MGS2 Was Wrong, Actually... How AI Broke The Internet

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  • @MechanicWolf85
    @MechanicWolf85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +477

    the internet is getting unsearchable, unreadable, unusable, and insane that we might head to a total internet collapse if it doesn't end up leading to a accidental war

    • @MrIansmitchell
      @MrIansmitchell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Dead internet theory is dead internet fact

    • @shiloh6915
      @shiloh6915 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The war “internet” economy if you will

    • @seraslain962
      @seraslain962 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Doesn't Cyberpunk (Board Game, Video Game, Anime) have a story bit about the Internet getting fractured by AI? It was more literal there, but what if it's more symbolic in reality?

    • @soccerandtrack10
      @soccerandtrack10 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I search the same thing alot of times=different stuff each time/(cookies????...).

    • @WHALEBOY777
      @WHALEBOY777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@seraslain962 The internet started out fractured so it'd be nice to return to a time when it wasn't just a handful of big tech companies controlling everybody's attention.
      My predictions are that new services will pop up like search engines that actually do their job (welcome back the 2000's search engine wars!) and smaller forum-based websites with niche interests (like geo-cities).

  • @ashlikeadragon
    @ashlikeadragon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +305

    I have a unique, and I'd hope to say, interesting take on the case of William Parks. I worked for GameRant as a list writer for a few months, and I can tell you in confidence that William is actually a real person; I spoke to him on the company Slack a few times.
    But personally, I think the fact he is a real person opens up to the second layer of the issue with AI prioritising SEO when generating articles; not every article can be written by AI, so actual human writers are forced into writing SEO-leaning content that looks like an AI wrote it, because they too are told by their editors (and their editors, and their managers etc higher up) to generate as much traffic as possible. Hell, I was trained to prioritise SEO myself, and it's a burden that absolutely destroys the quality and meaning of any article you write (and forces you to write several a day, obviously).
    An important part of the reason it's so difficult to distinguish real writing and AI writing in contemporary journalism is that the pendulum has swung from AI mimicking humans, to humans mimicking AI, all in the hope of, as you say, earning pennies.
    Fantastic insight as always, thank you.

    • @cool_bug_facts
      @cool_bug_facts 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      That's crazy. But then I suppose there's nothing stopping the human writers from using ChatGPT and cobbling together articles from AI-generated text themselves, if the whole point is to mimic its style?

    • @TheCosmere64
      @TheCosmere64 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      i just dont think it was fair to jump to that conclusion, seeing as it is just an article written to be prurely informative, and some people just write like that.
      also the fact that he had been writing since 2018 and had 3000 articles should have been a dead ringer

    • @HeadsetHistorian
      @HeadsetHistorian 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@kulturkorv What are some clues that something is SEO content? I'm sure I have seen it plenty but not familiar enough to really discern. Thanks!

    • @B_Skizzle
      @B_Skizzle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@HeadsetHistorianIf it reads like it was written by a high school student trying to meet a minimum word count, you can be almost certain that it's SEO content.

    • @masterzoroark6664
      @masterzoroark6664 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      (bright future where machine does the fun parts of living and humans do what's tidious)

  • @metamaniac
    @metamaniac 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +458

    "Seychelles goes ‘Ka-Boom!’ as State of Emergency kicks in - Chaos, prepare for your grand entrance!" reads like a bad mock anime title and I am genuinely HORRIFIED it's not.

    • @skin_lizard
      @skin_lizard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      You put this, like, just into the words that I was thinking of but couldn't find. It's so absurd and wordy and it's honestly insane that an article with that title was published, artificial or not.

    • @bird6708
      @bird6708 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That’s the plot of GGStrive

    • @B_Skizzle
      @B_Skizzle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Good to know I’m not the only one who went straight to anime. When I read "Chaos, prepare for your grand entrance!", I immediately thought of Megumin from Konosuba and her long, overly edgy incantations.

    • @neringalukoseviciute1787
      @neringalukoseviciute1787 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@B_Skizzle 8 days ago wtf

    • @skin_lizard
      @skin_lizard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@neringalukoseviciute1787 Early access through Patreon, I think.

  • @LauraLowe
    @LauraLowe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +380

    The "dead internet theory" is the claim that there are actually few humans using the internet and it's mostly ai generated content and users... that's obviously not true, but seeing it happen in a microcosm feels strange.

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      *obviously not true*

    • @jimmybean420
      @jimmybean420 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      You have no idea how bad things really are.

    • @bryceshane2057
      @bryceshane2057 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      Its like seeing the first batch of tumors in a cancer patient

    • @meleeludens
      @meleeludens 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      you ever been on twitter before?

    • @rhael42
      @rhael42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@bryceshane2057 but how do we give the internet chemotherapy?

