Trails of Cold Steel IV [English] Secret Ending Scene (English Dub)

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    The Erebonian Empire is on the brink of all out war! Taking place shortly after the ending of Trails of Cold Steel III, the heroes of Class VII find themselves with the full force of the Empire on the path to domination. Further, the hero of the Erebonian Civil War and Class VII's instructor, Rean Schwarzer, has gone missing.
    Now, the students of Class VII, old and new, must unite with heroes from all over the continent to create the only chance the world has to be spared from total destruction.
    The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel IV
    Genre: RPG
    Platform: PS4 (recorded on PS4 Pro)
    Developer: Nihon Falcom
    Publisher: NIS America
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  • @backgroundcharacterj5071
    @backgroundcharacterj5071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Blueblanc: *doesn't put in his two weeks*
    Campanella: im sure he'll be back

  • @thejonbrownshow8470
    @thejonbrownshow8470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I guess Osborne's game of 4d chess looks cute to the Grandmaster

    • @Kernviter
      @Kernviter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That's hardly surprising because the grandmaster is probably aidios herself

    • @LoboEye
      @LoboEye ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@Kernviter
      Nayuta, Boundless Trails and Kuro 2 pretty much confirm it.

    • @Spellweaver5
      @Spellweaver5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@LoboEye what does Nayuta have to do with this?

  • @cincinnatus9761
    @cincinnatus9761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Two months after beating the game and I just now learn of this scene. Thanks Falcom...

    • @craig581
      @craig581 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why you should always play these games with a guide, just so you don't miss anything important. I don't know I would have missed extra scenes and dialogue without it.

    • @lanteanboy
      @lanteanboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@craig581 even with a guide that's easily missable. Especially since I'm pretty sure many of these secret endings might have required a New game +

  • @fen6300
    @fen6300 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    So the Grandmaster called Sharon, Sharon, instead of Krueger. Anybody noticed that ?

  • @thecrimsonmeteor
    @thecrimsonmeteor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I only found this because I loaded the wrong save. How fitting the cutscenes showing the grandmaster is extremely convoluted

  • @craxnor
    @craxnor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Personally I think the grandmaster ribs Aidios, or more realistically what’s left of her, and everything is her making sure the planet still stands

  • @Owlstain
    @Owlstain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The way to see this ending is really stupid. But not as bad as having to beat cold steel 2 NG+ just to see an EXTREMELY IMPORTANT CUT SCENE about the black records

  • @CtheIronblooded
    @CtheIronblooded 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I very strongly believe that Marcel Nielsen is the First Anguis and that he's also from the Beyond or at the very least knows about it. I got this dialogue when I talked to him at Barney's Tavern in Leeves in the final act
    "It seems like each camp is finally in operation. There's Mille Mirage which aims to counter the apocalyptic Operation Jormungandr, and the ever hopeful Operation Shining-Steel. And it looks like everyone involved has their own circumstances to deal with. I'll be an observer for it all--how this war ends, and what fate lies in store for the people of this world."
    What really stood out to me was "what fate lies in store for the people of this world" why would another normal human phrase it like "this world", as if there are other worlds that he knows about?
    Also their voice actors sound very similar.
    Just something to think about for sure.

    • @carlregnitz6928
      @carlregnitz6928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah something definitely seems suspicious about him, Nielsen being blind could also mean he has more knowledge then other people do.

    • @michaelmirpuri3597
      @michaelmirpuri3597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed this too when i talked to him in Leeves. Him referring to "this world" really leaves an impression. Definetly suspicous.

    • @wanderer5132
      @wanderer5132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah who are friends and foes and the grandmaster being a woman narrows down her identity

    • @Saint-Ocean
      @Saint-Ocean ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I say your theroy holds water also for the voices in Cold Steel 4 both Marcel and the First Anguis are voice by Ian Sinclair

    • @bruhvenant
      @bruhvenant ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's pretty much 99% confirmed at this point that Nielsen is the First Anguis. Same voice actors in both Japanese and English....yeah that's not just some coincidence lol.

