse at both the comp and casual levels.
@@3417gekkou What's funny is that there was a pretty terrible year of formats and especially product brewing when Bushiroad put out another super solid alternative TCG in 2023 in Shadowverse Evolve. But they're stuck in pre-TH-camr era advertising mode which meant the game came out and only drew in people who were already hyped for it, One Piece and Lorcana had a slapfight for market share, and now the second-string TCGs are just kind of vibing being healthy instead of imminently threatening Yugioh's market share and putting the spurs on like Vanguard did.
@@geek593 there are a signifigant amount of factors that seperate shadowverse in the 2020s to vanguard in 2010s but the biggest one is probably bushiroad's reputation (as well as cygames) went way way down. in the 2010s you would see bushi being propped up as like, kinda like a jp card game counterculture in regards to how much new ground vanguard was trying to break, whereas nowadays talk to any vanguard player and they will tell you that they would probably rather deal with konami.
By FAR the biggest blunder by Konami is the way they have genuinely killed this game with LGSs. I go to several different LGSs, and NONE of them even consider selling Yugioh anymore. They actively will not accept trade-in for store credit for cards, they dont stock packs, etc. They want nothing to do with the game anymore cause its always a financial loss for them. In a few years, I can only see this problem coming more and more to the forefront.
I gotta say, we got Rush in duel links and almost the entire player base at the time tried it on launch. A couple months in though we all dropped it because the gameplay was ass (hope you draw better than the opponent or die) and the game currency was shared with Speed, which meant you had to either choose one to keep playing or double your yugioh budget. And nowadays it's even harder to get back into rush because after everyone dropped it to go back to speed the queue times are almost a minute compared to Speed's 3 seconds, I've even seen a guy screenshot his KoG rank up winstreak of just being paired up against the same guy 5 times in a row. Tldr: the rush release in duel links had a lot of hope but Konami dropped the ball so hard that everyone dropped it to go back to Speed
The first "shadow duelist" was so bad I didn't even know there was a second one, let alone that actual Pro Wrestler and all around goat Xavier woods was part of it. Like I am a huge wrestling fan, and play yugioh a lot yet it was so ignorable that I didn't realize that it happened until this video. When it was first announced it sounded like it was going to be an event IN Master Duel where you'd duel the Shadow Duelist. I'm not even sure what the Shadow Duelist is, like is it just a social media video Konami puts out after enough people guess it, is it a livestream event, is it somehow also buried in Duel Links next to Rush duel? I have no idea what is going on with that.
if there's any reason Konami doesn't bring Rush over, it's because they're worried about self-cannibalization, right? i think they identified that the Japanese market is diverse and competitive enough that it could bear two very different conceptions of Yugioh simultaneously. in contrast, you bring Rush stateside, where do you think it's going to pull players from? Not Magic or Pokemon, that's for sure. TCG is already very expensive, so it's a hard ask to get a community frustrated by pricing for years to double down. A lot of people would choose either Rush or TCG. I don't know that TCG can survive at the same scale if Rush pops off and eats half the player base. It's easy to say "people will play both" but you can't really be sure. Plus, and this is kinda anecdotal/vibes-based at this point, but I think there's very few people who actively play multiple games in paper (unless it's something more indie like Elestrals on the side), and I think Yugioh fans are a lot more reluctant to fully migrate to another game for any number of reasons. Rush Duel is maybe too tempting as an offramp if you love the idea of Yugioh but you're maybe sick of actually playing it. (plus Speed Duel fell off entirely which cannot inspire confidence about introducing an alternate format generally lol)
A few things: 1. While the threat of self-cannibalization is there, to say it would split the playerbase in 2 is exceptionally inaccurate. If we're being generous, maybe around a third of the playerbase loves Rush, while the rest outright don't like it or don't care, so it's maybe a case of a loud minority. Also, since players who don't care about Rush rarely talk about it, you aren't immediately aware that there are a lot more players who wouldn't buy Rush packs outside of the ones who vehemently hate Rush for whatever reason. 2. The success of Rush is difficult to accurately gauge considering it carries the YGO brand name. Like, it's clear they aren't confident in it succeeding overseas the same way as in the OCG regions. You also gotta understand that CCGs tend to last at least a few years in JP, so, Rush may end up going the way of Future Card Buddyfight eventually, just not any time soon, since YGO is a much stronger brand than Vanguard.
As a Duel Links player i can confidently say the amount of Rush players vs Speed players is like a 1-4 ratio if even. It's got its fans but i don't think it would take a significant playerbase away from the TCG especially if they do it like duel links where they release good packs and constructed decks that don't cost an arm and both legs.
@@lilsunny7399 Are you 100% sure you're playing the same DL as everyone else? Like, yes, the Rush boxes and SDs were all good for the most part, but the monetization is insanely predatory. Rush gets more mini boxes, meaning you gotta go through the mini 3 times for the SRs alone. Couple that with the fractured gem economy, and it does in fact cost an arm and a leg to play both Speed and Rush competitively to an extent. But that's not the fault of Rush, that's Konami's fault for exploiting the playerbase.
@@blexanderAs a free to play player, I have all the cards I need, but sadly I dislike Cyberdragons and Ancient Gear Golem from GX, so despite having them I refuse to play them and constantly lose.
Anyone else remembers *Yu-gi-oh Online* from GX era? It was a somewhat YGO MMO where you could battle in Domino City or Duel Academy with NPC or other players and had to buy code cards to get cards as well as ability to duel. I remember I came across someone selling codes who managed to crack the system and for a limited time (a month or two) was just generating the codes acceptable by the game and was selling them for a quarter of the official price.
I was asleep for the whole remote duel discord server mess but I did get into a server that Shpee runs where we post an emote of Dzeef's distorted face every day for the past 4 years.
Also, for anyone that hasn't played Rush Duels, play the Switch game. It is much lower power and less consistent than what we have currently in Edopro, but it is fun and teaches you really quickly. DON'T PLAY Duel Links. It doesn't have the same ruleset. It is literally just Rush Duels, but with the same rule/mechanic changes Duel Links made for standard Yugioh, like half of the life/deck sizes and a skill system for some reason. I was excited for Rush on Duel Links until i played it and realized it wasnt actually Rush
14:50 Oh Yu-Gi-Oh! BAM, my beloved, it was my first way of actually playing the game since I've only watched my friends playing with playground rules, it was quite fun!
I think my favorite Konami 2024 failure was when they got fucking dunked on for the platinum DM card, then got dunked on for the silver god cards, then shut up about it after too much time getting dunked on. It was so damn funny
16:03 link evolution is probably the reason i ever got into "modern yugioh" i still played yugioh against bots but i used stuff like red-eyes. When link evolution came out i first made lunalight, then salamangreat and now im an advid "big combo" enjoyer
For the sake of what integrity you have left I'm proud of you for cutting down on Twitter threads but also unfortunately they're the only content I enjoy anymore so RIP.
Oh man Yu-Gi-Oh BAM! That, alongside Baseball Heroes (R.I.P.) are the reasons why I have Facebook account in the first place. I remember how weird it is to see Solemn Judgment as a Spellcaster Monster.