  • @CheerfuEntropy
    @CheerfuEntropy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    important distinction between the thing in MGS2 and AI. The things we are dealing with arent AI, just predictive algorithms. Actual general artificial intelligence is a ways off and is going to make everything much much stranger when it turns up. It may seem like a pedantic distinction, but deliberately avoiding calling these algorithms "AI" (especially when one has a platform) is a real actionable way to reduce the problems they are causing.

    • @CheerfuEntropy
      @CheerfuEntropy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      not by much, granted, but needs must when the devil drives

    • @bryceshane2057
      @bryceshane2057 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Pretending like these bots can think is what makes them seem like they actually have a use, which they don't. They're just chatbots without a leash.

    • @caroswolf286
      @caroswolf286 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm with you, these are not AI, there's no thinking involved yet, no pondering no reflection, no conscience, no will.
      These are just glorified generators,and we're already drowning in useless or nonsensical information, too much noise everywhere.
      Now imagine a world, where there's an actual intelligence, capable of thinking, existing by it's own, and without any human values, needs or restrains to hold it back.
      I'm not sure how far are we from a being like that coming to existence, but I do hope it's at least a century away, we as species are not ready to open that Pandora's box.
      And personally, I really don't want to meet AM anytime soon.

    • @fisherjam5182
      @fisherjam5182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      They are just word slop. The term AI gives these algorithms far to much credit. These systems are realistically not fit for the public yet.

    • @B_Skizzle
      @B_Skizzle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Yeah, I’ve been pushing back against this for a while. "AI" is so far removed from its original meaning that I felt the need to use a different term in the sci-fi story I’ve been writing. I eventually landed on CI (constructed intelligence).

  • @cptnqusr
    @cptnqusr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +222

    "the blast that launched a thousand giggles" is so baffling and poetic, it reminds me of the infinite monkey theorem, where monkeys typing randomly on a computer forever has the chance to write shakespeare eventually

    • @killerbee.13
      @killerbee.13 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The actual theorem is that any arbitrarily small, but nonzero chance multiplied out by infinity becomes a certainty, or in other words, that those monkeys don't just have a *chance* to type out the complete works of Shakespeare, but rather that they *will* type out the complete works of Shakespeare eventually, for a mathematical definition of "eventually", simply because they *could*.

  • @Calhasnopals
    @Calhasnopals 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    You know somethings gotten out of hand when even Kojumbo can’t anticipate how bad it gets

  • @iug5672
    @iug5672 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    So this is how liberty dies... with "Ka-Boom!" as State of Emergency kicks in - Chaos, prepare for your grand entrance!

  • @oharrison14
    @oharrison14 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    The situation with AI reminds me a lot of online surveillance/privacy. Everyone assumed the problem would come from governments trying to control us, but instead most of it is all just marketers, and businesses trying to make a quick buck off of user data.

    • @ChadVulpes
      @ChadVulpes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People say that the world is becoming like George Orwell's 1984, but that's patently untrue. What it's becoming is Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. We won't be forced out of our freedoms. We will give them away and be happy with the convenience.

  • @scotter140
    @scotter140 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hara-Kiri Rock. I need scissors!

    • @veridan2582
      @veridan2582 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      61!

    • @goob8945
      @goob8945 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Raiden, turn the game console off right now!

    • @CCDaDon15
      @CCDaDon15 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@goob8945 I actually did that lol. I didn’t even have a memory card… kept the ps2 on for several days up to that point. I felt so dumb.

    • @goob8945
      @goob8945 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CCDaDon15 omg XD at least mgs2 is pretty fun to replay

    • @CCDaDon15
      @CCDaDon15 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@goob8945 yeah it didn’t ruin my experience with the game at all haha. I was back to where I was within a few hours. It actually helped me get better at the game for the final run and I don’t think I would have beat Solidus that easily without the extra time with the controls

  • @rileye9599
    @rileye9599 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    "an explosion-filled adventure awaits you in paradise!" is an *incredible* line tbh

  • @nikkimvee4710
    @nikkimvee4710 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I mean, I could be petty and say that MGS2 was still right, if you consider the idea that the virus uploaded by Emma was, in fact, a random generation algorithm. It could be possible that instead of facilitating the growth of humanity through objectivity, it broke down to just facilitate... anything. Literally anything at random to hold engagement. How many times did you answer the codec calls after it broke down when you first played after all?
    Not to mention danger still lied in repeating old mission objectives to Raiden as if they were current ones.
    I don't believe this was intentional by Kojima at all, but still, hmm.

    • @timrosswood4259
      @timrosswood4259 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also, The Patriots are a completely different type of AI than these generative "AIs". These bots are designed purely for engagement, but The Patriots were designed to be rulers and to unite humanity through a shared consciousness. There is also the fact that The Patriots are far more advanced technology than anything we currently have.