  • @VideoGaming4Dummies
    @VideoGaming4Dummies ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ouroboros can never be defeated.... ever.

  • @HIIIMM2
    @HIIIMM2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    3 years until the world returns to primordial nothingness? The calvard arc will cover that cause "Trails in Darkness" and all that and I bet I'll involve the sept terrion of time

    • @TheRealMaruki
      @TheRealMaruki 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know you've probably already played them (maybe), but
      *Possible spoilers if you haven't below*
      Somebody has a thing to turn back time (and it's apparently some core gameplay mechanic).

    • @HIIIMM2
      @HIIIMM2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheRealMaruki Yep, I already played Kuro 1&2. Now we wait for the last one

  • @ahmedmurad5552
    @ahmedmurad5552 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    It's just dumb to hide such an important scene

    • @TheInfinityMaster1
      @TheInfinityMaster1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true.

    • @Latronibus
      @Latronibus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair, scenes about as important as this one are behind doors in Trails in the Sky the 3rd. But still, why does this not just play when you get to the end of the credits the first time?

  • @Azal827
    @Azal827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    haha, i like these bunch of comments full of theory, it fills quite curiosity and fun to read

  • @thejonbrownshow8470
    @thejonbrownshow8470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *looks at comment section* welp... I'm never unlocking this anytime soon, but I'm glad I found out about this when giving a guide a check on how to distribute my 3 teams for ishmelga xD

  • @a1n1onym
    @a1n1onym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Holy shit! Why did I miss this scene? I've played the secret ending and whatched the ending sequence...!

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      You can get it by loading your save file (not clear file) after getting the true ending. If you didn't save after Ishmelga Loge you'll have to fight it again. Not sure why Falcom made it this way.

    • @jagster7985
      @jagster7985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Timodus I just finished and got the true ending a few days ago. So, to watch this, I have to reload the save date that was optioned AFTER beating Ishmelga, but NOT the clear data? That's incredibly convoluted, like who would think to even do so? O.o

    • @lancelindlelee7256
      @lancelindlelee7256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jagster7985 I did when I missed a scan on the Ishmelga fight. Glad I did it.

    • @boltinabottle6307
      @boltinabottle6307 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jagster7985 Eh, it's better than having to replay the entire game as well as collecting a bunch of missable items (CS2 scene with Thomas).

  • @samfisher5056
    @samfisher5056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So in the end this scene leaves me with more doubts and questions than answers...well that's why I love Falcom.. can't wait for the crossbell duology and the final Arc.A shame that trails in the sky Fc is no longer purchasable in italy

    • @LoboEye
      @LoboEye ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Calvard and the Kuro Trilogy will not be the final arc. Their will be atleast one or two more arcs after.

    • @awagel
      @awagel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@LoboEye yeah, in fact, Trails in the Dark is the midway point in the Trails saga, confirmed by Falcom. Even then, that's only happening in Western Zemuria. Eastern part of the continent is still a mystery and don't get me started on the surrounding islands near the continent as well. One of those islands could be a start of a brand new game lol.

  • @TheKingofAndrosica
    @TheKingofAndrosica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    And here comes the Trails of the Beginning era

    • @chorustrilogy
      @chorustrilogy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      TH-cam dubs it as Trails of Creation, funnily enough. Which would make sense, given what I saw during my playthrough

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chorustrilogy it means a lot of things

    • @LoboEye
      @LoboEye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An English trademark for Trails of Orgions is floating around by NISA.