I suggest taking the unique card effect customizability of CrossDuel and make it a normal tabletop game. Make a pack of 7 normal cards (either by default, or stripping the effects away), and 1 a guaranteed rare effect monster (ex. Jinzo) and start with DM and DM-like cards from later eras (like weak effect monsters in newer eras that nobody uses with meh effects). Make it like a RPG, but Yugioh. Call it Yugioh Rogue, or Yugioh Break. (Rogue from the normal play/breaking the known effect rules of the normal game.) I'd love to play that. It would also make some funny content as well. KAIBA: "Sorry Yugi, but my Blue-Eyes White Dragon can't be destroyed by effects, deals piercing battle damage, and can attack twice per turn!" YUGI: "Activate Bottomless Trap Hole?" KAIBA: "IMPOSSIBLE!!!"
I asked in a dedicated Yu-Gi-Oh channel in a Discord server I’m in if they had tried Cross Duel. Nobody posted in that channel for a year until one of my friends noticed and laughed in my face.
Hot take: Battle Packs were cool in theory but lacking in execution. There were ample brick and bad cards, dated even by standards of Zexal era. There were a couple neat cards here or there, but extra deck monsters were neigh impossible to summon in the format because of the range of monsters. Had they done something like the Deck Build Packs, fairly generic archetypes with a few themes that can sonewhat knterchange with each other. It'd be far closer to achieving the goal of Battle Packs being draftable set that can be later played.
Obviously the decks were worse than constructed Zexal era. That's what a draft IS. Magic players had no expectation of being able to play Splinter Twin Combo in Tarkir Limited.
@geek593 I expect some level of cohesion in the packs. Dark Dust Spirit and Buster Blader aren't things to be seeing in a set that lacks any meaningful way of getting to them outside of praying that your two monsters can survive just long enough to tribute to summon them. Especially in a set that contains the likes of Pot of Greed, Raigeki, and Cyber Jar (which is also a questionable card for a limited set). Like I said, I'd expect some more tempered, especially on a first flight. No banned cards, no absolute garbage, more lower to the ground with some bigger bodies that can be somewhat reasonably be summoned and generic good spells/traps that offer some decent utility, but don't warp the pace of the game.
You were playing battle pack wrong. Battle pack rules dictated that ALL monsters were of ALL monster types simultaneously to make meeting conditions much easier.
@@jeanpitre5789 that just makes Battle Packs even worse. There were already few cards that cared about typing Machina Fortress being one of them so the rule almost becomes completely moot. Had the packs been focused on a few types with some intermediary cards that could tie decks together then it'd be far more engaging to draft with. Imagine a Battle Pack that focused on Tri-Brigade's trio of types and packs contained archetypes that fit under those tri-type. Other card games don't suffer the same drafting issues because they use resources which means that cards can eventually be played to some capacity with relative ease. Battle Pack 1 having something like Dark Dust Spirit is inexcusable.
@otterfire4712 I disagree. They were good they just made the card pool overly large so it felt like you couldn't make a solid deck out of pulls. That's likely the issue you were having.
7:09 as someone who enjoys and has enjoyed yugioh for a while but is a casual, it did get mad confusing when “something” happens like new cards or rule changes 😭 I didn’t realize we had like 3+ formats running at the same time for the longest (I too am broke and only play master duel)
I'll add one that I think was pretty bad since it impacted a person's livelihood: The firing of Oliver Gehrmann. Dude was the face of European YCSs, and translated cards into German, and was involved in YUGIOh since the Upper Deck era. Farfa asked him if he wanted to do an interview and Oliver was down as long as he got permission from Konami. So he asked the people at Konami EU that he worked with since he was a freelancer and they said "that's fine as long as you make clear you're not an employee and don't speak for the company." Oliver did the interview and kept to the rules but then someone high up at Konami JP saw the interview and without asking for context or anything else just told Konami EU to fire the poor guy.
Duel Arena from Miniclip was an official Konami browser game and there was so much wrong with it as microtransactions pretty much killed the game from ever reaching to it's 1st anniversary.
My biggest issue with modern Yugioh is that we get no cool video games, nowadays we can’t just expect a game like Duelist of the roses or Forbidden memories to spice up the format, and therein ant problems the game has are so much easier to pick out and make fun of, because there’s no good alternative
5:20 I don't think the OSS ban was just to push product, even though that's a large part of the effect. The decks been the top deck for almost a year. The alternative would be to hit flamberge, but leaving OSS still generates a ton of card advantage. Banning it but leaving flamberge alone means that the "plan" for snake eyes still works as an archetype, it's just inconsistent.
Literally posted this in the thread just now, but something that was flopped hard is the combination of Duel Devastator, Legendary Duelist and Hidden Arsenal. Devastator seems like a home run series to continuously reprint yearly staples and have them in 100% pull rate storage boxes with cool trinkets to keep you interested, right? Nope. Done once 6 years ago now and never again. Legendary Duelist could be a fantastic vessel as a set to target themed Time Wizard formats, right? Nope! Shove 2 meta staples in the set and rarity downshift a bunch of rogueish decks based around rough attributes that a niche side character used that will never see the light of day even at locals (Shoutout to Richmond Salamgreat Man though, my GOAT). Hidden Arsenal, shake some more Duel Terminal Rarity treatment into more cards? Reprint some Duel Terminal cards so they see the light of day again? Hell no! Print one wave of reprinted Naturia and then never do it again. Legendary Duelist is a fumbled bag twice over because Konami even tried to rebrand it as not a miniset but just full out microboxes instead of Deck Build Pack style.
I love how desperate the Shadow Duelist tournaments are, it is blatantly Konami going "WE WANT THE MASKED SINGER AUDIENCE" but for Yu-Gi-Oh and it's hilarious
And the winner is ass lmaoo. The final duel was always bad with some misplays. It's not like the winner is MD worlds contender or YCS usual tops. The whole event is just a laughing stock at this point
I am a fan of the Masked Singer Uk version, but currently on the fence with this kind of tournie. 😅
The recent survey in master duel asked me about several masked duelist players. I didn’t even know they there was more than 1 masked duelist event.
Same, I thought it was just that one guy and then it was done 😂
The progression with Cross Duel was hilarious:
1. Gets revealed, is laggy, and crashes.
2. Releases, is laggy, crashes, and is super pay to win.
3. As it turns out the game is not pay to win because Z METAL TANK is actually the best card, but nobody cared at this point.
4. Silence
5. Death
I never played. What made ZMT so op?
@UncalibratedAimbot Basically, by virtue of being N/R, you could actually max out all its stuff, and it just had a strong blob of abilities. Dkayed made a video about it.
It had so much potential to be good. The base idea was honestly good, the yugioh IP worked really well for it but nah, they just didnt want to.
@@UncalibratedAimbot It had a skill that raised its stats each time you summoned. So if you could protect it and keep summoning stuff, it could end games before the rest could mount a meaningful defense.
Yeah games ran on too long for how little reward you got from it. You could make a really good deck, but you had to know what you were doing before starting the game or you were practically screwed. And if you wanted to try out a different deck, tough luck, it'll take forever...But the game was so much fun (when it worked). A PC port and more forgiving gacha would've fixed the biggest issues.
Dueling Network getting abolished at the same time as Master Rule 4 being instated definitely killed a lot of people's passion for the game. Happened to also occur at the same time we lost both of my group's local OTS and didn't touch the game again until Master Duel
Master rule 4 is by far the biggest blunder konami has ever done, to this day links are hated because of it and also caused the game to lose a lot of customers both in the US and in japan, in japan the game experienced like a 70% decline it was so crazy, game was legitimately saved by sky striker and master rule 5.
I usually just play with friends, and for the entirety of Master Rule 4 we just ignored it and played with MR3 rulings instead.
