The fact that people don’t know this is from a dungeons and dragons show is so sad and funny 😭 this is the exact opposite kind of person Brennan is LMAO
@@moriane. that episode was cool for a grand total of like 5 minutes and then the creepiness and existential crises just kind of rush in. I do recall the ending being victorious though
@@elliemayfield Although this short was uploaded a year ago, this DnD series was done 5 years ago. It's all available on youtube for free if you want to check out the full episodes.
@@ButterratbeeI don’t think the takeaway was that he was wrong, I think the point they’re getting at is that, while that may be true, considering yourself a “nice guy” to try to get girls is wrong. Saying you’re a “nice guy” is like the equivalent of being a pick me. It’s just the guy version of “I’m not like other girls” and then proceeding to pretend to be something they aren’t to get laid
@@Butterratbee No because his character was wrong. About Johnny Spells, fuck no he was a creep. But about women... absolutely. Nobody is entitled to the people they are attracted to no matter how much that hurts somebody's feelings. Don't be a nice guy, be a good person.
@@Butterratbee He's right in that these "nice guys" will focus on the Johnny spells of the world to feed their own entitlement. They think it's either/or. Either I act like Johnny Spells(except I can't because I'm not attractive, cue blackpilled incel ideology), or be bitter about how all my holding doors and "being nice" to girls aren't being rewarded with affectionate attention. To stay in the fiction, Gorgug isn't acting like a "nice guy" and gets with a girl, he's just not getting with one of the most popular girls in school. "Nice guys" want a popular girl, someone who boosts their social status and self-confidence because "nice guys" fundamentally overcompensate for pathological self-loathing that they expect outside factors to fix for them. It's a kind of cope or wishful thinking: "working and reflecting on myself and having to re-evaluate my standards is hard, it's much rather wait for some outside factor to essentially act as a miracle"
I was weirded out by this moment, in particular, because this dude hadn’t done anything remotely deserving of these insults up until this point in the story. Brennan just used the term “nice guy” to give his players a clue of what stereotype this guy was, but he hadn’t actually done anything wrong. There’s actually nothing wrong with the mentality of “I’m just going to try to be a nice guy and hope someone is eventually attracted to me.” It’s the *entitlement* that is wrong. Feel free to correct me, but at no point is there any real indication that this guy feels entitled to anything, until after this insult is already delivered. I’m pretty sure he was actually pretty kind, and they shit all over him for no reason at all. It was kind of disgusting. But sure, later into this conversation and beyond, he’s way worse. But I don’t think that’s a good excuse for saying what she said to him in that moment.
@@calvinjohnson6242I absolutely agree with you, but she actually gives some great worldly advice imo. It’s easy to fall into that “Woe is me.” trap of feeling jealous of somebody and sit down and sulk about it. It’s harder to take that honest look in the mirror and be like, what am I doing about it? Do I sit here in my cave of depression, unshaven, shoveling in ice cream? Feeling sorry for myself while crying that the girls just want the “bad-boys”? It stings for sure, and they ripped this poor guy that Brennan is playing to absolute shreds! However this, delivered in a gentler way, is something a true friend would tell you. Stop feeling jealous and do something about it. There’s a chance that the guy that you’re jealous of was in the same boat as you but actually did something about it. If you want girls to like you for being you, you’re going to have to take what you get. Sorry it’s 4:00 am, this was meant to say that I agree with you lol
FYI - both people in this were role playing as characters in an RPG. Very good message as the character the guy was playing absolutely needed to hear it.
As a guy, other guys should know that being "nice" is the baseline. It's not a qualifier. it's the equivalent of your refrigerator successfully keeping food cold. It's not an impressive feat, its what you're supposed to do. It's the bare minimum of expectations. Edit: I feel like too many people are overly fixated on my quickly thought up analogy and (maybe deliberately) missing the point, so I'll make it simple for you guys: instead of just being """nice""" or worrying about what other men are doing, just learn a goddamn skill. Art, music, another language, how to cook, i don't care, learn how to do something practical. Thats one way to get women to be interested in you.
Exactly being nice isn't a quality. Its like saying "oh i am not an asshole so that must mean every girl obliged to find me attractive'. We guys say why do girls always go for the assholes what they don't understand they are going for them because they are assholes, they going for them because they are charming or charismatic or have some quality that they desire and most assholes arent advertising that they are assholes. Basically my point to this long winded speech is that being nice isnt a quality and you want women to attracted to you then develop qualities that they find attractive. Learn to be more confident in your bearing and speech. Develop better habits for open and honest communications. Learn present your interests in a more attractive manner.
Just be an interesting person. You can be funny, you can live an exciting life, you can be rich, just think about what it is that makes you worth someone else’s time. If you can’t think of anything, then you need to work on yourself.
There is a difference between "i was nice so give me sex now" and "i will actually be a decent boyfriend to you but you keep picking shitty men while simultaneously complaining about there being no good men out there." Which is an entirely valid criticism of women to be honest. Too many women will pick shitty men because they value fun and spontaneity over reliability and respectful treatment, and then blame men as a whole for the shitty men these women pick, and then shit on the very men calling them out.
@@badwolf3618 Clearly the women what a man who is fun spontaneous and resoectful of her. That's her standard. The respectful dude might not be fun or spontaneous for her. It's valid thing. I am not saying women cannot be toxic about their love lives I am saying that whether they are toxic or not it's not anybody's business but hers. If you wanna be attractive to her then your gonna have to live up to her expectations (this applies if if the roles are reversed as well) and if you are unable to or unwilling to then ots better to shift your focus on to something better.
Exactly. If a guy is 'nice' just for the sake of getting girls to like him, and becomes vicious and hurtful as soon as a girl says 'no', then he was never a nice guy in the first place.
I just want to say there’s no winning in the argument that you should date someone. You can’t call yourself a “nice guy” but honestly there are duck bags that say the same. But on the other side of the coin, why does someone have to prove that they’re worth taking a chance. Like do I have to carry a resume? I honestly used to get more attention from women when I honestly a bum living with my parents, poor paying job, doesn’t own a car, no ambition.
Chick that is super communicative: "So ur even more passive and take even less risks in life than the average person. Idk how ur gonna live a cool and interesting life and don't expect people with MORE interesting lives to come along that'll easily catch my eye. Yeah what could go wrong 😈"
@@PabloTheMushroom it’s ironic because I never saw it coming since I didn’t know “nice” girls existed but fucking hell, they’re so much worse when they have their claws in you. Now I appreciate any woman who can be honest enough with herself to say she’s not perfect yknow?
Except becoming Johnny Spells is essentially what she's telling him to do. Be the vapid, fake, in shape, bike riding brodude. It's like most white women voting for Trump. Women, as a sex, are not nearly as non tribal and progressive as people present them as.
Point being Mr nice guy always has a hidden agenda It's either to scam you, hurt you, or you're going to be part of how game to do those things to someone that matters to you, or their just a pawn in his game
yes😈 a mood, a facade. u never get the real me I get everything I want out of you n leave. so easy to be a “nice guy” or just to be portrayed as you want to be, females are so gullible it’s crazy, not even females just the whole human race.
@@hw047 the only one you’re playing is yourself. The delusions of grandeur and narcissism will eat you up inside until you die realizing you never truly lived.
Yeah ,great point ,guys are supposed to accept the fact that women want the best thing out there ,whether if it's charismatic, popular ,best looking ,rich or most liked. Being nice only gets you pity,so stop the victim hood.
@@tristinandrews6844 There was nothing passive aggressive about this. She had to take a moment to figure out how to say it in a more palatable way, but still answered in a direct manner. It was just (understandably) uncomfortable to hear.
*minor spoilers for sophomore year* I love how Biz still thinks it's a matter of "status" and popularity that makes you interesting to girls, despite the fact that he regularly spends time with Skrank. It really shows how he's blaming women for going towards "bad boys" to avoid working on himself
And inversely what he wants out of a relationship is status and validation, not the actual qualities, activities, and responsibilities that come with being in a relationship.
I feel embarrassed whenever I watch this clip thinking about how better of a person I could’ve been if someone told me this in high school and I didn’t have to learn this lesson on my own six years later
Same. I was a spitting image of this guy in high school and it wasn’t til a year or two into college that I actually started to become a better person (coincidentally, when I became a better person who was more confident in myself, that’s when girls started liking me). Don’t be like me fellas, learn this lesson sooner rather than later.
I would think his response was goign to be "yes, i am on your show, so you should know well enough that my actions are all based on improving myself to be more desirable to a mate even if that made is worth hot garbage"
he's playing a 1 and a half foot tall pixie high school freshman nerd who runs the AV club in a 1980s/stranger things vibe but with fantasy creatures. The girl roasting him is a high elf.
Really was the nicest way to put it. Succinct and to the point. Many would resort to blatant cruelty to avoid any misunderstandings, but she just dove in with a candid analysis.
Listening to the short I thought there was a better way. By explaining that a person a does not have what some women are looking for compared to you don't have much to offer. As well as lowering standard almost defining his worth.
Then again why should a man need to change himself and lower his standards for a woman? Same,argument applies both ways. An asshole who wants to pretend to be nice and expects sex is just a creep, but a genuinely nice dude in this situation who is just like, bruh I am someone who you could be secure with but you keep choosing to go with abusive assholes, needs to realize she is also an asshole and he dont need to lower his standards to that type of woman lol
@@ayudameporfavor1146 just because a woman may keep picking abusive men doesn’t make her an asshole. It probably means that the abusive ways are familiar to her. It’s probably what she knows how to navigate. She probably doesn’t even realize that she has that pattern. Without therapy, some people (men and women) will keep getting into unhealthy relationships. That does not make them assholes.
In all honesty, I really admire people who are brutally honest who have the right intentions. They help you get better and gain awareness. It’s the only way you grow 💁🏻♀️
Ironically, the nice guys are the ones who usually don't like a girl if she's just nice. She has to be attractive first. So do first what you're asking others to do to you
Ironically, the nice girls say that they would date a guy for personality but they end up saying that they need to be 6 ft tall with abs, and if a guy wanted to say that he wanted to date a girl with a preference (appearance wise) that’s apparently misogynistic and they should like them for who they are but when a girl wants him to be tall or be packing it’s fine right??? And girls always expect a man to pay for everything when the girl doesn’t want to pay a single dollar. I also find it funny that it’s apparently misogynistic to ask a girl to make a guy a sandwich when a girl tells a guy to always provide it’s apparently not? Even when shes just applying the same rules to the guy. So do first what you’re asking others to do to you
Guys and girls have different desires. Sure both like attractiveness. But guys go for that FIRST. GUYS ARE VISUALLY BASED. Girls value money and stability wayyyy more than we care about. Looks only matter for girls for getting the conversation started. Or for booty calls. But a guy will wife a hot girl who’s poor.
this clip needed so much more context. brennan absolutely was mocking nice guys but the no context provided makes it seem like he actually believes this. he’s a very nice guy yall ://
So what he is a nice guy. Good for him. That is just part of being a human. There is a list of important aspects of being a partner that goes way beyond nice guy.
@@LynnRPerry ...Right, that was his point with the character he was playing. In case you're completely out of the loop, he's running a game of DnD for the players and voicing a non-player character that was kind of existing solely to mock the "nice guys" stereotype
@@brolly414 I feel as though it's cognitive dissonance going on here, and people understand that "nice", doesn't equal a man who can't be rude or angry after being disrespected, or a man who isn't interesting. It's just someone more pleasant or agreeable. We also ignore that these ladies often date men who actively disrespect them, but are saying things like "improving ones self", and "become more interesting".
@Matilda Ryder PROVE THIS. I keep hearing this bs, but prove how men generally do this on a regular basis, and I'll shut tf up. The vast majority of men, are not being rude when rejected. But I've definitely experienced women being rude out of nowhere for speaking to them. I can prove my claims. Prove yours. Like i said prove your story is going on regularly from these supposed nice guys, and I'll shut up.
He never said nice was enough. The appropriate follow up would be questioning him on his 'a lot to offer' statement and going from there. This whole video and comment section just shows how stupid and quick to react emotionally people have become.
As a former "nice guy", she's spot on. Personally, I just woke up one day and thought, "I don't like who I am anymore." and just started working on myself. Finally started eating right, started working out, started cleaning up (don't get me wrong, it's not like I don't take a shower every day, but I also started trimming and waxing my beard to keep it clean, etc), also started to work on the skills I've always wanted to have like learning a third language, etc. Soon enough, I didn't need to chase anyone. I mean, it's not like women are throwing themselves at me now, but I no longer feel "lacking" if she doesn't like me back. EDIT: Of course, there's more to it than just making myself attractive, I also had to work on getting rid of this idea that just because I liked someone, she MUST like me back, and all that, but focusing on being a better person in general was the 1st step.