  • @ExiaAvalancheMkII
    @ExiaAvalancheMkII ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah Ouroboros and the GM I find it funny that Genshin Impact's Fatui and Tsaritsa looked like cheap knock-offs of this group

    • @manoharalisa5829
      @manoharalisa5829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fatui must be inspired from Ouroboros.. Imagine if La Signora vs Golden Butterfly

  • @Nemisish
    @Nemisish 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At this rate, i can only assume Ouroboros's 4d chess moves are carefully planned by an even greater organisations 4d chess moves that are planned by an even greater organisations 4d chess moves are carefully planned by an even greater organisations 4d chess moves are carefully planned by an even greater organisations 4d chess moves are carefully planned by an even greater organisations 4d chess moves are carefully planned by an even greater organisations 4d chess moves are carefully planned by an even greater organisations 4d chess moves are carefully planned by an even greater organisations 4d chess moves are carefully planned by an even greater organisations 4d chess moves are carefully planned by an even greater organisations 4d chess moves........
    😵‍💫 I am so confused
    Only in the very last 5 minutes of the very last trails game will something happen that was not carefully planned by the super duper mastermind 32 games earlier.
    But seriously, this is pretty cool 👍

  • @RetroNerdyGamer
    @RetroNerdyGamer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, Trails into Reverie spoilers here dont read unless you've beaten it.
    -
    -
    You were warned.
    That line with the Grand master saying the worlds lifespan was extended 3 years... then the "other Rean" says to Lloyd "There's something you need to know, 3 years from now..." Lloyd didn't want to hear it but...
    Huh. Interesting to see they lined these up.

  • @statesminds
    @statesminds ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate how cold steel hides stuff like this and the thomas and rosine scene in cs2

  • @thejonbrownshow8470
    @thejonbrownshow8470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    *Grandmaster raises up silhouetted copies of the rest of the future installments* would you like to buy a expensive buyer's pass to cover all future keisiki instalments
    (Low key, wished that was a thing lol tho for us western fans, that's basically like a life supply of slice of life anime 😅)

    • @pirisel1137
      @pirisel1137 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would buy it no matter the price lol

  • @peterparker1683
    @peterparker1683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like we are about to find out about this Primordial Nothingness in Kuro No Kiseki 2

    • @davidbird7328
      @davidbird7328 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hell yeah I hope Campanella and mcburn show up. Kuro was a good game

    • @LoboEye
      @LoboEye ปีที่แล้ว

      And the reveal left more questions than answers, Kuro 3 needs to answer.

  • @lyner7715
    @lyner7715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Did Falcom really want players to miss this scene? Why did they keep doing this? It's pretty dumb.

    • @TheInfinityMaster1
      @TheInfinityMaster1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      100% Agree. I just finished the game recently WITH the true ending, but this ending never showed-up. In fact, it was all thanks to my curiously about the "Grandmaster's" true identity that led me to this video where I was shocked to find out that they hid such important cutscene even after getting the true ending. Really stupid decision on their part.

    • @macmac277
      @macmac277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You literally just need to reload the last save of the final boss to get it after beating it once. It's not forcing you to replay the whole game again to see it lol

    • @andrewfennewald9465
      @andrewfennewald9465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@macmac277 sure but how are you supposed to know to do that.

    • @macmac277
      @macmac277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewfennewald9465 it forces you to make a save somewhere towards the end. So, most people would assume it's a special save and load it. especially knowing that you get sad ending like that so you'd hope for a happy one if you try

    • @andrewfennewald9465
      @andrewfennewald9465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@macmac277 but you have to load a file after you already beat the game through the true ending right. That is not something I normally do.

  • @CC-xy8nn
    @CC-xy8nn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Xenosaga 3 and the Eternal Recurrence. If this is anytbing like that strap in guys its gonna get crazy

  • @hanaesw
    @hanaesw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I loaded wrong save and got this by accident lol, why did they hide something like this

    • @TheInfinityMaster1
      @TheInfinityMaster1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was going to criticize them in my game review for not "addressing" the Ouroboros stuff at the end, only to find out that they hid this ending.
      What were they thinking man? This is such an important scene to set the stage for what's to come next......

    • @markjoseph6243
      @markjoseph6243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly lol! I was so lost why did I not saw this.

    • @asgardharmony
      @asgardharmony 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheInfinityMaster1 you'r not alone)

    • @NazariyArkride
      @NazariyArkride 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Secret ending".