@@zander2758even in MR 5 link summoning become so broken and makes the problem in the game become much much worse
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt this. Both to lose my primary way to play and for the format to be so alienating after Links got added. Made me drop the game for a long time.
@@zander2758 No wonder Sky Striker is highly favored by Konami, it literally saved the game
10:40 So, the biggest problem with with the Utopia name is how it affected the Zexal anime, in my opinion. Because the name "Hope" wasn't just a cool funny name they made for their boss monster, it was directly tied to the show's themes about "never giving up" and all that stuff. Which, yes, is not really groundbreaking literary content for a shonen anime aimed at children, but it's still like, one of the central premises of the show.
This also meant that several moments and references in the show lost a lot of meaning, because whenever someone uses the word "hope" in jp Zexal, it's not just referring to the concept itself, but also alluding to the protagonist, either as a literary parallel or as an in-universe reference to the protagonist and the effect he's had on these characters.
Like, the big final super boss monster that Shark uses in his final duel against Yuma is called "Barian Hope", which obviously represents it being the last hope of the Barian race, but also makes it a parallel to Yuma's ace. And when Kaito summons Prime Photon for the first time he shouts "This is my last hope! This is *our* last hope!".
And all that stuff was thrown out the window because Hope is a girl's name.
I don't even like Zexal that much I've only seen a couple episodes and I'm still salty.
That person has never seen Zexal and it shows
not that they need to, but it throws their argument completely out of the window.
If they just didn’t like the name, whatever, but this much fuss about the name Hope for a monster that is QUITE LITERALLY based on the concept of hope, in a show with themes such as Hope, is just silly and unnecessary to me.
I feel that annoyance when Ra got printed and they made it so you can't Special Summon him, botching the entire lore and use behind the card.
Let's not forget he's just disingenuous about the names translation. He aays the names translation is King of Wishes but it's just a descriptor, but that isn't the full name of the card. The full name is *Numbers 39: Kibou Ou Hope* literally meaning *Number 39: Hope, the King of Wishes* .
He translated only the title, said it was the full name, and then justified the change because "it's just a descriptor."
Also it's even worse in hindsight cause BARIAN HOPE IS STILL CALLED BARIAN HOPE.
Oh also the whole premise of the Number hunting thing is a reference to Pandora's Box where the box unleashed all the evils in the world, but then the last thing in the box was
You guessed it
Hope
The Battle Pack tournament in San Diego would have gone better if we ACTUALLY drafted the packs instead of the judges handing us a box with a ton of loose cards. Some of the box contents were more put together than others, some people had hot garbage, but then i saw someone who had triple Duality, 3 Gorz, 3 Solemn J, and 3 Caius. There was also a conspiracy that the known players had decks crafted for them while the rest of us had jank.
What the hell?????
A fun YCS if only because I got a Lance in my pool. But the fact full Frognarch was running around for some people was unhinged from a power level standpoint.
So it was a confirmed conspiracy? As in people conspired for an illegitimate advantage?
Or are you using the word conspiracy as a substitute for rumor?
@@denofpigs2575 I mean if the judges are cheating theres no one to catch them lmao
@@denofpigs2575 I assume, given the context, they meant "conspiracy theory", like, "people thought this was going on behind the scenes, but it was never proven so it could just be a rumor/paranoia." If they had confirmation I figure they'd use less... Ambiguoug phrasing.
Legacy of the Duelist is how I got into the game, but my god, is it barren.
No voice acting, barely any music, static cutscenes, almost no animations, and to top it all off, _none of the Vrains duels have any story._ The worst part is that it still has random crashes to this day. Still, it was able to hold down the fort until Master Duel came out.
I think the DS/PSP games did a better job for me when it came to "hold down the fort"
You play all of them, then you try to play Legacy of the Duelist and are like ??? Is this supposed to be newer than Tag Force?
I like how you say "hold down the fort" like it wasn't just a downgrade from the Tag Force games in terms of presentation and actual play experience.
Don't forget that Deck Building in LotD is also absolutely and unnecessarily bizarre: Each YGO series only has 5 vaguely character-themed booster packs WITH A MASSIVE POOL OF 300 CARDS EACH, with no ingame way to check what's actually inside aside from a generic completion number. You can make some estimated guesses based on the booster pack character, but god forbid if you wanna play an archetype that didn't get used by any of the characters. (Examples: Madolche is in Cathy Katherine's booster, the Ghost Girl handtraps somehow ended up with Solomon Muto). The deck builder also feels very unintuitive, and overall the game just leaves the impression that the developers just... didn't have any menu UI artist on their team.
And yet, depressingly, for those looking for a singleplayer Yu Gi Oh game, LotD is STILL the best option, especially because it allws you to play reconstructions of the anime decks in the Story Mode for both Heroes and Villains. The rift between the game's card pool and the actual card game is just gonna get wider and wider though...
@@GeminiTasiri relying on an auto surrender script or save editing to get the points to get the fking packs... and looking up the card lists on an external website. That makes an incredibly good player experience
@@GeminiTasiri You'll legitimately have more fun with the Tag Force games if we're talking "reconstructions of anime decks"; LotD has...issues balancing deck fidelity and actual playability.
For example, with the GX campaign duel against Satorius, they'll make you play the unironic brickfest that is Jaden's HERO Flash deck as per the anime, and then put an Agents engine in the Satorius deck so the AI can turbo out the Arcana Force EXs.
Or the final ZEXAL campaign where Astral has all the Utopia Xyzs, but because Number F0: Utopic Future wasn't printed back when the original LotD first came out in the Pendulum era all you have for Yuma's extra deck are the Gagagas and Djiins, and they never patched the decks to add F0 in Yuma's story deck for Link Evolution.
Or just the fact that before the MR5 patch came out for Link Evolution you *straight up could not make any of the anime plays in the GX, 5Ds, ZEXAL or Arc-V campaigns* because the need for Links to do extra deck plays in MR4 means you were flat out STUCK having only one extra deck monster on the field with the story decks.
[Oh, you want to tune level 8 Lifestream Dragon with level-modulated Level 1s Black Rose Dragon, Red Dragon Archfiend, Ancient Fairy Dragon and Black-Winged Dragon to Over Limit Accel Synchro Shooting Quasar Dragon? MR4 just said nah, no Links in Yusei's story deck so only 1 ED monster at most, maybe two with Monster Reborn]
And yes, this means that there's the original LotD where the Yuya decks could pendulum summon all his pendulum monsters from the ED, and the later Link Evolution version where that's gone and the Yuya decks remain nerfed from their anime incarnations.
[Also Tag Force lets you date the anime characters so that's one more point against LotD]
On the Dueling Network bit: it's not just that players are atomized. The game doesn't support casual play anymore. The speed the game would need to be at to keep DN's numbers would need to be the speed the game was at then. Yugioh is way too complex now which means the Pokémon Showdown style pick up and play aspect is dead. So now people just watch streams.
That's why the game needs a "limited action" format.
Only 3 summons, 1 spell, and 2 traps can used per turn.
This would make the game a lot more casual friendly.
If you've gone to Target or Walmart, the amount of incredible and fun product that Pokemon gets put alongside the samey and underwhelming shit Yugioh keeps putting out is genuinely disheartening.
My target still has a full rack of tins that nobody wants
My local Walmart has basically stopped carrying Yugioh. Maybe every 3 months or so the vendor brings in a single box of the new set, but that’s it.