  • @Rainbowhawk1993
    @Rainbowhawk1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    MGS2 was right about the internet in the 2010s. But it seems Deus Ex is correct about the future onwards.
    “You will soon have your god, and you will make it with your own hands.”

    • @bryceshane2057
      @bryceshane2057 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      More like imps that whisper sweet nonsense to us

    • @SpoopySquid
      @SpoopySquid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@bryceshane2057God is just an imp with expensive PR

  • @SEiiBUTSU
    @SEiiBUTSU 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Small note:
    1. The AI At the end of MGS2 conveying its plans isn't GW, by that point in the game GW is destroyed, which is conveyed at the start of the codec cut scene with all the narrative about the AI plans.
    2. As someone who runs a website with a number of volunteer contributiors, and I can tell you from my experience, there's no end of writers who, for whatever reason, write like that first example article.
    3. As for the AI not being like MGS2 predicted. While that's true, the difference is two fold. The source of the AI's creation. The hands of those who define its existence, shape its intentions.
    Aside from that, what MGS2 called AI isn't what we are using the term to mean now. It's the difference between an orange and the colour orange.

    • @aliceyuri
      @aliceyuri 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yea in mgs2 it was literal artificial intelligence, that hasn't ever existed in real life

  • @losfrail6142
    @losfrail6142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Certainly feels like a fever dream seeing these AI articles sometimes. Hundreds of web-pages engaging with each other with small to no human involvement. It's terrifying, in my personal opinion. I don't really know what to think of it, but it just... feels disquieting.

    • @B_Skizzle
      @B_Skizzle 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I don’t find it terrifying so much as infuriating, but at least we can agree that it's bad news.

    • @losfrail6142
      @losfrail6142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@B_Skizzle Yeah. Not really much else to say about it. Infuriating, frustrating, annoying, worrying. As someone else said, the internet is becoming each day less legible and incomprehensible.

    • @ChadVulpes
      @ChadVulpes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thought experiment: you are a farmer at the end of 20th century, and you've seen a fully-automated harvester for the first time. What is your reaction?

    • @losfrail6142
      @losfrail6142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ChadVulpes Be amazed, obviously. A bit scared that it may take my job.
      But here's the thing, pal. Most of what AI's produce has no use. It's quite literally, garbage. The parts that aren't simply aren't that beneficial.

    • @ChadVulpes
      @ChadVulpes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@losfrail6142 ah, but it produces nothing that’s useful to us, “pal”. It’s useful to those that created and use it. Just like with the farmers, they don’t care about the bottom line.

  • @b.r.207
    @b.r.207 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    The dead Internet theory changed from a spooky Internet story to a potential out come.

  • @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034
    @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    On Twitter it has become a kind of rule that blue checkmark means bot or grifter most of the time. It's obnoxious how artificially nonsensical has become.

    • @thatbachus
      @thatbachus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      that's what happens when a techbro runs a website.

  • @chefboyarstevo
    @chefboyarstevo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    been watching your content since your first half life videos , and your viewpoints on these kind of things are incredibly creative and original . never stop homie

    • @AndreJr9
      @AndreJr9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You didn't even have time to watch the video yet.

    • @chefboyarstevo
      @chefboyarstevo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      so what ? i cant say shes made good videos before ?

    • @AndreJr9
      @AndreJr9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chefboyarstevo"on these kind of things", when you don't even know what the video is about yet.

    • @chefboyarstevo
      @chefboyarstevo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      she makes video essays explaining how video games relate to the real world . i was one of the first comments , so i was watching the video while i made the comment . get a life dude you appear to be extremely bored , just watch why else are you here 😂😂

    • @AndreJr9
      @AndreJr9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chefboyarstevo Just admit that you made a generic comment early to get some attention and likes and move on. It is not that complicated.

  • @ScareFire
    @ScareFire 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    There's no way you didn't voluntarily ended the bullets points of each of your argument on the keysound of the ost (the high pitched **hhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuu** sound). It makes them ring in an eery way. Well done

  • @aconcernedindividual297
    @aconcernedindividual297 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    There's this thing I keep seeing where artists I've followed for ages are suddenly getting random accusations of using AI on new stuff, even though it's totally consistent with their older portfolio. Like, you can spend years dedicating yourself to a craft, and instead of being met with praise for your accomplishments and skills, people are assuming you asked a computer to create it in 2 seconds while you've been spending your time mindlessly binging Family Guy or something. I can't blame people for keeping their guard up, but God, it's depressing.