You shouldn't need to do any of that for people to find you attractive. If someone doesn't like you for yourself then they aren't worth even paying the smallest bit or attention to.
@@anthonycampbell422 but now hes also himself. Youre not only yourself when youre unhealthy, not putting any work into yourself. Thats rather being depressed not being yourself.
It's scary to me that a lot of people: 1. Don't realize that this is a skit. 2. Are so caught up on the us vs. them that they can't acknowledge BOTH SIDES should ideally be working on bettering themselves so that they're bringing the best they can to the table. 3. What you bring to the table varies for each relationship. What *you* value and need out of a partner is *not* necessarily what another person needs, so please stop trying to force a this or that in every scenario.
Based. Considering how many girls do so little to earn the attention and affection they get, in a world of gender equality, why should men have to work hard to earn affection? Seems completely hypocritical and like a huge double standard. "Work on yourself! Better yourselves men! Earn my love!" "Ok what are you doing to earn my love?" "How dare you! That's sexist! Don't you understand I'm a woman?! Worship me for existing!"
The "both sides" thing is bullshit though. Incels are not a "both sides" issue, they're a direct product of a white, patriarchal system of thought. Women, who are treated as subordinates in these contexts, are not even granted the kind of agency that would warrant what you're saying, that "women should also do better".
The skit part isn't obvious, it just sounds like an honest interaction if you don't know these people. Also doesn't seem like a both sides issue. What she says is aimed at people that think the bare minimum of being nice is satisfying to anyone.
Don't just be a trait, be a person with a trait. Use what you've got to improve yourself, said improvement doesn't stop once a relationship forms or anything that means a lot to you happens.
This is not real life, it is a game of DnD, the guy here (Brennan) is playing the character of a nice-guy npc named Biz Glitterdew, an incel nerd loser as the dm.
This should be told to middle, high school, and college guys so much more clearly. Working on yourself is so important and it's hard to realize that until multiple poor relationships fall through.
@Hippiekid54 you thinking it’s bad advice (for real life) while others think it’s good advice for real life is the whole purpose of this comments thread. It is, in fact, good advice, which is why the commenters have posited the dnd scenario as an accurate simile of life. There are many people who move through the world aimlessly, craving connection, feeing lonely, and do absolutely nothing about it (and feel sorry for themselves). These people are some times men, who are shy, who are considered (by themselves or by others) nice. As a gay man who had plenty of these straight male friends in high school, it was absolutely mind blowing to me that my friends just wanted love and did nothing to make it happen. As someone who was in a small homophobic town, I did everything I could to 1) learn to be happy and satisfied with my life being single, 2) when I finally got the opportunity to meet gay men, make sure I was appealing for sex (since I didn’t care about dating from focusing on solving problem 1) It was clear to me that the guys who got dates/got laid were men who actually did something with themselves. If the only thing that can be said of you is that you’re nice (even if it is really genuine) you’re boring as fuck. - sincerely, a gay man who is into really nerdy, smart, passionate gamers who are proud and loud of their nerddom (but also good hygiene, prioritize health via sports/gym, have good humour, are aware of current events, and like to read/learn) Haaaaaayyyy
@Hippiekid54 our takes aren’t all that different after all. Attraction is personal - it surprises me that your brother doesn’t do better unless he’s really shy (or lacks some other quality of emotional intelligence that rubs folks the wrong way)… Who’s to say? Acknowledging that you have some control over who you are as a viable fish does not mean you are “changing yourself for others”. If the sole reason you’re changing something about yourself is for others, it’s likely a poor change (ie: I agree with you) As for the list of traits at the end of my last post, those are qualities I seek in a partner. I wasn’t listing them as my own qualities. (As a gay man *who’s really into men who are…*) My bad there. Sorry for the confusion. Cheers!
He never said nice was enough and people don't need to work on themselves. The appropriate follow up would be questioning him on his 'a lot to offer' statement and going from there. This whole video and comment section just shows how stupid and quick to react emotionally people have become.
@@theouthousepoet It's not a simile, it is a metaphor or analogy. Regardless, it is good advice but not in the way you assert. People should always work to improve themselves regardless of whether it will get them attention. So on that point it is good advice. But the issue is that the character was saying they had equal worth to someone who also was not presenting anything worthy of attention, which is a valid concern.
Nah as a "nice guy" this girl has a point. I'm so sad about not having a gf but like I haven't done nearly as much as I could to improve myself. Working out, eating right, reading more, being willing to talk to women and people in places, trying to have a routine, being genuinely kind without being a pushover, being courageous, maybe even a new skin routine...kings there's shit we can do that we ain't doing
@@michaelthatoker7125 oh boy another nice guy Stop generalizing women because you had a bad experience. If it was really bad get therapy and get back out there; and if you’ve never been with someone and you’re saying this, stop. Some people are jerks, but not all women are cheating harpies just like not all men think with their dick.
Too many comments insulting Brennan and his physical appearance not knowing he's actually a very kind person in real life and that they're just roleplaying in a D&D game. Smh...
They aren’t roleplaying anything. Nice guys are weasels. Women need to feel safe. We live in a world full of predators. Women want a man, not a weasel. A weasel would beat this guy up. If he adopted more masculine traits he would be much more attractive. Women like bad boys because they don’t follow orders n get told what to do like this guy. Absolutely nothing to do with looks I’d be worried if my sister was dating someone like this as I would be skeptical of his spine in scary situations.
The older you get, the more you realize a lot of attraction comes from just being yourself. You can work on behaviors and issues but if that person is inauthentic that kills it all.
But what if you were always nice and that is just you? Then are you just fucked like I am? I don’t know any different then dropping everything for everyone else I din’t want to change that because that’s me.
yes! only a select few abide by this. even I know this and I have to constantly remind myself not to act to please others rather go get my goals and plans done and then I can provide my help or service to others. Its about keeping your life in straight line and being genuine doing so. :)
@@PR3M0P I was and am just like you. I am nice to everybody because I know everyone comes from certain background that formed their character/behavior that way. However, if you invest most of your energy in trying to please others, you eventually will lose time and energy for your life. if you are a teen, then it is totally normal to not understand why now. its more of a life journey where you see from your own life happenings and you reflect upon those events that happened to you and form your behavior from learnings. that is why it is important to move around and do anything even though idk what to do! just try anything and start planning your day, set goals, workout and run. now you have set plans to do throughout your day. so now when you encounter your friends and neighbors, you have a purpose in your strides, in your conversations, and behaviors. its not just you being pleasant to others when talking, you present your set energy that you are here to lead your life with your set plans. that automatically and will definitely show to others that you are a guy who puts down effort and energy to work on your life and start to treat you differently. it will not be a sudden change because your friends and environment has been w you for long that your thoughts are trapped in those environments. so go for a walk hike and run and make new friends and show your old close friends your initiatives. not even sure why im writing this with passion to some strangers out there. thanks for reading and hope my explanation resonated in your heart. your life will be better. you have already won by asking these questions
another reason why this is a good idea to follow, is that if you act true to yourself, you'll find someone who fits your personality perfectly. Doesn't mean you'll be attractive to a lot of people, but to the ones you are attractive to will be more attracted to you than anyone else. Quality over quanity.
He never said nice was enough. The appropriate follow up would be questioning him on his 'a lot to offer' statement and going from there. This whole video and comment section just shows how stupid and quick to react emotionally people have become.
This is still one of the best fucking exchanges lmao “I think that you feel like you have a lot to offer, and please take this the right way.” “Sure” “You don’t.”
There is such an irony to this because nice girls exist but society assumes they offer more than a man by default just by existing, to the point where it's socially reprehensible to state such. Accept me as I am but bring the sauce
The dude I’m shape and has a motorcycle can also be doing the bare minimum. As an example, yeah he works out and focuses on himself and has a bike but if that’s all he does then at the end of the day he has nothing to offer other than muscle and two wheels. We got to remember there are so many factors we got to include in this argument.
@@juan99101 everything you just said. If that's all a girl wants then SHE'S not bringing much to the table. I know it's roleplay but I would've clapped back hard on that line of bs.
@@bitchass9073 the girl was the asshole…for telling the guy that women shouldn’t have to lower their standards for a man who’s doing the BARE MINIMUM and not making that much of an effort?!? hmm…okay.
@Liam McMahon a man doing the bare minimum by being “nice” isn’t enough to make women want to date them. also believing that just because you’re nice means women should let you have sex with them is SUPER misogynistic and disgusting. do some self reflection please.
@@Kai-dl4vm They're right with their other comment though. Media is heavily pushing body positivity for women and telling us not to judge them based on their looks and accept their personality flaws, stay loyal to them no matter how crazy they get cause of the whole "if you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best" bullshittery. So yaknow...
**SPOILERS** Unless I’m missing something, she didn’t kill her mother though. Just allowed her to be chased by a horrific monster in the nightmare forest for possibly the rest of eternity, right?
@@ExElliexE **SPOILERS** yes HAHAHHAHA honestly the dad got it easy being dead xjdndjd but the mom has a chance for redemption thru the forest i guess?? idk HAHA
The single greatest lesson I've learned in my entire life: don't seek, attract, and the only way to attract anything is to make yourself valuable and attractive to that person or goal.
that’s really bad advice. you need to seek something in order to actually obtain it, like a romantic relationship. that isn’t to stay you shouldn’t work on yourself, but not seeking something is bad
@@PikaBolaChan not necessarily, y’all are not giving context on what “ seeking “ is. It could be simply chilling and looking for the right Opprutunity or catcalling every girl you see and hoping something works . He worded his statement in a weird way but just building yourself and waiting for the relationship to happen is the best move imo
Not to that person to your self. Honestly pulling females is about confidence, so how do we get confidence ? By focusing on makin money and building gains💪🏼. You gotta work hard for everything it sucks but that’s life.
@@matthewhoward7384 That's wrong for one reason imo As an attractive guy I've had a lot of signals to chase that never registered to me till someone else points it out. (Since I'm socially awkward) As such the only times I've been with a woman or formed a relationship was by seeking. Expecting her to land on your lap without chasing doesn't happen. You need to banter with them, and if you're a loner like me who doesn't even talk to other guys like me, that mean seeking
@@fullmetalpleb good point , cause even though I’m not seeking I definitely am good at involving myself in the right situations until something happens, ( talking to a friend group of girls, simply playing and making jokes until I feel like I wanna flirt with someone etc. ) and would like to say I have good social skills, definitely something I didn’t take into account
She communicated this so well and she’s completely right. The “nice guy” concept is basically a victim mindset. You’re not actually a nice guy if you have to proclaim it and bring it to the awareness of others, you’re just trying to use it as leverage to get what you want. It’s the same as the douchebags, just a different strategy
@@samuelbenhardt4230 BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PERSON HAS BEEN THROUGH? I am nice to everyone no matter what and I won’t change that. If that doesn’t give me the chance to be with women then so be it because why should I lower my standards and change myself for a woman? This goes both damn ways and I’m tired of men not being stood up for.
That’s the thing though, coming from an ex-Nice Guy Lite™, that’s exactly what it is. It stems from a complete lack of self-awareness. It takes something external breaking through that lack of awareness to realize “oh my god, I’m _THAT GUY_ aren’t I?” And start to change for the better.
I feel that. I was “not like other girls” vibes in my early teens and then one day I was saying some shit at some extracurricular activity about how “people my age don’t listen to music I listen to, I doubt that anyone in this room knows who my chemical romance is” and then everyone did (because duh) and I truly died inside and had that “oh shit” moment lmao. 12 year old me was a piece of work lmao
@@nilbog_ that’s because English is stupid lol. 22, 32, 92, are all 20’s, 30’s, 90’s, etc… 11 & 12 not being “teens” is just a vestige of older languages merging messily
There's context missing in this clip. They're playing D&D and thus playing characters, the guy's character having been made to be an antagonist. It's all in good fun, between friends.
Also, everyone is different and have different preferences or “types.” The more you fixate on and be bitter about what other people find attractive, the more unattractive you become. Be you, accept yourself, stop comparing yourself to other people, and be confident in who you are. Because that in and of itself is quite attractive to me.
Took me many years of therapy to finally realize this. Other people aren't looking at every fine detail and seeing all your tiny little fuck ups. Don't worry about it. Be you. The confidence and honesty truly shows through your entire personality.