Between that and my Locals no longer selling Yugioh - while every other TCG seems to be doing just fine in comparison - kinda sucks. It’s not surprising, and thankfully the people I play with have a bunch of pet decks we switch between, but again, when you see what Pokemon puts on shelves for its own TCG, it’s not a good look.
Granted Pokemon is one of the highest grossing IP’s of all time, so it’s not the best comparison, but still…
@@shanehaney6040
Pokemon is also a bit different because its not just for the game, the cards are just fun to open and collect because the games and anime make the characters feel more charming to open alongside the different rarities.
Imagine if you could open a Shiny Star light Rare Sky Strike Ace Raye as the Sky Striker arc of the anime was airing because it was the deck carried your play through of the game, we would still be begging for packs on Christmas.
A local toy shop here had like a single box of Photon hypernova and nothing else. Meanwhile theres an entire section for Pokemon and consistently Lorcana packs at the counter.
Yugioh just gets nothing in the casual stores.
@@lilsunny7399 usually yugioh are sold in anime merch shops in indonesia, the shop that sells figurines and stuff almost all of them would sell yugioh tbh, there are some dedicated shops that sell cards only but they mostly sells specific card game like vanguard, mtg or any bushiroad ip card game, only yugioh and pokemon that have widespread popularity in weebs commmunity which is by now a mainstream hobby.
Yugioh being the "I'm not like other girls" of card games was not something I expected to hear today.
What, is “no mana, no mulligan, no limited, no side format supports” not enough indication for you?
I will always stan Cross Duel for the simple fact that it's the closest thing we've ever had to an official yugioh dating sim outside of the Tag Force series
I miss cross duel
I miss it a lot
I hope the TF games get brought to modern platforms as a collection. But even if that happens, the Japanese only ones will not get their text translated.
@@TechnizorI don't know why you'd suggest they wouldn't, every Japanese only game except for one (which had a US remake already) is being translated in early days collection.
this is the longest twitter thread ive seen and its about konamis failures...🤔
Until the next one that is made.
19:06 oh no dire is out of a job
Sucks for dire, but i'm glad MBT is giving this section a rest. I really don't want this to become a "I will react to what you guys post on Twitter" channel.
"you have to beat out elestrals" as if elestrals has even half the player base of waifu armpit simulator
isn't that's the point? What MBT meant is that it's so easy to cross the bar.
@@datvu9537 It's not really as easy as it looks. The TCG has less card games, but that's because the West is not into card games like the East is.
There's card games releasing in the TCG, they just never get the attention and player base to live past a year.
Even got a bit of delusion in there to think that Elestrals would be anywhere even close to the Top 5 TCGs domestically
@@SakuraAvalon Getting people to try Edison at my locals was like pulling teeth. Getting them to try HAT was nearly impossible. Getting them to try Speed Duel was fully impossible. Getting them to try other card games just doesn't work, even if they ALREADY HAVE ALL THE CARDS THEY NEED TO PLAY IT. Yugioh players have one speed and it's getting bilked by modern Yugioh at the speed of swiping their credit card for FOMO staples.
@@geek593 Sadly, yes.
Easiest one of all TAG DUELS. They made a big deal about it it had several games and then was basically forgotten about. What's worse is that there were a few ways to play it and the only one they really cared about was the player switching one. The 2v2 each player having their own field was the closest we ever got to a free for all style version of multiple player.
2v2 and 4 people all v all were two of the most liked ways to play in my lgs back when, we even had tournaments for it...man i miss the synchro era were the game was slow enough for this
@fabianbockel5700 When I was in college close to 20 years back it was 1 of our favorite things to do withmy friends. Heck we even had rules for allowing the OCG promos and versions of cards 1 of my friends would buy because they were a lot more in to looking that stuff up. Basically if it was on any list is treated as such in all of our games.
Free for all isn't really hard to do with the proper rule set. Oddly enough because we had so many players who even had to add a few rules to basically prevent a few OTKs once we started having 5+ player games. I really do think they could bring it back with a list and people would be all over it.
2v2 is so intensely fundamentally broken for Yu-Gi-Oh, but because it happened like twice in the show people keep trying to make it a thing. Y'all are deranged.
I love that the post credits has a double meaning between "we're cutting down Twitter Threads" and "also Dire has no audio".
"Cutting down on twitter threads"
Is it finally time? Are we getting Bluesky threads?
The thing about the Legacy of the Duelist Link Evolution 2020 update, was that it was never intended to be the last update. Not only did Other Ocean, the devs, make a promise of future updates on their Facebook page, but we've discovered card data for a bunch of cards from the next set or two in the game data, including Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon and Red Supernova Dragon. The only explanation why we didnt give further updates would have to be that Konami themselves pulled the plug because they were gearing up to push Master Duel.
Honestly? The coolest thing about Cross Duel is once Konami announced the end of service & gave everyone like 50 free pulls, the game was SO FUN & DIVERSE. It was all Z-Metal Tank (F2P option), Blue-Eyes (Budget pop option) & CCapac Apu (P2W) before that. But once the free update dropped, you saw SO MUCH more variety in Aces.
Timegazer OTK could one shot, Sevens Road Magician was a great longcon strat that rewarded you for playing rng effects. XYZ Dragon Cannon could cheese the cards stored in it, Power Tool Dragon was basically an MTG-style Voltron deck, Magician of Black Chaos/Gilford the Lightning used terrain effects, and Junk Destroyer was a more combo-centric take on Z-Metal Tank
What a cool, unique game concept that we will never see again.
MORE YUGIOH GAMES THAT USE THE IP & AREN’T TCGs, PLEASE👍
Also Gagaga Magician if you like having a buff dispenser that never dies and Firewall Dragon and Gaia the Fierce Knight as the meme OTK options
@@selectivepontification8766 It’s crazy how Firewall would just sit there for 7 turns & then suddenly delete someone on the 8th
I will never let konami live down the fact that they thought Sea Monster of Theseus was somehow one of the strongest cards of 2017. Theseus wasn't even the best card in the set it was in. Zoodiac Ratpier was literally in the same set. Ash Blossom was one set later.
I never heard of this debacle till now, but if they really wanted to make this card really strong, why not give it an actual effect beyond it needing 2+ tuners?
They had so much to pull from in terms of the Ship of Theseus, but no, it just needs 2 tuners.
@@leoultimaupgraded9914It's just meant to be summoned with instant fusion
@@leoultimaupgraded9914 because at the time, instant fusion was one of the most used and abused cards, and synchros were very good at the time. so, the logic went, since we didn't have any tuners to just summon with it, giving a target with a decent level to instantly make the better synchros would usher an incredibly powerful card to destroy the meta for the rest of the year...
then the monster was not only very awkward to use for the purpose it had (they fucked the level part badly for what most meta decks would need, for one), it didn't have any effect to help salvage it a little bit NOR powerful synchros released afterward that it could be used for to combat zoodiac being introduced to the meta...well, that's the reality we live in.
Everyone misquotes that article.
They never said it was the best monster of 2017.
They said it was the best NORMAL monster of 2017.
Which is just the God's honest truth. It's a high level instafuse target that's also a tuner. You can zolkin with it. Far and away the best vanilla of 2017.
@@GeneralNicklesactually not true. The Konami blog from back then still exists. They called Theseus “one of the strongest monsters that will be released in 2017.”