    • @albundy1485
      @albundy1485 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More like "stupid ending".

  • @InstructorRean
    @InstructorRean 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does anyone know the song that plays for the grandmaster when it plays at 2:26? I’m having a hard time finding it, I’d appreciate it if someone could tell me.

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's "In the Manner of God" from Trails in the Sky the 3rd.

    • @InstructorRean
      @InstructorRean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Timodus thanks I really had trouble looking for it!

    • @InstructorRean
      @InstructorRean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you sure it’s “in the manner of god” i can’t seem to find it anywhere not on google or TH-cam? Do you have a link you can send maybe?

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@InstructorRean Track #37 open.spotify.com/album/1vMhK0UKL1EQjZ2Lq1Mh7U

    • @InstructorRean
      @InstructorRean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Timodus I appreciate the help! still have a hard time finding it another website had the song name but it was totally different song to it, so I was starting to feel a little suspicious if that was actually the name or not, or if maybe it went by a different name which is why I had a hard time finding it on TH-cam and google. iTunes managed to help though so thanks. I don’t have Spotify and I didn’t feel like making an account for all the trouble. So I appreciate it again!

  • @jeffabubo
    @jeffabubo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yay, the legend of heroes:trails cold steel 5, coming next game of the end game.

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It won't be called Cold Steel V though.

    • @jeffabubo
      @jeffabubo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Timodus yay we will wait on release. I gotta say yup because need to defeat the boss order, when seeing to be continued or waiting for updated on pictures.

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supra3989 Probably something about 'beginning' because that's what hajimari means.

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supra3989 It hasn't been announced yet. Rean, Lloyd and C are the main characters.

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@supra3989 no

  • @animegurl131
    @animegurl131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    just beat the game, anyone else think the grandmaster is Emma's mother? Which is why Vita will do anything to help her?

    • @irigarth
      @irigarth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      i think the grandmaster is aidios

    • @xValsion
      @xValsion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      why would Vita has to do anything with Emma's Mother. and not just Vita, others Anguis are loyal and will do anything as per Grandmaster command.

  • @gamewizard2008
    @gamewizard2008 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the name of Grandmaster's theme music?

  • @allenofblacksteel9169
    @allenofblacksteel9169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the true ending in the cold steel 4 but I don't remember that I've seen the secret scene here. why?
    I googled it. I got the answer. just view true ending twice will trigger the bonus scene.

  • @silenvis6310
    @silenvis6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So before I get to the end what are they requirements for this ending I have not watched the video so I don’t spoil myself but I figured here was a good place to ask

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Load your save file after the ending. Saying more would be a spoiler.

    • @silenvis6310
      @silenvis6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Timodus thanks just had to say so nobody spoiled me in their answer

  • @AsterCalibur
    @AsterCalibur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Interesting I feel like I heard the Grandmasters English voice before.

    • @florac1995
      @florac1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's probably same VA as Ari

    • @WestProZ17
      @WestProZ17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@florac1995 as who?

    • @CtheIronblooded
      @CtheIronblooded 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@WestProZ17 Arianrhod. I agree it sounds like Cherami Leigh, but not like it matters since Kondo specified they changed the Grandmaster's VA every time she appears just so it's impossible to identify her.

    • @WestProZ17
      @WestProZ17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CtheIronblooded That theory about her being Adios may actually be true.

    • @CtheIronblooded
      @CtheIronblooded 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WestProZ17 I personally think it's Creha from Nayuta. Creha was a godlike being that could create worlds and created Nayuta's world. Creha is Aidios and Aidios is the Grandmaster. Why the GM is against the church and the Gralsritter is the piece of the puzzle I haven't figured out yet though.

  • @allenofblacksteel9169
    @allenofblacksteel9169 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    currently there are two games of falcom that I really want to see a remake.
    you might consider a modern graphic 3d remake of Liberl arc Sky 1 and 2 only. I really wanted to see liberl view in 3d in the modern graphic this day just like cold steel 3 or above. I'm so far I was able to see crossbell but we need liberl. and the other game is Ys I and II remake. what I really want is to see Reah and Feena in 3d modern graphic just like ys 8 or above. sadly knowing falcom and other stuff. I don't think they'll do it or I don't think they can be afford to have a remake.