Perspective. Me telling my son that my fiancé treats me well. Explaining he's supportive, does and says things to demonstrate his affection. My son: Well that's what he supposed to do mom!
@@BobRooney290 If telling someone of their shortcomings will deter them from improvement, then I say good riddance and hurray for the superior gene pool.
@@poipoi300 Yeah but there are more people who are stuck in a mire in their own head, and a person telling them what got them in that mire in the first place as if they hadn't heard it before isn't gonna help them and is of course gonna put them on the defensive. Never once have I confronted my brothers about their shortcomings and succeeded. But I do disagree with that Bob Rooney guy (more like Bore Looney), it's a comedy show, if you had a conversation like that IRL it will be awkward or just embarrassing for the guy taking it. Therefor, this situation wouldn't even happen in the first place.
His brain: okay what's the next line of dialogue, I have a lot of world building to complete and this character wasn't supposed to be here for this long
@@pessimisticnihilist3691 He's not a "Nice-guy" he's just a nice guy, with enough bird facts up his sleeves that he's already limitlessly interesting. And just to appease my self conscious ASD mind, I must specify this is me trying to be funny, and I'd say I nailed it.
@@ScarletWyrm1502 I know, he is one of my favourite people that I will never meet in real life. Also, ASD gang rise up, it is good to meet another comrade.
People in the comments taking this way too seriously 😭😭 the character calling himself a nice guy in this scene is literally kidnapping teenage girls and keeping them trapped in arcade games
This clip is very taken out of context. They are PLAYING DnD and she is talking to one of his CHARACTERS as her character. Love her argument, stop bashing this guy for playing a character though.
My high school self needed this lesson desperately. I was so desperate to be liked and trying to be a “nice guy” that I didn’t realize that I was not focused on my studies, or my health. I wasn’t focused on the things I loved, but rather what other people loved It wasn’t until I started college that I worked very hard in school and walked on to a varsity ski team that i became interested more in what I loved. I finally had more interest (not a lot, but more) from potential suitors. The best part was, I didn’t do it to impress them, I did it because it made me better, it was fun, and my progress made me proud.
Despite this all being a joke. This is literally what “nice guys” need to hear Edit: insane amount of losers in the comments who apparently don’t know what a “nice guy” is💀
@@ConnerV you just don’t understand people is all unless you explain more on what you feel like that’s just a broad generalization that’s doesn’t make sense
i watched a video recently that explained the nice guy thing in different context, and obviously there’s nothing wrong with “nice guys”, but often time a line gets crossed when a guy feels entitled to a woman’s affection because they are a nice guy which is not true and almost like a woman owes them that affection because of it
You mean like when women feel entitled to a man’s money because he’s interested in her. Or how they feel like if they make the first move and you reflect them they legit throw a fit?
@@bronjesamuel1054 'throwing a fit' is a mite better than men being scorned bc a woman said no to them, and then him literally murdering them. False equivalency in action, neckbeard.
If i’m being nice and i’m going out of my way then you should respect that i’m not saying accept it but respect the hustle and most of these nice guys sit in the background and don’t believe they can make it when their personal experience is shitty guys I’ve experienced it but what does it mean to offer? Why does it take so much to get a woman but when you ask woman they think men are so easy.
@@PR3M0P Most women really do respect that you're nice. That just doesn't necessarily make them want to date you. You need something else to you other than "I'm not an asshole", when actually, a bunch of nice guys are just assholes the moment they're rejected anyway.
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I like the idea of a sorcerer accidentally casting spell based on role play moment. Like even if the DM is forcing a cast (maybe at a bonus level higher or something). For example this moment, but the DM actually forces the cast of vicious mockery (maybe even for free).
Also keep in mind that even once you are working on yourself, develop hobbies, and find an ambition, there will still be many women who don't find you interesting. Why? Because there's a lot of women, and they all have different interests and personalities. So just keep working and being yourself until you find the one who does find you interesting.
She hit the nail. I absolutely had this mentality back in my mid teens and when I finally realized that I just had an ego problem and started taking care of myself it really put things into perspective and since have been in a loving relationship for 5 years strong.
@@AmbersDangleenAnkle not mad. Just can’t help but think in order to possess the “improve yourself” mindset you have to be living in a complete state of denial of the fact that you’re going to die & all of your efforts will be for nothing. To me this is very unattractive; when I see a woman captured by this delusion it’s an instant turn-off. Just being honest about how I feel.
@@AmbersDangleenAnkle also I’m not a fan of women telling men how to behave. “I will continually reject you until you behave how I feel like men should behave”. How about mind your own business.
He never said nice was enough. The appropriate follow up would be questioning him on his 'a lot to offer' statement and going from there. This whole video and comment section just shows how stupid and quick to react emotionally people have become.
@Kuru "This video shows a short clip from a roleplaying session, not a real conversation..."Say that to the entire comment section. Seems to be a lot of YAAAAS QUEEN mentality going on. Kinda pathetic.
The moment you try to make yourself interesting and attractive is when you lose your life. Just be you, do stuff you wanna do, and there will be a person who'll come along and love you for who you are. At the end of the day, all we can offer is ourselves.
@Charisma Musician Since God knows when it has been an understanding that men must “prove worthy” not just for love and affection, but also for respect. Don't be desperate for the attention of the opposite sex. If they don't think you're worthy, they're just not worth it.
Being into comics, anime, and video games, I can tell you, has not gotten me any tail. It was a difficult epiphany, but I realized, I'm boring. Truth. And it's too late now. If being yourself hasn't worked, it probably won't later. Sad, I know.
@@bryanwhitaker1429 That's because of your mindset. I know a guy who's the geekiest person I could possibly imagine, and I'm a writer, so it says a lot. I mean, he's attending comicons, collecting figurines (his room is full of them, including big Vader, and basically looks like a room of 15year-old), he's living with a roommate, watches anime and plays PC A LOT. He's not close to as handsome as I am, and yet he’s never had any problems with girls whatsoever. He doesn't have a girlfriend, but that's his choice. He's almost always bringing a girl to his apartment(room) after a party or after going out, if he's not planning on playing championship or something. I've figured it's because two things - 1) he's always taken care of himself in terms of hygiene. He's always clean, his hair looks good and he smells nice. No homo stuff. Just something I've noticed. 2) He's insanely confident. He's always talking about his hobbies, comics, anime and games, but he talks about them with such passion that even if you thought it's lame, it doesn't look lame on him. When he talks about them, it sounds cool. It's real deep for him. For example, he's always saying video games are like a move+book where you write your own story. It gives him experience like no other art form can (yeah, he calls his hobbies art, including figurines), and when he's talking anime, it sounds like he's talking about a movie that gives emotional experience, is deep, shows clashes of the society and is a glimpse of Japanese culture at the same time. It just sounds cool, even if you'd yourself never watch it, you accept it. Granted, it doesn't always work, and there are people with thick brain, but he has showed me that everything depends on 1) How we'll you take care of yourself 2) how we'll you can sell ourselves. To me, it sounds like you've never been confident in yourself. There's no reason not to be. People like confidence and strength. Just as long as you don't wear shorts with high socks and sandals, and have dirty, long hair with a mustache, your hobbies shouldn't be a problem at all. Besides, there are many girls with the same hobby.
@@valterspatriks8752 listen, I'm gonna be honest with you; I skimmed all that. I understand you're trying to make a point, but for the love of God, don't write me a book. Secondly, mindset or not, it's irrelevant. It's my mind, after all. Am I just supposed to change it? While I'm at it, I'll just stop having anxiety too.
Wow. I've never heard the "nice guy" thing explained away like this. Suuuper insightful, and I've learned something today. Vicious mockery is the most effective cantrip...
In my experience, the guys who go around saying “why not me? I’m a nice guy!” Usually have some other major character flaw. Like narcissistic traits, is super controlling or clingy or something. I’ve also noticed that guys that say they’re “nice guys” will immediately call you a bitch or ugly if you turn them down.
I agree with both Britanny and Chris. Most nice guys have some character flaw. But that does not mean they are different from the bad boy. The bad boy usually is preferred because he is attractive physically, or has some sort of sex appeal. It’s not about standards or anything. It’s usually who she is attracted to, which to me, that’s barely a standard. So when the woman is saying raising the standard, it’s the quality of the standard, but she is right also because you just can’t be nice and present that to a woman. Those are red flags left snd right. The problem is both men and women lack ethics and character. People want to be good so they can accept something, and also, both parties want each other for superficial reasons. Like he is mad she is dating someone hotter or more attractive than him. That’s going to look and come off bad to her instinctively and understandably. Imagine he had a different attitude. Imagine he sat quietly and remained silent for a long while and looked at the woman and said, “ you know what, I actually never thought about it that way, thanks for opening my mind a little bit.” Imagine how that woman would feel? She might not like him, but imagine the change of how she will feel. A lot of nice guys don’t really self reflect. They also lack the self awareness to actually see their own potential to be captivating to the opposite sex, they lack motivation, passion, mindset, authenticity, masculinity, character and truth. They also lack the ability to understand the world is just not fair. A man who has all these qualities is guaranteed to find a good woman. Now who that woman is I don’t know. From my personal opinion. I don’t understand why he would want the woman who is dating the complete opposite of who he wants. If he thinks he is such a nice guy, then date a nice girl. But we all know that’s not what he wants lol. You can see how different my mindset and his mindset is. When you are your own personality and individual, and are living true to yourself. You will be surprised how you look the world, the pretty girl everyone wants is not that interesting to you, or she could be interesting. But at least you are not treating her like she is some kind of angel, because she ain’t. Sometimes the guy is not the ass, sometimes, it’s the guy who has character snd the woman who is daft. Sometimes you see her as dating a jerk because you see a man who has strength in who he is and respect, and you think he is a jerk because he says what he means and means what he says. If that’s a jerk, hey sign me up. The other day, a friend of mine, a woman said I will drive a woman absolutely insane, why? Because I do stuff my way, or the right way, I don’t take shortcuts. I just looked at her and said, “I’d rather drive a woman nuts, than to betray who I am.” That’s something I see lacking in a lot of men, especially the “nice guys”
In my experience, the girls who go around thinking "I'm so beautiful, I deserve only the best!" Usually have multiple major character flaws. Like narcissistic traits, or being entitled and never satisfied no matter how great things appear. Then when the 13th Chad in a row throws them to the curb they cry on TikTok about "where are all the nice guys?!?;!"
@@nintruendo6411 Well we all doubt you’ve actually had any experience with this tbh but I mean… I guess it is something that’s out there which is also toxic so yeah we’ll note that for when you all start that conversation on your own.
@@enzerabowenzu5340 I tried to link it earlier and youtube doesn't let you. You should easily be able to find a whole youtube channel/series on that channel tho
Really this is what a DM does make a character that you can relate to and love or hate on their merits guy is a good dm I like to do the same for my players.
What confuses him is why women are attracted to people who very much aren't nice or kind and the spend an inordinate amount of time and effort trying to change them.
@@sheadoherty7434 Yes, which goes to prove my point. Some women talk about wanting respect and somebody who treats them well but they don't want to date or have sex with that person unless it comes in a package that is hotter (and probably a foot taller) than her.
Lol! Yes!!!!! "I'm a nice guy." What he means is he lacks humility and is devoid of anything else to offer. Why would "I'm nice" ever be the first thing you would say about yourself?
Of course not. Kind people consider being nice just a baseline they expect from themselves, not a defining characteristic. People who make a big deal out of being nice are people for whom acting nice is something they have to work at.
My husband calls himself an asshole, and he definitely can be, but his baseline is sweet and kind and generous. He always thinks what he could be doing to improve other people’s lives or just give them a smile, and not what they could or should do in return. He’s his own harshest critic, and I’m his biggest cheerleader. Which is all to say, i agree
The problem with nice guys is that they are rarely ever actually nice. If you feel a girl should date you because you're nice to her, you aren't a good person. A real nice guy is someone whos kind to someone with 0 expectations of anything reciprocated. If you however feel like you're being doormatted, walk away. It's that simple. The moment you say "why won't she date me, instead of that dumb hunk" youeve fucked up
That also makes that guy a chump. A nce guy should be somone who helps within reason but expects reciprocity in his interaction. If i treat you fairly i expect you to not be a dick. If i enforce that using fangs that doesn't make me a dick, that's just me protecting myself. The entire comentary of nice guys is simply that they see trash humans getting chances and repeatedly inflicting their own brand of trauma on their partners without any of that baseline niceness but some how when it comes to nice guys (who know factually that they are atleast better than those waste of space) we need to be a 8th Dan black belt in enlightenment and self actualisation to be given a shot.