If cross duel was a fever dream. Then me being a beta tester for the game was the best coma high I’ve ever experienced. I still have the email and screenshots from that time.😂
I honestly loved the daily and periodical interactions you could have with all the characters. Where else can I hear playmaker say “your a night owl too it looks like.”
Shadow Duelist attendent here, here's my experience
-Round 1 was nuts, it took like 15 minutes to get through all the scoring. Sped up after 2nd round, though
-After Round 2, it was announced that the Tops would increase from Top 16 to Top 32.
-About halfway through the cup, about half of the participants dropped from the cup.
-It was kind of depressing that a lot of conversation of the general chat was just "Everyone's dropping". Which makes sense but still
-It was a LOT of people's first time at a tournament. It was mine too, but so many people I guess didn't actually read the doc.
-The duels that were streamed weren't even live. They were replays played on Seereax's twitch, and NOT EVEN ON THEIR OWN CHANNEL-
-The stream the day after was a mess. The first few duels they had to redo because the games kept crashing, which took forever.
12:48 Wow I just realize, that pose Yugi and Kaiba are doing on the tin is almost the same exact post that they're doing on the cover of upcoming Yu-Gi-Oh! Early Days Collection game coming soon. Like, they couldn't think of a unique pose ?
It's stock art. The Yugi and Kaiba tins art is also on the Duelist Pack Battle City. They do this quite often.
Instead of Griezman and Zayn, that one US sprinter who always bring 1 card for every match ,could promote yugioh much better than them both .
Noah Lyles?
I really miss Yugioh BAM. That was so fun and interesting
WHERE IS RUSH 😭
I love Rush. Tom Sawyer is my favourite rock song
Why would Joseph talk about Rush? They're successful and good
It's only a flop if they try
In the trash, where it belongs
@@mariopikaman1 yeah, they're successful and good and yet they're not here in the states. That's the flop
"hOpE iS a gIrLs nAmE"
sorry but Number 39: Hope, King of Wishes >>>>> Number 39: Utopia
Nobody should have been bothered by the name change
Then Abyss Actor - Wild Hope released in the sets after Arc-V's finale unchanged. lel
@@goomyiscute777 still surprised they didn’t go with “Wish King - Hope”
1:30 I'm convinced you choose this thread to start 2025 just because of this immaculate joke.
Legacy of the Duelist Link Evolution is extra sad that it never got updated, because there is like 500 more cards just sitting in the game indicating they were PLANNING on doing an update to add the next few sets and just never did. Thankfully modders can add it to the PC version but still, it's super sad that we can't have those officially. I'm not sure the exact sets, haven't kept up to well with paper set names, but Dragoon and the Adamancipators are in LoDLE, you just can't have them without modding.
Sadly the only reason Battle Pack 1 was massively successful was because it was the first real reprint of Tour Guide from the Underworld when it was still $200+. Yes a full year before the infamous Hanzo Tin supers. Then when the sequel sets released it was mostly bulk filler and they flopped. On top of MBT reasoning that yugioh players were still really snobby about alternate formats.
Speaking of failed video games, Yugioh duel generations
A pretty nice looking mobile game that played by the tcg rules
However, it was incredibly slow, there was no way to toggle off and pvp was even more laggy
Rightfully it died pretty soon after duel links released
There a people remember Yugioh BAM ?
Man that come back when i started FB but BAM closed and Yugioh Miniclip appear but close again because Duel Links comes
I will stan Cross duel till the day I die, it was fun as hell
@@DoeSeeDoe123 Outside of Ccapac Apu, that game was insanely unique & fun. We need more YuGiOh games that use the IP & aren’t the traditional tcg
What about the time that the pack themed around WATER duelists from the anime was released with Mako Tsunami as the face character in the States (despite Shark being the face in the OCG) because someone wanted to appease the Yugi-boomers that badly? I remember people being quite unhappy about that at the time.
Didn't it also have a new very stock background too? That might be something else.
@@ShyRanger It just used hos DL art, and was lazily put together, yeah. The OCG one used new art I believe, and looked much nicer
@@ShyRanger lets be honest, nostalgia bait tend to not doing well in ocg, why do you think the evil heroes in suda become bulk while others became expensive?
I never want to see MBT with longer hair ever again
The Master Duel launch. Come back to yugioh with barely rendered Unity assets and hop into the only mode of ranked just to get punched in the face by full power Drytron
The rant about DN going down was so perfectly accurate 👌♥️
Duel Devestator was both really cool for players, and it was weird that it came from Konami, who are notorious for making money from gacha mechanics. The idea of $40 to get guaranteed staples is the antithesis to their entire business model. I swear it was an accident that they never meant to have go to market.
we really need a new one.
The craziest part too is that it underperformed on initial release which was crazy to me. I immediately bought 3 of nearly every staple. Literally the only time we ever got something so good for so cheap.
I want rush duel so bad. We probably won’t get it because speed duel was a fail
which was handled just very poorly
Hey MBT, great video, the BAM callback had me walking down memory lane.
Just wanted to ask how often you update the names on the end cards since I recently became a YT member for your channel at the highest tier and was wondering when I'd be added to the other names.
Honestly, the Shadow Duelist idea they have now is a really fun idea, but they should just go crazy with it if they decide to do it again. I’m talking make the Shadow Duelist play actual Shadow Games a la Duel Monsters; beforehand, get a bunch of streamers and well-known players to play in staged duels against the Shadow Duelist where they lose and need to be freed by the players or something crazy like that
I still love cross duel. I pulled an early exodia and it was so fun to use. I will forever rep it's icon on MD. RIP cross duel. Like the christian man who died on you, you had to die for our sins.
@@skilledsummoner4274 I played on iPhone so I couldn’t get the icon… super jealous of everyone who has it
Damn, when he brought up around 5:40- 5:50 really hit home. I love Yugioh but my locals are either cramped hobby stores full of Meta Slaves or a store that doesn’t cater to yugioh nearly as much as their other games to the point where its rarely advertised. As such, a player like myself who has enjoyed the game for 20+ years, I can wholeheartedly admit that its harder to play casual at my age and digital is the best way for me to engage and most of it is video or streaming in the background while i do paperwork
Genuinely mind boggling that Rush has been around almost 5 years in japan and at this point its card pool is so vast it would feel awkward in release cycle of trying to catch up in anyway. This has to be the main reason they haven't committed to it at this point because I have not heard a single person who loves yu-gi-oh but is burnt out who would not LOVE to be playing Rush
as if THAT would be a reason not do do it. Just don't release those normal monsters that nobody is playing and make the sets bigger.
but yeah rush duels would be cool
Hi, I will be the first player you will hear from that dislikes Rush while also being burnt out on the TCG. There's plenty of us, actually.
@@goldengrimlock tbh i also though that way but after playing the Switch game... my impression totally changed
@ I’ve played plenty of games on EDO. My opinion of it has only gotten worse with GO Rush era
@@goldengrimlockin what way?
Surprised it didn't come up in the video, but I'm sure the Twitter thread has it.
The altering packs practice, since 2017, where they started taking OCG Stricture Decks, not releasing them over here, instead putting all the cards into core sets. So while OCG had/has no issue getting some cards cause they're in structures, TCG players are forced to buy in mass instead.
They've cut this down a bit recently, they still did it with Mermail but we at least got Fire King and are getting Blue-Eyes
9:59 Note to self: do not mention Commander Format by name in my Ruleslayer Format video, or else I'll incite the yugiboomer mob that can't handle change in their children's card game (even though its an entirely optional format).