    • @celestialsylveon6453
      @celestialsylveon6453 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean Ys 1 is a short game I heard, so making a remake of it would not take many resources

    • @Koolyaroo
      @Koolyaroo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      don't worry lol
      ys I and II will definitely get remakes in the future falcom loves those games
      trails in the sky tho?? im not sure about that cuz they are such big games compared to ys that it would be hard to remake. They would rather just port them and I'm fine with that honestly

    • @allenofblacksteel9169
      @allenofblacksteel9169 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Koolyaroo knowing falcom. remake is 1% chance in the future.
      - as for trails sky games. I gotta agree with you because it's a big and long games.
      - change topic: I don't want to play sky trails on pc because it's psp port. can't get use to its old system with no voice. I do have a ps vita include english mod and it's just too small screen to be played on long gameplay. if only they bring vita port to pc. pc does have vita version mod apply over but it's not working.

    • @Koolyaroo
      @Koolyaroo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@allenofblacksteel9169 the sky evo mod for pc is pretty easy to apply, just dragging and dropping the files I think (I never did it because I like playing with no voices XD)
      if Sky Ports happen, they'll be like the recent zero and azure ones so they will contain japanese voice acting at the very least...

  • @harrizzaini7324
    @harrizzaini7324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really we hope we can play from the perspective of ouroboros, maybe we can play as cedric?

    • @Nel_Annette
      @Nel_Annette 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My theory is that either the main guy or the redhead in the next game are going to turn out to be Ouroboros members at the end, and the girl (Agnes?) is going to be the actual main protagonist of the Calvard arc.

    • @richardisted3703
      @richardisted3703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nel_Annette I hope you are right because that would be cool.

    • @TheAckeePlant
      @TheAckeePlant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      An Ouroboros arc would be so cool. We know so little about them so to be able to work with them would be nice. Especially since their plans aren’t always necessarily evil.

  • @unknownsmitty8260
    @unknownsmitty8260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHO! Is the Grandmaster is it someone from the Preview Trails Game

    • @IinkcIick
      @IinkcIick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      we first heard of the Grandmaster in « Trails in the Sky »

  • @ohmygoditszawarudo1204
    @ohmygoditszawarudo1204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone figures out her VA post here please

    • @CtheIronblooded
      @CtheIronblooded 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don't bother, Kondo said in an interview that they switch the voice of the Grandmaster every time so they can't be identified haha

    • @DaylanDeAngelo
      @DaylanDeAngelo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think this iteration of her is Allegra Clark

    • @zbigbozbboy5245
      @zbigbozbboy5245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CtheIronblooded what a bad yet efective strategy

  • @buttertoast1146
    @buttertoast1146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you get this??

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can get it by loading your save file (not clear file) after getting the true ending.

    • @buttertoast1146
      @buttertoast1146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Timodus I don't have to fight Osborne again?

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's right. Save after Ishmelga Loge and load that save after the true ending.

    • @gustinex
      @gustinex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      basically load your save from the "epilogue". where rean narrates the entire ending, so watch through it all again and after the credits roll, this scene will show up

  • @svenseike4496
    @svenseike4496 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe we see them in CS 5... or 6... or 7 😜😜

  • @boss.mimoto6570
    @boss.mimoto6570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Anyone have a theory other than that the grandmaster is Aidios herself?

    • @victorparedes2319
      @victorparedes2319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There are some.
      The first demiourgos
      Someone from the church ( for the "church music" yah appears when she showed up) maybe Ein, or someone related to her.
      And my favourite one ( because of the crazy world connection that it implies) is the theory that said the GM is Creha ordin from Nayuta no Kiseki ( another of falcom's game ) this girl Creha could be a younger version of the GM, also in that game exist a certain character with the name "Hershel" just like towa, and some similarities in their arts, it could be just a reference, but I found it very interesting if they connect both games, expanding the lore to a "multiversal" level

    • @boss.mimoto6570
      @boss.mimoto6570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow. That's blown my mind.