  • @Marcharound
    @Marcharound 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    You talking about the twitter bots replying to a video without sound reminds me of semi-similar encounter with a youtube comment bot I had. It would always comment general compliments like, “You are one of the most underrated creators on this platform!” or “Your passion is outstanding!” It always had about 6 or 7 likes on the comment too.
    However, it was rather easy to identify it and those who liked it as bots, as it would comment these on the damn WWE official channel, on clips where they performed in front of thousands of people. Something tells me that no real person would describe that as “underrated”.

  • @DJTS1991Yes
    @DJTS1991Yes 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I work as a videographer and social media manager for an insurance company.
    Two months ago, my boss came to me and asked me to write articles for his website. I make 60 posts a week, all with infographics and copy so I didn’t think I’d have time.
    Instead he insisted I use AI. So I had to do two weeks worth of training, and now I’m “writing” 10 blog posts a week.
    It’s… bizarre

  • @raydaug4633
    @raydaug4633 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I don't think MGS2 was wrong, but I do think it was imcomplete due to either the imagination of Kojima and the other writers, or because of the framework of the story being told. The MGS series is downing in the Great Man theory of history, which isn't unusual for fiction as it's hard to wright a story with a captial H hero without leaning into it even just a little bit, but it's worth thinking about due to the way MGS interacts with real world history. MGS2, through GW, fails to imagine a future where there is more than on GW creating its own truth. Not a Great Man, but Great Men shaping history and the future. Which is a bit sad, because that would have been a powerful rejoinder from Raiden.

  • @FinnaWoken
    @FinnaWoken 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    It's crazy seeing leadhead uploading multiple videos in a single month 😭 idr this channel being this active even before 2021

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Hrt is doing wonders to her upload schedule

    • @FinnaWoken
      @FinnaWoken 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@airplanes_aren.t_real SO REAL

    • @SpoopySquid
      @SpoopySquid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@airplanes_aren.t_realBroke: undergoing HRT because you're trans
      Bespoke: undergoing HRT because it helps with your sigma grindset

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@SpoopySquid voice training to sound more feminine and get more discord nitro

  • @ottertotter5932
    @ottertotter5932 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    As the view count crawls up keeping pace with about 1000 per hour I can't say enough how much I really enjoyed this Video. It doesn't perform well, but this is probably the most profound one you've made. Breaching outside of internal retrospection and into what everyone's everyday has become.

  • @BajaRoss
    @BajaRoss 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I feel like we're out of the MGS predictions timeline and into the Cyberpunk 2077 universe predictions. AI needed to keep other AI in check/control, it's AI all the way down.

  • @NYKevin100
    @NYKevin100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    7:17 - Part of the problem is that many people just suck at writing. The last time many of us had to write something serious was high school English class, which is great if you have to churn out a shitty five-paragraph essay, but it doesn't prepare you for proper writing. I can easily believe that this example is AI, but I can just as easily believe it's some overworked and underpaid human who has no idea what they're doing. The problem is not knowing - faced with a lack of certainty, people tend to get paranoid and suspicious of everything presented to them. I bet you could grab some random passage from Wikipedia (that hasn't changed since 2020 or so), show it to a bunch of people, and a significant percentage would say "Yeah, that's AI."

  • @TheMaskedArcanum
    @TheMaskedArcanum 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Manmade horrors beyond my comprehension! My favorite!

    • @fossfox
      @fossfox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Soon they won't even be manmade, the algorithms will be making algorithms of their own!

    • @ChadVulpes
      @ChadVulpes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me studying these manmade horrors so that they are no longer beyond my comprehension: 📗🤔

    • @thecaptain6520
      @thecaptain6520 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can comprehend manmade horrors perfectly fine.
      That sounds like a "you" issue

  • @LogosSteve
    @LogosSteve 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    So as someone who has studied MGS2, AI and Japanese fiction as a whole, any applicability the game has for commentary on the future is a happy accident. It was actually a game about the then present in Japan which I will explain in detail in future videos. You can see how far off some of these themes are in another work called Psycho Pass.

    • @LogosSteve
      @LogosSteve 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That being primarily the self identity theme which Kojima's works are primarily about at least in MGS 1 through 3.

    • @LogosSteve
      @LogosSteve 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most of these writers who tend to use AI in fiction don't understand it whatsoever and instead project into it whatever serves the actual message they are trying to say.

  • @KateYagi
    @KateYagi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This gets especially stark if you go to the healthy alternatives like fedi and blogs for a while, then check back in on the ad driven sites, The internet isn't just in a new era, but it's diverged into two happening at the same time.

  • @ronoc9
    @ronoc9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    We've had information, then misinformation. Now we have uninformation.

  • @HeadsetHistorian
    @HeadsetHistorian 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The thumbnail legit made me laugh out loud.
    Great video, triggered a lot of thought for me personally. Much appreciated.