I had to explain to my friend that the rules for deck masters in this homebrew format differ a bit from Konami's actual DM format, and he almost had a fucking stroke. Like, i wanted something that operates more like the commanders in Magic, where they don't do anything while they're outside of the game, can be summoned once per turn, and can be used repeatedly throughout the course of a game. I wanted decks to have their combos and end boards be built around their deck master, and I didn't want a situation where someone could make Thousand-Eyes Restrict their deck master, never summon it and floodgate the entire table.
Domain format is a things it's quite cool and more people need to play it for it to become a thing
@Lucy5456b That's another thing too: i wanted to make sure it felt distinct from Domain and Junior Format (since Ruleslayer has an "optional tribute summon" rule among other rule changes).
Ruleslayer Format is inspired primarily by Junior Journey, Konami's Deck Master format, and MTG's Commander Format. It doesnt have the domain deck building restriction, so it plays like Modern Yugioh on crack. That being said, it's also going to support 2v2 games and 3+ player Free-For-All matches with new rules for how the board and chain links work. The short version is that "every player is getting their own 2 extra monster zones, and link arrows which point out of bounds will be able to target every other player's EMZs."
I'll also be maintaining an adjusted Forbidden & Limited List along with a Legal Deck Master list, but i expect people will make their own forks of this project with their own banlists and deck master lists.
@Lucy5456b the absolute delusion, good luck trying, not going to happens lmao
The handling of Rush Duels is why it will never come here.
They couldn't even put in the effort for the investment of a video game. The physical card game would be more costly and more involved.
Yeah cause it won’t succeed
16:01 I was someone who came back thanks to Legacy of the Duelist. I remember link summoning giving me a massive headache, but now I do it all the time. Now I am Spectre. Really wish it got updated.
I love Cross Duel so much, but even I was just waiting for it to be ported to PC. I can't believe they tried to keep it on phones. Now I'm on the Cross Duel discord just getting what I can out of it. *sigh* and it was such a perfect combination of past alternate styles of playing Yugioh. From DDM to Speed Duel.
Yugioh Bam was literally nothing like Yugioh and I vaguely remember master gig being OP because big number, and I Loved it to death.
16:20 Link Evolution did get one major update after the Master Rule Revisions, they added to the card pool and updated the rules accordingly so you could summon Fusions, Synchros, and XYZs to normal monster zones again.
8:26 I remember playing a Generation duels at YCS toronto one year. No one knew what they were doing, judges included. There had been an update to the lists a week before the YCS, so the guy who won the event was playing an illegal deep draw DM deck, and second place was almost the exact same deck.
I ended up third or fourth playing Kozmo in GX format because it gave me a bunch of staples, and Metamorphosis. I remember an opponent getting mad because he was playing GX but only with the GX era cyber dragon stuff and nothing newer.
18:57 Is it because you're migrating to BlueSky?
1:35 it took my five seconds to process this joke, but when it landed I was howling
Link Evolution felt like the best single player YGO we could have, being able to play all those anime duels and then play them as the opponent killed so many empty hours during lockdown and I love it for that.
Number 39 being Utopia instead of Hope is still weird to me this day because of the references and context of the story. Tho I'm curious what the localized version of Utopic would be. King of Wishes seems too long
Is there any good videos going over the YuGiOh remote discord server? That sounds like a car crash I would like to watch
i am literally searching the comments if anyone posted the link to his video as i can't find it...
i sure wish bam was still playable on kongregate! or anywhere! i dont think anyone's even managed any sort of private server or anything either... game was fun but it really is just part of history now
Xavier Woods is the biggest athletic completely ripped nerd there is. He's such a big nerd they made a video game show where he was the host, and his soul purpose was to clown everybody in any game.
We can dunk on Link Evo all we want, but it was the last time Konami acknowledged Battle Pack, and I still use it for that.
15:51 it feels like this is PRECISELY why they don't want to bring rush to the USA at this point, for as crazy as that sounds? because duel links is basically an app that doesn't print them as much money anymore, but they don't have to spend anything in distribution and printing that they already weren't doing for duel links itself, yet they don't want to stop having duel links be an extremely more predatory version of the paper card game that can't develop a secondary market where they can't make money from directly.
...this is the type of thought process one has to imagine to explain why ONLY duel links has rush duels.
MBT I’m very happy for you and the progress on your channel. I remember when your patron list was like 10 people and you actually read them off at the end of every video 😂 now it wouldn’t be possible. I always enjoy the videos man.
I am a little surprised that nobody mentioned how every single spinoff and or game series yugioh had in the 2000s crashed and imploded immediately or a few years after release ( dungeon dice monsters, capsule monsters, wheelie breakers, the pc games, and even the popular game series like world champion ship series and tag force eventually started getting lower sales that got them cancelled by 2010, not to mention 4kids themselves went bankrupt ), it just shows 1) how young the new playerbase is and 2) how silly the game is dying! allegations are, like my boy you have seen nothing
1. 4kids going bankrupt had nothing to do with yugioh, there's a ton of videos explaining it, if anything Yugioh saved their VAs because Konami bought them out to keep guys like Dan Green and Eric Stuart on their payroll.
2. The Videogames didn't "crash and implode immediately." Konami just didn't give a shit. DDM and Capsule Monster Colisseum were DOA anyway and Tag Force/WC were very popular, Tag Force lasted till 2014 in Japan while WC lasted till 2011. Plus with the "Early Days Collection" they're clearly trying to gauge interest in new single player games.
@ 1.’Konami would have cared about them if they made any substantial profit ( therefore they flopped) and 2. If the handheld games were so popular why did they stop making them? There is only one answer in the industry: the last releases didn’t sell enough, you can tell that by the fact the the early games have their sales numbers whereas the last games in the series don’t even have reported sales numbers, even the early days collection it started its marketing with the best selling games from the handheld era, dark duel stories 700k in japan alone, solid numbers, after that era not so much
One of the things about NA as a TCG market compared to Japan is that a TCG releases, is everywhere, and then completely dies in various regions but but sticks around in a few dedicated markets for one reason or another. I haven’t seen Keyforge in years but it still cracks the top 10. I’ve also never seen a game of Elestrals in person. But bet your bottom dollar I still see Dragonball Super Card Game still be played. My guess is that Konami knows that would be the fate of Rush, especially when almost no one under 20 even plays YGO here anymore. It can be rough and it’s a harder sell the longer it doesn’t release.
Absolutely right about DN. I have never felt as in tune with my fellow player as I did then. Checking the Pojo forums on the daily.
11:20 ok but actually. the japanese text shows you how to pronounce it. the name is 竜華 and it’s pronounced りゅうげ. just like how エレメンタルヒーロー tells you how to pronounceＥ・ＨＥＲＯ. instead of going with ryuuge or even Longhua which the chinese way of pronouncing 竜華, they just made up random ass shit (Apodrakosis). you’d think they’d learn when they tried calling swordsoul Xiangjian bc they were translating the chinese instead of the japanese that’s entire purpose is to show japanese people how to pronounce foreign characters
The YGorg people are super cool, and what they do as far as translating new OCG releases quickly so we can know what the cards do is great, but I wish they would stop taking so many liberties with how they translate archetype names. And I especially wish people would stop getting so attached to what they pick and refuse to call it the actual name when we see what Konami has chosen.
I know this one isn't their fault but I'm still annoyed people call say "Exceed monster."