    • @lordnihilus4845
      @lordnihilus4845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought she was aidios cause of the quote I’m just a shadow but she also could be the hexen clan leader before crimson croselia

    • @victorparedes2319
      @victorparedes2319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lordnihilus4845 just too add something to the Creha theory, maybe when you're from another world like McBurn, your soul need to "enter" to a body of that world, because McBurn implies that he e
      Is a demon inside a normal human body.
      Maybe The grandmaster is from a another world too, but she has to enter a human body yet, that's why she is a shadow and can only appear in the celestial globe

    • @Bighaters916
      @Bighaters916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a feeling its reans mother....

  • @theshekellord
    @theshekellord 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does this lead to Hajimari no Kiseki or is this setting up another Legend of Heroes arc?

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's setting up the next arc with the Eternal Recurrence Plan.

    • @jeffabubo
      @jeffabubo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well yeah, it was Japanese game. So we gotta wait it released on the trail cold steel V/5. I really like the song and battle song.

    • @xValsion
      @xValsion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffabubo there is no cs5

    • @SoraDestiny471
      @SoraDestiny471 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffabubo after cs4, it is hajimari no kiseki then calvard arc

    • @jeffabubo
      @jeffabubo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SoraDestiny471 uh.. The game never release next on trails cold steel 5 or other game yet.

  • @victorparedes2319
    @victorparedes2319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why was the crossbell part of the phantasmal blaze plan necessary?? What did they accomplished with it?

    • @TNewGabriel
      @TNewGabriel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mostly to fulfill the prophecy writen in the black record " Twiloght Begins".

    • @TNewGabriel
      @TNewGabriel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Twilight

    • @victorparedes2319
      @victorparedes2319 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TNewGabriel but the great twilight begun when they slayed the earth holy beast. ?
      The only thing I can imagine is that, they used the stargazer's tower's Bell to awaken the holy beast ... Maybe that ?
      So the purpose for the crossbell part of the plan, was to obtain the power of that bell???

    • @Sonic2978
      @Sonic2978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because it was written in the prophecy for the Black Records that leads up to the start of the Great Twilight.
      _____________________________________________________
      "Twilight Begins - Year 1206
      Between flame and earth...
      The wavering darkness begins to spin the tale of the end.
      First, the conflict of the great gods of the second pillar.
      Second, the fusion of earth and flame, and the completion of the seven vessels.
      Third, the beginning of the thousand-year city and the acceptance of the Gral.
      Fourth, the disappearance of the Holy Beast and the catastrophe of the whispering dragons.
      Fifth, the recapture of the capital and the vermillion curse.
      Sixth, the lions' war and the sacrifice of the holy maiden.
      Seventh, the appearance of the giant pillar in the north and the unwanted child.
      Eighth, the sacrifice of the village and the hundred days campaign.
      Ninth, the great blue tree to the east and the appearance of the cursed castle.
      Thus, the thousand year old wish was fulfilled.
      When the sacrifice is made and the ancient blood flows, the path to the Gral of Erebos shall open.
      When the tainted Holy Beast is pierced by the blade of world's end and its blood fills the Gral, the Great Twilight shall fall upon the land."

    • @victorparedes2319
      @victorparedes2319 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sonic2978 it sounds fair to be honest.
      But then I have another observation, if that was the reason ( haha it reminds me o the DARk series in netflix where the notebook ) for ouroboros to make their move on crossbell. .....
      How did they know that part of the black records need their participation???? I mean, with the short ( and ambiguous) those lines are, why they decided they need to "target" crossbell , and ( for example) they didn't do anything in the part where the records mention the salt pale ?
      So basically sometimes they are just confident that the things written in the black records will occur anyway, and with some other parts , they thought it's needed their appearance.
      (Btw sorry if my English isn't that good , im from south america)

  • @alexmena3485
    @alexmena3485 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    HAS ANYONE TRANSLATED THE THEBAN SCRIPT ALL OVER THEIR STUFF?!