  • @helinanana
    @helinanana 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Gosh I wish I could word things as eloquently as you do in every single video of yours. I’m sitting in front of my homework right now, ironically I’m supposed to write an article on the dangers of AI, but I feel like everything I write is just a load of crap.
    Anyways thanks for the new upload, as always your vids are awesome!!!

    • @Skalias
      @Skalias 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The key to this kind of writing is sincerity and confidence, specifically both at the same time, the key to getting good at something(anything at all) is dedication

    • @helinanana
      @helinanana 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Skaliasvery true, thank you! I guess it’s kinda hard ,even if it’s something I’m interested in, when it’s homework haha

    • @theslungus1000
      @theslungus1000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@helinanana It could be worthwhile to cite her as a source?

    • @helinanana
      @helinanana 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@theslungus1000 if I actually finish my homework definitely haha

    • @muffy_bunny
      @muffy_bunny 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      go finish it !!!

  • @ataraxianAscendant
    @ataraxianAscendant 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    the internet isn't dead, it's currently dying :3

  • @federicoandrade6978
    @federicoandrade6978 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Honestly, what has kept me sane and made me know I'm looking at Human-made* (possibly) news outlets or content, is mostly the typos, they are the biggest indication something's been written hastly and without any algorithm improvement of any kind.

  • @boyblob
    @boyblob 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Probably not the upload that will do big numbers, but definitely one of the reasons I sub to this channel.

  • @DaxterL
    @DaxterL 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What pisses me more than most is that we are living in a cyberpunk dystopia but we have no metal gear, no widespread cyber body enhancements nor powerarmour or high frequency blade, or mechas. If you're gonna take me into the cespit of depression that is today, at least give me some cool shiny stuff.

  • @RazorFringe2
    @RazorFringe2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just love living in a time where collective meaning, understanding and communication are under systemic threat by a process that will gnaw away at them regardless of anything.

  • @kaismith9968
    @kaismith9968 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Maybe the real AI was the friends we made along the way

  • @bilboinabag223
    @bilboinabag223 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    MGS2 was totally right. To this day I still need scissors61, and that console has been turned off for years!

  • @Flashjackmak
    @Flashjackmak 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The more I hear about AI generated stuff the stupider it all seems. The most hilariously bad bit for me is how there's so much AI generated art or articles out there now that other AIs are using the pre-existing AI generated stuff to make more stuff which is even more nonsensical. It's inbreeding.

  • @everywhereattheendofemilyp7488
    @everywhereattheendofemilyp7488 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Raiden, something happened to me last Thursday when I was driving home. I had a couple of miles to go -- I looked up and saw a glowing orange object in the sky, to the east! It was moving very irregularly... Suddenly, there was intense light all around me -- -- and when I came to, I was home. What do you think happened to me?

  • @torielandcheese1076
    @torielandcheese1076 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    dead internet theory? i want this on a shirt!!

  • @mirfalltnixein.1
    @mirfalltnixein.1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That thumbnail was absolutely worth the wait.

  • @Fottrel
    @Fottrel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the algo failed to show me this when it was originally posted but i am here now. could someone who recognizes it please tell me the name of the song that is played in the transition at 05:00? i have been looking for that specific piece of music for years. i whistle it to myself, it's one of my favorites. i *thought* it was from knytt underground (a lovely game) but i've been unable to find it in the soundtrack and have felt like i've finally lost it in my old age.

  • @JustJayGaming
    @JustJayGaming 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The AI saying your channel name confused me, is the "Lead", like in Lead-role or like the metal? I always said it like the metal, it has a nice ring to it. Cool and scary video by the way.

  • @aliceyuri
    @aliceyuri 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the thing is tho mgs2 isn't necessarily saying that the ai colonel and rose' diagnosis and prognosis about the state of information flow online is right, and the fact that nothing existing irl can legitimately be called artifical intelligence, thats just a marketing term when applied to the sort of things generating images and text that exist rn

  • @fakename4683
    @fakename4683 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    MGS2 is dealing with military applications. They don’t exactly share all that much on how GW was influencing other parts of society. MGS4 went into a bit with its commercials that serve the AI program.
    Currently the US government is developing a fighter plane flown by ai for aerial combat. Beyond that Project Maven Is now underway.
    Beyond that MGS2 came out as wars post 9/11 were starting. I always took the AI in MGS2 was not focused on truth, but only American truth.

  • @Colin-i9z
    @Colin-i9z 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you leadhead. we really apreciate your videos.

  • @crangejo
    @crangejo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    19:28 what the fuck that sudden note actually scared me¿

  • @last_surprise9507
    @last_surprise9507 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the vibe of your content. Just a chill gal, talking about the things she loves.❤

  • @ArsanCraft
    @ArsanCraft 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is your best work yet. (Not to discredit what you have been doing for years.)