Being kind as a trait adds to a relationship. Kindness is not simply the absence of douchebaggery. What a low bar to set! Nice guy reasoning: "I walked 6 paces away before I farted WHEN I could have farted in your face. Look at how nice I am." 😁💨
This is actually what I was going to say. I feel like when guys say "I'm a nice guy, please date (choose) me" it comes off as "I'm putting you on a pedestal, choose me even though it's clear you don't want me, and I'm not going to put any effort to get you to want me, but I'm a nice guy". I'm sure this is a huge turn off for women. And the reason why I can say this is because I've fell in this way of thinking early In life and I'm glad to of learned this lesson. For example I'm a big guy, have been for a long time. And it would be completely understandable for someone to look at me and say wow he doesn't take care of himself. But now that I've started going to the gym people now say, wow he saw he had an issue and is now taking care of it. And now I get girls that want to start conversations with me and they also learn that I'm a father of a autistic child, own my house and car, have a stable job, on top of a goofy personality. And see a man that knows how to take care of himself which makes women attracted to me. I'm showing the world what I'm worth rather than telling the world what I'm worth.
My comeback for these things is always that nice is the baseline. Almost every pen writes but there's a reason I go with fountain pens. They're smooth, refillable, reliable, and weighty. They do more than just write. You need to be more than "nice."
@@lifeinnirvana4810 I think he's saying women don't need to be more than nice and are held to a different standard than men. Sounds like typical incel woe-is-me misogyny.
@@WINCHOism Kinda bull shit when you think about it. She's playing DND and that makes her much more hot, but if I play DND, it has the opposite effect... fuck!
@@jordanharrison8769 exactly women don't have to offer anything than winning generic lottery yet men have to be buff, good looking, rich because somehow a hot chick deserves these things for being.... Hot? Even though her hotness will fall off a cliff by 30s.
I wish I knew even the first step to get started in D&D. I've been watching these clips and videos on TH-cam and want to get into this so bad. I'm in my mid 30s and believe I've found the best outlet for some of my current substance abuse. I honestly believe this shit is amazing.
Everyone tells me I’m super nice, even though I feel like I’m an asshole a lot of the time, I feel like “nice” guys, the ones who constantly talk about how “nice” they are are usually the most toxic ones. It’s kinda like how the smarter you think you are, the stupider you actually are.
Exactly. One of the first lessons I learned about men. If he claims to be a " nice guy" avoid him at all costs. A real nice person Wouldn't need to announce it.
@@kapitan19969838 waaah the assholes get the girl hmmmm >:( ok whatever "nice guy" women dont owe you shit just because you opened a door for them one time
Another question we can ask ourselves is "If I DO have something to offer, how are other people supposed to know about it?" Like, let's say I'm funny. I make really funny memes on anonymous discussion boards, and I come up with wisecrack responses and jokes in my head, but I never actually make jokes with people around me in real life because I'm afraid of botching them. Then from the perspective of another person, I don't seem to be funny. There's no evidence available to them to suggest that. So if they like funny people, if they're attracted to it, I'm not gonna be the first person they look to in order to find it. They'll probably first notice someone who actually tells jokes and is openly funny. And that is perfectly logical and understandable.
The fact that people don’t know this is from a dungeons and dragons show is so sad and funny 😭 this is the exact opposite kind of person Brennan is LMAO
It's truly my guilty pleasure to see people not in the know go on their MGTOW/incel rants while ignoring the fact that they're just playing D&D
The fact that they don’t know just advocates Brennans acting ability
What’s the show called?
@@absIock fantasy high
It has two seasons, the first season is available on TH-cam. It’s really good
even with the "casting vicious mockery" at the end 😭
This is casting healing word and vicious mockery simultaneously.
😂 No offense, but...
Ah, if therapy was a spell
More like guidance I think 🤔
This man then proceeds to trap women inside of crystals and upload them to video games
Such a nice guy :)
Isn't that an episode of Black Mirror
Spoilers!! No!
@@hamburgerdog25 Yeye, pretty much. S4E1, USS Callister. Jesse Plemons was phenomenal and makes me so uncomfortable.
@@moriane. that episode was cool for a grand total of like 5 minutes and then the creepiness and existential crises just kind of rush in. I do recall the ending being victorious though
“I think you feel like you have a lot to offer - and please take this the right way - but you don’t” is a line that has stuck with me forever
It's been a few months now, is it still sticking with you?
This is a game of DnD, the guy (Brennan) is playing the character of a nice-guy npc as the dm.
It's been a year, is it still with you?
It was the pause for me “… you don’t.” This moment will live rent free in my head forever 😂😂
@@elliemayfield Although this short was uploaded a year ago, this DnD series was done 5 years ago.
It's all available on youtube for free if you want to check out the full episodes.
The worst part is, Brennan's playing a character, but there are actually people who are like that and think like that
@@ButterratbeeI don’t think the takeaway was that he was wrong, I think the point they’re getting at is that, while that may be true, considering yourself a “nice guy” to try to get girls is wrong. Saying you’re a “nice guy” is like the equivalent of being a pick me. It’s just the guy version of “I’m not like other girls” and then proceeding to pretend to be something they aren’t to get laid
@@Butterratbee No because his character was wrong. About Johnny Spells, fuck no he was a creep. But about women... absolutely. Nobody is entitled to the people they are attracted to no matter how much that hurts somebody's feelings. Don't be a nice guy, be a good person.
@@Butterratbee He's right in that these "nice guys" will focus on the Johnny spells of the world to feed their own entitlement. They think it's either/or. Either I act like Johnny Spells(except I can't because I'm not attractive, cue blackpilled incel ideology), or be bitter about how all my holding doors and "being nice" to girls aren't being rewarded with affectionate attention.
To stay in the fiction, Gorgug isn't acting like a "nice guy" and gets with a girl, he's just not getting with one of the most popular girls in school. "Nice guys" want a popular girl, someone who boosts their social status and self-confidence because "nice guys" fundamentally overcompensate for pathological self-loathing that they expect outside factors to fix for them. It's a kind of cope or wishful thinking: "working and reflecting on myself and having to re-evaluate my standards is hard, it's much rather wait for some outside factor to essentially act as a miracle"
I was weirded out by this moment, in particular, because this dude hadn’t done anything remotely deserving of these insults up until this point in the story.
Brennan just used the term “nice guy” to give his players a clue of what stereotype this guy was, but he hadn’t actually done anything wrong.
There’s actually nothing wrong with the mentality of “I’m just going to try to be a nice guy and hope someone is eventually attracted to me.” It’s the *entitlement* that is wrong.
Feel free to correct me, but at no point is there any real indication that this guy feels entitled to anything, until after this insult is already delivered.
I’m pretty sure he was actually pretty kind, and they shit all over him for no reason at all. It was kind of disgusting.
But sure, later into this conversation and beyond, he’s way worse. But I don’t think that’s a good excuse for saying what she said to him in that moment.
@@calvinjohnson6242I absolutely agree with you, but she actually gives some great worldly advice imo. It’s easy to fall into that “Woe is me.” trap of feeling jealous of somebody and sit down and sulk about it. It’s harder to take that honest look in the mirror and be like, what am I doing about it? Do I sit here in my cave of depression, unshaven, shoveling in ice cream? Feeling sorry for myself while crying that the girls just want the “bad-boys”? It stings for sure, and they ripped this poor guy that Brennan is playing to absolute shreds!
However this, delivered in a gentler way, is something a true friend would tell you. Stop feeling jealous and do something about it. There’s a chance that the guy that you’re jealous of was in the same boat as you but actually did something about it. If you want girls to like you for being you, you’re going to have to take what you get.
Sorry it’s 4:00 am, this was meant to say that I agree with you lol
FYI - both people in this were role playing as characters in an RPG. Very good message as the character the guy was playing absolutely needed to hear it.
What is the serie called?
@@abelmol7928 Dimension 20: Fantasy High. Season 1 is on TH-cam
Thanks, that makes sense because it seems savage as fuck
Oh cmon I was having such a great time thinking she just lovingly roasted her friend alive
@@lucygoosey69 there was probably some of that going on too if I know anything about role-playing
Even though it's all acting, I think there's definitely some people who need to hear this.
Just admit it's you lol
@@Humblebrownboy I think you're projecting.
@@Zeverinsen did u really just say no u?
*Queue the Spiderman pointing at himself meme*
@@ArividerchiMagmuasue to be fair, the first reply was also a recorded no u. Play dumbass games, win dumbass prizes.
This felt so real I had no idea this was a d&d show until they started making references to spells and shit
As a guy, other guys should know that being "nice" is the baseline. It's not a qualifier. it's the equivalent of your refrigerator successfully keeping food cold. It's not an impressive feat, its what you're supposed to do. It's the bare minimum of expectations.
Edit: I feel like too many people are overly fixated on my quickly thought up analogy and (maybe deliberately) missing the point, so I'll make it simple for you guys: instead of just being """nice""" or worrying about what other men are doing, just learn a goddamn skill. Art, music, another language, how to cook, i don't care, learn how to do something practical. Thats one way to get women to be interested in you.
You're right and Scratch the bird guy has more game than Bliz Glitterdue the fairy
Exactly being nice isn't a quality. Its like saying "oh i am not an asshole so that must mean every girl obliged to find me attractive'. We guys say why do girls always go for the assholes what they don't understand they are going for them because they are assholes, they going for them because they are charming or charismatic or have some quality that they desire and most assholes arent advertising that they are assholes. Basically my point to this long winded speech is that being nice isnt a quality and you want women to attracted to you then develop qualities that they find attractive. Learn to be more confident in your bearing and speech. Develop better habits for open and honest communications. Learn present your interests in a more attractive manner.
Just be an interesting person. You can be funny, you can live an exciting life, you can be rich, just think about what it is that makes you worth someone else’s time. If you can’t think of anything, then you need to work on yourself.
There is a difference between "i was nice so give me sex now" and "i will actually be a decent boyfriend to you but you keep picking shitty men while simultaneously complaining about there being no good men out there."
Which is an entirely valid criticism of women to be honest. Too many women will pick shitty men because they value fun and spontaneity over reliability and respectful treatment, and then blame men as a whole for the shitty men these women pick, and then shit on the very men calling them out.
@@badwolf3618 Clearly the women what a man who is fun spontaneous and resoectful of her. That's her standard. The respectful dude might not be fun or spontaneous for her. It's valid thing. I am not saying women cannot be toxic about their love lives I am saying that whether they are toxic or not it's not anybody's business but hers. If you wanna be attractive to her then your gonna have to live up to her expectations (this applies if if the roles are reversed as well) and if you are unable to or unwilling to then ots better to shift your focus on to something better.
The ironic thing is it’s usually the guys who are so hung up on being “nice,” who are not actually all that nice….
Exactly. If a guy is 'nice' just for the sake of getting girls to like him, and becomes vicious and hurtful as soon as a girl says 'no', then he was never a nice guy in the first place.
100% and everyone thinks they are a nice person, if that's what they think their best feature is that just means they have no redeeming qualities.
Skippy the Virgin is a prime example.
Well of course. Because if they are acting like being nice is such a task for them, it probably is lmao
I just want to say there’s no winning in the argument that you should date someone. You can’t call yourself a “nice guy” but honestly there are duck bags that say the same. But on the other side of the coin, why does someone have to prove that they’re worth taking a chance. Like do I have to carry a resume? I honestly used to get more attention from women when I honestly a bum living with my parents, poor paying job, doesn’t own a car, no ambition.
"What's great about you?"
"I'm nice."
"OK what else"
"I'm like REALLY nice"
Yeah had an ex like that, surprisingly when she earned the Ex title she wasn’t very “nice” anymore.
@@GodMajik ah, a “nice girl,”gotta love ‘em.
But that's not wat the clip said lol
Chick that is super communicative:
"So ur even more passive and take even less risks in life than the average person. Idk how ur gonna live a cool and interesting life and don't expect people with MORE interesting lives to come along that'll easily catch my eye. Yeah what could go wrong 😈"
@@PabloTheMushroom it’s ironic because I never saw it coming since I didn’t know “nice” girls existed but fucking hell, they’re so much worse when they have their claws in you. Now I appreciate any woman who can be honest enough with herself to say she’s not perfect yknow?
i love when the other guy lowers his head and sighs when he says "nice guys" 😂 he knows whats up
This is a game of DnD, they are acting. Brennan Lee Mulligan (the guy) is absolutely not a nice guy irl.