Considering the photo of Antoine Greizmann, how about when Konami stopped bringing Duel Disks overseas after the first Duel Academy Duel Disk? The states never got the Slifer Red Duel Disk, nor did we get either of the Yusei Duel Disks, which were vastly improved to the point that you could actually use them to duel casually and not worry about damaging your cards. But no, they can’t give us that. They can only give us Yusei’s Wrist Dealer.
Cant believe Nas made illmatic then killed dueling network
I'm now going to just say that Konami Ether'd DN because of this
❤ (this is what my heart would look like if i hadnt used it for the time wizard blood pact)
genuine question can you ask dire or whoever edits these why the music in the background is even there because after i even realized it was there i spent like half of the video trying to find out if the music in the back was the riding music from pokemon sun and moon (which im like 90% sure it is) but it was really hard because the music is so so so quiet like i actually want to know why its even there please tell me i need to know please
"everyone was priced out of the format" were the Criticisms of snake eye/fiendsmith and the mulches currently not bad enough???
the other half that doesnt get said out loud is that it was a bad format around the time vanguard came out and was pretty clearly targeted to be the yugioh killer. windup format gets pinned as a uniquely bad format when in reality it was just the only one where there was something interesting enough for people to jump ship to en masse at both the comp and casual levels.
@@3417gekkou What's funny is that there was a pretty terrible year of formats and especially product brewing when Bushiroad put out another super solid alternative TCG in 2023 in Shadowverse Evolve. But they're stuck in pre-TH-camr era advertising mode which meant the game came out and only drew in people who were already hyped for it, One Piece and Lorcana had a slapfight for market share, and now the second-string TCGs are just kind of vibing being healthy instead of imminently threatening Yugioh's market share and putting the spurs on like Vanguard did.
@@geek593 there are a signifigant amount of factors that seperate shadowverse in the 2020s to vanguard in 2010s but the biggest one is probably bushiroad's reputation (as well as cygames) went way way down. in the 2010s you would see bushi being propped up as like, kinda like a jp card game counterculture in regards to how much new ground vanguard was trying to break, whereas nowadays talk to any vanguard player and they will tell you that they would probably rather deal with konami.
By FAR the biggest blunder by Konami is the way they have genuinely killed this game with LGSs. I go to several different LGSs, and NONE of them even consider selling Yugioh anymore. They actively will not accept trade-in for store credit for cards, they dont stock packs, etc. They want nothing to do with the game anymore cause its always a financial loss for them. In a few years, I can only see this problem coming more and more to the forefront.
17:44 kaiba staring at me like he on drugs and i owe him money
I gotta say, we got Rush in duel links and almost the entire player base at the time tried it on launch. A couple months in though we all dropped it because the gameplay was ass (hope you draw better than the opponent or die) and the game currency was shared with Speed, which meant you had to either choose one to keep playing or double your yugioh budget. And nowadays it's even harder to get back into rush because after everyone dropped it to go back to speed the queue times are almost a minute compared to Speed's 3 seconds, I've even seen a guy screenshot his KoG rank up winstreak of just being paired up against the same guy 5 times in a row.
Tldr: the rush release in duel links had a lot of hope but Konami dropped the ball so hard that everyone dropped it to go back to Speed
The first "shadow duelist" was so bad I didn't even know there was a second one, let alone that actual Pro Wrestler and all around goat Xavier woods was part of it. Like I am a huge wrestling fan, and play yugioh a lot yet it was so ignorable that I didn't realize that it happened until this video. When it was first announced it sounded like it was going to be an event IN Master Duel where you'd duel the Shadow Duelist. I'm not even sure what the Shadow Duelist is, like is it just a social media video Konami puts out after enough people guess it, is it a livestream event, is it somehow also buried in Duel Links next to Rush duel? I have no idea what is going on with that.
if there's any reason Konami doesn't bring Rush over, it's because they're worried about self-cannibalization, right? i think they identified that the Japanese market is diverse and competitive enough that it could bear two very different conceptions of Yugioh simultaneously. in contrast, you bring Rush stateside, where do you think it's going to pull players from? Not Magic or Pokemon, that's for sure. TCG is already very expensive, so it's a hard ask to get a community frustrated by pricing for years to double down. A lot of people would choose either Rush or TCG. I don't know that TCG can survive at the same scale if Rush pops off and eats half the player base. It's easy to say "people will play both" but you can't really be sure.
Plus, and this is kinda anecdotal/vibes-based at this point, but I think there's very few people who actively play multiple games in paper (unless it's something more indie like Elestrals on the side), and I think Yugioh fans are a lot more reluctant to fully migrate to another game for any number of reasons. Rush Duel is maybe too tempting as an offramp if you love the idea of Yugioh but you're maybe sick of actually playing it.
(plus Speed Duel fell off entirely which cannot inspire confidence about introducing an alternate format generally lol)
A few things:
1. While the threat of self-cannibalization is there, to say it would split the playerbase in 2 is exceptionally inaccurate. If we're being generous, maybe around a third of the playerbase loves Rush, while the rest outright don't like it or don't care, so it's maybe a case of a loud minority. Also, since players who don't care about Rush rarely talk about it, you aren't immediately aware that there are a lot more players who wouldn't buy Rush packs outside of the ones who vehemently hate Rush for whatever reason.
2. The success of Rush is difficult to accurately gauge considering it carries the YGO brand name. Like, it's clear they aren't confident in it succeeding overseas the same way as in the OCG regions. You also gotta understand that CCGs tend to last at least a few years in JP, so, Rush may end up going the way of Future Card Buddyfight eventually, just not any time soon, since YGO is a much stronger brand than Vanguard.
As a Duel Links player i can confidently say the amount of Rush players vs Speed players is like a 1-4 ratio if even. It's got its fans but i don't think it would take a significant playerbase away from the TCG especially if they do it like duel links where they release good packs and constructed decks that don't cost an arm and both legs.
@@lilsunny7399 Are you 100% sure you're playing the same DL as everyone else? Like, yes, the Rush boxes and SDs were all good for the most part, but the monetization is insanely predatory. Rush gets more mini boxes, meaning you gotta go through the mini 3 times for the SRs alone. Couple that with the fractured gem economy, and it does in fact cost an arm and a leg to play both Speed and Rush competitively to an extent. But that's not the fault of Rush, that's Konami's fault for exploiting the playerbase.
@@blexanderAs a free to play player, I have all the cards I need, but sadly I dislike Cyberdragons and Ancient Gear Golem from GX, so despite having them I refuse to play them and constantly lose.
@@blexander Anectdotal evidence here
Rush product released here in Singapore, and it absolutely flopped
Anyone else remembers *Yu-gi-oh Online* from GX era? It was a somewhat YGO MMO where you could battle in Domino City or Duel Academy with NPC or other players and had to buy code cards to get cards as well as ability to duel. I remember I came across someone selling codes who managed to crack the system and for a limited time (a month or two) was just generating the codes acceptable by the game and was selling them for a quarter of the official price.
Cross Duel came out as pure pay-to-win and was so incredibly unfun to play since everyone just ganged up on one person.
I was asleep for the whole remote duel discord server mess but I did get into a server that Shpee runs where we post an emote of Dzeef's distorted face every day for the past 4 years.
Also, for anyone that hasn't played Rush Duels, play the Switch game. It is much lower power and less consistent than what we have currently in Edopro, but it is fun and teaches you really quickly.