  • @TeaseMusseVII
    @TeaseMusseVII 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    seems like any hopeless people here is no match for me. I am the one who get the true ending. I got true ending. is true. I defeat the holy beast of earth or something? but who the hell is grandmaster ? I can't say I know her face

  • @jitensha5231
    @jitensha5231 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me, this is the true ending of CS4.

  • @rpghero46
    @rpghero46 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    all this slow burn from a cop out anime ending.......ending like this became popular on the 2000

  • @statesminds
    @statesminds ปีที่แล้ว

    I really dont think Campanella’s english voice fits as well as the japanese. And i really like the dub. His just is eh

  • @MentalOutlvl6
    @MentalOutlvl6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you get secret ending

    • @Timodus
      @Timodus  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Get the true ending and load a save file you made before the final boss or after it. You can skip the true ending cutscenes to reach it.

  • @ashleylange6628
    @ashleylange6628 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eternal recurrence, they really do want to rip off every Xeno idea they can get their grubby paws on

  • @lordnihilus4845
    @lordnihilus4845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm every spectates she’s aidios same as me however she looks like kurts mom I think she’s the old hexen clan old elder

    • @manbearpigsereal
      @manbearpigsereal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      if you think she's the previous elder then you weren't paying attention to Roselia's story at all.

  • @stressbean1707
    @stressbean1707 ปีที่แล้ว

    ha grandmaster she just another person to join Rean's harem nothing special

  • @EekChocolate
    @EekChocolate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ouroboros is such a joke now.

    • @victorparedes2319
      @victorparedes2319 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Maybe in power level, but at least they remain as an interesting faction that pulls the strings in a lot of the mayor conflicts in the continent, and when they don't, at least they are there participating in some way or another

    • @griswo3272
      @griswo3272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      wow shit take is shit

    • @CtheIronblooded
      @CtheIronblooded 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Ouroboros has always been an organization based on observation. Even in Crossbell. Weissman was a special case that acted irregular in Sky, but they didn't even care when the false Sept-Terrion of Mirage lost her power because they were never there to claim the Sept-Terrion in the first place. Just to observe how the Sept-Terrions would act after being influenced by man. They were never meant to be the main villains they just got involved due to personal connections to past members ala Joshua, Renne or Loewe.
      I really don't get why people act like they're a joke now when the organization never changed how it behaves and they've always been a chaotic neutral, especially due to how much freedom they give their Enforcers and Anguis.

    • @EekChocolate
      @EekChocolate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CtheIronblooded If they were just "based on observation", they wouldn't have an army of jaegers under their belt. Or tons of archaisms. Or a giant airship that's more high tech than any other in Zemuria (despite being older than all Arseille-class ships). They also wouldn't start shit in Arteria, which they've apparently been doing during the events of CS3 and CS4.

    • @animesoul479
      @animesoul479 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I wouldn't say that they are a joke, but more so we've had 9 games and still don't know much about them. It doesn't help that a majority of their ranks who we've met have basically all checked out. The organization is interesting, but I think they need to be expanded upon a bit more than what we've been given.

  • @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
    @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And they leave another cliffhanger ending as falcom tradition, this is why they will never surpass square enix

    • @Zythrone
      @Zythrone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      This is a sequel hook, not a cliffhanger.

    • @Xpalzin
      @Xpalzin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      in my mind, in terms of story and character depth, I think they have surpased Square

    • @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
      @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Xpalzin nah they haven't, kh3 is much deeper

    • @Zythrone
      @Zythrone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Obvious troll is obvious.

    • @CtheIronblooded
      @CtheIronblooded 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You clearly don't know what the word "cliffhanger" means. Cliffhangers are like the ending of Sky FC, Cold Steel I or Cold Steel III. This is just a way to hook the player so they're excited for the next installment of the series and so they know things are far from over.