I think this came out wrong…
Random Yogs fan sighting
@@pessimisticnihilist3691he's the nicest guy , he's just not a Nice Guy
Except becoming Johnny Spells is essentially what she's telling him to do. Be the vapid, fake, in shape, bike riding brodude.
It's like most white women voting for Trump. Women, as a sex, are not nearly as non tribal and progressive as people present them as.
There's a huge difference between a nice guy and a good man. Niceness is a mood, good qualities are built on over years of consistency.
Point being
Mr nice guy always has a hidden agenda
It's either to scam you, hurt you, or you're going to be part of how game to do those things to someone that matters to you, or their just a pawn in his game
yes😈 a mood, a facade. u never get the real me I get everything I want out of you n leave. so easy to be a “nice guy” or just to be portrayed as you want to be, females are so gullible it’s crazy, not even females just the whole human race.
@@hw047 the only one you’re playing is yourself. The delusions of grandeur and narcissism will eat you up inside until you die realizing you never truly lived.
@@hw047 I’ve never seen a more narcissistic comment.
niceness is just what comes outta your mouth.
She went hard-core in the softest way possible. I can appreciate that
Passive aggression the females greatest tactic
There’s nothing soft about saying things so that the world can see it
Yeah ,great point ,guys are supposed to accept the fact that women want the best thing out there ,whether if it's charismatic, popular ,best looking ,rich or most liked. Being nice only gets you pity,so stop the victim hood.
@@tristinandrews6844
There was nothing passive aggressive about this. She had to take a moment to figure out how to say it in a more palatable way, but still answered in a direct manner. It was just (understandably) uncomfortable to hear.
@@tristinandrews6844 so telling you things you don’t want to hear but without yelling at you or trying to cause harm is being passive aggressive?
Siobhan telling this character just straight up NO was one of the most cathartic things I have ever experienced
Honestly one of the best moments. I rember watching it and being like "Yooooooo"
She was so gentle at first so I was like ahh man cmon don’t sugar coat it then she’s just like
“You don’t”
OH. OKAY LMAO YES
@@lucygoosey69 Got a link to the full video?
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@@camdawg8062 It's Dimension 20 on Dropout, their subscription service. Definitely worth it, in my opinion. They've got a lot of good stuff on there.
*minor spoilers for sophomore year* I love how Biz still thinks it's a matter of "status" and popularity that makes you interesting to girls, despite the fact that he regularly spends time with Skrank. It really shows how he's blaming women for going towards "bad boys" to avoid working on himself
And skrank is like super popular despite being a stereotypical nerd
And inversely what he wants out of a relationship is status and validation, not the actual qualities, activities, and responsibilities that come with being in a relationship.
I feel embarrassed whenever I watch this clip thinking about how better of a person I could’ve been if someone told me this in high school and I didn’t have to learn this lesson on my own six years later
Hey, better late than never my dude. Some people still have this thinking and personality today in their adult lives.
Hope it works out for you dude!
I’m right there with you my guy
Same. I was a spitting image of this guy in high school and it wasn’t til a year or two into college that I actually started to become a better person (coincidentally, when I became a better person who was more confident in myself, that’s when girls started liking me). Don’t be like me fellas, learn this lesson sooner rather than later.
You probably werent ready.
I love how Brennan went like: 'Hard to find a great way to take that, if I'm being super honest.'
He's such a good DM, stayed in character XD
"Are you doing anything to make yourself more interesting and attractive?"
*uhhhhhh*
😂😂😂
Just do it bruh
Right??
I'll change my face brb
I would think his response was goign to be "yes, i am on your show, so you should know well enough that my actions are all based on improving myself to be more desirable to a mate even if that made is worth hot garbage"
I was sitting here like "christ almighy that is BRUTAL" then on the replay I realized he was doing a voice and I was like "oh it must be roleplay"
This is a dungeons & dragons campaign :)
he's playing a 1 and a half foot tall pixie high school freshman nerd who runs the AV club in a 1980s/stranger things vibe but with fantasy creatures. The girl roasting him is a high elf.
@@gwen9939 He’s a junior. It’s worse.
Really was the nicest way to put it. Succinct and to the point. Many would resort to blatant cruelty to avoid any misunderstandings, but she just dove in with a candid analysis.
Listening to the short I thought there was a better way. By explaining that a person a does not have what some women are looking for compared to you don't have much to offer. As well as lowering standard almost defining his worth.
I agree with both of you. It's subjective what people want. And personal development is right up there with nearly everybody.
Then again why should a man need to change himself and lower his standards for a woman? Same,argument applies both ways. An asshole who wants to pretend to be nice and expects sex is just a creep, but a genuinely nice dude in this situation who is just like, bruh I am someone who you could be secure with but you keep choosing to go with abusive assholes, needs to realize she is also an asshole and he dont need to lower his standards to that type of woman lol
@@solomonrobertson845 people will either be interested or not, all this other crap is just bullshit.
@@ayudameporfavor1146 just because a woman may keep picking abusive men doesn’t make her an asshole. It probably means that the abusive ways are familiar to her. It’s probably what she knows how to navigate. She probably doesn’t even realize that she has that pattern. Without therapy, some people (men and women) will keep getting into unhealthy relationships. That does not make them assholes.
In all honesty, I really admire people who are brutally honest who have the right intentions. They help you get better and gain awareness.
It’s the only way you grow 💁🏻♀️
Well said 👍🏾
She was 100% correct and did that man a service. That nice guy shit is delusional
I agree, but there is nothing about these woman that offers more to men than this guy offers. None are good looking.
ur all aware this is roleplay right…?
@Biden Cringe she gave him the advice of his life. Bro about to go on to actually have a love life after this
Ironically, the nice guys are the ones who usually don't like a girl if she's just nice. She has to be attractive first. So do first what you're asking others to do to you
Ironically, the nice girls say that they would date a guy for personality but they end up saying that they need to be 6 ft tall with abs, and if a guy wanted to say that he wanted to date a girl with a preference (appearance wise) that’s apparently misogynistic and they should like them for who they are but when a girl wants him to be tall or be packing it’s fine right??? And girls always expect a man to pay for everything when the girl doesn’t want to pay a single dollar. I also find it funny that it’s apparently misogynistic to ask a girl to make a guy a sandwich when a girl tells a guy to always provide it’s apparently not? Even when shes just applying the same rules to the guy. So do first what you’re asking others to do to you
@@notlilj6619 you're not describing a nice girl dude. You're describing a jerk
this is a generalization
@@notlilj6619 sounds like a incel talk
Guys and girls have different desires. Sure both like attractiveness. But guys go for that FIRST. GUYS ARE VISUALLY BASED. Girls value money and stability wayyyy more than we care about. Looks only matter for girls for getting the conversation started. Or for booty calls. But a guy will wife a hot girl who’s poor.
Brennan played a character so well people think that’s how he is in real life.
this clip needed so much more context. brennan absolutely was mocking nice guys but the no context provided makes it seem like he actually believes this. he’s a very nice guy yall ://
I know. 😂
I feel like a lot of people in the comments are actually judging him as the nice guy that he's portraying.
Kinda makes it funnier.
So what he is a nice guy. Good for him. That is just part of being a human. There is a list of important aspects of being a partner that goes way beyond nice guy.
@@LynnRPerry ...Right, that was his point with the character he was playing. In case you're completely out of the loop, he's running a game of DnD for the players and voicing a non-player character that was kind of existing solely to mock the "nice guys" stereotype
This coming from a smoking hot librarian look chick. OUCH !!!!
@@DC-nk9jx she's got a funny shaped head, hard 6
"I said I'm a nice guy, bitch!"
Now, how does the "not nice guy" react?
@@Neo.Jordon Usually with more intensity but least with some level of self-honesty. Introspection is not a strong point with Nice Guys™️
@@brolly414 I feel as though it's cognitive dissonance going on here, and people understand that "nice", doesn't equal a man who can't be rude or angry after being disrespected, or a man who isn't interesting. It's just someone more pleasant or agreeable.
We also ignore that these ladies often date men who actively disrespect them, but are saying things like "improving ones self", and "become more interesting".
@Matilda Ryder PROVE THIS.
I keep hearing this bs, but prove how men generally do this on a regular basis, and I'll shut tf up.
The vast majority of men, are not being rude when rejected. But I've definitely experienced women being rude out of nowhere for speaking to them. I can prove my claims. Prove yours.
Like i said prove your story is going on regularly from these supposed nice guys, and I'll shut up.
@Matilda Ryder in this clip, he wasnt asking her out, he was being told hes worthless for no reason
It's not even mockery, it's the best possible take on the matter
Especially coz Johnny Spells doesn't fuck, so the bar is really clearable
Most white women voted for Trump. Many women want to be owned and controlled by a man and that's just a fact.
i love the murphs reactions so much lmao, brennan is so good at what he does and so is siobhan. really, the whole cast is great at what they do
That wasn’t vicious mockery, that was power word kill.
He never said nice was enough. The appropriate follow up would be questioning him on his 'a lot to offer' statement and going from there. This whole video and comment section just shows how stupid and quick to react emotionally people have become.
Vicious*
Viscous refers to a state/thickness of a liquid: a liquids viscosity.
@@Orion_TheyThem whoops, you’re right. I think autocorrect might have gotten to that one.
Personally, I’d say power word stun. Not quite kill but certainly enough to inflict emotional damage
@@Vgamer311 possibly lol. Although when you think about how dense he was being, viscous Could apply........😂😂🤣🤣
The "nice guy" is the new "im not like the other girls" 😂
No...I'm not like the Other girls don't rape people.
@@thesorrowsofmotherlovejoy9894 women can rape people too?
@@ChristianHernandez-ce3id u are the perfect example of what we mean, pick me man thanks for the flash news 😐
@@Gloria-dk6iz I’m literally on y’all’s side of this argument wtf are you talking about 💀 you’re psychotic, get diagnosed and medicated
Istg it’s so embarrassing
As a former "nice guy", she's spot on. Personally, I just woke up one day and thought, "I don't like who I am anymore." and just started working on myself. Finally started eating right, started working out, started cleaning up (don't get me wrong, it's not like I don't take a shower every day, but I also started trimming and waxing my beard to keep it clean, etc), also started to work on the skills I've always wanted to have like learning a third language, etc.
Soon enough, I didn't need to chase anyone. I mean, it's not like women are throwing themselves at me now, but I no longer feel "lacking" if she doesn't like me back.
EDIT: Of course, there's more to it than just making myself attractive, I also had to work on getting rid of this idea that just because I liked someone, she MUST like me back, and all that, but focusing on being a better person in general was the 1st step.
👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
Keep up the good work
So happy for you, that's a big big change!❤️
Just wanted to throw in a congrats on self improvement. I went through a similar change in college and it was a real life changer.
You shouldn't need to do any of that for people to find you attractive. If someone doesn't like you for yourself then they aren't worth even paying the smallest bit or attention to.
@@anthonycampbell422 but now hes also himself. Youre not only yourself when youre unhealthy, not putting any work into yourself. Thats rather being depressed not being yourself.
It's scary to me that a lot of people:
1. Don't realize that this is a skit.
2. Are so caught up on the us vs. them that they can't acknowledge BOTH SIDES should ideally be working on bettering themselves so that they're bringing the best they can to the table.
3. What you bring to the table varies for each relationship. What *you* value and need out of a partner is *not* necessarily what another person needs, so please stop trying to force a this or that in every scenario.
Based. Considering how many girls do so little to earn the attention and affection they get, in a world of gender equality, why should men have to work hard to earn affection? Seems completely hypocritical and like a huge double standard.
"Work on yourself! Better yourselves men! Earn my love!"
"Ok what are you doing to earn my love?"
"How dare you! That's sexist! Don't you understand I'm a woman?! Worship me for existing!"
YES!!!!
The "both sides" thing is bullshit though. Incels are not a "both sides" issue, they're a direct product of a white, patriarchal system of thought. Women, who are treated as subordinates in these contexts, are not even granted the kind of agency that would warrant what you're saying, that "women should also do better".
It's not a skit. They're not putting on a play.
It's a game.
The skit part isn't obvious, it just sounds like an honest interaction if you don't know these people.
Also doesn't seem like a both sides issue. What she says is aimed at people that think the bare minimum of being nice is satisfying to anyone.
Don't just be a trait, be a person with a trait. Use what you've got to improve yourself, said improvement doesn't stop once a relationship forms or anything that means a lot to you happens.
Yes improve yourself only for YOU!!! Not for a girl/guy learn how to understand and love yourself once you gain that no one can defeat u!!
Whatever it has to be done YOU yourself.