  • @BinaryDood
    @BinaryDood 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    it's not that it wasn't right... it's that we are past its "dystopia" and onwards into something much worse.

  • @d0leo
    @d0leo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thanks for your human intelligence and finding an interesting way to document this important topic.

  • @wind_reader
    @wind_reader 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Gosh, the Kazakhstan language tweet and all the nonsense replies felt like that Rick & Morty episode where Jerry is living a simulation and he doesn't even notice. Specially the part where the aliens lower the simulation's performance to focus on Rick and Morty. I hate the internet sometimes.

  • @jippalippa
    @jippalippa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This was an other absolutely excellent video!

  • @SitraSan
    @SitraSan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly surprised by this vid, saw the title and thought I'd disagree with you but honestly I think you nailed it, MGS2 didn't necessarily predict the future, the reality of how things function now is arguably more terrifying than what was predicted.

  • @crangejo
    @crangejo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey, I can't seem to find the links to the articles you showed on the vid

  • @Baderbear
    @Baderbear 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    where is Understanding Alyx Vance (2/2) video? TwT

  • @Traveler_202
    @Traveler_202 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MGS2 wasn’t wrong, AI does control and dictate the flow, context of and reaction to content on the internet, the only thing wrong with its prediction was that we assumed it’s context and information would be good or true at all.
    61!

  • @imjoul3
    @imjoul3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Something I've always wandered about is what will happen when their sources start being mostly other AI, creating an infinite loop of a game of telephone

  • @bennifer94
    @bennifer94 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In my opinion, AI is a tool like any other. It can be used for good or for evil, but it needs human input. Any inflammatory fake article written by AI was prompted by a person. I'm not afraid of AI, I'm afraid of bad people using it. 🤷‍♂

  • @itsd3br33
    @itsd3br33 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a computer science student I found this video super interesting, thank you Penelope for another interesting video !

  • @larval_nema
    @larval_nema 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    are the articles linked in the description? i don't see them

  • @rhapsodyaria
    @rhapsodyaria 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh gods you just had to use _that_ TTS program didn't you?

  • @notyouraverageaustrian
    @notyouraverageaustrian 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the patreon screen is how i feel rn

  • @thisisanexonym
    @thisisanexonym 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I feel like writing a story.
    Nobody can walk around downtown anymore without hearing some jerk wad talking to themselves. They all wear bluetooth headphones and pretend like they're having conversations on the phone while they walk around. Some of them play it straight the whole way through and do it really convincingly but most of them just walk around talking about how they're talking to themselves while expecting everyone to have tuned them out as someone having a phone conversation. It sounds like something from a prank video that would have come out a decade ago but most of them don't even record it. It's, uh, some kind of self confidence thing? I don't really know what to make of it. The whole thought of "Nobody cares what you're doing. They just care about what you think that they're doing." might be helpful for an insecure middle school child who gets bullied but I don't think that's what I want an entire generation to believe like it's gospel. It didn't take long for people on phone calls joking like they were talking like the people talking to themselves to crop up. It's like calling attention to how suspicious it was somehow made them confident enough to try to begin with. I think that if this stupid trend keeps going the way it is then every sensible person is just going to wait until they're home to have a phone call make them feel less alone. I mean, there's already people talking to themselves pretending like they're talking to celebrities, and now there's celebrities making content where *plot twist* they were actually talking to the celebrity. Really heady stuff, I know. I miss being able to piece together a person on the other end in my head when I walk by people talking to each other. Am I on the other end by this point? I mean, how can I appreciate that while I'm eating a sandwich? I'm a listener, I don't like talking on the phone with people. I'll give this stupid trend a few months before it dies.

    • @thisisanexonym
      @thisisanexonym 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think I might rewrite this later down the line as some kind of letter communication between two people. Something about snail mail being the medium for a conversation about things that change every 2 seconds just speaks to me. This guy is going to be an unreliable narrator with a clear bias, and maybe at the end it'll be revealed that his pen pal was a robot doing a Turing Test.

  • @celeste_1993
    @celeste_1993 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i LOVE your videos, also your hair is very goals

  • @Lykrast
    @Lykrast 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    damn that's both absurd and depressing to think about :(
    also never noticed your glasses they're cool

  • @vaquero141
    @vaquero141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Truly scary stuff. Thanks for the video

  • @crangejo
    @crangejo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hey leadhead if it's not a bother do you have any recommended MGS playthroughs?
    Your videos about the series make me really wanna see the whole thing, but after your video talking about the button mashing sequences, I see that, due to accessibility issues, I won't really be able to play it myself, which does bum me. The earlier titles are the ones that have enticed me the most, in any case

    • @crangejo
      @crangejo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sidebar, and dismissible, but writing that made me think about you somehow uploading playthroughs or something. Very likely to not be something that should happen, but I feel like it's better for it to be out there than never let it out of my own head

    • @sonicdv3953
      @sonicdv3953 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The button mashing is either optional in games like MGS1, or the easier difficulties have easier button mash sections in 2-4. You could also use a turbo button toggle to get past them.