DON'T PLAY Duel Links. It doesn't have the same ruleset. It is literally just Rush Duels, but with the same rule/mechanic changes Duel Links made for standard Yugioh, like half of the life/deck sizes and a skill system for some reason. I was excited for Rush on Duel Links until i played it and realized it wasnt actually Rush
It’s still rush
14:50 Oh Yu-Gi-Oh! BAM, my beloved, it was my first way of actually playing the game since I've only watched my friends playing with playground rules, it was quite fun!
At least Legacy of the Duelist has Air Neos
Isn't that his last apperance ever?
I had no clue Griezmann was ever tied to Yugioh. This is so unbelievably strange
I found funny that the Zayn mask was sold for way more than all the prizes of the YCS's from the last 5 years combined.
I think my favorite Konami 2024 failure was when they got fucking dunked on for the platinum DM card, then got dunked on for the silver god cards, then shut up about it after too much time getting dunked on. It was so damn funny
16:03 link evolution is probably the reason i ever got into "modern yugioh" i still played yugioh against bots but i used stuff like red-eyes. When link evolution came out i first made lunalight, then salamangreat and now im an advid "big combo" enjoyer
For the sake of what integrity you have left I'm proud of you for cutting down on Twitter threads but also unfortunately they're the only content I enjoy anymore so RIP.
Damn. Honestly love listening to you rant about the history of this game.
Oh man Yu-Gi-Oh BAM!
That, alongside Baseball Heroes (R.I.P.) are the reasons why I have Facebook account in the first place.
I remember how weird it is to see Solemn Judgment as a Spellcaster Monster.
I suggest taking the unique card effect customizability of CrossDuel and make it a normal tabletop game. Make a pack of 7 normal cards (either by default, or stripping the effects away), and 1 a guaranteed rare effect monster (ex. Jinzo) and start with DM and DM-like cards from later eras (like weak effect monsters in newer eras that nobody uses with meh effects). Make it like a RPG, but Yugioh. Call it Yugioh Rogue, or Yugioh Break. (Rogue from the normal play/breaking the known effect rules of the normal game.) I'd love to play that. It would also make some funny content as well.
KAIBA: "Sorry Yugi, but my Blue-Eyes White Dragon can't be destroyed by effects, deals piercing battle damage, and can attack twice per turn!"
YUGI: "Activate Bottomless Trap Hole?"
KAIBA: "IMPOSSIBLE!!!"
Yugi after activating a card that "destroy" on a card that "can't be destroyed by effect"
Why dragon no die?
I asked in a dedicated Yu-Gi-Oh channel in a Discord server I’m in if they had tried Cross Duel. Nobody posted in that channel for a year until one of my friends noticed and laughed in my face.
Hot take: Battle Packs were cool in theory but lacking in execution. There were ample brick and bad cards, dated even by standards of Zexal era. There were a couple neat cards here or there, but extra deck monsters were neigh impossible to summon in the format because of the range of monsters. Had they done something like the Deck Build Packs, fairly generic archetypes with a few themes that can sonewhat knterchange with each other. It'd be far closer to achieving the goal of Battle Packs being draftable set that can be later played.
Obviously the decks were worse than constructed Zexal era. That's what a draft IS. Magic players had no expectation of being able to play Splinter Twin Combo in Tarkir Limited.
@geek593 I expect some level of cohesion in the packs. Dark Dust Spirit and Buster Blader aren't things to be seeing in a set that lacks any meaningful way of getting to them outside of praying that your two monsters can survive just long enough to tribute to summon them. Especially in a set that contains the likes of Pot of Greed, Raigeki, and Cyber Jar (which is also a questionable card for a limited set). Like I said, I'd expect some more tempered, especially on a first flight. No banned cards, no absolute garbage, more lower to the ground with some bigger bodies that can be somewhat reasonably be summoned and generic good spells/traps that offer some decent utility, but don't warp the pace of the game.
You were playing battle pack wrong. Battle pack rules dictated that ALL monsters were of ALL monster types simultaneously to make meeting conditions much easier.
@@jeanpitre5789 that just makes Battle Packs even worse. There were already few cards that cared about typing Machina Fortress being one of them so the rule almost becomes completely moot. Had the packs been focused on a few types with some intermediary cards that could tie decks together then it'd be far more engaging to draft with. Imagine a Battle Pack that focused on Tri-Brigade's trio of types and packs contained archetypes that fit under those tri-type. Other card games don't suffer the same drafting issues because they use resources which means that cards can eventually be played to some capacity with relative ease. Battle Pack 1 having something like Dark Dust Spirit is inexcusable.
@otterfire4712 I disagree. They were good they just made the card pool overly large so it felt like you couldn't make a solid deck out of pulls. That's likely the issue you were having.
7:09 as someone who enjoys and has enjoyed yugioh for a while but is a casual, it did get mad confusing when “something” happens like new cards or rule changes 😭 I didn’t realize we had like 3+ formats running at the same time for the longest
(I too am broke and only play master duel)
OMFG I ACTUALLY PLAYED YU-GI-OH BAM I THINK
Anyone else remember Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Generation?
I remember it my first Yu-Gi-Oh game until master duel came
I'll add one that I think was pretty bad since it impacted a person's livelihood: The firing of Oliver Gehrmann. Dude was the face of European YCSs, and translated cards into German, and was involved in YUGIOh since the Upper Deck era. Farfa asked him if he wanted to do an interview and Oliver was down as long as he got permission from Konami. So he asked the people at Konami EU that he worked with since he was a freelancer and they said "that's fine as long as you make clear you're not an employee and don't speak for the company." Oliver did the interview and kept to the rules but then someone high up at Konami JP saw the interview and without asking for context or anything else just told Konami EU to fire the poor guy.
Duel Arena from Miniclip was an official Konami browser game and there was so much wrong with it as microtransactions pretty much killed the game from ever reaching to it's 1st anniversary.
My biggest issue with modern Yugioh is that we get no cool video games, nowadays we can’t just expect a game like Duelist of the roses or Forbidden memories to spice up the format, and therein ant problems the game has are so much easier to pick out and make fun of, because there’s no good alternative
Dire needs a raise
5:20 I don't think the OSS ban was just to push product, even though that's a large part of the effect. The decks been the top deck for almost a year. The alternative would be to hit flamberge, but leaving OSS still generates a ton of card advantage. Banning it but leaving flamberge alone means that the "plan" for snake eyes still works as an archetype, it's just inconsistent.
Literally posted this in the thread just now, but something that was flopped hard is the combination of Duel Devastator, Legendary Duelist and Hidden Arsenal. Devastator seems like a home run series to continuously reprint yearly staples and have them in 100% pull rate storage boxes with cool trinkets to keep you interested, right? Nope. Done once 6 years ago now and never again. Legendary Duelist could be a fantastic vessel as a set to target themed Time Wizard formats, right? Nope! Shove 2 meta staples in the set and rarity downshift a bunch of rogueish decks based around rough attributes that a niche side character used that will never see the light of day even at locals (Shoutout to Richmond Salamgreat Man though, my GOAT). Hidden Arsenal, shake some more Duel Terminal Rarity treatment into more cards? Reprint some Duel Terminal cards so they see the light of day again? Hell no! Print one wave of reprinted Naturia and then never do it again. Legendary Duelist is a fumbled bag twice over because Konami even tried to rebrand it as not a miniset but just full out microboxes instead of Deck Build Pack style.