This is not real life, it is a game of DnD, the guy here (Brennan) is playing the character of a nice-guy npc named Biz Glitterdew, an incel nerd loser as the dm.
This should be told to middle, high school, and college guys so much more clearly. Working on yourself is so important and it's hard to realize that until multiple poor relationships fall through.
@Hippiekid54 you thinking it’s bad advice (for real life) while others think it’s good advice for real life is the whole purpose of this comments thread.
It is, in fact, good advice, which is why the commenters have posited the dnd scenario as an accurate simile of life.
There are many people who move through the world aimlessly, craving connection, feeing lonely, and do absolutely nothing about it (and feel sorry for themselves). These people are some times men, who are shy, who are considered (by themselves or by others) nice.
As a gay man who had plenty of these straight male friends in high school, it was absolutely mind blowing to me that my friends just wanted love and did nothing to make it happen.
As someone who was in a small homophobic town, I did everything I could to 1) learn to be happy and satisfied with my life being single, 2) when I finally got the opportunity to meet gay men, make sure I was appealing for sex (since I didn’t care about dating from focusing on solving problem 1)
It was clear to me that the guys who got dates/got laid were men who actually did something with themselves.
If the only thing that can be said of you is that you’re nice (even if it is really genuine) you’re boring as fuck.
- sincerely, a gay man who is into really nerdy, smart, passionate gamers who are proud and loud of their nerddom (but also good hygiene, prioritize health via sports/gym, have good humour, are aware of current events, and like to read/learn)
Haaaaaayyyy
@Hippiekid54 our takes aren’t all that different after all.
Attraction is personal - it surprises me that your brother doesn’t do better unless he’s really shy (or lacks some other quality of emotional intelligence that rubs folks the wrong way)… Who’s to say?
Acknowledging that you have some control over who you are as a viable fish does not mean you are “changing yourself for others”. If the sole reason you’re changing something about yourself is for others, it’s likely a poor change (ie: I agree with you)
As for the list of traits at the end of my last post, those are qualities I seek in a partner. I wasn’t listing them as my own qualities. (As a gay man *who’s really into men who are…*)
My bad there. Sorry for the confusion.
Cheers!
He never said nice was enough and people don't need to work on themselves. The appropriate follow up would be questioning him on his 'a lot to offer' statement and going from there. This whole video and comment section just shows how stupid and quick to react emotionally people have become.
@@theouthousepoet It's not a simile, it is a metaphor or analogy. Regardless, it is good advice but not in the way you assert. People should always work to improve themselves regardless of whether it will get them attention. So on that point it is good advice. But the issue is that the character was saying they had equal worth to someone who also was not presenting anything worthy of attention, which is a valid concern.
Why only men, why not everyone?
Nah as a "nice guy" this girl has a point. I'm so sad about not having a gf but like I haven't done nearly as much as I could to improve myself. Working out, eating right, reading more, being willing to talk to women and people in places, trying to have a routine, being genuinely kind without being a pushover, being courageous, maybe even a new skin routine...kings there's shit we can do that we ain't doing
@@michaelthatoker7125 oh boy another nice guy
Stop generalizing women because you had a bad experience. If it was really bad get therapy and get back out there; and if you’ve never been with someone and you’re saying this, stop. Some people are jerks, but not all women are cheating harpies just like not all men think with their dick.
@@michaelthatoker7125 You are violently incorrect.
@@redactedrajan4773 Not really 🤷🏻♂️
@@michaelthatoker7125 yes you are..
@@DanielLangeYT Nahh lmao prove me wrong then 😂
I loved this part of the episode, despite it being acting there is truth to it. Brennan's DM skills are truly amazing.
Too many comments insulting Brennan and his physical appearance not knowing he's actually a very kind person in real life and that they're just roleplaying in a D&D game. Smh...
Wow. You make him sound like a really nice guy!
This is why we mostly don’t want them around or included in the things we’re good at and actually like and find peace in
They aren’t roleplaying anything. Nice guys are weasels. Women need to feel safe. We live in a world full of predators. Women want a man, not a weasel. A weasel would beat this guy up. If he adopted more masculine traits he would be much more attractive. Women like bad boys because they don’t follow orders n get told what to do like this guy. Absolutely nothing to do with looks I’d be worried if my sister was dating someone like this as I would be skeptical of his spine in scary situations.
Mind blown
Not roleplaying, not this part atleast..
The older you get, the more you realize a lot of attraction comes from just being yourself. You can work on behaviors and issues but if that person is inauthentic that kills it all.
Honesty seriously is the best policy
But what if you were always nice and that is just you? Then are you just fucked like I am? I don’t know any different then dropping everything for everyone else I din’t want to change that because that’s me.
yes! only a select few abide by this. even I know this and I have to constantly remind myself not to act to please others rather go get my goals and plans done and then I can provide my help or service to others. Its about keeping your life in straight line and being genuine doing so. :)
@@PR3M0P I was and am just like you. I am nice to everybody because I know everyone comes from certain background that formed their character/behavior that way. However, if you invest most of your energy in trying to please others, you eventually will lose time and energy for your life. if you are a teen, then it is totally normal to not understand why now. its more of a life journey where you see from your own life happenings and you reflect upon those events that happened to you and form your behavior from learnings. that is why it is important to move around and do anything even though idk what to do! just try anything and start planning your day, set goals, workout and run. now you have set plans to do throughout your day. so now when you encounter your friends and neighbors, you have a purpose in your strides, in your conversations, and behaviors. its not just you being pleasant to others when talking, you present your set energy that you are here to lead your life with your set plans. that automatically and will definitely show to others that you are a guy who puts down effort and energy to work on your life and start to treat you differently. it will not be a sudden change because your friends and environment has been w you for long that your thoughts are trapped in those environments. so go for a walk hike and run and make new friends and show your old close friends your initiatives.
not even sure why im writing this with passion to some strangers out there. thanks for reading and hope my explanation resonated in your heart.
your life will be better. you have already won by asking these questions
another reason why this is a good idea to follow, is that if you act true to yourself, you'll find someone who fits your personality perfectly. Doesn't mean you'll be attractive to a lot of people, but to the ones you are attractive to will be more attracted to you than anyone else. Quality over quanity.
She said it out loud and I love her for it
Of course she said it out loud why wouldn't she
@Hippiekid54
.... but it's true... For both genders....... :/
@Hippiekid54 There is truth in it though, a lot of people I’ve met really need to hear something like this
@@elizebeths.8880 excuse me? the fuck you mean "both genders". It isn't binary.
He never said nice was enough. The appropriate follow up would be questioning him on his 'a lot to offer' statement and going from there. This whole video and comment section just shows how stupid and quick to react emotionally people have become.
This is still one of the best fucking exchanges lmao
“I think that you feel like you have a lot to offer, and please take this the right way.” “Sure” “You don’t.”
I SO THOUGHT THIS WAS REAL HIS ROLE PLAY WAS SO ON POINT
Mans got skill
Yeah, srsly, I thought this was some kinda Podcast for a few seconds
I thought it was as well 😂
“I know he’s got like a motorcycle and is like super in shape but I’m like doing the bare minimum over here so where’s my attention”
There is such an irony to this because nice girls exist but society assumes they offer more than a man by default just by existing, to the point where it's socially reprehensible to state such. Accept me as I am but bring the sauce
The dude I’m shape and has a motorcycle can also be doing the bare minimum.
As an example, yeah he works out and focuses on himself and has a bike but if that’s all he does then at the end of the day he has nothing to offer other than muscle and two wheels.
We got to remember there are so many factors we got to include in this argument.
@@bw5020 i wouldnt date any gender who does the bare minimum. i aint gonna do that to myself
“I am going to continually reject men until I find one that behaves how I feel like men should behave”
@@juan99101 everything you just said. If that's all a girl wants then SHE'S not bringing much to the table. I know it's roleplay but I would've clapped back hard on that line of bs.
They’re role-playing, but there are men like that.
@@bitchass9073 the girl was the asshole…for telling the guy that women shouldn’t have to lower their standards for a man who’s doing the BARE MINIMUM and not making that much of an effort?!? hmm…okay.
@Liam McMahon a man doing the bare minimum by being “nice” isn’t enough to make women want to date them. also believing that just because you’re nice means women should let you have sex with them is SUPER misogynistic and disgusting. do some self reflection please.
@Liam McMahon that response tells me and everyone else with a brain you have absolutely no argument lmao
@@Kai-dl4vm They're right with their other comment though. Media is heavily pushing body positivity for women and telling us not to judge them based on their looks and accept their personality flaws, stay loyal to them no matter how crazy they get cause of the whole "if you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best" bullshittery. So yaknow...
@@jaeydnheeren honesty without compassion is cruelty
i love brennan so much LMAOO he played that character so well
"You Don't."
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE
Are u 9 years old wtf😭
I expected to this have a lot more likes
@@vintagevortex9478 🗿
@@notamaniswear4815 312 is more than it deserves
Good job. You are a human meme roll. Thanks for bringing the human IQ down another peg
Adaine is by far the most heroic member of the Bad Kids, but honestly, I'm still stunned that she hasn't killed Biz with her bare hands yet
She killed her parents tho
@@triccele 😁👉👉
**SPOILERS**
Unless I’m missing something, she didn’t kill her mother though. Just allowed her to be chased by a horrific monster in the nightmare forest for possibly the rest of eternity, right?
HONESTLY
@@ExElliexE **SPOILERS**
yes HAHAHHAHA honestly the dad got it easy being dead xjdndjd but the mom has a chance for redemption thru the forest i guess?? idk HAHA
The single greatest lesson I've learned in my entire life: don't seek, attract, and the only way to attract anything is to make yourself valuable and attractive to that person or goal.
that’s really bad advice. you need to seek something in order to actually obtain it, like a romantic relationship. that isn’t to stay you shouldn’t work on yourself, but not seeking something is bad
@@PikaBolaChan not necessarily, y’all are not giving context on what “ seeking “ is. It could be simply chilling and looking for the right Opprutunity or catcalling every girl you see and hoping something works . He worded his statement in a weird way but just building yourself and waiting for the relationship to happen is the best move imo
Not to that person to your self. Honestly pulling females is about confidence, so how do we get confidence ? By focusing on makin money and building gains💪🏼. You gotta work hard for everything it sucks but that’s life.
@@matthewhoward7384 That's wrong for one reason imo
As an attractive guy I've had a lot of signals to chase that never registered to me till someone else points it out. (Since I'm socially awkward)
As such the only times I've been with a woman or formed a relationship was by seeking. Expecting her to land on your lap without chasing doesn't happen.
You need to banter with them, and if you're a loner like me who doesn't even talk to other guys like me, that mean seeking
@@fullmetalpleb good point , cause even though I’m not seeking I definitely am good at involving myself in the right situations until something happens, ( talking to a friend group of girls, simply playing and making jokes until I feel like I wanna flirt with someone etc. ) and would like to say I have good social skills, definitely something I didn’t take into account
Siobhan clocked the "Nice Guy" IMMEDIATELY. Passive perception score is unrivaled 😅
She communicated this so well and she’s completely right. The “nice guy” concept is basically a victim mindset. You’re not actually a nice guy if you have to proclaim it and bring it to the awareness of others, you’re just trying to use it as leverage to get what you want. It’s the same as the douchebags, just a different strategy
More manipulative too
@@samuelbenhardt4230 BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PERSON HAS BEEN THROUGH? I am nice to everyone no matter what and I won’t change that. If that doesn’t give me the chance to be with women then so be it because why should I lower my standards and change myself for a woman? This goes both damn ways and I’m tired of men not being stood up for.
@@PR3M0P WTF are you talking about?
@@HeyThereHiThereHoThere exactly what I said
@@PR3M0P You make no sense. You didn't understand the original comment. 😆
The way you could just see everyone cringing the moment he said ‘nice guys’
Yea because I cringed
They are playing dnd and acting, no one was cringing lmfao 😭
@@jermadonson6552 nah, they still cringed, because he pretty accurately portrayed the specific stereotype.
@@jermadonson6552 They all cringed at Biz because Brennan (while mocking) accurately played the "Nice Guy" character
This scene hit me so hard in my High School Guilt
That’s the thing though, coming from an ex-Nice Guy Lite™, that’s exactly what it is.
It stems from a complete lack of self-awareness.
It takes something external breaking through that lack of awareness to realize “oh my god, I’m _THAT GUY_ aren’t I?” And start to change for the better.