    • @crangejo
      @crangejo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sonicdv3953 please tell me more, this is helpful

  • @elizathegamer413
    @elizathegamer413 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its like all those millions of comments that are like "lets just appreciate how much effort this person puts in" but those are even worse because they're entirely pointless

  • @fisherjam5182
    @fisherjam5182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also worth noting is there is no one at the wheel. People obviously generate the articles but the ai code is a black box system. We can't just open it up and see what makes it tick and the research is criminally underfunded.

  • @Val-d9p
    @Val-d9p 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    On the note of Twitter botposts- yeah, you hit the hammer on the head, goddamn.
    Elon has made Twitter a horrible place, I mean, look at Elon Musks' own replies- or any popular meme page- its just image macros and near-human, yet meaninglessness nonesense What kind of hell have we created? I used to jokingly say that i wish we lived in the 'cool' kind of technologic dystopia, but we're far beyond that :/.
    I might have to talk to my grandparents and elderely neighbours about the all this AI generated spam news, god forbid my grandmother reads 'Seychelles goes 'Ka-Boom!' as State of Emergency kicks in - Chaos, prepare for your grand entry!' and tries to comprehend it.
    Keep up the good work, LeadHead, I always enjoy your content.

  • @undecidedmajor1664
    @undecidedmajor1664 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:20 this is a problem I have noticed long before AI was writing articles. Looking up solutions for problems would often yield many articles that start off with a sterile and completely useless introductory paragraph that always starts with something to the effect of "If you are anything like me then x problem really bothers you" as if I needed to be told that. The intro paragraph always ends with something like "This is the article for you." I'm already here because you presumably have information that I am lacking. It's very annoying to have an article try to sell itself as worth your time while it actively wastes it. I distinctly remember being educated to write in the intro-body-conclusion style like this so I imagine many journalists understand this to be the correct way to communicate. The funny ish part is that AI uses these kinds of junk articles in their training data so naturally they would follow this style too.

  • @dianacopycat3675
    @dianacopycat3675 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey this is a great video! Just one thing, the Gamerant guide you mentioned is almost certainly not AI. Gamerant, the website you showed, explicitly doesn't allow writers to use AI generated text. But you're right in saying that if feels like it was written by one.
    Most of Gamerant's guides read so weird because the website insist on using an impersonal and authoritative tone across the whole site. This means no first and second person (You, I, Me) and no talking directing to the reader. That's terrible for guides in particular (imagine if write an instruction manual without talking directing directly to the reader) but it makes all their articles read like news reports.
    Plus, the pay is so bad that writers just don't have time to find creative solutions. That's also why the guide was based on someone's post and why it's so vague. The pay just doesn't work if you actually play the games you write about.

  • @deneb_tm
    @deneb_tm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    a position i strongly agree with is this: what the tech sphere has decided to call "AI" is really... not. LLMs aren't "intelligent" in any meaningful way, they're little more than really good predictive text engines - not unlike the feature built into most smartphone keyboards. humans tend to overeagerly ascribe intelligence to anything that _appears to_ communicate as they do; it's a similar story with most "talking animals", honestly. (of course, animals _are_ intelligent, despite not being able to recite the complete works of shakespeare)
    ... oh and of course, "AI" is _the_ buzzword that sells things right now. or at least investors are all convinced it does.
    (see also acollierastro's video titled "AI does not exist but it will ruin everything anyway")

    • @AbandonedVoid
      @AbandonedVoid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's like saying a digital notepad isn't really paper. Yeah, obviously. We've been using the term "AI" to refer to artificial facsimiles of intelligence for awhile now. Enemies and bosses in arcade games are AIs. Bot accounts are AIs. LLMs and MLAs are just more advanced AIs than the ones we've had for nearly half a century now. An AI doesn't need to be self-aware and sapient in order to be an AI.