I feel that. I was “not like other girls” vibes in my early teens and then one day I was saying some shit at some extracurricular activity about how “people my age don’t listen to music I listen to, I doubt that anyone in this room knows who my chemical romance is” and then everyone did (because duh) and I truly died inside and had that “oh shit” moment lmao. 12 year old me was a piece of work lmao
@@isabellairon8420 12 is not a teenager lmao, you're not twelveteen
@@nilbog_ that’s because English is stupid lol.
22, 32, 92, are all 20’s, 30’s, 90’s, etc… 11 & 12 not being “teens” is just a vestige of older languages merging messily
@@Jessie_Helms yes and thats why preteen or tween/tweenager is now a thing
@@nilbog_ still hurts my soul tbh. I was old enough to know…
It goes both ways. But being friends, this is the type of stuff you should be able to tell each other.
Yup different perspective and opinions keeps you open minded
There's context missing in this clip. They're playing D&D and thus playing characters, the guy's character having been made to be an antagonist. It's all in good fun, between friends.
Also, everyone is different and have different preferences or “types.” The more you fixate on and be bitter about what other people find attractive, the more unattractive you become. Be you, accept yourself, stop comparing yourself to other people, and be confident in who you are. Because that in and of itself is quite attractive to me.
We need more bullshit feel-good answers.
Took me many years of therapy to finally realize this. Other people aren't looking at every fine detail and seeing all your tiny little fuck ups. Don't worry about it. Be you. The confidence and honesty truly shows through your entire personality.
Confidence is really attractive, be it in a man or a woman.
Good fucking shit bro this is the only good comment that I’ve found so far
Bull shit feel good answer good job
Perspective. Me telling my son that my fiancé treats me well. Explaining he's supportive, does and says things to demonstrate his affection.
My son: Well that's what he supposed to do mom!
he's not wrong. you've got a very smart son
And hopefully you are the same way to your man.
i stopped listening to her blabbering as she was opening her mouth to talk. because those kinds of putdowns will just deter men from ever even trying.
@@BobRooney290 If telling someone of their shortcomings will deter them from improvement, then I say good riddance and hurray for the superior gene pool.
@@poipoi300 Yeah but there are more people who are stuck in a mire in their own head, and a person telling them what got them in that mire in the first place as if they hadn't heard it before isn't gonna help them and is of course gonna put them on the defensive. Never once have I confronted my brothers about their shortcomings and succeeded.
But I do disagree with that Bob Rooney guy (more like Bore Looney), it's a comedy show, if you had a conversation like that IRL it will be awkward or just embarrassing for the guy taking it. Therefor, this situation wouldn't even happen in the first place.
His brain: "Core memory, complete."
His brain: okay what's the next line of dialogue, I have a lot of world building to complete and this character wasn't supposed to be here for this long
This is DnD, the guy (Brennan) is absolutely not a nice-guy.
@@pessimisticnihilist3691 He's not a "Nice-guy" he's just a nice guy, with enough bird facts up his sleeves that he's already limitlessly interesting.
And just to appease my self conscious ASD mind, I must specify this is me trying to be funny, and I'd say I nailed it.
@@ScarletWyrm1502 I know, he is one of my favourite people that I will never meet in real life.
Also, ASD gang rise up, it is good to meet another comrade.
@@ScarletWyrm1502wrong, Brennan is a god and i love him
The "You don't" is just Ouch, lol. Man, you gotta love Adaine.
People in the comments taking this way too seriously 😭😭 the character calling himself a nice guy in this scene is literally kidnapping teenage girls and keeping them trapped in arcade games
Huh?
@@cThreep watch the full video you’d understand
Spoilers dude come on
@@heatchecking What’s the video called
Wether its in character or not, its still very true.
This clip is very taken out of context. They are PLAYING DnD and she is talking to one of his CHARACTERS as her character. Love her argument, stop bashing this guy for playing a character though.
Either way the entire context of this clip still works in the real world lol
I dont think anyone's bashing the guy particularly if not the "nice" guy genre of people in general lol
DND, and all RP, often comes with some great life lessons.
@@AcornFox I see irl as a MMRPG
U even get rare loot to show off at popular places. Skills take time like any other ability. And the economy is fucked
Thank you for clarifying this because it was disgustingly rude. What does she have to offer? Certainly not a personality.
Everytime They Cut To His Face I Kept Thinking
"EMoTioNaL DAmaGE 🥴"
Not even flex tape can fix that damage
That vicious mockery comment Emily made always kills me 🤣🤣🤣
This is a game of DnD, the guy (Brennan) is playing the character of a nice-guy npc as the dm.
This was the first intro to dimension 20 after watching critical roll for a bit a few years back. Brennan is an epic DM/GM.
My high school self needed this lesson desperately. I was so desperate to be liked and trying to be a “nice guy” that I didn’t realize that I was not focused on my studies, or my health. I wasn’t focused on the things I loved, but rather what other people loved
It wasn’t until I started college that I worked very hard in school and walked on to a varsity ski team that i became interested more in what I loved. I finally had more interest (not a lot, but more) from potential suitors. The best part was, I didn’t do it to impress them, I did it because it made me better, it was fun, and my progress made me proud.
Despite this all being a joke. This is literally what “nice guys” need to hear
Edit: insane amount of losers in the comments who apparently don’t know what a “nice guy” is💀
Why? There are no rules.
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@@saskk2290 aha, ok nice guy
You sound very narrow minded I would explain but some people just won’t listen so have a nice day and it wouldn’t matter anyways right 🤣
@@mrlaydatpipe9610 what are you on about💀
@@ConnerV you just don’t understand people is all unless you explain more on what you feel like that’s just a broad generalization that’s doesn’t make sense
That was really well said for an improv moment
i watched a video recently that explained the nice guy thing in different context, and obviously there’s nothing wrong with “nice guys”, but often time a line gets crossed when a guy feels entitled to a woman’s affection because they are a nice guy which is not true and almost like a woman owes them that affection because of it
Yeah.. and this dude can obviously get a girl.
He just won’t lower his standard.
Exactly. It’s telling they don’t want women to be nice to them in return, they want women to be *attracted* to them. Which doesn’t really follow.
Oh no no, there are many things wrong with "nice guys"
You mean like when women feel entitled to a man’s money because he’s interested in her. Or how they feel like if they make the first move and you reflect them they legit throw a fit?
@@bronjesamuel1054 'throwing a fit' is a mite better than men being scorned bc a woman said no to them, and then him literally murdering them.
False equivalency in action, neckbeard.
Considering how the main thing "nice guys" offer is emotional blackmail and weird gaslighting I'd rather be on a cool bike.
This is so true!!!
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DOES THIS MEAN THO
If i’m being nice and i’m going out of my way then you should respect that i’m not saying accept it but respect the hustle and most of these nice guys sit in the background and don’t believe they can make it when their personal experience is shitty guys I’ve experienced it but what does it mean to offer? Why does it take so much to get a woman but when you ask woman they think men are so easy.
@@PR3M0P cope
@@PR3M0P Most women really do respect that you're nice. That just doesn't necessarily make them want to date you.
You need something else to you other than "I'm not an asshole", when actually, a bunch of nice guys are just assholes the moment they're rejected anyway.
I wish someone told me that when I was younger.
Same. But hey, it's never too late!
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I like the idea of a sorcerer accidentally casting spell based on role play moment. Like even if the DM is forcing a cast (maybe at a bonus level higher or something). For example this moment, but the DM actually forces the cast of vicious mockery (maybe even for free).
Lol telling a sorceror "your latent magic is leaking out, I'm counting that as an accidental cast" is hilarious to me. I would love that DM forever
@@jacobw.6744 You'd like my DMing style then cause narrative driven game mechanics are so my jam haha
especially a wild magic sorcerer
Sending this to my roommate now who thinks being "nice" is the reason why I should sleep with him hahahahahahaha
Roommate? If he’s not respecting boundaries dead that situation and find a roommate that will.
@@brooklynforever1990 agreed. I packed my shit today and left.
@@deijavu2960 nah get him to leave for sexual exploitation.
Do keep in mind that these are characters played by professional improv artists for D&D.
@@ashtonhoward5582 still has a valid point...like any other character...that a real person writes
"Nice is different than good." -Stephen Sondheim
This is a game of DnD, the guy (Brennan) is playing the character of a nice-guy npc as the dm.
@@pessimisticnihilist3691 they're literally quoting the Unsleeping City
@@littlemissmello I am stoopid, I have a habit of forgetting obvious quotes.
@@littlemissmello They're quoting Into the Woods.
@@AeonKnigh432Well maybe…but the campaign The Unsleeping City was in New York and Stephen Sondheim was canonically a part of it 😂
When you getting roasted but that one person laughing a little to much…
Also keep in mind that even once you are working on yourself, develop hobbies, and find an ambition, there will still be many women who don't find you interesting. Why? Because there's a lot of women, and they all have different interests and personalities. So just keep working and being yourself until you find the one who does find you interesting.
She hit the nail. I absolutely had this mentality back in my mid teens and when I finally realized that I just had an ego problem and started taking care of myself it really put things into perspective and since have been in a loving relationship for 5 years strong.
Congratulations!
Growth is amazing 👏
Sorry but why would you go anywhere near anyone who would otherwise ignore you if not for “taking care of yourself?”
@@AmbersDangleenAnkle not mad. Just can’t help but think in order to possess the “improve yourself” mindset you have to be living in a complete state of denial of the fact that you’re going to die & all of your efforts will be for nothing. To me this is very unattractive; when I see a woman captured by this delusion it’s an instant turn-off. Just being honest about how I feel.
@@AmbersDangleenAnkle also I’m not a fan of women telling men how to behave. “I will continually reject you until you behave how I feel like men should behave”. How about mind your own business.
"eMOTioNAL DamAGe!¡!¡”
Damn, I know they were just playing a game but that shit is so true and a lot of guys genuinely need to hear that.
"Vicious Mockery" Nah. More like:
"Constructive Feedback"
"Saving NPC from Life as an Incel"
"Giving a Enough F*cks to Help"
Well, he did end up kidnapping girls and going to prison, but it's implied that he might have been brainwashed
amazing commentary. necessary and harsh. so much emotional damage inflicted in a minute. amazing.
He never said nice was enough. The appropriate follow up would be questioning him on his 'a lot to offer' statement and going from there. This whole video and comment section just shows how stupid and quick to react emotionally people have become.
@Kuru "This video shows a short clip from a roleplaying session, not a real conversation..."Say that to the entire comment section. Seems to be a lot of YAAAAS QUEEN mentality going on. Kinda pathetic.
@@ViewfromtheVoid I'm literally attempting this right now. It's going well me thinks.
The moment you try to make yourself interesting and attractive is when you lose your life. Just be you, do stuff you wanna do, and there will be a person who'll come along and love you for who you are. At the end of the day, all we can offer is ourselves.
There’s always a trade off, just do whatever makes you happy.
@Charisma Musician Since God knows when it has been an understanding that men must “prove worthy” not just for love and affection, but also for respect. Don't be desperate for the attention of the opposite sex. If they don't think you're worthy, they're just not worth it.
Being into comics, anime, and video games, I can tell you, has not gotten me any tail. It was a difficult epiphany, but I realized, I'm boring. Truth. And it's too late now. If being yourself hasn't worked, it probably won't later. Sad, I know.
@@bryanwhitaker1429 That's because of your mindset. I know a guy who's the geekiest person I could possibly imagine, and I'm a writer, so it says a lot. I mean, he's attending comicons, collecting figurines (his room is full of them, including big Vader, and basically looks like a room of 15year-old), he's living with a roommate, watches anime and plays PC A LOT. He's not close to as handsome as I am, and yet he’s never had any problems with girls whatsoever. He doesn't have a girlfriend, but that's his choice. He's almost always bringing a girl to his apartment(room) after a party or after going out, if he's not planning on playing championship or something. I've figured it's because two things - 1) he's always taken care of himself in terms of hygiene. He's always clean, his hair looks good and he smells nice. No homo stuff. Just something I've noticed. 2) He's insanely confident. He's always talking about his hobbies, comics, anime and games, but he talks about them with such passion that even if you thought it's lame, it doesn't look lame on him. When he talks about them, it sounds cool. It's real deep for him. For example, he's always saying video games are like a move+book where you write your own story. It gives him experience like no other art form can (yeah, he calls his hobbies art, including figurines), and when he's talking anime, it sounds like he's talking about a movie that gives emotional experience, is deep, shows clashes of the society and is a glimpse of Japanese culture at the same time. It just sounds cool, even if you'd yourself never watch it, you accept it. Granted, it doesn't always work, and there are people with thick brain, but he has showed me that everything depends on 1) How we'll you take care of yourself 2) how we'll you can sell ourselves.
To me, it sounds like you've never been confident in yourself. There's no reason not to be. People like confidence and strength. Just as long as you don't wear shorts with high socks and sandals, and have dirty, long hair with a mustache, your hobbies shouldn't be a problem at all. Besides, there are many girls with the same hobby.
@@valterspatriks8752 listen, I'm gonna be honest with you; I skimmed all that. I understand you're trying to make a point, but for the love of God, don't write me a book.
Secondly, mindset or not, it's irrelevant. It's my mind, after all. Am I just supposed to change it? While I'm at it, I'll just stop having anxiety too.
Whenever your about to diss someone hit them with ,” please take this the right way .” 😂😂
It really adds that extra layer of crispy to the burn
Wow. I've never heard the "nice guy" thing explained away like this. Suuuper insightful, and I've learned something today. Vicious mockery is the most effective cantrip...
This is a game of DnD, the guy (Brennan) is playing the character of a nice-guy npc as the dm.
In my experience, the guys who go around saying “why not me? I’m a nice guy!” Usually have some other major character flaw. Like narcissistic traits, is super controlling or clingy or something. I’ve also noticed that guys that say they’re “nice guys” will immediately call you a bitch or ugly if you turn them down.
I agree with both Britanny and Chris. Most nice guys have some character flaw. But that does not mean they are different from the bad boy. The bad boy usually is preferred because he is attractive physically, or has some sort of sex appeal. It’s not about standards or anything. It’s usually who she is attracted to, which to me, that’s barely a standard. So when the woman is saying raising the standard, it’s the quality of the standard, but she is right also because you just can’t be nice and present that to a woman. Those are red flags left snd right. The problem is both men and women lack ethics and character. People want to be good so they can accept something, and also, both parties want each other for superficial reasons. Like he is mad she is dating someone hotter or more attractive than him. That’s going to look and come off bad to her instinctively and understandably. Imagine he had a different attitude. Imagine he sat quietly and remained silent for a long while and looked at the woman and said, “ you know what, I actually never thought about it that way, thanks for opening my mind a little bit.” Imagine how that woman would feel? She might not like him, but imagine the change of how she will feel. A lot of nice guys don’t really self reflect. They also lack the self awareness to actually see their own potential to be captivating to the opposite sex, they lack motivation, passion, mindset, authenticity, masculinity, character and truth. They also lack the ability to understand the world is just not fair. A man who has all these qualities is guaranteed to find a good woman. Now who that woman is I don’t know. From my personal opinion. I don’t understand why he would want the woman who is dating the complete opposite of who he wants. If he thinks he is such a nice guy, then date a nice girl. But we all know that’s not what he wants lol. You can see how different my mindset and his mindset is. When you are your own personality and individual, and are living true to yourself. You will be surprised how you look the world, the pretty girl everyone wants is not that interesting to you, or she could be interesting. But at least you are not treating her like she is some kind of angel, because she ain’t. Sometimes the guy is not the ass, sometimes, it’s the guy who has character snd the woman who is daft. Sometimes you see her as dating a jerk because you see a man who has strength in who he is and respect, and you think he is a jerk because he says what he means and means what he says. If that’s a jerk, hey sign me up. The other day, a friend of mine, a woman said I will drive a woman absolutely insane, why? Because I do stuff my way, or the right way, I don’t take shortcuts. I just looked at her and said, “I’d rather drive a woman nuts, than to betray who I am.” That’s something I see lacking in a lot of men, especially the “nice guys”
In my experience, the girls who go around thinking "I'm so beautiful, I deserve only the best!" Usually have multiple major character flaws. Like narcissistic traits, or being entitled and never satisfied no matter how great things appear. Then when the 13th Chad in a row throws them to the curb they cry on TikTok about "where are all the nice guys?!?;!"
@@nintruendo6411 you used Chad unironically 🗿
@@nintruendo6411 Well we all doubt you’ve actually had any experience with this tbh but I mean… I guess it is something that’s out there which is also toxic so yeah we’ll note that for when you all start that conversation on your own.
@@nintruendo6411 sounding very defensive here big man
If nice guys were a restaurant, the restaurant would have a sign saying "restaurant - we have plates"
No it would say we have plates seats and food what a fucking restaurant is supposed to fucking have
But if and interesting guy with a motorcycle was a restaurant it would say we have cooks with abs and good looks so yeah we got you which is shallow
I need to see more of this because I like where it's going. I love her.
Check out the youtube channel, I believe that Fantasy High season 1 (the season this clip is from) is still up in its entirety on the channel.
@@Eagledude131 link it or it doesn't exist. 😌
@@enzerabowenzu5340 no
@@enzerabowenzu5340 I tried to link it earlier and youtube doesn't let you. You should easily be able to find a whole youtube channel/series on that channel tho
Really this is what a DM does make a character that you can relate to and love or hate on their merits guy is a good dm I like to do the same for my players.
She's talking to him like I've seen my guy friends talk to other guys XD.
She's right tho... And also being nice isn't some kind of superpower- it's like the bare minimum.
What confuses him is why women are attracted to people who very much aren't nice or kind and the spend an inordinate amount of time and effort trying to change them.
What is "nice"? Inoffensive? A doormat?
"Ooo that guys so hot, he probably never makes any off-color remarks"
@@michaelfarrow5817 those people are often more attractive. If a nice guy struggling its because there's little attractive about him.
@@sheadoherty7434 Yes, which goes to prove my point. Some women talk about wanting respect and somebody who treats them well but they don't want to date or have sex with that person unless it comes in a package that is hotter (and probably a foot taller) than her.
Majority of women pick guys that don’t even do that so…
I've seen this before ages ago, but now I actually have watched these people and I have the context it's KILLER ITS BETTER ITS WORSE AW MY GAWD
Brennan's delivery of "hard to see a great way to take that... If I'm being super honest..." Is absolutely amazing
i've never met an actual kind male person that proclaimed themselves as such lol
there’s also a huge difference between ‘nice’ and ‘kind’. Nice guys are ‘nice’ but usually not all that kind…
Consider yourself lucky lol
Lol! Yes!!!!! "I'm a nice guy." What he means is he lacks humility and is devoid of anything else to offer. Why would "I'm nice" ever be the first thing you would say about yourself?
Of course not. Kind people consider being nice just a baseline they expect from themselves, not a defining characteristic. People who make a big deal out of being nice are people for whom acting nice is something they have to work at.
My husband calls himself an asshole, and he definitely can be, but his baseline is sweet and kind and generous. He always thinks what he could be doing to improve other people’s lives or just give them a smile, and not what they could or should do in return. He’s his own harshest critic, and I’m his biggest cheerleader. Which is all to say, i agree
The problem with nice guys is that they are rarely ever actually nice. If you feel a girl should date you because you're nice to her, you aren't a good person.
A real nice guy is someone whos kind to someone with 0 expectations of anything reciprocated.
If you however feel like you're being doormatted, walk away. It's that simple.
The moment you say "why won't she date me, instead of that dumb hunk" youeve fucked up
😐 Sa a résonné en moi...
That also makes that guy a chump.
A nce guy should be somone who helps within reason but expects reciprocity in his interaction. If i treat you fairly i expect you to not be a dick. If i enforce that using fangs that doesn't make me a dick, that's just me protecting myself.
The entire comentary of nice guys is simply that they see trash humans getting chances and repeatedly inflicting their own brand of trauma on their partners without any of that baseline niceness but some how when it comes to nice guys (who know factually that they are atleast better than those waste of space) we need to be a 8th Dan black belt in enlightenment and self actualisation to be given a shot.
@@artifice4994 The whole point is don’t expect anything from them just for not being an asshole lol
Being kind as a trait adds to a relationship. Kindness is not simply the absence of douchebaggery. What a low bar to set!
Nice guy reasoning: "I walked 6 paces away before I farted WHEN I could have farted in your face. Look at how nice I am." 😁💨
This is actually what I was going to say. I feel like when guys say "I'm a nice guy, please date (choose) me" it comes off as "I'm putting you on a pedestal, choose me even though it's clear you don't want me, and I'm not going to put any effort to get you to want me, but I'm a nice guy". I'm sure this is a huge turn off for women. And the reason why I can say this is because I've fell in this way of thinking early In life and I'm glad to of learned this lesson. For example I'm a big guy, have been for a long time. And it would be completely understandable for someone to look at me and say wow he doesn't take care of himself. But now that I've started going to the gym people now say, wow he saw he had an issue and is now taking care of it. And now I get girls that want to start conversations with me and they also learn that I'm a father of a autistic child, own my house and car, have a stable job, on top of a goofy personality. And see a man that knows how to take care of himself which makes women attracted to me. I'm showing the world what I'm worth rather than telling the world what I'm worth.
My comeback for these things is always that nice is the baseline. Almost every pen writes but there's a reason I go with fountain pens. They're smooth, refillable, reliable, and weighty. They do more than just write. You need to be more than "nice."
You did a "nice" job of rewording the most upvoted comment previously posted on this video
@@Codgerism Did I? Literally just typed and sent without reading comments. It's not exactly an original thought.
Women don’t thats the problem
@@eatass5627 what?
@@lifeinnirvana4810 I think he's saying women don't need to be more than nice and are held to a different standard than men. Sounds like typical incel woe-is-me misogyny.
I like how the internet took this video and used it as a girl exposing a guy for real when in reality it's just a funny skit
The funniest part of all of this is Riz having an identity crisis every time biz talks
If all you have to offer is being “really nice”, then you’re better off as a friend. Period.
Ok but what do you bring to the table? I mean let’s be real what is SHE doing to make herself more interesting and attractive?
@@jordanharrison8769 born that way
XD JK way too incel
@@WINCHOism Kinda bull shit when you think about it. She's playing DND and that makes her much more hot, but if I play DND, it has the opposite effect... fuck!
@@jordanharrison8769 exactly women don't have to offer anything than winning generic lottery yet men have to be buff, good looking, rich because somehow a hot chick deserves these things for being.... Hot? Even though her hotness will fall off a cliff by 30s.
Its sounds like halfway thru she stopped role-playing lmao
I wish I knew even the first step to get started in D&D. I've been watching these clips and videos on TH-cam and want to get into this so bad. I'm in my mid 30s and believe I've found the best outlet for some of my current substance abuse. I honestly believe this shit is amazing.
There are discord groups online that could help you get involved!
Every Tate fan needs to hear this
Why? Tate doesn't look highly of simps in the friend zone.
@@mattturner5750 because Tate and people who think the way he does look that pathetic and need a dose of reality.
@@DanSmith-fj1uw what's the reality you're giving him a dose of?
@@mattturner5750 watch the video maybe and try listening to the woman for once.
@Dan Smith I watched it on the show.
What reality are you going to show Andrew Tate?
Everyone tells me I’m super nice, even though I feel like I’m an asshole a lot of the time, I feel like “nice” guys, the ones who constantly talk about how “nice” they are are usually the most toxic ones. It’s kinda like how the smarter you think you are, the stupider you actually are.
Exactly. One of the first lessons I learned about men. If he claims to be a " nice guy" avoid him at all costs. A real nice person Wouldn't need to announce it.
Nice guys don't constantly talk about being nice
Nice guys lament the fact that while they're being nice, the assholes get the girls and the don't
That's absolutely true! But you know who else claim to be nice guys?
Nice guys.
@@kapitan19969838 waaah the assholes get the girl hmmmm >:( ok whatever "nice guy" women dont owe you shit just because you opened a door for them one time
I get what you're trying to say, but that last sentence nearly caused me to have an aneurysm.
I've found that the words, "I have a car, a cat, a job, my own place and I shower daily", will lift a person's status above most of the dating pool.
Hey even without a car and a cat I managed lmao
What about two kids and a morgage?
Oh ho! Look at you managing some basic responsibilities! The bar is pretty low out here.
Say it with me y'all: showering daily is bad for your skin!
@@magnetronman298 It's really not.
Another question we can ask ourselves is "If I DO have something to offer, how are other people supposed to know about it?"
Like, let's say I'm funny. I make really funny memes on anonymous discussion boards, and I come up with wisecrack responses and jokes in my head, but I never actually make jokes with people around me in real life because I'm afraid of botching them.
Then from the perspective of another person, I don't seem to be funny. There's no evidence available to them to suggest that. So if they like funny people, if they're attracted to it, I'm not gonna be the first person they look to in order to find it. They'll probably first notice someone who actually tells jokes and is openly funny.
And that is perfectly logical and understandable.