  • @ttuesdayy1
    @ttuesdayy1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    MGS2 was legitimately the first 'complex' game i had ever played. The first time i was challenged with ideas about the future and what it would look like, who defines reality; you know, the whole MGS2 thing. I feel like it's really starting to be talked about again, but i typically only hear the shock and awe about how so much of what it talked about does line up (like the first minute or so of this video)
    Honestly, contextualizing the differences between what MGS2 touched on, and what we're dealing with today, was really interesting. And kind of a bummer. Like, at least MGS2 was interesting in it's AI's goals and tools, as opposed to "Algorithms and speech models being used to capitalize on internet space."
    Really cool video though! I enjoyed it a lot! I can't wait to see what's next, and ough i have so much backlog i can watch ;~; (if anyone has any fave videos from this channel they wanna share I'd love to hear them :] )

  • @xanosghoul
    @xanosghoul 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I searched up the Kazakhstan language video that historic vids posted, and just looking at the feed of videos it's honestly a little jarring. There is an entire infestation of different accounts who all look and act like bots either reposting the caption of the video or the video itself and even historic events themselves have reposted the video with sound to complete the Human centipede ouroboros of bot content. All of which having a series of incredibly similar comments just like you found in the video.

  • @Omnywrench
    @Omnywrench 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The part that fascinates and disturbs me most is how somebots today are creating content based on data stolen from the content made by other bots, like a cult of incestuous cannibals. I wonder how far that would go, if bots only "fed" off of other bots. What would the end results be a few months down the line? Would they just end up churning out basically the same mediocre crap, having boiled down their content to what is the most efficiently marketable? Or would they end up producing something utterly incomprehensible, whole articles of word salads or videos consisting of a mind-numbing hodgepodge of color and sound, completely divorced from anything resembling human art? I wonder if anyone has tried something like that already.

  • @llDbGll
    @llDbGll 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll never play a MGS game because I hate the gameplay loop, but DAYUM; Listening to Leadhead yap about MGS2's themes and the AI hellscape that modern internet has become, for almost half an hour? That's a blessing. I love your content so much, thanks for existing

  • @fireboythestar3455
    @fireboythestar3455 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wish the world was as simple as in the MGS games. There all they had to do was shut down a single AI. In the real world millions of inviduals are creating chaos and ruining society with no possible way of stoping them.

  • @LittleGusty
    @LittleGusty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    of topic but, when i clicked on the video i was suprised that it was not the same voice i heard in the funny half life video that i saw early, like youtube was reccomending me old stuff of yourh channel or the change is recent, in the end i will discover because i loved your videos

  • @Sintarzus
    @Sintarzus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:28
    I remember this video circulate on Russian social networks years ago, and, yes, the sound of his voice did actually resemble a starting engine. Definitely a tongue-twister tho.
    That wasn't AI, that was a stupid bot, reusing existing comments on the same video.

  • @notyouraverageaustrian
    @notyouraverageaustrian 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    shouldnt have watched this baked af

  • @MewZe
    @MewZe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I can't view or see external videos.

  • @IvoryMadness.
    @IvoryMadness. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a great video! There's a lot of concerning things about it, yes, but it was really good and really reflective nonetheless.

  • @Awesome_Nova
    @Awesome_Nova 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone have a link to the Seychelles ai article that Leadhead talked about?

  • @Booli.
    @Booli. 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for uploading in 1440 because it uses a higher bitrate encoder

  • @Cyynapse
    @Cyynapse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    at the end of the day the bitter truth is that we never even had to develop actual AI to destroy the internet

  • @2DayDavid
    @2DayDavid 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the creepy mgs2 music swell during the uncanny twitter parts

  • @vinnisvidya
    @vinnisvidya 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for making a video on this topic I felt like I was slowly going insane seeing the entire internet devolve into an AI generate slurry and I didn't see anyone else really notice outside of funny twitter replies
    If Mario, then only Bros!

  • @leftovernoise
    @leftovernoise 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the Kazakhstan language video does have sound. At least that same video popped up on tiktok and did indeed have the original audio

  • @BAGELMENSK
    @BAGELMENSK 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it interesting that there is a lot of media that protrays a possible future and is very accurate for a time..... And then inevitably breaks down as we experience that reality, digest it, and as human beings transcend it and learn from it. Its fascinating to watch happen

  • @GeorgeDell
    @GeorgeDell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    watching this felt like a movie. crazy good

  • @romeurodrigues2075
    @romeurodrigues2075 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That "made by ai" section was actually so funny

  • @crushermach3263
    @crushermach3263 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Automated advertising on the Internet needs to be outlawed in order to fix this, but that just comes with its own host of problems.

  • @agroed
    @agroed 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does Bruno Mars is gay? But seriously, even non-AI accounts have just become machines for reply bait at this point.

  • @TheGuerilla11245
    @TheGuerilla11245 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:05 mmmmmm I'm not sure it's the biggest point but there is a big difference between trivial information and misinformation.

  • @ІлляВетров-й2д
    @ІлляВетров-й2д 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The most unrealistic thing about the Kazakh language comment section is the lack of Turkish people saying that they understood everything, lol